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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome to a week seven edition of

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. Chris Hary here with you Bolts coming off

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Speaker 1: to buy playing the Jacksonville Jaguars this Sunday at SOFI Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Coming up a little bit later, a beat writer's round table,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Miller, La Times, Fernando Ramirez Sports Illustrated, and Joe

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Speaker 1: Ready of the Associated pres gonna join me. We'll also

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Speaker 1: see what's on the menu, presented by Subway with the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Chargers Matt money Smith. But first, a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame wide receiver. Who will be in the

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Speaker 1: booth this Sunday to call Chargers Jags, the Great James Lofton.

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Speaker 1: All right, my first guest, We'll be in the booth

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Speaker 1: this Sunday for Chargers Jags. The Hall of Famer James

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Speaker 1: Lofton joins me here on Chargers Weekly, and James, it's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you here. I'm excited to get

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Speaker 1: you to Sofi Stadium for the first time. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to be there. It's kind of ironic. When I

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Speaker 1: Angeles Inglewood Border, I used to jog around the Fabulous

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Speaker 1: which is actually where Sofi Stadium actually sits now. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I've driven by it while it was under

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Speaker 1: construction and it looked like a big spaceship head landed.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about going into that spaceship football game.

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Speaker 1: It's a spaceship with a lot of bells and whistles,

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Speaker 1: so it's and it's you know what, it's one of

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Speaker 1: those places where you're never gonna forget it and you're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna have to go several times just to see

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Speaker 1: all of it. So we're excited for Sunday. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this Chargers team coming off an unexpected by. They've lost

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Speaker 1: four straight chains but there is a silver lining to this.

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Speaker 1: They think they found their franchise quarterback in Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I think they have too, but I think Anthony Lynn

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Speaker 1: would tell you that he would have rather played not

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Speaker 1: as well offensively and one of some of those games,

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Speaker 1: because they really have looked good on offense, and it's

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Speaker 1: just been perplexing with some of the ways that you

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Speaker 1: lose ballgames. And I think that's just eats at all

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Speaker 1: the charge of fans right now, Yeah, it's It's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where it's either maybe turnovers or a

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Speaker 1: miss phil goal or an inopportune interception. And sometimes those

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Speaker 1: losing games come in bunches, but so does winning. What

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Speaker 1: do you think the Chargers need to do to just

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Speaker 1: and I think that that's the key to stay the

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Speaker 1: course during the offseason when the Chargers decided to let

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Speaker 1: Melbyn Gordon go and they move along to Austin Eckler,

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Speaker 1: who had just just continue to impress people with his

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Speaker 1: play from the first day he got here. Being an

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, small college. You know guy you kind

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Speaker 1: of yawn about, Oh, well, I don't think that guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna make a team. Then he finally makes a team. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna make a big impact. Finally makes a

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Speaker 1: big impact. And it was funny during hard knocks when

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Speaker 1: they did that little box jump drill and nobody else

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Speaker 1: It doesn't you know, most running backs are not six

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Speaker 1: not to get hit with direct blows, and Austin Eckler

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Speaker 1: it was one of the team leaders that they lost.

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Speaker 1: those wide receivers that alway where you're pretty good one,

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Speaker 1: coach for the Chargers. When you look at this unit

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Speaker 1: you describe just how good of a player he is, James, Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing about Keenan Allen and I started watching

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Speaker 1: What I call Keenan Allen and I was searching for

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Speaker 1: I mean he cann control the game and he dictates

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Speaker 1: And he does it weekend and week out. He really does.

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Speaker 1: And Justin Herbert has found out rapport with him early

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Speaker 1: and often. But what I find so fascinating with Herbert

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Speaker 1: What it does is it makes us scramble for the

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Speaker 1: Injuries have really hurt them, but hopefully they get a

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Speaker 1: And arguably, between Joey Bosa and Melbourne ingram they had

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Speaker 1: And players are adapting. You know why, because players love

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Speaker 1: a game where the Charges defense gonna have to show

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Speaker 1: up and slow him down, no question. And look they've

429
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Speaker 1: been they've been struggling. You know, these last couples an

430
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Speaker 1: exciting first couple of weeks. But I think that the

431
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are settling into what we thought they were going

432
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Speaker 1: to be, which is a team that's rebuilding and a

433
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Speaker 1: team that's pretty darn excited about all those first round

434
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Speaker 1: draft picks they're going to have this coming season. You know.

435
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Speaker 1: And it's a very young defense, and I think Josh

436
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Speaker 1: Allen is going to be out, so you know, you

437
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Speaker 1: lose your best arguably your best player on defense from

438
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Speaker 1: an already very young defense. So, um, this is this

439
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: is a game that I would hope looks a lot

440
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Speaker 1: like that did last year. Um, I think it should

441
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Speaker 1: be lopsided. I think, you know, the especially you know,

442
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Speaker 1: in the health situation, if they do get some offensive

443
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Speaker 1: line help back, if they do get some defensive line

444
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Speaker 1: help back, I'd like to see this be you know,

445
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Speaker 1: a comfortable game for Justin Herbert, you know, not one

446
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Speaker 1: where he's asked to do so much to get a win. Um,

447
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Speaker 1: after building a big lead, So especially if Justin Jones,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, Justin Jackson's going to run like he like

449
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Speaker 1: he did last week, you know, and having Mike Williams back,

450
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Speaker 1: you see the impact that had. So it's that's look,

451
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Speaker 1: I don't like saying it. It's the NFL. Every team

452
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Speaker 1: is good, and you saw what the Jaggards were able

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Speaker 1: to do to the coltson Week one. But to me,

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Speaker 1: this should be a game that the Chargers are able

455
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Speaker 1: to get get away and get comfortable and get that

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Speaker 1: win and hope that that's snowballs and they can build

457
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Speaker 1: on it for the following week. Muddy. Final thing for you,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Justin Herbart so much the last four weeks,

459
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Speaker 1: but we had this buy in between what he was

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Speaker 1: able to do against New Orleans and you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Just I go back to that first touchdown

462
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Speaker 1: to Keenan where you know he gets kind of a

463
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Speaker 1: bobbly snap, rolls right. He's doing this without the guys

464
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Speaker 1: on the right side that you know, Tom tell Usco

465
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Speaker 1: made a point to get this offseason and trade Turner

466
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Speaker 1: and Brian Bulaga. I've just I've been so impressive with

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Speaker 1: not only him getting it two guys who haven't really

468
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Speaker 1: played in an NFL game, from Tyran Johnson to Parum

469
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Speaker 1: but but really relying on his stars on modernight football,

470
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Speaker 1: and you mentioned Mike Williams. That connection. Man, we hadn't

471
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Speaker 1: really seen that, and we got to sneak preview what

472
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Speaker 1: that could be for the next five to seven years

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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. I mean, you know, the where

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Speaker 1: we're out of superlatives already and he's played four games

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Speaker 1: in his career and he hasn't even won one yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, but you that touchdown past the Keenan was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I mean that the pressure was on him immediately on

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Speaker 1: the right side. So he's now got to roll out

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Speaker 1: to some degree pirouet a little bit get away from that.

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Speaker 1: His feet he almost gets, you know, they almost get

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Speaker 1: his feet. So he's now stumbling rolling to his right.

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Speaker 1: He's got a reset and fires across his body, not

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Speaker 1: all the way across to the middle of the field,

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Speaker 1: but still across his body to a streeting Keenan who

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Speaker 1: is covered tightly by the way, and he puts it

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Speaker 1: right between the numbers. It's just it's the thing I

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Speaker 1: think with Herbert that gets people is we didn't see

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Speaker 1: this at ore. Again, he was kind of a one

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Speaker 1: read guy, and he was a one read tucket and

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Speaker 1: run because Christal ball you just feel like, maybe pound

491
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Speaker 1: it into his head. You can't mess up no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Our defense is good enough, our running game is good enough.

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Speaker 1: The only thing you can't do is turn it over.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we saw so many of those passes

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Speaker 1: aimed and directed and he never just quite cut loose.

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Speaker 1: So I give you know, Shane Steike and Papa a

497
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Speaker 1: ton of credit for rewiring him and saying it's okay.

498
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Speaker 1: You know you're It's the NFL. There's really good defensive

499
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Speaker 1: backs out there. The windows are tight. They're gonna get

500
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Speaker 1: you every now and then. But you got enough talent.

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Speaker 1: You got the arm, you've got the mobility, you've got

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Speaker 1: the you know, the stature. I mean, he's shaking guys

503
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Speaker 1: off like it's nothing. I mean that I don't remember

504
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Speaker 1: what pass it was, but there was a play when

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Speaker 1: he got away from cam Hey, I mean Ken Haybert

506
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Speaker 1: from Camp Jordan, who was wiping his face. And this

507
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Speaker 1: is one of the best pass rushers of the last

508
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Speaker 1: ten years in the league and he's got him dead

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Speaker 1: to rights and he's able to escape. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a third down pass too, and that's that's The thing

511
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Speaker 1: about Herbert, you know, is in the biggest moments, just

512
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Speaker 1: think about the game winning drive, what should have been

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Speaker 1: the game winning drive that passed to Mike Williams, and

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Speaker 1: the lest sideline was just it's just stupid. The get

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Speaker 1: you is stupid, but the row was just that stupid.

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Speaker 1: It's it's you know, and it's four games in and

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why. I think

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Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons why the Dolphins you know,

519
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Speaker 1: went to two of this week, even though they're playing

520
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Speaker 1: the Rams and Aaron Donald can certainly wreck everything you

521
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Speaker 1: want to do, and you hate to expose a quarterback

522
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Speaker 1: in his first start to that dominant force. But I

523
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Speaker 1: think they're seeing what Joe Burrow and what Justin Herbert

524
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Speaker 1: are doing and they're like, you know what, these kids

525
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: are so much better now coming in than they were

526
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Speaker 1: before that you're better off, just you know, And I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't mean it, because I know coach doesn't

528
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Speaker 1: want to hear it. Tom tillusco certainly doesn't want to

529
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Speaker 1: hear it. But man, even with four losses, these reps

530
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Speaker 1: are invaluable for Herbert. They are just planting the seed

531
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Speaker 1: and the building a foundation headed toward twenty twenty one

532
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Speaker 1: of Oh, I don't know this, this is the NFL.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, And and I think that's why,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of Charger fans that

535
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I interact with are much it's these losses are much

536
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Speaker 1: different than losses last year. You know, they are they

537
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Speaker 1: understand they're building towards something, and then you hope that

538
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Speaker 1: it's building towards what begins this week, and that's a

539
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Speaker 1: run here against teams losing records in the Broncos, the Jaguars,

540
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Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Dolphins are five hundred. The Raiders

541
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Speaker 1: have you know, a game over five hundred. But you

542
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Speaker 1: know what I'm getting at, This is a stretch where hopefully,

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Speaker 1: I think in best case, it pays off right now

544
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Speaker 1: over these next five um, you know, worst case, you're

545
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Speaker 1: building toward what's a darn exciting twenty twenty one and

546
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Speaker 1: a high draft pick for maybe that next elite receiver

547
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Speaker 1: or offensive lineman in the first round. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Money losses can certainly feel different, right you can. You

549
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Speaker 1: can lose for one in a row and be like

550
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Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, or you could be listen, we've

551
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Speaker 1: lost for one a row, but we found a French

552
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Speaker 1: at quarterback and this kid has kept us in every game.

553
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Speaker 1: And like you said, this is the stretch where you

554
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: can really flip your season around. You have an extra

555
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: playoff team in the AFC and NFC this year. You

556
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: never know what can happen, but you know it's it's

557
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: enough talking about it. You got to do it on Sunday.

558
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Speaker 1: And if they can do it, get on a a little

559
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Speaker 1: bit of a role. It could be a fun final

560
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Speaker 1: eleven games here. And I think we said it last week,

561
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Speaker 1: but I'll say it again for people that just don't

562
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Speaker 1: know because it is a weird eyebreaker. Just remember, you know,

563
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Speaker 1: all these losses are against the NFC, which if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose games, those are the games to lose. So

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Speaker 1: now you go on a stretch where Jags, AFC, Broncos, AFC, Raiders, AFC, Dolphins, AFC,

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Speaker 1: Jets AFC. That's five in a row. You win those,

567
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Speaker 1: and that's how you win tiebreakers. When you're all ten

568
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Speaker 1: and six or nine and seven and you got the

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Speaker 1: best record against the AFC from all of those groups,

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Speaker 1: that's that's how you get into the playoffs. Is that

571
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Speaker 1: last seventh team, you know. So these these games, believe

572
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Speaker 1: it or not, are considerably more important than the ones

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Speaker 1: against the Bucks and the Saints, and that's why and

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, you know, those three losses in a row.

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Speaker 1: So these are these are the ones to win. And

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see it get started here on Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And if it does, then you you kind of go

578
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Speaker 1: to the next step right where you have won a

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Speaker 1: division games since you went to Denver in twenty eighteen.

580
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Speaker 1: In week seventeen, so maybe full circle you get your

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Speaker 1: first division win in a while, because those are the

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Speaker 1: games that I'm telling you, those are the ones that

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Speaker 1: I think we're all going to be having a spotlight

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Speaker 1: on them because they have to win in the division.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's important to be Jacksonville, but you better

586
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Speaker 1: be ready to rock against Denver in a couple of

587
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: weeks as well. No question, yeah, no question. It's set up,

588
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean certainly set up for him, especially if these

589
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, his players are healthy and coming off I

590
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: are here thanks to us strip Well a buy that

591
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: ended up working out for him. You know, if that's

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Speaker 1: how if that's how it plays out, thinking cap at

593
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Speaker 1: the right time, Matt money Smith. We do it every week, man,

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Speaker 1: I always love doing it and I will see you

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Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium on Sunday, my friend. Exactly right, Thanks Chris,

596
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it a bud. All right, Chargers fans. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to our Beat Writers round Table, access to school

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Speaker 1: meals is more important than ever. As one enforced students

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Speaker 1: Subway store before November thirtieth and donate your spare change

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Speaker 1: have access to the nutrition they need. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's close Chargers Weekly with another Beat Writer's Round Table.

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Speaker 1: Fernando Rameris Sports Illustrated round Table debut. My man, how

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Speaker 1: are you, hey, Grace? I'm great, great company, Uncle Joe,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Miller. You let's have some fun. I'm excited. It's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great weekend. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: feel like this weekend's gonna be a great weekend. Uncle

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Speaker 1: Joe associated press, Joe Ready, what's up? Funny? Nothing much.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like you had to flash and

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Speaker 1: uh flashy line and this is more like your fourth

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Speaker 1: checking line with Fernando, Me and Jeff Jeff Miller La

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Speaker 1: times Jeff. You know Jeff has been on these round

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Speaker 1: tables quite a bit. I like the mix up. I

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Speaker 1: like kind of mixing and matching, and I want to

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Speaker 1: do this throughout the rest of the season. And I

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Speaker 1: thought this would be a nice a nice four boxer.

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Speaker 1: You know. The thing I love about these Chris is

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Speaker 1: no matter who's in the panel, who's hunger, I'm always

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Speaker 1: the best looking guy. So I love it. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: kick it off with the best looking Jeff. Week six

626
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Speaker 1: unexpected by the more I think about it, man, I

627
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Speaker 1: think it was the best thing for this team. Losing

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Speaker 1: four straight, a bunch of injuries. Now you have an

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Speaker 1: extra week to heal, kind of self assess what's going

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Speaker 1: on here. And even though you got to play eleven

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Speaker 1: straight games, you got a lot in front of you,

632
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Speaker 1: a favorable schedule. You're starting with the Jacks. Yeah, I

633
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Speaker 1: think this team needed a break from the losing they

634
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: needed a break from the injuries, and so I think

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Speaker 1: it worked out well that way. Now, as a few

636
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Speaker 1: of them have said to us here the last few days,

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Speaker 1: is we get to week ten and eleven, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, oh man, we can use that bye week

639
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to have right here. But you know,

640
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 1: that's just the trade offs. And but I think if

641
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: there ever a team needed a break, it it was

642
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: this team. And they you know, and they need a

643
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: break in terms of time, and they also need a

644
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: break in terms of have some lugg their way. So

645
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they'll be able to turn it on here.

646
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, the schedule is is more favorable. It's

647
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: obviously starts with about the softest touch they're going to

648
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: have maybe all season, other than perhaps the Jets is

649
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: going to be Jacksonville. But we know this team, that

650
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. That still means it's probably gonna come

651
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: down to the fourth quarter on Sunday, and they're certainly

652
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: doing a pull one of these out though. Yeah, you

653
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: never want to look overlook anybody, and you can't overlook

654
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: the Jags. Joe. I feel like the theme this week

655
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: when you talk to the players and coaches is just like, hey,

656
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: we haven't been able to play our brand of ball

657
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: and close games. We have to show enough talking about

658
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: we have to show that we can close games, starting

659
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday against Jacksonville. Yeah. And I think the thing

660
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: is in the second half they've they've struggled, especially the

661
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: third quarter. It almost seems like they lose momentum going

662
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: into the locker room with Tampa Bay and then New

663
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Orleans getting a late drive and then it just steadily

664
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: goes downhill. I think a lot of it is, you know,

665
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: having to make it, having to make adjustments. Gus Bradley

666
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: talked today about maybe they're adding too much onto the

667
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: defensive play. Do you try to adjust things and we'll

668
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: see how it goes from there. Justin Herbert are just

669
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: done more than enough to get a win, and it

670
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And I think the interesting thing went

671
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: to schedule. The rest of the way is this team's

672
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of used to play in eleven straight games, because

673
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: I think last year they played the first eleven had

674
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: to buy and then we had the five December games.

675
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: So they're kind of used to stretch of eleven straight games.

676
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: But if any team needed an unscheduled buy to get healthy.

677
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: It's this one, you know, Frenda. You go back to

678
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, this team was oh and four and they

679
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: kind of climbed themselves out of it. It was just

680
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: too late though. Nine at seven, he still don't make

681
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Livald Joseph I thought was great today. He

682
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: had that anecdote about when he was on the twenty

683
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: eleven Giants, they lost four straight, they went to a

684
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's the type of message you need veteran leaders,

685
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: and I think going into this season, we're like, all right,

686
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has gone, who's gonna be that leader to

687
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: step up? Brandon Mebane was a big leader on that defense.

688
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Limbald Joseph has been really a breath of fresh air

689
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: for this team. You know what's interesting is that this

690
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: team never lacks leadership. They do have leadership at every

691
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: single position. You have the Casey Haywards. You have even

692
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: though Durwin is injured, he was still there yesterday. You

693
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: have these guys that they they've been there before, they

694
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: know what the team needs, and guys step up in

695
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: different places. Brian boulog on the offensive line, I know

696
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: he's been hurt, but these guys step up. But limbl

697
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: has I think he's been the most underrated signing of

698
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: the of the team this offseason. The way he runs.

699
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: And that's what I was asking Gus today. I kind

700
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: of mix it up a little bit, but I didn't

701
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: say that. I meant to say that Limball, if the

702
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: play goes one way, he'll track it down into the secondary.

703
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: He'll run all the way down there and he'll chase

704
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: guys down, which is something you want to see from

705
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: these guys. But no, the veteran leadership is I think

706
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: where the young because the charges are also very young

707
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: at crucial positions, are very young at the quarterback position.

708
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: So to have a guy, a veteran like Tyrod Taylor

709
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: there kind of to help guide justin you have some

710
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: other veterans to mix them up with the young players.

711
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what's really gonna I think that's what

712
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: we really need to see in these last few games,

713
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: in this games, to see if these guys can get

714
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: back together and back on it kind of the way

715
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: they did in twenty seventeen. Can the leadership bring these

716
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: guys together and can the coaching bring it all together

717
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: to really go and make a run because now it's

718
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: seven I think seven playoffs spots, right they sneak in

719
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: and grab one of those playoffs spots. Yeah, if you're

720
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: gonna lose games, they lost three straight in the NFC South,

721
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: those are the games to lose right now. You have

722
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: the Jags, you got the Broncos, you have the Raiders

723
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: coming up, you have the Dolphins, you have the Jets.

724
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: These are all games that the Chargers. I don't know

725
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be favorite in every game, but but

726
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: you should be able to handle a lot of these

727
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: football games. And Jeff, I think with Mike Davis, he

728
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: spoke on Thursday. He seemed very focused and he said

729
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: something about, hey, listen, rush and cover has not been

730
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: at sync, getting Melvin Ingram back, getting Justin Jones back,

731
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: just adding bodies to this defense. We saw, you know,

732
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Gus had to go really deep in the lineup on

733
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. What impact do you think Melvin Ingram,

734
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Justin Jones are gonna have really not only Sunday, but

735
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: kind of moving forward here for this defense. Yeah, they're

736
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're starters, and the you know, lose starters.

737
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: The next guy comes up like they always talk about

738
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: and that's great, but the next guy wasn't a starter.

739
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: So you're there. You know you're gonna there's gonna be

740
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: some some effect. So yeah, this you know you mentioned Linnville.

741
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Joseph had talked about that that season with the Giants

742
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl, and he he mentioned

743
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: that during that when they came back, they got a

744
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: bunch of guys back, a bunch of guys got healthy

745
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: and came back, and so that's kind of maybe what

746
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: what this team's looking at, and you know they could

747
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: have a similar situation. It starts, it looks like with

748
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Ingram and Jones, and when when they do make it back,

749
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: it's certainly, uh, it's certainly going to make that defensive front.

750
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna put it back in tack and it's gonna

751
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: allow those guys on the defensive side to rotate those

752
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: linemen in like they love to do and try to

753
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: keep people fresh. So I it's like any of these

754
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: any of these guys that come back, they're all going

755
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: to be important because your depth is you know, their

756
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: depth has been more than tested on this team, and

757
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: so both those guys will be will be big additions

758
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: when they when they get back and it you know

759
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: it could be with the schedule the way it is,

760
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: you get guys back, it sort of seems like maybe

761
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: it's coming together. And I think that's one of the

762
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: reasons why in that locker room, I'm or there's a

763
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of optimism for a team that's lost four games

764
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: in a row. I think the biggest shock to this

765
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: roundtable was that I didn't start talking about Justin Herbert,

766
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: because I think that's all we've talked about the last month. Listen, man,

767
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: he's had so many impressive stats, records, whatever, the last

768
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: four games. But Joe Ready, his passer rating on third

769
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: down this season is perfect seven of nine, one hundred

770
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and seventy three yards, two touchdowns. A lot of people

771
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: knocked Herbert, I think, coming into the draft process for

772
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: like decision making, going through progressions. Yet we're seeing this

773
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: kid who looks like he's been in the league for

774
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: five or six seasons. Just your overall impressions, Joe of

775
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: how he's played and if he can keep this up

776
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: and sustained this success starting on Sunday Blitz performance, to me,

777
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: it's been the shocking thing. You don't see his rating

778
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: on Blitz's from rookie quarterbacks, especially these days, were spread.

779
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: You're playing out the shotgun and defenses are mainly playing nickel.

780
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: You just don't see that from rookie quarterbacks these days,

781
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: so that stood out. I think as far as decision

782
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: making and starting the ball, six different people have got

783
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: touchdowns from Justin Herbert this ye, which also shows the

784
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: depth of these receivers. I mean, Keenan Allen was out

785
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: and Guiton and the rest of the rest of that

786
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: group came to the forefront in the Monday Night game,

787
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: where that you know, the receiver receiver depth has been

788
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: tested pretty good and has shown they've done well, especially

789
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: with the youth that they've had. So I think that

790
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: what he can do on the run, I think we

791
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: saw a little more option game in Tampa Bay and

792
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: especially in the New Orleans game, and it seems like

793
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: they've really got to grasp over these four games in

794
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: the bye week with the playbook, just what his strengths

795
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: and weaknesses are and what he can do for We

796
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: were talking about Joe Reid and kJ Hill all offseason,

797
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: deservedly so from what they did in college and Virginia

798
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: and Ohio State. But how about Jalen git Man. He's

799
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: become like this DeShawn Jackson's weapon for Justin Herbert Tyrn

800
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: Johnson Team Billy. I think the fact that these guys

801
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: really connected during training camp, you kind of seeing that

802
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: spill over the regular season. And for folks out there,

803
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: remember it's Joe Reid, not Joe Ready. A lot of

804
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: guys get a chuckle out getting confused. Man, you know

805
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people call him Joe Ready. It's Joe read.

806
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: It's awesome. But no, And that's what I asked justin

807
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: last week going into the bye week, do you feel

808
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: like working with the twos and threes really helped you

809
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: develop a relationship with these guys going into this season?

810
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: And I think it really did. I mean, those are

811
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: the guys who was throwing too. I remember during one

812
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: training camp, Gilbert Manzano and I were standing there and

813
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: I told him like, hey, eighty three's got something like yeah,

814
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: no he's not. He may not be with the ones

815
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: are the twos here, but he might have something. And

816
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: I could notice that we're just spreading the ball around

817
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: during training camp, and you really see that there's just

818
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: the guys like him and Jalen Guyten are just coming

819
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: out of note where Jalen Guyden is making at least

820
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: thirty to forty yard reception every single game he's made,

821
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: so he's been very impressive. I remember last year against

822
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville he dropped one of those, a long pass that

823
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Philip through to him and he dropped it, and going

824
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: into the season, I remember I was a little concerned

825
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: about that. But this year he hasn't dropped any of them.

826
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: He's been perfect. He's caught him. I remember he told

827
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: us he wanted to be the Dennis Rodman of the Chargers,

828
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: so hey, I mean he kind of has been that.

829
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: I remember in the Monday night game he caught one

830
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: over his shoulder and set him up right on the

831
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: goal line basically to set up a touchdown. So I've

832
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: been very impressive with the way just not only Justin,

833
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: has been able to kind of spread the ball around because,

834
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: like you said, Keenan goes down, Mike Williams steps up,

835
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: and the rest of the guy step up. Mike Williams

836
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: is down, some of the other guys step up, and

837
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: obviously Keenan steps up. But it's been not a revolving door.

838
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: But it's been a lot of different pieces I've had

839
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: to help and these receivers have stepped up to the

840
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: plate and they have been able to make plays, and

841
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: it just you can tell that Justin isn't afraid, like

842
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: he trusts all of his receivers. He trusts all of

843
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: his tight ends, which is honestly very good to see,

844
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: especially in a rookie quarterback. You know, I talked about

845
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: this earlier this week. I did a film room with

846
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. We do it every week, and he was

847
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: breaking down some of Justin's places from New Orleans and

848
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the connections with Mike Williams man like weird. I think

849
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: we're just scratching the surface on what that duo could

850
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: look like for the next five years or whatever, because

851
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Mike was obviously hurt. But with Justin's arm and Mike's

852
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: ability to really catch anything and make circus catches, I mean,

853
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: that could be something that Chargers fans can look forward

854
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: to for a long time. The thing is, though Jeff

855
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: can Justine sustain this success, He's really kept the Chargers

856
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of these games. I think at some

857
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: point the defense is going to have to pick him up.

858
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: The running game's gonna have to pick him up because

859
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: it's just inevitable. Man like, this is a rookie quarterback.

860
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: We saw what he did Agains, Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

861
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: I don't think you could expect that reasonably every Sunday. No,

862
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And these other teams are. They're

863
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing and they're going to come up

864
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: with ways to try to prevent that from happening. And

865
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: they're going to be successful because these guys are really

866
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: good in the NFL, and he's gonna have to adjust

867
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: and that's what this league's all about. But but you're right,

868
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think Joe said it. I mean, it's

869
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: hard to even get your mind around the fact that

870
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has played so well and they're owing four

871
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: like he he has had nothing to do with, you know,

872
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: he he's played so well, exceeded all expectations. I mean,

873
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: he's had some brutal turnovers that have led directly to

874
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: some of these outcomes, but there's no reason for that

875
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: that it shouldn't have come down to that. They wouldn't

876
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: have been in these games without him, So you're right,

877
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: they've they've got to get It's a classic thing you

878
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: see in sports. They've got to get everything syncd up,

879
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: where it's the offense is playing well and the defense

880
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: is playing well and they and they just haven't been

881
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: able to do that. The defense, especially the last couple

882
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: of games, has had some just significant breakdowns, especially in

883
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: the second half. As Joe mentioned, they've blown these big leads,

884
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: and I think that's one area that they didn't give

885
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: up many points the first three weeks, and then the

886
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: last two weeks have happened. The last two games have happened,

887
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: and that's something that they've got to fix. But they

888
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: certainly have their quarterback of the future and they have

889
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: their quarterback for right now, and it's just a matter

890
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: of of of trying to take advantage of how well

891
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: he's playing and the things he's doing, because it isn't

892
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: reasonable to think that he's going to have these these

893
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: kind of great games every week. There's there's gonna be

894
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: weeks where he struggles and he's gonna need he's gonna

895
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: need the defense to win for him too. So they've

896
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: got to get it all syncd up. Yeah, Herbert looking

897
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: for his first NFL win, Chargers looking for their first

898
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: win at SOFI Stadium. All right, falls, let's go around

899
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: to horn. Give me your key to the game player

900
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: to watch. We'll start with Joe Ready to me, it's

901
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be defensive pressure. I think Gardner Minshew multidimensional

902
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: can run throw it. Uh the Uncle Rico of the

903
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: NFL per se, but he struggled. Um Jackson. I don't

904
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: know who that is, by the way, later Napoleon Dynamite.

905
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: Come on, Jeff, you can throw over the mountains over there.

906
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, I did, But I do think

907
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about the Chargers getting off the fast starts

908
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. Jaguars have gotten off the

909
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: slow starts during your losing streaks. So you know, can

910
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: both teams um kind of turn that around? And I

911
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: think I think it's also which team is which team

912
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: is desperate the most. Chargers don't want this to spile

913
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: out of control. The Jaguars. You kind of wonder right now,

914
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: Doug Morone is dead man walking, is head coach, and uh,

915
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, how much do they how much do they

916
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: play for him? I think the thing that's stunning to

917
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: me is Jaguars. This is our twenty sixth season, first

918
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: trip to Los Angeles. But that's wild to me. I

919
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: had to I had to like double and triple check

920
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: that because I think their first year in existence, the

921
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Raiders and Rams had already left. They just left, right,

922
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: So that's pretty wild, all right. Player to watch though,

923
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: Joe Jalen Guyton, I think you know he wants to

924
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: be called the Dennis Rodman of this team. To me,

925
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: he's more like Vinnie Johnson. He's more like the microwave

926
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: and uh can instantly come on and warm things up.

927
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: So if he can get by a suspect Jacksonville Secondary,

928
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: hopefully another couple big passes, and you know we still

929
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: Keenan's been limited, so who knows how much he plays

930
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: if you watch the last dance. I don't know if

931
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: we need a Dennis Rodman on the Chargers maybe going

932
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: to Vegas impromptu. I don't know if we need that

933
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: Fernando Key to the Game player to watch Key to

934
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: the Game. Anthony Lynn wants balance on his offense. He

935
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: doesn't want to put it all on his rookie quarterback,

936
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: and I mean deservedly so. And like you guys said,

937
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: it's about adjustment. So I think what they really want

938
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: to do is run the ball, So I think they're

939
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: gonna need to run the ball well. Justin Jackson, Joshua Kelly.

940
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: I know that Joshua Kelly. Josh Justin Jackson ran the

941
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: ball well in New Orleans. Joshua Kelly, I think is

942
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: still bouncing back from the two fumbles that he had

943
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: in consecutive weeks. Panthers and Tampa Bay player to watch

944
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa last year had two sacks against Minshumania.

945
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: He kinda he kind of slowed down Minshumania. So I'm

946
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna look for Joey, who is off the injury report.

947
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: He had three injuries going into the game against New Orleans.

948
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's healthy, he's back to I know he

949
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: said he's never gonna be one hundred percent again, but

950
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna he's gonna be good enough

951
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: to get at least two sacks against minshew Mania this weekend.

952
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: And if Jeff is the best looking one on here,

953
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: then I have the best set of hair on here.

954
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: And it was told to me by primetime Dion Sanders.

955
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: Those gains are on point. Jeff Miller. Follow that up, Buddy, Wow, Um,

956
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say any of that.

957
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that the key to this game

958
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: is going to be to hold the freaking lead. I'm

959
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: assuming the Chargers are going to get ahead, and they can't.

960
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: They've got to get ahead. I think you know who

961
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: knows where this Jacksonville team is going to be mentally,

962
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Chargers can get ahead early like

963
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: they've done here, we've seen them do repeatedly there, this

964
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: is not These aren't the Saints of the Buccaneers or

965
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So you gotta believe if the Chargers can

966
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: get ahead, there's a chance. I don't want to say

967
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are gonna quit or anything, but they're

968
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: not loaded like those other teams should come back. So

969
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: if they can get ahead, the key has just stay ahead,

970
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: don't you know, don't fall back into those second half melts.

971
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: And so I think that's gonna be the key, and

972
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: my player, I'm gonna go a little bit off the radar.

973
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: A little bit is Desmond King is going to do

974
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: something one of these weeks, and I just have this

975
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna say this is the week that he's

976
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: going to score a touchdown. I'm just gonna say it

977
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: right now. So I think he'll do it somehow, maybe interception,

978
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe a kick return or something. But I think he's

979
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: going to do something at some point. You know, he's

980
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: just too good of a player and he's too explosive

981
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: to not do something. He really hasn't done, done much,

982
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: hasn't a whole lot of chances in some of these games.

983
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: But he's due to something. So he's gonna be my

984
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: player to watch this week. I'm clipping it. I'm clipping it.

985
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: If it happens, you're coming on the final drive, I'm

986
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, and I'm gonna leave with that sound.

987
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: But I promise you that my key is Fernando's key,

988
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: it's running of football, and my player to watch is

989
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Justin jackson On first down, they got to get larger

990
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: CHUNKSI yarders. You know, you have to get four to

991
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: six yards. Put Justin Herbert in manageable situations on second

992
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: and third down. When this team runs the ball, they're successful.

993
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: And you look at Jacksonville. They give up one hundred

994
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: and eighty yards to Detroit last week. They vikar from

995
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: Georgia Deandrew Swift one hundred and sixteen yards. So if

996
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers can run the ball, maybe you get Brian

997
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: Bulaga back. As we take this, we don't know, but

998
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: I just think that controlling the clock against a team

999
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: like this and just taking some pressure off Justin Herbert,

1000
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: so you don't feel like he has to score a

1001
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: touchdown on every play, don't You gotta get that sense sometimes,

1002
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and some of these drives that you know, you get

1003
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: in third and long, Justin's just trying to make a

1004
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: huge play. I think you're exactly right. Yeah. I think

1005
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: he's especially saw like in the second halves here where

1006
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: they've all of a sudden, the other team comes back,

1007
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: and now he's got to try to match with the

1008
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: you know, in the last two weeks where Hall of

1009
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks were doing and he was able to do

1010
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: it in some of these cases. But I think you're

1011
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: exactly right. He has not had many you know, not

1012
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: that there are relaxed kind of moments in the NFL,

1013
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: but he has not had a chance to really breathe

1014
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: take a deep breath during a game because they've been

1015
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: up against it the whole time. Well, they need second

1016
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: and third and manageables too. I think you think. You

1017
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: look at their first down play success, it's it's near

1018
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: the bottom of the league, so you know they're getting

1019
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe one to two yards on first down plays or

1020
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: lots of yards. I mean, Justin's been basically facing second

1021
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: and third and long for a long time. So that

1022
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: running game really needs to get going because you can't

1023
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: have your quarterback dropping back each player. We're gonna see

1024
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: like New Orleans again where Herbert was pressured on six

1025
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: out of every ten snaps. So they definitely, they definitely

1026
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: need some balance in controlling the clock in this game.

1027
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: And you don't want to get predictable too. You want

1028
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: your offense. And that's why Anthony Lynn wants the run game.

1029
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: He wants the run game to open up the path.

1030
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: So he doesn't want his offensive day predictable and then them, no,

1031
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: oh hey, I'm third down, third and long. These guys

1032
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: are gonna throw it. Oh hey. So I'm sure that

1033
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: that's why he wants to control the game. That's why

1034
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: he wants the run game to be successful. And like

1035
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: you guys have said, like you have to open up

1036
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the holes. You have to get Justin, Justin Jackson and

1037
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly going. So that it's third and two, third

1038
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: and three, and you can do a lot of different

1039
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: things with that. And then instead of it being third

1040
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: and twelve, third and ten, and Justin and everybody in

1041
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: the stadium, everybody at home knowing that Justin Herbert is

1042
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna end up throwing the ball. So I think that

1043
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: that's why it's so important for them to run the ball.

1044
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like Anthony has hit the nail on

1045
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: the head saying, hey, we want to run the ball.

1046
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: We want to run it successfully. And I feel like

1047
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: that's the way you help your rookie quarterback out moving forward.

1048
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, the blueprint is honestly his first drive, the

1049
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: first drive of his career where you tap them, M'll

1050
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: show you're the starter. He goes seventy nine yards down

1051
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: the field. The rhythm of that drive like, that's what

1052
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: they need moving forward. So we'll see what happens on Sunday.

1053
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys, join us. We were gonna mix it

1054
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: up at this round table. I'm gonna mix and match

1055
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: this thing all season long. Graft fun with it. Fernando, Jeff, Joe.

1056
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Appreciate you time, guys, Thank you, thank you all right, guys,

1057
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. A big thanks to Joe,

1058
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Jeff and Fernando, Matt money Smith and of course James Lofton,

1059
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Speaker 1: and thanks to you guys for listening. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: We'll see you after the Chargers and Jaguars game on

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Speaker 1: Loser Draw, We'll be there. Have a great weekend, and

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Speaker 1: until next time, I'm Chris Harry