WEBVTT - 5 Things You Didn't Know About Karma 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:05.320 You're listening to Jojasua now with me Joja Ciua, an 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.800 iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome back to joonas here now. I hope 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.920 you all have been having an incredible July. I have 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.360 been having the July of a lifetime. Honestly, July twelfth, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:18.599 I think was the best day of my life. That 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.240 is when my EP Guilty Pleasure came out with five 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.760 new songs. Honestly, I'm surprised that I remember the date 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.320 July twelfth. I all the time people will be like, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.080 when did Karma come out? And I literally look down 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.440 because I have it on my hand tattooed four five, 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.600 twenty twenty four, and so then I will never forget 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.479 when Karma came out. I feel like I need to 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.040 get Guilty Pleasure tattooed the date of it. I have 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.440 my big old Teddy Bear tattooed. It's the Teddy Bear 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.600 with wings, with the goggles, with the construction visitors, a 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.320 whole thing on my arm. But I feel like I 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:48.920 I feel like I gotta get the date on that too, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.640 just like a little song something. I also want to 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.879 get a new tattoo, like right around my elbow on 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.040 the front. I feel like, I gotta, like really keep 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.279 this sleeve going, but I don't know what I want. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.680 If you have any tattoo suggestions, let me know. Anyways, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.160 not the point of this podcast. The point of this 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:07.959 podcast is to talk about my golden goose egg, little 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.800 tiny baby, perfect project Karma. Now, if you don't know, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.040 April fifth, Karma is the day that Karma came out, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.240 and that day truly changed my life. I don't think 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.920 I necessarily expected Karma to do what it did. I 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:28.240 mean it, it exploded, and it's unreal. It's unreal to 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.240 see the response of Karma versus Guilty Pleasure, and I 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.800 honestly enjoy it. I said, when Guilty Pleasure was coming out, 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.080 everyone was like, what are your expectations? What are your 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.640 number of expectations? And I was like, well, the thing 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.920 is is I was like, everyone, of course is going 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.160 to compare it to Karma, right, But Karma was so 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.240 much more than just a music drop. Karma was a 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.960 full career shift and it was such a big play 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.760 and I I'm truly, so so so proud of that 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.600 big play, but it was it was wild. It's wild 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.200 for me to look back and think about because I'm like, man, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.840 I knew what I was getting myself into, but I 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.440 don't think I really knew what I was getting myself into. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.480 I mean it was. It truly has become a piece 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.359 of my life history and is one of the most 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.840 significant moments in my career. Is the day that Karma 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.680 came out. Anyways, today I want to take a trip 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.919 down memory lane and I want to talk about five 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.320 things about Karma that you don't know are hidden, are 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.040 things that I've kept secret or I mean I got 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.760 I got a whole list of things. I got five 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.880 different things, some about the song, some about the video, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.840 and I think we should just freaking get right into it. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:41.399 So Karma. There's been a lot of controversy here surrounding 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.560 this song, and one of the things that I would 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:50.040 love to clear up and say very straightforward, I did 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.400 not write Karma. This is not a song that I wrote. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.480 It is my song, but it is not a song 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.320 that I wrote. Now, the thing is, you can own 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.480 a song without writing it. And a lot of people 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.720 right now coming at me you steal your songs? Yeah, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.120 can it? With all my might? That is the most 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.120 wild concept to me and me and all my industry 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.680 friends look at those comments. I mean, we actually like 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.760 laugh because it's just so funny. No one, no one 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.600 truly understands how it works. And that's totally okay. But 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:26.120 Karma was actually wrote twelve years ago for an artist, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.560 and this artist is a very very well known artist 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.520 and was a part of the writing it. This person 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.520 who was very very well known didn't want their name 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.600 attached to it because they wanted me to have my 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.400 own moment. And at first I questioned, like if that 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:42.880 truly was the reason they didn't want to have their 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.560 name attached to it, and it truly was, and I 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.800 we had a great conversation about it, and I'm very 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.840 very grateful for that because it would have it would 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.240 have shifted the narrative of the song and of the 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.800 moment of the career shift. And so for that, I 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.720 am so grateful. And I'm just I'm I'm just I 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.800 just I wish I wish I could say, but I 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.960 can't say. But it's really freaking cool how this song 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.720 came to be, the era of life and world for 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.160 this person that was originally wrote for it came to be, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.720 and then how it fell into my lap is truly 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:20.440 amazing and then you know, obviously people on the internet, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.600 there was another person that recorded a version of Karma 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.720 after the very very original there's another person and this 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.279 another person recorded it and never released it, did film 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.520 a video for it, but never released it. All of 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.479 a sudden, I release Karma, and all of a sudden, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.440 there's another girl that is like, this is mine? What 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.800 where did you come from? This is mine? And so 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.160 even though she did it first, I guess it was 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.840 not hers, she never rightfully owned it. And it is 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.040 something that I wanted to rightfully own and so I 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.599 do rightfully own and so that was a big thing. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.919 And then there's controversy of who wrote it. And the 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.760 truth is the writers on the song are this team 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.320 called rock Mafia. Now you know rock Mafia. You've heard 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.000 them in some of your favorite songs. Can't Attended by 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.560 Miley Syres and it says rock Mafia. There's a bunch 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.440 of Selena songs, I say rock Mafia. You can hear 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.359 their little added thing out of producer tag in so 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.240 many songs. Another fun thing that's fun is if you 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.400 look at the Descendants track that just came out, and 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.880 you know the song off with their Heads lead read 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.240 read read they did that song as well. They've done 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.400 a ton of my songs. They've done my song yesterday smiles. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.800 Today they did this song. Obviously, they did Karma, and 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.839 they've done oh my god. We have done five other 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.920 songs together. We've done so much together that are just 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.479 not out yet. Anyways. I remember the first time they 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.880 ever played me Karma. And the girl's name is Antonina, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.960 and Antonina is a freaking magician in the music world. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.440 She is unreal. She's a genius and I love her 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.680 with all my heart. First day that I ever recorded 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.600 with her was for a total different song. It was 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.080 a sad love song and it was really hard, was 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.000 really emotionally draining, and I was like, I don't think 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.279 I can come back to this, like now I associated 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.080 with all these crazy memories, like this is wild. And 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.720 then as I'm leaving, she was like, I have a 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.560 song that I like think might fit your vibe and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.839 she played me Karma and she played me the original 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.679 original demo of this person who I freaking loves voice 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.440 on it, and I was like, holy cow, like yes, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.240 I want a song like this, like I would love this, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.560 like you can make this and she was like well, 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.960 actually I did make this. She was like and like, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.520 it's never been out, like, do you want to put 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.320 your voice on it? And scene? So I was like, yes, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.599 let's schedule a day, let's do it. So then I 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.799 recorded Karma. I recorded a couple different versions of Karma 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.240 because I wasn't ready to say I was a bad girl. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.560 I was not there yet in life. So I was like, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.600 you know what, let's say she was a bad girl. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.960 Let's say you were a bad girl. And so we 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.040 we recorded it in a lot of different ways, and 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.600 then two years later, when it was finally time for 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.200 it to be released, we had all these versions and 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.360 I was like, you know what, I was a bad 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.680 girl is the winner. It is strong, it is powerful, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.120 and that will make a statement, and it sure as 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.120 hell did. I think that's one of the biggest things 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.000 right now for me with my career, everything is about 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.960 making a statement. Whether that be a good statement, a 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.520 bad statement, a positive stavement, a negative statement. Let's just 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.760 make a statement. It doesn't matter anyways. That is my 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:15.040 story on writing Karma, which I did not do, but 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.760 the amazing team of Rock Mafia did. The second thing 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.360 that I want to talk about is actually the Karma 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.000 music video. So the only music video that I've ever 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.160 done prior to Karma that was a two day music 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.400 video shoot was for my song High Top Shoes. Back 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.480 of the Day. Everything else was only a one day. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.760 Boomerang was one day, Knagaanster one day, Hold the Drama 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.320 one day, Every music video was one day. However, High 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.800 Top Shoes was a double double day music video shoot 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.240 and we did it over my birthday. It was so 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.200 much fun. I got to have my best friends in it. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:47.440 It was a blast. Also, something crazy that's really random 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.400 right now is because Kelly Sweeney's dance is going viral 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.000 right now. She's the one and I just talked about 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.840 it doing the red Dance from Descendants because she's like 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.040 been going so viral and she's been social media. She's 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.520 crushing it on social media. Her dances crush it, like 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.440 all of it. It's so fun to me because I 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.120 remember Kelly was actually a dancer of mine for years 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.000 and and she did so much with me. But High 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.880 Top Shoes music video was one that she was in. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.640 She was in the High Top Shoes music video and 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.120 like we were twelve and like I anyways, it's just 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.000 it's fun to see how everyone's growing up and everyone's 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.239 path that they're taking, and it's fun to see people 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.480 that you know be successful. And it makes me really 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.640 happy whenever I see people that I know be successful. Anyways, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.080 back to the point. Point was music video Shoes two days. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.240 So our first day was everything you see on the boat, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.680 so everything in white, all of that, all the like 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.239 white costume, all of that, and then also when I'm underwater, 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:39.880 so it was everything we did in white. And then 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.720 there's also the stuff in the pool. So we actually 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.080 shot the pool stuff at my director's house. Oddly enough, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:51.559 in his pool, it was freezing outside. Luckily the director 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.840 had heated as pool. He heated it to ninety for me, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.679 so it was like a hot tub, but outside it 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.880 was like hypothermic cold, Like it was so cool outside. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.839 But I mean, it was so fun. And then our 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.320 second day, day two was our beast stuff. So anything 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.240 in the Black Beast costume, when I'm in the water, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.559 when I'm in the tank, in the Black Beast costume, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.880 everything on land, all of the Black Beast costume happened 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.520 on day two. And I arranged the shoot like that 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.640 because I knew I was gonna have more fun in 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.000 the Black Beast costume, because don't get me wrong, Like 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.120 I like looking cool, I like looking girly and pretty whatever, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.280 but I like to look like radical and freaking epic 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.680 and like wild. And so when I knew what I 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.240 was gonna get to be in that Black Beast look, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.760 that I was really gonna like it. So we saved 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.800 that for day two, and boy, oh boy, was I right. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.840 That was so much freaking fun. The water that we 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.160 used in the tank on the day of the Black 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.640 Beast shoot was freezzing. It was only about you see us, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.160 like how we're like dancing in the ocean that was 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.520 really only about two inches deep of water, maybe even 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.360 an inch and a half deep. And I mean, the 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.800 special effects team on my music videos is absolutely crazy. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.720 The fact that they literally make it look like we 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.240 are on an island when we were in a set 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.880 in the middle of oh gosh, see me Valley somewhere 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:16.000 like crazy. They're freaking brilliant, and it's fascinating to get 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.480 to be a part of. It's so weird because it 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.400 feels like like we're creeping up on the one year 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.160 anniversary of filming Karma. It feels like I just got 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.120 home from that video shoot yesterday, and like that makes 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.640 me feel so excited for the future. Like I'm literally 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.760 gonna feel like I have kids tomorrow and that's crazy. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.160 I love how that's when my brain goes having kids 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.920 and users the last thing on that day of the 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.760 music video, I remember we went so far over time, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.240 and because I'm the one who pays for all my 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.120 music videos, so they're my projects, they're my babies, and 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.959 I invest everything in them, and I am responsible for 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.760 the financials and I love that because then it's it's 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.640 my set, you know what I mean, And so paying 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.400 for it that means I also if we go over time, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.120 I am paying for it. And overtime is a lot 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.880 of money per minute. It is wild how it works. Uh, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.440 But we were going overtime on Karma, and I just 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.920 kept joking with the director. I was like, well, guys, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.280 everyone's getting over time tonight because we're not done. And 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.400 he told me, he was like, we can end now, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.240 but like we don't have everything we need, Like it's 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:20.959 up to you. I told him. I was like, we're 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.520 not gonna we made it this far, Like we're not 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.480 gonna havel ass. The last bit now, like we were 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.880 gonna eliminate the shot of me coming out of the water. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.640 So the shot that like you see me rise out 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.319 of the water, that's the shot where we're gonna have 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.520 to eliminate. And I was like absolutely not, like we 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.120 we have to have that, and thank god we did, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.800 because that is one of the things that like the 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:43.000 Internet was like WHOA, what is this? And I mean, 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.599 I'm so grateful for that. Now. The next thing that 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.679 I want to talk about is kind of in the 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.640 same context but a little different. The crew on Karma. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.600 There was over ninety people working on this project of 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.760 the Karma music video, which is crazy when you think 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.160 about it. Honestly, I actually there might even be over 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.120 one hundred because we counted ninety, but we only count 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.520 a crew. We didn't count dancers, and so it was 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 a little over ninety with crew, but dancers. There was 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.440 six dancers, There was the people on the boat, so 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.680 there was well over one hundred because on the boat 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.320 for extras, I think we had twenty extras plus the 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.400 six dancers plus the two girls, So well over one 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.520 hundred people working on the Karma music video. And truly 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.280 some of the crew, I mean I I've worked with 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.520 some of the crew for years. Of course, we had 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.560 my choreographer Richie, who I've worked with since I was nine. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.160 On my first TV show he was a judge, but 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.160 then he started working with me on my career when 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 I was fourteen, So we have been together now for 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.880 seven years, which is just crazy. He does all my 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.160 music videos, all my live performances, everything. He's a brilliant 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.320 choreographer and creative director. He's brilliant. He's done Gaga for 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.679 the last decades like he's looking genius and I love 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.920 that man with all my heart. The music video director, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.880 his name is Mark Klassfield. Mark has done all of 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.720 my music videos also since I was fourteen. Oh my gosh, wait, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.880 that's so cute. Ritchie and Mark actually started with me 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.320 at the same time on the same video. They both 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.720 did Dear Eam as their first jojo project. That's crazy. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.839 I didn't even realize that. But Mark has done all 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.120 my music videos since then. He he is brilliant And 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.280 when it came time to Karma, he actually wasn't the 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.760 first person that we called. We talked with some other people, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.880 branched out a little bit, had some suggestions from other people, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.120 and then I was like, what about the guy that 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.400 used to do my music videos? Mark? Like why are 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.040 we not talking to him? And my mom was like, well, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.480 let's take a call with him. And Mark was like, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.080 I've been waiting for this one. Let's go. Because Mark 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.400 had done Britney Spears, he had done some carcass like 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.600 he he has done so much over the years, and 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.400 so he had been waiting. And I feel like Mark 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:38.840 was one of those people who worked with me when 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.560 I was a kid, so that way he could work 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.720 with me when I was adult. And I'm so grateful 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.319 for that because he is a freaking brilliant human being. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.600 Kat the photographer on that set of Karma. She she 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.840 is a She has an eye like no other. She 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.439 was the first person that has kind of brought an 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.319 element to me that I was like, wait, you came 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.559 up with that and I and that's crazy. I don't 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.960 know so that could happen because I normally come up 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.640 with all my own ideas. But she is she Okay, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.920 she does. She does all of Ariana Grande's photography. And 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.720 when I found that out and I was like, wait, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.560 she wants to worry with me? What I was like 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.920 there's literally no freaking way, and she did, and I 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.440 am so grateful for that because she truly has an 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.720 eye for art that I have never seen anything like. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.480 She is the most chill but the most chill vibes. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.360 She is just like, yeah, dude, we can do whatever, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.160 like we'll make it sick. All of a sudden, I 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.640 showed up at my studio the next day and there 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.000 was a full photo shoot set up, people with walkie talkings, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.280 and I was like, you planned all this and she 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.560 was like, yes, my team. And I was like, you 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.760 are the coolest human being literally ever, and so like, yeah, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.920 all the photo shoot ideas those are all hers. It 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.440 was like, just show up where you're costume, to your 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.120 hand makeup and we will be good. And I was like, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:54.640 all right, trusting the process and it was beyond my expectations. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.680 The last person that I just want to highlight on 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.360 the team is my makeup artist. Actually, so typically I 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.840 do all my own hair and makeup. Okay, that's a lie. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.680 I don't do my own hair. Typically, I do all 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.080 my own makeup, But for the Karma music video, it 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.320 didn't really work out timing wise for me to be 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.200 able to do my own makeup because when I do 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.680 it has to go makeup and then hair, and so 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.360 we didn't really have enough time to do that, so 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.520 they had to be done at the same time. So 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.720 we're like, all right, let's hire a makeup artist. Makeup 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.800 artist that we hired. Her name is Caitlin and she 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.360 actually did my makeup on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition when 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.840 I was nine years old. So she worked with me 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.800 on my first show, and she worked with me on 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.520 Karma and she is freaking awesome. She she has. She 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.040 brought so many brilliant ideas to the team. She is 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.560 a genius. She's so talented in her work. Oh my god. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.320 I remember sitting there just being like, man, you're really 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.000 good at what you do. Oh my gosh. There was 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.640 a disaster though, when we did the beast makeup, right, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.680 so you know how you have the beasties started to 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.920 splatter pait my face and you would have thought, I 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.800 like you would have thought, like the world was coming 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.680 crashing down on me. I was like, what are we doing? 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.160 And she was like what it looks cool and I 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.280 was like no, And thank god we ended up taking 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.760 it off because everything worked out the exact way it 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.280 was supposed to do. But it was just a very 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:19.920 funny set memory where I was like, ah, all right, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.960 I got two more things for you. First one the 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.840 dance that you know as Karma dance with the shake 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.000 with the jolt, that was not the original step. I 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.640 just saw a video of me doing the Karma dance 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.560 in Karma rehearsals and I was like, wait a second, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.080 this was the version that we did in the video. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:38.840 And I sent it to my choreographer, Richie and I 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.600 was like, Richie, there's no way and he was like, yeah, Judge, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.480 n that's how it started. And I was like, when 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.280 did a transition to what it is now? And he 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.520 was like, I have no idea, but I love it, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.400 and like He's like, you took it and ran with it, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.160 and it's it was just a very more tame version 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.800 than what it is now. But what it is now 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.640 is it freaking works, and I will take it. But 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:03.240 it's so funny for me to being like, damn, really 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.399 we really go real full out now, But if you 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.480 look at the original version that I have, it's not 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.040 that extreme. And I'm like, man, we look like we're 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.119 marking it. We look like we can breathe. This is 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.919 kind of crazy, all right. The last thing that I 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.439 want to talk about is the timing of when we 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.639 filmed Karma. So it was a little crazy, and by 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.119 a little crazy, I mean a lot crazy. So basically, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.600 I went from Karma rehearsal, Karma rehearsal, Karma Video, Shoot, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.320 Karma video, Shoot, Karma photo shoot, Dick Van Dyke rehearsal, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.679 Dick Van Dyke rehearsal, Dick Van Dyke Rehearsal, Dick Van 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.439 Dyke Shoot Hawaii for my Mom's birthday. So it was 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.000 nine days in a row of back to back, NonStop. Now, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.639 the reason why I wanted to bring this up is 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.119 because during the Karma filming, I had gotten a video 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.280 of the Dick Van Dyke Step in Time choreography that 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:53.879 I was going to be doing on the Dick Van 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:58.800 Dyke TV special. And now here's why I'm so excited 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.879 to talk about this because Step in Time, the number 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.679 that I did on the TV special, just got nominated 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:11.800 for a freaking Emmy for Outstanding Choreography, And that blows 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.240 my mind. I literally when I tell you, I was 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.399 on set of Karma running Step in Time, and everyone 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:19.680 was like Jojo, what are you doing? And I was like, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.359 you don't understand. Like, I have this big TV special 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.120 that I'm doing is for Dick Van Dyke, He's gonna 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.280 be there. I'm performing step in Time, dancing, singing, like 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.560 I have to have this down, like I need to 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.600 learn it off the videos, Like yes, I have rehearsals, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.199 but like I need to know more, like I need 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.400 to learn it so I go prepared. And long story short, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.320 it was just really fun to see me in the 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.359 Black Beast costume practicing Step in Time. It was a 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.720 little whack, but yeah. Just got nominated for an Emmy 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.720 for Best Choreography. The choreographer Alison Folk. She is so brilliant. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.760 She had such a vision for this choreography and such 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.400 a vision. I remember when I took the call initially 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.800 about doing the Dick Van Dyke special. There was no 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.520 talk of me actually dance. It was only me singing. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.320