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Speaker 1: it feels like fifty six. The high today is seventy three.
Speaker 1: The low tonight is forty nine. Good old Texas. Spring
Speaker 1: weather doesn't know what it wants to do. And you're
Speaker 1: looking at a weird angle. You're looking at the side
Speaker 1: of Ford Center where they are taking down last year's
Speaker 1: dark mode graphics and putting up this year's city Drop graphics.
Speaker 1: So by the end of today should look like a
Speaker 1: brand new building. So how you fellas doing good good
Speaker 1: good good brother? Jess just fell in him, just walked
Speaker 1: in him. What up? How was your Easter? Kirk By Nice? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't you know, had family and all
Speaker 1: that kind of Yeah. Jesse comes in with his phone
Speaker 1: playing and disrupting the whole podcast. Nate, how you doing great? Man?
Speaker 1: As Hey? I enjoyed Where were you last week? Where
Speaker 1: all did you go last week? I went to Florida twice? Twice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one time I did twenty eight hundred miles because I
Speaker 1: went to Orlando and all around Orlando we had this
Speaker 1: title pride thing. He didn't I love, came back home,
Speaker 1: kissed my wife and then left again, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and went back to Tallahassa, Florida, which I
Speaker 1: did like seventeen. Why didn't you just stay in Florida stay?
Speaker 1: Oh no, man? Why why waste times? Just one spot?
Speaker 1: I like the gas prices? Yeah, I did check him.
Speaker 1: That's why this is the first time I've traveled. But
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this ain't bad. I don't mean
Speaker 1: the gasses. You know. How long were you backed me
Speaker 1: a trick cap or something? No, that's the hardest car.
Speaker 1: That's by the one I had last Remember last week,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get that one open. How long were you
Speaker 1: back in Dallas? I spend da was about two days
Speaker 1: and then I left and left drove to Florida, drove
Speaker 1: back to Dallas, which is what about a fifteen hours
Speaker 1: fanteen all, you know, stay for two days, and drove
Speaker 1: back there. But then I came back this time and
Speaker 1: I stopped late at night, chilling in the van, slept
Speaker 1: in the back seat, and got got up. Man, you
Speaker 1: know about a couple of Man, it's good, man. I mean,
Speaker 1: God makes the world is so beautiful. You see it
Speaker 1: the same, you know, you you know, go down the
Speaker 1: same highways saying roll with the trees and the animals
Speaker 1: and the people, and you know, and I'm talking to folks.
Speaker 1: I get out and I walk around, you know, I
Speaker 1: do the John Madden thing in holla foot what's up?
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Great to see you. People recognize you
Speaker 1: have something to the voice. They don't know what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Oh? I know you you the fact guy
Speaker 1: that hangs out with Uh. Well good, They're good to
Speaker 1: have you back. I'm glad. I'm glad to get your
Speaker 1: crew back together for the first time in a while.
Speaker 1: I was in Florida last week. Where are you Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, big big day for you. What you do?
Speaker 1: Interviewed Jimmy Johnson. Oh, you're doing a documentary, Serve, tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about it. Yeah, we went down
Speaker 1: there too. We're doing a documentary on the nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: one season, which Nave. You've helped us out with that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, so Jimmy agreed to an interview and we
Speaker 1: rushed down there and got a little time with him.
Speaker 1: It's nice on the boat. Now we're at his restaurant. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, he's in Boca. Yeah, that's well, that's where
Speaker 1: his restaurant is. I'm not exactly sure. Where did you
Speaker 1: eat at the restaurant? Now we we Uh had bothered
Speaker 1: them enough, I guess. So we was opportunity for free food.
Speaker 1: Now I went no free food and bone, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He was great. Good Jesse, how was your Easter? It
Speaker 1: was good? Yea. My best friend came up. Hadn't seen
Speaker 1: him in like over two years due to all the
Speaker 1: pandemic stuff. So we got a chance to hang out
Speaker 1: and UH went to the fight and Uh again I
Speaker 1: realized that I'm old. I made you realize that I
Speaker 1: just can't hang and run like I used to. You know,
Speaker 1: I could understand that when you were drinking, but you're
Speaker 1: not even drinking but when you look at the clock
Speaker 1: and it's two o'clock, it's two thirty, and then you
Speaker 1: got to get up and try to be a person
Speaker 1: the next day. Oh man, I was like. And then
Speaker 1: for the people who do drink, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they I don't know how they drink and then do
Speaker 1: it again the next day, and like make this a
Speaker 1: like a habitual thing every weekend. I knew I live
Speaker 1: that life. You just keep doing it, sweet, so you
Speaker 1: don't remember how bad it is. Sweet I you know,
Speaker 1: with the church on Sunday, that was a struggle. Hung
Speaker 1: out too late Saturday night after the fight, but I
Speaker 1: got up and won't third a long. Sometimes you feel
Speaker 1: worse if you don't drink because you're tired and you're lethargic.
Speaker 1: If you if you, if you do it right, you
Speaker 1: just you know, it's still with the next day. What
Speaker 1: throws me off is I'm I'm very system right, very routine.
Speaker 1: So like if I start like late, like my my
Speaker 1: my nights in later on a consistent basis, or what
Speaker 1: I'm eating, is it kind of in the same wheelhouse
Speaker 1: like that stuff rex me. It throws me like if
Speaker 1: I don't have enough water in me, if I'm not
Speaker 1: sleeping enough, if I'm not eating, like like I'm not
Speaker 1: the most I'm I'm not sitting there saying like I'm
Speaker 1: the most healthiest either either ever. But like if it's
Speaker 1: fast food for breakfast, fast food for lunch, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's everything is like always out to eat for
Speaker 1: a multiple days in a row, not enough water, not
Speaker 1: working out, not getting the proper sleep, I'm finished. Really,
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, We'll talk about the fighting a little bit.
Speaker 1: You went, right, yes, anybody all right? I know there's
Speaker 1: something that you want to get into. Tragic story over
Speaker 1: the weekend where a young man camera ray lost his
Speaker 1: life on March eighteenth, and then kind of implicated our
Speaker 1: player was under what was an under investigation? Well the
Speaker 1: group question, Yeah, the good question him. He was the
Speaker 1: one who kind of stood out on the security camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you got called in. So what's the latest development
Speaker 1: they've made a couple of rest over the weekend? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I was Calvin Joseph. Sorry, Yeah, he was with
Speaker 1: a group a month or so ago, and not him,
Speaker 1: but the guys he was with got into a fight
Speaker 1: with another group and then that didn't last long. But
Speaker 1: then as they were pulling away. Some of the people
Speaker 1: that he was with in the vehicle shot at the
Speaker 1: rival group and one of the Raymond I think he
Speaker 1: was Cameron. Cameron he was killed and so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were able to identify Kelvin Joseph on the videotape
Speaker 1: and so they questioned him and I think two arrests
Speaker 1: were made yesterday Friday, right, yeah, but they quickly after
Speaker 1: they question him. So so yeah, it's an interesting tragic
Speaker 1: situation and it's going to be interesting, I guess to
Speaker 1: see where he lands. Is there are laws in place
Speaker 1: that just being in the vehicle could land him in
Speaker 1: serious trouble. So it does. It does. Side of that,
Speaker 1: it's what did the Cowboys do? What did the NFL do?
Speaker 1: That kind of thing. So, you know, the the tragic
Speaker 1: thing is is that lives were lost and ruined in
Speaker 1: this moment, and that we'll start there. Thoughts and prayers
Speaker 1: go out to the ray family because a lot of
Speaker 1: times in these situation is that the when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with a high profile that gets lost, that get lost
Speaker 1: like someone lost a son, a brother, like a friend.
Speaker 1: He's gone. This was twenty years old or eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: He was he was celebrating the birthday he was celebrating.
Speaker 1: Was here celebrating a birthday from Athens? Tell he was
Speaker 1: up coming up from I guess up, but down or
Speaker 1: whatever from Athens, Texas. That's it. He's done over what
Speaker 1: a disagreement you step up my shoes or push I
Speaker 1: don't know what what it was. But you know, a
Speaker 1: life is now lost in a family's life is turned
Speaker 1: upside down because of him. Now, when you come to
Speaker 1: the Kelvin Joseph situation, this is a guy who's kind
Speaker 1: of come in with a little bit of a character
Speaker 1: issues from his time and industry in college, and you
Speaker 1: hate to see this happen because there are so many
Speaker 1: different ways this thing could have been handled but for
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph to put himself And it's not just Kelvin himself.
Speaker 1: We've seen athletes all across the board for years and
Speaker 1: years and years and years not fully understand that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when all said and done,
Speaker 1: you're the one that's going to lose the most when
Speaker 1: you put yourself in these situations. Did you know the
Speaker 1: night of that someone died? Probably not, But the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is you were in a car, and
Speaker 1: I believe the SUV was owned by you. Um, very
Speaker 1: rarely do you get in the car, Like when I
Speaker 1: go in to hang out with people. I know who
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with. I know he likes to drink,
Speaker 1: I know he carries guns, I know he got a
Speaker 1: hot temper. I know who I'm hanging out with. So
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that Kelvin got into
Speaker 1: that car and didn't know folks were strapped. Find it
Speaker 1: hard to believe the off the gate. I also find
Speaker 1: it hard to believe that there was a moment in
Speaker 1: time from when the when the fight ended, there had
Speaker 1: to be either a walk or run to the truck,
Speaker 1: And in that moment there had to be something that
Speaker 1: said because they had to turn around, someone had to
Speaker 1: know that there was guns being loaded, guns being rounds
Speaker 1: being put in the chamber, cocked, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it, before that situation happened. I just I need
Speaker 1: for I need for these guys to understand that these
Speaker 1: like these situations can be avoided. This was at an
Speaker 1: avoidable situation. This situation did not have to happen. And
Speaker 1: there were multiple points in this thing where where and
Speaker 1: I get it, it it ain't the cool thing to do,
Speaker 1: and it ain't the tough thing to do. Hey, hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting in this car with y'all. Right, Damn
Speaker 1: what you think about me, Damn what you say about me,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm the one
Speaker 1: that's gonna lose the most. The incident happened, then you
Speaker 1: don't say a word. Now, as someone Nate, you're also
Speaker 1: someone who's been in this organization for a long time.
Speaker 1: There's people to call. There's people to call. If not
Speaker 1: that night, that next morning, not to come in and
Speaker 1: say that you're a snitch or you're this, or you're that,
Speaker 1: and and and and and and let me address Let
Speaker 1: me address the snitching situation. It's my camera's all up.
Speaker 1: Let me address this snitching situation thing. Okay, because because
Speaker 1: people get on Twitter and half of you have more
Speaker 1: than half of you, ninety five percent of you, ain't
Speaker 1: gonna bust a graper in the fruit fight, ain't gonna
Speaker 1: kill none, ain't gonna let nothing die. So don't sit
Speaker 1: here and get on Twitter and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now you're talking about some old he's snitching, he's nitch
Speaker 1: and he's nitching snitching or ratting. Those type of rules
Speaker 1: only apply to those who are in the street. Code
Speaker 1: only applies to those who are in the street. Let
Speaker 1: me be very clear about that. If you're not a
Speaker 1: street dude, and only sixty five percent of them right,
Speaker 1: Because when the judge start giving out what we call
Speaker 1: football numbers, when that judge started talking about twenty five years,
Speaker 1: twenty years, thirty years, you sing because I ain't going
Speaker 1: to jail for nobody. But the fact that Kelvin held
Speaker 1: onto this for an entire month until he became a
Speaker 1: person of interest identified him that to me, not to me,
Speaker 1: he became the only suspect. He became he became the
Speaker 1: only see. It went from trying to find these suspects too.
Speaker 1: He became memory. Lewis, you became the only suspect, Nate knew.
Speaker 1: You become the only subspect because of who you are
Speaker 1: and what you're about into the snitching point. I told
Speaker 1: my kids a long time ago. Let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 1: That dude of that girl the first one to say,
Speaker 1: hey man, let's keep this quiet. Let's don't say a word,
Speaker 1: keep it to yourself, don't let the police walk to
Speaker 1: him first. I've seen it. I've been a part of it.
Speaker 1: It ain't no such thing. People that's in the federal
Speaker 1: pen with any reduced time. If you see a person
Speaker 1: that has no reduced time, that means he's met committed
Speaker 1: a petty crime. Oh he's got semi five years or
Speaker 1: more and it can't be reduced everybody else. It's a
Speaker 1: very same That sounds good on the rap Brocker, go
Speaker 1: ahead on ja. It does sound good for the rap record.
Speaker 1: That sounds good for whatever you want to kind of
Speaker 1: portray to be. But let's be honest, like to have
Speaker 1: this whole like, it blows my mind when I see,
Speaker 1: like you know, athletes are saying that they're in the
Speaker 1: gang or they're in this and they're rap how they
Speaker 1: are though, how like like you that ain't real. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you a lot ain't real. A lot of
Speaker 1: kids in certain areas, it's not every area. And then
Speaker 1: we're talking very small are in gangs have been a
Speaker 1: part of gangs. Are gangs have kicked them out because
Speaker 1: they saw that. You know, a lot of times gangs
Speaker 1: kick you out because they see you have a future.
Speaker 1: They won't hold you to the creed or the policies
Speaker 1: and I get that, but but there ain't no way
Speaker 1: that you could be a professional athlete and still be
Speaker 1: gang backing. Don't don't even don't those two don't even
Speaker 1: make it that. Yeah you can, Yeah you can, t
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, Yeah you can. I'm sorry, Jess. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna talk real, let's keep it real. I
Speaker 1: just find it hard. I find it. I find it
Speaker 1: hard for you to be a true gangster when when
Speaker 1: when you have a seven am report time, I find
Speaker 1: it real hard to be a true gangster when it's
Speaker 1: search things. It's such thames called lieutenants, such things called soldiers,
Speaker 1: And depending on who you are and where your money,
Speaker 1: if you findancing, you will be held to the same rules.
Speaker 1: If if I'm raking out to the brotherhood, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be held to the same same standards. No I'm not,
Speaker 1: do I have to tote up? No? I don't. You
Speaker 1: told it? You know if I'm raking you down? What's
Speaker 1: the deal it? Life is so funny because we we
Speaker 1: think that the higher you go up as a human
Speaker 1: being in the in this world, in this life, we
Speaker 1: think things don't still stick to us. Yes it does.
Speaker 1: That's what took a lot of It took a lot
Speaker 1: of guys a lot of time to realize, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't have to be a part of this. You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's an oath that I made and it was
Speaker 1: the wrong oath, you know. Uh, yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: few guys that hold on to that because they think
Speaker 1: once they get out of football, they're gonna save all
Speaker 1: their friends. But you can't say that type of person.
Speaker 1: That type of person have to save themselves. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it never works out. And
Speaker 1: we're looking at this, this Joseph situation where now your
Speaker 1: career is on the brink, like your career is on
Speaker 1: the brink, because we still don't just because you weren't
Speaker 1: arrested today. Hey, now, now what's gonna come down to?
Speaker 1: Because if he if he and we don't know when
Speaker 1: they had the meeting his lawyers and the police. We
Speaker 1: don't know what was said, but he wasn't arrested. Immediately
Speaker 1: after talking to the police, they then go and make
Speaker 1: arrest for two other these gentlemen. And I'm no lawyer,
Speaker 1: I'm not, but what I'm saying is it looks like
Speaker 1: he gave information that led to this arrest. So now
Speaker 1: when these guys get arrested, the detectives or whoever were
Speaker 1: going to say, yeah, we have information that we got
Speaker 1: from Now what's going to be our story versus his story?
Speaker 1: And then it comes down to who got the better lawyers? Right,
Speaker 1: who got who got the better lawyers? At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you you would think Joseph has the
Speaker 1: most money, has the most backing because he has the
Speaker 1: celebrity that he's probably gonna have the better representation when
Speaker 1: it comes to court. No, you know, I laugh because
Speaker 1: you you you you touching on some important parts. But
Speaker 1: it's it's too much to go over. It's too much
Speaker 1: really because if these guys, and I'm not a lawyer,
Speaker 1: I've been in some bad situations that don't turned out
Speaker 1: to be good and bad for Nate. So I'm giving
Speaker 1: you part of the experiences that I've been around. And
Speaker 1: this does not have nothing to do with Kevin jose
Speaker 1: because I was not there. But he can be automatically released.
Speaker 1: If these two guys that have been turned in and say,
Speaker 1: hey man, this dude didn't know what I was gonna do.
Speaker 1: He know I was going to that level? You know
Speaker 1: that releases Kevin Joseph if you get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that is just the truth about it. If they say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I was hot, I got mad. Yeah, it's make him
Speaker 1: accessory that he's in my car. I know some people
Speaker 1: that that went down. And then and then the people say, man,
Speaker 1: this guy did not know this young lady did not
Speaker 1: know that this was going down like this, that I
Speaker 1: was gonna take this shot that can release him. But
Speaker 1: we don't know. And I don't want to speculate, and
Speaker 1: I don't want people run around saying, well Newton said,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying or something you know, But
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking about a life the de
Speaker 1: Ray family, you're talking about a mother and a father.
Speaker 1: That is who I would be scared of. That's who
Speaker 1: I would That's who I would be scared of. In
Speaker 1: their lawyers because this goes so much for thinking for
Speaker 1: Kevin Joseph than he knows. So that's what I would
Speaker 1: be scared of. Uh and uh, I just feel bad
Speaker 1: and and and and I'm saying this on right here now.
Speaker 1: Y'all need to bring me over there and talk to
Speaker 1: than players. See, because it's nowhere in the world you're
Speaker 1: gonna know this go down like this. I'm talking about life,
Speaker 1: ain't te about cussing somebody out, just throw a few
Speaker 1: hands and walked away. It's nowhere in the world that
Speaker 1: you you ain't smiling to know that you need to
Speaker 1: get the joneses out ahead of this. But see they
Speaker 1: you know what, I've had the luxury of talking to
Speaker 1: the rookies for the last couple of years here and
Speaker 1: sad to say that I've talked to Kelvin Joseph in
Speaker 1: those rookie meetings, and we've seen some posiums upon some posiums,
Speaker 1: and we've seen people being brought in and being brought
Speaker 1: I mean we we've Josh Brett, who've been a part
Speaker 1: of some stuff here, has spoke to guys I mean
Speaker 1: they're they've But as you and I both know, you're
Speaker 1: still going to have certain guys that are still going
Speaker 1: to say even in that meeting, it's gonna go in
Speaker 1: one ear and out the other, and they're still gonna
Speaker 1: go and do what it is they want to do,
Speaker 1: how they want to do it when they're now The
Speaker 1: hope is that this changes. This is this is a
Speaker 1: trajectory changing, a pivot moment for Kelvin Joseph that now
Speaker 1: he realizes I really and truly got to get my
Speaker 1: crap together because I don't know what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna do. Are they're gonna keep him on the roster,
Speaker 1: That's my question. I mean, do you let him go
Speaker 1: or do you try to that's gonna be That's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough situation. I mean, I don't know. And
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been one who have been very, very
Speaker 1: very forgiving and merciful when it comes to certain situations
Speaker 1: where they've given guys second and third and fourth and
Speaker 1: fifth chances to kind of rectify situations. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but we've also seen that the league is probably not
Speaker 1: going to be I mean, we've had cases here where
Speaker 1: people have not been charged by the law and still
Speaker 1: had to face stiff punishment from the league on this
Speaker 1: team and the round, you know. So, I mean there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some repercussions that come down. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's going to be. Teams may want to shy
Speaker 1: away from this stuff and say, listen, we don't need
Speaker 1: any more black publicity or that kind of person in
Speaker 1: the locker room or so on the sofa. But to
Speaker 1: your point. They absolutely when I say make those phone
Speaker 1: calls in these moments. This is one of the things
Speaker 1: about the Jones family. In this organization, there isn't much
Speaker 1: over the years, and this dates back all the way
Speaker 1: to the early nineties when you were here. There ain't
Speaker 1: much that ain't been that ain't happened here. The cowboys
Speaker 1: they this is if there's one place that is damaged
Speaker 1: control ready, it's this organization. Unfortunately, unfortunately, fortunately unfortunately, but
Speaker 1: when they get when you when they get woken up
Speaker 1: to a call for a situation this big, and they're
Speaker 1: surprised by it. What's the lease that that that that
Speaker 1: that'll set some folks off? The lease, the lease, the
Speaker 1: lease team, the highest team, all these teams are ready
Speaker 1: see this. It's just one of the few things that
Speaker 1: got out Jesse, you know. And this is why that
Speaker 1: phone call should have been made night off, because if
Speaker 1: the phone call was made night of and they could
Speaker 1: have got in front of this, this doesn't blow up
Speaker 1: and they would have had Joseph over there. This doesn't
Speaker 1: blow up the way it has blown up now to
Speaker 1: to to where it's at that Again, there's enough people
Speaker 1: in this organization that know enough people, and enough pds
Speaker 1: around here in DA's and judges and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. This could have got if you're if Joseph,
Speaker 1: whatever he said that day could have been said a
Speaker 1: month ago and they could have been on top of
Speaker 1: this and they couldn't. And if the system loves those
Speaker 1: that come forward versus those that are forced to come forward,
Speaker 1: if they would have say, Okay, this kid caress on
Speaker 1: his mind. He's got a heart, he's got a mind.
Speaker 1: But now society saying, wow, this dude waited a mind
Speaker 1: because they yeah, you know, if you're right, Jess, how
Speaker 1: can you how can we get a young man a
Speaker 1: young lady to be proactive? You know? It happens in
Speaker 1: our homes, you know, like, man, why are you telling
Speaker 1: me this HEREI was happening what you know? You? And
Speaker 1: that is what gag. Gang related things for those of
Speaker 1: y'all that don't know the game related things are bigger
Speaker 1: than I'm talking to a gang member, Bigger than God,
Speaker 1: bigger than bigger than dad, Mom, bigger than brothers sister.
Speaker 1: So when you gain related and everybody decides that they're
Speaker 1: gonna close their mouth, it takes what happened for somebody
Speaker 1: to open them all. Now. I know for a fact
Speaker 1: that when they contacted Joseph hey Bro his own film,
Speaker 1: we got enough to deduct. Don't come to us playing.
Speaker 1: Do not come to us playing, So missus Joseph couldn't
Speaker 1: come plain, I'm being honest. They they told him, don't
Speaker 1: don't come playing. If you come playing, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: play with you and see, you gonna lose, because it's
Speaker 1: a life involved. And like you just beat up somebody,
Speaker 1: you walk away and get him some money because a light.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say, I wouldn't be so my
Speaker 1: word about my friends, as I would be worried about
Speaker 1: these parents. That civil suits, that civil and in the lawyers.
Speaker 1: That's why I would be worried about that civil suit.
Speaker 1: On the way. All right, let's take our first break
Speaker 1: when we come back. Voluntary workouts start today. And if
Speaker 1: i'm missus Joseph, I am out there running more than
Speaker 1: anybody I'm I'm you'll see the face how broad it's
Speaker 1: makeup time and you can't you can't do enough? Does
Speaker 1: he show up? Will be I would make them send
Speaker 1: me home. I'll make them send me home, and and
Speaker 1: and my whole life would change. You have to. I'm
Speaker 1: telling and people like way he doing it called yes
Speaker 1: I am that's why. Yes, that's why I'm doing it.
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Draft. Voluntary workouts started today.
Speaker 1: What exactly our valid terry workouts? Because there they say voluntary,
Speaker 1: but are they really voluntary? And how much pressure is
Speaker 1: on you as a player to be at voluntary workouts?
Speaker 1: The greater the athlete who comes in shape, The greater
Speaker 1: the athlete who comes in shape. It don't mean a thing.
Speaker 1: The Nate News of the world. It's the id for
Speaker 1: the coach to see being that trying. No, there are
Speaker 1: tiers tears who this this matters for the Jesse Hollies
Speaker 1: of the world. Everything right, it ain't voluntary. It's mandatory
Speaker 1: that you get there. For those middle tier guys, it's
Speaker 1: mandatory that you you get there. It's hopeful for your seas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your dacks, your tanks, those players of the worlds. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen guys who had these workout bonuses
Speaker 1: in the places they're supposed to be and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You gotta do some many percent of
Speaker 1: the workout bonuses and be here for the all season workouts.
Speaker 1: And it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars four hundred
Speaker 1: thousan dollars. And they were like, we're out, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm training in Florida, I'm training in California. Now
Speaker 1: y'all can exactly. But for those guys, it's it's truly voluntary. Um.
Speaker 1: But you would like to see as full of participants
Speaker 1: as possible because this is the part where the team
Speaker 1: building and bonding starts to come together. So you would
Speaker 1: like to see your Dak Prescott's of the worlds in
Speaker 1: the building working out, showing that true leadership, you know,
Speaker 1: bonding guys together, getting some extra working in the facility
Speaker 1: while you know you can be here doing different things
Speaker 1: like that. So for those guys, it's always a hope.
Speaker 1: It's hope. It's really truly voluntary for guys like Dak
Speaker 1: and those those caliber of players on your roster, but honestly,
Speaker 1: for and that's only really for about maybe six to
Speaker 1: ten guys. Really for everyone else, it's I'm either trying
Speaker 1: to keep a job or we're working to get a
Speaker 1: promotion in that job. So I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I'm here doing what I got to do in the offseason.
Speaker 1: We know that the team coaches and all they want
Speaker 1: the guys here. They don't you know, voluntary or whatever.
Speaker 1: How did the players feel but guy doesn't show up
Speaker 1: and they're kind of like, well, it's just choice for
Speaker 1: is it more like you need to be here? You're
Speaker 1: looking down on them a little. I've been on both
Speaker 1: sides of that. Well, I wasn't here, and guys will
Speaker 1: be strange because we were in a winning mode or
Speaker 1: we were building for a winning mode. So guys, you
Speaker 1: know and CEI strength coach, coach warsick, and he was
Speaker 1: really in control of everything, and a lot of players
Speaker 1: will follow his league, you know, you know, like where
Speaker 1: you been man, which you know they cracking Joel that man,
Speaker 1: what you need to do not to be even a dozen?
Speaker 1: Don't us to day two days? You know, they be
Speaker 1: on you, man, and they be giving that in troy Ae,
Speaker 1: we just be we give you that. Look, man, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, wow, I should have been hire man. I'm
Speaker 1: a month later, you know. And then but what I
Speaker 1: started doing was I would go to Florida and work out,
Speaker 1: so they knew you know that wait na wait, Nate,
Speaker 1: you know, oh he had the fat farm. I call
Speaker 1: it personal everybody does have a personal training, but I
Speaker 1: had the fat farm. So when you were there when
Speaker 1: other guys didn't show up, did you kind of like
Speaker 1: did you give that? Like? Because it was always the
Speaker 1: guys that missed were guys that so dedicated to the game.
Speaker 1: Wherever they was, they was working out, you know, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna be there. Man. Yeah, my guys, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. Jimmy was Jimmy. Jimmy had you fearful, bro,
Speaker 1: he had you feel for you know, so you worked
Speaker 1: out or you didn't make the team. And all the
Speaker 1: guys he believed that if he drafted the right guys
Speaker 1: with the right attitude, who loved the game, which he
Speaker 1: tried to do most of the time, they were gonna
Speaker 1: be here. You know. You may if you're a great player,
Speaker 1: you may get to go back and finished and getting
Speaker 1: you a degree. But Jimmy old home you had for
Speaker 1: is some of y'all have five to get your degree.
Speaker 1: You can wait you there to pay for it. You
Speaker 1: know where you leave here? How are the how are
Speaker 1: the guys if if somebody's not showing up? Do they
Speaker 1: call the other fellows? Are they just like, nah, let
Speaker 1: him do it. That's the coaches thing in the relationship
Speaker 1: you have with your coach or coach about the players.
Speaker 1: Are they calling the other position guys saying where you
Speaker 1: at here? Yeah? Like you hit the guy up, but
Speaker 1: you know, like you you know, yeah, you know who
Speaker 1: will be here? You know, like if your position groups,
Speaker 1: You're like, I was like, Roy's not showing up. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like I look around the room,
Speaker 1: like Dez may slide in here one day this week,
Speaker 1: maybe he may run a couple of routes he ain't coming.
Speaker 1: You know, you just knew, you just knew, you knew that,
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's it's it's it's a lot of I
Speaker 1: gotta take care of my own. Yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of I gotta take him because because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, when you get when you get to
Speaker 1: the live football, once you are in this league and
Speaker 1: you you understand the business side of the league and
Speaker 1: the performance side of the league, you kind of stay
Speaker 1: out of that and some guys are missing for business purposes.
Speaker 1: Some guys are saying, well, I'm not showing up because
Speaker 1: I want to contract, you know. So, so you have
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. So now do I say it's bigger, No, bro,
Speaker 1: you ain't showing up to that. You can black, bro,
Speaker 1: don't black get your own like I'm working on getting
Speaker 1: my life changing money. Hopefully you hope that you get this.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of Man, if you understand the
Speaker 1: business now, the point where you kind of get a
Speaker 1: little bit like, hey my guy, let let's come, let's
Speaker 1: try to come on, that is when you get the
Speaker 1: training camp. Ya training camp is when it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I Nate like just getting shaped, like you know, hey,
Speaker 1: hey put that, put that, put that chicken back, bro,
Speaker 1: put it back. You don't need it. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: Because now that's a fact. Then everybody bottom dollar because
Speaker 1: if I don't have my my starting guard, he ain't
Speaker 1: ready to go. Well then as a running back, if
Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, fat boy, I can't get right because
Speaker 1: you ain't right. Yeah, and Troy, it's like hey, bro,
Speaker 1: because if you go down with injury because you wait, now,
Speaker 1: I gotta put that guy in. Yeah, let's go. Let's
Speaker 1: let you know. So training camps when you kind of
Speaker 1: get those calls, like you know, but you have to
Speaker 1: understand when it comes down to that business part of it. Though,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, man, you used to be so
Speaker 1: I laugh and I know I joke about everything, but
Speaker 1: you know you're getting dogged out because the back then,
Speaker 1: the media were more than allowed and sometime encouraged to
Speaker 1: blast you if you didn't show up to these workouts.
Speaker 1: Hey they were the media they do is nowhere to
Speaker 1: be found. But then you come back in town the
Speaker 1: day before the first mini camp, right, and they started
Speaker 1: union and you run around a round and I'll be
Speaker 1: looking around like, wow, why am I started? I didn't
Speaker 1: make difference, so I would joke, but it was a
Speaker 1: serious deal, Like you said, close he got in the
Speaker 1: training count, good morning tune you become to us happening
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be that guy the fellows Now,
Speaker 1: all right, two weeks until the draft. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that when we come back. And Jesse went to see
Speaker 1: Errol spins unify the titles? Truth man? I heard? What
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Speaker 1: studio for the last segment of the show. Drafts coming
Speaker 1: up in two weeks. What is it like right now
Speaker 1: for draft prospects? Are they working out? Are they just
Speaker 1: what are they doing right now? Is they? Are they
Speaker 1: through Linx's question first jets. Are they threw with individual
Speaker 1: workouts just close to the draft or some guys still
Speaker 1: working out now they're still visits going on, not visits
Speaker 1: workouts workouts. Yeah, but when you visit, they work you out. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: When you when you're going to visit, it's not just
Speaker 1: to sit down talk. They'll still get you out there.
Speaker 1: To do some do some stuff. Now you may say
Speaker 1: I'm not running the forty up, but they might get
Speaker 1: you on the field to do some positions like type stuff.
Speaker 1: But they're working out getting ready for like rookie mini
Speaker 1: camps and stuff. No, you don't know where you're going.
Speaker 1: This is this is your Some guys are still probably
Speaker 1: staying in staying in shape, uh, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to show the rookie money camp out of shape. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who said, I'm done with
Speaker 1: all of this nonsense. Yeah, I'm gonna sit on I'm
Speaker 1: gonna set the fat part of my butt and chill
Speaker 1: and get ready for draft draft days. You know what shape.
Speaker 1: It happens every year. It happens every year, every single year.
Speaker 1: And you see guys, it will happen here. You see
Speaker 1: guys coming in from a community camp and they'll be
Speaker 1: thrown up on the field and they'll be out of
Speaker 1: shape and they'll be having to do extra running aft
Speaker 1: the practice and coaches say, well, what happened, And they'll say, well,
Speaker 1: for the last once, I got through the combine in
Speaker 1: pro days and I shut it down. And you know,
Speaker 1: you'll be amazed with two weeks can do. My agent
Speaker 1: gave me a couple of dollars. I went to Corbo.
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Speaker 1: a great place. Bobby Carpenter, you know him getting mentioned.
Speaker 1: Bobby was with there too, just hit about what was there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he didn't never get he ever got any flat food.
Speaker 1: It was always Tony. Yeah, Tony's fault. So um. The
Speaker 1: Athletics said Cowboys have gotten worse and that it was
Speaker 1: a bad offseason and they need a home run again
Speaker 1: in the draft. What do you guys think? Who Malik someone?
Speaker 1: We lost Milik some here the other day. Right, your
Speaker 1: guy was my guy, and this is what I want
Speaker 1: to ask you. Kurt right quickly said whistles my guy
Speaker 1: and Jesse guy and that was this guy. He sold
Speaker 1: me on your guy. Who have we lost, Kurt? And
Speaker 1: who have we gained because our losses has not been
Speaker 1: covered in my in my estimation, you know, that may
Speaker 1: make us worse. And and well, the losses haven't been
Speaker 1: truly covered. And that's what makes going into the draft,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to go into the draft having
Speaker 1: all of these glaring kneeds, like, yeah, it's already a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty crap shoot for the guys in the draft.
Speaker 1: And the more guys that you kind of need in
Speaker 1: the draft to hit, the less like, the less likely
Speaker 1: that they're going to have a successful year because, yeah,
Speaker 1: your first round pick is supposed to hit, right, that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be a no brainer. And you know we
Speaker 1: saw last year with Michael Parsons that was a no brainer.
Speaker 1: It hit. Then you start looking to you know, two
Speaker 1: second round pick and and and second through fourth, fifth
Speaker 1: really rounds out your rocks, like like that is your
Speaker 1: that is the meat and potatoes of your rocks. That's
Speaker 1: where the money, like, that's where your your core is
Speaker 1: is at. And so yes, first round picks are that
Speaker 1: for that reason, they're supposed to be able to come
Speaker 1: in Day one started us impactful players, people who's going
Speaker 1: to change the franchise in a way that other guys
Speaker 1: can't the rest of those guys. That's what you need
Speaker 1: to truly hit. And if you're saying that, man, we
Speaker 1: need this, this, this, this, this, this and this, it's
Speaker 1: one thing about right, We're gonna focus on this. You
Speaker 1: don't need, but one thing what you don't need, but
Speaker 1: one out of the first round off whatever you get. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we need. You know what, I'm not
Speaker 1: going there. What do we not now? I'm not going
Speaker 1: up because hey, Chris, you weren't here. You weren't here
Speaker 1: last week. But Nate called in and he talked for
Speaker 1: what ten minutes? Not even that, and what what? How
Speaker 1: do you get off the phone? We need we need
Speaker 1: to office a line. No, don't even get me going
Speaker 1: there by we don't. You know. I read something where
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman said, you know, after he apologize, you know,
Speaker 1: if he said his sorrows to the family of the
Speaker 1: Rays family, he said, we don't, we don't need, we don't.
Speaker 1: We got three good corners, we got three decent corners,
Speaker 1: and we can we can fill it in there. We
Speaker 1: we have that places we needed and I know, y'all, man,
Speaker 1: we need some Why we need a WI We need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I'm serious, we need a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We need a legit, healthy wide receiver to come in
Speaker 1: and compliment until we know what to kill. Who who's
Speaker 1: your third guy? Now? C D Gallup, which doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like you's not gonna be ready? And who have you got?
Speaker 1: Who's after that? So let me actually, but let me
Speaker 1: ask you this question. You said you need you said
Speaker 1: you need you need a number one receiver, because if
Speaker 1: you need a number one receiver, that means you miss
Speaker 1: evaluated with a Mark Cooper. I mean, what what what?
Speaker 1: What what CD Lamb was? If you're telling me that
Speaker 1: we need to get another receiver in here, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Jesse as a number one we miss evaluate.
Speaker 1: Who's CD Lamb? If Cede Lamb come in? How many?
Speaker 1: It's like nine routes within the route tree? How many?
Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? I know it's it's probably more announced
Speaker 1: since this new new world, new age, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: about nine routes on the route tree. If he can
Speaker 1: run seven of them, the Dow guy, no CD. If
Speaker 1: he can run seven of those routes to perfection, then
Speaker 1: I'm then I'm good. We can we can. We can
Speaker 1: go get just almost a guy, but if he can
Speaker 1: run with three or four of them on this route tree, yeah,
Speaker 1: we better go out and get go out and get
Speaker 1: a bullet all that can help him speed up his process. Yes, sir, see,
Speaker 1: because I'm all about what's what's good for Dak, and
Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody say, and I don't care
Speaker 1: who running tail that Dak is not a natural not
Speaker 1: yet a natural drop back read it on the run quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so until he come that, you need receivers that
Speaker 1: can run things to perfection. So if that means go
Speaker 1: out and get a number one receiver that can help
Speaker 1: him help CD competition wise perfect his game, yes, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: surprise you that the business of the NFL is like
Speaker 1: basically nobody's gonna sign any more free agents after the draft,
Speaker 1: right where all these teams like Cowboys still have a
Speaker 1: lot of holes to feel. Like you said, why they
Speaker 1: don't feel that way, Kurt, They don't feel that way.
Speaker 1: They're bargain shoppers. Yeah, they don't feel that way. They
Speaker 1: just assume they'll get that guy after they get him
Speaker 1: now or later. And why wait, you get them as
Speaker 1: closer you get to the draft. As closer you get
Speaker 1: the training camp, guy's price go now, because now guys
Speaker 1: want to get on teams and they'll take that one
Speaker 1: year deal. I'll take that one year deal. I'll take
Speaker 1: it for a league minimum. I'll take it for you know,
Speaker 1: a smaller base with a lot of incentives and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you want to kind of
Speaker 1: keep your market as high as you possibly can earlier
Speaker 1: in this process. But then as it dundles down, it
Speaker 1: gets closer and closer and closer to the season. And
Speaker 1: the thing about veterans. The thing about veterans, the difference
Speaker 1: is then certain players, once you get to a certain
Speaker 1: level of years in the league, if you're on that
Speaker 1: roster week one, no matter what happens after that, you
Speaker 1: get that money. So if you if you're on if
Speaker 1: you're a four year, if you're on your fourth year,
Speaker 1: you're a four year guy once you sign, if you're
Speaker 1: on that team active roster week one, that's why you'll
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys get cut and get signed
Speaker 1: week two, because if you're in that active roster week one,
Speaker 1: whatever that base salary is for you that year is guaranteed.
Speaker 1: The positive then obviously is the money saved, but isn't
Speaker 1: the negative? Then you're going into the draft with more
Speaker 1: questions normally. Have you know what I mean? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: what do you think the Cowboys need? See? We know
Speaker 1: we need they need a offensive linement. We know they
Speaker 1: need a wide receiver. I don't need a because A
Speaker 1: means one. They need to h to what offensive linement?
Speaker 1: At least they need a offensive linement and they need
Speaker 1: defensive to sign defensive free agent officive alignment. That's so
Speaker 1: no you hey, you're talking about draft a right, Okay, okay?
Speaker 1: So you need a wide receiver? A repeat, we need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver because as much as I love Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lambing and the explosive things that he can do, is
Speaker 1: he gonna be that complete route runner that can get
Speaker 1: you seven or those routes perfect? So that so that
Speaker 1: when when when our quarterback need that guy, is he
Speaker 1: that guy? Because I don't care what about Gallup is
Speaker 1: not gonna be Gallop for for for for a minute,
Speaker 1: not coming off the injury that he's coming off of.
Speaker 1: Who is the third wide receiver? I think that I
Speaker 1: think that's what the count that there was James Washington
Speaker 1: that guy. But he's never been that guy. He's never
Speaker 1: been that guy in the system stopped him. He was
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh, right, Pittsburgh used to be it still is
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You they developed, guys. What has stopped him
Speaker 1: from being that guy in Pittsburgh? Talent? You just don't
Speaker 1: have the talent to be the game even tell you
Speaker 1: opportunity maybe, But man, I'm gonna tell you something. We
Speaker 1: I know the coach, we know the organization. Now you
Speaker 1: get every come on, man, that's one that's one team.
Speaker 1: If they draft you, they're gonna give you every opportunity.
Speaker 1: Did they draft him they get Yeah, you mean no
Speaker 1: opportunity in the sixty he's been in five years, four years,
Speaker 1: five years. I'm just saying what he We don't need.
Speaker 1: We don't need volume, guys. And that's the problem with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now. They've run volume plays, but their percentages
Speaker 1: of success is not high in those volume They run
Speaker 1: seventy six, seventy sixty, sixty eight, seventy three plays, twenty
Speaker 1: five of them is weak. So gotta get better, all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta get better. We gotta get off. Well, did
Speaker 1: you want to know who we've Yes, sir, who have
Speaker 1: we gained? And who have we lost game? James Washington,
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Well you heard what Jesse's you said? Ryan
Speaker 1: nas Like, who is that? He's a fullback. It's a fullback. Gun.
Speaker 1: We've played that game every year and then the fullback
Speaker 1: never make it to the season. Friends, we've lost. Um.
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory not good. Keana Neil not good. Lea Turner
Speaker 1: not good. Connor Williams, No, it's okay. Cedric Wilson not good?
Speaker 1: What's wrong? Well? You saw just no. The reason let
Speaker 1: me say this right here, let me sit No. The
Speaker 1: reason I say not good, not good for Connor because
Speaker 1: we did not help this kid be as good as
Speaker 1: he could be. We did not help this kid, you know.
Speaker 1: We we let him just get bulldozed by running eight
Speaker 1: hundred passing plays. Nah, not good, Connor. Glad you got
Speaker 1: out of here. M Yeah, all right. We need UH
Speaker 1: two and UH to wide receivers. So that's Nate Wish
Speaker 1: saying again to offensive and H to wide Receivers's not
Speaker 1: even counting defensive line. No, no, no, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: muss with the defensive mind until we get the training count.
Speaker 1: But the offense and wide receiver we need a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Y'all y'all laughing at me, Okay, and then then okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen with Kelvin. You're gonna keep him. You
Speaker 1: gonna cut them in the corner. We'll find the corner.
Speaker 1: We'll find the corner. We can't cover every basis. This
Speaker 1: is why you gotta be able to keep some guys
Speaker 1: around so you don't have to be able to have
Speaker 1: to go into the drive and free agency needing a
Speaker 1: plutthor positions field. If you had to pick Kurt, where
Speaker 1: would you go for? Offensive line? Offensive lineman? Round two
Speaker 1: through six? Still two through five? I don't want the
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Waste of time down two through five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got four peaks in four. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are you going for at this date? I know
Speaker 1: you can change and that's u A h h h
Speaker 1: hey for real, Not in the first round, not me?
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman? Brother, second round? Nope, how about you going
Speaker 1: for you? Uh help anybody? Literally, league, I mean, only
Speaker 1: only place I probably wouldn't spend the first round pick.
Speaker 1: Look at this right here, maybe linebacker, pop it up?
Speaker 1: Pop it up? This as much y'all need to go
Speaker 1: to Yeah, plug the magazine real quick. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys Star magazine. Guys, Yeah, scouting reports. Need
Speaker 1: to down Dallas Cowboys dot com slash star for info.
Speaker 1: There you go. Chris sent me a tweet. Don't get
Speaker 1: a book a book. Get a book a book, but
Speaker 1: two copies book. Get to hook fightings, baby, I need
Speaker 1: to get down. Chris sent me a tweet. Oscar Dale
Speaker 1: Lajoya tweeted out, imagine if Al Hammond lets Errol Spence
Speaker 1: Junior fight Virgil Ortiz and I staged at Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: Stadium or Vegas at Allegiant Stadium and Errol Spence quote
Speaker 1: tweeted said, imagine if I said no, I only have
Speaker 1: interest in one and he's not with you. So Jesse,
Speaker 1: you went to the fight, you big fight guy. You
Speaker 1: know Jeff good seat. Okay, So let me say this.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that if he does get a
Speaker 1: fight with with Golden Boy production, I got to hook
Speaker 1: up at Golden Wall, I would have like ring side seats,
Speaker 1: so I would be sitting up there with you know,
Speaker 1: with the big dogs. You want ringside Saturday night. No,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Like ringside is not really good seats.
Speaker 1: Like when you think about like people want, people would
Speaker 1: like to say that ringside because of the festivities in
Speaker 1: the publicity, and it's fun. It's fun because you sell.
Speaker 1: That's those aren't great seats. It's like front row at
Speaker 1: a football game. It's not the best vantage point. It's
Speaker 1: not really And so being that I know up five
Speaker 1: rolls up, what's the best in the box? You got?
Speaker 1: You gotta be above the ring. So knowing so knowing
Speaker 1: that I knew where to like knowing this stadium, I
Speaker 1: know where to sit. So you sit at the one
Speaker 1: hundred level center center field, center field and look right
Speaker 1: like you like you literally look into the into that.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was sitting in section like one, one, nine,
Speaker 1: one eleven something like that. So it's like fifty yard
Speaker 1: line looking at the ring at a level where I'm
Speaker 1: not having to fight with people like looking up at
Speaker 1: the ring, you know, or like I'm right up on
Speaker 1: you really can't see, yeah, but got people passing by you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a little further away because it's the way the
Speaker 1: stadium is set up. They have those floor seats there.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a great seats. You sit right there.
Speaker 1: The ring is here, and then the video boards there
Speaker 1: if you ever need which it's hard to not watch
Speaker 1: that video board. No, but it was. It was great
Speaker 1: and I got a lesson. I got a lesson in
Speaker 1: Dallas culture at the game. I had no clue. So
Speaker 1: as Aero Spence is coming out hometown kid. Uh, most
Speaker 1: time people come out, they have, you know, music coming out. Well,
Speaker 1: he had a He had a rapper bring him out
Speaker 1: named Big Tuck and the song was called south Side
Speaker 1: south Side the Realists. I didn't know who this guy was,
Speaker 1: never heard this song before, but when this music started,
Speaker 1: I thought the roof was really you come off this place.
Speaker 1: Everybody that was from Dallas, the DFW area. I mean
Speaker 1: they did, man, Chris, you got it. How did it
Speaker 1: go play? I don't right, yeah, I don't thay that.
Speaker 1: I don't even kind of the word. It just starts
Speaker 1: out with like saying like the south side of the Realist.
Speaker 1: Like then the next the next line of the song
Speaker 1: drug dealer killers. Okay, we can keep that gangster. So
Speaker 1: I tweeted, I was like I was last night, years
Speaker 1: old when I found out who Big Tuck was and
Speaker 1: boarded my mention and I said, full disposure. I'm not
Speaker 1: from Texas going to range in New Jersey, like, but
Speaker 1: I said, even it was the lady that was sitting
Speaker 1: like kind of caddy corner in front of me. She
Speaker 1: was older than me, and she got up and was
Speaker 1: like south side of the rill. I was like, and everybody,
Speaker 1: let me know, like that is a staple that that
Speaker 1: whole crew, big Tuck and he had a record label.
Speaker 1: It was like the first kind of he was like
Speaker 1: really one of the first Dallas rappers organizations that kind
Speaker 1: of really put Dallas on the map back in the
Speaker 1: early late nineties early two thousands. But boys, did I
Speaker 1: get a I get a lesson in culture and music
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Dallas sights over that. But the fight
Speaker 1: was amazing. A little one of the forty thousand people,
Speaker 1: Aaron went to work, He went to work and he
Speaker 1: I mean he outside of the one slip up that
Speaker 1: he had. And so as he was fighting, his mouthpiece
Speaker 1: came out and he said he thought he heard the
Speaker 1: ref say stop let his guard. Dad. He let his
Speaker 1: guard down, and he broke the cardinal rules you here
Speaker 1: at every single fight, protect yourself at all times. He
Speaker 1: thought he heard the ref say stop, he stopped dropped
Speaker 1: his guard. Ugas didn't stop popping twice boo boop. But
Speaker 1: that was kind of the death blow for Hugs because
Speaker 1: I think that pissed him off. I think that pissed
Speaker 1: him off. And then for the next he was already
Speaker 1: beating him up at that point. That really pissed him off.
Speaker 1: And like for like the next two or three rounds,
Speaker 1: he just he just beat up on him to where
Speaker 1: his eye they had stopped the fight. Later on he
Speaker 1: found out that he broke his orbit the boat, So like,
Speaker 1: I'm assume that's the eye socket part he broke that
Speaker 1: his eye was closed and the rest of him after that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was It was ahead of these dudes man to
Speaker 1: do that. They really wanted him to fight. Is doing
Speaker 1: the same thing. Sharon's Crawford. Yeah, he should arrest of
Speaker 1: the guys they're beating up on the mane. That'll be
Speaker 1: a huge fight. But that's the biggest part about We're
Speaker 1: not a boxing show. But that's the biggest part about
Speaker 1: boxing is that they're under these managements Bob Aaron oscar
Speaker 1: Deal La Joya, Big Weather Promotions. That's why everybody got
Speaker 1: pissed off and stopped watching boxing, right, it doesn't unified.
Speaker 1: And this is how, this is how your boy, the
Speaker 1: Paul Brothers have come in and been able to steal
Speaker 1: I'm meaning millions of dollars because while they're not giving
Speaker 1: you the fight that you want, they're giving at entertainment.
Speaker 1: So people been wanting this Aerospins to a Buck Crawford
Speaker 1: fight for for years, but because of the management that
Speaker 1: they're under, it'll never happen. They keep fighting these cans,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're making money and they're winning and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But like the boxing worlds,
Speaker 1: like you know what, say, y'all don't want to fight,
Speaker 1: We'll go watch something else. We'll go watch UFC has
Speaker 1: helped the USC rise. We'll go watch other sports, and
Speaker 1: we'll go watch the Paul brothers, not Nate, Nate Robinson
Speaker 1: out and stuff like that. I even heard that the
Speaker 1: Paul brothers offered they got told no, but then offered
Speaker 1: again Mike Tyson thirty million dollars to fight. That tells
Speaker 1: you the kind of money that they're bringing in. If
Speaker 1: you can pay Mike Tyson thirty million dollars to come
Speaker 1: in and fight an exhibition. Yeah, the days of the
Speaker 1: super Fighter gone gone sad. You know when you was
Speaker 1: coming up, guy, you know you had you had, you
Speaker 1: had haggling and Hearns and all that. It was you
Speaker 1: know home and now Jerry Cooney and and uh Robert Man.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta just you gotta watch the superstars beat
Speaker 1: up on guys like chumps, chumps that could whoop anybody
Speaker 1: nine the general. So like I was having this combination
Speaker 1: and know we gotta go. But like when you talk
Speaker 1: about the level of greatness, you talk about a guy
Speaker 1: like Floyd Mayweather, right, and you watch a Floyd Mayweather
Speaker 1: fight and how he takes someone who is a professional,
Speaker 1: This is what this person has done his entire life,
Speaker 1: and it's the best at it and make him look pedestrians.
Speaker 1: You know how, you know how great that you have
Speaker 1: to be to do that, to take another professional and
Speaker 1: make him look like something that you would not. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm just at Floyd, is this dude, is
Speaker 1: I mean bringing the heat and Floyd just let him
Speaker 1: just how you be so quick that put your head
Speaker 1: up later right here it is, yeah, I'm like, and
Speaker 1: he made it look so simple. I stopped watching. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what made it looked too easy. Yeah all right, Kurt,
Speaker 1: good seeing you man. Good at the band back together, Jesse,
Speaker 1: good seeing you man. What did I say A offensive
Speaker 1: lineman too? I said a uh say hey, uh uh?
Speaker 1: Let you you let your west Us out? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wasn't that deep. I wasn't that country. Thanks for bringing it, Nate,
Speaker 1: it's good having you back. Thanks for keeping live streams up.
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