WEBVTT - Van Halen Pt. 2: Pulling a Gun on Fred Durst, Racing Ferraris and Lambos, and Rock ‘n’ Roll’s Most Faithful Servant

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>story about a modern day warrior, a man with a code,

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<v Speaker 1>a man out of time, a musician with a take

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<v Speaker 1>no shit violent streak, a beretta to the head of

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<v Speaker 1>Limp Biscuits, Fred Durst, a military assault vehicle tearing ass

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<v Speaker 1>through the tony streets of Beverly Hills. It's about an Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>a Michael, a Sammy, even a Dave. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's about an Eddie. This is a story about Van

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<v Speaker 1>Halen and one of the four guitarists who belongs on

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<v Speaker 1>the Mount Rushmore of guitar playing. It's about a band

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<v Speaker 1>who made great music. Unlike that music I played for

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<v Speaker 1>you at the top of the show. That wasn't great music.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a preset loop from my melotron called let

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<v Speaker 1>me get some of that Podcake MK one. I played

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<v Speaker 1>you that loop because I can't afford the rights to

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<v Speaker 1>these dreams by Heart, And why would I play you

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<v Speaker 1>that specific slice of authentic sibling cheese? Could I afford it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was the number one song in America on

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty fourth, nineteen eighty six, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>day the Van Halen released their seventh studio album, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty, their first with new lead singer Sammy Hagar,

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<v Speaker 1>an album that allowed the band to reach new commercial heights,

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<v Speaker 1>while unresolved problems continued to bubble unseen beneath the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode Anthemic Sibling Cheese a military assault vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>a baretta, a code and Van Halen, I'm Jake Brennan,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is dis Graceland. Eddie Van Halen jammed his

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<v Speaker 1>combat boot down on the gas pedal. The assault vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>he recently bought at auction roared to life, tearing ass

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<v Speaker 1>down the quiet streets of upscale Beverly Hills. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no weapon in the machine gun mouth, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the vehicle anymore street legal. This decommissioned slab of

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<v Speaker 1>government steel was very much illegal, but Eddie didn't care,

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<v Speaker 1>just like he didn't care about the gun he was holding.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on a mission, and to carry out that

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<v Speaker 1>mission he required a certain level of comfort. Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>made him uncomfortable, and that's not because he wasn't welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two thousand and one, after all, and Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Van Halen, the guitar player of his generation, the one

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<v Speaker 1>in the same who just decades earlier, had reinvented the

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<v Speaker 1>instrument and in many ways revitalized a genre, was very

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<v Speaker 1>rich and very famous. It was the pretension that bugged him, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the vulgar display of one's wealth, status, and power. Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play that game. He wasn't a star. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>a regular guy, a kid stuck in a grown man's

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<v Speaker 1>body who liked to play guitar. But if you went

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<v Speaker 1>and did something dumb like keep one of his guitars

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<v Speaker 1>locked up in your fancy mansion and then did something

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<v Speaker 1>equally dumb like not answer his phone calls to arrange

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<v Speaker 1>a time for him to come pick up that guitar

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal person, that kind of Beverly Hills bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>lit a fire under Eddie van Halen's regular ass. So

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie van Halen tore ass in his military assault vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>through the nine two to one on a zip code

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<v Speaker 1>with no shirt on. His tattered pants were being held

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<v Speaker 1>up by a piece of rope while he drove, and

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<v Speaker 1>the boots on his feet, the ones that were managing

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<v Speaker 1>the gas pedal on the break at the moment, those

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<v Speaker 1>were wrapped up in duct tape. And his long hair

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<v Speaker 1>was up in a bun as a samurai in feudal

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<v Speaker 1>Japan centuries ago would have worn it. And just like

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<v Speaker 1>the samurais of old, Eddie van Halen sought enlightenment, believed

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<v Speaker 1>in salvation, and lived by a code. Enlightenment came through

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<v Speaker 1>his music, Salvation came from within, and his code was

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<v Speaker 1>governed by three points honor, discipline, and morality. This was

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<v Speaker 1>how he lived his life, or how he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>at least. And God rewards those who seek him and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Eddie van Halen was a seeker, a searcher,

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<v Speaker 1>just like that other iconic American, John Wayne, a man

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<v Speaker 1>who made westerns about anti hero cowboys that often borrowed

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<v Speaker 1>from Japanese samurai films, the same ones who wore their

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<v Speaker 1>hair like Eddie was now wearing his samurais Cowboys, John Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie van Halen. It was all connected. And now, at

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<v Speaker 1>forty six years old, with the days of routinely putting

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<v Speaker 1>up hits on the billboard charts seemingly behind him, Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>van Halen's purpose was more elusive than ever. In a

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<v Speaker 1>shifting landscape of grunge new metal in Britney, Spears Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>sow more than just his signature tone. He was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for yet another new singer for the band that bore

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<v Speaker 1>his name van Halen, a band which had famously or

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<v Speaker 1>infamously burned through three vocalists over the course of its

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<v Speaker 1>story career. Now gets all that in a minute. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking for meeting too, after recently separating from

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<v Speaker 1>his wife of two decades, Valerie Burton Nellie, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was looking for a cure for the cancer that was

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<v Speaker 1>growing in his tongue. But at this very moment, what

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie van Halen was really looking for was his guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew just where it was held captive inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Beverly Hills home of one Fred Durst, that backwards

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<v Speaker 1>red hat enthusiast and lead vocalist of Limp Biscuit, the

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<v Speaker 1>band which just two years earlier had incited a riot

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<v Speaker 1>at Woodstock ninety nine with their macho fucko anthem break stuff. Today, however,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Eddie who was doing the inciting. He drove

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<v Speaker 1>his self vehicle onto Fred's well manicured front lawn put

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<v Speaker 1>it in Parker. However, you get those things to stop

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<v Speaker 1>and let it idle nice and loud, He jumped from

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's seat, pulled the gun from his waistband and

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<v Speaker 1>made a bee line for the front door of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>He knocked. Red Hat answered, Eddie wasted no time. He

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<v Speaker 1>put his gun to that stupid fucking lid sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>top of Fred Durst's stupid fucking face, and said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where's my shit? Motherfucker. Twenty four hours earlier, the vibe

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<v Speaker 1>was way different. Eddie was hanging out with Fred, the

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<v Speaker 1>man he'd only just met, and he was hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with him inside of Fred's house, jamming with Limpiscus minus

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<v Speaker 1>guitarist Wes Borland, who had recently left the group. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know anything about Eddie van Halen and about

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<v Speaker 1>limp Biscuit, you're probably thinking what the fuck? And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even Fred Durst himself, when a mutual friend suggested he

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<v Speaker 1>audition Eddie for lymp Biscuit's new lead guitarist, said, and

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<v Speaker 1>I quote that would be hilarious. The greatest guitar player

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<v Speaker 1>ever jams with the worst band ever. Again, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Durst quote, But also consider this, Eddie van Halen

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't actually bought a new record since Peter Gabriel's album

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<v Speaker 1>so which came out in nineteen eighty six. That's fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years before this scene that I'm describing to you took place.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's entirely plausible that eddievan Halen had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what he was getting into when he agreed to jam

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<v Speaker 1>with lymp Biscuit. Maybe in this vulnerable moment of searching

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<v Speaker 1>for something new, maybe Eddie was just open to an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>any opportunity, just like he and Van Halen were once

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<v Speaker 1>upon a time open to crazy opportunities as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>jamming with Joe Caer or Ozzy Osbourne and even Daryl

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<v Speaker 1>Hall to fill their lead singer's empty shoes. No shit,

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<v Speaker 1>look it up, but the insane pipe dream of Limp

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<v Speaker 1>Biscuit with Eddie Van Halen on lead guitar was not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be. Eddie knew it as soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>walked inside was hit by a cloud of marijuana smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie didn't do weed, but when it came to Eddie's

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<v Speaker 1>stimulant and depressant of choice, that'd be cocaine and alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were tools to help him work, he thought,

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<v Speaker 1>not something he used to unwind and party with the guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie told Fred thanks, but no thanks. He bounced fast,

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<v Speaker 1>said he'd be back for his guitar and gear the

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<v Speaker 1>next day. That next morning, he called Fred to schedule

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<v Speaker 1>a time to go pick up his stuff, but Fred

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<v Speaker 1>never answered, and Fred never called him back. Fred Durst

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<v Speaker 1>gave Eddie van Halen the brush off, And now Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Durst was regretting that decision, that in action, that lack

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<v Speaker 1>of respect, or so Eddie van Halen would like to think,

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest guitar player ever was standing on the lawn

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<v Speaker 1>of the front man the worst band ever, still aiming

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<v Speaker 1>his gun at that stupid fucking hat while some clowns

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<v Speaker 1>on Fred's payroll load a gear into Eddie's assault vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was such a bad idea that Eddie thought

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<v Speaker 1>to himself there was only one musician he was compatible with,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean compatible in the eternal mind mild kind

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<v Speaker 1>of way, and that was his big brother, Alex van

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<v Speaker 1>Halen's drummer. No other musical relationship ever lasted, not with

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<v Speaker 1>David Lee Roth, van Halden's original lead singer, who, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who you ask, either quit or was fired from

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<v Speaker 1>the band back in nineteen eighty five, and definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>with Gary Charon, the guy from Extreme whose tenure as

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<v Speaker 1>Van Halen's front man at the end of the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>was as short as one of the cigarettes that burned

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<v Speaker 1>down to the filter in the headstock of Eddie's guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was the one they called the red Rocker,

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Hagar. He eventually went the way of Diamond Dave

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<v Speaker 1>out on the skids after his initial winning dynamic with

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<v Speaker 1>the Van Halen Brothers turned sour, but not before he

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<v Speaker 1>helped take the band higher and higher. Straight up, they

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<v Speaker 1>climbed higher than they had ever gone before or since.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie wanted to go there again, not for the money

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<v Speaker 1>or the fame he had all that. He wanted relevance.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to matter again. What had it been six

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<v Speaker 1>years since Sammy left? Eddie wondered, if it was all

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<v Speaker 1>just water out of the bridge, if you could go

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<v Speaker 1>home again. And as he watched Fred Durrist's muscle load

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<v Speaker 1>his gear into his illegal assault vehicle, Eddie van Halen

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do two things pronto. Number one, get the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck out of Beverly Hills before he was handcuffed and

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<v Speaker 1>tossed into the back of a police cruiser. And number two,

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<v Speaker 1>wring up his old friend Sammy Hagar. Sixteen years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty five, Eddie van Halen was once again

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<v Speaker 1>behind the driver's seat. This time it wasn't an old

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<v Speaker 1>military vehicle, but instead his equally attention grabbing Lamborghini. He

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<v Speaker 1>pumped the clutch with his left foot down, shifted, and

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<v Speaker 1>then let the Lambeau hug the steep curve of ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the road straightened out. This was the part Eddie loved,

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<v Speaker 1>clutch stick gas. The Lambo swooned like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>busty co eds riding a rail at the show, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>Malibu in the dust and setting its sights in the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the hill and the next lane over, a jet

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<v Speaker 1>black Ferrari suddenly appeared. Keeping pace. Eddie looked over at

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Hagar, sitting behind the wheel of his five twelve BB.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie gave Sammy that world famous ear to ear granted,

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<v Speaker 1>the one typically reserved when he had a guitar in

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<v Speaker 1>his hands, and was blowing even his own mind. As

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<v Speaker 1>fast behind the wheel as he was on a fretboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost as happy. The two cars shot up the

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<v Speaker 1>open road together eighty ninety one hundred miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie clearly with a new lease on life, and Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>proving that the boast he'd made in his most recent

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<v Speaker 1>hit single was one hundred percent authentic. He could not

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<v Speaker 1>drive fifty five. Only now Sammy Hagar was no longer

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<v Speaker 1>going the road alone as a solo artist, but as

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<v Speaker 1>the new lead singer for one of the biggest bands

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, Van Halen. Sammy could hardly believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>For Eddie and Alex van Halen, it wasn't just believable

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<v Speaker 1>after all the circus cheeseball bullshit that they'd endured with

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<v Speaker 1>their original singer, David Lee Roth. It was absolutely necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to quote Alex. At the time, we had a toothache

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<v Speaker 1>for about eleven years, went to the dentist and had

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<v Speaker 1>it extracted. Now we have a crown with a gold

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<v Speaker 1>cap on him, and a gold cap crown is as

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<v Speaker 1>a gold cap crown does so. Sammy Hagar bought a

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<v Speaker 1>place near Eddie's second house in Malibu, and each afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>the two would raise their fancy cars to Eddie's other

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<v Speaker 1>house in studio in the San Fernando Valley, specifically Studio City.

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<v Speaker 1>Work on the band's seventh studio album there first with

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy on the mic, and then race each other home

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<v Speaker 1>after dark and after Eddie was good and shift faced.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes Sammy would take his Ejag or his Cobra. Today

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<v Speaker 1>it was a sleek midnight machine, as sleek as the

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<v Speaker 1>music he was now making with Eddie Alex and Michael Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>van Halen's long suffering bass player. And holy shit was

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<v Speaker 1>the music sleek and huge sounding. Van Halen two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero sounded just like that metallic sphere looked on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of their album fifty one to fifty, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to say, polished, glossy, and yes heavy. Fifty one to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty named after Eddie's home studio, which itself was named

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<v Speaker 1>after a section of the California Penal Code that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>for the detention of an adult suffering a mental health crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty one to fifty was not by Van Halen's longtime

0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.920
<v Speaker 1>collaborator Ted Templeton, but by foreigners Mick Jones, who you

0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.559
<v Speaker 1>should know is also the stepfather of Mark Ronson, But

0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that's beside the point. But back to the point. Mick

0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Jones gave that record that Van Halen was making a

0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.199
<v Speaker 1>modern sheen. When it hit shelves on March twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six, supported by Monster singles like why Can't

0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.840
<v Speaker 1>This Be Love and Dreams fifty one fifty went gangbusters

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid eighties, Van Halen mattered. The og metal Heads,

0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.640
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, begged to disagree. Van Halen could

0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.440
<v Speaker 1>never be Van Halen without their beloved David le Ros

0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.480
<v Speaker 1>call it a vocal minority because all that bitching and

0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.880
<v Speaker 1>morning was taking place as fifty one to fifty race

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the top and look, man, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, you have got to give it up

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<v Speaker 1>for Sammy Hagar. Maybe you like the Day Years better.

0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Hell I like the Day Years better. But maybe you

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.760
<v Speaker 1>go even further. Maybe you think they were more pure,

0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.080
<v Speaker 1>or they had less power ballads and fewer keyboards, or

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe you condescend. He referred to Sammy's tenure as Van

0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Hagar or whatever. But it doesn't matter. Sooner or later

0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna come around to the Sammy Hagar version of

0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Van Halen. Okay, it also doesn't matter that Sammy Hagar

0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.960
<v Speaker 1>came from a press shirt kind of world, and Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>and Alex were the equivalent of a beer soaked stale

0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.160
<v Speaker 1>beer smelling dorm room. You know best at both worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>But here are the facts. Van Halen with Sammy Hagar

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<v Speaker 1>went to number one on the Billboard album chart, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just in nineteen eighty six, but four times in

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<v Speaker 1>a row over the next nine years, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>feat that the band was never able to pull off

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<v Speaker 1>with David Lee Ross. I love David Lee Ross, now

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<v Speaker 1>this is no doubt. Dave was flashy as shit. He

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<v Speaker 1>got your attention with those midair splits off the drum riser.

0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.280
<v Speaker 1>He was goofy and schlocky showbiz to his core in

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<v Speaker 1>the best kind of way, and he delighted in being

0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Van Halen's mouthpiece. But David Lee Roth ran that mouth

0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like a cocky sixteen year old, just as Eddie here

0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was running his lambeau. Not that Eddie wasn't still a

0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.760
<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old himself, because in many ways he most

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<v Speaker 1>serve was. But unlike Dave, Eddie was a musical genius,

0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.760
<v Speaker 1>faithfully serving his master like a samurai old. The thing

0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:13.120
<v Speaker 1>was for Eddie, his master was his music, and music,

0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to quote Eddie van Halen overpowers bullshit. That was the

0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>answer Eddie gave after he was asked if He felt

0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>vindicated when fifty one point fifty went to number one

0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.560
<v Speaker 1>following the messy split with David Lee Roth, Eddie was

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<v Speaker 1>in a great place. In Eddie's eyes. Sammy was not

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<v Speaker 1>a peacock like Dave, but a true musician, and since

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Sammy played guitar, Eddie could stretch out in concert and

0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>play keyboards, which Dave always gave him shit about. But

0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.680
<v Speaker 1>without Dave, the music continued to reward Eddie van Halen

0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's most humble servant. He didn't even need a samurai

0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.400
<v Speaker 1>bu in his hair at this point to be the

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<v Speaker 1>noble warrior that he was. But the music wasn't the

0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>only thing holding Van Halen the band together. Despite outward appearances,

0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this was still fragile unit of four men. Every day

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.000
<v Speaker 1>something threatened to destroy it. All the boozing, the drugging,

0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the non stop fucking it was taking place in puff

0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 1>tents beneath the stage. Yes, all four guys had their

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.639
<v Speaker 1>own tent in which they indulged in their wildest sexual fantasies,

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and those tents were set up beneath the stage at

0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>their concerts. Don't ask me how it just happened, so

0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that they could act upon those sexual fantasies while the

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<v Speaker 1>show went on.

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Eddie and l both addicts, were just as prodigious.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came to hand to hand sibling combat as

0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it did to musical telepathy. Sammy meanwhile, had girl problems.

0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.800
<v Speaker 1>All is sleeping around on the slide got him at

0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.240
<v Speaker 1>least one extortion attempt from a former playboy buddy he

0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>said she was carrying his child, all while his wife's

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.600
<v Speaker 1>panic attacks caused it to nearly jump from a plane.

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Bassist Michael Anthony meanwhile was once again getting the shaft

0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.720
<v Speaker 1>when it came to money, watching his share the music

0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.680
<v Speaker 1>publishing shrank down to a measly ten percent. These tensions

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.320
<v Speaker 1>were enough to break up any band, but add to

0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it Eddie and Alyx's increasing belief that Sammy wasn't working

0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>as hard as they were, a suspicion that they'd previously

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.960
<v Speaker 1>experienced with Dave. And it's crazy that things didn't fall

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.399
<v Speaker 1>apart sooner than they did. And the reason things didn't

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.159
<v Speaker 1>all fall apart wasn't because of the music. It was

0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:25.679
<v Speaker 1>because of Ed Leffler. Ed Leffler was more than just

0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.479
<v Speaker 1>a rock and roll manager. He was a father who

0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.479
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make all of his children happy when he

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<v Speaker 1>was brought on board along with Sammy. Leffler's first order

0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.760
<v Speaker 1>of business was to make sure that relations between the

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.040
<v Speaker 1>van Halen brothers and Sammy didn't go the way they

0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:44.000
<v Speaker 1>went with Dave. Ed Leffler ran interference. Ed Leffler maintained

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.159
<v Speaker 1>a proper balance of power. Ed Leffler would take a

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 1>bullet for his clients. In fact, he took a fist

0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to the face over and over and over, trapped inside

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.320
<v Speaker 1>an elevator at a show in Dallas, where an unknown

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 1>assailant beat the living piss out of him and put

0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>him in a hospital. The guys never had to worry

0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.399
<v Speaker 1>about ed Leffler's loyalty, but they did worry about his health.

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.359
<v Speaker 1>First there was that assault in Dallas, and soon after

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 1>there was his cancer diagnosis, and it looked bad. As

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.879
<v Speaker 1>bad as the scene, Eddie was now witnessing outside the

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 1>window of his studio City House every night, some crepe

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.120
<v Speaker 1>parking a van across the street, watching him, watching his wife, Valerie,

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.439
<v Speaker 1>and their newborn son, Wolfgang. No one ever got out

0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 1>of the van, It just sat there. And the cops

0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>could only do so much, and Eddie called them and

0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they came and made the van move, and the van left,

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and then the van came back. Eddie wasn't about to

0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.239
<v Speaker 1>sit idly by like an idiot, only to find out

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the hard way that the person inside was a demented psycho.

0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.760
<v Speaker 2>So just as it was.

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Once his job to protect his musical innovations, to protect

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.840
<v Speaker 1>his brand and his legacy from companies making money illegally

0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.480
<v Speaker 1>off of those innovations, it was now his job to

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>protect his young family, which is how in the early

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties, an anxious Eddie van Halen became the owner

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of a twenty five caliber Bretta.

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after this.

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 1>We're We're, We're. Dude, Eddie van Halen is a fucking legend.

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you see him play his guitar in that new

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>video with a power drill? And dude, dude, get this

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 1>van Halen's new record.

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 3>For a lawful carnal Knowledge, Dude, check it out for

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 3>unlawful carnal knowledge. F Uck fuck they named their new

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 3>record fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were high in high school in nineteen ninety one,

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you'll remember this sort of thing being said pretty much

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>verbatim by a kid in a jean jacket with a

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 1>peach fuzz Stash leaning up against the hood of his

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>car out in the parking lot next to yours, just

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>moments before he dipped into the pocket of his flannel

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>shirt to pull out a camel light to rip after

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.159
<v Speaker 1>just toking that joint. Maybe that kid was you, and

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>if so, I salute you. Who cared about led Zeppelin's

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Page playing his guitar with a violinbo anymore? Old

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.439
<v Speaker 1>fucking news Man Jimmy's little trick couldn't hold a candle

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to Eddie's makita as it revved up the strings of

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.399
<v Speaker 1>his brand new Ernie Ball music Man guitar in the

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>video for Poundcake, the lead single from Van Halen's ninth

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:38.120
<v Speaker 1>studio album, third with Sammy, titled for Unlawful Kernel Knowledge, which, yes,

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>was named that way on purpose for the juvenile acronym,

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>but calling the album for Unlawful Kernel Knowledge saved it

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>from being slapped with the dreaded parental advisory sticker that

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was cropping up on other notable albums released in nineteen

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>ninety one, such as The Red Hot Chili, Pepper's Blood Sugar, Sex,

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Magic Weens, The Pod, and The Guns N' Roses. Double

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>album Music Illusion one and two. And though Van Halen's

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>new album was hailed by many as a return to

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>form a capital R rock record, such praise by Van

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Halen's fan base couldn't save them from a two out

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of five stars review in Rolling Stone magazine. Only months later.

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>That same publication would give Nirvana's never Mind only one

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>star higher than that. So what the fuck did Rolling

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Stone know? Anyways? When Pepsi came calling, they use Right Now,

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the album's socially conscious third single for a commercial marketing

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.640
<v Speaker 1>their brand new crystal Pepsi Eddie. The band and their

0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.359
<v Speaker 1>manager Ed Leffler were making the kind of money Rolling

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Stone could only dream of. Ed Lefler, for one, used

0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>his steady hand to guide Van Halen through their most

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.679
<v Speaker 1>commercially viable years. He was a fixer at heart. The

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>only thing it seemed he couldn't fix was the cancer

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and his thyroid, and by nineteen ninety three, Ed Leffler

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 1>needed more than crystal pepsi money. He needed a miracle,

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.439
<v Speaker 1>So Sammy Hagar went looking for one. Sammy knew that

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>whether or not he ended up just another blip on

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the Van Halen radar, was in large park due to

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Leffler's influence. Sammy went above and beyond, and then he

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>went under the table that is below the border, all

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the way to Mexico, where samples of ed Leffler's urine

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>were sent. Neurotransmitters were extracted from that urine and then

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.400
<v Speaker 1>sent back in tiny vials. The idea was that you'd

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>shoot up those tiny miracle vials directly into your muscles

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and the healing would begin, which, according to Sammy, is

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 1>what Leffler did. Sammy even did it along with him whackado.

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but desperate times, you know. Ultimately, however,

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>neurotransmitter extracted urine was no match for the Big Sea.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fall of ninety three, ed Leffler was dead. Suddenly,

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the layer of protection that Leffler once provided, both internally

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>amongst band members and from the external forces beating down

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>on them was gone. The wheels slowly began to come off,

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>but not before Eddie van Halen's hair came off first.

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Eddie was sad about ed Leffler's death. He was pissed,

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and he was frustrated too. He was overwhelmed by everyone

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>who wanted a piece, and offended by the human behavior

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that his dead manager had so fiercely shielded him from.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>The wine bottle in his hand was just about empty,

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 1>and he brought it to his lips and put the

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>thing out of its misery. His own misery was just beginning.

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>He walked into the bathroom, grabbed an electric razor, and

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>shaved his head till every strand of his trademark long

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>hair was on the floor. He stared at himself and

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>tried to understand. He didn't know why he'd just done that,

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>but the more he looked at himself, the more he

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>saw his bald head as a clean slate, a fresh start.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>He quit drinking, just like his brother Alex had done

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>some years earlier, with the help of rehab. Eddie didn't

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>do it that way. He just put his mind to it.

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Some zenboos, this type stuff, salvation coming from within, and

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>all that being sober as a total mind fuck. He

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>had relied on alcohol for so long as part of

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>his playing, as part of his work of how he

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>served his Lord. The music booze lowered his inhibitions, which

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>in his mind allowed him to attempt things he never

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>would have attempted had he been straight. Now he no

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>longer felt comfortable in his own skin. In fact, he

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>was noticing just how much he hurt. His hips were

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>killing him and Van Halen called their nineteen ninety five

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>tour behind their tenth album Balance the Ambulance Tour, because

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Eddie was getting around with a cane and Alex was

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing a neck brace so that he could play through

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>three ruptured discs in his vertebrae. It was on this tour,

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>in April of nineteen ninety five that Eddie van Halen

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>found himself racing through the Burbank Airport to catch a

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>flight down to a show in San Diego. The carry

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on bag was gripped tight in his hand. He habbled

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>his way to security, those bad hips screaming at him,

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>just burning it. Wasn't accustomed to running from terminal to

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 1>terminal on his own like this. He was used to

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a charmed life of private jets, even if he claimed

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to reject all that rockstar bullshit that came along with it,

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that he was no rock star. He was just a

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>regular rold guitar player and this is just a regular

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>role commercial flight that he was about to board. So

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he handed that regular carry on bag to an airport's

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>security officer, and the officer on zipped it and looked inside.

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>His eyes went wide, like there's something very very wrong

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<v Speaker 1>here wide. He turned his gaze from the open bag

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>to Eddie and then back again, and this gave Eddie pause.

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Eddie began to freak. His stomach was in his throat,

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and the officer stuck his hand inside the bag and then,

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>very slowly, very carefully, he pulled out Eddie van Halen's

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>loaded BURRETTA. One week later, Eddie stood before Judge, rocking

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 1>that regular guy charm, explaining how the twenty five caliber

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>gun was something he'd initially bought for protection. You get

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<v Speaker 1>it right, judge, You've got a family right. A judge

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<v Speaker 1>has got to understand better than most that the world

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<v Speaker 1>is full of freaks and weirdos, all of them moving

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<v Speaker 1>in ways the rest of us can't comprehend. And when

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Eddie van Halen is moving, moving through space and time

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>from one town to the next on tour, he regularly

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>brings that same piece of protection with him. The beretta

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>is second nature, just like one of his guitars. The

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is, he normally travels on private flights where he

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<v Speaker 1>gets to make the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole thing is just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Simple, stupid mistake. Eddie copped the plea a thousand dollars fine,

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>one year probation, barely a crime. The bigger crime, in

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Eddie's eyes was whatever Sammy was trying to pull. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about that messed down in Mexico and

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Kabo Wabo, the club Sammy had built with the investment

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>help of his Van Hallen bandmates, the one that got

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>them a ton of MTV airtime but was starting to

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like an albatross around their necks. I'm talking about

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the Greatest Hits album Sammy was assembling in order to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for his divorce, a collection of solo greatest hits,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>which whatever you do, you Sammy, But he was tacking

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>on two brand new songs to squeeze Moss to narrow

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>from the record company, and not just any two songs,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>but two songs he had workshopped with Van Halen. The

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck was up with that, Sammy, Hagar, Eddie and Alex

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>were operating songs booze, But they were also operating without

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>the usual smoke screen of Ed Leffler. So instead of

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.719
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing being a simple means to an end,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a project which frankly the less ed he knew about

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the better instead all that it looked to Eddie and

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Alex like Sammy was about to big time them the

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>way they thought David Lee Roth once had Sammy prioritizing

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>his solo career and not giving his all to the band.

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>The band was the thing, The band was it, The

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>band was family. In the eyes of Eddie van Halen,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Hagar was clearly going against that family, against that code,

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the code of honor, discipline, the morality. And if a

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>man doesn't have a family, doesn't have a code, then

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what does he even have. In the eighteen seventies, the

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>modern era had arrived in Japan, and the samurai suddenly

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>found themselves obsolete. By eighteen seventy six, even carrying a

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>sword was illegal. Some of the country's most respected warriors

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>became beggars. Others assimilated into modern society and found callings

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>as merchants or farmers. Well over one hundred years later,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>across the Pacific, in California, the modern era found Van

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Halen trying to make sense of his place inside of it.

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>His Samurai von hairstyle echoed into the distant past as

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>he rode upon his faithful steed, an old military assault vehicle,

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>leaving Beverly Hills in the house of Fred Durst for

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>more regular guy pastures back in the valley, back to

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>where he belonged. Reunited with his gear, he then reunited

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the band with Sammy Hagar, which didn't last, just as

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the two reunions with David Lee Roth didn't last. The

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Van Halen timeline, perhaps more than that of any other

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>rock band in history, is full of this kind of

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>confounding musical chairs. Even Eddie's sun Wolfgame eventually replaced Michael

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Anthony on bass. Keeping it all straight is beside the point. Besides,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Eddie van Halen didn't do timelines. Maybe it was two

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, but to Eddie he was still nineteen

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight in his heart, in nineteen eighty six in

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>his mind. Who knows if the year twenty twenty actually

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>felt like twenty twenty. To Eddie Van Halen, he was

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, no longer wearing his hair like the samurai,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but his fate remained tied to those warriors of old.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Eddie's kind was now the antiquated one, the innovator, who

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>did what he had to because he had no other choice,

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>no means, only an unquenchable creative drive. Now in twenty twenty,

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing but choices, cheat guitars, kind of decent

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess available at the click of a button, free

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>apps on which you could record your own songs, the

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>world's music library from all of human existence on your phone.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>There was even a video game which you held a

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>piece of plastic in your hands and you were the

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>guitar hero. Eddie van Halen was a dying breed, and dying,

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, was part of the whole deal. You

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>live by your code, you serve your lord, which for

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Eddie was the music, even if it kills you. And

0:31:55.000 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>death was coming for him first to try to strike

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>him in his tongue, part of which was removed to

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>cut out the cancer. Eddie went into experimental mode. Just

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>like years ago. He experimented on the edge of his

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>bed with his Frankenstrat and a six pack of Schlitz Talls,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Only this time the experiments were medical. In a two

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six interview with Howard Stern, Eddie revealed that

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he'd secretly started a pathology lab in Long Island with

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 1>a doctor, then that through that lab he'd beaten his

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>tongue cancer, but that he couldn't reveal exactly how he'd

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>beat it because by doing so, he'd piss off Big

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Pharma and maybe go to jail. Which sounds crazy to

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>some of you, I know, But a few years later,

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Hagar and his memoir wrote that what Eddie had

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>done was to take a piece of his tongue, a

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>healthy piece, liquefy it, and then inject it back into

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>his body. If this sounds like the failed ed Leffler

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>fix all over again, you're not wrong. But did Eddie

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>van Halen's fix actually work? Eddie thought so, at least

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>for the moment, at least until the cancer came back

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>later strong, in this time fatal, despite the chemo he received,

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<v Speaker 1>and also despite the fact that he was using again

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not just alcohol but drugs. He was also convinced that

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the cancer came not from the enormous amount of cigarettes

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he smoked throughout his life, but from the metal guitar

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>picks he would hold in his mouth whenever he needed

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>both hands free to exhibit his two handed tapping technique.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Eddie van Halen thought he was superhuman,

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.479
<v Speaker 1>though to many of us he certainly seemed so. But

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>from a very young age he pursued alternative methods when

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it came to overcoming obstacles. A guy who has to

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<v Speaker 1>create his own guitar, create his own style is going

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to be the same guy who creates his own cure

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>when he's staring down a fatal disease. But Eddie van

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Halen was no doctor. He was a guitar player who

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<v Speaker 1>was incapable of any other profession, Just a regular guy

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stay in music's good graces. Tom Jake Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>in this is Disgraceland.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hope you dug this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>guitar players belong on the Mount rushmore of guitar playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Eddie van Halen, that's for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>All? Dudes? Are there? Any women? Does clap to make

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<v Speaker 1>the cut? All I know is Eddie is on it.

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