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Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 3: everybody's twelve ten pm, especially the afternoon here on the

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: We're going to break down these landmark election results. Ap

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Speaker 3: called the race around what like four in the morning

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Speaker 3: or so. Ron Ryan and I were together around like

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Speaker 3: two thirty in the morning, and that's when they called it.

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Speaker 3: But that was Fox News. I think the APM I'll

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Speaker 3: called it a little bit later than that. Just couldn't sleep,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a big day. So yeah, we've got

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Speaker 3: a lot going on here and we're going to talk.

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Speaker 3: We've got Logan by the way, House was put Logan

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Speaker 5: Shout out.

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Speaker 3: The audience loves logan. Loves the audience too, such.

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Speaker 6: An essential part of the coverage last night. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what we would have done

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Speaker 2: Let okay, we all knew Logan was great with the

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I really didn't like. You brought something

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Speaker 3: I'm extremely grateful Remultiple people to message me and say

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Speaker 3: about how our coverage was actually better, how we were

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Speaker 3: able to give people the data. No, but we were

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Speaker 3: contextualize everything. You know, it was crazy going to go

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Speaker 2: When I got back to the apartment and it was

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Speaker 2: after midnight, at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, and like it was as clear as it could be.

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Speaker 2: The writing on the like COMMA had lost and it

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Speaker 1: And MSMB still was still on there. The boats aren't

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Speaker 3: I got to say the screen Irrison for Cornick because

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was his decision. It was clearly

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Speaker 3: AP this was a big right wing thing last night,

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Speaker 3: like call the States, called the States, and like.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're kind of right.

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Speaker 6: But after though, after twenty twenty, but a lot of

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Speaker 6: people in the right were like, you called that's true.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree like the direction, but I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, if if you're being honest with your people,

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Speaker 3: what happened.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is the difference between like

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Speaker 2: just like, you know, actually telling.

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Speaker 3: You we're trying to be honest, just.

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Speaker 2: Trying to be honest and candid. And speaking of that,

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Speaker 2: there's a little bit of unfinished business.

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Speaker 3: Oh where is it? Get the screenshot.

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Speaker 6: It's ready, it's ready, it's ready.

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Speaker 3: This actually happened. It happened it's happening. Are you guys happy?

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Speaker 3: Are you happy?

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Speaker 5: Not? Good?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 1: I hate it's on the side of.

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Speaker 3: It's a message of a pan ethnic working class coalition.

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Speaker 3: That's what this is. My that's the story of this election,

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Speaker 3: my story of.

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Speaker 1: That unifying America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're doing your job. You're doing a better job

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Speaker 3: than Kamala Harris. You won't can see the election for

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Speaker 3: a while, so.

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Speaker 1: Like she's going to do it. Hillary's like the least

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Speaker 1: story lines right now.

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Speaker 3: And then she wink wink said it was putin And no,

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you, but I'm saying I thought

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Speaker 3: it was important that Hillary actually did do it in

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Speaker 3: them in the morning. Okay, if you're initially so the

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Speaker 3: country can just wake up. You can see the speeches.

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Speaker 2: I should have done it, and she does herself note favors,

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Speaker 2: but also not present company, excluded those on the right

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Speaker 2: who were perfectly fine with Donald Trump, just like actively

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Speaker 2: lying about the election results up to this day to

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Speaker 2: be like you should have done it at eight a m.

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Speaker 1: Instead of four pm.

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Speaker 8: Trump has still the army still not conceived.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're still waiting. A common waiting that Ryan and

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Speaker 3: I heard last night, is Trump is now the third

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Speaker 3: is now the first since FDR to three pete in there?

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Speaker 3: I got, honestly did I laughed? There was funny. All right, sorry,

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Speaker 3: you can take it off, right?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: I wait?

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Speaker 8: And so actually Trump is ineligible for this time because

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Speaker 8: he was really the pro That's right.

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Speaker 3: So that was so that's real live, that's good. That's

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Speaker 3: some good high I Q stop to Steel. You're right,

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Speaker 3: you were the past, right, you gotta go to the

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Speaker 3: superid court. Course you're like you have been, you have

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Speaker 3: been excluded. You have officially violate what is it the

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Speaker 3: twenty second Amendment? I think that's one of those. You

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Speaker 3: have violated the twenty second Amendment. And it's over all

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Speaker 3: this thing, and now Ja d Vans going to be

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Speaker 3: the president. What a horrible outcome. I mean, just gon

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Speaker 3: awful for this.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back, Let's get serious.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what do we got here for?

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Speaker 3: We're going to start with, well, we're going to do

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Speaker 3: the maps first to show everybody where everything's so logan.

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Speaker 2: Can you go through where we ended up in terms

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Speaker 2: of the electoral college and you know what the states

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Speaker 2: were still officially waiting on and all of that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the control room is doing the board.

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Speaker 3: So guys, can you put up the national election results?

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Speaker 3: There we go. So we got two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: six electoral College votes that have been called so far

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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump. It looks like he's what he's going

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Speaker 3: to end up with three twelve almost certainly. You've got

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Speaker 3: Michigan and Arizona, which are both going to eventually end

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Speaker 3: up in the Trump category. More importantly is actually the

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Speaker 3: national popular vote figure Donald Trump now officially what the

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Speaker 3: to win the national popular vote? And actually, one interesting

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Speaker 3: thing is it turnout is significantly down for both of

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Speaker 3: these figures. Right, So Harris comment in only it's sixty

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Speaker 3: six million votes or sixty seven million votes. Even Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump overlate's seventy one million. That's well below the margin

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Speaker 3: or the number that he got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is fact.

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Speaker 3: Take twenty twenty twenty was an anomaly. It's like, I'm

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Speaker 3: not disputing you go ahead, Logan, Yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's got to think about it.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 10: For most Americans, politics, or at least a sizable number

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Speaker 10: of them, politics is as important to them, right, it

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Speaker 10: might have a big implication in their lives, but they're

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Speaker 10: not thinking about it. And so when you have an

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Speaker 10: election where government is put front and center in their

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Speaker 10: with the economic challenges and COVID and the balance of

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Speaker 10: are way more engaged in that election than they've been

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Speaker 10: ever since or what they've been before and probably for

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Speaker 10: a long time coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of a unique moment in American history.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a lot of the Senate races are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they they're trending in that direction. So like

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Speaker 3: McCormick is almost certainly going to pull it out in PA.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you guys could put that up there,

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Speaker 3: You can see he's got a pretty good lead of

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Speaker 1: Two ninety two. I mean, I genuinely don't know what's left.

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Speaker 3: This is just the people I spoke to ear today,

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Speaker 3: they were like, we're absolutely confident about this. You know,

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Speaker 3: So nobody predicted that Jackie Rosen was going to come

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Speaker 2: I feel like Jackie Rosen might pull that off though,

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Speaker 3: Is the mail in votes just posted park to a lunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, they say they estimate there's still

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six thousand votes outstanding, and they're

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Speaker 10: I think so too, if it's the same vote patterns

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Speaker 10: on Casey. I mean, it looks like there's a disproportionate

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Speaker 10: you're following this electoral map to a degree, like you

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Speaker 4: So it's hard to know this with comp Well, I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: At these results that we have right for can you

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Speaker 2: guys click on Philadelphia again to show there they say

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Speaker 2: there's still one hundred and thirty seven thousand votes outstanding

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Speaker 1: So it does give me a s in Philadelphia by

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Speaker 1: he's winning by twenty points. Wait, now there we go

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Speaker 1: six fifty nine point.

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Speaker 8: Leave the mess, so that that picks him up another

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Speaker 8: what fifty thousand?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, down by he's down overall by about fifty thousand votes.

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Speaker 2: And so it's yeah, I mean alligating County, which is Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't call it McCormick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for sure, it makes sense to me why they have

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Speaker 2: those ones outstanding. It looks like right now and I

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Speaker 2: knows what's still out there. Slatkin is narrowly ahead in Michigan, and.

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Speaker 3: It does look like she might be able to pull it.

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Speaker 1: Bald narrowly ahead in Wiscon.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Logan, Yeah, we're mostly doing a lot of

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Speaker 2: Take a long time because they wait for mail in ballots.

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Speaker 4: Still pretty close.

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Speaker 10: In Washington District third, Marie Perez is up by four points.

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Speaker 1: Don't talk about keys anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yea, the keys are dead missing for so many of

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Speaker 3: So logan we wanted to throw to you while we

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could look at some of the swing counties.

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Speaker 3: I know that there's a what was it Northampton County?

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Speaker 3: It's they got their perfect record nineteen seventy two, I

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Speaker 4: I know, it's like one of there's only like four

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Speaker 3: The new work there you go, that's the new keys,

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Speaker 3: there's also Bucks County and PA, which I believe Donald

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Speaker 10: Ninety five percent reporting, So that might we'll see if

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's I mean, yeah, some of this. What

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Speaker 1: To point two points?

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Speaker 4: It just feels bigger.

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Speaker 10: Because Trump doesn't has done this before, but anyone a

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Speaker 10: you can't come back from. I mean, LBJ one in

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Speaker 4: And it's really hard to run as a VP. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was a very unique moment in history. Caucus. Well,

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Speaker 3: but it's still way too close. You know if you

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Speaker 10: Yeah, those stats get way better if you give al

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Speaker 4: It looks really dark. But yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: You clip is going to go down at history. Really

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Speaker 8: It was, and then she had several other opportunities. It

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Speaker 2: Nonsense, an obvious direction to go into with his word policy,

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Speaker 1: They don't have had a democratic process.

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Speaker 2: And in their terror and desire to quote unquote save democracy,

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Speaker 3: Oh there's no question. And I mean, Chrystal, do you

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Speaker 3: have to from this. The primary wasn't you know? Lack

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Speaker 2: A mini I think remember, I think what they will

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Speaker 8: Different type, just a different name, different name.

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Speaker 2: I I do think that they'll be like we just

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Speaker 1: So I think they'll just learn.

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Speaker 2: Lessons for themselves about the future candidate that they will

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Speaker 2: then want to hand pick and select, rather.

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Speaker 1: Than like, hey, maybe the voters have some say in this.

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Speaker 2: Crazy process, because that just feels too wild to leave

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Speaker 3: Right, What do you think, Ryan, how do you think

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Speaker 3: that the big takeaway will be from like the major

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Speaker 8: I don't know. It's going to be interesting to watch it.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen a single word yet from Pelosi from it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess. I mean, so that's part of

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Speaker 8: The first impulse is to blame the voters.

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Speaker 3: Yes, or is it to blame Russia? In all seriousness?

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Speaker 3: Is it to blame Russia?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't think they have that.

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Speaker 3: They don't have it in them anymore. They're demand they've

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Speaker 1: It's just hard. I know different.

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Speaker 1: But when the shift went against you with like every

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Speaker 3: That with Jews and with Muslims? How incredible is that?

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Speaker 2: Actually it looked at me like their numbers held up

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Speaker 1: But you know, which is also but anyway.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at this kind of across the

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Speaker 2: You don't have a gym, come me to blame this

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Speaker 1: You do have sexism. They'll they'll be a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: And I think that leads to just like she was

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Speaker 2: That's that's always the analysis, right, That's always what they

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Speaker 3: I could see that all right, Uh, well, how are

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Speaker 2: Great son of course with California, really interested to speak.

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Speaker 1: With him about you know, his analysis is.

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Speaker 2: One who has been pushing the Democratic Party at times

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Speaker 2: Apparently all right, well, I don't have enough.

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Speaker 3: I just Biden. So then why has I mean Biden

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Speaker 3: needs to do? Which was my personal favorite moment from

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, if you'll remember, Emily, when Obama was like

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Speaker 3: you just go off the phone, President Trump and Valerie

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Speaker 3: Jarrett is in the White House, Colonnade just weeping, socket docking,

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Speaker 3: all of the other Obama staffers just literally in tears

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Speaker 3: sitting behind President Obama. That's indelibly burned into my memory.

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Speaker 3: But actually we do have the We do have the Congressman,

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Speaker 3: so let's try and bring him in over here. Right, Hey, are.

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Speaker 5: You guys Crystal? Where's your maga?

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Speaker 3: Had already already?

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Speaker 5: Wait?

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Speaker 3: You want to see that?

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Speaker 5: You don't know?

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Speaker 3: If you want that, I'll send you one in the mail.

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Speaker 1: Here it is there, it is. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, Congressman, just the first question is what

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Speaker 2: do you think happened?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, it's going to take a long time, but

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Speaker 9: I think one clear message is we need a cleaning

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Speaker 9: of the house. I mean, the people are sick of

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Speaker 9: the establishment.

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Speaker 5: They're sick of the same old folks running the party.

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Speaker 9: The second thing is, I don't think we spoke to

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Speaker 9: people's economic grievances and anxieties them and we go speak

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Speaker 9: to blends and then people first have to hear them

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Speaker 9: they got shafted for fifty years, that corporations offshore jobs,

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Speaker 9: that the system isn't working for them.

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Speaker 5: And then we can go into both parties.

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Speaker 9: We're part of this problem, and here's why we have

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Speaker 9: a better vision than the other side.

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Speaker 5: And here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 9: Even though we had a lot of good economic policy.

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Speaker 9: I just don't think we got that emotional narrative of

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Speaker 9: meeting people where they are, and we've got to do

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Speaker 9: a better job. And then we can't be the party

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Speaker 9: of war. We got to, you know, be the party

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Speaker 9: that's opposed to these wars.

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Speaker 8: Are you hearing that from other colleagues? Do they understand

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Speaker 8: that the Democrats are becoming the party of war and

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Speaker 8: the party that doesn't take economic grievances?

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Speaker 4: Seriously?

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a long conversation.

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Speaker 9: You know, one consulted to text in me, which I

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Speaker 9: thought was actually emblematic of our problem, saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 9: what the Democrats really need to do is a run

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Speaker 9: of white male like Jimmy Carter Peanut former because we

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Speaker 9: obviously aren't connecting in rural America and that they're not.

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Speaker 9: They were just sexist and racist, and I was like,

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Speaker 9: this is exactly missing the point, Like, you can't blame

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Speaker 9: the American voters, like start by looking at yourself. These

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Speaker 9: are all people in areas that voted twice for Barack

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Speaker 9: Hussein Obama, So like, what has what has gone wrong?

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Speaker 5: Why are we not connecting? Why are we not listening?

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Speaker 5: Why are we not? Why do they feel a disconnect

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Speaker 5: from us?

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Speaker 9: And instead of pointing the blame and sort of stereotyping

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Speaker 9: these voters, how about we do some introspection at the

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Speaker 9: same time, I think this Republican celebration is a bit premature.

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Speaker 9: I mean, anytime you have one of these elections, people

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Speaker 9: say that there's a permanent realignment, and usually what happens

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Speaker 9: is the other side wins in the mid terms or

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Speaker 9: the subsequent election. Totally such discontent against the status quo.

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Speaker 9: So I also don't think we should be, you know,

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Speaker 9: overly despairing. We're going to come back in twenty six

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Speaker 9: and twenty eight and build a majority again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally understand that nobody's writing permanent obituaries here

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. I'm curious for your thoughts. We

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Speaker 3: were talking about a primary and some of the mistakes

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Speaker 3: that have been made here in the race. In retrospect,

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Speaker 3: you think it was a mistake not to have a primary,

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Speaker 3: both for Joe Biden and after Joe Biden dropped out

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Speaker 3: of the race.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a mistake retrospectation and made that

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Speaker 5: decision after the transition.

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Speaker 9: In an open process, it would have given people the

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Speaker 9: time to really get to know the candidate and given

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Speaker 9: the candidate an ability to bond with the American people.

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Speaker 9: And I you know, people say, well we didn't spend

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Speaker 9: enough time in rural America.

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Speaker 5: Well you had one.

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Speaker 9: Hundred days, right, Whereas if you are forced to spend

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Speaker 9: two years, then you go to a lot more places,

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Speaker 9: you buy, you know, you have a lot of spontaneous interactions. Well,

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Speaker 9: the open Convention, you know, I was agnostic on that.

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Speaker 9: I just don't think having a two week twent hales DNC,

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Speaker 9: which has still been picked by DNC delegates, which are

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Speaker 9: all Biden delegates, you know. I mean, I could have

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Speaker 9: be talked either way, but I don't think that was

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Speaker 9: the problem.

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Speaker 5: The problem was it was such an abridged one hundred

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Speaker 5: day spread.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And Congressman, in terms of where Democrats go from

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Speaker 6: here and what lessons maybe they take about things that

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Speaker 6: went wrong in the selection cycle, I want to get

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Speaker 6: your thoughts on some of these results that we're just

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Speaker 6: seeing in California with Prop thirty six, Prop thirty three

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Speaker 6: with George Gascone in La County. Is there any lesson

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Speaker 6: here seriously for Democrats about maybe some of these cultural issues.

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Speaker 6: It's it's sort of unfair to categorize them just as

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Speaker 6: cultural issues. They're very much kitchen table issues for people

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Speaker 6: in La County, for people throughout California. But what lesson

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Speaker 6: should Democrats take from that, if any, about maybe swinging

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Speaker 6: too far left on some of those issues over the

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Speaker 6: last several years.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a lesson of common sense and being reasonable.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you're being reasonable to make understand families want

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Speaker 9: to be kept safe and that if someone breaks into

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Speaker 9: a Walgreens that there has to be prosecution.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you throw them.

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Speaker 9: In jail for a long time, but there you can't

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Speaker 9: just be like, Okay, you could keep breaking in and

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Speaker 9: nothing happens to you. You know, I was staying alone

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Speaker 9: in the transition. I went a week ago on Megan

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Speaker 9: Kelly's show podcast because they said, come on and make

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Speaker 9: the case for the vice president, and Megan Kelly gave

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Speaker 9: me one minute to do that and then have a

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Speaker 9: conversation with Edition for thirty and I change my position.

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Speaker 9: I said, look, I believe that people who are trans

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Speaker 9: shouldn't be bullied, and should people.

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Speaker 5: And you know, at least up through.

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Speaker 9: A school they should have we should be inclusive, but

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Speaker 9: there are concerns on people's safety, and there's concerns about

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Speaker 9: fairness and competitiveness.

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Speaker 5: There have to be standards about that. And my point is,

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 9: There are ways to talk about these issues that don't

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Speaker 9: make us compromise our positions, but don't make us people think, well,

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Speaker 9: if they don't fully agree with where Democrats are, that

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Speaker 9: somehow they're bigoted or they're looked down upon. I think

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Speaker 9: we have to engage with a reasonable this a thoughtfulness

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Speaker 9: and convince people that that we're doing it in good faith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, congressmen, we really appreciate your time. We will

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Speaker 3: hope to see you again soon. I know. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a lot to say after this race.

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Speaker 5: So thank you, well, thank you. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 5: are going to have a lot to say. I'll tell

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Speaker 5: you they have on program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we agree, we agree with you, all right, make

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Speaker 3: it happened next time, maybe they'll actually listen to her.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, sir, appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk a little bit now about the

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Speaker 3: media reaction to Donald Trump's victory last night. There were

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Speaker 3: a couple of fun clips that were making the rounds.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to start first with Jake Tapper over

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Speaker 3: at CNN, who is genuinely like jaw drop stunned when

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Speaker 3: John King tells him that Kamala Harris did not perform

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Speaker 3: better in a single county in the entire United States.

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Speaker 3: Keep in mind this was at the time that they

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Speaker 3: were looking at the map, but nonetheless, definitely tells us

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Speaker 3: a little bit of the story of what happened last night.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that.

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Speaker 9: So you asked, are there any places that the vice

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Speaker 9: president is overperforming Joe Biden in twenty twenty, So we

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Speaker 9: can show you that as well.

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Speaker 11: We just bring that out here, Harris overperforming twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Holy smokes, there you go.

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Speaker 7: So let this go away and see if there's anything in.

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Speaker 5: The East Side.

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Speaker 8: There literally nothing, literally nothing, literally not one county.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty shy, like there's not a single locale, were.

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Speaker 3: You Yeah, so that is great. Yeah, so apparently there

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Speaker 3: are a few counties now that the ballots have been tallied.

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Speaker 3: That's what the community notes and all those stuff. But

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Speaker 3: the point stands. Nonetheless, I mean, one of the things

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Speaker 3: that we talked about in our after action segment was

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump literally improved a position in forty eight out

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Speaker 3: fifty states. Okay, that's freaking crazy. He won the popular vote,

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Speaker 3: he ran up the table in all of the and

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Speaker 3: not only in all the swing states, but increased his

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Speaker 3: margin in the deepest blue states. And like with all demographics, basically,

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Speaker 3: I believe whenever you look at the overall exit polls,

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Speaker 3: so all of that is quite shocking, and of course.

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Speaker 2: Is according to the one I saw. She improved with

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Speaker 2: advanced degree women.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, who a box? I cannot forget about

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Speaker 3: the piece.

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Speaker 6: How can you even improving with those numbers?

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Speaker 1: She went from ninety seven percent ninety You know that.

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Speaker 3: Plays lock the ultimate childless cath ladies, as all four

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Speaker 3: of the people here know for who they are, all right,

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Speaker 3: but that.

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Speaker 1: Identity politics, Oh well, give them Trump's victory.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm all in on advice about any politics.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, in terms of democracy and what that all

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Speaker 3: means and looks like for so, you could look at

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Speaker 3: a Trump popular vote victory as a victory for so

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Speaker 3: called small D democracy because its quite literally winning in

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Speaker 3: an election. Or you could say that the American people

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Speaker 3: have given up on democracy. That's what Jonathan K. Part

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Speaker 3: had to say over on PBOs News Hour, Let's take

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Speaker 3: a listen.

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Speaker 12: With a sense of humility, simply because you know, Poles

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Speaker 12: don't vote. People vote, and so in elections we finally

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Speaker 12: get to hear what the American people have to say.

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Speaker 12: And I've come to this election with an open mind,

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Speaker 12: and I want to know what the American people.

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Speaker 4: Have to say.

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Speaker 12: What was it six hours ago? I was mystified by

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Speaker 12: what was what was going on? And now I can't

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Speaker 12: help but think that if this selection seems to be

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Speaker 12: if it proves out that the millions of people who

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Speaker 12: are watching Fox News, if that ends up being being

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Speaker 12: the case, then I can't help but wonder if the

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Speaker 12: American people have given up on democracy simply because of

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Speaker 12: what he's told us, what he wants to do, simply

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Speaker 12: because of what the Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity.

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Speaker 12: I mean, he has said he will he wants to

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Speaker 12: go after his political enemies.

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Speaker 7: I am your retribution.

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Speaker 12: So if indeed what Fox is reporting, if that ends

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Speaker 12: up being true and ends up being the case, then

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Speaker 12: this conversation about who we are as a country, I

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Speaker 12: was gonna say it, will you know, pop off in earnest,

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Speaker 12: but I think we will have an answer.

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Speaker 2: You guys aren't gonna like my take. I actually think

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Speaker 2: that he's kind of correct.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's here's the thing. I mean.

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Speaker 2: I do think both on the right and the left,

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Speaker 2: there is some chunk that I have an authoritarian instinct.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that, you know, in terms of the Democratic

667
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Speaker 2: Party with them being like, yeah, it's fine, you don't

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Speaker 2: have to have a primary, like just tell us.

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Speaker 1: Who to pick, right, You see that.

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Speaker 2: You see that with the clamoring for censorship, which by

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Speaker 2: the way, is very clearly a bipartisan thing. And I

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Speaker 2: mean you also see it, and yeah, this guy genuinely

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Speaker 2: tried vociferously to overturn the election.

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Speaker 1: He still has not admitted that he lost.

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Speaker 2: And so it's not zooming out from our particular political time.

676
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Speaker 2: When you have times of turmoil, chaos, economic uncertainty, change,

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Speaker 2: you know, structural shifts in terms of like the national economy,

678
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Speaker 2: the global all of those things breed among some people

679
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Speaker 2: the sense of like I just want someone to come

680
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Speaker 2: in and fix it. Trump literally was like I'll be

681
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Speaker 2: dictator for a day, and you're like, we want you

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 6: But here's here's the Here's a significant point in Crystal's column. Here,

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Speaker 6: this is Will Chamberlain, who's been on the show debating.

685
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Speaker 6: He said, and he is very connected in Trump circles.

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Speaker 6: He said, quote there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 6: talk about Trump needing to quote extend the olive.

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Speaker 3: Branch all caps.

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Speaker 6: No, if he had lost, he would have been jailed

690
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Speaker 6: and for a support of Trump, Elon likely would have

691
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Speaker 6: been bankrupted and jailed. Those who launched the law fair

692
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Speaker 6: must be held accountable. He doesn't need to persecute random democrats.

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Speaker 6: He does need to ensure that his DOJ investigates Fonnie Willis,

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Speaker 6: Nathan Wayet, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James Jacksmith, and Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 8: Well, okay, Saric Garland.

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Speaker 1: Is saved by delaying exactly.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead investigating.

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Speaker 3: This is almost like an academic argument between like capital

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Speaker 3: d democracy and like Smaldy, like the guy won the election,

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Speaker 3: and not only do you win the election, won the

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Speaker 3: popular bark like that's it's game over in terms of

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Speaker 3: if that's what the voters want, then that literally is democratic.

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Speaker 3: Now you can have like so called like democratic authoritarianism

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Speaker 3: but even in this.

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Speaker 1: Place you having, like Hungary for example, kind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the thing is they like it. Like I've

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Speaker 3: been to Hungary, there's not opposition.

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Speaker 1: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: That's the point that he's making is that, yeah, they know,

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Speaker 2: like it's not like they don't know that he has

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Speaker 2: these like authoritarian tendencies and they like it and they're

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Speaker 2: voting for it.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: But that's I mean, that's kind of what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: is like.

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Speaker 2: That is they're democratically voting for authoritarianism.

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Speaker 3: They are democratically voting for a strong executive. I mean,

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Speaker 3: by the way, like the EPF, you go back and

719
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Speaker 3: you read I guess the book's not long behind me

720
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Speaker 3: about freedom from Fear. When FDR was elected, they actually

721
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Speaker 3: wanted him to be a genuine dictator. They were like,

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Speaker 3: let's burn the Senate down and get rid of this

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court bullshit, and let's just let the president

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Speaker 3: be a monarch. And most people were totally fine with that.

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Speaker 3: He was a good president, right, I mean, American people

726
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Speaker 3: wanted that. That's a big question. Why it comes down to,

727
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Speaker 3: like the academic like democratic checks and balances institutions versus

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Speaker 3: the you know, so called like strong executive. But to

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Speaker 3: say the American people have giving up on democracy, I

730
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Speaker 3: think it's just incorrect. What they have, what they have

731
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Speaker 3: given up on I think here, or I guess in

732
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Speaker 3: this case is like elite neoliberal rule, which is the

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Speaker 3: one you know, thorough thread throughout our entire conversation in

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Speaker 3: the last several hours, and so like how they decide

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Speaker 3: to rule with that, how they decided to go.

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Speaker 1: There is a genuine rise.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to make this a partisan point

738
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Speaker 2: because I don't think it's actually a partisan strictly partisan phenomenal,

739
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Speaker 2: although I do think that there's probably a higher degree

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Speaker 2: of like acceptance of.

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Speaker 1: Authoritarianism on the right.

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Speaker 2: But as I said, I think there is a sense that,

743
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Speaker 2: like this is too messy. I just need someone to

744
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Speaker 2: come in and make my life like simple and make

745
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Speaker 2: the decisions and be the daddy for the country. And

746
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Speaker 2: like that is a real phenomenon, and it is part

747
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Speaker 2: of the Trump phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

749
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Speaker 8: It's what do you think, It's been part of the

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Speaker 8: right for hundreds of years. That's like what the right has.

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Speaker 1: Been about, Like we can't let the we can't let

752
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Speaker 1: the rabble.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes the rabble who wanted the right in power? Yeah anyway, sure, yeah, absolutely,

754
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Speaker 3: saying you know Napoleon the third who was whatever. Let's

755
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Speaker 3: move on.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on, all right, like, maybe one more of

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Speaker 2: these because we got the mayor coming up here very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So which one is your which one is your favorite?

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Speaker 3: Between joy Read and the View.

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Speaker 8: There's also that Trump clip that I put in there

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Speaker 8: for the mayor.

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Speaker 3: No, that's for the mayor. Oh, we have time for

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Speaker 3: two clips. Okay, let's let's roll them back to back.

764
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Speaker 3: Let's get joy Read and then let's get the View,

765
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Speaker 3: and let's roll those back to back. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: joy Read.

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Speaker 13: I think it's important to say that, you know, anyone

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Speaker 13: who has experienced or been in the United States for

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Speaker 13: any period of time and experience.

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Speaker 1: This country's history and knows it.

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Speaker 13: Cannot have believed that it would be easy to elect

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Speaker 13: a woman president, let alone a woman of color.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be.

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Speaker 13: Clear, and nothing that was true yesterday about how flawlessly this.

775
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Speaker 3: Campaign was run is not true now.

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Speaker 13: I mean, this really was an historic, flawlessly run campaign.

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Speaker 13: She had Queen Latifa never endorses anyone She came out,

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Speaker 13: you know. I mean she had every prominent celebrity voice

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Speaker 13: she had. She had the Taylor Swifty to the Swifties.

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Speaker 3: She had the bee Hive. Like, you could not.

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Speaker 13: Have run a better campaign in that short period of time.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's still true.

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Speaker 14: I'm surprised at the results, but I'm not surprised. As

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Speaker 14: a woman of color. I was so hopeful that a

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Speaker 14: mixed race woman married to a Jewish guy could be

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Speaker 14: elected president of this country. And I think that it

787
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Speaker 14: had nothing to do with policy. I think this was

788
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Speaker 14: a referendum of cultural resentment in this country.

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Speaker 2: Well I thought Queen Lativa would have sailed to do Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right, lawless campaign. Right, It's just like it's beyond caricature,

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Speaker 2: the idea that like we're going to do everything we

792
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Speaker 2: can to learn nothing from this experience. And again like

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Speaker 2: of course blame the voters. And let's not to say, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I do think that there is a we've

795
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Speaker 2: never elected a woman. I think it is a challenge.

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Speaker 2: I think there are some like biases there that we

797
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Speaker 2: do have to grapple with as a country. But to

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Speaker 2: put it all on that is just to set yourself

799
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Speaker 2: up for another defeat, because you never learn the lessons

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Speaker 2: from the defeats that are mated out. It did remind

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Speaker 2: me also my Peers More Going to appearance. Had Franklins

802
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Speaker 2: come on for like an interstitial, Yeah, some good comments,

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Speaker 2: but he also made this comment about like she needed

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Speaker 2: to get Taylor Swift to come out and do concerts

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Speaker 2: with her across the Midwest.

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Speaker 5: It was like what it was?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that was the key, that was what she

808
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Speaker 2: was missing out on, and she didn't have enough celebrity

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Speaker 2: endorsers that was the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is so funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking about the I mean, look, I

812
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Speaker 3: think this is going to be the big media question,

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Speaker 3: you know, to what extent that they're going to run

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Speaker 3: with this. So I did for my own entertainment put

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Speaker 3: Morning Joe on the moment that I woke up, it

816
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Speaker 3: was like seven thirty or so, and it was wild

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Speaker 3: on there. I mean, Joe was losing it in terms

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Speaker 3: of he had a whole three minute long monologue which

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Speaker 3: I can't even play all of that.

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Speaker 2: I mean he should, but he should because his ideology, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is the neoliberal on the Republican side and now

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Speaker 2: on the Democratic side.

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Speaker 1: It was thoroughly.

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Speaker 3: It has been reputed, and you could see he was shook.

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Speaker 1: So he be shock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, you know, much more his ideology

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Speaker 2: than you know anyone at this table was really thoroughly rebuked.

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Speaker 1: And there's kind of no way around that. Now.

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Speaker 2: I know their cope is all the wokeism or whatever,

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Speaker 2: but I think they have to.

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Speaker 8: They're the ones that elevated the woke fact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: When he's like, I'm worried about cancel culture on college campuses,

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Speaker 3: Joe Scarborough, I'm like, bro, who were the people you

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Speaker 3: were elevating in twenty seventeen throughout? Like get out of here, man,

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Speaker 3: Like you know what was going on over there. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: the entire thing is is ridiculous. We wanted to give

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Speaker 3: you guys a flavor of the cope that is flying

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: We are very fortunate to be joined today by Mayor

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Speaker 2: of de Lahamoud, Mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, which of course

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Speaker 2: is a city that came in for a lot of

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Speaker 2: attention this presidential election cycle.

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Speaker 1: Great to see again, Mayor, Great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, so you decided ultimately though you're a

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Speaker 2: Democrat not to endorse in the race versus Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: versus Donald Trump. Why did you make that decision and

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Speaker 2: what do you make ultimately of the results in your city.

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Speaker 11: Ultimately, my decision not to endorse stemmed on an issue

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Speaker 11: of policy. We wanted a presidential candidate who would distance

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Speaker 11: themselves from Benjamin Eataniau and the ongoing genocide that's not

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Speaker 11: only now in Palestine but expanding in Lebanon. You know,

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Speaker 11: I'm of Lebanese origin and descent, so is my wife

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Speaker 11: of Lebanese and Palacinian descent. Today almost every resident I

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Speaker 11: know in this city has had a family member or

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Speaker 11: loved one killed, injured, or displaced. And so when you

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Speaker 11: see the election results, and I just put out my

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Speaker 11: message earlier, I think the first thing to note is

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Speaker 11: no votes are promised to any party or to any candidate.

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Speaker 7: Votes must be earned first and foremost.

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Speaker 11: Especially from a community that is suffering directly from a genocide.

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Speaker 11: And I think that was the message that was sent

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Speaker 11: loud and clear. The anti genocide candidates lost in the

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Speaker 11: city of Gearborn were excuse me, the pro genocide candidates

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Speaker 11: lost in the city of Dearborn, where those pro justice

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Speaker 11: anti war candidates were the one were successful in the

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Speaker 11: city deer Once. If you looked at Congressman to Leave,

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Speaker 11: she won. You look to a local state representatives they won.

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Speaker 11: You looked to our Supreme Court justices, the Democratic.

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Speaker 7: Candidates they won.

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Speaker 11: It was the US Senator who won by a very

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Speaker 11: slim margin, the Democratic senator and obviously Vice President Harris

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Speaker 11: who lost.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, I mean, start looking at the overall margin,

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Speaker 3: what is it. It looks like Donald Trump took some

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Speaker 3: forty two percent of the vote in the city of Deerborn.

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Speaker 3: What's your reaction to that. There was a lot of

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Speaker 3: discussion about whether voters like yourselves and others who were

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Speaker 3: affected by this would be voting for Jill Stein and

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Speaker 3: possibly even just sitting out, but many actually decided to

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Speaker 3: affirmatively vote for Trump. What do you think the reason

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Speaker 3: behind that is.

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Speaker 11: I think the reasoning behind this is, you know, the messaging,

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Speaker 11: largely from the Vice president's campaign was the other side

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Speaker 11: is worse and things will get worse in Palestine or

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Speaker 11: and Lebanon. And so when I have this conversation with residents,

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Speaker 11: I think of HEJ Cambridge a lot. Was the first

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Speaker 11: Lebani'es American citizen was slaughter than Lebanon. This is the

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Speaker 11: dearborn you think of his family, a very prominent family

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Speaker 11: within the city. What is the message from the Vice

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Speaker 11: president's team to them? How does it get worse than

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Speaker 11: your father being slaughtered amidst helping people and supporting the

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Speaker 11: orphans across the country of Lebanon.

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Speaker 7: How does it get worse than this?

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Speaker 11: How does it get worse than one of my residents

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Speaker 11: who has lost now over seventy family members. How does

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Speaker 11: it get worse than watching your ancestral village being blown

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Speaker 11: up and decimated for fun by the IDF. How does

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Speaker 11: it get worse than that? And so I think that

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Speaker 11: message absolutely failed. Then let's talk about the surrogates that

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Speaker 11: were sent Liz Cheney. Really, we're going to brag about

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Speaker 11: Dick Cheney's endorsement and show up with Liz Cheney numerous times.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry that the list Cheney Democrats did not show

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Speaker 11: up and vote. But in this community, what people stood

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Speaker 11: on was value and principle and morals, and that's what

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Speaker 11: they wanted.

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Speaker 7: So, yes, you saw a.

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Speaker 11: Backlash towards these progenocide candidates, but again it wasn't an

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Speaker 11: abandonment of any party. Rather, it was the reaction to

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Speaker 11: the party abandoning the residents of the city of Dearborn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that certainly makes sense. Ryan, you have a question

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 8: Yes, CNN had a rather incredible take last night, effectively

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Speaker 8: that Kamala Harris was kind of too critical of Israel.

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Speaker 8: A role this for you, if we can put up this, this.

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Speaker 15: Thought here Republican Jewish coalition that was all over the airwaves,

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Speaker 15: a bunch of women sitting around Jewish women just saying

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Speaker 15: I can't stand him. But I felt like we were

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Speaker 15: supporting Israel, and we were stronger, and we were tougher in,

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Speaker 15: and I think that resonates with people.

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Speaker 16: And then to your point, the ad that came out

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Speaker 16: that was beating come up around fear about Israel not

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Speaker 16: being protected. There was never a response from the campaign

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Speaker 16: on that, but I thought it was a big mistake.

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Speaker 16: Amanda Berman from Ziones had to raise money right here

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Speaker 16: her own adds, trying to fight back alone.

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Speaker 7: That didn't work.

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Speaker 16: So but listen, you tied her to the economy, you

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Speaker 16: tied her a Biden, You tired it weird.

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Speaker 17: I agree with everything you're saying. I just didn't want

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Speaker 17: to engage in the autopsy before before we've called the race,

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Speaker 17: and before she dropped out. But you know one thing

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Speaker 17: on that the answer on I can't think of anything

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Speaker 17: offhand about where she would differ with Biden. Was disastrous

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Speaker 17: and there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 17: The question is what motivated it and whether she just

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Speaker 17: felt she did she she did not want to loyalty. Yes,

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Speaker 17: so she should have just said, look, I'm grateful to him.

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Speaker 17: You know, I'm proud of some of the many things

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Speaker 17: we did together, and I'm not going to critique him.

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Speaker 17: I'm gonna I'm talking about the future. Would have been

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Speaker 17: a better answer.

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Speaker 8: What do you what do you make of that argument

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Speaker 8: that she was actually not supportive enough of Israel.

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Speaker 11: I think that warmongerers will continually beat the drums to

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Speaker 11: continue dragging us into wars. If you look at every

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Speaker 11: poll that came out, Democrats, Independence, even young Republicans, they

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Speaker 11: all wanted a president who was willing to bring forth

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Speaker 11: an arms and bargo to hold Benjamin Notatani, how accountable

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Speaker 11: Benjamin Natanya, who is not a popular individual across America.

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Speaker 7: This war is not popular.

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Speaker 11: The use of our U US tax pay our dollars

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Speaker 11: to continually fund this genocide is not popular, So they

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Speaker 11: very much missed the mark. I don't think it was

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Speaker 11: a problem of what these individuals had spoken to. I

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Speaker 11: clearly think it was the distancing of President distancing from

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Speaker 11: President Biden.

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Speaker 7: On the issue of Razza that led to a portion

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Speaker 7: of the defeat.

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Speaker 2: We saw, certainly Benjamin Etnahu placing his chips on Trump winning.

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Speaker 2: Israeli's overwhelmingly wanted Trump to be victorious. I know you

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Speaker 2: have no illusions about the president elect at this point.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect from him visa VIP this conflict.

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Speaker 11: If we've learned anything in sixteen, that's it's learned to

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Speaker 11: not expect because you're going to be surprised at every turn.

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Speaker 11: And so for us, the message I have for my residence,

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Speaker 11: the message I have for my community, is that the

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Speaker 11: real work begins every day before and after an election.

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Speaker 11: And so for us, we have to hold to account

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Speaker 11: whoever assumes that White House.

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Speaker 7: In this case, it will be Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: And we're ready and prepared to organize, to mobilize, to protest,

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Speaker 11: to continually call for policies to help improve and save lives.

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Speaker 7: Be it in this country and across the globe.

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump, in his victory speech gave a shout out

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Speaker 8: to Muslim Americans who had helped put him over the

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Speaker 8: finish line. Are people in Dearborn now considering themselves to

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Speaker 8: be part of that coalition at the table where they

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Speaker 8: can negotiate with Trump? Or are people thinking of themselves

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Speaker 8: as kind of outside the coalition and protesting to kind

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Speaker 8: of push him.

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Speaker 4: In a direction.

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Speaker 11: I don't think anybody is disillusioned by what Trump represents.

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Speaker 11: I think even those who may have cast their vote,

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Speaker 11: what they know is they know how to hold individuals accountable,

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Speaker 11: and that's what they're going to do things. You know,

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Speaker 11: politicians will tell you whatever it takes in order to

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Speaker 11: get themselves elected. And this happens far too often, and

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Speaker 11: so I think what you're going to see here is

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Speaker 11: people just look to each and every.

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Speaker 7: Single policy that comes forward.

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Speaker 11: Again, if we look at the candidates that won yesterday,

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Speaker 11: is skipping the top of the bat look towards the

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Speaker 11: down ballot candidates. These are the individuals that were in

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Speaker 11: the community knocking on doors. We weren't shy to take

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Speaker 11: tough votes on issues that impacted this community directly. Who

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Speaker 11: aligned with where the center of America is now on

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Speaker 11: the issue of Israel Palestine, and so I think what

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Speaker 11: needs to happen is a deep reflection for Democratic party

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Speaker 11: from both parties on the issue of Israel Palestine, and

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Speaker 11: for those parties to move, for their centers to move,

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Speaker 11: just as the American center has moved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mayor, thank you so much. I really grateful. I

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Speaker 2: know we're the first interview that you gave today, so

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Speaker 2: we really are grateful for that and always appreciate your insights.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: It was an awesome election night. Shout out to Logan

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Speaker 3: for joining us and Decision Desk HQ also for giving

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Speaker 3: us live data. But it was a privilege to be

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Speaker 3: with you guys. Yeah, last night, it was genuinely a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Logan with Race the White House. Make sure to follow

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Speaker 1: him over there.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Emily you guys, Emily Crow, everybody, Decision Desk shout.

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Speaker 8: Out to the whole ten people are gradually figuring out

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Speaker 8: that this and the other podcast YouTube world, it actually

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Speaker 8: is the place to be if you want to reach

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Speaker 8: about half the country.

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Speaker 2: Apparently that way it was a wind for all.

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Speaker 3: For the table over here. We're gonna have a great

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Speaker 3: show for everybody tomorrow and we'll see you all the