1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm not like longing for that all the time. It's 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: just something to occupies some thoughts, so you know that 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and hunting for me, it really is. So I can 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: see where a girl would take that place a little 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: bit and make it you wouldn't mind being off the 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: road so much. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Episode four thirty eight with Riley Green, we mentioned this, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: but for a long time, his name to me was 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Riley Duckman, not even Riley Duckman, which is how that 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: name started because he's a big duck hunter. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: But we talked about it, me like, oh, Riley Duckman. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: We get to that later, and I mean, this is 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: the most Riley and I've ever like talked as like 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: normal dudes. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, this is a great example of 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: why it's almost better to do interviews in this format 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: because when he comes in here, it's still hard to 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: get things out of him so quickly. 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: This was great. 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: I mean eight nine, ten minutes and he's playing songs 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: on the radio show, so that's tough. 23 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: This he even addresses this is kind of like therapy. 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked about it later, but you know, Riley 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: and I've done the radio show. Riley and I bailed 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: me out of it a charity event where I was 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: performing Eddie and I were with Jordan Davis, and Jordan 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: wasn't able to come real quick, so I called Riley 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: and Riley went with us to do the show, and 30 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: so super cool of him to do that. We didn't 31 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: even talk about that because I mean, I felt like 32 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: we could have gone a long time. We did over 33 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: an hour, But I like Riley, I just hadn't been 34 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: able to really connect with him. 35 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: But I do feel now like I know him a 36 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: lot better, don't you. 37 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, his new album Ain't My Last Rodeo is now out. 38 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: He just kicked off his Ate My Last Rodeo tour 39 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: February twenty second, which is I think last Thursday. Tracy 40 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Lawrence and Ella Langley out on tour with him, and 41 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: we talked about the Buford Bond Charitable Fund which he has, 42 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: which is inspired by his grandfather's. He just had number 43 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: one again. We talked about his duckman jam at Flora Bama. 44 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: And so you know, Riley Green, we can't play clips, right, 45 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: we can't. Okay, Well, his songs. 46 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: Are like this girl knowing that I didn't. 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Sing him though, right, you can sing them all right, 48 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: and then half me he wants a cold beer. I 49 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: don't know if that's how it goes. That's a number one. 50 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: And then I wish Grandpa's never died wrestling peace Grandpa. 51 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if he says that, but that's that song. 52 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: And then his number one that just happened was different 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: round here with Luke Combs. 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: How's that one go? I just sang three, so I 55 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: can't get them. 56 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: I haven't. 57 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm stuck on the other one, the Grandpa one, I'm 58 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: stuck on half me. He wants a dip. They all 59 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: have beer in him. 60 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh all right, well, here we go. This is Riley Green. 61 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: Follow him at Riley Duckman. At Riley Duckman. 62 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Enjoy Riley. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah man, Were 63 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: you a wrestling guy? 64 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: My mom wouldn't let me watch wrestling ever, No, like 65 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: I had to hear about it from my buddies. The 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: closest I got was the I think Sega Nintendo sixty 67 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: four or something had some. 68 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 3: Like playing it into Yeah, that was it. 69 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: But if my mom orphan about that, I'd probably been 70 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: in trouble too. 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: I was a wrestling guy, but growing up in the 72 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: South and it was just on like TBS and TNT. 73 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: I just watched the movie The Iron Claw, which is out, 74 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: and like zac Efron just got ripped for it. 75 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: But I saw that, Yeah, he watched the movie. 76 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: Saw it's all. 77 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: Is it good? 78 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really because it's a true story of like 79 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: a family in wrestling, and it was a little before 80 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: like my time. But some of those guys in it, 81 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: and I just assumed if you were from the South 82 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: and but your mom wouldn't let you wine, well. 83 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: It was certainly was from the South. It was very popular. 84 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of buddies that watched it, and 85 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: I heard about it every day at school. But uh, 86 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I watched uh thirty for thirty on Uh maybe it 87 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: was rucke Flair. Yeah. Man, the stuff those guys went through. 88 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: It makes you guys toring it. 89 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: It really does. Like I feel like it's such a 90 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: sissy whenever I look at that, especially like I mean, 91 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, I had some some years of what I 92 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: would call I thought partying a little bit but nothing like. 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: That, and having to keep themselves going through any means possible, 94 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: and some of that was partying, but I mean the 95 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: partying turned into how do we keep our energy? How 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: do we keep even with the drugs they were doing 97 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: to keep their bodies in shape. 98 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Well, the level of show that they had to put 99 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: on every night even versus what we have to do, 100 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: is like I wouldn't want that job. That's insane. 101 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: You ever get sick and then have to call and 102 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: I've done this a couple of times. We have to call, 103 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: find a minute clinic and get them to shoot you 104 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: up as a steroids so you can get through the night. 105 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I had I lost eighteen pounds last 106 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: week with the flu, and I'm like one of those 107 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: where I. 108 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Don't get sick off and if I do, hold on, 109 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: hold on, I need that flu then well I was. 110 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Trying to Like it sounds like I almost trying to 111 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: put on someone I've never heard of. Eighteen Like I 112 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: broke a fever. This is no exaggeration. I've never had 113 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: this kind of sick. I laid in the bed and 114 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: just sweated for twenty four hours, Like I would get up, shower, 115 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: get back there. Like I had to change beds, change blankets, 116 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Like it was insanity. But I was like two eight 117 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: or something. The morning I started feeling sick. I got 118 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: in the bed. When I got up and weighed again, 119 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: I was like one eighty nine. 120 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: Sounds like you beat a bowl up more than it 121 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: was the flu. 122 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: Hey, god, dang you to be here. I feel that way. 123 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Did anybody else in your crew get the flu? Or 124 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: are you the only one? Yeah, Josh gave it to me. Yeah, 125 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: I mean it always it's and Josh, you didn't create it. 126 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm not No, I'm not saying you said in a. 127 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Lab Josh and created the flu right like we all 128 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: get it. 129 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: I will tell you the type of friend Josh is. 130 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Josh went to high school with me, elementary school. He's 131 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: on the road with me. Now h comes up, goes 132 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: on the road with me, gives me the flu. I 133 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: would have never told me that, you know. He was like, hey, man, sorry, 134 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I got you sick. 135 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: Wait, what would you have know? 136 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't horribly sick before I left Jackson, Alabama to 137 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: come up. 138 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: Josh, how long have you been here? Oh he's new new. 139 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah he didn't know what he's doing. 140 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh. 141 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't do flu up up here. If we 142 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: have flu, we don't give it. We try to keep 143 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: away from people. Yeah, I don't know Alabama because Alabama's 144 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: I got the flu and he gonna get my cousin 145 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: because I'm in Arkansas. 146 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: We used to do that too. 147 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: What's fun about having somebody that's very removed from this 148 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: industry come into it is Josh always been around me 149 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: playing music, but like I get to literally teach him 150 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: lessons like that, Like hey, listen, I got verbatim and said, 151 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: just so you know, if you're sick, just don't cut 152 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: you know. 153 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, because it'll then he knows this. 154 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: Everybody knows this because then it slowly spreads even if 155 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't get to you COVID. 156 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: Days, you know. And and you know, like even if 157 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: you weren't feeling bad, it wasn't that it was out 158 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: with dirks when we finally started back, you know, and 159 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: there was all those protocols and testing to get backstage 160 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: and everything was if somebody got it, you might have 161 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: to canceled the whole. 162 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: A lot of people's love, a lot of responsibility. And 163 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: I felt that I was doing a show for nat 164 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: GEO and we were traveling around the country, but if 165 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: I got it, the whole cruise couldn't work. So that's 166 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: paychecks and so and if one of the crew guys, 167 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: like camera guys or audio guys got it. We could 168 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: just make do you could move some if it's you. 169 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: Or if it's me. 170 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: The whole crew got shut down, so there was a 171 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: different kind of responsibility. 172 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: Did you miss any shows because of flu Uh? I 173 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: didn't know. I just it was a good time. 174 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: And if there is such a thing, it was after 175 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: a weekend run of shows. I got some fluid. Somebody 176 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: came on games some fluid. I got over it pretty quickly, 177 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: but but yeah, that rock dock will your life on 178 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: the road, somebody come by. 179 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: And for a while I was traveling so much, either 180 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: shooting or just doing stand up on the road that 181 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: I was like, I got to find a way because 182 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: doctors are a little weird about prescribing things if they're 183 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: your doctor and your TA. So I have a like 184 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: a concierge doctor now and so I can call him anytime. Yeah, 185 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: and I can get whatever I want, like crack weed. 186 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: It's immediately. 187 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 3: It's uh. 188 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: It's it's funny that it takes like my, I guess my, 189 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, rise to be an in country music of 190 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: some level where something like that was available to me 191 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: was very gradual, so I can remember, like even in 192 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like struggling with calling my 193 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: like old primary care doctor back in Alabama, trying to 194 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: get a prescription standing and they won't. They can't do 195 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: across state lines. I'm running from five different walgreens other 196 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and then I realized, wait a second, you can just 197 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: call this guy and it'll just show up with some stuff. 198 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we'll do that. I did. 199 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: I won't say what, but they had a doctor that 200 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: was kind of a wink wink doctor, meaning if you 201 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: were hurt, if you're injured, the wink wink doctor would 202 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: come and just go, what do you think you need? Yeah, 203 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: and you would get what you thought you needed. And 204 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: it was just kind of the understanding where I have 205 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: friends that are athletes that don't have wink wink doctors. 206 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: I made that turn up to it's pretty cool wink 207 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: wink doctor. 208 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a real turn But. 209 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: They have a doctor that their goal is to if 210 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: you're not gonna hurt it further, which maybe always may 211 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: not be the right idea either, but I guess but 212 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: at your livelihood though, and. 213 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: At your job, well yeah, and I mean, you know, 214 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: This is different than going and playing a football game 215 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: or something like. Yeah, you can strain your voice to 216 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: a point where I guess you could have to have 217 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: some kind of surgery or something. But for me, it's 218 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: it literally is just when you get in that type 219 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: of shape, you just got to get through it. 220 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, do you ever have. 221 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: Injuries, like like old athletic injuries that creep up on 222 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: you now that inhibit you at all? 223 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Seems like it just started about run I turn thirty five. Yeah, 224 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: it's a I try to work out on the road. 225 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: Just stay busy. It's hard to eat right on the road. 226 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: You know, as you get older, you forgot ways to 227 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: stay in some kind of shape. And my thing's like 228 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: waking up in a different bed where it'd be the 229 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: bus or a hotel or you know, home in Alabama 230 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: or home here, sleeping on different type mattresses is like 231 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm an old person now, like it's it just kills me. 232 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: How often are you in Alabama versus in Nashville percentage wise? 233 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Uh? Well, when we get busy touring, you know, like 234 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: if I'm off Sunday through Wednesday, let's say not on 235 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the road, I'd usually go home. You know, like something 236 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: like this in town, or I had to write yesterday. 237 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: What I do is try to schedule all my stuff 238 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: to where I can kind of knock it all out 239 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: in a week and then go spend a couple of 240 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: weeks home a month. 241 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Can you write on the road effectively or when you're 242 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: on the road is it so much it's just stimulus 243 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: everywhere that you can't really sit down. 244 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: It's tough. I've never been really good at it. 245 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: I have taken some writers out on the road, written 246 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: some songs that ended up getting cut. But I think 247 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I write best when I'm either just have an idea, 248 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about something hits me and I like then 249 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: I want to sit in and ride that day. Or 250 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: if I'm just kind of if I ever have a 251 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: chance to get bored, you know, like coming home, we're 252 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: all about that today, and I walk by a guitar 253 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: and pick it up and want to play it, That's 254 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: when I'll write. You know, when you're on the road, 255 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of like you don't really want to look 256 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: at your guitar again until it's time to get on stage. 257 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, being bored is a very undervalued thing. Once 258 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: you haven't been bored in a while. 259 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: I haven't been bored in a long time. It's see 260 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you can tell too. I think Christmas Break I wrote 261 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: more than I did, you know, the majority of the year. 262 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Last year, I used to feel like if I was bored, 263 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: that meant that nobody really required my services anymore, and 264 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: I would start to look at it as maybe I'm 265 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: not in demand or I'm kind of losing my edge. 266 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: But now I just have run so busy at times 267 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: when I wasn't even really being effective. But now when 268 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: I'm bored, I mean it's like, you know, like for me, 269 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: it's in the shower, I get great thought. I feel 270 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: like they are great thoughts. In the shower, I'm like, oh, 271 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: because all inhibitions are done. But when I'm bored, like 272 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: I get really it feels like fresh, fresh, creative. 273 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you go get in the tree for a 274 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: few hours, you know. 275 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: I just I'm too cold. 276 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: And I didn't even know that you couldn't have dogs 277 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: and Tennessee until like last week, because we had dogs. 278 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: We had tons of dogs. We'd run dogs like crazy. 279 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: And it's a little more exciting too though. 280 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: That was fine. 281 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my kind and Also I had to learn 282 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: how to drive at like twelve because if they're tracking 283 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: the dogs and he's like, hey, you need to go 284 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: meet us. Over all, So I'm twelve and you had 285 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: no your way around too. Yeah I'm twelve driving down 286 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: through the back roads. But I didn't know dogs in 287 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: Tennessee weren't allowed. 288 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And they've they've gotten real strict on dog 289 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: seasons in a lot of states Alabama, including like you 290 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: have like the last couple weeks of the season or 291 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: something like that. For me, like even not actually being 292 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: in the woods hunting, but like when I you know, 293 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: November hits and ruts on, or you know, duck season, 294 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'll go off somewhere be by myself 295 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: for a week, you know, like go up to Kansas. 296 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: I got a little house up there on some property, 297 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: and like I remember going to Kansas hunting for I 298 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: think five days, and I didn't talk to another human. 299 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: You went doing by yourself completely. 300 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I always do. I mean, you know, 301 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Josh goes on home and the band they go do 302 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: their thing. I don't take anybody on the road with me, 303 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: and that's probably where I get most of my creative 304 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: work done. 305 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: Do you know? 306 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know him, but do you know 307 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: him in any close way? Craig Morgan, Yeah, courage great, 308 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: it's awesome. Except now he's like, you got to come 309 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: to Alaska. And I'm like, I've never been to Alaska anyway, 310 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: So the two states I haven't been to. He said, 311 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: you got to come to Alaska, and I'm like, ah, 312 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: and he knows I grew up. I don't anymore because 313 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: I went. But I grew up hunting and fishing in 314 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: my whole life right until like eight. It's all we 315 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: did is the culture. And so he was like, no, no, no, 316 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: you come to Alaska. 317 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna love. It's gonna take you back to your roots. 318 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: And first of all, I want to be cold. Second 319 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: of all, what's good about it? He goes, there's no 320 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: electricity and no Wi Fi. 321 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't have those roots. I always had electricity. 322 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it's like, dude, all that is making it 323 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: work our grandparents Like there's yeah, no, that's that's their 324 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: grandparents for it. 325 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: There's a middle ground for me, Like I've got a 326 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: little house, a little farmhouse. There's direct TV, you know, 327 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: and I got going there and I'll sit, but I 328 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: mean as far as like disconnect from what is the 329 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: norm of my life, which is not normal, you know. 330 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, you certainly can 331 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: agree with. Is like when you're running and gunning and 332 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: just going wide open, you don't have that time to 333 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: really sit down and think about it. But when you 334 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: do get removed from it, whether it be sitting around 335 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: the house or some kind of breaking the holidays, it 336 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: is such a light switch of a lifestyle change. 337 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: When can you really appreciate the hard work that you've 338 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: put in. 339 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, as much I had to say it, 340 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: COVID was a probably the best time I had for that, 341 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: just because when I signed a deal in eighteen uh 342 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: and it was kind of you know, I was on 343 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: a major tours, I number one songs, one of ACM Awards, 344 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: and things were just real, and it's hard to really 345 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: comprehend all that when you're in it, and you do 346 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: get in that, just get through it, you know, like 347 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you when I'll look look at shows, is not necessarily 348 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: something I'm looking forward to as much as something like 349 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: me and I want it to go well, you know, 350 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: and you. 351 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: Could do you enjoy it afterward. That's how I find myself. 352 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: When the show's over and you know, a handful of 353 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: bud are there whoever showed up or all on the bus, 354 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: and everybody's been. 355 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: It was a great It was good, Wasn't that I. 356 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Enjoy, you know, And it's it's kind of a weird 357 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: way to be about it, because playing music is fun 358 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: and I do enjoy that. So I think that when 359 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I do have those little breaks, I can kind of 360 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: sit back and look at, you know, the things that 361 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: are going on. It's funny you said that about feeling 362 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: like it because your bored things aren't going well, But 363 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: that's just such a natural instinct because you are so 364 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: busy when things are. 365 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: Going well, and because if you're like me, the early stages, 366 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: nobody really wanted me to do anything. 367 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: I was just begging for anything, like please put me 368 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: on this. 369 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: And so by the time I was allowed to do 370 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: things and then got to choose to do things. And 371 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: if I'm not working, I'm not being valued. 372 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I think I was real fortunate, you know, because I 373 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: can imagine the stresses of that, especially in a town 374 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: like this, you know, with the competition of it and 375 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: trying to just grind every day and make relationships and 376 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: get opportunities that I didn't have to deal with any 377 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: of that. I was doing construction work and playing shows 378 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: on the weekends, and I had no aspiration of being 379 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: in country music industry. 380 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: You know, Is it because you didn't know you could 381 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: have aspiration very much? 382 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I never would have thought it. And it's a 383 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: little bit from you know. I mean, I played a 384 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: lot of shows for several years, you know, cover shows, 385 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: started writing a little bit, but I just saw so 386 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: many people that were better than me. You know. The 387 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: first time I ever played in Nashville, I think I 388 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: came and played an open mic deal at Tootsi's and 389 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Broadway and it was like two in the afternoon, and 390 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I played two songs and there was a line of people. 391 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: I remember, some girl with a fiddle and guy with 392 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: a bandjo like still Wait with their instruments on. 393 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: They were all better me. 394 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: I listened about five of them and left, and I 395 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: was that was stupid, And I went back and played 396 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: at the Mexican Restaurant in Jacksonville for one hundred and 397 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: fifty bucks. 398 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: What would you tell, though, somebody that's going through that 399 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: right now, because obviously your perspective has completely changed. 400 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: That you don't have to be better than. It's not 401 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: a better than type thing. 402 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my advice is going to be from 403 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: what I can say, and that said, I'm never I'm 404 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: never the guy that just like I sing the national 405 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: anthem and blow you away with my vocal range like 406 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Chris Stapleton or somebody. I've never had that for me. 407 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: What could set me apart from somebody else is the 408 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: type of songs I could write just because of the 409 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: way I look at my life or how I grew 410 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: up or whatever that is. So my advice has always 411 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: been to just write as many songs as you can, 412 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: don't be critical of them, because a lot of the 413 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: songs I've got that have got me where I am 414 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: or not giant hit songs in the sense of a 415 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: record label, you know, Like I can think of several 416 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: songs I've got that have gotten me to this point 417 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: in my career that if I walked into any label 418 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: in town and played them, they went, what else you got? 419 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: You know? And I don't know why it works, you know, 420 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: that's just something something that's unique to me that I 421 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: write about. And I think that That's what people can 422 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: can do, can set theirselves apart, is just write a 423 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of songs. 424 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: What was homelike for you? You mentioned your mom earlier, but 425 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: what was homelke growing up? 426 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: You know? Wrestling? 427 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I need to hear. We'll see you 428 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: next week, everybody. 429 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: She'll be glad I brought that up. You know, she's 430 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: probably proud of that. Said, well, I didn't let him 431 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: watch wrestling. It was great, man. I was really fortunate. 432 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Didn't realize it until, you know, around coll college. Mom 433 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: and dad both alive, both there, Mom and dad both there. 434 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Both sets of my grandparents were alive the majority of 435 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: my life. My granddad be first one to pass in 436 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: twenty ten, so I had four grandparents, a great grandmother. 437 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: My granny lived until twenty twenty. She was ninety eight, 438 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: So all of my family right there, and like they 439 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: all grew up, like both sets of my grandparents knew 440 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: each other when they were kids, you know, and so 441 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: it was just I was really fortunate to have everybody 442 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: within a few miles of where I grew up at 443 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: and when I wasn't playing ball, I was out run 444 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: around my grandparents and I just had that relationship that 445 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't have. 446 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: How big was your school? 447 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what, graduated one hundred and twenty, one 448 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty something like that of middle Yeah, I guess. 449 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I mean not small. 450 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: I got for like fifty, right, that was small, but like, yeah, 451 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: five hundred some of. 452 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: The you know those are thousand were There were some 453 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: bigger schools around us. We were Jacksonville, the city of 454 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Jacksone where there's Jacksonville State, University of College and all that. 455 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: I kind of lived in. But my family's from a 456 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: community called Pleasant Valley, which is right outside of town, 457 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: which is like one flashing light. There's one store, It's 458 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: called Green Store. EO. Green runs a store out there, 459 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: and the old men played dominoes in the morning, and 460 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, kind of like going back in time. 461 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: It hasn't changed since I was a kidd. 462 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: How did the transition happen of you being in a 463 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: small town to you being here and when you started 464 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: to learn that it is actually the semi tangible thing 465 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: that you could do, Like when did that start to 466 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: get planted in your brain? 467 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: I said, it was. 468 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Really really gradual. 469 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: I can remember one moment of I was playing at 470 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, two or three different bar type restaurants around 471 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: northeast Alabama every week. I did that for a few years, 472 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: working too, working, Yeah, I do, and I built houses 473 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: until twenty eighteen. Literally when I signed my deal, I 474 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: came to town and started writing because my goal was I 475 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: thought I had built enough of a fan base off 476 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: of writing songs. I thought I could get a published 477 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: started getting some publishing deal offers. Then labels started coming 478 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: to my shows. I had four record labels off me 479 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: record and I signed a pub some deal with Warren Chappell. 480 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: One week. 481 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: I signed a record do a big machine the next 482 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: week and quit working and went on the road doing 483 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: radio tour. 484 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: So it was like that did that felt really weird though, 485 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: because as awesome as that would be, when your whole 486 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: life you've grown a custom and your knowledge is only 487 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: in go to work, work hard, support and now, but 488 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: now you're just a creative which I'm assuming nobody down 489 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: there was doing anything creative. 490 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I've never co written, because I mean there was nobody 491 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: around that I wrote songs with you know what you know, 492 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: so there was nobody that knew anything about what was 493 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: going on with me, and I didn't know what was 494 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: going on. I was fortunate to meet some folks in 495 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: town that kind of guide me in the right way. 496 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. I was riding around with Eric Dillon, 497 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: who wrote there was This Girl with Me, and I 498 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: was really stressed out about figuring out what record label 499 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna sign with, you know, knowing that's a 500 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: big decision, said man, I can't wait till I get 501 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: this figured out. And I signed so I can go 502 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: back and have a little time off. I've been to 503 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: Nashville so much. And he's like, do you have no 504 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: idea what a record deal is? You're about to go 505 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: on the road I'm radio to And I mean he 506 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: was right, obviously, But it was just little moments like 507 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: playing at Iron City and Birmingham and you know, the 508 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: guy asked me to come down there and play, and 509 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I remember thinking it would be empty. You know, it 510 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: was held like twelve hundred and thirteen hundred people and 511 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: we sold twelve hundred and sixty tickets and I didn't 512 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: know anybody knew what I wasn't burnonh In That was 513 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: an hour and a half hour from where I grew up, 514 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: at and started going to Georgia and playing Atlanta and 515 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: playing Athens and in South Georgia, and it just so 516 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I had a fan base from me putting music out 517 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: that I didn't really know. 518 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: Was there were you putting it up on like DSPs. 519 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: So I was telling somebody yesterday. I don't remember if 520 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: it was CD baby was like an avenue or Tune 521 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: Corps or something, And what it did was I just 522 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: recorded it and it was all awful recordings, you know, 523 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean like the production it was. I played guitar 524 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: on a lot of It was just like an engineering studio. 525 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: And I looked up where I was a big fan 526 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: of Drake Whitt and I was a big fan of Jasonisible, 527 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: and I looked up where they recorded. 528 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: It was Famed Studios and Must Shows. It was about 529 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 3: two hours moets, so. 530 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I drove there. They talked to the guy at the 531 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: front desk and he was like yeah, and he went 532 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: twists some knobs and I played it and he said 533 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: how's that. I was like, I guess it's good, you 534 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: know, I mean it was awful, But I just put it 535 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: out on whatever those platforms were, and eventually I started 536 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: looking in tune cors. There'd be some checks in there, 537 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: and then I knew I was going to be rich. 538 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Like I was just looking. I was like twelve hundred 539 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: dollars or something in tune Corps once a month, you know. 540 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: So it was it was a cool thing. But it 541 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: wasn't like there was any a song on the radio. 542 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: Was the furthest thing from mine? 543 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: Was there a local anything that started to play a 544 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: song first, like on a local weekend show or was 545 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: it you had to come to Nashville and then finally 546 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: it got put back onto the home stuff. 547 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: There was a I mean, I wouldn't be a syndicated 548 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: show like a ninety five to five I think, wh may. 549 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like even a small station. 550 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a guy with a text Carter used 551 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: to kind of play some stuff on me. But I 552 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: was doing big shows in a small part of the world, 553 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: you know. Like I had a festival that I put 554 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: on called the Back forty Bass that I thought we'd 555 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: get a couple und of people to show up too, 556 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: and we had twelve hundred the first one. It was 557 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: on my property. We built a stage and you did 558 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: it at your absolute insanity. Yet Josh Jos tell you 559 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: to just insurance on the thing. Oh yeah, I got 560 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: like fifty dollars insurance from like my guy that does 561 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: my car insurance. But I had one buddy of mine 562 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: that was a county share work in security, and we 563 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: let people bring your own coolers, and it was moonshine, 564 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: and like everybody there got a fight. I got in 565 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: a fight. Everybody fought, and uh my mom was taking 566 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: up ticket money on one end, my dad on the other. 567 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: I never forget. 568 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: It was real dry. 569 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: I went to my dad and he was like when 570 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: he blinked, dust fell off his eyelashes. He was so 571 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: coded it. But he pulled out all this big water 572 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: and I said, we look at this when we're gonna 573 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: be rich, you know. I think we made like twenty 574 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: grand or something, you know, at this festival. So we 575 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: did it a couple more years, and my uncle Ty, 576 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: whose property was at the time, would say every year, like, 577 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good time. We're never doing 578 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: this again, you know. It was like just a nightmare, 579 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: and then I'd give him a couple thousand. We'll try 580 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: it one more time, you know. But because of that, 581 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I had relationship with those local stations and they would 582 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: kind of try to help. 583 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: Me out, you know, hang tight the Bobby Cast. We'll 584 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 4: be right back. Wow, And we're back on the Bobby Cast. 585 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Who gave you your first guitar? 586 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: My grandaddy Bufford was an old epiphone guitar, nothing real nice. 587 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: I wrote a song about him that I played at 588 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: his funeral, and there was a line in that song 589 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: that somebody asked me about. And I couldn't remember what 590 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking when I wrote it, but it was 591 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: he never could hisself, but he taught me how to play. 592 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: And it's kind of weird because I don't remember what 593 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking when I wrote that. I was sixteen, 594 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: seventeen years old. But he just enjoyed the guitar. And 595 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: so we started going and sitting on the porch of 596 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: my great grandparents house, who were no longer living, and 597 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: he'd get the Yellow Pages and call up so and 598 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: so that he used to play the banjo or the 599 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: mandolin whatever. And the next thing, he knows me and 600 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: all these old guys out there playing guitar, and started 601 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: a little deal called the Golden Saw Music Hall in 602 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: my great grandparents' house. And we did that every Friday 603 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: for about fourteen years, and I would just sit on stage, 604 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: the old guys and like watch how they made chords play. 605 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: So that was kind of how I started playing music. 606 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: But even with that kind of background, I didn't think 607 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: it was going anywhere, you know. It was just like 608 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: my green day. Lenden liked to fish and golf. That's 609 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: what we did when I was with him. I'm going 610 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: to do for like country music. That's when I was 611 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: around him, That's what we did. 612 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: The guys that you were playing with, the old guys 613 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: from around town, were they generous with their time to 614 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: show you things or were you just learning through being 615 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: around it? 616 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 617 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: Very man. Uh there's uh, you know how small towns 618 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: are like that. In this type of communities, man, everybody 619 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of is just is just close. And they all 620 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: pulled for me because I was the kid up there, 621 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and I was, you know, twelve thirteen years 622 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: old singing like great Speckled Bird by roy A Cuff 623 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: like I mean stuff that was, you know, seemingly one 624 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: hundred years before my time. And uh, they were very 625 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: helpful and and it they'd come over there during the 626 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: week and we'd sit around and play. And I learned 627 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot from those guys. And uh, I wasn't very good, 628 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: but I got a lot of false confiden from the 629 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: fact that everybody was cheered when I got up there 630 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: because I was a kid, you know, among so much 631 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: of old guys. So it was it was a cool, 632 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: cool thing, another thing that I kind of took for granted, 633 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: didn't realize how unique it was until kind of after. 634 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 2: What do you think motivated you to continue? Because that 635 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen, fifteen year old part of life, we're just 636 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: kind of all over. 637 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but why who did you want to do it for? 638 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: Was it for your grandfather because you felt like he 639 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: brought you or was it did the guitar just like 640 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: grab you? 641 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: Songwriting just grab you? 642 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: So all through high school nothing really came from it. 643 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: I played three sports and guitar was just, like I said, 644 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: something I did with my granddaddy. 645 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: On the side, people at school did not know you 646 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: were a musician. I mean, it wasn't something that you 647 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: really I didn't like play a talent shows or anything. 648 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I was like quarterback of the football team, 649 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: so that wasn't what I was known for doing. And 650 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I went to Jacksonville State, walked on, played a little 651 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: bit of football, there. While I was in college, I 652 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: played lead guitar in a band called Southern Harmony, and 653 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: we would just play like frat gigs. That one of 654 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the guys that was the lead singer was in that fraternity, 655 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: so we just kind of grand followed in to play 656 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: We're not very good. And from that, I guess I 657 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: started to sing a little bit and then started to 658 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: play my own acoustic shows. And there was a time 659 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: in there, probably twenty two to twenty four twenty five, 660 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: where it got really monotonous to me. I was playing 661 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: the same shows every week, the same places, seeing the 662 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: same folks, when we were having a good time, you know, 663 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: making one hundred dollars a night, getting a free bar tab. 664 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: That was when it clicked for me, was when I 665 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: started writing songs. I got tired of playing the same 666 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: songs all the time, so I started writing some and 667 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: trying to replace songs in my set that did well 668 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: with something that I came up with. 669 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: And that was a turning point for me. Was when 670 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: people would go. 671 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: And play that when you played last week that you wrote, 672 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: you know, and then eventually I went and recorded some 673 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: of those songs, and that was, you know, that was 674 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: where it became more enjoyable to me. The songwriting part 675 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: of it's always been the thing that was the most 676 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: fun and I think the most motivating thing, because to 677 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: make somebody feel some kind of emotion from something you 678 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: came up with, I think is what any songwriter enjoys. 679 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: The juxtaposition of you being an athlete, a guy from 680 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: the country, guy from the South. Then you're also singing, 681 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you weren't big, maybe they 682 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: punched the shoulder a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 683 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: I certainly. 684 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: My mom, I can remember when I was like sixth grade, 685 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: made me be in the choir at Kittystone Singers is 686 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: what it was called. Katy Stone was my elementary school 687 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: because she was gonna pay for me to play soccer. 688 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: We didn't have peee football, so I played baseball, basketball 689 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: and soccer and she said you can play, but you 690 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: got to be in Keystone Singers. And that was the 691 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: most painful thing I've ever done. It was just me 692 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: and a bunch of girls up there and I'm like 693 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: trying to you know. And I even went to one 694 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: voice lesson at Jacksonville State a guy up there. It 695 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: was very My mom was like set it up for me. 696 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: It was very like walked in the back door, you know. 697 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm playing quarterback at jacksonvill State going to 698 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: voice lessons. You know, I walked into the guys like, 699 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: all right, give me a I don't know what you 700 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: call it, like a file la la la, And I 701 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: was like, I can't do this. 702 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 3: I was left that was it. 703 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna happen. 704 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: So so you learned how to sing just by singing? 705 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm my older My oldest sister, Lindy is 706 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: a very talented singer. 707 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: Does she do it? 708 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: She does? She went to Lagrange George on a music scholarship, 709 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: was in several like plays, very you know, artsy whatever 710 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: you want to call that. But I'd never had any 711 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: type of I'm sure I don't sing right now, you know, 712 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: like as far as how you're supposed to do it. 713 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: But I just I guess maybe I got by without 714 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: getting beat up because of what I was singing. 715 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: You know. 716 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: I didn't sing a lot of fluffy songs. It was. 717 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: It was a lot of you know, Hank Williams type 718 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: stuff and Merle Haggard. So I guess I got got 719 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: away with it because of that. What was your mom, 720 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: like just in general, she was tough man. She she 721 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: used to just wear me out. I mean I needed it. 722 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: I was. 723 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: I was a lot more trouble before I was old 724 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: enough to get in trouble, if that makes sense. I 725 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: think when I was a teenager, I was a lot 726 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: more uh, just whatever I could get into. And she 727 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Alway used to say when I made it the twenty two, 728 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: her job was done, like I'm alive. And one thing 729 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: that was cool about my family with the music thing 730 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: was nobody ever thought I would be where I'm at 731 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: or anywhere near where I'm at. But everybody was very 732 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: supportive of when I was doing it. I mean that 733 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that they missed the show and I 734 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: played in town and some of them I probably wish 735 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been at because we used to get 736 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: a little rowdy, you know, playing in the hometown bars. 737 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: But they still come out to all the shows or 738 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: anything that's close, and you know, that's a it's a 739 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty crazy thing to have as a goal or a dream, 740 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: is to make it in country music. So for them 741 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: to be as supportive as they were was what was 742 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: very fortunate. 743 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: You have brothers and sisters. I know you have a sister. 744 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: You have two sisters. Casey is two years older me. 745 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: She's got two little kids. And Lindy's was the singer. 746 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: She's three years older me. No, she's ten years older me. 747 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: She got three kids. 748 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: So you're the youngest and the only boy that's right. 749 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: Was your dad a big guy? 750 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's yeah, he's six y three. 751 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: When did you grow? 752 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: I had like one of those three inch ninth grade summers. 753 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: I was probably one of the shorter guys in my 754 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: grade and then sprouted, and then it took me about 755 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: a year to get my coordination back, you know, playing 756 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: ball with big hands and feet, being along and everything, 757 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: and I could never put any weight on it was 758 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: always real thin. But yeah, I kind of had to 759 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: grow spread around ninth grade. 760 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: So tenth grade, did you get to play on the 761 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: senior high team has the tenth grade? 762 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 763 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: Did you start? Yeah at quarterback? Yeah? 764 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Well no, I started quarterback eleventh grade. Yeah. 765 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: What'd you play in tenth grade? Like wide receiver? 766 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I think I played a little bit of everything, safety, 767 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, played backup quarterback, and I think I lay 768 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: in both ways. My senior year too, we were we 769 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: had a tough time in football. We had a great basketball, 770 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: great baseball program, but we got knocked around a little 771 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: bit in football. 772 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: How many people our football team, and we had to 773 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: play a lot of guys played both ways. I didn't 774 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: play much both ways. 775 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: I hated hitting. I catch. 776 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: I did not want to get hit day, So don't 777 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: hit me please, but a lot we had like thirty 778 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: eight players total, right, so you took a twenty two. 779 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then some special two were all y'all a 780 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: double A okay, we were for a and you played 781 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: both plays. Yeah, well so we I. 782 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: Had three different head coaches tenth, eleventh and twelfth CA year. 783 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: We had coach changes, and the last one that came 784 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: in was like a Paul Bear Bryant esque Old school 785 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: ran the wishbone triple option, which if if your quarterback, 786 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: you you get hit every play, whether you have the 787 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: ball or not. You fake to have the ball. 788 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: So, uh, you ran triple option your senior year. Yes, 789 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: you're just getting pounded. 790 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: It was yeah, and we didn't have the best offensive line. 791 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad Josh here he can start. He can be 792 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: like this in the background. Uh, but it was Uh, 793 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: it was tough. For me because when I got to college, 794 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I had to almost like relearn how to read a 795 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: secondary because I mean we threw two or three times 796 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: a game and it was a touchdown because everybody was 797 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: in the box. But it was was a It was 798 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: a pretty unique experience having all that going on. And uh, 799 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: I think he I think he was pretty tough on 800 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: as he ran her. But I think we had twenty 801 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: two players senior year. I know that when somebody got hurt, 802 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: we didn't have enough to scrimmage, no way coaches had 803 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: to stand in on defense. It was wild. 804 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 805 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: So if you're running the triple option, or you're running 806 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: any sort of year, any sort of that's not a 807 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: pro style, or even you know, shotgun spread formation, and 808 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: you're going to college where that's all they run pro styles, again, 809 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: you're having. 810 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: To completely learn. 811 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: It was tough. 812 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: So and you walked on. Did you have any scholarship 813 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: offers at all? Uh? 814 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: No, I actually had more talk to more schools about baseball, 815 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: because a quarterback, unless you're gonna call it Navy, Yeah 816 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: I was. 817 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech did it for a little while, but there's 818 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: not much calling for an. 819 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: Austin So you could, but if you're running the option 820 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: the whole time, my coach is gonna be like, hey man, 821 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: we've been watching your tape. 822 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wasn't really built for it. 823 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean I was more like a tall, skinny like 824 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: I would I think standing in the pocket and passed. 825 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, at the end of the day, I don't 826 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: think I was going to make it to the Cowboys. 827 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: So it's not a huge letdown, but it was tough 828 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: to try to relearn that going into college at the 829 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: old Wishbone. 830 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: Why did you go play college football? Walk on? 831 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I just that was my favorite sport, I mean, and 832 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: that was Jacksonville State University was my hometown college. You know, 833 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: just that was kind of a dream come true to 834 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: even go try it, and even to this day, like 835 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: relationships I made guys I played with probably more than anything. 836 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: The accountability of being eighteen years old and having to 837 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: get up for a five thirty workout, you know, people 838 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: not making you go to class like that was irreplaceable 839 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: for me because I was not anywhere near ready to 840 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: join the job for us at that time. 841 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: How many years did you play ball? 842 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: Two and a half and what's the most significan plant 843 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: time you got in college. 844 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, it was two thousand and eight. I was a 845 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: starter and we signed the former national championship quarterback from LSU, 846 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Perlew. 847 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: Highly recruited dude. 848 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: I remember being at seven on seven and coach Luke 849 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Pruk called me in the office and they said they 850 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: signed Ryan Paarlue and I said, clean up a locker. Yeah, 851 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: that sucks. 852 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: Did you enjoy what you said when it was over? 853 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: Was that your identity to yourself? 854 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean I always did so much stuff. I mean, 855 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I guess by the time I got done playing ball, 856 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: I was playing in bars a little bit. I'd always 857 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: done construction work. 858 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 3: You know. 859 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: My grandparents were always very supportive of sports, watched every 860 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: game and everything. But it wasn't like that's what made 861 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: me by any means. You know, I felt like I 862 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: had other places I could go, and I kind of 863 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: knew that was going to end at some point, so 864 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: it wasn't an awful thing for me to go through, 865 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: and it was. 866 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: It really led into me going to work. 867 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: I think my last semester of college, my dadd I 868 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: had back surgery and him and his brother framed houses together. 869 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: I left school and went and helped my uncle build houses, 870 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I'm gonna be rich doing this. 871 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make, you know, a couple hundred dollars a 872 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: night and playing on the weekends and make five six 873 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a week framing houses. And I got amazed. 874 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: So I bet you made less money when you got 875 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: a record deal for a while. 876 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: Then, I hate to think about it, especially when the 877 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: irs found out who I was sure then it was. 878 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: Really bad because you're making money daily. I used to 879 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: I roof houses for a while, and a lot of 880 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: that money you just make, it's. 881 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, you see it. That's the thing. 882 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: Yes, But also like you're working and you're getting paid 883 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: when you're doing radio tour, you're just spending money. 884 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not you're not getting paid. Well. 885 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: I can remember because I didn't have a booking agent 886 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: and I was playing, you know, one hundred hundred and 887 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: twenty shows a year up until I signed the deal. 888 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have a manager nothing, so I 889 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: was it was just word of mouth. I had a 890 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: little business card to my phone number on it. I 891 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: just give to people on bars would call me or 892 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: owners or whatever promoters and so people would call and 893 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: ask me about playing a private show. And that was 894 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: a tough thing for me because I hated to be 895 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: like ten thousand dollars, you know, like that's a bunch 896 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: of money. I was working during the week for five 897 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: hundred a week, but you know, like weddings and stuff like, 898 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: they had a pretty big budget. So it was always 899 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: a weird thing for me. Somebody would call and I'd go, 900 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, five grand. I remember sitting with Red Akins 901 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: one time, right and going, how much money would you 902 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: have to have to turn down fifteen thousand to go 903 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: play acoustic for five minutes. I don't know that I'll 904 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: ever have that much money. I mean, that's still a 905 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: bunch of money. And I remember when I got with 906 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: a manager and a booking agent all stuff, and then 907 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: people would call out a private show and we'd have 908 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: to turn something down. I'm like, man, I'll go do 909 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: it for eight grand were talking about. And then you 910 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: realize when you got a bus and you got this, 911 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: and you got that it cost me whatever to go 912 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: play a show. 913 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: I would hate to know what it costs now. 914 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: We got four buses and two eighteen wheelers and lighting 915 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: boards and camera guys and everything else. So it's, uh, 916 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: we're very blessed, and it's it's an awesome way to 917 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: make a living, but it's a very expensive way to 918 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: make a living. 919 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the 920 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: Bobby Cast. 921 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 2: I want to talk about work ethic for a second, 922 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna mention Sam Hunt for a second. 923 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: We went to Western Kentucky. I do a sports thing. 924 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: We were hanging out with the head coach a Western 925 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: Kentucky who is Sam's quarterback Coachka and yeah, and so 926 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I used to coach Sam at 927 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: u AB and you know he's not the head coach 928 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: there now. And he's like, how's Sam doing? And I 929 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: was like what was Sam? This was not even on 930 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: a microphone. I was like, what was Sam like? And 931 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: he was like kind of like he probably is now, 932 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 2: like quiet, dedicated, was going to show up on time 933 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: and get the job done. If I were to ask 934 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: your coach from back then today, if I were to 935 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: see him, like what kind of work ethic did Riley have? 936 00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 937 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: I think that I was always very mindful that I 938 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: wasn't the best. So I think maybe because of that, 939 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 1: I tried to outwork people in some ways. I think 940 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: that that definitely carried over into my music career, is 941 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: being very mindful that there were things that I wasn't 942 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: as good as other people at, but I was always 943 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: I was always very I had a lot in my 944 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: head about what other people thought, being like my dad 945 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: or my grandparents or whoever. It was coming to my 946 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: games and growing up in a small town. I always say, 947 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: you're very much held accountable for how you do anything, 948 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: how you treat people, how you drive down the street. 949 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you cut off somebody's grandmother, you're going 950 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: to see their aunt and when Dixie and they're gonna 951 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, so like that to me, the small town 952 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: made me want to be a hard worker in sports 953 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: and the writing music and you know, building houses for 954 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: a living. That's how you get work as reputation, you know, 955 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's where I got a lot of that. 956 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: Do you get any sort of flag for how old 957 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: are you? 958 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 2: Know? 959 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 3: Thirty five? 960 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: I got married a couple of years ago, but I 961 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: was thirty nine when I got married, and everybody back 962 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: home was like, you're broken or gay because you're not married? 963 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Is everybody where I was from was you got married 964 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: at nineteen twenty. 965 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean not you. 966 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, everybody, my parents and yeah, they were 967 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: convinced the thing that I was off, like intellectually or 968 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: that I just they were like, it's okay if you're gay. 969 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like gay, and if I was, I 970 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: would tell you. 971 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: But I've been called a lot of things. 972 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: But it's like I'm thirty nine and you're thirty five. Yeah. 973 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: I think that now it's probably at least everybody that 974 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: knows me personally has seen what my lifestyle is like 975 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: in the sense of how much I'm gone. 976 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have regular relationships with my friends, 977 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: but what about it at home? 978 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 2: Are they like Riley, well, you know, well you're not 979 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: married because at home they don't see probably what your 980 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: travelfe My mom didn't see my travel. 981 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: Life was like yeah my mom. My mom has my calendar. 982 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah's my mom has been really great about that. 983 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: It's like maybe early on, I'm sure she had a 984 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: little bit of that and was worried about me, you know, 985 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: finding somebody whatever, But now I think she just knows 986 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: that this is such a timely point in my career. 987 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: I've obviously been very blessed and if accomplished things I 988 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: never thought I would. But there's also a lot of 989 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: opportunity that comes with that. And I just kind of 990 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: had in my head when I was going to sign 991 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: a record deal to just put my nose down and 992 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: grind it out and do everything they asked me to 993 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: do anything I could for a couple of years, which 994 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: that's stretched into five now. But I think they get that, 995 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of pressure. I think 996 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: that my lifestyle is going to have to change to 997 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: where I go from playing you know, one hundred and 998 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: twenty shows a year to sixty But. 999 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: What's going to make that happen? 1000 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Though? 1001 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 1002 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: Like, what's what's a fact? 1003 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: That's a great question, because I because it's you know, 1004 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: as you well know, it's up to me. Yep. I 1005 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: mean I could turn down anything I want to. Uh, 1006 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope it's just something clicks and 1007 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: we get to a place where I can say, this 1008 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: is the budget for the year, this is how many 1009 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: shows we can go do it. I'm happy with making 1010 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: this much and this is the career I'm going to 1011 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: have from this. And maybe that's from you know, a 1012 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities not being. 1013 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: Available that are right now. 1014 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a probably one of the more 1015 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: scary things about it is knowing that with this type 1016 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: of travel schedule and lifestyle, I don't really have much 1017 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: chance of beating somebody, and how much things are gonna 1018 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: have to slow down for me to get to that place. 1019 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1020 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: It's also a momentum based industry very much. 1021 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: It's such a battle to stay relevant right probably now 1022 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: more than ever because of all the avenues of new 1023 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: music and a new artist discovery or whatever that is. 1024 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 2: So it feels like if you let up by letting 1025 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 2: something else in regardless of what it is, if it's 1026 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: you want to go away for three months to hunt, 1027 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: or if you want to have a serious relationship, Like 1028 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: you're like, well, if I have dedicated this is the 1029 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 2: struggle that I went through. If I dedicate my time 1030 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: to this, then this is going to suffer. And so 1031 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: I was never going to get married. Just I was 1032 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 2: just like, you know what, I'm never gonna have time 1033 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 2: for it because I also I feel like I am 1034 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: I have a huge imposter syndrome, and like if I 1035 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: don't keep going, I'm never going to get back to 1036 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: this level. And then I met my wife and it 1037 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: was like she kind of boss me out of it, 1038 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: and for the first time ever, I let her because 1039 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: I was happy that I met a person that as 1040 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: much as I was annoyed by it, I was more 1041 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: annoyed by the fact that maybe she. 1042 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be there. 1043 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: And it was the only time and I dated. But 1044 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean it was you know, I'd had my move 1045 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: to Nashville. Holy crap, I never got girls, and I 1046 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: got all the girls at once that it was so 1047 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: it was wild, and then it was but this is weird. 1048 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: And then I was like, I'm never getting married. 1049 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: Who cares? 1050 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: And then I met my wife and I was like, man, 1051 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: I really don't want to slow down. But worse than that, 1052 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to like lose her. That's whomever I 1053 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: don't even know. You're you're you never married, right, never 1054 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: married everything, You're not going to ever go. I only 1055 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: want to make this much money this year. 1056 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just uh, you know, it's a really funny 1057 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: thing to say, probably to my buddies back home from 1058 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: the outside looking in, because they're like, oh, man, Rotherly 1059 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: meets no but where do you really meet a girl? 1060 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: At you know what I mean, where do you get 1061 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 2: to invest time in a human exactly? 1062 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And and you know social media is probably 1063 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: whereas some people would use that to meet people, it's 1064 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: the opposite for me because how do you really use that, 1065 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, with a what I do for a living. 1066 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's an interesting thing. Like I said, I've uh, 1067 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean. 1068 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: I used it, but it wasn't for good. Yeah, Like 1069 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 2: I used it, but it. 1070 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't for meeting somebody to marry, right, it wasn't like 1071 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: long terms. The girls I've met on Instagram probably watched wrestling, 1072 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: and their mom probably let them watch wrestling, so it 1073 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: would never work, or they were wrestlers. Uh. But no, 1074 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: I've I've had a couple of years where we've said, man, 1075 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: let's take off November and and and let me, you know, 1076 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: go hunt just kind of disconnect and write whatever. And 1077 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: we've never taken one off. So it'll it'll it'll be that. 1078 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: I think that I've I've guaranteed myself a career that's 1079 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: more than I've ever thought I would have. Uh. But 1080 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, there's just so much opportunity, and 1081 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: I think the only thing that makes me nervous about 1082 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: my career is not making the absolute most of it, 1083 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: you know, not getting every opportunity that I can. 1084 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: But you're never gonna get every opportunity you can. You're 1085 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: never gonna be able to get to every opportunity I 1086 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: had to. I don't know if you if you go 1087 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: to therapy at all, but god, dang, I thought this 1088 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: was I know that it's probably what this is because 1089 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: I go to like have we go to a couple's 1090 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: counselor and I go to my own and he was like, 1091 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: because I was, I would say that, and I'm a 1092 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 2: little older than you, so I would be like, if 1093 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: I don't take advantage of everything, and he's like, you'll 1094 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: never be able to take advantage of everything, it doesn't matter. 1095 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: You're you're running on a hamster whel that you can 1096 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 2: never get to go fast enough to actually matter. 1097 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it's a little bit of an 1098 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: overthinking type thing. I will say, I'm mindful that there's 1099 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: nothing that I feel like I'm gonna miss. If that 1100 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: makes sense, Like, if my career panned out right now 1101 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: and it is what it is, I can go play 1102 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: shows for the next fifteen years. I would still be 1103 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: very excited about that. So it's not like I'm gonna 1104 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: be leaving something on the table. I just know there's 1105 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: opportunity right now. And it's almost like, I'm sure you 1106 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: were the same way. When I'm sitting around, I'm thinking, man, 1107 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: what could I be doing nothing? That's pretty tough to 1108 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: explain to a girl. Let's say you've gone on a 1109 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: couple of days with and she wants to know why 1110 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: you have a day off and you want to go 1111 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: right or you want to go do this or that, 1112 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, And for me it was hunting. That was 1113 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: a really hard thing to explain, Like why would you 1114 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: want to go sit in the woods by yourself after 1115 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: being on the road for eighty days this year and 1116 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: I haven't found the answer to that. 1117 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: You'll get kicked in the nuts by a girl and 1118 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: she won't care that much about you, and it'll it'll 1119 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 2: like maybe two kicks in the nuts. 1120 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: And then my grandmother Little Jean tells me I never 1121 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: be a girl that will care less than me. 1122 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: I haven't yet, and I never believed it. 1123 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: I was like, this is old old wives tell if 1124 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: you stop trying, then you'll find it. 1125 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, that's whatever. I'm just never gonna 1126 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 3: get married. I'm gonna work. I'm be king dingling to work. 1127 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: And it happened, and I still am like really, so 1128 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: that's what that's what i'd be And now my laugh too, 1129 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome. 1130 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean to. 1131 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: Your point, I think maybe if you met somebody in 1132 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: your early twenties or me, I wouldn't be where I am. 1133 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: So absolutely I did not step some check at twenty 1134 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 2: three years old, some random and trust me, no going 1135 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: to asxt me anyway. So it didn't happen like twice. 1136 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 2: But and I don't mean almost not get some d up, 1137 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean anybody having sex with me. But it'd all 1138 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 2: been different, Everything would have all been different, And so 1139 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: I'm glad I was a complete loser. You don't have 1140 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: to agree with that because you weren't. 1141 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: That's okay. 1142 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: You're cool, you're a big athlete, you play guitar with 1143 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: the grandpa. 1144 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: That's cool a lot. 1145 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: How many kids aren't either, So that's what I'm saying. 1146 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: But I'm going through an agree there. 1147 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to the kids thing now that you're going 1148 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: through with the relationship part, where it's like I don't 1149 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: with kids. I'm like, if I have a kid, I can't, 1150 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 2: I can't. I gotta get off the road. I can't 1151 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,919 Speaker 2: go shoot my sports show. 1152 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 3: I can't go. But it's the same cycle over and 1153 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: over a kiss. 1154 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: Thing, which is is probably a backer's way to think 1155 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: about it, because you should probably look at the girl 1156 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: the same way as the kid. 1157 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 3: But I would I wouldn't want to have a kid 1158 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 3: right now. 1159 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean not that I don't want children, it's just 1160 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: that I know how gone I'm gonna have to tell 1161 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: Absen I would have to be. 1162 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, I would want to be 1163 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: able to have a somewhat normal It's never gonna happen, 1164 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, with you. But what's normal? There's no normal. 1165 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: You're normal. You're normal what you just talked about. Like, 1166 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 2: I know people that grew up in like big cities, 1167 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 2: they would think that like it's like a zoo. Like 1168 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: they would look at you as like somebody in a 1169 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: zoo because they've never seen that kind of life before. 1170 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there is no normal. 1171 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is a lot faster paced and something 1172 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: about how I grew up that was a lot slower 1173 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: in that town. I think there's values there that that 1174 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: I think a kid's gonna get, you know, And that 1175 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: was from spend a lot of time with my grandparents, 1176 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: who was from the accountability, like I said, of being 1177 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: in a small town. And uh, I don't know, there's 1178 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of artists that that. 1179 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 1180 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: I think have managed to have a great career and 1181 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: still have that home lifestyle, you know, and spend a 1182 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of time at home. And Jackson will be in 1183 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: three hours from Nashville. 1184 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 3: You know. 1185 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: I think it's doable. It's just gonna take, you know. 1186 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: I keep saying a couple of years. 1187 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: I said that too, Wait another year, Wait another two years. 1188 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 3: It was never a year thing or it was like 1189 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 3: wait till I have the opposite of council. And this 1190 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 3: made me feel like more nervous than that. It's like 1191 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 3: I live. I lived anxiously forever. 1192 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 2: I was like, wait till I get this much money 1193 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: to bank, and it just mostly had to be the person. Yeah, 1194 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 2: it didn't matter, it didn't matter, you know, this much money, 1195 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 2: this much, but it was a person. 1196 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 3: And then I fought it and I was like, Nope, 1197 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: can't do it. 1198 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 2: But then I was just more upset not being with 1199 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 2: her than I was if I would have not been 1200 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: able to work as much. 1201 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 3: And it's hard suck sometimes because I'm gonna work all 1202 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 3: the time. 1203 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 2: I still have that desire not to work for fun, 1204 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: to work to prove to others that I'm worthy to 1205 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: be here. 1206 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: Well, I can comprehend that too, because I don't have 1207 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: another hobby that would compete with work right now for me, 1208 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: like I like to be on the farm and you know, 1209 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: right around the tractor and you know, clean up some 1210 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: of the property. That's kind of my like project when 1211 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm there, But I don't I'm not like longing for 1212 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: that all the time. It's just something that occupies some thoughts. 1213 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: So you know that and hunting for me, it's really it. 1214 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: So I can see where A would take that, take 1215 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: that place a little bit and make it where you could. 1216 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: You wouldn't mind h being off the road so much. 1217 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 3: It'll be there. 1218 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 2: I'll laugh to him. I'm gonna good laugh at that one. 1219 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 2: You find her and you're like, God, damn. 1220 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: You're probably like ordained or something on Jack, just let you. 1221 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 3: I was at one point. 1222 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if found license is still good, but 1223 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 2: I got ordained years ago. 1224 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 3: It's Internet. 1225 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably like mail in Alabama. 1226 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Uh did you almost not record Grandpa's Never Die? 1227 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 3: But like, what's the story? 1228 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: One of my friends said that he had heard you 1229 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: maybe tell a story somewhere where you almost didn't record it. 1230 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: Well, Uh, what it was was we had my second 1231 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: single was song called in Love by Now. We went 1232 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: and filmed a music video for it, and belize, you know, 1233 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: I had this big role out you went to radio 1234 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: and uh, you know this maybe in the forties, and 1235 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: I wrote, I ice Grandpa's Never Died. Obviously after my 1236 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: gren day, Linden passed away, and I think I got 1237 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: a little drunk. I was done in Georgia, maybe making 1238 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: or somewhere playing a show. And I played it and 1239 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: that video was the one that some you know, somebody 1240 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: on their phone videoed it and got a couple of 1241 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: million views in like a week, and it was it 1242 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: was just a reaction, like to to every line in 1243 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: that song for the first time people hear it, you know, 1244 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: and you know that's that's a unique thing. So I 1245 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: went and played the West Virginia State Fair about two 1246 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: weeks later. I'd never played in West Virginia. And there's 1247 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: a video of this on my Instagram, but they screamed 1248 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: everywhere and it was off of a video is where 1249 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: they learned it wouldn't record or anything. 1250 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 3: So I called labels, I we got. 1251 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: To cut this. I don't I don't know if it's 1252 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: a radio single or what, but it's and of course, 1253 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: you know it. It became took the place of that 1254 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: single and became my biggest song. 1255 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 3: So I don't know that I ever. 1256 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: I certainly it wasn't thinking about recording it when I 1257 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 1: wrote it, but it raised his hand from the first 1258 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: time I played it, you know it kind of you 1259 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: can't really argue with that. 1260 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna be wild that you don't record a 1261 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: song but you're playing it and people know it. That 1262 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: they're watching some recorded video with not the greatest audio 1263 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: of you just was awful. 1264 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be honest with you, I watched that 1265 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: video so many times to try to figure out what 1266 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: about it, because I mean, I knew the song made 1267 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: me feel some type of motion. I can comprehend how 1268 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: it can make somebody else feel something, but I couldn't 1269 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: forge out why if somebody watched that video over and 1270 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: over again, you know, like for me, if I'm scrolling 1271 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 1: through Instagram and something calls that, I'll turn it off, 1272 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: like I can't. You know, it just was horrible quality. 1273 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: But at the same time, a lot of the songs 1274 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: I recorded early on were not very good production. And 1275 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: I think that the you know, the story or the 1276 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: lyric or whatever that emotion people are getting from it 1277 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: is is they kind of overlook a lot of stuff. 1278 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: And that was a that was the first time I'd ever. 1279 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: Seen that with a song. It was it was it 1280 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: was pretty cool to. 1281 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 2: Watch what's that Duckman jam? Like, what's what's the difference 1282 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: in that the one you step at your house? 1283 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: Uh Duckman jams will be a lot more organized, very 1284 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: certain uh duck Man to well, obviously my Instagram name 1285 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: was Riley Duckman. I think from duck Hunt. That kind 1286 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: of became a little bit of my uh nickname or 1287 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And Uh, I grew 1288 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: up going to the floor watching a lot of artists 1289 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: down there. I'm sure you've been down there at some point. 1290 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: Learned a lot about kind of trying to win over 1291 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: a touristy crowd, you know, from watching people play down. 1292 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 2: There and play And she doesn't want to really be 1293 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 2: one over. That's right, Yeah, And I. 1294 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: Think those were the most helpful and beneficial shows for 1295 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: me in my career was those acoustic shows. You played 1296 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: for four hours, you take four or fifteen minute breaks, 1297 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: and you get one drink per break, and I think 1298 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: we made one hundred dollars. And I would I played 1299 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: every day for three weeks one year during just every 1300 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: college just bring break from twelve to four on the 1301 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: beach under a little tent and just gotten to be 1302 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: really good buddies with the owner down there and some 1303 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: of the guys that run that place. And we've done 1304 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: the wharf, but I just really wanted to go do 1305 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: something on the beach in front of the floor of BAMA. 1306 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,919 Speaker 1: The last show we played before COVID shut us down 1307 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: was on the beach. So we're gonna go do two nights. 1308 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: It's April twelfth and thirteenth. 1309 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: I think it is. 1310 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: Tracy, Lawrence, La Langley, Jake Worthington, Drake White h and 1311 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 1: do you know ten thousand people on the beach two 1312 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: nights in a row. It's be a good time. That's 1313 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. 1314 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 1315 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast. 1316 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 3: Uh, you and Luke. 1317 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 2: You know, Luke hopped on a different round here, but 1318 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 2: that song was recorded by you. I know we've talked 1319 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 2: about this a bit on the show, on the radio show. 1320 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: But so you have that song, you recorded the song, 1321 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: and then you go back and ask Luke to come 1322 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: on it, right? 1323 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 3: Is that? Is that how it happened? Like, hey, that 1324 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 3: we hop on it. 1325 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: It's probably supposed to be done through the proper channels 1326 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: and management and everything else. But I just texted Luke. 1327 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: We were really talking about what the next single is 1328 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: going to be, and that song has always raised his 1329 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: hand to me, it's a hit song at my shows, 1330 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: it always has been. And uh, I just kind of 1331 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: mentioned the label maybe we go back to this one. 1332 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously Grandpaul's shook up what was my next single? 1333 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: And and this and that. So I just texted Luke 1334 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: said you have any interest being on this song? Obviously 1335 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: buddies with Luke have been for a while. But I 1336 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: also kind of knew that me being on a stadium 1337 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: tour then would probably be a great end for that 1338 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: to be something they would be motivated to do, you know. 1339 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: Knowing that we're all trying to sell tickets to the 1340 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: same tour and my success was somewhat his success at 1341 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: that time. And I mean, you know, I hope he 1342 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: enjoyed the song. I don't think he would have done 1343 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: it otherwise. It was definitely a very beneficial for me 1344 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: to have him on it and gave that song a 1345 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: second life and came of my third number one. 1346 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 3: So they just send you the track when he was 1347 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 3: done with it. 1348 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: The first I've done several features, you know, did have 1349 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: me with Thomas Rhett that we sang together. That day, 1350 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: I did a song with Justin Moore. We sang on 1351 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: the same microphone, which you know, was like ible think 1352 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: we was standing on a chair maybe, you know, but 1353 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: I've done somewhere. We just send him, you know, in 1354 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: the song with Jelly Roll. You know, he's so busy 1355 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: right now, it's for us to get together. Was tough, 1356 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, I just into Luke and he sent it 1357 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: back with Yeah. 1358 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 3: My question is the first time you heard it was awesome. 1359 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Well, I mean, especially from a songwriter standpoint, 1360 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: it probably like every songwriter in town. I've never had 1361 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: an outside cut, you know, I've written on my own songs. 1362 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: But to hear somebody like that, especially somebody you're a 1363 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: fan of, and somebody with that kind of vocals sing 1364 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: a song that you wrote, you know, and better than 1365 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: me by far, you know, So it was it was 1366 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: really cool to hear that and definitely was was exactly 1367 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: what that song needed. 1368 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 3: I want to ask you one more thing about the 1369 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 3: Buford Bond Fund. What what like? What does that do? 1370 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: I know it's military at your grandpa too, right, Like, 1371 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 2: why was this important. 1372 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 3: To you to create that? Well? 1373 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,959 Speaker 1: Uh, I've done a lot of been fortunate in my career, 1374 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 1: been able to do a lot of things with Saint 1375 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: Jude and and and you know, the military has obviously 1376 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: been a huge part of my life with my both 1377 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: my granddaddy servant, but also just you know, how I 1378 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: write songs, what I write about, and what I feel 1379 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: like is important to spend my time doing. And what 1380 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: was great about doing having my own foundation is I 1381 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: can kind of steer it in any direction I want 1382 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: to throughout the year. So something comes up, you know, 1383 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: some stuff with Habitat for Humanity, which is great for 1384 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: me because you know, being a homebuilder. It was awesome 1385 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: to go outside of Nashville, and my dad and aunt 1386 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: and uncle mom come up. They all got hard hats 1387 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: on and tool belts and we're out there working. And 1388 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: it's just been cool to me to be able to 1389 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: see some of the ways that you can use, you 1390 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: know what's a pretty awesome way to be able to 1391 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: make a living to help other organizations. So I like 1392 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: the freedom that be for Bond's Foundation allows me to 1393 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: be able to kind of go in any direction. That's 1394 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: kind of on my heart at that time. 1395 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 3: You have the next single? Was it ready damn good 1396 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 3: day to leave? 1397 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: Yep? 1398 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 3: Is that out? I mean people know that, they know 1399 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 3: it now? Yeah? 1400 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: Man, what's cool about it is uh, I've yea. Now 1401 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,479 Speaker 1: they know Eric Dillon who wrote there was This Girl 1402 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: with Me and that was his first number one. He's 1403 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: also on this song with me and a kid that 1404 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 1: I signed to a Pubish deal named Nick Walsh, who 1405 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of. I got to tell them 1406 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: that they were getting a single radio and it'd be 1407 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: Nick's first and Eric's second. So that was cool. Man. 1408 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 1: That's a different side of this business that I wasn't 1409 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: really aware of. 1410 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 2: You guys can follow Riley at Riley Duckman or Duckman, Duckman, 1411 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: mister Duckman, Riley Duckman, which I thought for a while 1412 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: that was your name, Riley. 1413 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: I still I don't know who I told the story to, 1414 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: but they call me Duckman every time I see him. 1415 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: Was I pulled up at the Opry one time and 1416 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: the valet guy came out, got opened the door, said, oh. 1417 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: Are you mister Duckman? I guess I was you are? 1418 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: Do you work for me for a bit too? Yeah, 1419 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 2: good to see you, man. I appreciate the time. Congratulations 1420 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 2: on all the success. 1421 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 3: And you know you'll be hearing from me. 1422 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, let's let's talk. I'll have a lot of No. 1423 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 3: You'll be hearing from me. 1424 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 2: When you get kicked in the nights, I'll be like 1425 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: I told you, that's what I was going to take. 1426 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh call you. 1427 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be hearing from me. All right, there is 1428 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 3: Riley Duckman. Riley, mister Duckman. 1429 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.