1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation 4 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Lushooler and Matt Williamson 5 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: with you here on a Friday where Matt, it is 6 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: not the result we wanted. It is not the mood 7 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: that we were hoping to meet in as the Steelers 8 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: follow the Bengals thirty three to thirty one. And hey, 9 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: weird things happen in divisional games. Weird things happen on 10 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Thursday nights. But I did not see it going down 11 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: like that. I did not. If you would have told 12 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: me before the game, the Steelers are going to score 13 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: thirty one points, I would have been like, easy, easy win. Yeah, 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean Cincinnati will get twenty. Yeah, you know, it's 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: not like they're going to blow him out. But thirty 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: one points, that'll absolutely be enough to beat this team. 17 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: And it was not as as that Steelers defense gave 18 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: up thirty three to the Joe Flacco, Jamar Chase T 19 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: Higgins and that Bengals offense. 20 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a couple of things. Forty nine percent of 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: the game was great. Fifty one percent of it wasn't 22 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: and obviously it would. That line of demarcation was depending 23 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: who had the fort. 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: Like an election, you know, all you got to do 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: is get fifty one percent of the people to vote 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: for and you control the country. 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: Yep. 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: And the offense Steeler offense made a few more mistakes 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: than the Bengals offense in a pure shootout that you 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: couldn't afford to happen. Now it's a loss, So I 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: think you start with the negatives and going into the game. 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Something we talked about a lot were, man, there's not 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: many matchups to favor the Bengals here, you know, but 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: if they're you know, we often have the conversation, how 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: can the Steelers lose this game? 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: Or what could derail them? 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: And the couple things that I stood out were Higgins 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: and Chase Higgins and Chase Higgins and Chase of course, 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that's the lowest of hanging fruit Steelers 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: on the road in division game Thursday night. You know, 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: that hasn't been great. And the thing that we talked 42 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: about with Merrill Hodge all the time is, you know, 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: never underestimate a wounded or embarrassed professional athlete, you know, 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: And it was kind of the all the above. And 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to blame the It seems too easy 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: or too kind to the defense to blame short week 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: on the road, agreed, And I'm not going to use 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: that as an excuse. But they did not have the 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: energy and juice that they have the past two weeks 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: on that side of the. 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: Ball at all. 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: I mean just getting off the ball, They getting guys 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: the ball, you know, aggression, violence, hitting, tackling. 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Now it's on excuse you gotta win. Yeah, that's how 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: the league is. 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: I think with some context too of a lot of 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: those guys were sitting down the stretch against the Browns 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: on Sunday, Yeah yeah, yeah, right. A lot of those 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: guys probably got ten snaps less in that Cleveland game 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: than they would have if that was a one possession game. 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: You know, Like Watt had something going on at the 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: end of that that Browns game that wasn't really reported. 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: But he wasn't really himself last night, you know. But again, 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: these are on the. 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: Defense, right right. Cam Hayward had been playing very well. 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Didn't see it last night. Nick Herbig had been inevitable 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: quiet last night. I thought Patrick Queen was off to 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: a fantastic start this season, didn't play well last night, 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: and then of course whoever you want to talk about 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: in the secondary. 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: Nobody's happy that it was. 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Nowhere close to good enough. And again you and I 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: said plenty of times leading up to that game, Jamar 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Chase is going to make some place. T Higgins is 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: going to make some place. Those guys are superstars. Those 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: guys are gazillionaires for a real pros and pro bowlers, 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase is going to be in Canton one 78 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: day for a reason. But my goodness, Matt sixteen receptions 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixty one yards, three targets on 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: twenty three target targets. He had twelve target twelve targets 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: in the first half, eleven in the second half. 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, now, that was horrific. I mean, the passing the past. 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: It expected that the change in the second half, because 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: that's one thing they did do a good job of 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: last year. We talked about that a ton, and they'll 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: build up to this season. Best third quarter differential in 87 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: the NFL last yeah. 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And a huge part. 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: Of that was those halftime adjustments, particularly on defense last 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: year didn't see it at all last night. 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: No, well yes, and no. It bothers me that I apologize. 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm lumping some of you together for Joe, not you. 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the common fan will just be like 94 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Chase is lighting you up. So obviously they made no adjustments. 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: They tried different things. 96 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: They did. 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: Nothing worked. Nothing worked. I mean, I would have liked 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: to see more press. 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: Coverage the one and we're recording. 100 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: This is kind of a weird time. 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: I've not watched the All twenty two, Like, yeah, they 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: played man, but off man. They were just running right 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: in front, you know, just an out route right in 104 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: front of you. I mean, what's the difference of you know. 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: So they did try different people, and they did try 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: different things, and the ball came out really quick two 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: point four seconds. Give Flacco credit. I mean, it's hard 108 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: to disrupt things, but when you saw the ball coming 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 3: out that quick, put your hands on. Disrupt the routes 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more. There was too much free releases 111 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: from my opinion, just watching TV tape now. Sometimes in 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: this league or in any sport, you know, you just go, 113 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: holy cow, that guy's the best day who done the 114 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: ice and he's an unstoppable force and that was Chase Sure, 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: and that's not okay, but it happens once in a while. 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: We go that dude's special, and he's special, but the 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: run defense. 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: That bothers me more. That would to me, that's the sin. 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Chase Brown was averaging fourteen point eight yards per carry at. 120 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: The half, right right, I almost want to eight holes. 121 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: You know this, I'm assuming a lot of the listeners 122 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: do I do the halftime reports from the stadiums wherever 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: we're at, and one of this. You know, it's like 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: a scoring recap segment where we play highlights, then it's 125 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: an around the league segment, then it's a stats segment, okay, 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: and so it's always it's happens very quickly. Obviously it's halftime. 127 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: It's like three four minute segments, and so the stats segment, 128 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't really kind of deep dive look at him. 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: You probably described three or four until the two. 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: And a half minutes that I have in break right 131 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: before we go to the final stats segment. Okay, okay, 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: And I was like this, I'm looking at the iPad 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: that we have there in the booth always with our stats. 134 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, this can't be right. Chase Brown is not 135 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: averaging fourteen point eight yards per carry carry. A statistician 136 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: that travels with us Denny postofka, great guy, I'm like 137 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: dead eight. I'm like yelling at the back. They're all 138 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: back there having skyline chili dogs. At half, I'm I'm 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: like dead eight. This can't be right. It comes over 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: and he's like, no. 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: That's right, that's exactly what happened. 142 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: And he finished with nine point eight. So, I mean, 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: it got a little bit better in the second half, 144 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: but that's. 145 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: Still unacceptable, especially for where that running game was. 146 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: One hundred and eight yards on eleven carries. 147 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it wasn't like he busted one eighty yarder 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: and the cup of and check he. 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: Did thirty seven yarder. But that's not that's not that 150 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: that's not an eighty yard outlier. 151 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't like, well, okay, we had won bad. 152 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Believen Samashi p Ryme was going for four and a 153 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: half yards, big holes, and they were typically in those 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: short yardage situations where he needed two yards and he 155 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: got five every time. 156 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: And the tackling was really poor. 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Again, that was something I had in my notes to 158 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: bring up with you after that was an issue. At 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: the start of the season, it felt like it was 160 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. The last couple of night 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: absolute went back to being an issue big time again. 162 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: Last night, and I really hesitate to keep bringing it up. 163 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: But you do often see really bad tackling on Thursday 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: night games period. I mean, how many times he was 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry on Thursday night stiff arming Jags and Titans. 166 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: And you know, right, I mean again, that's not okay. 167 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: It's one of the reason I hate Thursday football is 168 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: you don't give many guys to the ball. You don't 169 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: arrive with as much aggression. You know, you're just a 170 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: little off. It's not okay, though, It's it's just not okay. 171 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: And again, that was not I did a show with 172 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: triv you know, it wasn't Jim Brown, Chase Brown. 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: No. And I said this to you guys before we 174 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: started recording. We knew that they were going to make 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: some place. Yeah, you combine it's in their place, which, 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: by the way, they had that whole white out thing. 177 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: The place was jumping, it was loud, it was. 178 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: It seemed that way. They were ready to go. 179 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: It was like a collegiate type atmosphere. They were they 180 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: were ready to go. As you mentioned, wounded animal, embarrassed animal. 181 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: If we lose this, we fall to two and five 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: in our seasons. Oh yeah, there's a huge Like we'll 183 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: talk about this with the Steelers. There's a massive difference 184 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: between five and one and four and two. 185 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: Oh, there's a division. So happy it went this way. 186 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: There's a massive difference for the Bengals between three and 187 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: four and two and five. 188 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: That's a difference of trading. Trade Henderson to Mark. 189 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. You combine all those things. It 190 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: was never going to be. Let's stroll in there and 191 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: win by three touchdowns and this will be easy, and we'll. 192 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: We'll be everyone in their building knew they had. 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: We'll beat them thirty to ten, you know what I mean, 194 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: or twenty seven to ten or something like that. But 195 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: it also, Matt should not cannot Thursday night. I don't 196 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: care if you're playing against the greatest show on turf. 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Montana and Rice. 198 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't care. 199 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: If it's a double header from Sunday and you're so 200 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: tired you can't even walk. 201 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: They scored on seven straight possessions. 202 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like that. 203 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: That cannot happen. That that just point blank, and I 204 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: believe I gotta double check this. I'm running on like 205 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: three hours of sleep. Wasn't it their last seven possessions 206 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: of the game. They scored on all straight of their 207 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: last seven possessions of the game. 208 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: I think so, yes, Like yeah, no. 209 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: Sorry, they had one punt in there. Seven of their 210 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: last eight possessions result in point resulted in points. Field 211 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: goals are touchdowns. Again, I don't care if you're playing 212 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: Montana in right. That can't happen. 213 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: It can't happen. It can't happen. 214 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: And Chase is Rice, you know, yeah, I mean, that's 215 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: the level of player he is. But you made it 216 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: too easy on Joe, I mean. And so I didn't 217 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: bring this up yet because I've been on a bunch 218 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: of stuff when I've got up a couple of times. 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: But I did a. 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: National show this morning, locked on NFL, where I'm just 221 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: a guest one day a week. So we opened obviously 222 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: every Friday was a Thursday night, and my co host 223 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: has no skin in the game. You know, he knows 224 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: I'm a steel guy, of course, and he went, man, 225 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: that was a really enjoyable game of course, if you 226 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: if you don't. 227 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Care when in Chicago or Detroit or yeah, Cleveland or Baltimore. 228 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: Or fat's a fantasy guy or a better or just 229 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: a fan, it is a really enjoyable game. 230 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. 231 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: And he's like, I thought that was a master class 232 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: in quarterbacking. You know that you could see their experience totally. 233 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: And you know we were talking about some younger quarterbacks. 234 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: He's like, Caleb William should watch that game, you know, 235 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: like they just took what was there, boom boom? Yeah 236 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: game and Flacco still can't do that, and I didn't 237 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: know that he could, you know, I mean, he had 238 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: one good half against Green Bay really for the last 239 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: year and a half or so, and I'm like, Joe's done. 240 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: But it's the Toby Keith thing for him, like rights 241 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: good ones as I ever was. 242 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: I remember this Tomlin rival and I've played a lot 243 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 4: of games against Steelers and my team needs me bad 244 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: and throwing to Chase and Higgins is a lot more 245 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: fun than being a Brown. 246 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: You know, let's make a run at this thing. I 247 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: got Burrow in my quarterback room. He happened at me 248 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: to save the season. Might let's step it up, you know, 249 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: and he did. 250 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: You would still see that from Ben from time to 251 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: time the game of his career. 252 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: You know. 253 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Uh you referenced Lemieux earlier, like he when he was 254 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: forty coming back from his third retirement and you know, 255 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: like seventeenth major health issue, he would still have a 256 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: three point. You know, he'd go out there and have 257 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: two goals and assist that he'd be flying around and 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: looking like he was, you know, the best player in 259 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: the world for a couple of minutes. 260 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: Jordan doesn't dunk from the foul line anymore, but he spots. 261 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: You Lebron Ron once in a while, still dunk on something, 262 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, exactly right. Steph Curry will still 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: pull up from his from his own free throw line. 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: And we've seen it all year with Rogers, which has 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: been a. 266 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: Blast exactly we saw them Flacca. 267 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. And you know, Matt in a game 268 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: like that, kind of the ultimate minutia is the turnover 269 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: battle and you lose it definitively. 270 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were talking about it before the air, 271 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: and we talked about it on the show that I 272 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: just recorded. I thought was gonna blow him out. I mean, 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: when we were like two series in Yes, and then 274 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: you just made a couple of little mistakes, you know, 275 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: a penalty at the wrong time or settling for a 276 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: field goal. Like I felt like you could have buried 277 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: them early. And the Steelers from from Perzuda, he said, 278 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: you missed, you almost had the knockout in the first round. Yeah, 279 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: and then you lost the fifteenth round. I was like that, 280 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: you said, it's so perfect. 281 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it. I blame Rob King. 282 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: After the Steelers made that field goal to go up 283 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: ten nothing and we went to commercial break, he looked 284 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: around at all of us in the booth, Max Starks, myself, 285 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: our producer Dan, our stats guy Denny. He was like, 286 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I didn't Steelers might blow this team out tonight. 287 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 4: I almost tweeted it. 288 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: But that was you go up ten, you fall behind ten, 289 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: you scratch back in it and take the lead, and 290 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: then just the the ultimate frustrating ending. As you mentioned, 291 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: a very entertaining football game. Yeah, if you're watching that 292 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia or Dallas or Kansas City, you're like, this 293 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: is a great Thursday night games. 294 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 4: Entertaining between two you know, and. 295 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: At quarterback. Absolutely, but man, for us It's one of 296 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: those games too, Matt, that like, it's almost if you 297 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: just find a way to hold on at the end, 298 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: all of your sins are excused because you can play 299 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: the it's a weird Thursday on a road back to 300 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: back divisional. 301 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: Games, exactly what saying. 302 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: Just got out of there with a win and that's 303 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: all that matters. And now you got a long week 304 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: to prepare for the Packers at five and one. 305 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: That's one of the things that bothers me a little 306 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: about our profession is if, by chance they the Bengals 307 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: drop a pass, or. 308 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: God forbid, they shanked that field goal, right. 309 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy just misses the field goal, it hits. 310 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: A Fitzpatrick a few years ago, blocks the extra point 311 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: at the right end. 312 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: Right, and like if gets hand up here or this 313 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: guy gangs it off the off the upright, doesn't mean 314 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: one bit that the Steelers played any better, correct, But myself, 315 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: you every analyst out here would be like, they got away. 316 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: That's good, Roger victory. 317 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: For one hundred and twenty seven yards. 318 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: They still didn't tackle or do anything to slow down 319 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. No matter what, you know, the game really 320 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: didn't This what we watched. Isn't any different, you know. 321 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: I mean t Higgins six receptions for ninety six yards. 322 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: The two tight ends go seven receptions for over ninety yards, 323 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: and Fan forty nine yards and forty four yards between 324 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: the two of them, So almost one hundred for those 325 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: two matt the average receptions for these guys Jamar Chase 326 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: ten point one per reception, T Higgins sixteen yards, Yoshavah 327 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: sixteen point three, Noah Fan eleven. Like, Oh, it's it's 328 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: just it's it's terrible to look at on paper. The 329 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: eye test wasn't much better. You only get two sacks. 330 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: You needed that number to be higher, you know, no 331 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: turnovers forced. You needed that to at least be one 332 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: or two. You had some big plays wiped out by penalties. 333 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, was one was one? 334 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: Was one? Was the hold on the Warren touchdown that 335 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: ended up you had to settle for a field goal? 336 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Was there another on a was it on a special 337 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: teams or again, it's it's so tough. Last night, we 338 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: haven't had time to rewatch the game, and I think 339 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: I got home at about three am. Yeah, yeah, from Cincinnati. 340 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: We're both on on on a lack of I was. 341 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: Just pulling up numbers while you were talking about their receivers, though, 342 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: and everyone on the planet realized, Wow, Chase was a monster, 343 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: and he is, he's great, but this is almost hard 344 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: to wrap your head around. I mean, his average depth 345 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: of hard it was just under seven yards, so we 346 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: knew the ball was coming out quick. I mean it 347 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: was two point four seconds for Joe last night. 348 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: I mean he. 349 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: Two two's like unsackable. Under two five is considered a 350 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: quick pressure. Under two four, I mean two fours really humming. 351 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: That does not paint a pretty picture. 352 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: So Chase was not just destroying you downfield. I mean 353 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: his average throw to him was slightly under seven yards downfield, yet. 354 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: He's turning it into over ten yards when you. 355 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Really reduce it to the common denominator yards per route run, 356 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean per route there's many routes that the ball 357 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: doesn't go to him. Even though he got twenty three target, 358 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: he was producing three point three three point three five 359 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: yards per route run despite not having a high average 360 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: of target at all. So it's just constant, you know, 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: It's just every time two yards is really really good. 362 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: That almost like breaks analytical announlymis That's what I mean. 363 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: I know that that's a hard thing to wrap your 364 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: because you aren't used to those numbers. 365 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: If football had like a wins above replacement stat that 366 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: can break the system. 367 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: The system right like we're throwing short and he's producing 368 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: on a per route basis over and over and over 369 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: and over and a really high level. 370 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: That's a great stat pool by you. We'll continue to 371 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: talk about all those things with the Queen of the Sideline. 372 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: She was down there and in the trenches last night. 373 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: She'll help us paint the picture. We'll talk to Missy 374 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 2: Matthews when we return. On the other side. 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You gotta 386 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: get Missy's walk up music. Sorry about that. Missy, not 387 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: to you know, throw you off anymore. Here on a 388 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: Friday where we all we slept for about ninety minutes. 389 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: It is the queen of the sideline, Missy Matthews with 390 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: us here on the drive. Missy. I gotta imagine on 391 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: a night like that for the defense, where there were 392 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: many issues they weren't getting after Joe Flacco, they weren't 393 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: forcing turnovers, the communication didn't seem to be spot on. 394 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: What was kind of the temperature like on the sideline 395 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: throughout that one last night, and you know, particularly towards 396 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: the end of the game. 397 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 5: I mean you definitely it was bad. Yes, you did 398 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 5: not see like in house fighting per se. It was 399 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 5: just a lot of like almost disbelief in a way 400 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: that you can go you know, the prior games of 401 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 5: five plus sacs, creating turnovers, just really being able to 402 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 5: mess with opposing offenses to last night where it just 403 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: felt like Joe Flacco and Jamar Chase and t Higgins 404 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: and Chase Brown and company could really do whatever they 405 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: wanted and were dictating things. So I do think, you know, 406 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: it was a lot of disbelief, headshaking, trying to regroup, 407 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 5: trying to rally the troops trying to like look at 408 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 5: what happened and trying to fix it. It just felt 409 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 5: like there was not anything that could happen to do 410 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 5: that with Yeah, I don't think they did. I mean 411 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 5: I certainly did, because you're just like, come on, guys, 412 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 5: like especially at the end, you know, whenever Friar Muth 413 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 5: is able to get that second touchdown, and but it 414 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 5: did just feel like they weren't able to get off 415 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: the field and it just felt like a little splint 416 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: would turn into a big thing, and not being able 417 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: to also stop the run, it just it felt disjointed. 418 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 5: I guess it is probably the best way to put it. 419 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 5: But they didn't they I wouldn't say the players and 420 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 5: team felt helpless. They were trying everything, you know, but 421 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: it wasn't screaming at each other or anything like that, 422 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 5: which I don't know. Maybe in a situation like that 423 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: you need that as well. But it was Yeah, it 424 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 5: was rough to watch for sure. 425 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: So did you also have the feeling early, boy, the 426 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: Steelers might run away with this. I mean, when it 427 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: was ten to nothing, I thought, man, Steelers the Bengal 428 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: the better team. Bengals have had a rough year. It 429 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: could be over quick. 430 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: No, because I'm a pessimist, Okay, so I always worry 431 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 5: about things. Maybe a little part of me did, But 432 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: I did think that they were doing things on offense 433 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: where I'm like, that's cute, that's a that would work 434 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 5: if it did. But at the same time, like why 435 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: just keep getting points even if it's a field goal, 436 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like, just as your total 437 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 5: it was still so early in the game, and then 438 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: it was what twenty unanswered points, You're just like, oh boy, title, 439 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: something needs to yeah, yeah, and it was. It happened quick, 440 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 5: and it just felt like they were not able to 441 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: stop it or in terms of the defense, and then 442 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 5: on offense they just were not able to get down 443 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: the field and get points. 444 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: Missy. One thing that I was encouraged by was, you know, 445 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: we saw I think some guys that we had been 446 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: waiting to have a breakout type game have breakout type games, 447 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: namely Pat Fryermouth I mean five receptions one hundred and 448 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: eleven yards, the two touchdowns, and Jalen Warren as well 449 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: to sixteen carries one hundred and twenty seven yards seven 450 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: point nine yards per carry for him. The Steelers as 451 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: a team seven point four yards. Yeah, that is exactly 452 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: what we've been looking for. And it was nice to 453 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: see it from from thirty and eighty eight last night. 454 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and Max kept saying it on the broadcast, But 455 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: it is exactly what I was thinking. Friarmouth always has 456 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 5: a big game in Cincinnati. Yeah, and who the quarterback is. 457 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: You know, it was with Tunny Pickett, he did it 458 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 5: with Rustlash. It's just it's something about Cincinnati, specifically in 459 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: Cincinnati that he just goes off. And I did feel like, 460 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: you know, he was due for a breakout game of 461 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: you know, not being so involved in the offenses vire 462 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 5: accustomed to him seeing. I mean, I think he had 463 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: seven touchdowns his rookie with Ben. You know, this is 464 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 5: a guy that was there's a reason why they gave 465 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: him a contract. So it was good to see that 466 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 5: that sort of worked. And it is odd because, like 467 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 5: you said, he had a great game Jalen Warren, but 468 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: when you look at the offense or like, but it 469 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 5: didn't feel like a great game. And I think it 470 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: was a lot of the possession downs, you know, the 471 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: the weight he downs his coach Tomlin calls them, and 472 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: their inability to like get into this rhythm that felt 473 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 5: that it carried over from drive to drive. So it 474 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: kind of stinks for those guys that they had great 475 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 5: games and such a game that was almost like defeating. 476 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 5: Doesn't you look at the score You're like, oh, it 477 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: was close, It's like it didn't feel like it was close. 478 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: So I often ask you about Aaron Rodgers because I'm 479 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 3: so fascinated with him as a human, as a professional, 480 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: as a future Hall of Famer, as an all time great, 481 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: And it seemed just watching TV as a lot of 482 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: our listeners probably were that boy, he seemed, as usual, 483 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: in complete control, total command, understood how to attack the defense. 484 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: But I think it was also pretty clear that there 485 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: were at least a handful of times that he was 486 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: frustrated with his teammates, you know, for screwing something up. 487 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Like I mean you saw like on the 488 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: flee flicker, like he immediately you know, started talking to 489 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: Jalen on the field, and then it carried over off 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: the field. Not in in a bad manner. I think 491 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: he is you know, as you said, he diagnoses things 492 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 5: so well, he sees things. He is a perfectionist. He 493 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: wants everybody to be on the same page to communicate, 494 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: to be perfect too, and it's clear that when there 495 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 5: is miscommunication or one person does the wrong thing, a 496 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: play breaks down and it can end badly, which unfortunately 497 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 5: for the offense, that happened several times yesterday. But then 498 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 5: it's you know, they go over to the field, he's 499 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: looking at the surface. Jalen Warren comes over, you know, 500 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: he literally told him something. You know, I'm reading his 501 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: lips like, that's on me, sorry, gave him a handshake, 502 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 5: Arthur Smith kind of padded Jalen on the back. He 503 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 5: went back over by the riding backs, Aaron and Arthur Smith, 504 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 5: and you know, the quarterbacks and quarterback coach continue to 505 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: like go over things. So yeah, I mean even you know, 506 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 5: when the touchdown happened, and he is doing his like 507 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: jumping almost like it reminds me of like Mario almost 508 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: with like his hands and how he jumps celebration after 509 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 5: that touchdown, and then Broderick kind of like cackled him. 510 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah that social media. Yeah no, And it was weird 511 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: because I was clearly like on the Steeler sideline, so 512 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 513 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: Seeing it where I could see Aaron's face when it happened, 514 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: and I saw it live and I'm like, what are 515 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: they doing? And I said, you know, to one of 516 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 5: the guys on the sideline, like are they fighting? And 517 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: he's like, no, I don't know because I didn't see 518 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: how they got to the ground, but he looked mad. 519 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: And then everyone's like, oh, no, they're good. And then 520 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron was very excited after that happened, even 521 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: when he came over to the sideline, But then I 522 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 5: saw the clip on social medium, like, oh okay, my 523 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 5: first instinct was right. He was not too happy about 524 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: being taken to the ground by Brodrick Joe. So yeah, 525 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 5: he is one of those guys where I think, you know, 526 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 5: he wears his emotions on his sleeve, you know, where 527 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 5: he stands. It's not like he's sugarcoats things, which I 528 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 5: think is what this offense needs and has needed as 529 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: we've seen kind of this evolution of them, especially you know, 530 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: just from what last year was to this year. You 531 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 5: talk about scoring on opening drive, it's like not just 532 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 5: scoring on opening drives, but like scoring touchdowns on opening drives. 533 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of good, but it just felt 534 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 5: like last night was a very disjointed performance. 535 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 2: I think that's a very good way to put it. 536 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Missy Matthews, the Queen of the Sideline, kind enough to 537 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: give us some of her time here on a few 538 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: hours of sleep on this Friday. Missy, thank you as always, 539 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: enjoy the weekend, get some rest, and we'll talk to 540 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: you next week. 541 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: All right, sounds good, guys, you too, there. 542 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: She goes Missy Matthews. And yeah, I mean, so game ends, okay, 543 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: and I think I've kind of walked you through this before, 544 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: but game ends, and it's like a mad rush for us. 545 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: And yeah, so. 546 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: We got to clean everything up, break everything down, and 547 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: we've got like twenty minutes to get from exactly right 548 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: the buses are leaving to the plane with or without us, 549 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 2: and so we've got to get the equipment packed up. 550 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: We've got to get it to the elevator and all 551 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: the way downstairs into the Steelers equipment truck. And then 552 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: you usually want to like grab some food or something 553 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: you're yeah, because you're you're starving and getting you know, 554 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: getting on the bus and on the plane and all 555 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: that stuff. So that whole whirlwind happens. I get some food, 556 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: get on the bus, all that and you finally kind 557 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: of like breathe for a second, and I looked at 558 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: my phone. You know, my first thing I do is 559 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: pop up on Twitter, and it is just that Proger 560 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: Jones and Aaron Rodgers clip every everything, everything, every third 561 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: tweet in my feed was was was somebody sharing that one. 562 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if I misunderstood Missy talking about it live, 563 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: but she said it sounded. 564 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: Like he got over it real quick. 565 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was just like, what are you doing, idiot? 566 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: Don't you know? Boys being boys almost type of thing? 567 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Right, Like I'm old and I get tackled enough, don't 568 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: do that right, And it's. 569 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: It's also it's one of those things too that like 570 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: you hold on and you win that game, and that 571 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: becomes kind of like funny bonding rally. So much of yesterday, 572 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: if you hold on to win that game becomes a 573 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: bonding rally. Nothing nothing went our way. We couldn't stop 574 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: the run, we couldn't stop the past, we weren't forcing turn. 575 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: Just like we talked about last segment, if the kicker 576 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: hits you upright as opposed to going down the middle. 577 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 3: All that stuff's funny, you know, and it doesn't mean 578 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: it's corrected. 579 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Funny, how like I amuse like a clown? Well funny, 580 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: how that's so funny, Matt, I do have a not 581 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: so funny stat to run by you. And our final 582 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: segment here of the final hour, we'll do that talk more. 583 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: We'll just rapid game reaction. I mean this is I 584 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: feel like we'll do a game rewind on Monday since 585 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: we have more time next week, you and I will 586 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: both have time to rewatch and have more specific thoughts 587 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: and minutia and all that. But we'll continue to just 588 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: kind of I. 589 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: Would think next week too, we get into a little 590 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: more drafts though totally and you know some stuff, you know, 591 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: totally got a bunch of days to YEA. 592 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: One hundred percent there with you on that. But we'll 593 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: continue to just kind of download all of our thoughts 594 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: from last night here on this show today and hour 595 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: number two, we will get to some tweets. We will 596 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: do our typical around the league that we do on 597 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: a Friday and run through the gambit of games as well, 598 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: so plenty to get to as we continue here, we'll 599 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: wrap up the first hour on the other side. What Shouler, 600 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, it is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio 601 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your. 602 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home 603 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 604 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: All right, Matt, I know you're the stats guy here. 605 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: You might have seen this one last night, but I 606 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: did mention you know that those seven straight possessions with 607 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: points eight of their last nine. I think it was 608 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: with points when our seven other last eight eight of 609 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: their last nine, something like that. When it all shook out, 610 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: I said, I don't care if it's the greatest show 611 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: on turf. I don't care if it's Montana and Rice. 612 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: That can't happen. 613 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: It can happen, right, jamar Cha. 614 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: Sixteen receptions? Did you see this? 615 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: I saw that part, every one of them. 616 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 617 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: That ties Jerry Rice for the most receptions ever in 618 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: a primetime game. I put in my notes here, Number one. 619 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: I put in my notes here, Jerry bleep and Rice. 620 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: If your opponent is doing something only Jerry Rice has done, 621 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: that's never going to be good. 622 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 4: Never gonna be good. It's funny. 623 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: Jerry Rice came up a couple times recently. Joe Flacco, 624 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: Jerry Rice, and Jon Stener Rude are the only guys 625 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: that got traded that are older than Joe Flacco. Okay, 626 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Jan stener Rud's a Hall of Fame kicker from the seventies. 627 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: Tom and I got a big kick out of that. 628 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, he came over from Europe. He was 629 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: like one of the first soccer st kickers. Pittsburgh Symphony 630 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: people are like this. 631 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: He revolutionized kicking. 632 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: So Jerry, Jerry Rice and Senrud the only two guys 633 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: in EFL history that are older than Flacco that got traded. 634 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: Wow, Like nobody wants you when you're that age. Put 635 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: you out the pastor. 636 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: Sure is a great stat That is a great stat. 637 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: And I just, Matt, I, yeah, that's not so. 638 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: Like you said, if you're doing same things with Jerry Rice. 639 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: It's not good. It's good for him, it's good for him. 640 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: Your opponent, you're yes, if your opponent is doing something 641 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: that only Jerry Rice has done. Not great, not great, 642 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: not great. 643 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: He was ridiculously good last night, by the way he was. 644 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes you just have to go wow, is 645 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: that guy an amazing football player? The way he comes 646 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: out of his breaks and how strong he is, and 647 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean he moves so well, so well, I bet 648 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: he was really fun to watch live too. 649 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: It's definitely that one where he like bobbled it four 650 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: or five times and then. 651 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: I think you might take it to the house. 652 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: Move got a slave's way that happened right in front 653 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: of the booth, right in front of us. 654 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: And you know this coordination and you know balance. 655 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Working in this industry, and I think you you could 656 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: still obviously relate to this. I mean, you were scout 657 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: in college, scouting the pros. You can get a little 658 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: jaded going to so many games. And I always hesitate, like. 659 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: It gets somewhat routine. 660 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: I should, and I always hesitate to bring this up 661 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: on air because I don't want to make it seem 662 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: like I'm like sticking my chest out. And I get 663 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: to go to so many Steeler games, but I go 664 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: to twenty if you count preseason in playoffs, I've been 665 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: going to twenty one Steelers games a year, basically. Sure, 666 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: you know, for a long time, ton of WVU games, 667 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: ton of Penguins games. 668 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I mean, professionals or high 669 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: end college athletes. 670 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: When I lived in Philadelphia, I went to a ton 671 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: of Sixers games and saw Steph Curry and Klay Thompson 672 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: and those Warriors teams play, saw Lebron and those Lakers 673 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: teams play. It's it's very rare, and I'm fortunate to 674 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: say this at this point in my career of the 675 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of sporting events that I've been to, either as 676 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: a fan or covering professionally, to still be like, Wow, 677 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: that guy did something tonight that was different, that was special. 678 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: I hope everyone recognizes that. 679 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: That's why I brought it up, because what he did 680 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: was as good a receiver day as you'll ever see 681 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: in the history of the game. 682 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean, like it's. 683 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: When I was in college, LSU came to Morgantown. It 684 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: was the first time Game Day ever came to Morgantown. 685 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: They ranked like third in the country. We were ranked 686 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: eighteenth something like that. 687 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: Huge big game. 688 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and LSU beat us. And I'm telling you, if 689 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: they didn't have Tyron, Matthew w W wins the game. 690 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: Like he's always said this about Troy and his hair 691 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: made it obvious. But like, I'm not making fun of 692 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: my wife, but she has know the first down is 693 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: but like if you go to a game and she's like, 694 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: who's forty three, who's sixty six Like, to me, that's 695 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: the test. 696 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: People don't know anything. Yo, who's that guy? 697 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: When we when my wife would have been last one 698 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: of my wife and I went ten years ago to 699 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: watch the Lakers play the Sixers in Philly. I'll never forget. 700 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: Lebron had this play. He took three steps from mid 701 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: court and dunked it, like just yeah, prime athlete. Lebron 702 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: just exploded through the defense and threw it down. And 703 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: my wife was like, that's not normal. I was like, no, sweetheart, 704 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: it's not. 705 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: A good friend of mine. Our sons are the same age. 706 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: And he invited us to go and we couldn't go, 707 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: but they did the typical let's go up to Cleveland 708 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: for a preseason game just so we can see an 709 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: NBA game. And he came back and I remember us 710 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 3: having beers with him that night. You know, he took 711 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: his son, who was Big Hooper. He was like eight 712 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: years old. He was young, and he wanted to see 713 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: an NBA game, took him a preseason game. He comes back, 714 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: He's like, Lebron didn't play that stuck. But this guy 715 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: they called the Greek freak kid, and I'd never heard 716 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: of him, but holy spokes, like he like he's six' 717 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: ten and takes three strides and he's up and down 718 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: the court like everyone on the planet's, like who's? 719 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: That? 720 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: Yep that was last. 721 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: Night we lost by. THIRTEEN i think THE LSU wvu 722 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: in that game And Tyron math he played. Unbelievable he 723 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: forced two. Turnovers one of them he blitzed from the. 724 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: Slot gino tried to dump it over his head To Tevon. 725 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: Austin he jumped up and tipped it to himself and caught, 726 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: it juked Out Tavon austin and took it for a pick. 727 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 4: Six like he had a great pro, career but he 728 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 4: was one of the best college. Defense he probably should 729 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 4: have won The high as a defensive. 730 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: Back i'm walking off the field And i'm telling all 731 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: the PEOPLE i work, with Like i'm pissed, off But i'm, 732 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: like if they don't Have, tyro if they don't have 733 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: a strong, safety they lose that. Game, yeah you know 734 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean like they don't Have Chase brown last, 735 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: night and he's a wide. Receiver there's, more, Yeah Jamar 736 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: chase part of, me there's. 737 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: And the other quarterback just couldn't give them the. Ball you're, like. 738 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: RIGHT i, mean if it wasn't if they would have 739 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: average quarterback play these last couple of, Weeks bengal season 740 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: would be. 741 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 4: A lot, different, Right and he wouldn't do that every, 742 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 4: week but it's probably you. 743 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: Throw them the ball twenty three times a, week he's 744 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: gonna put up some. 745 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: Numbers there's not really an answer for. Them but what's 746 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 3: going on the answer is when their quarterback can't hit. 747 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: Him exactly, right. Right what's crazy to me about that 748 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: is he didn't have one Single what they would, classify 749 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: we talk about this all the time is explosive, play right. 750 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 4: Right it wasn't, like, oh he had that eighty. 751 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Yarder his longest catch was eighteen. Yards that doesn't even 752 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: qualify as an explosive. 753 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: Play which is a compliment because he's WHAT i, mean 754 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: it makes it more, impressive, right. Right they couldn't do anything, 755 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: Again it wasn't like they screwed up once. 756 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: And he had and he had an eighty, yarder and 757 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 2: that completely skews his. 758 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 3: Average right, right, right didn't Even Sean jackson gets behind 759 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: the defense because he's super. 760 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: Fast he did do anything. 761 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: Else, Man he didn't even have a twenty, yarder which. 762 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: Is every route wards productive just, insane just just. 763 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: Insane and then. 764 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: And if you don't care about this, game back to the, 765 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 3: point you should have loved watching that, awesome they're, Right 766 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: like if they, do if he Plays Monday night next 767 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: week and he beats The Browns moe night Like. 768 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: Chase, outstanding and you, know it just felt like to 769 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 2: one of those games where you were just waiting for 770 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: the defense to make a big play and they never. 771 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 4: Did, yeah because they so often. 772 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: Do they so often. 773 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: Do even like WHEN tj And cam collided for the, 774 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: Sack i'm, like there's be another one, Coming there's be a. 775 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: Tip they had. 776 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: ONE i think it was the first. Possession, yeah that 777 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: one LATE tj And. Cam that was. 778 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 3: It when you'll kickball, coming that's gonna end up WHETHER 779 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: TF i. 780 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: Want to, say there was no big, plays and that 781 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: is that's the double edged sword of This steelers. 782 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: Defense live by it and die by, It. 783 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: Live by and, die but live by the, sword die 784 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: by the. 785 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: Sword and you have to be better on a downtown. 786 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: Basis when they're not all year, long when they're not 787 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: winning the sack, differential when they're not winning the turnover, 788 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: differential it is it is tough for them to be 789 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 2: the defense that they should, be that they're supposed. 790 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: To, be and that part is. 791 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: Troubling that they're great at creating, splash great as good 792 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 3: as you're going to, see but it's hard to count 793 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: on and the days you don't AND i understand not 794 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: it's been a slog like not everybody in the league 795 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: has the pass catchers That cincinnati, have not even. 796 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: Close of, course a lot of teams wouldn't have still 797 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 4: won the. 798 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: Game how much did we talk about leading up To thursday? 799 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: Two this is why you went out and Got, ramsey 800 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: this is why you went out and Got, slagh this 801 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: is why you went out and. Reworked that secondary was 802 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: for opponents like this, exactly and it looked like. 803 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 4: That, yeah against these, two what you did wasn't good 804 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 4: enough in the, offseason and if they played again tomorrow 805 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 4: or in two, months. 806 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: A few, weeks it could be. 807 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: Different i'm, sure, yeah BUT i don't know who's Covering. 808 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: CHASE i, mean, frankly this is a problem every defense 809 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: is going to. HAVE i, mean maybe certain would do. 810 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 3: Better there's five or six guys that would battle, him, 811 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: sure not to a draw, even but Would, YEAH i 812 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: mean there's some the elite. Guys but to, think, man 813 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: we'll just we're able to shut Down chase now and Then, 814 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: higgins it ain't. 815 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: Happened, no, yeah it's not. 816 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 3: WORRIES i still Think grahamsy's, Fine porter's a little, grabby 817 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: but slave might be a little. 818 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: Old and it's it's. 819 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: Mad it's not even because you AND i said, this 820 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: every Reasonable steelers fan or media member said. This you 821 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: knew those guys were going to make some. 822 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 4: Place they will next, week they will the week. 823 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: After you could play perfect defense On Steph. Curry he's 824 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: gonna make some. Shots like it's just. 825 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 4: Going from half. Court it goes not a, lot you 826 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: can do. 827 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: It it going to. Happen but it was way more 828 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: than it was way. More obviously it was. Excessive if 829 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: those guys just make some, plays you probably get out 830 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: of there with a thirty one to twenty seven win 831 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: or something like. That, yeah that's WHY i. 832 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 4: Think that's WHY i said the sin was the run, 833 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 4: defense because that. Bad it was. 834 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: BAD i mean, right, yeah six point two yards per 835 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: carry and that includes with kind of, flaccos you, know 836 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: skewed with the sack average in there. Too i'm sure 837 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: if we take out flacos five carries for three. Yards, 838 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: yeah air quotes there that one of those was like. 839 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: A sneak and one of them was a push push 840 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: or something like. 841 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: That, yeah, right, right, Right but, yeah the run defense 842 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: to me is more troubling than, oh you got a 843 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 3: hat trick against, YOU i mean a hat trick against 844 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 3: The blackhawks And capitals later in the. 845 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 4: Years actually just happened to be on the wrong end 846 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 4: of the bad night against the Stud. Well the run, defense, 847 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 4: though especially with their history of being a bad running. Team. 848 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: OOH i did not think that we'd get back to 849 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: the point of or that we'd get to a point 850 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: now where maybe if you pulled The steelers fans today 851 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: and people are. Hyperbolic now you laid this out like 852 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: a couple of, plays and we're all singing a different tune. 853 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: Today i've said many times football is our favorite sport 854 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: in this. Country it's. Religion and you get seventeen maybe 855 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: meaningful games a year if you're lucky for your. Team 856 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: everybody does, This BUT i bet you if you Polled 857 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: steelers fans right, now they might be feeling better about 858 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 2: the offense than the. Defense AND i don't think. 859 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 4: Yeah nobody saw. That we saw it last, night after. 860 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: What Aaron rodgers was able to, do after What Jalen 861 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: warren was able to, do. 862 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 4: And we should recognize that as a bad. Defense But 863 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: i'm trusting the offense. 864 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: More, yeah, Absolutely, Yeah and you know that is the 865 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: real bummer to, me Because i'm sure you probably do this. 866 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: Too once you get to the fourth quarter of, Games 867 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: i'm starting to, think what's the, storyline what's the, like 868 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: what's the? Headline you know WHAT i? Mean, yeah If 869 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm kabali and Dou lac or If I'm dale AND 870 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: i had to actually write, stories what's the? Headline what's 871 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: the my? 872 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: Angle you? 873 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: Know and it changed five different times in the last 874 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: five minutes because you're, Like, okay the the angle is 875 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: that now the offense did enough to make up for, 876 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: it and you're feeling great about the, offense and While. 877 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: Aaron rodgers broke, free holy the. 878 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: Day, okay now the angle is going to be the 879 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: defense is going to be able to make the one 880 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: play they need to win this, game and they were 881 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: bad for fifty eight minutes but they Made, okay now 882 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 2: the angle switches back to you, know the defense was 883 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: bad and the offense wasn't able to do, enough and 884 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 2: those two turnovers really loom, large and it was. 885 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 4: How games go a. Lot that's what People want's why 886 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: people tune in Every. Sunday you, KNOW i. 887 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Am i'll be honest with. You there's times where like 888 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: going back and watching the game and checking my notes 889 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: and taking more notes and all that stuff can become 890 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: a little bit of a. Task it won't be, whenever you, 891 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: know Probably sunday, night Sometimes sunday WHEN i rewatch this, 892 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 2: Game i'm very excited to sit down and rewatch. This 893 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: there's so much back and, forth there's so much to. 894 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: Get it is entertaining. 895 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: Game you, Know there's been times in the past. Years 896 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: i'm sure you can relate to. This The steelers win 897 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: a game sixteen to ten And i'm, Like i'm not 898 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: excited to go back and watch. This drip those games 899 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: Where Kenny pickett would make a couple of plays at. 900 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 4: The end of the game and they'd win. 901 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: Fourteen to, ten And i'm, Like i'm not excited to 902 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 2: go back and watch. This this was not a. Mona lisa, 903 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: Like i'm excited to go. BACK i don't know if 904 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: excited is the right. Word But i'm looking forward to 905 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: being able. 906 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 4: To be a lot from. 907 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 2: It, yeah because, again particularly that second, half particularly that fourth, 908 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: quarter there was there was a lot going. 909 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 4: On there was certainly a lot of. 910 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: Action, yes, yes, Absolutely. 911 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: And again it's an entertaining game if you're not in this. 912 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 3: Camp everyone thirty one other teams really enjoyed. 913 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: One if thirty one other teams really, enjoyed. 914 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: Especially the, tea which we got to get. THAT i, 915 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 3: mean the state of the division changed. Drastically at some 916 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: point when in the next hour Or, monday we've got 917 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 3: to talk about how how it affects The ravens And, bengals. 918 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: And maybe we could start there when we, back just 919 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 2: for a few. MINUTES i, know we want to go 920 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: around the. League we got a bunch of tweets we 921 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 2: want to get. Into but, man if you would have 922 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: told me at the start of the season The steelers 923 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,959 Speaker 2: would be four and two after their first six, GAMES 924 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: i would have, said let's let's do it. Right, man 925 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: it does not feel that way. Today it certainly does 926 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: not feel that way today when you open the door 927 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 2: for the rest of THE Afc north and you are 928 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: now four and two instead of five and. One with a, 929 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: touple a trio of tough games coming up here against The, 930 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: packers The, colts and The. Chargers let let's let's get into. That, 931 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: yeah let's get to. Them let's get into that. More 932 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: to start our number, two get to some of your. 933 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 2: Tweets we'll go around the league and give our thoughts 934 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 2: on all the Other week seven games as. Well to 935 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: all of that and more in our number. Two West 936 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 2: Huler Matt williamson into The drive On Steelers Nation radio 937 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 2: on The Steelers Audio. 938 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 4: Network