1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Wednesday. We are fully assembled, Fritzy's 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: here seating back from vacation, and we have Marvin and 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Paulie yours truly in the brgs. Thank you for taking 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: advantage of the autograph calendars. They're all gone, but the 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: only place to get them now is if you go 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: to Danpatrick dot com and click on the Tailgate Moonshine 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: portion of the website and you get an opportunity with 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: some of the specials that we have. 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Seaton Poll Question 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Final Hour, Paul just sent this one over. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: If you were the top high school quarterback in the 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: country and the nil money was all the same, where 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: would you sign today. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: Penn State, Yes, PAULI I think I'd lean towards even 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: though I'm not a fan of the program. Ohio State 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: because of the situation with their receivers the past decade 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: decade plus. 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that quarterback is going to be around for 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: a couple more years. I would probably say LSU. If 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: you're going there, they're spending money, and I got Lane 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: Kiff in there, you know they're going to get some 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: playmakers as well. Here's something for you. Here's the schools 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: that are having a better recruiting class than Penn State. 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: These are the ones having a better recruiting class than 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: Penn State as of right now, as of this morning. 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: This according to twenty four to seven Sports, Harvard, cal Pauly, 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: UC Davis, Northern Arizona, Kennesaw State, Delaware, North Texas, Hawaii, Idaho, Georgia, 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Southern Georgia State, Old Dominion, UMass, Arkansas State, Buffalo, Charlotte, 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: fi U, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, South Alabama, Sacramento State. 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: Stand of the Day, Stand of the Day, Stantata Day, 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 5: Stannata Day. 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: This is the stand of the Day satur Today, broughtrey 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: Patrick show, the offensive coordinator for the Ohio State Buckeyes 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: going to South Florida Brian Heartline, former receiver, is going 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: to go and take over the program at South Florida. 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Penn State as of now has four commits and this 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: is National Signing Day, still waiting to get their head coach. 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: All righty David Arkansas. They call him Pittsburgh Dave. I 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: believe Hi Dave, Yes they do. 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: And if I'm a paraphrase Jimmy Chitwood a little bit, 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to make any change, 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 6: but I think it's about time for me to start 51 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 6: talking about Mike Tomlin and and well, we've got to. 52 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 6: I think what we've got to really look at is 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 6: I think there's a disconnect somewhere. Something has gone wrong. 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 6: There's a short, there's a short in the system. And 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: I do think it's time for him to go. I 56 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: think he's lost the. 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Room, I think. 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: But I think it's still very possible he could, you know, 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: go three and two these last five games, they end 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 6: up with a winning record, and possible even with that 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 6: win the division, they can even win the playoff game. Hey, 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 6: they could still run it out. They're not going to, 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: but I think regardless one way or the other, even 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 6: if they were, then you win on top and let's go. 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: But I think I think the disconnect is there, and 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: I think it's time for him to move on. Whether 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: or not that place is Penn State, I could see that, 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: but I think he wants to be a pro coach. 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't see Penn State. I could see him 70 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: doing TV or maybe he would take over another like 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals if they're open. He's I mean, there's going 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: to be opportunities here if he wants to coach elsewhere. 73 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: But you're right, if he doesn't have the Super Bowl, 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: then I wonder if he's still the head coach there 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: because that helps the resume. But you haven't won a 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: playoff game since twenty sixteen, and this is a team 77 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: franchise city that expects championships, not just a playoff win, 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: and he hasn't been able to come up with that. 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: That has to be factored in, and you know, the 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: players change, but the coach is still there. And Ben 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Roethlisberger of all people said, you know, maybe it's time 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: to clean house, and that should resonate with people in 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: the front office, with Ben saying that I don't know 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: his relationship with Mike Tomlin, but to say That is 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: a pretty strong statement. Yeah, PAULI. 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: They kind of remind me the Steelers of Michigan five 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: six years ago when they couldn't find a quarterback and 88 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: are using the portal and they were just a quarterback 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: away from winning the national title and they did. It 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 4: feels like the Steelers are a team that just can't 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: find a quarterback the past five years and makes you 92 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: realize how competitive Roethlisberger kept you year to year. Picket 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, a guy who's too young, two 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: guys who are too old. How about a guy who's 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: twenty eight years old in his prime, and I think 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: they'd be right back in the thick of. 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Things they could have their quarterback. But I mean it's 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: just not a threatening team. I mean it used to 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: be pretty simple. They played good defense, they ran the ball, 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: and they could come up with a couple of big plays. 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: I mean, go back to Terry Bradshaw. They weren't a 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: throwing team. They were running team, and they had a 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: great defense. I mean Ben was different, be Ben's a 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 2: unique quarterback there, but it's still they were running the football, 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: playing great defense, and then Ben would come up with 106 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: a couple of big plays, but you got to win 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: playoff games, not just get to the playoffs, and especially 108 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: with a window that that's wide open that twenty sixteen. 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean that goes back to the coach. Remember they 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: were going to change the but the gm oh we 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: got to change. We got to change the offensive coordinator. 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: And okay, Matt Canada, Okay, you changed it. Arthur Smith, Okay, 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: nothing's really changed here. And I think that's where you 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: have to start looking at this. He'll make a hard decision, 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: and that is if you move on, who are you 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: getting that's going to be better than Mike Tomlin as 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: Penn State found out, you can move on who's going 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: to be better or as good? 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, and I feel like the Pittsburgh fan base 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 7: is probably telling them the national media, we've been saying 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 7: this for about four or five years, but they haven't 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 7: been the Steelers haven't been bad enough for us to 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 7: pay attention to Mike toomlass job security. 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right, And there is that local narrative 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: and it's different from the national one because it's like 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: everybody's like, man, I want to play for him. Man, 127 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: he's a great case. He's a leader, man, he's others. 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: He might be all of those things, but he's not 129 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: a coach who's going to win in the playoffs and 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: he hasn't and he probably won't this year either. Yeah, pung. 131 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: And if you go back the past five years in 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: the draft for the Steelers twenty eighteen, James Washington wide 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 4: receiver didn't work out, Deontay Johnson the next year didn't 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: work out, Chase Claypool complete bust, second round. Uh, George 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: Pickens no longer on the team, now a star for 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: another team. They didn't get max value for him. 137 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 8: That's all. 138 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: Those are a bunch of whiffs at the receiver position 139 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: in a row. 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: But we've also been told Mike Tomlin is involved in 141 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: the draft. So it's not one of those where he 142 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have any say. It's not like he's, you know, 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Dallas cowboy head coach. You know where, Hey, who are 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: we taking? We'll let you know. Mike Tomlin, you know, 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: has been has been widely reported involved in those drafts. Uh. 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Andrew in Vegas, Good morning, Andrew, what's on your mind today? 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 8: Good morning DPTE. 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 9: First off, thank you for toughing it out today. I'm 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 9: well aware it's still a laying kiff in season. But 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 9: I'd like to put Michigan as a contender for the 151 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 9: best basketball state with Michigan dominating, Michigan State undefeated and 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 9: the Pistons as well. 153 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't ask that question yet. We did the 154 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: best football state, we were factoring in college and pro. 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: The best basketball state. I'll have to give that some thought, 156 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: but maybe in February we do that. But Michigan, Michigan State, 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: and of course my Pistons playing well. But thank you, Andrew, 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: thank you. Uh, let's see Steven Pittsburgh. Hi, Steve, what's 159 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: on your mind? 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 8: First time? 161 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 10: Five nine one ninety. Yes. So the way we look 162 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 10: at it in Pittsburgh is that he essentially that' starmland 163 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 10: inherited a Hall of fame quarterback, inherited a locker room 164 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 10: that was built in one super bowls and that's all he. 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 11: Won in the beginning. In he had the triple bs, 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 11: they could do nothing with them. And you can just 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 11: see when he drafted Kenny Pickett has no idea what 168 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 11: he's doing on the offensive side. 169 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, once again, as Marvin point it out, 170 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: the local conversation about toilant has been this way for 171 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Nationally. I don't think you 172 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: find too many analysts or shows that are going to 173 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: come after Mike Tomlin. Sunday Night, the pressure is on CJ. 174 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Stroud in the Texans. They face Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. 175 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: Which team will rise to the occasion? Sunday seven Eastern 176 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock, Nick and Irvine. Hi, Nick, welcome back, Dan. 177 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 12: Always in honor to talk to a Hall of Famer. 178 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 12: I remember regularly calling and talking to Chick Hern after 179 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 12: Laker games all the way through the nineties, and I 180 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 12: definitely put you in that category. 181 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Bro. 182 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 12: I buried Chick and I'll bury you, but I'll definitely 183 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 12: be raising a pint to you if fat ever does happen. 184 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: Listen, Bro, easy there, Nick, I turned dark quickly, not. 185 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 12: Dark, that's Irish happy right there. 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Hey, you know. 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 12: What I'm saying. Listen. 188 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 8: You know we're living through this revolution. 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 12: I mean it's amazing, you know, Like we learned about 190 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 12: the American Revolution, the Communist Revolution, the sexual revolution, whatever, 191 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 12: but the actual concept to see it happening. Dan. We 192 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 12: remember when there were three teams at the end of 193 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 12: a college football season, undefeated, and we want to see him. 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Play many times two teams. 195 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 12: And you tell a teenager or a high school football 196 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 12: player about this and they're like, are you kidding me? 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 10: Now, we got all these teams playing each other. 198 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 12: We got the NCAA, who's been kicked to the curve 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 12: to say the least. We got a professional we got 200 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 12: thirty million dollar payrolls and it's going to triple in 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 12: the next two years. We got I mean, and what 202 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 12: a revolution is and what it results in are questions 203 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 12: that you could not have even fathomed, you know, five 204 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 12: years ago, and now we need immediate action. And so 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 12: you have people doing the wrong thing. You have people 206 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 12: acting unilaterally on a college by college basis. It's just 207 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 12: it's it's a revolution, and it's super exciting and it's 208 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 12: better than it was. But we need something to happen, 209 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 12: and it needs to be on a more unified basis. 210 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 11: You know. 211 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's going to happen anytime soon, Nick, 212 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: And thank you, thank you. I'll toast a pint to 213 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: you when you go as well. But yeah, you start 214 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: to look at the chaos here, and if I'm college football, 215 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, all right, it's not perfect, but we 216 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: love You know, when you had the playoffs where it 217 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: was one versus two and then we went to four. 218 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: I mean they were there was always conversation, and I 219 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: think they like that you were talking about their product. 220 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you're invested in BYU. Oh 221 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: my god, their coach turned down Penn State. BYU's got 222 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Texas Tech may have a Heisman candidate linebacker. 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, but that's what you want in 224 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: today's sports society. Is anybody talking about our sport? Yeah, Marvin, Yeah. 225 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 7: And I think if you're in any Power for or 226 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 7: Power five conference, you're gonna say to a recruit, a 227 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 7: we have a chance to win the national title and 228 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 7: get into the playoffs, where twenty years ago there was 229 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 7: no shot of BYU touching the BCS Bowl games. 230 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 11: Yeah. 231 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean the fact that Texas Tech went out and 232 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: spent money and they have a really good team and 233 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: they're gonna be in the playoffs. 234 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 8: It's great. 235 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Indiana. In my wildest imagination, I never thought we'd be 236 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: talking about Indiana as a team that could win the 237 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: national title, win football. They just didn't or a player 238 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: who's gonna win the Heisman or be up there for 239 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: the heisman. Just didn't think it could happen. But these 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: things are happening in real time in a span of 241 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: a year or two years. It's not like we built 242 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: this program. This is a quick fix, yes see. 243 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: But part of that is what drives me nuts though, 244 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: is that, like I think a story like Indiana is awesome, 245 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: but it's also sort of begrudgingly happened because maybe they 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: select your committee, like. 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: We can't keep them out. 248 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: You have to put them in because they won the 249 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: you know, they won their way in. But not everybody 250 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: is going to have that opportunity to do that. There's 251 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: still that element of it's sort of that gymnastics thing 252 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: that I was talking about before. You're still getting judged. 253 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: It's not just wins and losses. You don't just win 254 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: your way in. You have to do the wwe part 255 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 3: of it too of like yeah, well we got to 256 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: do it the right way, right. 257 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: I hate that an inexact science. There's no science at all. 258 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: It's it's judge, it's judgment and artistry rather than just data. 259 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, you have wins and losses for the data. But 260 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: then there's also the eye test as well for members 261 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: of the committee. 262 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: Yes, and it's funny that college football is a debated 263 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: sport and it's all about opinion and what you're doing now, 264 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: And the most debated sport in our country is the NFL, 265 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: and the NFL is just math. Like the Patriots are 266 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 4: eleven and two. Your opinion of the Patriots doesn't matter. 267 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 4: They can get home field advantage and you can't decide 268 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: to get them out of it, no matter if you 269 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: think that the Bills are better. There's no debate really 270 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: in pro football. Is like when they do power rankings, 271 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: those are kind of meaning with us. 272 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they do fill up time. Yes, But 273 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: like the Bears have the best record in the NFC. Okay, 274 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're the best team, but they played 275 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: well enough. You know when they say, well, I haven't 276 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: played anybody. The good teams beat the teams they're supposed 277 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: to beat, and the Bears have been able to do that. 278 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: It's not like the Bears go, hey, commissioner, can we 279 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: talk to you. We want to make up our schedule here. 280 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: So it doesn't work that way. 281 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's they're sort of meaningless. I guess, and 282 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: that power rankings don't equate playoff seeds, so they don't 283 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: usually line up. So that is sort of the debatable 284 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: fun part. Like the Rams right now are like the 285 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: best team in the league even though they're actually not, 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: but they're playing like they are. 287 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: So for that example, but. 288 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: In college football, they'll actually take that and use it 289 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: as that and that's why this team is in and 290 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: that's garbage. 291 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the open to interpretation college f fall is all 292 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: power rankings. Yeah, but you know, when Chris Fowler said, 293 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's not about the brand, like I disagree 294 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: with him. I think there's certain programs, certainly Notre Dame, 295 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: that the brand is omnipresent and whether you like them 296 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: or not, you will watch them. It's like Duke, whether 297 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: you like them or not, you will watch them the Cowboys, 298 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: whether you like them or not, you're going to watch them. 299 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: And I think that factors in, and maybe it's subconsciously, 300 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: but it just feels like Notre Dame is a really 301 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: good team and they did have the home loss that 302 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: cost them with Texas A and m and they open 303 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: up the season, you know, they played Miami on the 304 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: road and played him, you know, they went toe to 305 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: toe with them. But yeah, we're always going to have 306 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: these debates, and if we go to sixteen teams, we'll 307 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: continue to have these debates. 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I really don't want the sports to look 309 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: like each other. Like the NFL is like an antiseptic 310 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: Applebee's with the same menu, and you know what you're 311 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: gonna get when you walk in college football is the 312 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: dive bar with the pool table and stuff all over 313 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: the place and wires hanging down and shady stuff happening 314 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: in the bathroom that's not up to code. And seriously, 315 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: that's what college football feels like, the CD version of 316 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: the NFL, and it's great. 317 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: Guess, tod do we believe in? 318 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 13: Chris Paul refers to truth serum and we've used that 319 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 13: before in these selection committee rooms. Is it possible that 320 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 13: they're looking at paperwork that's trying to figure out, let's 321 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 13: exhaust every possible way to try to figure out how 322 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 13: to get Notre Dame, for example, in and make more 323 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 13: of an effort for one school over another. Does that 324 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 13: do you think that exists on any level? 325 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: No? 326 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's Oh my gosh, hey Tommy, 327 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: did you come up with a reason to get Notre 328 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: Dame Manah, Sarah, what about you, Hey, Skippy, I don't 329 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: think it's that. I think it's more of just you 330 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: look at them and you go, okay, can we make 331 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: an argument for them? Either can or you can't, because 332 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, you still have to have the numbers are there, 333 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: Like BYU as a better resume than Notre Dame. And 334 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: if BYU beats Texas Tech, they certainly you know, will 335 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: be involved in the playoffs. If they don't win, then 336 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: they're not going to be in so as much as 337 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame is really the outlier, Like how many 338 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: other schools I'd love to have USC in but their 339 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: resume doesn't match up Alabama, Georgia, They're going to be 340 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: in Ohio, State's going to be in. So I think 341 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: that there's always those schools. I mean, nobody's clamoring, you know, 342 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: for somebody out of the ACC where it's going to be, 343 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, an injustice if somebody, if ACC doesn't have 344 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: a team in the in the playoffs? Yes, Tom, what if. 345 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 13: Notre Dame was called South Bend States? The only reason 346 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 13: I say is again we get caught up in brands 347 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 13: and names over the years, the Alabamas and Georgias and 348 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 13: Ohios State in Michigan. 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: But they're not called South Bend State. And if they 350 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: were called South Bend State, then they would have had 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: the history of being great and we wouldn't, you know, 352 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: go oh, South Bend State. They don't sound like a 353 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: big name brand that'd already be a brand. 354 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 13: But I think that history causes some people maybe to 355 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 13: think one way or another. If you're totally on the 356 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 13: fence one way or another where it's down to the wire, 357 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 13: Notre Dame in Miami or whatever that like, there's something 358 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 13: about the name of one school of another that could influence. 359 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 8: You a little bit. 360 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: That's why I said subconsciously that could happen. But I 361 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: don't think they're going out of their way to devise 362 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: a plan. You still have to answer to the critics 363 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: with this. We'll take a break. 364 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: I make the sexy name Ohio State you would choose 365 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: over South Bend State? 366 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: Be like, ah, yes see, how are. 367 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 8: We gonna. 368 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys Lions? Tomorrow night. 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Check us out 382 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: on YouTube and subscribe. 383 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm still amazed with this Chris Paul situation with the 384 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Clippers that you unceremoniously dump him in Atlanta and he's 385 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: gonna retire at the end of the season, Like, can't 386 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: you bring him back so he can retire in front 387 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: of the home crowd or say goodbye? I don't think 388 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: they have a retired jersey, do they, Marvin? Can you 389 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: check to the Clippers, have they because here's Chris Paul, 390 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: arguably the best player that the franchise has ever had, right, 391 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he gets kicked to the 392 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: curb at three in the morning East Coast time, and 393 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: in Atlanta just felt like and I don't know if 394 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: anything else happened in Atlanta, but still, here's the best 395 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: player that you've ever had, and that's how much you 396 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: think of him. Has to be something else attached to this. 397 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: It just feels that way. Andrew Whitworth Amazon Prime Video, 398 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: NFL analyst and won a Super Bowl Champion chip with 399 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: the Rams. Big game coming up tomorrow night, Cowboys Lions, 400 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: and you can catch the pregame coverage starting at seven 401 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: eastern four Pacific, kickoff at eight fifteen eastern on the program. 402 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Feels like a playoff game, like an elimination game for 403 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: both of these. I mean, Cowboys have to win. What 404 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: about the Lions playoff portion of this? 405 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he really does. This feels like playoff 406 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 8: football already. I mean, you think of how hot the 407 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 8: Cowboys are right now, win three in a row, opportunity 408 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 8: for them to really fight themselves back into this playoff picture. 409 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 8: And then for the Lions, it's man a season ago dominant, 410 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 8: they were, you know, felt like it was going to 411 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 8: be a repeat. This year, It's not been the consistency 412 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 8: they've been used to. They've they've been banged up here 413 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 8: recently now without Sam Laporter and possibly I'm on Saint 414 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 8: Round for a little bit. Man, this is going to 415 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: be a challenge because obviously what I'm on meant to 416 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 8: them and everything he is to them. Who Dan Campbell's 417 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 8: got his hands full now is the play caller, because 418 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 8: this is the guy who did everything for this offense, 419 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 8: and you've got to do it against a team that's 420 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 8: hot and a team that's looking to get themselves back 421 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 8: in contention, has a whole lot of belief that they 422 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 8: are a playoff football team. 423 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's this simple, Andrew that 424 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: I said at the beginning of the year, and even 425 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: when they made the trade with MIKEL Parsons, just have 426 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: an average defense because you have a better than average offense, 427 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: and if you do that, you can be a playoff team. 428 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: But is it that simple that they now have an 429 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: average better than average defense to go along with that offense. 430 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: That's why they're so dangerous? 431 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you look at it. I mean, I 432 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 8: think it's one of those things. I'm sure Jerry's walking 433 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 8: around kind of beating his chest right now. We all 434 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 8: criticize the trade we all, like, you know, everyone had 435 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 8: their opinion of it, and now all of a sudden 436 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 8: you start to look at how they've been successful in 437 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 8: defense the last few weeks. You know, they've they've increased 438 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 8: the interior. You look at Quinnon Williams, you look at 439 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 8: Kenny Clark, you look at these guys, how that they've played. 440 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 8: They're kind of starting to play with these three D 441 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 8: three D tackle looks and starting to kind of do 442 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: something different, which give credit to Eberflus of kind of 443 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 8: creating the package to use all those guys. And they've 444 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 8: been able to slow down run games, be more efficient 445 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 8: getting after the quarterback, and effective you know that in 446 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 8: that regard, And so man, it's starting to show like, 447 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 8: all right, if we could slow people downs at least 448 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 8: not let them run the football on us, give ourselves 449 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 8: an opportunity to get the football back to our offense 450 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 8: and then play well on offense, we can win. And 451 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 8: that's really It wasn't like they were perfect into Chiefs. 452 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 8: They still get enough points and yards, but they found 453 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 8: a way to win in those moments and give Dak 454 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 8: one more chance. And they've got some absolute aliens on 455 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 8: the outside right now playing receiver. And this is kind 456 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 8: of like to me the best the Cowboys have looked 457 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 8: in recent years, and it looks like they are built 458 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 8: to go make a run right here. 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Would you rather block Micah? Well, rather block who would 460 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: you want to avoid? Micah Parsons or Quinn Williams. 461 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 8: I would say I'd always rather have the big boys. 462 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 8: I mean the big boys. Is uh, there's at least 463 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 8: a lot of what's the best the most appropriate way 464 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 8: I can say this, there's a lot of body to 465 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 8: get your hands on. Let's put it that way, all right, 466 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 8: So I like more masks that I can get a 467 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 8: hold of, if that makes sense. So the little guys 468 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 8: Micah in that sense, his height, his speed, his agility, 469 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 8: Getting your hands on those guys was always the hardest 470 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 8: part is just finding a way to get in front 471 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 8: of them. So at least with Quinn, and it might 472 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 8: be a physical battle and he might win a couple 473 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 8: of those, but you weren't gonna have any problem getting 474 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 8: your hands on him. So I always, like, I prefer 475 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: to get my hands, you know, in the mud a 476 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 8: little bit, just get after it. So any guy that 477 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: I could fight and wrestle with, I much preferred. 478 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: Would you rather have if you have to pick now, 479 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: would you rather have a smart quarterback or a tough quarterback? Oh? 480 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 8: Man, that's a good one. I'm gonna probably say, since 481 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 8: that you could possibly enter the category of having a 482 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 8: really good coordinator, I'd rather have a tough quarterback because 483 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 8: I feel like maybe there's some of those things we 484 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 8: can handle from a coaching standpoint, But when they're tough 485 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 8: and they're gonna survive down to down, they're gonna play 486 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 8: the physicality, they're gonna extend plays. There's a self belief 487 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 8: I think in that starts to be created around them 488 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 8: and in that huddle. You know, when I start to 489 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 8: think of the great ones I played with, whether it 490 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 8: be Carson Palmer or Matthew Stafford and some of those 491 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 8: guys in Jared Goff, I start to think of how 492 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 8: tough they were, right, and like people talk about affecting 493 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 8: the quarterback, I mean I never heard those guys ever complain, 494 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 8: you know why, or even put emphasis on anything other 495 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 8: than being at their best and their best is acquired 496 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 8: and find a way to respond. Those were guys you'd 497 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 8: never hear Whiper ever. I mean, Matthew Stafford always call 498 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 8: him John Wayne. But he's like the baddest cowboy in 499 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 8: the huddle. Everybody in that huddle wants to be as 500 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 8: tough as that dude every single snap, and you're living 501 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 8: to try and live up to man. I want to 502 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 8: be tough enough that Matthew Stafford thinks I'm tough because 503 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 8: that's the kind of dute he is. 504 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: Okay, but what do you think when you hear Jackson 505 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: Dart that, Hey, this is in soccer and I'm gonna 506 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: be running and I'm gonna continue to play this way? 507 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: Is he being small? I love it he be. You're 508 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: okay with your quarterback doing that. 509 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 8: I'm okay with what I think is gonna naturally happen. 510 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 8: We look, we saw it with Josh Allen, We've seen 511 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 8: it with other guys that love to get into that 512 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 8: mix a little bit. 513 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: Jackson coming out of concussion protocol, I mean I get 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: extra hits. Yeah. 515 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 8: But here's the thing. We can't if we want to 516 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 8: get in the ring and swing with heavyweights, we can't 517 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 8: control whether we're gonna get punched in the head. I 518 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 8: mean that's just the reality. So we're playing NFL football. 519 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 8: You're gonna take some shots. You wanna extend plays, You're 520 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 8: gonna take some shots. Here's what he's gonna have to do. 521 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 8: He's got to find ways that hey, like on the 522 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 8: sideline there, all right, those are downs, get out of bounds, 523 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 8: those are downs. Like as he plays and realizes because 524 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 8: I think sometimes we talk about this in coverage, right, 525 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 8: young guys coming in and figuring out. Man, those guys 526 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 8: DB's at the NFL level. They can break on a football. 527 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 8: Oh man, I can't throw it as a tighter windows 528 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 8: as I used to could. It's not any different out 529 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 8: in space. He's learning the speed and the violence of 530 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 8: the game and saying, all right, you know what. I 531 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 8: bet he flipped over sideways the other night and said, 532 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 8: you know what, next time, I ought to get out 533 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 8: the oude of the bounds a little faster. Or that's 534 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 8: the reality. So I think I love I love the mentality. 535 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 8: You gotta have it. I mean, that's just you look 536 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 8: at the league right now. You gotta have it. How 537 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 8: many true sit in the pocket quarterbacks do we have? 538 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 8: That that exists? And it's just not true. You got 539 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 8: to extend plays. You gotta be tough. Back to Mawmes 540 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 8: is one of the toughest dudes on the planet, so's 541 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 8: Josh Allen. I mean, these dudes running extend plays and 542 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 8: they've got to live in that world. But he's got 543 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 8: to learn how to be smarter about it, and he's 544 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 8: got to get creative. And when do I do it? 545 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 8: When do I not? When do I make sure I 546 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 8: take care of my football team? But I also think 547 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 8: that Dan we have to give him credit. Who's he 548 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 8: playing with right now? Like does he have a bunch 549 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 8: of weapons that he can get rid of the football 550 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 8: and extend game plays to and get down the football 551 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 8: field too? No, he doesn't, So some of that he 552 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 8: feels like, Man, if I don't do it, I don't 553 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 8: know where to go with the football, you know, I 554 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 8: think it'd be I think I'd rather assess him a 555 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 8: year from now when you see them add some weapons. 556 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 8: Is he still doing some of that stuff or is 557 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 8: he realizing, Man, maybe it's better to give those guys 558 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 8: opportunities in these situations. 559 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need twenty five percent less John Wayne with him? 560 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: That? 561 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 562 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 11: I like that? 563 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: Like is that John Wayne light? Okay? Is that okay? 564 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, that's okay. Hey, look at Stafford's great, He's 565 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 8: a magician at it nowadays. You know, hey, listen, Matthew's 566 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 8: that ball's coming out if somebody's unblocked. You know, he's 567 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 8: out running in space. He's dirting that thing. We know 568 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 8: that he's smart that way, right, He's lived through it. 569 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 8: I mean, that guy if anybody's played through it and 570 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 8: knows so, I just think it's something that we don't 571 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 8: give him credit enough. These quarterbacks they've got to go 572 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 8: through that process too and learn how do I stay 573 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 8: on the football field. And I think that's the conversation. 574 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 8: We need you on the football field because I think 575 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 8: Jackson Dart is going to be a really good football player. 576 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth, Amazon Prime Football Analyst Coming up tomorrow night, 577 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Lions pregame coverage start set seven Eastern. 578 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Also a Louisiana State alum. Your reaction to getting Lane 579 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: Kiffin as your coach, Oh Man. 580 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 8: You know, it's one of those you hate the college 581 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 8: football system, You're mad about all that type stuff. At 582 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 8: the same time, I mean, i'd be lying if I 583 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 8: wasn't saying, as an LSU Tiger, I'm excited that we 584 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 8: have a coach that I think is gonna help us 585 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 8: be successful. But you know, Dan, I think it's tough too, 586 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 8: because if it wasn't for the calendar, it wasn't for 587 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 8: the timing. You know, it's more leaving your team when 588 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 8: it's happening and what that's gonna do to impact the 589 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 8: kids that old miss and what they had in front 590 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 8: of them. Because the idea that you hear of, like, 591 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 8: oh man, you promise these kids this, or you built 592 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 8: this and you're leaving it. Like that's happened since I 593 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 8: was in college. I mean, people forget Nick Saban. I 594 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 8: was going to Florida with Steve Spurriy or Nick Saban 595 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 8: gets hired as the LSU coach. He comes in and 596 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 8: sells me that LSU is a not a four year decision. 597 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 8: It's a forty year decision. You decide to stay in state, 598 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 8: go to LSU. We're gonna do great things. It's gonaffec. Well, hey, 599 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 8: three years later we've won a national championship. That's awesome. 600 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 8: Four years later he's gone. He took a big check 601 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 8: and he's going to the Miami Dolphins. So did he 602 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 8: lie to all the kids that came there and hey, 603 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 8: we're going to be built? 604 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 10: No? 605 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 8: I mean That's the reality is coaches have always done 606 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 8: this and it's always been a part of it. It's 607 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 8: just now, because of the calendar, we've ended this portal 608 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 8: system in NIL and now players are doing it and 609 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: we've entered this world now where that whole system needs 610 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 8: to be reset when it happens and why it happens 611 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: and all of that, and that's more the issue to me, 612 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 8: and unfortunately, I think it's put Lane in a really 613 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 8: tough position. I can say this, I can both be 614 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 8: excited that LSU got Lane Kiffing to be their head 615 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 8: coach and say that if I was in that position, 616 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 8: I don't think I could have done it. I don't 617 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 8: think I could have left the kids in that moment 618 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 8: to not finish that season. I think I would have 619 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 8: just waited and seen what other opportunities are out there. 620 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 8: For me. That's me personally, but that's my personal decision, 621 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 8: and Lane Kiffin needed to make his own. 622 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: I have told this story before, for there was a 623 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: kid who was and his dad. They were meeting with 624 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: a college coach at a big university and it was 625 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: a Sunday and they were meeting with him and they 626 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: wanted to know, Hey, the rumor is true that you 627 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: might be, you know, looking at a job in the NFL. 628 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: And he goes, no, I'm going to be here. So 629 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: the kid signs. Next day, coach goes to the NFL. Like, 630 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: come on, I'll give you an example Dan last year, 631 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood. I was at LSU when he was there, 632 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: he was down there for the game, literally conversations with him, 633 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: his family, everything, like hey, only places kids ever wanted 634 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: to play LSU. This is where he's going to go 635 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: to school, this is where like, this is everything to us. 636 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: The next week is when the whole entire Michigan News 637 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: came out to check everything. 638 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 8: And I'm going I just looked this kid in the 639 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 8: eyes the other like six days ago, and he told 640 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 8: me that I would never want to play anywhere else 641 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 8: other than be an LSU Tiger like some And that's 642 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 8: not a bash on him, it's just that is the reality. 643 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 8: Soon if somebody else comes in big money, it's hard 644 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 8: to tell these people to turn that kind of stuff down. 645 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 8: It's life changing money and people need to make their 646 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 8: own decisions. And that's my point. Lane Kiffin made the 647 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 8: best decision for him and his family. Who am I 648 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 8: to judge that, but I would say that if I 649 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 8: was in that position, I do think it'd be hard 650 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 8: for me to leave my football team. I don't think 651 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 8: I want to do it. 652 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: And I this since retired coach that when NIL came out, 653 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: he says, oh, who's going to sign lineman with it? 654 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: They're just going to give them like pizza, and I go, 655 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: linemen are going to make big money because that's where 656 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: you win in college football, your offense and defensive line. 657 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, look at Georgia. You win in the trenches, yep. 658 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: And I mean certainly in the NFL. But I thought, 659 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: how naive to think you're not going to spend money 660 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: on your edge rusher or your offensive lineman just like 661 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: you do in the NFL. But I mean, what's the 662 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: biggest payout that you've heard for an offensive lineman in 663 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: college football? 664 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't follow a lot of the 665 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 8: NL stuff, but I think it is going to continue 666 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 8: to be something huge. We've seen it in the NFL, right, 667 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 8: We've seen these teams that think, hey, you can try 668 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 8: to go the skill route and not invest in that 669 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 8: position as much, and you just don't see winning happening. 670 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 8: The teams that have good offensive lines and defensive lines 671 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 8: that want to win up front are the teams we're 672 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 8: talking about at the end of the year. Every single year. 673 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 8: You look at some of the best teams in NFL. 674 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 8: This season, again, it's all teams or that's where they 675 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 8: learn to win in the trenches. And then the other pieces, 676 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 8: obviously are massive. Having a quarterback, having skilled players in 677 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 8: both sides of the football, all those things are massive. 678 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 8: But if you don't have the foundation of what creates 679 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 8: football success, you're living in a pretty temporary building in 680 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 8: the sense that at any point it can be cut 681 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 8: out from underneath you. And look this Detroit team that's 682 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 8: playing tomorrow night. It's a great example of that. You 683 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 8: look at how good they were upfront, how dominant they 684 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 8: were last season. You lose Zeitler, you replace her, interior, 685 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 8: Frank ragnow retires. You got all new guys up there. 686 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 8: The young guy Ratleigs is playing good, but he's not 687 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 8: a veteran yet, right, and then the other guys have 688 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 8: been baying and not has played as well. The interior 689 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 8: pressure on Jared Goff has been totally different this year. 690 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 8: He's been getting hit more like it changes your football team. 691 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 8: But they still have all those other guys Jamior Gibbs 692 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 8: and Jamison Williams and all the talents all out there. 693 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 8: But when you start to change that group up front, 694 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 8: it changes your football team. 695 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: If the Cowboys get into the playoffs, what is the ceiling. 696 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 8: As good as their defense can play that, I think 697 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 8: we're still. 698 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: Can they win a super Bowl? Or can they win 699 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? 700 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 8: Here's what I would say about this season, Dan Patrick, 701 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 8: I think we have seen throughout the year. I don't 702 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 8: know if there's a team that's unbeatable. I think Carolina 703 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 8: beating it at LA last week shows us that. I 704 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 8: think the parody is it truly is? We use that 705 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 8: word all the time, we say it, but look weak 706 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 8: to week. I mean, there's not a team that you 707 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 8: go man. You know, if I go to Denver Broncos, 708 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 8: great defense, bonnecks and the offense have left me like 709 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 8: wanting a lot more for a lot of weeks. You know, 710 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 8: I go to the Patriots, Man, maybe they're for real. 711 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 8: I mean, Drake may you look at them? But then 712 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 8: I go back and I go, wait, didn't they get 713 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 8: beat by the Raiders and the Steelers this year? Like 714 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 8: it's teams where you go, man, this team's unbeatable, but 715 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 8: well they lost to who, and so it's tons of 716 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 8: that this year. I don't think there's a team that 717 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 8: you sit there and go, man, this team without questions 718 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 8: making a run. I think we're gonna see who's hot 719 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 8: and who's healthy, and that that team has got a 720 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 8: chance to go win a super Bowl this year. Because 721 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 8: if you look at Dallas, what a team's love to 722 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 8: do right now? I mean, you play man to man 723 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 8: this game matchup against Detroit, and you're gonna try to 724 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 8: who's got George Pickens and Cede Lamb, which one do 725 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 8: you want to cover? And teams are having to do that. 726 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 8: That's one of the things that they're doing really well. 727 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 8: They're splitting them up and they're saying, which guy do 728 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 8: you want to lean to? We got the quarterback. People 729 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 8: forget how good Dak Prescott is, and we'll go to 730 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 8: whichever guy you don't lean to and we can win. 731 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 8: And so I think, to me, how good can the 732 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 8: defense be? How healthy can they be? That gives their 733 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 8: ceiling because they've got an opportunity to go score with 734 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 8: anybody in the NFL. And right now, if you look 735 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 8: at offensive football, there's a lot of teams, even the 736 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 8: good ones, that have seemed to really struggle with being 737 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 8: consistent on offense. 738 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: I think Brian Kelly's accent is better than yours. 739 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 8: Uh, there's there's no question. Uh. That was probably the 740 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 8: first moment that everybody should have been like whoa. 741 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 742 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 10: So, you know, I. 743 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 8: Get it if I go down there. Ryan Fitzpatrick always 744 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 8: gives me a crap as soon as I go down 745 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 8: there to a game where I go visit. We have 746 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 8: a Saints game. We come back and he's like, wait, 747 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 8: what happened to you? And I'm like, dude, it just 748 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 8: it comes out. I get back around it. I have 749 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 8: a you know, I have a couple of fried shrimp 750 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 8: and get some rum a lot and then some metu 751 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 8: fe and it just starts. Man, it just starts. It 752 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 8: starts folding out there. 753 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Thank you, buddy, Appreciate it. 754 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Brother Andrew Whitworth, He'll be on the call the pregame 755 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: festivities for Amazon Prime. Yeah. I was waiting for the accent. 756 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: But there's certain places where you go back to and 757 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden it gets it's a little thicker. 758 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: Like somebody will go back to Brooklyn or go to 759 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: Long Island, Texas, certain parts of the South. 760 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Seon, Yeah, I spend a little time in New 761 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 3: Jersey that like coffee, start to taste a little more 762 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: like coffee. 763 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: You know, it comes back, it does. It'll be the 764 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Lions and festivity start at seven Eastern 765 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Amazon Prime. Take a break. Last call for 766 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? 767 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 768 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 769 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 770 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: listen live. Last call for phone calls, What we learn? 771 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: What's in store tomorrow? Hopefully the voice can hold up 772 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: for the next couple of days. Here final results of 773 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: the poll question Seaton. 774 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a few of them up there. 775 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 3: Let's see if you were part of the College Football 776 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: Committee playoff committee, which rationale would be most important? Team's 777 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: resume has eighty percent of that vote. The team good 778 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: for ratings is just over three percent. 779 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: That's not doing very well. And are you. 780 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: Comfortable with the current college football ranking system? Seventy three percent? 781 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: Hard no, absolutely not. 782 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: And Todd thinks that because Notre Dame is called Notre Dame, 783 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: they might get special treatment. If they were known as 784 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: South Bend University or South Bend State, they probably wouldn't. 785 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 8: Not just Notre Dame. 786 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 13: Just like I do believe that's in the back of 787 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 13: mind certain brands of schools over the years that have 788 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 13: had some kind of a success over many years. 789 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have this success and the tradition. Yeah, 790 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: but then we have the name with success. You can't go. Man, 791 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: they got a great name, they're just not any good. 792 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd meanted more of a brand in traditions. Maybe 793 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 13: I spoke a little bit the name Notre Dame, but 794 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 13: they shouldn't have fact it in. 795 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 8: But I think they do a little bit. 796 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: How about this day in sports history, Paul, I got 797 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 4: a bunch for you, Dan teen to fifty. Tom Fears 798 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: of the La Rams caught eighteen passes against the Packers. 799 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: That record stood until December of two thousand, when Terrell 800 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 4: Owens broke it with twenty catches, of course, against the Bears. 801 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: George blandon nineteen sixty one kicked a fifty five yardfield 802 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: goal record at the time. The Rules Committee in nineteen 803 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 4: sixty eight of Major League Baseball lowered the pitching mound, 804 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 4: and I didn't know this one. They changed the strike 805 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 4: zone from knees to shoulders, to top of the knees 806 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: to the armpits, arm pits, armpits. In a press release, Yep, yeah. 807 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 4: The pitcher's mound went from fifteen inches to ten inches. 808 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 4: Fifteen to ten Yeah, and that's when you know Bob 809 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 4: Gibson had that unbelievable seat. Nineteen sixty eight, pitching stats 810 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: were crazy. Danny McClain wins thirty Gibson, Bob Gibson's one 811 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 4: of the more underrated pitchers of all time. 812 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: God lean and he was on the mound. It was 813 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: a big game and he was winning those big games. 814 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Barry Sanders in nineteen eighty eight, I'm interviewing Barry sam 815 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: he won the Heisman Trophy and wil Chamberlain made his 816 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: debut at Kansas. I didn't get to talk about the 817 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: Kansas Jerseys, Paulie, that you were apoplectic about. So I'm 818 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: watching the game last night. 819 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 4: It's a really good game, and the Kansas Jerseys looked 820 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: like I don't want to describe because I want to 821 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: slight them. Good program, great fan base. They don't look 822 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 4: like Kansas jerseys. The classic script of Danny Manning and 823 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: Milton Newton and those guys, which was great and very unique. 824 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 4: Now it kind of looks like like a font of 825 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 4: a toy store or something like that. It's just very 826 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 4: off putting. Marvin's you're looking at this. 827 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 10: Right, I am. 828 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: The Connecticut jerseys look great. It looks like yeah, and 829 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: they won too. 830 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 4: The logo, the Kansas font for their word Kansas looks 831 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: like Golden Corral or some type of Oh yeah, No, 832 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 4: one's making that comp today. 833 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 7: Day's sonic. 834 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, the Clippers are the only NBA 835 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: team without a retired jersey, and that says a lot 836 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: of says a lot about the franchise. But now they 837 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: don't have a retired jersey and Chris paul gets kicked 838 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: to the curb on the road by the Clippers. Didn't 839 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: they trade Blake Griffin right after he signed a big deal, 840 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: send him to Detroit? 841 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 8: Yeah? 842 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: Man, yeah, Paulie. 843 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 4: By the way, you're Barry Sanders. Note hit the year 844 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 4: he won the Heisman, he ran for two and twenty 845 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: eight yards. In eleven games. He averaged two hundred and 846 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 4: forty yards a game average. 847 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: I do believe he could have had he could have 848 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: rushed for three thousand yards that year. I really do. 849 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: He made it look so easy. Let's go around the 850 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: room see if we learn anything on the program, Todd, 851 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: did you learn anything today? 852 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 10: I did? 853 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 13: Actually, Andrew Whitworth prefers to go up against someone with 854 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 13: more mass to grab onto, so he rather black Quinn 855 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 13: Williams than Micah Parsons Seeton. 856 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: How about you back from vacation. What'd you learn today? 857 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: It feels like an admission of holding right there. I 858 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: like the big guys because I can hold them better. 859 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 2: That's what I love. You think Chris Fowler is tough 860 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: among other things, Paul, would you learn I made to. 861 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: Talk to a professional about my uniform issues. 862 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody. We look forward to chatting 863 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 2: with you tomorrow.