Speaker 1: Coming up with a get Live podcast special guest one.
Speaker 2: But Zoe also, is it really time for Colorado to
Speaker 2: retire the jerseys of Shadur and Travis?
Speaker 3: What is too early? Jinks?
Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna have that discussion.
Speaker 2: And how about some feisty uniform talking muster muster.
Speaker 3: I want to be.
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Speaker 4: That's what I go by this time of the year
Speaker 4: because dress that time, this is to day that guy's
Speaker 4: life change, guy's family life change. Some guys are crying
Speaker 4: tiers of joy that tastes totally different than tiers of
Speaker 4: pain because somebody didn't get drafted a certain place. Somebody
Speaker 4: didn't get drafted a certain place. So it's a very
Speaker 4: emotional weekend. So is a guy that personally been there
Speaker 4: and done that. It's put like this JINX right now,
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're going one, two, three, four,
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty six.
Speaker 3: Pulling your hair out. You're just nervous, and you're nervous.
Speaker 4: Because not only are you about to go to the NFL,
Speaker 4: but you're finna have to take on a city you
Speaker 4: don't know. Like you're more excited to see what city
Speaker 4: it is. The only guys that be disappointed is guy
Speaker 4: to be like a Green Bay. You're like, oh, okay, no,
Speaker 4: I don't want to live there, but yeah, what city
Speaker 4: are you being part of?
Speaker 3: Think about it?
Speaker 4: When I got drafted in oh one, I'm still living here.
Speaker 4: This has became home. That's how deep it becomes.
Speaker 3: Jinks. So you know, it changes guy's life.
Speaker 2: So how was it for you? How were you emotionally
Speaker 2: once you got drafted.
Speaker 4: I was pain because I failed twenty spots in the draft.
Speaker 4: So as I sit there and watch names get called
Speaker 4: one after another.
Speaker 3: I'm just shaking my head.
Speaker 4: And I remember they put the mic into my face
Speaker 4: because the news was there in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: They like how you feel about it? Draft? I had
Speaker 3: my mommy and one of them, my grandmomy and.
Speaker 4: The other man, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm just happy I got drafted to Washington I'm not
Speaker 4: worried about what happened because I flowed to the top
Speaker 4: and that's all I worried about. So I had already,
Speaker 4: but it was a fire there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I came into training camp all business. I bet
Speaker 3: you were. Yeah, I was. I was just all business.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was really like tuned in. I was. It was
Speaker 3: everything that I needed. I hate to say this.
Speaker 4: If Fred Smooth goes awhere, he's supposed to go in
Speaker 4: the top fifteen, I'm probably not happy.
Speaker 3: Like I am today. Why do you think that this
Speaker 3: because I probably.
Speaker 4: Went to an environment that wasn't gonna be good for
Speaker 4: me at the time. Like this was the perfect environment
Speaker 4: for me, and it also gave me a post career
Speaker 4: home to live in. So I just felt like everything
Speaker 4: happened for a reason, and that's why I still live
Speaker 4: here today.
Speaker 3: I've played at another place, I played it.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you've tested the waters elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I came back here, so they showed the
Speaker 4: connection that I had here.
Speaker 3: So every city ain't for everybody.
Speaker 4: Every team ain't for everybody, every coach ain't for everybody.
Speaker 4: This is home and it's still home.
Speaker 3: All We're gonna be home Yeah, gonna be home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're right, there's gonna be some disappointments, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be some surprises. It's gonna be lots of tears,
Speaker 2: like you were talking about coming up in the NFL
Speaker 2: draft in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Let's go through the top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want the smooth Stradamus picks here, all right?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Number one, I mean we know it's it's cam.
Speaker 3: Ward, right, that's not hard. Yeah, it's like, let's not
Speaker 3: do this, let's not overthink it.
Speaker 4: Now most people say, are they overdrafting him?
Speaker 3: But when it comes to quarterback, ain't.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Is it the such thing as overdrafted. The positional need
Speaker 4: is to dry. All right, So if you seem like
Speaker 4: you got a guy.
Speaker 3: You got to go get the guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think they gave up on Will Levis aka the
Speaker 4: Mayonnaise Man.
Speaker 3: I think they have giving up on him. And I
Speaker 3: think cam Ward.
Speaker 4: Has the ability to play when the play breaks down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think that's what incited him about him.
Speaker 3: So I think no brainer. Number one.
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter, I think had a post on X where
Speaker 2: he said, if Kim Ward were going in last year's draft,
Speaker 2: he would have been the seventh best quarterback.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Like out of that group we've just seen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And that's why I think people are so low on
Speaker 4: this on this draft when it comes to quarterbacks because crazy,
Speaker 4: not because they're not good. They just came behind what
Speaker 4: I keep telling you is the best quarterback draft of all.
Speaker 1: Times early on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I returns of there.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. They both Knicks proved to be good. Michael Pennix.
Speaker 4: We didn't even get to see JJ McCarthy, Specer Rattler
Speaker 4: played some good football last year, like they were beyond
Speaker 4: deep at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Number two Browns, it's Travis Hunter, right, The Brown's gone Brown.
Speaker 3: Do you not think Cleveland they already got Miles Gary.
Speaker 4: They just pay him some dust Yep, they're saying to theyself,
Speaker 4: what if we got him in.
Speaker 3: Up dual card of book ends? You know how they think.
Speaker 4: Instead of thinking about, how about we add a receiver
Speaker 4: with Jared Judy and a conner with Denzel Award. Now
Speaker 4: I'm going to say the Brown's gonna do the right thing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say they're gonna draft Travis Hunt.
Speaker 3: They should, But you think they go draft a due card?
Speaker 1: No, No, I think it's gonna be Travis Hunter. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Trevor Hunter. You listen to their gym.
Speaker 2: I think they want Travis Hunter, and frankly, they need
Speaker 2: something they can sell.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's the right pick.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if your Brown fans look, it's over a quarterback, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: So why not get a guy who I think is exciting.
Speaker 2: They can say Jersey easy, easy, and you get a
Speaker 2: hell of a player.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think I go Travis Hunter with the number two pick,
Speaker 4: so that automatically puts.
Speaker 3: Which I don't want this to happen.
Speaker 4: Abdua Carter in New York with Triba Dough with sexy
Speaker 4: Dixie Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that defense.
Speaker 4: Will be yes, solidy, it will be very salty.
Speaker 3: If the Giants take up d a call with number
Speaker 3: three pick.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where they're gonna go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, possibility they take Shador and I know they've interviewed Sture,
Speaker 2: but I think they got that door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think they go their way. Now they
Speaker 4: leave the Patriots at four. They have to go offensive line.
Speaker 4: You just got Drake May that's your franchise guy. Now
Speaker 4: you got to protect your franchise guy.
Speaker 3: We went did it with Larry mc thompson. They gonna
Speaker 3: go do it with LSU's Will Campbell. I think they.
Speaker 1: Thomas right, Thomas Will Campbell.
Speaker 3: What's his name? Wi Will Campbell sry. I think they
Speaker 3: do it Will Campbell.
Speaker 4: Some people think his arms not long enough, but most
Speaker 4: definitely got the best feet in the draft.
Speaker 3: Files his offensive line.
Speaker 4: If you're right there, if you're New England, you have
Speaker 4: to go protection.
Speaker 3: You gotta go Will camp.
Speaker 2: When you hear that, because that's the one knock on
Speaker 2: Will Campbell right. Oh, his arm, he doesn't have the
Speaker 2: arm length. Is that overplayed?
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not like he go to thing
Speaker 3: about officsive live.
Speaker 4: If they had what we call kangaroo arms, all right,
Speaker 4: short arms, they can't make that defensive end. Run the
Speaker 4: hump right now, when you run the hump, that's forcing
Speaker 4: him to run wider than he usually was.
Speaker 3: If you have short arms, now that's closed.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna foot closer to the quarterback because you
Speaker 4: don't have long arms. That will force most tackles to
Speaker 4: move to guard once they make it to.
Speaker 1: The league point Jackson five, right, Jackson five?
Speaker 3: What are they gonna do. Now.
Speaker 4: This is the one that I was like, they got
Speaker 4: in ten, so they don't need to go running back,
Speaker 4: so they don't need to go genty.
Speaker 3: To me, a lot of people might disagree to me.
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter is the number one wide receiving his draft,
Speaker 4: but he the number two corner in this draft.
Speaker 3: You Will Johnson. Will Johnson is the truth. If I
Speaker 3: have never seen the truth.
Speaker 4: He can flat out play They're like hell, but we
Speaker 4: ain't seen him playing the up zone.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear all that.
Speaker 4: This guy makes big plays in big games and he
Speaker 4: been doing it since he got to college. If you
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars, you got running back, you got quarterback,
Speaker 4: you got wide received go get your shut down corner,
Speaker 4: and I think that's what they getting Will Johnson right
Speaker 4: there at five.
Speaker 1: What about Mason Graham?
Speaker 4: You know what, I being Mason Graham, and I think
Speaker 4: that'll be a great fit right there a Mason. But
Speaker 4: how much can you think Mason Graham is gonna change
Speaker 4: a game? Do you think Mason Graham puts them ahead
Speaker 4: of the coachs? Do you think Mason Graham put them
Speaker 4: ahead up of the type Like do you think how
Speaker 4: much does he add.
Speaker 3: To this team.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're right in that a corner,
Speaker 2: a shutdown corner, can affect the game more.
Speaker 1: It's just that the Jack's defensive line has been.
Speaker 3: Bad for a long time.
Speaker 4: They got past rushers, they got Edges, right, they got
Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell at the cornerback position. You match him up
Speaker 4: with Will Johnson. Now you got to tandem. That allows
Speaker 4: their defensive line more time to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying I would go corner there. Most
Speaker 4: people go detail. I understand whichever one wins six the
Speaker 4: Raiders as Yes, I'm just saying, you got Geno. We know,
Speaker 4: we know how coach is Pete Carroll? Like, this is
Speaker 4: what I love about Pete carry I gotta say this.
Speaker 4: He is a Hobbay hater. Every time Hogba make a move,
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll come right behind it.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: They was at s C and Hogball was at Stamford.
Speaker 4: Hated on him, beat him. How I came to the lead, Pete.
Speaker 3: Carroll came to the lead, beat him, went to the
Speaker 3: same division as him. No listen to me.
Speaker 4: Howba went to the forty nine ers, Pete Carroll went
Speaker 4: to Seattle beat him. I a hogball comes back, ready
Speaker 4: to beat him one more time. Come to the Chargers.
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll say, who got a job open in the
Speaker 4: AFC West.
Speaker 3: The Rain Division? They raised their head.
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll say, I'm back. Pete Carroll forever hates on Hobba.
Speaker 4: Howboy want to be great? Not on Pete Carroll's watch.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Ashton Genty to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: pass him up.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's definitely I know that he gets
Speaker 2: a lot of Saquon sort of comparisons.
Speaker 3: I think he's aving Kamara.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think is just one of one, yeah,
Speaker 1: one on one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's definitely a special.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's a special player.
Speaker 4: And I know Pete Carell loves to run the ball,
Speaker 4: like yeah, similar play defense, run the ball.
Speaker 3: That's what Pete care I want to do. Continue yoha ba.
Speaker 1: Hate at seven? The New York Jets. What are the
Speaker 1: Jets gonna do? They're gonna go with the big tackle
Speaker 1: out of Missouri.
Speaker 3: No, that's why I said they're goo Mason Graham's team.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, right, put him beside big Quinn Williams. You
Speaker 3: got a rotation now?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right, Now, if you don't want to
Speaker 4: go him, you can go mibu miabo.
Speaker 1: Are mumbo mambo.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, go tackle, go Offenser, tackle a dtackle. You
Speaker 3: won't lose with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Right now because they just need helping the trenches.
Speaker 3: They need to help everywhere.
Speaker 4: They need nine one one services, They need help into
Speaker 4: New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Now, they had a great draft.
Speaker 4: What was that three four years ago when they got
Speaker 4: what Gary Wilson, Sauce Saws and they got Jamaine Johnson.
Speaker 3: So three first rounders in that one. So I would
Speaker 3: I would go tackle, Okay, I would go offensive tackle
Speaker 3: in that one.
Speaker 2: At eight, we have the Carolina Panthers. What the Panthers
Speaker 2: gonna do?
Speaker 4: The Panthers, this has been a hard one right here.
Speaker 4: They reinforced their offensive line. I think they take the
Speaker 4: wide receiver from Arizona. Yeah, McMillan.
Speaker 3: I think they take McMillian because I don't feel like
Speaker 3: they got a true number one wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's true.
Speaker 4: So I think right if I was deal, I would
Speaker 4: take tight end. Okay, all right, that's where I go.
Speaker 2: They Jon Sanders out of Texas. Who was the guy
Speaker 2: that think they got last year?
Speaker 1: Who's really good?
Speaker 3: Not Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1: Well, Tyler Warren is different.
Speaker 4: I would take if I was the Carolina Pounds, I
Speaker 4: would take Tyler one with this pick.
Speaker 3: I think they go tech Nick Milling. Okay, but I
Speaker 3: would take one. I would take one. Take one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at nine, is this where Shad goes to the Saints.
Speaker 1: I think he's got to go top ten, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has to. I think this.
Speaker 4: The best quarterbacks usually go anywhere from ten to like
Speaker 4: thirty one. Okay, we haven't had a number one pick
Speaker 4: the quarterback in the playoffs in the last ten years
Speaker 4: besides Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, think about the.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jacksons of the world, all right, When in the
Speaker 4: back of the first round, think about Drew Brees. When
Speaker 4: the first pick of the second round, when you go later,
Speaker 4: you go to a better team in a better situation.
Speaker 4: I don't think sharduer is the type of player because
Speaker 4: this is what I call shoulder Shaduur is Drew Brees
Speaker 4: with a gold chain. They have everybody talked about the
Speaker 4: same thing. Not the strong is on They're not the
Speaker 4: tallest quarterbacks. They're not the fastest, but mentally they can
Speaker 4: manipulate the defense. They know where to get the ball
Speaker 4: out to, they can manipulate the pocket. They don't throw
Speaker 4: over the offensive line, they throw in between the offensive line.
Speaker 4: Same guid to me, I would love to see him
Speaker 4: go to either Pittsburgh or somewhere like that.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would love to have him, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And now you've got a whole franchise around you, your defense,
Speaker 4: you got a running game off everything set up for
Speaker 4: you to win. But you're right, he probably gonna end
Speaker 4: up in New Orleans and they ain't cap Hill all right. Uh,
Speaker 4: they do have a running back, they got chrys Olave,
Speaker 4: a wide receiver. Old line probably needs a little tuning up.
Speaker 4: But this is probably where he lands at.
Speaker 3: Now. Is it the best spot? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Chain I say it's got a lot of work to
Speaker 1: do as an organization.
Speaker 4: I just don't think that's where the sinks think that's
Speaker 4: where they I don't think that's where he lands at.
Speaker 3: I don't. I do think this way he lands I
Speaker 3: don't want him.
Speaker 2: To, Okay, I don't got him too at ten Bears
Speaker 2: dumb bears, Kelvin Banks, Texas.
Speaker 3: It's time. They just reinforced the office a line.
Speaker 4: They just paid all that money getting another Maller and
Speaker 4: then that line is just like Supreme.
Speaker 3: You don't think Caleb gonna sit there and whistle penchdeak.
Speaker 1: But don't they have Cole Comett.
Speaker 4: Don't know addition had Barby Brown they did. That's all
Speaker 4: I'm telling you is, listen, I think at this spot,
Speaker 4: if you Chicago, I go, I run it up there
Speaker 4: and get Tyler warn Yeah. Now I got two whips
Speaker 4: at tight end. Now I got I got two number
Speaker 4: one receivers with d J Moore, rond of Doomsey, I
Speaker 4: got guys right, and you know, being Johnson, he just
Speaker 4: had the porter in Detroit.
Speaker 3: They're going title war. I mean to be a hell
Speaker 3: of a peck. I'm gonna say, I feel like they're
Speaker 3: going tile war before we get to our voicemails.
Speaker 2: And also we should mention we have Lorenzo Alexander coming
Speaker 2: up on the show, Gang coming up on the shows.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome. We were talking about Shadoor, so
Speaker 2: of course Anna Proud Buffalow Colorado Buffalo by Proud Buffalo.
Speaker 2: The debate on Travis Hunder and Shadeur getting their jerseys retired.
Speaker 2: To me, Travis Hunder is a no brainer, all right,
Speaker 2: generation run the Heisman. He won the Heightsman Trophy out
Speaker 2: to an automatic.
Speaker 3: But you don't think you should let the school semester
Speaker 3: in before you do it? Like, like, what is the case?
Speaker 1: What did Shadeur Sanders do?
Speaker 2: I don't everybody says he helped revitalize Colorado football? Colorado
Speaker 2: football won a Natty in nineteen ninety. Colorado football has
Speaker 2: had all Americans whose jerseys have not been retired for
Speaker 2: the Steward Cordell Steuw was a second team All America
Speaker 2: at quarterback.
Speaker 3: What did you just do? Hasn't had in jersey?
Speaker 4: Retire Rashaan Salom Like these guys, these guys that been
Speaker 4: there and done that. Michael Westbrook who I played with, Yes,
Speaker 4: favors all of these guys, Deon Figures, all of these guys.
Speaker 4: You don't let the semester end and you Retireed Jinks.
Speaker 4: They just played their last game in December.
Speaker 1: What did they win?
Speaker 3: Nothing? As many games as it did Man thirteen and twelve.
Speaker 1: Did they win a big twelve Championship. No, they got
Speaker 1: blown out in what the Alamo Bowl?
Speaker 3: What did he win? Nothing? Now, should Couz Trail won
Speaker 3: the Heisman? You have to put the higher.
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is different.
Speaker 2: He's one of the most generational two way players of
Speaker 2: sport has ever seen. I feel like people just group
Speaker 2: them together like they're one guy. They're two different Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2: It's not even a question. Of course, Shador is different. Also,
Speaker 2: let me put it to you this wee. We're talking
Speaker 2: quarterbacks from last year. Michael Pennix Junior First Team All American?
Speaker 1: Is his jersey retired?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Jaydon Daniels won the Heisman Trophy?
Speaker 2: Is his jersey retired? Bo Knicks went what what did
Speaker 2: he go? At?
Speaker 1: Oregon twenty two and five? Won the Fiesta Bowl?
Speaker 3: Is his jersey retired?
Speaker 2: J J.
Speaker 3: McCarty won the National Jenny. Is his jersey retired?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams been the first pick of the first round
Speaker 4: since he was a twelfth grader, Right, jersey not retired.
Speaker 3: First of all, it's time that you need to let
Speaker 3: it sever nate. You see what I'm saying. Yes, like
Speaker 3: you supposed to did this like ten.
Speaker 4: Years from now? Yes, bring them back, retire the jersey.
Speaker 4: Colorado was so anxious to have an athlete.
Speaker 3: They were like, they just graduate.
Speaker 4: They haven't graduated yet, but we're going to retire there.
Speaker 4: So nobody never wear two or twelve again.
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders is very good, has been a great quarterback.
Speaker 2: Okay, however, when you retire a jersey, as I was
Speaker 2: saying to Maddie, I'm like, listen, if Alabama retired every
Speaker 2: very good player, you have seen guys wearing one O
Speaker 2: four the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you never have it.
Speaker 4: Jackson State University, Swack ain't retired shit to do a
Speaker 4: jersey on Travis Jersey because guess what, we got hall
Speaker 4: of famers there, Walter Payton and monkst Up, six hall
Speaker 4: of famers went to Jackson State.
Speaker 3: They ain't in a rush to do this. So maybe
Speaker 3: because of the leck of Hall of famers that Colorado has.
Speaker 4: They was they was forced to put a portrait of
Speaker 4: the vice president did on the wall not the president
Speaker 4: the vice president?
Speaker 6: Can I just say something, yes, as a buff when
Speaker 6: you have not won in many, many years. This was
Speaker 6: a very This is a historical season.
Speaker 3: Nothing was history about it. Besides the housm right, I.
Speaker 6: Will say I'm not ors is a little confusing to me.
Speaker 6: That was a confusing retirement Travis Hunter. Like we said
Speaker 6: generational talment, Heisman winner, but what about what about the students?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 6: I get it, but it's a little different. But it's
Speaker 6: when are you going to have all the Sanders family there?
Speaker 7: Ever?
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you just goes by, We'll see.
Speaker 2: And also this is the problem too when you say,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, if his name isn't Sanders, he's not
Speaker 2: getting his jersey retire. So when people say this is
Speaker 2: the Sanders family, with all due respect, the Sanders family
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with whether or not you deserve
Speaker 2: to have your jersey retiring. What did you do on
Speaker 2: the football?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Anna brought up winning, the fact that Colorado
Speaker 4: has went through a draft. Let's not act like I
Speaker 4: haven't been there before. You've been in national championships.
Speaker 6: Before, ten years before I was born, ten years before
Speaker 6: I was born a national champion and I don't even know.
Speaker 6: I'm might have to cut this part out. But with
Speaker 6: nil and how the college football landscape has changed, we
Speaker 6: may not sound like a pessimist and like a sad
Speaker 6: we be buff, but like we may never win a
Speaker 6: national championship again, just solely because we're not in the
Speaker 6: SEC and we don't have we don't have the Texas
Speaker 6: we don't have that Texas Fund that you guys have.
Speaker 6: All we have is the Sanders and what their family
Speaker 6: has done, so we can cry for.
Speaker 2: I just love the opinion that if you retire a jersey,
Speaker 2: you have to meet a very elite standard, and that
Speaker 2: standard should not be hey we're good again, or hey
Speaker 2: you're really good. Retiring your jersey is series. It's serious.
Speaker 2: Let's not lower the bar and say, hey, you brought
Speaker 2: us back for a couple of season.
Speaker 1: It's like now, let's like this.
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt is the whoopy cushion of their ceco. Right when
Speaker 4: it comes to football, everybody knows this j. Cutler took
Speaker 4: them to a monumental season. The Cutler, Yeah, they ain't
Speaker 4: retire his jersey to this day. Ain't the best quarterback
Speaker 4: they by far, but the best they have ever had.
Speaker 4: Colorado was just such in a rush to glorify nothing.
Speaker 4: What like, when we tell the story of the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four season, it's gonna be Colorado did nothing like.
Speaker 3: They did nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, think about it, if you listen, if you believe,
Speaker 2: here's the thing, you can't have it both ways. If
Speaker 2: you believe that Coach Prime is going to bring in
Speaker 2: great players and he's a hell of a cut a
Speaker 2: lot of people do, then guess what. You're gonna have
Speaker 2: a lot of players, players who were this good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be like, dude, another top ten pick.
Speaker 2: This guy's an All American offense. Now we're a program
Speaker 2: that is relevant again and all of a sudden, Now
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Are you just every person
Speaker 2: who's decent, Because if you believe in Coach Prime, then
Speaker 2: at the same time, you can't say, well, never be
Speaker 2: good again, because you're also saying Coach Prime is going
Speaker 2: to lead you to prominence. Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, we believe in him fully, that's why he
Speaker 6: we have that five year we I talked about as
Speaker 6: if I'd like a part of it, But he's signed
Speaker 6: a five year contract. He says he's gonna say if
Speaker 6: he's truly not going anywhere, then I'd like to see
Speaker 6: continuous success. But I do think this These past two
Speaker 6: seasons have been complete outliers, if not a miracle with
Speaker 6: the I mean truly, if you look where Colorado sports
Speaker 6: were headed and the last five years my time as
Speaker 6: a student, Like you never would have thought that this
Speaker 6: was what he was our only hope at a successful season. Truly,
Speaker 6: after all the coaching changes we had, like back to
Speaker 6: back coaching changes and end the transfer portal was insane.
Speaker 6: It was insanity prior to even so now that I listened.
Speaker 3: To Anna, everything happened at Colorado because of low expectations.
Speaker 8: They expectations was so low that just to win and
Speaker 8: wanted to be an academic at institution, so there was
Speaker 8: a large emphasis on academics, and athletics fell to the
Speaker 8: wayside for a bit, but they.
Speaker 4: Ain't had college work no more. College has always benefited
Speaker 4: from sports. Sports is the generator for sure.
Speaker 6: I hear you on that. I mean, I could keep
Speaker 6: this topic is very interesting.
Speaker 4: No, I understand how this is close to your heart,
Speaker 4: but but you can't agree with us to not let
Speaker 4: years go by before you start retiring jerseys.
Speaker 3: Is this thirst trapping? Y'all was thirst trapping. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what y'all did.
Speaker 4: Y'all got on Instagram as a university and just thirst
Speaker 4: trapped everything.
Speaker 6: Not not for Travis, but for Travis is totally different.
Speaker 1: Travis, I will say the timing. I've never I mean never.
Speaker 3: Seen seen in high school jinks, not even in high school.
Speaker 1: I agree, I've never seen at any level.
Speaker 3: You played the same year that your never retired.
Speaker 4: Nobody has ever ever, not Lawrence Taylor, not Barry Sanders,
Speaker 4: not nobody.
Speaker 3: This has never happened.
Speaker 4: Like, at what point did the class I mean that
Speaker 4: the school president and talk to somebody saying, you know what,
Speaker 4: we need to get this done now, we need to
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 3: We need to get this done in listed ninety days.
Speaker 3: But the kids haven't graduated listening ninety days. No, that
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. It supposed to be this rekindle moment.
Speaker 4: It supposed to be a moment where you and your
Speaker 4: ex teammates come back together and remember what y'all did
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: Last time we saw stir Sentators in the Colorado uniform,
Speaker 2: they got beat by BYU and the Alamo Ball thirty
Speaker 2: six fourteen, and they just give it, just give it
Speaker 2: a pause, just give it a break.
Speaker 3: And they got his cliques brunched. Listen, listen, I don't know,
Speaker 3: but guess what in the sec we don't Award. Okay,
Speaker 3: we the word greatness, right it are you great? Are
Speaker 3: you not? It's just too many guys to compare you to.
Speaker 4: You ain't going to Texas and because you got thirteen wins,
Speaker 4: you're gonna retire your jersey and put it by Earl Campbell's.
Speaker 2: Not now Quinn yours. He's been in the college football
Speaker 2: playing two straighters. He get this jersey, will never see
Speaker 2: that ever, see that. He's not gonna be by Vince Young.
Speaker 2: He says, he's not gonna do that because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day.
Speaker 3: You ain't dead enough. You didn't bless this school.
Speaker 4: You know why they got a big old portrait of
Speaker 4: friends move because we were ranked number one in the nation.
Speaker 4: Whooping Alabama? Whooping there lest Shoe took Florida to the
Speaker 4: wood sheds. I walked in the wood shed where the
Speaker 4: gator came out, had shoes, a bell in a hat
Speaker 4: and days you have to like accomplish something I don't
Speaker 4: even think Georgia, then retire chump.
Speaker 2: That's probably how they not.
Speaker 3: I don't think. So, it's just too many, do you
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: But but but Colorado, like yeah today, I know, I
Speaker 4: know y'all just played Friday, Samdy theo Jersey's going under
Speaker 4: wrapt up?
Speaker 3: You do you remember?
Speaker 2: And we'll get to the ads. But this is Colorado
Speaker 2: Relay because I've always like to see you a lot.
Speaker 2: And I remember everybody like, yeah, I remember when they
Speaker 2: came down to Austin.
Speaker 1: I was an intern.
Speaker 2: You remember Keith Jackson, the great Key Jackson, right call
Speaker 2: college football, and that's when Rashaan Salam, well, it was
Speaker 2: unbelievable and they came down and took it to us
Speaker 2: and it was like the third fourth game of the season.
Speaker 1: And as an intern, it's before the internet.
Speaker 9: They said, hey, you go out and you asked Keith
Speaker 9: Jackson about Rashawn Salam and trying to win a Heisman Trophy,
Speaker 9: which you did, and so you know, I'm a nervous kid,
Speaker 9: and I asked Keith Jackson.
Speaker 2: You know, Keith, you know, before you go, what do
Speaker 2: you think about Rashaan Salam's chances to win the Heisman?
Speaker 2: And he goes, I'm sold sick and tired everybody talking
Speaker 2: about the Osmond this early blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And so the cameraman behind me wants this answer.
Speaker 2: He goes, Keith, come on, man, he lied, He goes,
Speaker 2: we came all the way down from from Dallas for this,
Speaker 2: even though we were from Austin. And he turns to
Speaker 2: the camera and he goes and he said the real word.
Speaker 1: He goes, eh, Dallas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just and we were like, oh, yep, interviews over
Speaker 2: Christmas guess what see you what on and a rolled us.
Speaker 3: I mean they were also no listens. They've had glory years.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like, and maybe Anna because she's so
Speaker 4: poort of the youth, she can't see through those glory years.
Speaker 3: Leanses, this is her glory years.
Speaker 6: Yes, these are my glory years, and I love it.
Speaker 6: I'm literally graduated the year before Dion came in, so
Speaker 6: it's fresh. It's a fresh wound. How bad we were,
Speaker 6: and that impacted my college experience. You know what. People
Speaker 6: used to go to the games just to see the
Speaker 6: buffalo run around the field, not to see the talent,
Speaker 6: not to see any advice. And truly, people are now
Speaker 6: going to the games because of the talent, and that
Speaker 6: has changed Colorado, Colorado's trajectory for football for the next
Speaker 6: few years. And that makes me happy.
Speaker 2: Good graduate said, guys, give us a call tell Anna
Speaker 2: that she's right seven oh three seven six seven four
Speaker 2: one night, or you can email us watch and get
Speaker 2: left at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Any dudes of minds?
Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, wait, am I voicemails or oh or
Speaker 6: oh you know Studiuman voices first.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll get to you guys. And for the record,
Speaker 6: you'll have to stick around because we're going to do
Speaker 6: more voicemails at the end of the show, so be
Speaker 6: sure to stick around for that. Let me go, Sorry,
Speaker 6: I thought I was prepared. Okay, first one, Hey, thanks.
Speaker 5: Fred, Nanna. How's it going, man, It's Fred Florida.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Just call them excited about the draft this week. I
Speaker 5: just want to see what your input was on a
Speaker 5: lot of different opportunities that we trade out. Do you
Speaker 5: like the defensive back position to draft? I know we
Speaker 5: can't get anybody as good as spread, but we'll take
Speaker 5: somethingbody good or defensive end or O line. I just
Speaker 5: want to let you know I appreciate y'all. Y'all good commanders.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he Xi, I do. I think we're gonna
Speaker 4: back out of there. I think that's a chance we can.
Speaker 4: I think we can, especially when all you keep hearing
Speaker 4: in this draft is it's no difference between player twenty
Speaker 4: and player seventy five, meaning.
Speaker 3: The grades between them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that close. You want more draft capital, you might
Speaker 4: have to bag out of there. But if the guy
Speaker 4: falls to you, you take him right there. I like
Speaker 4: chavonn Ravel out of East Carolina. Okay, six three cornerback
Speaker 4: run with the win. Uh. I think when you think
Speaker 4: about Revel, think about a faster version of Richard Sherman.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, that's what this kid is.
Speaker 4: And uh, I think he'll he'll be one of them
Speaker 4: player that if you follow in twenty nine, like I
Speaker 4: gotta get this Yeah.
Speaker 3: James Pierce Jr. From Tennessee Rush Edge Rush, Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: If he there, I think you have to pull the
Speaker 3: trigger and get him.
Speaker 4: So it's a couple of guys that if they're still there,
Speaker 4: you don't put the car in reverse and try to
Speaker 4: get to the second round. I think it's a couple
Speaker 4: of guys that you're like, yeah, I'm gonna pull the
Speaker 4: trigger for this guy. I don't think as many as
Speaker 4: people think it is. I don't think we make a
Speaker 4: draft pick on the first day.
Speaker 2: I mean I can see that, like you said, it
Speaker 2: depends on the talent available, and you never know what.
Speaker 2: Adam Peters, the man is always thinking about what.
Speaker 4: You know, You're always thinking forward. You're always thinking forward.
Speaker 4: You got to say, you know what. And then also
Speaker 4: with us selectively being there at number twenty nine, and
Speaker 4: we just said in our little mock draft that Cleveland
Speaker 4: takes tral yep, they might try to get back in
Speaker 4: that first round to get Jackson Dark at twenty.
Speaker 3: Nine to have their fifty option interesting on them. So
Speaker 3: it's it's getting crazy.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be different because we're gonna be out, you know,
Speaker 2: covering the draft for the team, and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot different vibed last year because there's so many
Speaker 2: questions now.
Speaker 3: Draft Parter was over right in second it was all
Speaker 3: let's get out of here. Now we got to wait
Speaker 3: to the whole draft. We ain't probably gonna make a
Speaker 3: hold of one cloud.
Speaker 6: My goodness. Okay, next next voicemail.
Speaker 2: Shoot, Jing, what up?
Speaker 3: What up?
Speaker 7: This is a rhul from other than this is a
Speaker 7: rule for Virginia huge Commander's fan Redskins fan benefit. Since
Speaker 7: I was eight, So I was born in two thousands,
Speaker 7: so I've been a fence I was eight years old.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's been a long time since The Commanders
Speaker 7: has you know, I've had success that this has been
Speaker 7: the most fun season I've had. Jayden has given the
Speaker 7: whole franchise, you know, hope and fans hope. But I
Speaker 7: just want to hop on and say, you know, love
Speaker 7: listening to the show, love listening to the pod every week.
Speaker 10: And also you know when the draft.
Speaker 7: Coming up, and you know this probably will be like
Speaker 7: after the draft, so you know we'll know who the
Speaker 7: Commander's pick. But I have a good feeling, you know,
Speaker 7: a past rusher is probably the most ideal, but sing
Speaker 7: a running back wouldn't be wouldn't be a bad option.
Speaker 7: I think it's you know, having an upgrade at running back,
Speaker 7: getting someone younger. Yeah, so the same, thank you guys
Speaker 7: for an amazing show you guys have every week. I
Speaker 7: love watching it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4: Bro appreciate he was giving us. He made me think
Speaker 4: about something. Okay, he was like, this season has been
Speaker 4: the best season in my life. So it made me
Speaker 4: look at him through his own eyes, through Anna's eyes
Speaker 4: because like him.
Speaker 1: Anna, I love where you're going with this.
Speaker 4: Anna has not seen the glory. He hasn't seen the glory.
Speaker 4: But guess what he doesn't do. He don't forget about
Speaker 4: the Derrick Greens of the world. He doesn't forget about
Speaker 4: the child's man's, the dix toy manly. He know it
Speaker 4: was glory is but you know, my years and the
Speaker 4: years afterwards we weren't so good.
Speaker 3: But he ain't retiring. Ja Jana.
Speaker 2: I was like around my gosh, I was like, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is a good.
Speaker 3: Cough, the bridge whatever.
Speaker 6: I'm allowed to have joy in my life.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, sure, sure, okay.
Speaker 6: So running backs thoughts.
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I'm always taking a running back. I just
Speaker 4: because it's so many of them. Twenty five plus running
Speaker 4: backs can get drafted in this draft. That's deep like
Speaker 4: last year deep running back class. Like last year was
Speaker 4: the class of the quarterbacks. This is the class of
Speaker 4: the running backs.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And this guy's from Quins Jukins. Come on, Treyvon Henson.
Speaker 4: They played for the same school.
Speaker 2: It's a kid from Carolina Marion Hampton or North Carolina.
Speaker 3: He could run the ball.
Speaker 4: You got, You've got DJ Gidding, you got so many dude,
Speaker 4: Rocket Sander's I love Rocket Sander's. You got Johnson from
Speaker 4: my It just God, I got I the guy. And
Speaker 4: when you got a running back draft that dep you
Speaker 4: don't have to You won't have to draft.
Speaker 3: That position early. Yeah, you draft that.
Speaker 4: Position late, you're gonna get the same quality guy.
Speaker 3: It's just about what flavor do you want? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you want speed? Do you want big bokey downhill?
Speaker 4: You want to scatterboo?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: It just it's what flavor is for you. This is
Speaker 3: what this draft is at time, Yes, at time?
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Speaker 1: Let's bring in the One Man Gang. SOO have a
Speaker 1: very special guest now.
Speaker 2: So if you know the history of this franchise at all,
Speaker 2: you know the One Man Gang, Lorenzo Alexander, who spent
Speaker 2: the bulk of his career right here in Washington.
Speaker 1: Lorenzel, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2: And I just have to say, first of all, that
Speaker 2: background behind you is incredible. Well that's probably the best
Speaker 2: background we've ever seen. No.
Speaker 11: I appreciate that I finished my career at Buffalo and
Speaker 11: that was kind of one of the parting gifts when
Speaker 11: I when I retired. It's a really cool background, kind
Speaker 11: of gives you some of the highs of my career.
Speaker 11: And then it has like all the teams that I
Speaker 11: played for on here as well. So and then obviously
Speaker 11: we see the one man game and my man Fred
Speaker 11: Smooth and shot sprays gave me. I still remember that day.
Speaker 11: I'm actually writing a book about that one Man's game.
Speaker 11: But it's really about the people. Fred, you being one
Speaker 11: of those guys that really helped me become the person
Speaker 11: I am today in the career that I was able.
Speaker 10: To have just by those relationships.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: And I did give you that great name right there,
Speaker 4: and people don't know where it came from. Like I
Speaker 4: remember one day at practice, Lorenzo went from detail to
Speaker 4: our side linebacker to tidy end maybe play the little
Speaker 4: guard that day. So we got to the locker room
Speaker 4: and I was like, nah, man, your new name is
Speaker 4: one man Game. And this's what it was because this
Speaker 4: is what he was. Anything coaches asked him to do,
Speaker 4: he was willing to do it. A lot of players
Speaker 4: not willing to do that in the NFL. That's how
Speaker 4: you played fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Well, Rinzel, I was going to ask you about that
Speaker 2: because we want to talk to you about this Commander's
Speaker 2: Club and the draft.
Speaker 1: But when you look back at your own career, what
Speaker 1: are you most proud of?
Speaker 2: I mean, you're undrafted, you played fifteen years, even in
Speaker 2: your final year, you played sixteen games for the Bills,
Speaker 2: an All Pro. You've done a lot of different things
Speaker 2: in the NFL. So when you look back, what do
Speaker 2: you say that's the thing that stands out to me?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 10: I mean there's a ton of stuff.
Speaker 11: I mean, you just kind of run it off a
Speaker 11: lot of the things, but it really comes down to
Speaker 11: the relationships. I mean, you know, I've messed like Fred
Speaker 11: Shawe Springs, Mike Seller's big pro catch, Ghost in Rock
Speaker 11: carrac There's a ton of dudes that was on that team,
Speaker 11: Lenny Fletch here, I can go on and on. That
Speaker 11: had a significant impact on my life, and more so
Speaker 11: than on the football field, helped me become a man
Speaker 11: and really understand what it meant to be a husband
Speaker 11: and a father, a person in the community, and all
Speaker 11: that other stuff. I think it was just a byproduct
Speaker 11: of having those guys around help me show me, how
Speaker 11: do you play tackle? How do you play guard? How
Speaker 11: do you then go play outside back? Or how do
Speaker 11: you cover? How do you play special teams?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 10: With a byproduct of all those relationships throughout my career,
Speaker 10: So I would.
Speaker 11: Just say getting to know people pinching the league, still
Speaker 11: having close bonds with him, it's probably like the highlight
Speaker 11: of my career.
Speaker 10: And I would beg to say that.
Speaker 11: Most guys would say that same thing, regardless if they
Speaker 11: were a Hall of Famer or got to play, you know,
Speaker 11: one or two years in the league.
Speaker 4: Got I gotta ask you this though, because you and
Speaker 4: London had a fast and name intro into the league.
Speaker 4: Both of y'all was undrafted, both of y'all played fifteen years.
Speaker 4: Did you ever sit down with London and ask him
Speaker 4: how did he get his firday he did? Did you
Speaker 4: have that intimate conversation?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, why had that type of relationship?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 11: I would I would consider Flesh like a big bro
Speaker 11: to me. Obviously he came to the league. I think
Speaker 11: in like, what is that like twenty ninety nine, you know,
Speaker 11: so here's a couple of years on me. But every time,
Speaker 11: you know, back in the day was still today right
Speaker 11: where the stadium means a relationship to where we work,
Speaker 11: and most of us live out in northern Virginia's a
Speaker 11: forty five minute trip maybe an our our half on
Speaker 11: bad traffic, right, And so I used to ride with
Speaker 11: Fletch to the hotel and then to the games. We
Speaker 11: used to carpoon that our wives would pick us up
Speaker 11: after the game, and so we had thousands of just
Speaker 11: you know, conversations about what do it look like to
Speaker 11: be in the league, what do you need to do
Speaker 11: to be a professional, how would you mature our faith, walk,
Speaker 11: our kids.
Speaker 10: Our wives?
Speaker 11: And so I had a ton of time to ask
Speaker 11: when that's why I used to pick my brain or
Speaker 11: pick his brain on and just trying to figure out
Speaker 11: those little things that made him special, especially understanding he
Speaker 11: had the same journey in starting place that I had
Speaker 11: in my career. And so, yeah, I mean I still
Speaker 11: call Flesh from time to time, and even when I
Speaker 11: wasn't playing with Washington anymore, he used to call me
Speaker 11: watching film and be like, hey, Zoe, you need to
Speaker 11: be doing XYZ. So that relationship has been one of
Speaker 11: the I think foundational relationships of my career to really
Speaker 11: allow me to thrive on and off the field.
Speaker 1: Do you see anyone in today NFL that reminds you
Speaker 1: of you?
Speaker 2: Because you did so many different things and that's you know,
Speaker 2: and it leads it could be so specialized.
Speaker 1: Now you don't see that a lot.
Speaker 3: Don't say Travis Hunt. Don't say Travis Hunter.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, you know, I wish I could say it's
Speaker 11: probably somebody out there. The cool thing for me, you know,
Speaker 11: being an undrafted guy and being cut a couple of
Speaker 11: times and trying to find my wain in this league
Speaker 11: is when people say, hey, is there can we find
Speaker 11: a Lorizzo Alexander out there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 11: Because you know, everybody wants to be a Hall of
Speaker 11: famers set the mark. But it's cool for me when
Speaker 11: I see in social media when people are trying to
Speaker 11: find that guy, and I know there's guys out there
Speaker 11: that do multitude of things, that play special team outside
Speaker 11: backer right right here, I mean in the Arizona So.
Speaker 10: I probably see this team the most.
Speaker 11: A guy like a Dennis Gardeck, undrafted god has wear
Speaker 11: on special teams and then it's playing outside backer getting sacks.
Speaker 11: Buddha Banker obviously he got drafted, but very similar starting
Speaker 11: on special teams getting this opportunity doing the things on
Speaker 11: the back end. So there's guys out there that do it,
Speaker 11: but it it is hard. I don't know if anybody's
Speaker 11: ever done it to the extent I've done it. It'd
Speaker 11: be really cool to see, but most people don't remember.
Speaker 11: I was three fifteen, so what Fred is talking about, like,
Speaker 11: I was legitly playing guard, h de tackle, doing those
Speaker 11: things I was part of back in the old school.
Speaker 11: I was in that wedge, right, I was one of
Speaker 11: those guys running down the bust the wedge, and this
Speaker 11: game has just changed so much. And then over that
Speaker 11: time I lost to wait and became two thirty five,
Speaker 11: two forty five. So I don't know if anybody else
Speaker 11: has had that type of transformation that then they're standing
Speaker 11: off the ball and doing, you know, playing mike linebacker
Speaker 11: like I.
Speaker 10: Did towards the end of my career and even when
Speaker 10: I was in Washington a little bit.
Speaker 11: So I know there's people out there that the versatile
Speaker 11: I mean Fred just mentioned Travis Hunter. Obviously I'm not
Speaker 11: as talented physically, but I could go out there and
Speaker 11: do what I had to do with my own in
Speaker 11: my own regard I.
Speaker 4: Don't know how much you kept up with the team
Speaker 4: intimately to wash the Commander. This year we had some
Speaker 4: special team made its like Taylor Owns and Percy Butler
Speaker 4: and guys that was running down and you know, they
Speaker 4: basically reviatalized Washington Commander's football. Jaydon Daniels, I'm sure you
Speaker 4: know who he is because Arizona State out there with you.
Speaker 4: What did you think about what the team accomplished this
Speaker 4: year and what coach Quinn brought to the table.
Speaker 10: I just really I really love the overall culture of
Speaker 10: the team, right when you have shifts and what we've
Speaker 10: seen like change and what it's done to this organization
Speaker 10: to really really re energize the community around it. And
Speaker 10: just a consistency. I mean, I think that was one
Speaker 10: of the biggest.
Speaker 11: Things that has always been hard for really it's any organization,
Speaker 11: but in particular when you think about the Commanders, is
Speaker 11: having that consistent culture that is I think that builds
Speaker 11: longevity and legacy and then cope that with consistency at
Speaker 11: the head coaching.
Speaker 10: I think when I was there, we had four coaches
Speaker 10: over seven years. Easily look like like a team like
Speaker 10: Tom Lane, you probably had actually because I didn't have
Speaker 10: alla ball coach.
Speaker 11: I just had I had Gibbs z On Shanahan, right,
Speaker 11: And I know some guys got the book ind of both,
Speaker 11: and it actually had old ball coaching in the whoever
Speaker 11: who came in.
Speaker 3: After We had Marty Schottenheimen and spur Ye Yes Furrier.
Speaker 10: So right, you had those two. I didn't even get those.
Speaker 11: So just depending on when you got dropped in, right,
Speaker 11: that's five six coaches within a ten year period.
Speaker 10: It's really hard to develop any type of really dominance
Speaker 10: in a league when you're changing that office.
Speaker 11: So it's really cool to see what they're doing now,
Speaker 11: the consistency from top down, and I think that is
Speaker 11: what ultimately is going to build, you know, a pernial
Speaker 11: playoff team and a pretty or contender.
Speaker 10: When we see some of those other organizations who had
Speaker 10: figured that out. When you have like an Andy Reid
Speaker 10: or Sean McDermott or Mike.
Speaker 11: T at their organizations for you know, ten plus years,
Speaker 11: really changes the culture.
Speaker 10: And sustainability is key because now you have a coach
Speaker 10: that when you come in, I'm not teaching something new
Speaker 10: every year.
Speaker 11: You got people that know, you got advocates in the
Speaker 11: locker room, and they can push that to the younger
Speaker 11: guys much quicker and more efficiently than a coach can.
Speaker 4: Do you think you game that can ride and that
Speaker 4: similars is this simple as just picking the right quarterback,
Speaker 4: because come on, Zoe, we had teams with me and you, London,
Speaker 4: Sean Taylor.
Speaker 3: Shun Springs, like. We had talent everywhere.
Speaker 4: We had running backs, we had wide receiver, we had
Speaker 4: Chris Samuel, one of the best tackles, but we never
Speaker 4: was stable at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's this simple?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think it's Yeah, I think that
Speaker 10: is it.
Speaker 11: I mean, you gotta have elite quarterback play. You gotta
Speaker 11: have consistent quarterback play to give you yourself a chance.
Speaker 11: I also think culture right, because we had all that talent.
Speaker 11: Talent necessarily doesn't win stuff when you have other stuff
Speaker 11: that's going on to nobody ever knows about, right, And
Speaker 11: so I think it's a couple of things.
Speaker 10: A quarterback, we never had the lade. We had guys
Speaker 10: that could get back there, but they.
Speaker 11: Like j Campbell right yet for example, got drafted high,
Speaker 11: really good quarterback, but he had four offensive coordinators in
Speaker 11: four years.
Speaker 10: That's death, right, how hard that position is, and you
Speaker 10: got that.
Speaker 11: Many different ways of playing football and thought processes, he
Speaker 11: can never get comfortable. And I think when you have
Speaker 11: that and couple with a lack of a strong culture
Speaker 11: and identity of who we need to be, your talent
Speaker 11: can never flourish.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 11: I think you got guys that show out and could
Speaker 11: be pros, but you need pros from top down.
Speaker 10: I just don't need the stars to be pros. I
Speaker 10: need the.
Speaker 11: Minitarer guys or rookies everybody to come in kind of
Speaker 11: fighting for that same direction and really maximizing their effort.
Speaker 10: Because we know it's hard to win this league, and
Speaker 10: we got people kind of doing their own thing.
Speaker 11: Especially in the cities like DC, it's really hard to
Speaker 11: create that consistency and that because it's a lot of distractions.
Speaker 11: And so I think there was a couple of things
Speaker 11: working against us during that time, but we definitely had
Speaker 11: the ability to go out there and do it. We
Speaker 11: just never was able to pull all those stings together
Speaker 11: from I think a professionalism standpoint, a quarterback, and really
Speaker 11: a direction as far as head coach that we can
Speaker 11: we can put it and bottle it up. We can
Speaker 11: find one or two years like RG three lightning in
Speaker 11: a bottle, right, but we never could.
Speaker 10: It was never sustainable. Over the course of four or
Speaker 10: five years.
Speaker 2: You played alongside different quarterbacks, You've chased some quarterbacks during
Speaker 2: your very established curer in the NFL. When you look
Speaker 2: at Jay Dannis, just what do you see as a
Speaker 2: football player? What makes him special? Because we saw glimpses
Speaker 2: of it just Paul season long last year.
Speaker 11: Yeah, for me, it's a decision making I'm getting the
Speaker 11: ball in his hands process and I think a lot
Speaker 11: of that's colpled with the officer coordinating what they're asking
Speaker 11: him to do. The run game really helped him his
Speaker 11: ability to run to that dual thread ability, and you know,
Speaker 11: I think one of the things that people weren't quite
Speaker 11: sure about his durability. I know he had a couple
Speaker 11: of knicks here and there, but I don't think people
Speaker 11: understood that he would be able to handle four NFL season.
Speaker 11: But what really sets him apart is protecting the football
Speaker 11: and be able to process things to get the ball
Speaker 11: in his hands. And if you can continue to do
Speaker 11: that right, because that's the hardest thing because people this
Speaker 11: year is going to be the real Tel Tale because
Speaker 11: people have a year on him and they're going to
Speaker 11: give him different looks. Now, can he continue to grow
Speaker 11: in this offseason? But I really like the young man's demeanor,
Speaker 11: the way he approaches as a professional, and then his
Speaker 11: just his been able to see the game right and
Speaker 11: not see ghosts as we used to call it and
Speaker 11: be throwing the cast that ain't there. I think really
Speaker 11: is what set him a part as as a rookie
Speaker 11: and really let him have an a historic season.
Speaker 4: Well, I also think not only Dad, I think he
Speaker 4: learns from every play that he plays. I think he
Speaker 4: learns from every coach that he around. He said something
Speaker 4: the other day in the interview.
Speaker 3: I heard him.
Speaker 4: He said that he was talking to coach Herm Edwards
Speaker 4: one day and Ittwards told him.
Speaker 3: First of all, take care of the ball and let's
Speaker 3: make sure every drive end. Then a kick.
Speaker 4: We don't care if that kick is a punt. We
Speaker 4: don't care if that kick is a field goal, but
Speaker 4: we already have it being kickoff. So just that mentality
Speaker 4: of taking care of the ball and him being wise
Speaker 4: on his years, I think it made him special this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think we have time like Sterry carry
Speaker 10: around him too.
Speaker 11: He's because when you say that, sometimes I think some
Speaker 11: quarterbacks say, well, I'm anna protective baller, but I'm not
Speaker 11: gonna I'm not gonna go downfield because that's not really
Speaker 11: a high percentage throw and I have more of a
Speaker 11: chance to pick it off. He still was putting the
Speaker 11: ball down the field as well, so I think he
Speaker 11: did a great job of finding that balance between and
Speaker 11: I'm not going to do nothing crazy, but I am
Speaker 11: going to still make these dudes have to defend this
Speaker 11: entire field, especially with the weapons that I have around me.
Speaker 2: Brenzo, you mentioned that you're writing a book, which I
Speaker 2: think is super interesting. So what else is going on
Speaker 2: with you right now? It sounds like you've got a
Speaker 2: lot of irons of the fire.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I have four kids.
Speaker 11: So that keeps me busy, two of which are playing football,
Speaker 11: so I do a lot of coaching in the flag
Speaker 11: world as well.
Speaker 10: As my son is played tackle last year.
Speaker 11: So that has really been really cool to kind of
Speaker 11: get in that space and be a head coach dealing
Speaker 11: with these parents at times.
Speaker 10: But other than that, I'm helping legends transition out of
Speaker 10: the game.
Speaker 11: I worked for the league as an NFL Community Coordinator
Speaker 11: and just making sure that our guys understand that what
Speaker 11: they did in the league is special and unique and
Speaker 11: they are equipped to make a transition to any field
Speaker 11: that they choose. They just have to kind of dig
Speaker 11: in and lean into it and move forward, and as
Speaker 11: well as creating community and making sure they take advantage
Speaker 11: of the benefit.
Speaker 10: So I'm all over the place. That's the cool thing.
Speaker 10: I still get to be in the lock growing in
Speaker 10: a part of God's lives, which is what a lot
Speaker 10: of us miss. And so it's kind of built into
Speaker 10: my day to day based on what I've been able
Speaker 10: to connect myself to.
Speaker 4: I heard Arizona had his first triple digit warm weather
Speaker 4: day one hundred.
Speaker 3: What took you to Arizona? Though?
Speaker 10: Have you ever lived in Buffalo? That is why I'm
Speaker 10: in in the hottest place you can find in the
Speaker 10: in the US.
Speaker 11: Man, that Buffalo cold did something to me the first
Speaker 11: few years because I was playing on coming back to Virginia,
Speaker 11: to be honest, But after that first winter I had in.
Speaker 10: Buffalo, I was like, I don't want no winter, no cold,
Speaker 10: no nothing.
Speaker 11: It still gets a little cold here, but that's why
Speaker 11: I came back to az I played here for a
Speaker 11: couple of years and that I would.
Speaker 10: Much rather have that heat rather than shoveling snow or
Speaker 10: being cold.
Speaker 2: I just it just messed me up that one year
Speaker 2: I was up there, like I'm moving to the center
Speaker 2: of the sun, anywhere away from here, closer to the equators. Well, Lorenzo,
Speaker 2: we appreciate it, man. We're excited about covering the draft
Speaker 2: this week, and it's great to see you. What an
Speaker 2: incredible NFL career that you had, and I think it's
Speaker 2: awesome you're still working with the league with veterans as well,
Speaker 2: So thanks for being with us.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that one man game.
Speaker 1: Great to see him looks great.
Speaker 4: By the way, Listen, Skinny Zold is different. When I
Speaker 4: first met Zoe Zose three hundred and.
Speaker 3: Fifteen, I remember recovered, he was huge. Listen. I remember
Speaker 3: one season we came back from our season. He was like, smooth.
Speaker 3: I had to remake my body.
Speaker 4: I was like, So when he started playing, you know
Speaker 4: that rush outside linebacker and then it goes to the
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, I was like, that's.
Speaker 3: How you redefine yourself.
Speaker 4: Like it's so hard for an athlete to redefine themselves
Speaker 4: because whatever got you here, it worked, Yeah, and most
Speaker 4: people are scared to go away from that. That's why
Speaker 4: you see quarterbacks are not prone to change resisting to
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Yea, a wide receiver won't trade the cornerback,
Speaker 4: you know, because they're too comfortable with what they doing.
Speaker 4: When in life, to be great, you have to be
Speaker 4: good at being uncomfortable. And that's what Zoe's example. I
Speaker 4: got uncomfortable, so I changed everything. I bent my body
Speaker 4: to my wheel. And that's what happens when good things happened.
Speaker 4: You couldn't have told me this guy we're gonna play
Speaker 4: fifteen years in the league. Incredible, unbelievable, that's iron Man status.
Speaker 2: Great story, all right, Anna voicemails.
Speaker 6: Yes, we'll hit one more voicemail before we'll get to
Speaker 6: our game.
Speaker 7: Full of.
Speaker 3: Huh okay.
Speaker 6: All right, but here we go.
Speaker 2: Mister Hannah, how.
Speaker 5: You doing, young lady?
Speaker 4: Not a question for you, big dog.
Speaker 5: I know how you with a catalyst for the Burgundy
Speaker 5: on burnd On Bundy.
Speaker 4: I was, and I needed you to be a catalyst
Speaker 4: for this gold blood, white jerseys, black pants.
Speaker 7: She can pick the sock, she.
Speaker 4: Can pick the shoes, black helmels, black white jersey, white jersey,
Speaker 4: black pants.
Speaker 3: Skeptical about it.
Speaker 7: If you're not sure about it, that's the only time
Speaker 7: you're gonna hit me reference to reference Madden in regards
Speaker 7: of football, and I mean real NFL football.
Speaker 4: Go grab your son, pull up the TS five, the.
Speaker 7: Ex box six, look at the jersey colorway, and.
Speaker 6: You're not gonna be able to sit here and tell.
Speaker 4: Me that you don't like the black helmels with the white.
Speaker 7: Jerseys and the black pants.
Speaker 5: I got we gotta see it, We gotta we gotta
Speaker 5: do something else.
Speaker 3: Other than the all black. The all black is nice.
Speaker 10: So look, man, black helmets, white.
Speaker 3: Jerseys, no black, noaying on the table for this. Man,
Speaker 3: you for the fan base.
Speaker 10: Baby, you gotta stand on the table for this.
Speaker 5: And man, y'all gonna love it. I'm trying to tell
Speaker 5: you it's gonna look real nice when we got them
Speaker 5: flashing lights on Monday nights football Like.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't agree, disagree quick, I'm sorry. That's
Speaker 3: not good. He's not interior deference.
Speaker 6: Thank you for thank you for your calling your input.
Speaker 2: You do notice her as a Hello Anna, young lady smook.
Speaker 2: I'm like Anna has officially overtaken me.
Speaker 10: On this show.
Speaker 3: It took It took one episode. Hey listen, well he
Speaker 3: put together I didn't think it was fresh.
Speaker 4: Now let me counter your black helmets, white jersey, black pants.
Speaker 3: Probably he wanted white sox like in black shoes.
Speaker 1: This is not Bosston.
Speaker 3: No, this, this is not that.
Speaker 4: Now close your eyes and think about this Monday night
Speaker 4: football versus.
Speaker 3: To just say the kids that city, the Chiefs, they
Speaker 3: go all ready, we come out in all gold. Go
Speaker 3: help me. I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Twenty four carry gold, help me, gold jersey, gold pants,
Speaker 4: gold socks, gold shoes.
Speaker 6: Yock, serious, no, thank you?
Speaker 3: You see all right?
Speaker 4: Do y'all know like every year we do one week
Speaker 4: of color rush, right, you know the color rush like
Speaker 4: in the Apolis go all blue?
Speaker 3: All right, this team go all black. The Ravens went
Speaker 3: all purple.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that all gold won't be
Speaker 4: beat by nobody, That all gold will shining a whole differ.
Speaker 2: You don't think all burgundy would be better for doing
Speaker 2: Colorada already?
Speaker 9: Did?
Speaker 3: I am the forefather of the all burge.
Speaker 1: Is clean white across the board.
Speaker 3: No, every team in the league.
Speaker 4: Gold though at first, I mean I love the gold,
Speaker 4: but listen, I do like that more than white chops
Speaker 4: black jerseys.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, think about this, Think about this.
Speaker 4: When when La Charges go baby blue on baby blue,
Speaker 4: that is that not some of the hardest Like listen,
Speaker 4: it's all about bright colors. When you color rush, the
Speaker 4: team with the brighter colors look the best.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right?
Speaker 4: So when when when the Charges do it with either
Speaker 4: of their gold or they do it with the baby blue,
Speaker 4: nobody looks like them.
Speaker 3: Then when the dolphins come.
Speaker 4: Out in their aqua water on aqua water, can't nobody
Speaker 4: else do that?
Speaker 3: But y'all want to go white on white on white, no,
Speaker 3: gold on.
Speaker 4: Gold on gold and call it slinging semi bodsh right
Speaker 4: because but don't realize about slinging semi bar He's the
Speaker 4: only guy to lead the league in passing Russian No,
Speaker 4: no passing pun average interceptions.
Speaker 2: The Monday mustards, Yes, with a Monday mustard, whatever you.
Speaker 3: Want to call it. You can call it Sunday, the
Speaker 3: Sunday and gold. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Let us start the comments if you like the Monday
Speaker 1: mustards or Boss State.
Speaker 9: University University and white No, that ain't not colored white tops,
Speaker 9: white pants.
Speaker 3: No, but the gold will stick out in a different way.
Speaker 6: It will definitely be different.
Speaker 4: That's true, It'll be it gonna stick out in a
Speaker 4: whole different way. Like y'all ain't gonna know how good
Speaker 4: these guys are gonna look.
Speaker 3: And it all go.
Speaker 2: Maybe if it's more gold than yellow, I just worry
Speaker 2: the yellow really coming through.
Speaker 3: No, it's the we are burgery and gold.
Speaker 1: But you know those things.
Speaker 3: Is a thin line. It is a thin line. I
Speaker 3: say thin line.
Speaker 4: That's why I say, if I said twenty four care,
Speaker 4: go the hell Bruno Mars walk us out.
Speaker 3: I like the idea.
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Speaker 6: All right, are we ready for our game?
Speaker 3: I'm Ronald full of Well, was that pros not sealed mine?
Speaker 1: Because I did say, oh you seal them?
Speaker 6: Well, it'll just make for a more dramatic effect. So
Speaker 6: basically what's going to happen is we will shuffle our
Speaker 6: envelopes and basically whichever one you pick is the one
Speaker 6: you have to sell, even if you're full of Okay,
Speaker 6: all right, who would like to go first?
Speaker 3: So we're picking one, right, shuffle.
Speaker 6: And pick one of your own?
Speaker 3: All right, I still this thing.
Speaker 6: God, let's do it right, and we're allowed to ask
Speaker 6: you questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: My mom found out she was pregnant with me while
Speaker 4: playing a pick up football game with my uncles and
Speaker 4: her friends.
Speaker 1: I believe that you got football in your blood. I
Speaker 1: think that's the truth.
Speaker 6: I also think it's the truth.
Speaker 3: It is the truth.
Speaker 6: Oh that's a great fact.
Speaker 4: I mean I was born to play this game all
Speaker 4: right before I was, before I saw light, I.
Speaker 3: Was to peel.
Speaker 6: Okay, should I go or Janks? Do you want to go?
Speaker 3: Go ahead? Hannah?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll pick this one. Oh, and I folded mine.
Speaker 3: Hold on, don't look at my name, Dodo.
Speaker 6: Oh I subbed in as the mascot of one of
Speaker 6: my high school basketball games.
Speaker 1: I can absolutely see you doing that. You have a
Speaker 1: personality for it.
Speaker 3: That's truth. I think it's false. I think it's all lies.
Speaker 6: You think I'm full of we're calling Oh, you you're correct,
Speaker 6: I'm full of it.
Speaker 3: I never.
Speaker 2: Called it all right, Janks, I don't know which one
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 6: Who sees this ceiling of the envelope is much more dramatic.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was once a silver medallist in cross country at
Speaker 2: my high school state championships.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, what year was this at high school? It's
Speaker 6: your sophomore, junior, senior, junior year? Is your junior year?
Speaker 6: Varsity in Texas? Silver in the state in three A
Speaker 6: in three yes.
Speaker 2: Overall, I mean there's five classifications.
Speaker 6: This is three How many people were roughly in the race, like,
Speaker 6: how twelve?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Twelve?
Speaker 6: Total?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean the finals.
Speaker 6: What what I'm going to go with your full.
Speaker 3: Twelve.
Speaker 12: I was like, like, no, not in the state in Texas,
Speaker 12: not the way they burn. So do we get to
Speaker 12: talk about the other ones?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: I mean, we have a little bit of time. We'll
Speaker 6: do it quick quickly.
Speaker 3: We'll go through Joe, what was your truth?
Speaker 2: Because we'll know my truth is an old story, but
Speaker 2: it is. It's an old actress. I was once hit
Speaker 2: on by actress slash model Renee rus So in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: You told me about Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 6: It's like we're starting to know each other really well
Speaker 6: because not new Fred's story.
Speaker 4: Well, this one was a Scott dived in a squirrel
Speaker 4: suit nit a Grand Canyon.
Speaker 6: That was your that was your lie, that was your
Speaker 6: You can't hear it. He will one day, though. I
Speaker 6: have no doubt that you could end up doing that one. Okay,
Speaker 6: mine is I appeared to one of Dion Sanders vlogs
Speaker 6: at Boulder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 6: I did. I got I got made fun of by
Speaker 6: my team.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was pretty hyped to see Dion and it's pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 6: So like, hopefully no one ever finds it. You wouldn't
Speaker 6: be able to tell that's cute, but it's like I was.
Speaker 6: I was a year out. I was a year out
Speaker 6: of cop. We can't actually, I don't want to go
Speaker 6: into detail about this video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and looking evidence.
Speaker 1: We're gonna look forward. Well that's it for to get
Speaker 1: my podcast another great show.
Speaker 3: We got an on camera.
Speaker 4: Now, next time we get to talk to y'all, we'll
Speaker 4: know the newest members of the Washington Commandy another generation.
Speaker 3: We'll be drafted the next time we talk for him,
Speaker 3: and maybe.
Speaker 1: We'll see him in the Monday Mustards.
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll get his jersey retired in Colorado. And now
Speaker 3: you have to play that
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