1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: You're going to get an exclusive here. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: I got called by these folks saying they wanted to 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: do a documentary on Nickelodeon, and so. 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 3: I said, sure, the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 4: What a way to kick off the weekend. Mark Sommers is. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Here, Thank you? How are you well? 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: We're told and we're told everyone Mark Summers is coming in. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 3: Everyone's just kind of melted. Oh my god, is he 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: going to slim? You got a reputation, you know, throughout 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: my entire career. That's what people are afraid of that 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to slim Double Dare. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: I mean, let's talk about it. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: Let's talk about well, there's several things we're going to 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: talk about today, let's start with Double Dare. Of course, 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: this would you say, arguably put you on the map. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: Me and Nickelodeon at the same time, talk about it. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: They were running bad puppet shows at four in the 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: morning mostly and nobody was watching the channel, and they 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: decided they did a research, you know, focus group, and 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: kids said they lived vicariously through their parents game shows. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: They'd watched Prices Rider, we didn't have their own show, 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: and so they came up with this thing where they 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: were getting rewarded for getting messy, and they had auditioned 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: a thousand people in New York. Didn't like anybody, and 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: came to LA. I was the first person to audition. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: They auditioned me four times and it came down to 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: me and another person and. 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I called him up and I said, you're shooting in 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. What's going on? 30 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: They said, well, we can't decide because when they did 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: the auditions, they had grown ups playing the part of kids, 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: and they didn't know if we were good with kids. 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: So I suggested, why don't you fly us both in 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: New York and put us in a studio with kids, 35 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: And that's what they did and I got the job. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: And I said, well, after two thousand people, why did 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I get it? And they said at the end of 38 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: his audition, he said, you guys done. You want me 39 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: to do something else? And I looked at the camera 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: and I said, we'll be back with more doubledare after this, 41 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: I threw to commercial and they said that was more 42 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: professional and that changed my life. 43 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: Wow, something so simple even. 44 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Meant so much? It did you know? 45 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: And there's a line in my actors in the show 46 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: when I say who would have thought that watching TV 47 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: would be the smartest thing I ever did. 48 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: But I just did what I thought host did. Obviously, 49 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: you were a TV nerd growing up. 50 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: That's all I did. I watched TV twenty four to seven. 51 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Bob Barker was my idol, right, And my first job 52 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles was writing Truth or Consequences the last 53 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: year he hosted that show. So I'm twenty two years 54 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: old and here's this, you know, guy that I've looked 55 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: up to forever. And then I became a page at 56 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: CBS and I was a page on Prices, right, so 57 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: I got to know Barker and he was my mentor 58 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: for a number of years. 59 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 60 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: And then you know, as a page, I was working 61 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: on Sonny and Share and All in the Family and 62 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: holy crap. Yeah, that was like the coolest I thought 63 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: I had did. Gone to heaven. That was the best 64 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: it got. I was happy with that. I was there 65 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: the last day they did the Sonny and Share show 66 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: when they announced their divorce. Oh my god, and Cher 67 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: just wanted to get the hell out of there, and 68 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Sonny didn't want to ever leave. And it's two in 69 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: the morning. He's throwing a football back in the area 70 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: trying to delay things, and they finally got them on 71 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: stage to close it. 72 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: You should write several books over everything that you had witnessed. 73 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, maybe not write a book, how about 74 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: do a play. Another reason we invited Martin comc is 75 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: he is this off Broadway show called The Life and 76 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Slimes of Mark Summers, and of course doubled Nickelodeon all 77 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: a part of it. But do you go back and 78 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: talk about these amazingly interesting stories. I do how you 79 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: grew up on TV or behind the scenes. 80 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 81 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: I relay all that information in more and sort of 82 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: the turning point of the show. We played double there 83 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: for about ten minutes and we grab people out of 84 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: the audience and of course they love this. But the 85 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: one thing I didn't know when we were doing double 86 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: theare was all the mess they didn't tell me about 87 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: the obstacle course. When we audition first day in the studio, 88 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: they're pouring chocolate chirrup on a slide and they're mixing 89 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: whipped cream and I said, what are you guys doing 90 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: and they said, well, this is the obstacle course. I said, 91 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: what's that and they said, well, at the end whoever wins, 92 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: they have to go through this stuff. Well I didn't 93 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: know that what I had had a name, but I 94 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: had obsessive compulsive disorder and I was a neatness freak 95 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: and everything had to be perfect and I could not 96 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: have you a drop of anything on me. And now 97 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: I've waited till I was thirty four years old to 98 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: get this opportunity. I go, Okay, now what are you 99 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: gonna do? You're not going to blow this. So I 100 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: went through it, but internally it was driving me molse. 101 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: This I mean with OCD. 102 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, arguably doubledare the messiest show in the history. 103 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh you know too much about the show students. 104 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I had to make a decision do you 105 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: wait thirty four years and get this opportunity and blow 106 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: it or do you go for it? And at one 107 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: point after I was we do sixty five episodes, I 108 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: don't get a mess on me? And the focus group say, 109 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: we'd love the show, but we want the host to 110 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: get messy. So the network comes to me and said, 111 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: you got to get the stuff on you And I 112 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: said why and they said, because that's what they want. 113 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Did you explain to them that there's an issue here. 114 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know what it was yet, and so 115 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: so I started to get messy. But as soon as 116 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: I would get dumped with stuff, I would start to 117 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: take off my clothes in front of the audience. I 118 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: would start on do my shows, and then executives would say, 119 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: can you do that like behind these kids the other 120 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: kids here, and I just wanted to get out and 121 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: take a shower and get back. So we do five 122 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five episodes of Double Dare. We toured 123 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: it around the country. We were filling the Palace of 124 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: Auburn Hills with twenty thousand people on a weekend without 125 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: any problem. And fast forward the tape. I do a host. 126 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: I host a show on Lifetime Television called Biggers and Summers, 127 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: me and Sissy Biggers, and we have an expert on, 128 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: doctor Eric Hollander, who discusses he's an expert on obsessive 129 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: compulsive disorder. So I'm doing the research in my apartment 130 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: here in New York the night before and I'm saying, oh, God, 131 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: I do that, I do that. Oh this thing has 132 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: a name. So I have to make a decision. Do 133 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: I go on television the next day and pretend I 134 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: don't have this, or do. 135 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: I come out? 136 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: And I came out and the next thing I know, 137 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: I'm on Oprah and I'm on The Today Show and 138 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm on Howard Stern. Remember discussing, Yes, I did all this, 139 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: and my parents stopped talking to me because they said, 140 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: you know, because I mentioned that they did it. It 141 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: was hereditary thing, and they said, we don't do that stuff, 142 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: and they cut me off. And you know, it was 143 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: a very stressful time. I was supposed to host Hollywood 144 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: Squares and they find out about the OCD thing and 145 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: so it and they fired me. What yeah, I cut 146 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: the promos. Hi Mark Summers joined me, you know, on 147 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: the new Hollywood Squares and they made the announcement at 148 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: the CBS Affiliates Meeting standing ovation and then I get fired. 149 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: The only slim going on on the Hollywood Squares is 150 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Paul In and I'm probing at the raincoat around that guy. 151 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: So horny. 152 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, moving on, Yes, sir. 153 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: So talk about the beginning days of doubledare Oh my, 154 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: so low budget. 155 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: I'm assuming nine thousand dollars in an episode we shot 156 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: at WHYY and Philadelphia because New York studios were too 157 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: expensive for Nickelodeon, and nobody there really had done a 158 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: game show before. I was the only one. I had 159 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: written game shows or whatever. And the first day we 160 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: were there we were supposed to shoot four episodes. We 161 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: barely got one done because when we went to the 162 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: obstacle course, the first thing was called Nightmare. It was 163 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: a pillow filled with feathers, and the first time we 164 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: did it sixty seconds, nobody does anything. Somebody forgot to 165 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: put the flag in the thing, so we stopped. Okay, boy, okay, 166 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: and so then they put the flag in, but the 167 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: kids turn the thing upside down and all the feathers 168 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: were on top of the thing. 169 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: They couldn't find it again. 170 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: It took us three times before we actually got the 171 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: first obstacle course run, and all the executives were Nickelodeon 172 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: where they're holding their heads, going what have we done? 173 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: And the next thing we know, we become the biggest 174 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: hit and we put Nickelodeon on the map. You know, 175 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: if you get a rating and cable now at a 176 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: point two or a point three, that's massive. We were 177 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: getting fives, not fives five, And they said I read 178 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: an ark Broadcasting magazine, which I don't even know what 179 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: still exists, but they said the three most important people 180 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: to get cable going first was Larry King on CNN 181 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: because his kind of show didn't exist, Gallagher because of 182 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: his comedy specials on Showtime, and me on Doubledare because 183 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: I got kids to tell their parents to go get 184 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: cable because they wanted to see the show where they 185 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: jumped into five thousand pounds of baked beans. 186 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: So I think it was also every kid's dream to 187 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: be on that show. 188 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, to this day. Yeah, yeah, see, that's it. Yeah. 189 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: I think if we brought it back as an adult 190 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: show with be massive. But you know when we pick 191 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: people from the audience to come up, who are all 192 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: your ages, they're like, they become six years old again, 193 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: it's fantastic cool. 194 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Well, so triple there, we'll call it. 195 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: So Mark, they were paying you, I'm sure a fortune 196 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: to host this show back in the day, five. 197 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Hundred bucks in episode that's it. 198 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five hundred bucks a week, which is, by 199 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: the way, the most money I'd never made up to 200 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: that point. Right, but then we went into syndication. 201 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Right, I was an adult when Double Dare was out 202 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: right as you were. 203 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: But some a lot of people here were kids. 204 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Gandhi's parents wouldn't even let her watch 205 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: TV really, but tell them the only wholesome show that 206 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: would always be wholesome until till today that they let 207 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: you watch was. 208 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 2: Really Look how that turned out? That? 209 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 6: Man, Well, haven't watch anything. But when I would go 210 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 6: over to friends houses and double Edair would come on, 211 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: I'd be like, yes, I'm over here. Yeah, so now 212 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: I get to watch this and I loved it. 213 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah. 214 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: There used to be something called playground talk where kids 215 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: would tell the other kids there's this crazy show where 216 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the giving away trips to space camp, and so they 217 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: would go to the other friend's house who had cable 218 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: like you did, and that's that's what opened the doors. 219 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: So Scotty Bee, who's over there in the Scottie talk 220 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: about it? 221 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 7: Well, I mean we used to get in trouble as 222 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 7: kids because we always wanted to play in the ear, 223 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 7: you know. 224 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in one ear and out the other show. 225 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, So we would we would get cottage cheese and 226 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 7: we would color it with green food color, oh my, 227 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: and we would get it all over the walls and 228 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 7: we stained the walls in the house, and we would 229 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 7: get in trouble all the time, but we were constantly 230 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: doing the physical challenges for we had to take it outside, 231 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 7: you know, as we progressed, because we made these big, 232 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 7: elaborate things. 233 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: But I mean, that's all we ever wanted to do. 234 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: And then as I got older, we wanted to be on. 235 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 7: Family Double Day of course, yeah, you know, and we 236 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 7: sent in our applications, but that never happened. 237 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: The stories of parents who said to me they're living 238 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: in dining rooms were ruined because kids would make their 239 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: own slime and obstacle courses through there. And so one 240 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: year I opened my door for trick or treat Halloween. 241 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: The lady goes, oh, my god, you're that guy from Nickelodeon. 242 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, can I tell you my kids have 243 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: destroyed my house because they're copying everything like that. And 244 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 2: the next morning I got up and there was styrofoam 245 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: in all of the beds of my uh you know, 246 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: flowers and transcaping and yes, and landscaping because that was 247 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: their way to get back at me. 248 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: So yes, story did Now did you come up with 249 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff. After a while, that was 250 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Almo the story. Yes I did. 251 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: I was one of the writers and exec producers, and 252 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: the most fun was testing physical challenges from six to 253 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: nine every night with kids because nothing worked, so you 254 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: had to figure out what the One day they did 255 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: a thing where they made paper planes and you had 256 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: to throw it into a mailbox on the other side 257 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: of the stage, and I said, this will never work. Okay, 258 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: this will never work. We're gonna do it. Okay. So 259 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 2: I looked at the camera and we're doing it, and 260 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: I said, Okay, this is physical challenge that I don't 261 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: want to do. 262 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Folks. 263 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll ever work. But if one here's 264 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: the deal. They have twenty seconds to get one paper 265 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: plane in the mailbox. If they do it, I'll give 266 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: you my house. I said, okay. Oh, Mark on your 267 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: Market said though the first first one boom right in 268 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: the mailbox. They got close up of me and I said, well, 269 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: we'll discuss this during the commercial. 270 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Yes, so nay. 271 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: Growing up in Erie, Pennsylvania, I mean was an event. 272 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: My brothers and I would watch this and I have 273 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: to ask you Mark, yes, sir, because we would. 274 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: Watch this and critique the kids doing the charity. 275 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you will probably pick a red team or 276 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: a blue team and then figure out why you could 277 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: do it better exactly. 278 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 8: But then even the individual kid, I remember, I'm like, 279 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 8: this kid's a little dumb ass. 280 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Come on, you didn't do it. You were so magnanimous hosting. 281 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: But in your head do you think, oh, come. 282 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: On, come yes, yes, yes, And the network was always 283 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: very protective. I will tell you a story that I've 284 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: never told him. I should probably be very careful about this, 285 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: But Drew Gasperini, who introduced me to Alex Brightman, who 286 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: wrote our show, I love Alex. Alex Brightman is the 287 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: best guy ever. 288 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: He said in this very chair right now. Yeah, when 289 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: he's Beetle Juicy. 290 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: Beetlejuice and U he's spaml out now and he did 291 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: the School of Rock. 292 00:11:59,440 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: He's brilliant. 293 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: So he wrote this, this show, and he wanted to 294 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: do a show. This is now ten twelve years ago, 295 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: the most disgusting show in the history of New York. 296 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: So we're at Joe's Pub. 297 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm am seeing this show, okay, and Alex was doing 298 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: dirty highkups. I mean it was the whole thing was 299 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: just so insane. But they showed an obstacle course of 300 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: me saying, you know, you gotta get through there, you 301 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: gotta grab the flave. You got ten seconds, and then 302 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: we rolled it back and I said, this is what 303 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: I was really thinking when they were doing that, And 304 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: God forbid, if anybody would have a tape of that, 305 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: I would never be working in this business again. But 306 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, you do think I was thirty four when 307 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: I started that show, okay, And by the way, I 308 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: never wanted to do a kid's show. 309 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to host a show. 310 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: So the reason I think the show was successful in 311 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: many ways is I didn't talk down to the kids 312 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: and say. 313 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Mahpi, do you have a girlfriend. I talked to him 314 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: like they were grown ups. 315 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: And I would screw around with him and they would, 316 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: you know, fight back with me, and it was actually fun. 317 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: So I think that all those things contributed. But yes, 318 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: in my head, I was going, you can't get that 319 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: gets right there? 320 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: Just turning us on Mark Summers. Is here the new 321 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 3: off Broadway show. It's called The Life and Slimes of 322 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: Mark Summers. Not it's only going on till June. 323 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: You check in sixteen week run. 324 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: We gotta make sure there's a lot more. 325 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: To the show than your Double Dare days. I wanna 326 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: get into that. Garrett DoD you have a memory. 327 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 8: From growing up on Staten Islands, Well, it's great to 328 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 8: finally meet my babysitter, like this was the after school special. 329 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 8: I mean at first, and if my mom was here, 330 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 8: you'd be yelling at you right now because I would say, hey, 331 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 8: they can pick their nose on Double Dare, why can't 332 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 8: I pick my nose? And she was like, well, you 333 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 8: don't have a flag up your nose. 334 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: We can make that out. I mean to the fact where. 335 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 8: I was so addicted to Double Dare where I would 336 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 8: bring the flags to the bullpit and McDonald's and really 337 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 8: and put the ball and put the flag in there 338 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 8: and try to like time myself to see if I 339 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 8: could find the flag. 340 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: You were a bullpit, Oh of course. 341 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 8: I mean to the point where I would go to 342 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 8: Universal to see if you guys are taping down there 343 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 8: just by chance, and everybody be like, well, let's go online, 344 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 8: let's go on King Kong, let's go. 345 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 9: I was like, no, no, I need to get on 346 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 9: Double now. So thank you, Oh yeah, no, thank you, unbelievable, 347 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 9: thank you. I do people get people like they help 348 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 9: you and start crying. 349 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Yes, all the time. 350 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable because the memories that they have and the 351 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: other reason they do it. 352 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: We talk. The show takes a dramatic turn halfway through. 353 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: When I discovered I had obsessive compulsive disorder, I was 354 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: hosting the talk show and doctor Hollander comes on and 355 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: I had been on National TV that I haven't So 356 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: people who come to the show have obsessive compulsive disorder, 357 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: A lot of them do, and they stay at the 358 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: stage door and want to talk. And the amount of 359 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: people who I've hugged and who have been crying after 360 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: the show has been quite amazing, and the fact that 361 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: we're sort of getting this message out. When I got diagnosed, 362 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: there was no help pretty much. Now you can take medication, 363 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: cognitive behavior therapy, all sorts of things. But back in 364 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: the day when I discovered I had it, there wasn't 365 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: a lot going on. So yes, there's a lot of 366 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: warm and fuzzy moments going on after the show one hundred. 367 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: See, that's the thing. This show has been on for 368 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: thirty years. 369 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: So when I went out on a book tour and 370 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: when we go out, they're like, you know, their grandkids 371 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: listen to us now, and so I see. 372 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: But there's the bond here is this when we. 373 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Look back to our childhood years, those as innocent as 374 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: they could have been and should have been years, and 375 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: connect with them now when we live in this fed 376 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: up world that we live in. 377 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: It does bring. 378 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: This peace, yes, and we connect with the innocence and 379 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: the times that made us so happy and Mark Summers, 380 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: you do that. 381 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: You still have the ability to do that now. Obviously 382 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: it's so odd. 383 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: I grew up with Soupy Sales who right when I 384 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: was a kid, he was the person who did kid 385 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: shows and I became friends with Soupye and that was 386 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: like dying to going to heaven kind of moment. And 387 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: I guess, unbeknownst to me at the time, that I 388 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: am that to an entire different generation. What's so funny 389 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: is the other day somebody said, well, you signed my 390 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: program and I said sure. I said you want me 391 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: to mention something about double there or unwrapped, and they said, 392 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: what's double there? Wow? 393 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 394 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: So there's a whole generation of people who don't even 395 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: know me from that. They only know me from the 396 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Food Network. I was there for twenty years. 397 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: Well, Unwrapped is one of the best shows ever. 398 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: Thanks, So, I mean the premise of Unwrapped is at 399 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: least the history of the thing we buy every day. Yes, 400 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: where'd they come from? Where do they come from? 401 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: And you know why is there you know of different 402 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: colored em and ms and you know what do they 403 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: used to make the mike and ikes taste the way 404 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: they do? And I did you know, hundreds of episodes 405 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: of that for eleven years, and then I exec produced 406 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Dinner Impossible and Restaurant Impossible. So I've had this crazy 407 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: life where I started off as a magician. I became 408 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: a regular at the Comedy Store in seventy six with 409 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: Dave and Jay and Robin, and then you know, become 410 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: a host of a kids show. Then I'm at Food Network, 411 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: and you know now I am off Broadway doing a 412 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: one man show. So it's been quite an interesting run 413 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: of events over the last seventy two years. Old, I've 414 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: been doing this almost fifty years. 415 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Was talking it? 416 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean in a car accident once you broke every 417 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: bone in your face. 418 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I was coming back from a restaurant and possible shoot, 419 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: didn't wear a seat belt and yeah, the credit card 420 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: machine hit me and broke every bone in my face. 421 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: That was a lovely moment. 422 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: Credit card machine. 423 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that when you get ran into. 424 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: A credit what Yes, I was sitting on the back 425 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: of the cab right and you know the thing were 426 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: oh yeah, and I the guys slammed on the brakes, 427 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: hit the center divider, and my head went right into 428 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: the credit cards. 429 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: In a life of cancer, not one, not two, but 430 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: three bouts of cancer? What kind of cancer? 431 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Was it? 432 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: A chronic elymphatic leukemia? And I'm on medication I will 433 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: be for the rest of my life. They're only fifteen 434 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month for the pills, but yeah, it's 435 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: keiven me alive. 436 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: So yeah. I went through chemo twice. 437 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: Third time I was on immuno therapy didn't work and 438 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: that's why they tried the pills in a work. 439 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: So yeah. 440 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: So we see these people that we love and we 441 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: adore and that we either grew up with or we 442 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: continue to learn from. On TV, you never really stop 443 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: all the time to think about, well, this is a 444 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: human being who's living a life of maybe being married, 445 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: maybe not, maybe be with OCD or you don't know 446 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: where they came from or where they're going. You just 447 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: know who they are while you're watching it. 448 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: And Elvis, that's why I did this show. 449 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: And I also have a podcast called Mark Summerson Wraps 450 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: and it's based on the fact that you go to 451 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: a movie, a TV show Broadway So and you go, boy, 452 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: the person on that show is so lucky, and it's like, no, 453 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: they work their asses off to get there. And what 454 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: is it about some people who can go over under 455 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: a round or through the wall and other people go, man, 456 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this and they retreat, and I'm more 457 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: interested in the people who figured out a way to 458 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: get where they're going. We had Richard Kain on recently, 459 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: we had Kevin Pollack on, we had Highway Men down on. 460 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: We've had some really good people tell their stories. 461 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: And everybody in this room has this story as well. 462 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: You're not sitting here because somebody called you up and 463 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: said I want you to work here. You figure out 464 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: a way to get in this room. Not everybody can 465 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: do that. 466 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: Amen. 467 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: Hey, So doing a one man show about your life, 468 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: what do you learn from it? 469 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: Don't mind? 470 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's the same as when you write a biography, 471 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: an autobiography, you actually learn a lot about yourself. 472 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: This has to be that times ten. 473 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: It's an emotional roller coaster on a nightly basis because 474 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm up there telling the story that I lived, and 475 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: some nights I get so emotional. 476 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: I do break down. I could never control it. 477 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: In certain moments where I'm reliving the moments, because if 478 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: you're going to tell the story, it's got to be authentic. 479 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: You can't go up there and pretend to do the story. 480 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: You're telling them about your life. So yes, it's very emotional. 481 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: It's sort of like less expensive than going to a 482 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: psychiatrist on a regular basis. And I do learn a 483 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: lot about myself. But at this point in my life, 484 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: it's funny. I used to go on stage when I 485 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: worked at the Magic Castle. I would throw up every 486 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: time before I went and did a show because I 487 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: had no idea what I was doing. I am so 488 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: confident now and I don't get nervous. I can't wait 489 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: to get to that theater and perform this on a 490 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: nightly basis. And you know, it took me this long 491 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: to get that confident, but the journey was necessary. Oh 492 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: my god, Yes, I could have never done this even 493 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: five years ago, I could have never performed it. The 494 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: best compliment I got. Brightman saw me initially when we 495 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: started this eight nine years ago, and he hadn't seen 496 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: me since opening night. We did open the nineteenth of February, 497 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: and he came up to me and he said, I 498 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: gotta ask you a question. 499 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I said, what's that? He said, when did you learn 500 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: to act? And I broke down. 501 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: I thought, coming from Alex Brightman, that was a really emotional. 502 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Moment for me. 503 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 4: But you aren't acting. 504 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: It's it's a combination of things. Selvis. It's fascinating. Okay, 505 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: So I have to ask you this question, yes, sir, 506 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: And I asked this with all due respect. 507 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 8: I heard an urban legend one time that you would 508 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 8: have to, in regards to your OCD, vacuum yourself out 509 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 8: of hotel rooms. 510 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Is that true? No? 511 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: All these you know things between me and Howie Mendel 512 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: that have been made up, how he used to put 513 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: towels down on the floor and get a pair of 514 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: tongs to take the bed sheet off, and all. 515 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: The time, and hotel rooms. I would do that without. 516 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, none of that stuff you know, I 517 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: didn't do. I can By the way, I'm a great vacuumer, 518 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: and at my house I can. I came out of 519 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: every room without a footprint. I mean, I can teach 520 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: you that if you want. But no, that thing about 521 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: the hotel, that that never happened. So but thank you 522 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: for asking. Yeah, now, all those urban legend things happened. 523 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: You know. 524 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: I was doing another radio show and a guy said, 525 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: I came up to you an airport. 526 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: You refused to shake my hand. No, I didn't. I 527 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: shake everybody. Okay. 528 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: Funny thing is when you arrived, I said, can we 529 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: shake his hand? 530 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to make you uncomfortable. 531 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: We love you. 532 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: It was never germ phobic. 533 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: It was all about cleanliness and orderliness and you know, 534 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: putting things symmetrical and making sure. 535 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: Everything was perfect. 536 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, this studio is making me nuts. 537 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: Could you turn that up? 538 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: I used to I feel like I used to like 539 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: touch things like four or five times. 540 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh really, even when I would go through stores. 541 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 5: I would like rearrange things in the store and I'd 542 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: be like, and then I'd walk away. And the funny 543 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: thing is, you and I talk about that. Our thing 544 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: is odd numbers. I used to have to everything, even 545 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: amount of. 546 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: Some people are even some people are somehow changed. 547 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: Well the rule book with people who see the changes 548 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: on a daily basis, it really does yeah yeah, yeah, 549 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, odd numbers. So isn't that weird that people 550 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: have to flip a light switch so many times? 551 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Or walking uh to a room. 552 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: So Daniel will walk into a door and she cannot 553 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: leave through another where she has to go out through 554 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: the door. 555 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: I came in that way, I'm going out down because 556 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 5: and you know, because then you get these thoughts you 557 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 5: haven't thoughts it's gonna happen. 558 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: See, that's in my show that I was afraid that 559 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: if I my room wasn't clean that when my parents 560 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: got in the car, they'd get in a car accident 561 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: and die. 562 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: So that's why you kept doing that? 563 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 5: Why do we why do you think those things? 564 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'll send you the doctor's number. 565 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: And if I'm walking down a staircase, if I drag 566 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: my left heel on the step, I have to even 567 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: and out with my right. 568 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: Really I do. 569 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: But I don't think there's doom. 570 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: On the way. 571 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: If I don't, I just don't know what it is. 572 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I live a life of doom. Any ways, 573 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm already paying the price. 574 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: I still have trouble in grocery stores where I get 575 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: fixated on reading labels, and so my wife goes grocery 576 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: shopping without me because I can get stuck in a 577 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: place and you know, you say yourself, I have to 578 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: read it perfect. 579 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Well what does perfect mean? You know? 580 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: And when I was doing the talk show here in 581 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: New York, they our execut producers said get out of here. 582 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: Driving us crazy. 583 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: I would make the staff nuts, so he threw me 584 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: out and I would walk from one in the afternoon 585 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: until nine, up and down the streets of New York. 586 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: But sometimes would get stuck at a place reading you know, 587 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: a sign in Tiffany's over and over and over again, 588 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: and you know, you get stuck and then you got 589 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: to get yourself out of it. So yeah, I mean, 590 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: thank god, I don't do that much anymore, but it 591 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: is still. I always say I'm eighty two percent cured. 592 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't think you're ever one hundred percent cured. 593 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, I guess if it slows you down, if it 594 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: stops progression or progress in life, then you got to 595 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: address it. 596 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Scary. I just want to say I love you man, 597 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I have. 598 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: No questions, very kind, no questions, just a few, just 599 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: some love for you. 600 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, I love it. That was the most beautiful moment. 601 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: I love these guys. Those are fantastic. 602 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 6: I have a question on a completely different topic, because 603 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 6: you've done one hundred things. You've talked about all of it, 604 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 6: from doubled Air to Unwrapped, and now you're doing this play. 605 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 6: I most recently saw you and quiet on the side 606 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: that just came out. Oh my, how was that being 607 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: able to talk about all that? Was that like a 608 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 6: cleansing feeling to you to finally be able to say, like, hey, 609 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 6: I wanted to advocate for these kids and I saw 610 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: what was going on. 611 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about that. You're going to get 612 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: an exclusive here. 613 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: I got called by these folks saying they wanted to 614 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: do a documentary on Nickelodeon, and so I said sure, 615 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: and I went there and they asked me what I 616 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: thought of Nick and the first ten or twelve seconds 617 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 2: from what I understand this documentary or me saying all 618 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: these wonderful things, but they did a bait and switch 619 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: on me. They am wuished me. They never told me 620 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: what this documenting was really about. And so they showed 621 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: me a video of something that I couldn't believe was 622 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: on Nicolos and I said, well, let's stop. 623 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: Tape right here. What are we doing. 624 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, we're doing this thing. Do you know this guy? 625 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: And all this kind of stuff, and I left. 626 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 627 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: So I got a phone call about six weeks ago 628 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: saying you're totally out of the show, and I went great. 629 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: Then they called me about four weeks ago and said, well, 630 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: you're in it, but you're only in the first part 631 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: of it because you talked about the positive stuff of Nickelodeon. 632 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: What they didn't tell me, and they lied to me about, 633 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: was the fact that they put in that other thing 634 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: where they had the camera on me when they ambushed 635 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: me and uh away. So now we get into a 636 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: whole situation about who's unethical. 637 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: That's a very interesting I had no idea. I was 638 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: wondering about so many of the interviews that they've done 639 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 6: and how they did it. 640 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: I never met Den Schneier when we got done doing 641 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: Doubledare and we had run our run. Those people came 642 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: in after and took over our studios. Never met the man, 643 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: have no idea about any of those things. I mean, 644 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: I know Keenan from Keenan and Kel because we've done 645 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: stuff together. 646 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: But as far as anything that happened on that show 647 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: with any of those people, I never met any of them. 648 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know. 649 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: Anybody, but they made it seem like I knew those people. 650 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Definitely did. 651 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: They knew exactly what they were doing a documentary about, 652 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 3: and ethically they should have said something to you about, 653 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: you think and given you a shot to say, I 654 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: don't know them. I shouldn't even be there. You're If 655 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: I knew something, maybe i'd to come talk to you, 656 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: but I don't. 657 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 5: Is there anything you can do about that now? 658 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Or well there's a phone call coming in today at 659 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: three o'clock. 660 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: There we go. This is exclusive it Look, you know, 661 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: I through it all. 662 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: You obviously make so many people so happy for so 663 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: many reasons. And the fact that you're doing your your show, 664 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: The Life and Slimes of Mark Summers is just another layer. 665 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: And so do we have more layers to come? 666 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Are you? 667 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: Are you? 668 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: Are you ready to move forward into something else? 669 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: Or what do you want to do? 670 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: What do I want to do? 671 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, there's a possibility we could tour this. That would 672 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: be one thing that we've just gus doing it for 673 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: streaming services. Another discussion going on. But you know, the 674 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: one thing that has eluded me is actually being in 675 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: a Broadway show. And I auditioned for Waitress a couple 676 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: of years ago and they told me, quote that I 677 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: could never play that part. 678 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: I was playing old Joe. 679 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: I try to because they said that I played it 680 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: too young, that I had too much energy and I 681 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: had a lot in my voice that I do not 682 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: come across as an old man. 683 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Sort of a compliment. 684 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: But you know, I put the word out there that 685 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: if there's any Broadway producer who has not I don't 686 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: need a lead like a third you know, lead kind 687 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: of thing one song and one thing a line. 688 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: You would play the wacky neighbor. 689 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the Wizard would be the great one 690 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: song you sing. 691 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well there's a debate on that. Brighten Telvie's 692 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: not sure, but let's pretend I can. But you know, 693 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: playing the Wizard in Wicked would be you know, the 694 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: kind of perfect role, you know, twelve minutes on stage 695 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: for a couple of scenes, something like that. So you know, 696 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 2: I put that out there. If it happens, fantastic, But 697 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, Elvis, if this is as. 698 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: Good as it gets, I'm the happiest man in the world. 699 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. 700 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: Are you one of these guys people who's always thinking, 701 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep working till the day I kick undred percent? 702 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Peter Marshall, my friend who was the host of Hollywood Square, 703 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: absolutely just turned ninety eight years old, and a few 704 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: years ago I said to him, you know, I think 705 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop doing this, and he said, Mark, all 706 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: my friends who stopped doing it died, do not ever 707 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: stop doing this stuff. And so I keep moving forward. 708 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: Let me keep moving forward. What does that mean? 709 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Well, even though I say I'm I'm retired, I'm always 710 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: thinking of ideas and trying to pitch him I where 711 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: I live, Dennis Miller is one of my neighbors. And 712 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Dennis and I have lunch when I'm home every Wednesday, 713 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: and he's one of the most intelligent humans I've ever 714 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: met my entire life. We have different points of view 715 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: on certain things, but having conversations like that and jd 716 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: Roth who did Funhouse, and Dennis Miller and we discuss 717 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: the industry and shows and things like that. And so yes, 718 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm always inspired. It's harder to get meetings now because 719 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm an old guy. They want to meet with people 720 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: who are less than half my age. And so even 721 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: though I have this reputation of having success, although I 722 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: will tell you that right before I got this Broadway show, 723 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: off Broadway Show, I was asked to host Tick Doc Doe, 724 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: which they're bringing back, and I had to turn it 725 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: down because here was my feeling. I've hosted many shows, 726 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: but I've never done a show in New York off Broadway, 727 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: and I thought, well, you know, I got to do that. 728 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: So I turned it down. And I don't look back 729 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: and say, wow, I should have taken that job, because 730 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: I've done that before. This is something that's all new, 731 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: and the excitement and the energy it takes is much 732 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: more exciting than go and say, well, if you answered 733 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: this question, you get three hundred dollars. 734 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I've done that before. 735 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: You know what you have, your audience, and you know 736 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: exactly who they are. I do, and so there's opportunity there. 737 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: So I bring this question up for a friend, as 738 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: you for a friend, what do you do when you've 739 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: been doing it for so long you're kind of wondering 740 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: what's next. 741 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: You can't sell you, you just can't stop. 742 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: I'll let them know, yes, yes, yes, please do. 743 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: But you know the fact that this week I did 744 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: the view I did Sherry CBS Morning Show. The fact 745 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: that anybody still wants me on these shows is fascinating. 746 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: But the people who are producing and are hosting these shows, 747 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: like all of you, grew up watching me, and so 748 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: they want to reminisce. And so that's the advantage that 749 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 2: I have to a certain point. But you know, just 750 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: because and I have no idea how old you are, 751 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: but I know I'm a lot older than you, there's 752 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: no reason for us to stop. Seacrest always says to me, 753 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: he hates me because my voice sounds the same now 754 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: as it did when I was in my twenties and thirties. 755 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: He said, you should sound like an old man at 756 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: this point, and I don't. He said, Summers, you pissed 757 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: me off. So yeah, so you know, we just keep 758 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: doing what we're doing. 759 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: Man, Mark Summers in the Life and Slives of Mark 760 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: Summers is going on until June, So you got to 761 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: get in there right now and. 762 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: We'll be there. 763 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark Summers, Thank you and by the way, 764 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: if you go to ms DARE twenty four is your 765 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: code on telecharge, you can get tickets as little as 766 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: thirty nine dollars. 767 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, repeat that. 768 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: Ms DARE like Mark Summers and double dere ms DARE 769 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: twenty four at telecharge dot com and you can get 770 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: tickets as low as thirty nine dollars. So do that 771 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: and we'll see you there. 772 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: You're on sale. That was we all are. 773 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: Some of us are complimentary. 774 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: The Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge