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Speaker 1: And so I think that disconnect when I hear stouts

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Speaker 2: They ain't never gonna do it right, They ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: That's the fight we're having now. They say that they're

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Speaker 1: having better communications now. Salute to the Grammys monumental. If

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Speaker 1: It ain't really nothing that the Grammys is doing because

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Speaker 1: These are the and this is how to chain reaction work.

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Speaker 3: More We're not chosen tonight. But the way little Wayne

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Speaker 8: But the Wayne angle would be like even as he

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Speaker 7: It's the damn gumball.

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Speaker 1: he worked with, among others when you drill it down.

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00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: But I want to deal with the business side of it.

437
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: But if Steve Stott is gonna sit on the pivot

438
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: and not the fact that there was a checker pass

439
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: between Wayne bird Man and Jay Z, then we can't

440
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: even have this conversation. I think if we're gonna deal

441
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: with the reality of it and have a real conversation.

442
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: Bird Man said things about jay they said things about

443
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: his wife, they wrapped certain things about Beyonce. But we've

444
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: seen them guys together after that, right, and so I

445
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: don't think cordial necessarily mean collaborate, And I think that

446
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: jay Z is one of the people that understands and

447
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: utilizes that law. You know, that's the law that I

448
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: have in my book. You know, being cordial doesn't necessarily

449
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: mean collaborate, but being cordial is appreciated.

450
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: Let's look at it a little more from I.

451
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: Mean, that's not the criteria they pick the super Bowl

452
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: performance from me. Let's be honest, man. Don't you think

453
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: for one second we may be slightly spoiled Jay got

454
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: into the super Bowl halftime performances. You think these hip

455
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: hop acts would be getting picked at all if it

456
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: wasn't for him. But why are we not celebrating that?

457
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: Why are we criticizing the decision. Would he picked doctor

458
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: Dre and Snoop and Eminem and fifty and Marrion and

459
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: did that or put Kendrick on the big stage so

460
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: that he and Kendrick to have this opportunity or others

461
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: that were picked. Why Why are we not celebrating that idea?

462
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: I don't That's the part that's confusing to me.

463
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: I love that you brought that up.

464
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: Isn't that the super Bowl halftime performance?

465
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for him, this wouldn't be happening. Yeah,

466
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: So how could you come down and criticize this man

467
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: like that? To me, it's beyond me. I just don't

468
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: get that logic.

469
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: So, Steve jay Z is a great artist, phenomenal businessman,

470
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: but he is not above critique. The reason I say

471
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: jay Z isn't above criticism isn't because I don't like

472
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: jay Z. It's because the old saying for much is

473
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: given much is exactly and so would ward comes criticism.

474
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: It's just how this thing goes. You pray to be

475
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a good person, and the good that you put into

476
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: the world outweigh too bad. But that doesn't mean because again,

477
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: we're still building this thing together. Although jay has almost

478
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: every tool in his toolbox. But we still worried about

479
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: if jay Z done left the job site. See we

480
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: still building. Yeah, you got niggas pulled up with dump

481
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: trucks and shit. That's over here building this hip hop thing, right,

482
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: and some niggas take their toolbox that they had over

483
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: he In hip hop, you've ever been on the job

484
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: site and the.

485
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: Nigga with the good hammer gotta go.

486
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: The nigga with the drill with the battery that can

487
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: run all night, he got the ride.

488
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: And so they have.

489
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: To understand that coming from this culture, that there's still

490
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: peoples slaving on the plantation.

491
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: Under them record labels.

492
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: They's trying to come from up under that there's people

493
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: with two and three hundred million dollars trying to figure

494
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: the text game out that I'm not sure if some

495
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: of these billionairesis is sharing the tax cod There's things

496
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: that need to be passed down. I think that there

497
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: is a growing concern with some of hip hop that

498
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: it looks like some of our power players have took

499
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: their toolboxes and left the job site while they're still

500
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: heavy hitters over here building. Let there be no misunderstanding,

501
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: but you can't come over here and grab workers and

502
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: keep taking them over there to build up yo mansion.

503
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: We need to keep building this thing up so we

504
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: can bring the people that's spending the money over here.

505
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: How do we do that? And certain things have to

506
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: be selfish. We have to look out for us, so

507
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't push back on that. Steve styleted Nicki Minaj

508
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: was going back and forth. Nikki tweeted, let's let's take

509
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: a look at what Nikki tweeted. Nigga says, they're short

510
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: and stout, laughy taffy alien, she's throwing jokes. We want

511
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: to know if you were present doing abusive teenagers and children,

512
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: that's what we want to know. You can taste my

513
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: pussy stop a lee of Foxy, et cetera. During r

514
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: Kelly video shoots and stuff. Did you know about the

515
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: abuse of ken Port and Cassie. Y'all seem to always

516
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: run in sort of rat pack. That's what we the

517
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: people want to want you and your peeps to speak on.

518
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Ugly ball head bowling ball bitch.

519
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: You diggas don't have the energy for gangsters in person,

520
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: only bitches on the internet. If any of you four

521
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: cutts I name would like to shoot the pharawe one

522
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: a gangster. I run the winner of the fight ten

523
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: million dollars until then watch the Carma spin twenty five

524
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: men spoke out about these clowns only talking about me

525
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: every single day. That's how I know I win. That's

526
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: why I tell these people to leave me alone, but no,

527
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: they rather play me. So let's play gag City tomorrow, tonight,

528
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: and tomorrow. To God be the gory. Bingo, So she's

529
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: responding to people too. Now I want you guys to know.

530
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Of course you can see on the screen. I'm gonna

531
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: read what she retweeted. Here she says, Bingo, I was

532
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: expected to answer for something that happened or didn't happen

533
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: when I was ten years old, when I was minding

534
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: my business in school. We all want to know what

535
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: you was doing at thirty years old to sixty years old.

536
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: So she's saying he's sixty. Now.

537
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: The Nikki and the jay Z beef seems to be

538
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: heating up. I wonder what that means for the Barbs

539
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: and the bee have because at some point Nicki's fan

540
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: base and Beyonce's fan base would have to meet in

541
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: the field because ain't no way you're gonna keep shooting

542
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: at Jay and Beyonce ain't gonna have nothing to say.

543
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: That's just how they go. Or do they start back

544
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: to empower Meghan, because that's how this business work, right,

545
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: And that's why you gotta hope you get plugged in

546
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: with a real one, because the winner come right quick

547
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: because of something you said. And if the winner come

548
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: right quick and you look up and anybody take the

549
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: hand off of it and be like, I don't know,

550
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: I ain't instead of trying to help you throw it

551
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: like yo, bro, come on there again. I need you

552
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: to talk about that, or come speak about that, or hey,

553
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I need hey y'all put get him on there, or

554
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: let's right, work your move and really endorse you. Because

555
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: in this business, they'll help you start a fire, but

556
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: they won't help you put it out. And so we'll

557
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: speaking about Beyonce Nicki Minaj what that looks like in

558
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the near future. If you're asking me, there will be

559
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: a shot took at some point in the record from

560
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: somebody because she will come and defend jay Z. She's

561
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: been with them a long time, she loves them, and

562
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: that's her position as he would defend her. And this again,

563
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: may be the reason why Wayne them can't get in

564
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: a position like this with Jay because y'all already has

565
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: shot at Beyonce.

566
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: Y'all din just critique me.

567
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Y'all started to say things, Yo, kidnap, your bull, kidnap

568
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: your baby.

569
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Whoa brother, y'all said, kidnap? Who played like that?

570
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: All y'all playing? He may have felt like that. But

571
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: I want to move to an important piece of this.

572
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Steve Stout starts to talk about Dame Dash. He also

573
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: has a relationship with Dame Dash. Dame Dash is one

574
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: of those names also in the nineties early two thousands

575
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: that really got in his game and shaped it. It

576
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: was kind of all over the place, and those guys

577
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: had to make the deals that you see to set

578
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: the industry standard in the market. And so I appreciate

579
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: all of these guys contribution, and not only them, we

580
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: got to incorporate Master Pte, Birdman, Jay Prince, even go

581
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: so far as the trick Daddy Uncle Luke's what they

582
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: did for just that part of it. What a Ball

583
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: and them did for Memphis, you know what I'm saying,

584
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: What three six of them did for Memphis. Like we

585
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: can art to drill it down and look at it.

586
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: We won't do that today. Let's take a look at

587
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: what Steve Stout said as it pertains the Dame Dash

588
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: on his interview with The Pivot. Shout out my boys

589
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: over at the Pivot.

590
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 9: This road to tape. It is done, or he's attempted

591
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 9: to do. On the other hand, I don't know. I'm

592
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 9: a fan of Rockefeller. I grew up in that era

593
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 9: as a big fan of everything that had going on.

594
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 9: But now it's like lost one. I don't get it.

595
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 9: So that's the question I'm asking.

596
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: I think it's important to understand the master recording, and

597
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: I talked about that a lot when I don't When

598
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: I started United Masters, the idea was that artists shit

599
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: on their masters, and I was saying it loudly, and

600
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: I was talking about it at the top of my lung,

601
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: screaming it. Avoid record companies being independent on your shit.

602
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: It has value to me. Thellowest example of that that's

603
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 3: in plain daylight is this. I think got jay z right,

604
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: one of the biggest artists ever and his first album

605
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: his former partner owns one to third of it, and

606
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: that's value to it. He's trying to sell it. He's

607
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: trying to do NFTs with it a couple of years ago.

608
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: So for all artists looking at this, you see how

609
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: that master is the equivalent of real estate or any

610
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: other asset that's everlasting. So it's an education that if

611
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: you own something and master recording it has the same

612
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: kind of value that you would have if you bought

613
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: a house that appreciated over time. That's why it's important

614
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: that artists own their masters, just in general, right, that's

615
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: number one. Use this as an example of why it's

616
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: important to have ownership of this because it's an asset

617
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: that goes with you for the rest of your life.

618
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: On the game side, you have friends that you grew

619
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: up with men, and as you pivoted and as you

620
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: grew they couldn't jump the fence anymore. They couldn't jump

621
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: the next fence. They couldn't go. And it don't look good.

622
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: It ends bad. This ends really bad. The man's you know,

623
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: it's embarrassing. Actually, it goes from a point where like,

624
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: you know, whatever, haha, rat beef, you didn't make it,

625
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: You're not that guy, to like your teeth's falling out.

626
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, your teeth up on it out your

627
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 3: lines and your teeth and your teeth upon out. You're

628
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: trying to create and mustard animosity with anybody to create someone.

629
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: No fucking way.

630
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: Everybody on their set kept a fucking straight face. Sun

631
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: You're lying through your teeth and your teeth it is

632
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: falling out.

633
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Let's start there.

634
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: If you ain't seen the video, man, Dame Dash was

635
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: talking and the boy hold jibs fell off.

636
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: I'm talking. I ain't never seen a nigga hold.

637
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Jibs retract out their mouth, like to see the the

638
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: airplane when it's going down. He would talking, little boom,

639
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: they just retract out his mouth. He let it fly. Boy,

640
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I had deleted the folk God got the news. Ain't

641
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: no way out of let that made man. Come on, man,

642
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: be for real, but I'm tripping off. Everybody on the

643
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: set kept a straight face. I'm gonna have to call

644
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. Man, come on, man, y'all niggas, man, I

645
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: know what it because it really ain't funny because Steve

646
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: started is saying some real shit.

647
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

648
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: But I respect Dame and I got Dame. I gotta

649
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: get Dame on the show. We've already spoke before, so

650
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. But it's unfortunate that he is making

651
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: some sense. It's like all right, for a moment, it's like,

652
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: all right, he's the guy that understands independence.

653
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: Now it's coming to it like, Yo, their auction is off?

654
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: What what? What's going on? Yo? The money's in the street.

655
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: That's why I want them to come talk to me,

656
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: because I truly believe the conversation to move the culture.

657
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be rough to for me to understand that

658
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: all my money in the street talks shit. You see

659
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Respect your hustle, Respect what you've done.

660
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: It's looking like you're barely holding things together and it

661
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: may be a house of cars, and so I know

662
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: your information isn't always keep you above water. I'm talking

663
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: about running a successful business. I think personally, you're always

664
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: live in a mansion, you always have a few dollars,

665
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: you always have some money and be a millionaire quote unquote.

666
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: But I think some of those business decisions, you know,

667
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: like Steve started saying, are coming and playing a major

668
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: role in how you're living today, whether that be good

669
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: or bad. But I do want dame to know I

670
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: appreciated what he did. Hopefully we have a conversation soon

671
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: and I get to express that to him, and we

672
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: get to kind of iron out some of my ideas

673
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: and I get to kind of pick his brain. These

674
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: conversations to me mean more than anything, because I know

675
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: ten years from now that there'll still be young men

676
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: and women all across this globe that will still be

677
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: learning from those conversations and that perspective and that pocket

678
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: that we're in in that moment. And that's my job

679
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: is to create day kind of content and just great

680
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: conversation and great content. Right, But lying through your teeth

681
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: is crazy.

682
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: Assler and sell a chain with it like people are children,

683
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I want to get the chain for ten

684
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: million dollars, Like are you serious, duff? And then you're

685
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: running around giving people financial advice like you're the OG.

686
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: You're not the OG. Yeah, it's about you can't be

687
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: giving people bad advice and run around being the og.

688
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: Don't do this. I'm broke because all I do is

689
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: investing myself. And no, you're broke because you made bad

690
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: investments in yourself. This is come it.

691
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 8: Well, he put a bunch of stuff out there brouh

692
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 8: and then even we all watch it, we all hip

693
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 8: hop dudes. Yeah, what the stuff that Dame says about

694
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 8: you that you just have to clear up? Because he

695
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 8: said he slapped you over eighteen thousand dollars. He said, no,

696
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 8: it's I could get a list of stuff that I heard.

697
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, not only I Dame over

698
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand dollars. Dame and I had an altercation, right,

699
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: we two altercations. We're in office at Sony that a

700
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: Tony at his record at UH doing the same building.

701
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: It was like ten guys in the room. I was

702
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: by myself and we got into an altercation, no doubt, yelling, fighting, whatever.

703
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: About two years later I seen him on the same

704
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: street and it was him by himself. He hit two

705
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: girls with him. I went to step to him. This

706
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: man pushed the girl in front of me and took

707
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: off running. The girl he pushed in front of me

708
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: falls and then sues me. The insurance company pays out

709
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: her just to not even have lawyers. They just write,

710
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: just approve it, Steve, don't even tell me. They just settle.

711
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: Whatever it is they settle is thirty thousand dollars are

712
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: some bullshit for nothing. But I mean he pushed the girl,

713
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: girl faking the fall on the floor, my ankle, all

714
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: the bullshit. About five days after that, we're at Kanye's

715
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: party and the girl walks up to me and tells me,

716
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: you don't remember me. I'm like no, Hey, girl walks

717
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: up to me and tells me you don't remember me.

718
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm like no, She says, I a girl who shoed

719
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: you the money that you gave us. We used to

720
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: sell out in LA to move out to LA. Thank you. Wow.

721
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: That's his woman now.

722
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: So that's Steve Styles's opinion on Nikki on Dame on

723
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: the jay Z Super Bowl. That's our reaction to his opinion.

724
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I now want to talk about Hancho and the influence

725
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: out of Saint Louis. Actually, this influencer, from what they're

726
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: telling me, cool with Sexy Red. So this influence is

727
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: cool with Sexy Red. Hancho happens to be on tour

728
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: doing some dates with Sexy Red. I think the influencer

729
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: said some things online. They caused Hancho to feel disrespected.

730
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: They ran into him in his city. They ran into

731
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: him in his city and beat on him, and a

732
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: fight took place, and so we're gonna take a look

733
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: at a little bit of the video. This is because

734
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: I truly believe there's a lesson to be learned here

735
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: and we all need to learn a lesson.

736
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: Pay attention.

737
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 10: I'm at the Sexy concert backstage. Why did seven foot

738
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 10: talm which as they just jumped me real life jump me,

739
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 10: multiple of them?

740
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Cool? Like what and.

741
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 7: I'm not hurt up nowhere?

742
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: The next day listen, listen, so what did you?

743
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 5: What did you do? Why did she started? Did she

744
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: just start last start?

745
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: Yes? And just start last night? Yees?

746
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: And no, no is that clearly couldn't exactly what my

747
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: first time I ever said, what?

748
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: What did you do?

749
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 10: That?

750
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: What I told you when I see you?

751
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: What I was gonna do?

752
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 7: You never told me nothing? Man, you was telling everybody

753
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 7: I told DM.

754
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: You never said I ain't gonna say, you know what's up?

755
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: I asked, you, will tell you what? Because you calling

756
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: you going to everybody else? Heing what you're gonna do

757
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: to me? What nobody I did? What I did to you?

758
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 7: How I got worried of what you how you up

759
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 7: about me?

760
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: Right? But you say it when you look at me

761
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: and said what say ship back. You know I was

762
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 4: on demon.

763
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 7: I never said what's up to you?

764
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: Probably gonna said what's up to me? I did you

765
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: look there at me and said it ain't ship to you?

766
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: You know how long? If I would have you seen?

767
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: You've seen me go back in my room, my Jerry

768
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: and I told you come out and you got to apologize?

769
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: Did you not? You said you would have took you not?

770
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: Did you not come up and me apologizing to me?

771
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

772
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: What am I apologize for? But this? Don't put this

773
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: on something. You You ain't come up to me apologizing.

774
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh you yeah, you don't put it on me. Don't

775
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: come you apologies.

776
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 7: I didn't even do sho.

777
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, that was exactly what she was saying last night.

778
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: I ain't do ship. But you just said this how you?

779
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: I knew you had some type of hoy with me.

780
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know what it was over not telling about

781
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: what you did.

782
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: I've seen you with all my people.

783
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 5: You've seen me he d you waded to everybody left

784
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: out by myself down there.

785
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: It was around you. Whit whit No look, oh.

786
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 7: God, don't go get they nigga, don't give.

787
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: Good dude. Stop if I thought you was on.

788
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 7: It wouldn't even happen that way. Cub I was on

789
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 7: some cool groovy shit, not cut the same.

790
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: Louis Brow's real that you didn't a nigga. You knew

791
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: it was gonna have one. I sent you and then

792
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: you said I was that night.

793
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 7: I think you three times and you didn't do nothing.

794
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 7: I guess like you said you have to wait to

795
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 7: take your.

796
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: Jewey off and all they I didn't don't even people,

797
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: I didn't knowing.

798
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: No, I didn't do nothing.

799
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 5: I'm saying I got you first. You know you know

800
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: you did person not you? Then you you didn't even

801
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: say what time when you had me over there talking

802
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: to me. We having a regular conversation and freak me first, don't.

803
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 4: Even you were sending in my face? How sneak you called?

804
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: You do?

805
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: What did you not call me to your face?

806
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: Exactly? He was in my face?

807
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 7: Did you what? Did you not call me over there?

808
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 4: Though I dropped your goods head.

809
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 5: Man, get your faking that you called me over there?

810
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 5: We have a rare conversation exactly this coil you snake me.

811
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: I give you that one. Yeah, you're gonna have two

812
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 5: a niggas why you get up about the city so

813
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: big though you tell me so quick and I stayed

814
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: at the Inger after air, but they like move right there,

815
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: you right there? What you're saying, I'm talking about when

816
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 5: going out of the town. I don't even fight nigga.

817
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: What nigga, what you're trying to do, nigga, I want

818
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: my lick back.

819
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: We can escalate after that.

820
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: I want.

821
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 7: I don't want you to say that.

822
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

823
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 7: I don't want to.

824
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: It was based with me about my kids.

825
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 7: Indeed, swinging gonna be in the mister you talking.

826
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: I don't even fight sight nigga. I know you know

827
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: all my soulds that nigga. If you want to pull

828
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 5: up niggas, I'm game.

829
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: And I'm on tour. Nigga. Nothing, none of my soul

830
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: is a secret. I got back to Saint Louis. Don't

831
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: tell me what like that. God be sure to liken

832
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 4: me like that.

833
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 7: I got people in every city, every state, everybody.

834
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: You know.

835
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: I don't beat that people security, don't don't don't switch

836
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: it up, yeah, niggas, So people smelling nigga never had

837
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: secure whole to the right. Now something security, some security,

838
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: some one you hear. I was with a security the

839
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 5: whole My kids, you are opening at games.

840
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 7: You don't.

841
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: Look you up at you. I had one hundred to

842
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: be open.

843
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 7: And in the crowd game.

844
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: If you come up like I get.

845
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 5: Work at the light booths, don't even be there when

846
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 5: you perform Cooky, you were the first thing on the stage.

847
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 5: Can you understand you you don't need you need security?

848
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: Now you trying to it was a straight nobody trying to.

849
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 5: You was an R and B singing as I feel

850
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: crowd that damon, listen, it was listen.

851
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 7: That's a bit up. What bro it was?

852
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: That up?

853
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 7: Was that bias jumping as.

854
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: Listen? Was that RB singing when I dropped your ass

855
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: last night? Yes?

856
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: And no before you did when you was on, Yes

857
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 5: you were before you were shirt off big pays Listen.

858
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: I wasn't listen exactly. You just a farm store R

859
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: and B.

860
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 7: I was getting dressed on Benny getting dress When.

861
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 5: You come on, I'm a R and B singing on stage.

862
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 5: When I get off stage, you know what's on?

863
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 7: I didn't know. It's yesterday.

864
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: You show me what you about your day. God, I'm

865
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 4: gonna q I'm gonna catch up with you.

866
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 7: But we're gonna get our ones though I ain't.

867
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: Try to do bet me, nigga, you can beat me?

868
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 7: Why you didn't go hands up there?

869
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: Whatever? Whatever? Up?

870
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: Whatever you do, you get hands up. If I can't

871
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: beat you, Why wouldn't I do anything you name on

872
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 5: the mobs? Soon as you said it was it was

873
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: god time, I would have it back, man, right up?

874
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: I would have treated way back we was playing football.

875
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: You wait, four hundred punds, big way, two hundred pund

876
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 5: drop you first? You know, I don't know not playing

877
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: with me? Can you beat me?

878
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: I dropped your birth? Why are you going to.

879
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: Say it's that time? Come on, so so you got

880
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: a bag? Why you're gonna say it's bank of time?

881
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 4: Would you pounds?

882
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 5: So you're way three pounds brou I'm saying My point

883
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: is that you haven't a regular conversation with me.

884
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

885
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: Why that's a lot that's taking place. It's transparent, and

886
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of y'all. May I don't even

887
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: know what's going on. So let me kind of do

888
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: some context setting. So during a sixty Red concert on

889
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: September thirteen, twenty and twenty four, a physical altercation broke

890
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: out involving Atlanta rapper hunch Crew and a local Saint

891
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Louis figure known as Heavy G. While Sexy Red continued performing.

892
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Huncho's team, including his cameraman and manager, We're seen, allegedly,

893
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: according to Hype Fresh, throwing punches and attacking Heavy D.

894
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: We just watched the video. What those two guys linked up.

895
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real, I ain't a fan of the

896
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: link up with the ops and troll the ops and

897
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: all of that. That's what makes that beef last forever.

898
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: That's what makes it go forever and ever and ever.

899
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: It should be burned in people's sons and shit in

900
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: mine and cousins and nephews and nieces and brothers. It's like,

901
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I ain't a fan of the link up with the

902
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: OP and trol the op and talk like this in

903
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: here because you might spook me. See, I'm the kind

904
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: of nigga that I'm powerful, young nigga, So I jump

905
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: on the live. What your nigga say, nigga, You lucky

906
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: you got out the building quick enough, Go off of

907
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: the throw a grenade in the building. I'm a believe

908
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: in Yeah, nah man, shit now I'm believing in everybody.

909
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't understad may none of you suckers. I know

910
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: you nigga suckers, but that don't mean you harmless. You

911
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's different between a sucker and

912
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: a harmless nigga said, I don't think nobody harmless because

913
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: they sell guns there anybody, So everybody in my brain

914
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: and in my mind, but some of y'all niggas is suckers.

915
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: I think hunch Jo got put in a trick bag.

916
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: So when you do some so according to the young dudes,

917
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: that that's part of whatever culture. They're telling me that

918
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: this young man here is known to be like a finessa.

919
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: If you don't know what a fanessa is, you need

920
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: to tap out right now. Okay, So he's known to

921
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: be a fanessa. What it sounds like to me is

922
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Huncho has been finessed again. Not only has he been

923
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: finessed to admitting the fact that he's hit somebody and

924
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: attack somebody which holds him respond, but financially that's one

925
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: number two. He has you on an open Instagram live

926
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: inviting violence at your shows. And this is way bigger

927
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: than you. You see what I'm saying, so this is

928
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: a whole trick bag for a young rapper. But I

929
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: get it because he's standing on his He's standing on

930
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: this man. This little nigga be playing with me, but

931
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: it's too much as state. See if it's me, if

932
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm the young hot rap nigga is talking R and B. Man,

933
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm on stage popping that R and B shit. One

934
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: of my homeboys the scope shot packed him out.

935
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: Why I'm on stage.

936
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: He done got packed that right before I got off stage.

937
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: The homeboys even know. They see the little clock right there.

938
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: He got three more minutes packing out.

939
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: Rifle. Bruh, get off stage, buh, pack him out and

940
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: move around. He don't even know.

941
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: He get off stage not knowing what's going on, because

942
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: you gonna end up getting sued. It feels like this

943
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: dude is a Vanessa and he just got you to

944
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: get on live and admit that you attacked him at

945
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: the concert.

946
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: Why would you attack me like that?

947
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: Man?

948
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: You snuck me, man, I ain't sneak you. I dropped you.

949
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Nigga first punched, you went out got him. All young

950
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: niggas pay attention to this game. These old these niggas

951
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: just a little bit older than y'all. Come run these

952
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: little tricks on y'all. Y'all don't even know it's being ran.

953
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just not a fan of linking up with

954
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: a nigga that we got plans on attacking. I don't

955
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: got nobody in the industry I'm gonna attack, but I

956
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: guarantee if one of these boy play with me, somebody

957
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: going to bed, baby, I'm gonna put one of you

958
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: boys down.

959
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: You dig.

960
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: And so you ask yourself, what happens if they file

961
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: a lawsuit? What if they bring in Sexy Red? What

962
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: if they bring in the toring company. I ain't even

963
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna say their name, but I know who it is.

964
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: But what if they bring them in? What if they

965
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: bring all this bad publicity and press around what you've

966
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: done that night? Now, what does that do to your

967
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: boocket number? Well, it don't change. I'll just do clubs, okay.

968
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: But we know how this game work. You need ticket sales,

969
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: You need ticket numbers. You need that to go on

970
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: tour and keep that tour price coming. These club shows,

971
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: they every two or three years they switch up. It's

972
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: boss Man d Low turn right now to eat all

973
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: across the world in these little clubs. You dig what

974
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying for next two times had a turn, little

975
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: baby had a turn, Dirk had a turn, Thug had

976
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: everybody get their little turn to go, like to go

977
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: like two or three years through all these cities to

978
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: get bag sixties and seventies at little clubs, fouties and fifties.

979
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 7: You dig.

980
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: They get to do this for hundreds right before they

981
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: do tour. Then somebody come explain the game to them. Bro,

982
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: you need tour tickets and so without tour tniggas, what

983
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: do you do? So as a young rapper, as hauncho,

984
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: you understand me this loan, I'm giving you some game

985
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: like you gotta you gotta hold that shit down. You

986
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: gotta like control yourself, especially if you already know. We

987
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: just took care of that business. We don't never speak

988
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: on that. Look, we just handled that. We just saw

989
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: that nigga and really got with him. It ain't nothing

990
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to talk about, not with this nigga. This nigga playing

991
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: it for this game. Ain't he finna try to suit

992
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: for five hundred thousand or something? Ain't and what he

993
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: got going, That's how I'm looking at it. He may

994
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: not sue. But I'm telling you me how I'm looking

995
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: at it. If me and my homeboys pack you out

996
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: in the stompy eye, you get no play on my Instagram.

997
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: You is not getting juiced up on my gram. I'll

998
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: never say nothing about it. You've been packed out and

999
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: it's a period on that. But they put the rappers

1000
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: in the trick bag because they know the rappers. All

1001
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: they gonna say is your homeboys had to do it.

1002
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: And then the rappers egos is so fractured because they

1003
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: got so much money. Now they're dealing with the internal things.

1004
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: They're dealing with internal feelings of looking at people and

1005
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: saying they think I changed, or they think I won't

1006
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: defend myself, or maybe they think I'm going because now

1007
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: I got money. Now they overcompensate. But these a young guy.

1008
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: So this is a young dude that saying, man, who

1009
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: you playing with? Men like nigga god boy, you nigga,

1010
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: what I do to You gave me five hundred recks

1011
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: by getting on the live talking to me about attacking me.

1012
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Well, they finn play this in court.

1013
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: They just gave Rainwater three hundred and fifty thousand fucking

1014
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: with yellow beasy and what Yellow Beezy do go over

1015
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: there and put them hands on him and then look

1016
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: at the camera and say, Nigga, I beat him up.

1017
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: That's what cost him the money. What's costing? Did it

1018
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: his what's costing? Did it right?

1019
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Now?

1020
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: That video came out, what did he come out and do?

1021
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: Man my behavior that day, that's why he came Move

1022
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: right now. All you niggas gotta learn to be quiet

1023
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: when it comes, especially real crimes of violence and things

1024
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: like that. Learning shit their mouth, it'll keep you out

1025
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: you longer. So what I'm saying word from the wise,

1026
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: not them small fries. You dig It's up that podcast.

1027
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: Let's move on.