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Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, It is snow in an Archer Park.

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Speaker 1: What else is new? Right? It's horrible out. It's not

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Speaker 1: it's on the horizons. Yeah, welcome to the show. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here until three today, third straight day. We're

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Speaker 1: back after our hiatus last week and the third straight day.

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Speaker 1: We have news and pretty big news. Not Bill's news,

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Speaker 1: but NFL news. Today, the Baltimore Ravens have traded Joe

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes ago, half hour ago. Joe flat veteran quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner Joe Flacco is now with Denver Bronco.

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Speaker 1: Terms not disclosed. They can't officially make the deal until

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Speaker 1: the NFL league year begins on March thirteenth, one month

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Speaker 1: from today, but still a big deal. Seven that is

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Speaker 1: deal for both teams and I you know, John Elway

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Speaker 1: he's had different quarterbacks. He's the guy that went out

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Speaker 1: he went out and traded for He had brock Osweiler

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Speaker 1: there so far he maybe there's already you know or whoever,

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Speaker 1: of his career and he's given up. You know, listen,

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco can sling it. But I'm telling you what

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Speaker 1: don't let him skate on this. Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: He's got an answer for his failures too, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: who else is he gonna trade for? Who else is

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Speaker 1: neither did. I just don't think he's made a good

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Speaker 1: world got to three super Bowls, wasn't with Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: two two should have been to three, should have been

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Speaker 1: If for one Joe Flacco, the guy that completed that

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Speaker 1: I just think Flacco should be viewed as any other

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Speaker 1: We're not going to just talk about the Flacco trade.

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Speaker 1: Where was that game for three? For a month? And

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Speaker 1: they are vulnerable. They don't shoot You have already unbuckled

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Speaker 1: to his story if it if it rings true, if

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you're right, if I check out with

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Speaker 1: other sources or whatever sources, I have to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: what happened in Pittsburgh And it's like, well, he and

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Speaker 1: Ben had a you know, fight or hit that whatever

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Speaker 1: whatever scenario you conjure or you can think of that

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Speaker 1: makes you say, oh, I get it, Then it's almost, hey,

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes, get him, really, because if he's that,

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Speaker 1: if he's a happy guy and hit something happened maybe

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Speaker 1: as his personal life, maybe had a death in the family.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, whatever conjure up, whatever scenario you

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Speaker 1: can make off the field that made him act all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden after a nine stellar, nine year, eight

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Speaker 1: year career, that made him go off the deep end

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and you say, oh, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that before. And you know what, we can

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Speaker 1: we were past that, or he's gonna be past that,

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Speaker 1: or that's not going to be a factor in our

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Speaker 1: locker room. Then I think you gotta get him. You

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Speaker 1: are coming awfully close to sort of ignoring what went wrong.

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Speaker 1: Something went wrong, no question, that's just stilling to walk

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Speaker 1: away from it. You're willing to say, well, are you

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Speaker 1: okay now? Just tell us you're okay now, because then

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Speaker 1: we'll be okay. No, it happened. It was real. It

447
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Speaker 1: sabotaged his own team's playoff run. It happened, and if

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Speaker 1: you do it once, that's once too many. I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to take that chance. No matter what he says

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Speaker 1: in an interview, I'm one of them. I gotta admit too.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the guys that's a big culture guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was a beneficiary of a

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Speaker 1: great culture in the locker room. I've seen other teams

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Speaker 1: that were better because of that, with great players who

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Speaker 1: were great leaders, and it fostered a camaraderie in the

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Speaker 1: locker room where everybody in the locker room was better

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Speaker 1: because everybody was on board, and he didn't have any

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Speaker 1: guys like that on the team. There's an enorm in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, there's an enormous benefit to that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that believes it. But I also

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Speaker 1: know this that certain things happened to guys that puts

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Speaker 1: him in a bad spot, and they are willing to

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Speaker 1: do things out of character because of it. And up

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Speaker 1: until this last year. This would have been considered to

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Speaker 1: me out of character for Antonio Brown. But maybe when

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Speaker 1: you get a deep deep in it, that's exactly the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy he is, and he's they've always been

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Speaker 1: keeping a lid on it because they've kept him happy

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Speaker 1: or had to jump through hoops or make special considerations

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Speaker 1: for Antonio Brown. If that's the case, I'm with you

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. You can kick him to the curb

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Speaker 1: and you can have, you know, a zero tolerance policy

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Speaker 1: for guys like that, and I get it, So I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, but I want to know. I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that that's not the case. Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a risk that I'm not willing to take, no

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Speaker 1: matter what. I just think this this Twitter poll is

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Speaker 1: really amazing to have fifty fifty split like that. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Fifty one should the Bills trade for

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Antonio Brown? What do you think? Uh? Thirty

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Speaker 1: nine percent of you say no, he's bad for the

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Speaker 1: locker room. That's where I'm I'm at. Thirty four percent

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Speaker 1: of you say yes, but not using a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: That's where you are, right Steve, fifteen percent say yes,

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes. Need him, eleven percent say no, he

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Speaker 1: won't be effective. Here. Look, he's gonna be effective. He's

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Speaker 1: a good player, and somebody's going to sign him, and

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get production out of him, and somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: be happy with him. But in the back of their mind,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna know this could go south. Right. Here's the

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Speaker 1: thing too. If it was a situation where the Bills

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Speaker 1: trade a seventh round draft pick and can sign him

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Speaker 1: for the veteran minimum without risking anything, all of us

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Speaker 1: are on board with that. So that's that's where they

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Speaker 1: the gray area begins, anything that you start to risk

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Speaker 1: a little too much to give this guy a shot.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about over fifteen million bucks to trade

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Speaker 1: for him, and whatever assets did you got to give

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Speaker 1: up for him. First round, second round two ones or

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Speaker 1: two twos, a two and a three and a four

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Speaker 1: two this year or two next year and a three

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Speaker 1: this year. All these combinations of draft picks, plus the

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Speaker 1: fifteen point one year on the hook four and the

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Speaker 1: money subsequent to that, all that is the you know

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Speaker 1: what you're and I are stand I'm not giving a

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Speaker 1: first round pick and all that money for him, and

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. So there's the other end of

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Speaker 1: the gray area. Well, now that's a Pacific ocean of

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Speaker 1: gray area, you know. Now it's about what are we

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Speaker 1: you know, what are we talking about? And we're like

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Speaker 1: a coin flip away from saying no way and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: under the right circumstances, yeah, let's do it. And some

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Speaker 1: people fifteen percent of the people are saying, I don't care,

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Speaker 1: get it. They don't care about culture. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: an enormous gray area that we have managed to do

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job of splitting right down the middle.

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Speaker 1: We got the Twitter poll, we got something from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Should the Bills trade for a wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown from Bills and Mets Fan Bills and Met

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Speaker 1: Fan says, I'd bet my tax refund check this year

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Speaker 1: that Bean and McDermott would never make that trade. They're

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Speaker 1: too smart to take on such baggage, even if he

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Speaker 1: is supremely talented. And it's a pretty pretty good bet.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I don't think they're gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Daniel says the Steelers got the best of Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown's production over the last nine seasons. The Bills would

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Speaker 1: have to pay top dollar for a player that would

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Speaker 1: be heading towards the tail end of his career. They

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Speaker 1: need to keep drafting and developing players that fit coaches, culture,

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Speaker 1: and system. It's a pretty good tweet there as well.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Antonio. What's Antonio Brown got ahead of him?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna be as good as he was with

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger throwing to him as he if he comes

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Speaker 1: here and has Josh Allen thrown to him, would he

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Speaker 1: be just as good? Would he be the same? Would

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Speaker 1: it be a great fit? And there's been some people

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Speaker 1: who've chimed in on Twitter around the league and around

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Speaker 1: the football world who say, listen, Antonio Brown was good

539
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Speaker 1: because Ben Roethlisberger was throwing it to him. Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: benefited from going to a team that's won six Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: They know how to do it, and they know how

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Speaker 1: to use a wide receiver, and they know how to

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Speaker 1: develop players there. You know, he was lucky that he

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Speaker 1: got drafted in the fifth round by that club at

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Speaker 1: that point in history. And there's no question, there's an

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Speaker 1: argument to be made for that. No question, shouldn't Bill's

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Speaker 1: trade for Antonio Brown? What do you think it's our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We're discussing it and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: your phone calls when we come back. We're taking our

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Speaker 1: first break of the day. Got a good start to

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Speaker 1: today show. Steve and I here until three o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Right, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Orchard Park, One Bills Live. Gusty wind's blowing here

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Speaker 1: in the op right around newer Afield right next door

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Speaker 1: to us. We're in the at Pro Sports Training Center

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Speaker 1: in the One Buffalo studio. This is One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Collid to Health, John Murphy, Steve Tasker Here

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Speaker 1: until three. We get weather out here. Obviously Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: The wind is always the one that I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it scares me, but it's one that gets my attention,

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Speaker 1: especially in this building. I had to go for I've

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Speaker 1: got exterior lights in my house. Yeah, I had to

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Speaker 1: go out and fix a couple of them this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the wind was when the wind blows in this building.

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Speaker 1: Though over this building, the whole thing kind of just

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Speaker 1: don't you think the whole it's a big building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the field House at the State Bills fans have probably

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Speaker 1: all seen it, but yeah, it ain't it's not made

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Speaker 1: of brick, right, That's what I'm not afraid. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying again, listen, you always find this stuff out.

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Speaker 1: So when they first built, I was here when they

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Speaker 1: first built. That's how long I've been. In nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: I think they build it and so you know, people

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Speaker 1: didn't have the Administration building, which just a barn, right,

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Speaker 1: So I pull up next to it and it snowed right. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a metal building. So when that snow melted, just

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Speaker 1: a hair, all that snow came off the peak of

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Speaker 1: this eighteen story building or whatever it is and fell

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Speaker 1: right down on top of the cars that were partnered,

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Speaker 1: and it was totally yeah, totally crushed them. It's something

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Speaker 1: about the wind here that gets your attention, and it

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Speaker 1: does it rattles through. Plus the construction that's ongoing store.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what those guys can do in this weather.

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Speaker 1: We were sitting here the other yesterday. Did you hear

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Speaker 1: the backup beep? Yeah? I thought it was coming through

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Speaker 1: the wall. That thing's coming along too. It's the new

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Speaker 1: training center. The new weight room and training centers, and

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Speaker 1: they are rocketing through construction. This is an unofficial update

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Speaker 1: on the progress because they have a fish updates, but

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Speaker 1: they are flying through that. They am clothes now, they're

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Speaker 1: working on the I mean they've got their foot on

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Speaker 1: the gas and they are shifting gears. Man. I mean

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Speaker 1: we pull up, we park here when we come into

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Speaker 1: them to work every day, and man, it's like an

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Speaker 1: ant hill. Yeah, it's awesome. I wish they you know,

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Speaker 1: if I had a project, I want these guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whoever it is, through, whoever it is, man, they're they're

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Speaker 1: on it. Hey, the Bills trying to build a roster too,

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Speaker 1: and should Antonio Brown be part of that roster? That's

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. You can let us know bya Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We got a good Twitter poll going on. Should the

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Speaker 1: Bills trade for Antonio Brown? You can let us know

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Speaker 1: it with the telephone nine eight three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Let's take your call, or two Tom and lockboard. Hello, Tom, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. All right, this is

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Speaker 1: Tony Tony. Tony Tanna says, okay, sorry, Tony, Yes, um,

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Speaker 1: I think they should trade for him for the simple fact.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got the um. Josh Ellen needs a receiver,

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Speaker 1: Yes he does. And you take teams like Cleveland, he

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Speaker 1: was trying to win, even just trying to with. They

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Speaker 1: don't care who they get, as long as they're good

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Speaker 1: they get put them on the rosters. Yeah, where's that

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Speaker 1: gotten them, though, Tony, It's got a Johnny Manziel, Josh Gordon,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's got a Trent Richardson, you know. But

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00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to win. They went from three seasons with

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Speaker 1: no wins or maybe one win in three seasons to

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Speaker 1: last year they almost made the playoffs. Tony, let's dive

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Speaker 1: into the Buffalo is trying to win. Two. The Bills

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Speaker 1: are trying to win, right. I think you may or

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Speaker 1: may not acknowledge that. But they're trying to win by

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Speaker 1: not and look, they're not building a you know, a

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Speaker 1: kid's camp here. They're trying to win by having character

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Speaker 1: guys who they don't have to worry about disrupting the

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Speaker 1: team chemistry. And that's really another way to win. And

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Speaker 1: I think would you acknowledge Tony that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: trying to win also just do it going about it

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Speaker 1: and perhaps a different way. What do you think, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I won one hundred dollars last year

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Speaker 1: when they traded Tyrod tail. I bet bet my neighbor

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars that they wouldn't make the play. Well,

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Speaker 1: good for you, Yeah, I'll get it. But here's how

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Speaker 1: about this time. Here's another thing too. The Bills are

635
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: trying to do this in a way, get to where

636
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: they're a winning team, but also a winning team every year,

637
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: not like just this year, not like it was like

638
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: like year when they caught lightning in a bottle a

639
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit and got to the playoffs and went to

640
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in the playoffs two years ago. Now they're trying

641
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: to do that and get to that spot spot every year,

642
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: because when you get guys like they're trying to get

643
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: in and have the cap straightened out, and they're in

644
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: a spot financially where they can get guys they really

645
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: need and get guys they really want and still have

646
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: money to spend and still have room for depth. They

647
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: can do it every year. That's their plan. And I

648
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: see teams like well like this year, and good for them.

649
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: The La Rams they pushed all their chips to the table.

650
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: They went out and got a keep to leave. They

651
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: got out Marcus Peters, they got in Dominican Sue, and

652
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: they got and put them on that team, and they

653
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: got them to the super Bowl. But now you know,

654
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: and Dominicensue is a free agent. You know, some of

655
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, so they're not going to be

656
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: able to sustain that for long term. And that's and

657
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Browns are going to be able

658
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: to sustain what they're doing long term if you know,

659
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: keep getting these guys, and we've seen it backfire and

660
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: blow up in their face when they get the wrong

661
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of guy. So, Tony, I get what you're saying.

662
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: And I think you're one of those guys that in

663
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: the fifteen percent of our Twitter poll who thinks, hey,

664
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: just get the guy, you know, no matter what, don't

665
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: worry about culture. And I don't know that the Bills

666
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: are in a position to do that. And I don't

667
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: know that I agree with you just to get the guy,

668
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: just to get him. I don't agree with him because

669
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing, your wide receiving corps get better. I

670
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: gotta freely admit that if Antonio Brown is on the

671
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: bills right now, your wide receiving room is better. But

672
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you're also fifteen dollars fifteen million dollars poorer and whatever

673
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: draft picks that you gave for him poor. So the

674
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: team around that receiving group, although it got better, the

675
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: rest of the room got worse. All the offensive line

676
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: didn't get any better, the defensive pass rush didn't get

677
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: any better. You didn't get a tight end out of

678
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: the deal. You still got the same running backs that

679
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: you did. So that's what you have to That's what

680
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you have to balance. Thanks for your calling. We'll go

681
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: to a Bruce in only end. Hellbo Bruce, Welcome to

682
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: the show. You're on the air with us. Thanks John,

683
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: nice to talk to you too. If I had Brandon

684
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Beans here, I would tell him to stay as far

685
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: away from Antonio Brown as possible. And here's why his

686
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: antics seemed to coincide with the run that Jujiu Smith

687
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Shuster started getting and getting mentioned as the heir apparent

688
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: as the number one receiver for Pittsburgh. And I think

689
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: that was It's all ego driven everything he's been doing

690
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: since then. And I think if the Bills signed him,

691
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and if Zay Jones continues his improvement and he ever

692
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: gets mentioned as the Bill's number one receiver, you're going

693
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: to see the same situation play out all over again.

694
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. I hadn't really thought about that, um,

695
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: But that was also the truth about And I can't

696
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: remember the name of the wide receiver last year who

697
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: got benched because of Juju Smith Schuster being emerging. They

698
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: got rid of him and Martavius Bryant. That's exactly right.

699
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: Martavious Bryant was also a guy who became disenchanted in

700
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and you know, was shown the door because it's

701
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the same thing. I don't think, you know, we don't

702
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: need a prima down a wide receiver, UM, and it's

703
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: it would be locker room poison, I believe to sign

704
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: him to the team. Yeah, that's that's an interesting And

705
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: I get it. And you're right, you're right in the

706
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: right in the wheelhouse of where most people are on

707
00:33:53,560 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: this who say no, I mean yeah, and I get it.

708
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: I get it. It looks he looks well and surprisingly

709
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: like a bad guy. And I don't know the guy.

710
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he's always been you know, He's never been

711
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: known like this up until this year, and then all

712
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden this came out of nowhere where he

713
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: just just just went off the air, right. Yeah. I

714
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: mean I was aware of him as a really good

715
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: player for the last couple of years, didn't know anything

716
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: about his character or his personality. Shane and A on

717
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: a cell phone. Hello, Shane, go ahead, Hi, how are

718
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: you guys today? We're real good? Um, I think that

719
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: the Bill should pick him up. Um, given no, I'm

720
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: on mc dermot's bus, and given his history with being

721
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: magical with trades, can pick him up and he does

722
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: really well being our number one for a year, mcdermick

723
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: can trade him for more who's history of being magical

724
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: with trades? Mcdermot's from that to go with trade? Which

725
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: one are you thinking of? Um? Getting rid of our

726
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: big cap hit players that we had a few years ago,

727
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: and he was able to get really good picks for

728
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: him and everything he's done in the past two years

729
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: with the trains he's made all right. So so, Shane,

730
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: what you're really saying is you trust, you trust Brandon

731
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: Bean and these guys to uh to sign the guy,

732
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and you kind of trust their judgment. If they think

733
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: it's a deal worth making, you're willing to go with it. Yeah,

734
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: And I think having Antonio Brown was Josh Allen still

735
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: young and adding the rookie and Antonio Brown as some

736
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: of the best hands in the league right now, he's

737
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers. I think that would

738
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: really helped Josh Allen's development. Yeah, I mean that's the

739
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: that's the that's the uh. Yeah, thanks for the Carl

740
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: Shane that that's exactly you know where we've been at

741
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: um since you know, early in the season, midway through

742
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: the football season this last year. Josh needs more weapons

743
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: and then finally they got some speed on the field

744
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: with Robert Foster and along with Zay Jones and started

745
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: to spread it out a little bit and it did help.

746
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: It'll be we all believe Josh Allen is good enough

747
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: to merit a top quality receiving core because he'll be

748
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: able to get it the most out of him. He

749
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: can push the ball down the field, he loves to

750
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: do it. And when he can spread a defense that

751
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: thin going deep. You know, it all points toward we

752
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: need a guy like Antonio Brown, but there are other

753
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: guys out there. That may be just as good should

754
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: the Bill's trade for him Antonio Brown from the tweet

755
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: sheet from Tom Deering. He says, they'll never do it,

756
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: but in my book, there's at least no way he

757
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: can make the receiving core any worse. Well, talent wise,

758
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: you're right, he is, he would be. It would be

759
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: an addition of talent to the receiving corps. Could he

760
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: make him worse well, if he fosters discontent, if he

761
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: doesn't win the trust of his teammates, then yeah, he

762
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: could make them worse. And not only but what is

763
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: also you got to balance that, Like I said a

764
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: few minutes ago, you got to balance that with what

765
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: you have to invest to get him. Draft picks and cash.

766
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: If all of that in a pile, they got a

767
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: lot of them each by the way, right, But they've

768
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: got some needs elsewhere, yes, that are not gonna get

769
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: filled if you put them into Antonio Brown, right, And

770
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: that's that's what you got away. And I don't know

771
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: that the draft picks and the money you're gonna have

772
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: to invest in Antonio Brown will pay this much of

773
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: bigger dividends as if you got a guy like you know,

774
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, you know, the All Pro guard for the

775
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts in the draft, right, well, who can say?

776
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Who can say? Right? Right? But that's the point is

777
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna use it somebodies. There's there's a cost, and

778
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that Antonio Brown, even though he would.

779
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't want a guy who goes in there and

780
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: doesn't make it worse for that kind of investment. I

781
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: want a guy that goes in there and knocks it

782
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: out of the park and it's like a dominant wide receiver,

783
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: a great guy, great leader. For that kind of investment,

784
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want a guy who is

785
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: a phenomenal player, a productive player, and who makes other

786
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: guys better. You're not there just to have him say, well,

787
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: that couldn't be any worse. You're not investing that kind

788
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: of those kind of assets and say, guy, you can't

789
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: be any worse, right. Terrence King tweets us, and I

790
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: believe the Bills Brash should think they can add any

791
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: player to the locker room because we do the right

792
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: things here and any player that comes in will fit.

793
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: We can help him adjust. We need talent on offense.

794
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Take a chance. You talked about this yesterday. There is

795
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you, there's a certain extent there is

796
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: a cap on the number of so called bad character,

797
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: questionable character guys you can bring in, right, a cap

798
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't want a locker room filled with them.

799
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: But if you have the right culture going on, which

800
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: I think the Bills believe that they have established the

801
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: right culture, established it and I finalized it, and they

802
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: could probably think we can afford to add a few

803
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: questionable guys and he'll become acclimated to the work. And

804
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: it's not about we've seen the Patriots do it. Yeah.

805
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, great example. By the way, I

806
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: gotta say this being has said this to you. They're

807
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: not talking about adding alter boys, not talking about adding

808
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: people who who go around doing good deeds. That'd be

809
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: nice if they did. They're talking about good teammates. They're

810
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: talking about guys who adhere to the standards that they

811
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: set for work in practice. Right, this is not a

812
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: question of you know, who's going to mass on Sunday.

813
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: It's a question of who's going to work on Monday

814
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: through Saturday, right, Right, I get it. Who're up against

815
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: a break. So I'm not gonna get into that because

816
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: I did it yesterday. But I could rant about going

817
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: rant love when you ran, because what happens is you

818
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: do need listen. You got fifty three guys in there,

819
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: and they come from everywhere. You got guys of different races,

820
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: guys of different religions, guys of different political beliefs, guys

821
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: that are old veterans. You got guys that are brand

822
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: new to the league. And they all got to come

823
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: together from all these different points of view of life

824
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: and pull in the same direction. And it takes all

825
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: of them and they all help and they all learn

826
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: from each other because they're so different, and it's a

827
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: great atmosphere to be a guy. As I remember, it

828
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: was so fun to go to work in an environment

829
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: like that because you learn things, you were challenged, and

830
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: you can contribute and it's a great environment. So I'm

831
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: not saying that everybody's got to be a cookie cutter

832
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: player in personality, and certainly you know you don't. They're

833
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: not cookie cutters where you've got a guard and a

834
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But in personality and professionalism and all these

835
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: other characterists that we're talking about, they're not to be

836
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: cookie cutter. But there has to be a culture that

837
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: means something. And we've seen even on this in the

838
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: in the in the early stages of this being and

839
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: McDermott era that does make a difference. And you know,

840
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: so that's that's got to be a priority. I think again,

841
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: it's a culture of work. It's a culture of expectations.

842
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: It's the baseline. Here is the standard. This is how

843
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: we do things here. It's not about doing good deeds

844
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: or um all of that stuff. And that's great if

845
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: you can do that too, by the way, but I

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Speaker 1: believe that's what the culture is thin. Here's the thing too, Murph.

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00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing football. I mean it's a it's

848
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: a confrontation. It's a brutal, physical confrontation. And most people

849
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: don't understand that when your job is to physically move

850
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: or confront or punish or whatever you want to call

851
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: it another human being against their will, it's a it's

852
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: a mindset that demands some certain things in your personality.

853
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: And and some guys need help get into that point.

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00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Other guys live in that right and it's all you know,

855
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: and you gotta and you gotta love each other because

856
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: of it, because you help each other do that and

857
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: you need some guys on your team that bring a

858
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: little grit, you know that that have sandpaper in their pocket,

859
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: and they don't let you, you know, rest on that.

860
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: They demand that of you. And so that's that's part

861
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: of what this culture thing amounts to. Should the Bill's

862
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: trade for Antonio Brown plus big trade. Today, the Baltimore

863
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: Raven sent quarterback Joe Flacco to the Denver Broncos. We'll

864
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Speaker 1: talk about all of that with you. Phone lines open,

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Speaker 1: you can tweet it in at One Bill's Live. Come

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Speaker 1: on back. It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. A

868
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: huge mistake. Steve and I been talking about Valient to males,

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Speaker 1: Valentine of state. Seeve be excited. I am, I got

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Speaker 1: a big plans. Do you have big plans? Because a

871
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: minute ago you didn't. You're killing me. I think we

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: got married in nineteen eighty six. I did you did right?

873
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Thirty it'll be thirty two years. It's it'll be thirty

874
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Speaker 1: three for us in June thirty three. There are you

875
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Speaker 1: over in June, so we must be doing something right.

876
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Our wives are I can't speak for you. And me,

877
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: good boy, somebody's doing something right. I have a guy

878
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Speaker 1: can't take any credit for it. So Valentine's Day is

879
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: not a big me neither. By the way, it is,

880
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: it's extremely meaningful. And that's as far as we're gonna go,

881
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: because we don't want to get in trouble. That's right. Hey,

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00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was traded today. Ravens quarterback, longtime Ravens quarterback,

883
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Speaker 1: former Super Bowl MVP. Right, he was the MVP of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Joe Flacco. The Ravens have an agreement

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Speaker 1: in principal to trade the former Super Bowl MVP to

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Um no terms yet. When the deal

887
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: is completed, it is likely it will be for a

888
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: mid round pick. According to ESPN, trade cannop be officially

889
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: processed until the new league year begins on March thirteenth,

890
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: a month away. But Edward, you've seen the observation on

891
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Edward Or, who is a national media member, and I'd

892
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: probably been on the show before. But he says, listen

893
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: to this, and he got Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes for Kansas City,

894
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers for San Diego Charger. Excuse me, Derek Carr

895
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: for the Raiders and Joe Flacco. That's the AFC West quarterbacks.

896
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: So the Broncos trade for Flacco and he got Mahomes,

897
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: Rivers and car Where do the do the Broncos move

898
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: up the ladder at all? Nope, they don't. They don't.

899
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: You know, maybe team wise, I would still put him

900
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Speaker 1: ahead of Oakland. But I think Joe Flacco, I mean,

901
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: he's still man, he still might be. He's at least three,

902
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: probably fourth in that group. ESPN saying it's a mid

903
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: round pick, which I would interpret his what third, fourth,

904
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: fifth round? Yeah, that second, first or second Tyrod Taylor.

905
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: The Bill's got a third rounder for Tyrod Taylor a

906
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: year ago. Is this gonna be a comparable trade when

907
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, because Flacco was more accomplished

908
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: than Tyrod Taylor. Right, Well, he's a rowl MVP. He's

909
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: a better thrower of the football. Yeah, for sure. And

910
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: that's about it. So if you're making the argument that

911
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: it's a good trade for Denver, which I'm not sure

912
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready to make at all, you could say that, Look,

913
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: you got a former Super Bowl MVP. Maybe not in

914
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: the prime of his career, but certainly with them some

915
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: miles left on the tires. Got him for a third

916
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: round pick. That's what Cleveland paid to get Tyrod Taylor

917
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: a year ago. I'll say this, I think Denver got better.

918
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: I like Joe Flacco way more than I did case Keenum, Okay,

919
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: way more. And I think Joe Flacco is going to

920
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: do some things for that offense that Case Keenum could

921
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: not do or would not do. I think Joe Flacco

922
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: and still I still believe he can really throw it.

923
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Denver got better as a team. Certainly,

924
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: that's a tough division to play quarterback in and be

925
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 1: and think, make yourself think that you've got the better

926
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Speaker 1: guy in any given division game. The Chiefs and the

927
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: Chargers are loaded at that spot. Philip Rivers played phenomenally

928
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, he had a great year. And Derek

929
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: Carr we've seen him play well, but he's in They're

930
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: in a full rebuild in Oakland. I don't think they're

931
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Speaker 1: gonna be dug out of it this year, so he's

932
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, kind of doing it with one

933
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: hand tied behind his back a little bit. I would

934
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: think again this year. But team wise, I think Joe

935
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Speaker 1: Flacco makes the Broncos better, but I still think individually speaking,

936
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Speaker 1: he might be the fourth best guy in the division.

937
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Speaker 1: Very interesting trade that is, that is it's a great trade,

938
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Speaker 1: I think for Denver. I just do. I just think

939
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Speaker 1: it's a great move. It's a great trade for a

940
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Speaker 1: midday radio talk show about the NFL. Yeah, that's what

941
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Speaker 1: we need. We're gonna talk more about it at one thirty.

942
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Andy Lindo, who is the sideline reporter on the Denver

943
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: Broncos Radio Network's going to join us at one thirty

944
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: today line from Denver KOA Radio in Denver. Gonna break

945
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: here at the top of the hour and we come back.

946
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Arthur Moats, don't cross the Moats, one of the favorite

947
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in recent years. He'll be joining us. He's

948
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: dipping his toe into the media waters in Pittsburgh where

949
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: he finished up his career with the Steelers. He should

950
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: have some thoughts, I would think on Antonio Brown and

951
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Libyan Bell, Arthur Moats when we come back, come on

952
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: back with us One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

953
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills Radio Network. Story they trade

954
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL Today, The Baltimore Raven seven agreement in principle,

955
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: the trade former Super Bowl MVP quarterback Joe Flacco to

956
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. The trade cannot be officially processed until

957
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: the league year begins on March thirteenth. When the deal

958
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: is completed, it would likely be for a mid round

959
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: draft pick. Albert Breer of NFL dot Com says it'll

960
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: be a fourth round pick. That means the Baltimore officially

961
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: commits to Lamar Jackson. It means the Broncos, as the

962
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: tenth overall picking this year's draft, are addressing their biggest

963
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: need before they get to the draft. Joe Flacco gonna

964
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: go to the Denver Broncos on March thirteenth. Yesterday, the

965
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: Bill signed a backup offensive lineman Spencer Long to a

966
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: three year deal, one week after he is released by

967
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: the Jets. Long released by the Jets and a cost

968
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: saving Reneuver picked up by the Bills. March seventeenth is

969
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: the day when the Pittsburgh Steelers may have to make

970
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: a move on Antonio Brown. That's according to NFL dot Com.

971
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: They say the likely deadline for the Steelers potentially trading

972
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Brown is March seventeen, when the two and a half

973
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: million dollar roster bonus is due. New Cardinals head coach

974
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury may have said he likes Kyler Murray back

975
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: in October, but now he says he's sticking with Josh

976
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: Rosen as his quarterback. He says our feelings towards Josh

977
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: have not changed or waned or anything. Kyler Murray, the

978
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: former Oklahoma quarterback, announced two days ago he will play

979
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: football instead of baseball for the Oakland A's and the

980
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have the first overall pit Raiders have had

981
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: their first talks about returning for one final season to

982
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Oakland after the city filed suit over the team's plan

983
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 1: moved to Las Vegas, Oakland. Kyla Seems, executive director says

984
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: he met with the Raiders president last week about a

985
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: lease for twenty nineteen. Buffalo Sabers last night beat the

986
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: Honitors three to one, and Key Bank center Jeff Skinner,

987
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Jason Palmonville, Johan Larson scored for Buffalo. Savers will practice

988
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow then play the Rangers on Friday, the final game

989
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: of Buffalo seven game homestand Pittsburgh Penguin star f Jenny

990
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Malkins suspended one game by the NHL for an intentional

991
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: stick swing, and Saint Bonaventrew's basketball team with a dominant

992
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: seventy six fifty one win over Saint Joe's last night

993
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: for head coach Mark Schmidt. Win number two oh two

994
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: with the Bonnies. That ties up and Larry we see

995
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: for the program's all time coaching wins record. And that's

996
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

997
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 1: we are motoring into our number two of the show.

998
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Happy to have a familiar voice, a familiar name on

999
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: the line with us. He started his NFL career here

1000
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills, a traff pick out of James Madison,

1001
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: played with the Bills for four seasons two ten through

1002
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: two thirteen, then went on to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1003
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: We've got former NFL linebacker Arthur Moats on the line

1004
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: with us as he gets into broadcasting in Pittsburgh. Arthur,

1005
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: John Murphy up here in Buffalo was Steve Tasker. How

1006
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: are you, buddy? Have you been? We're great. We miss you.

1007
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: We've missed you since you left a couple of years ago.

1008
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: You were great. You're a great guest on the show.

1009
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: You were a very good player for the Bills and

1010
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: really just a pleasure to be around. And I know

1011
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: you kind of carried that whole demeanor down there to Pittsburgh.

1012
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: You fit right in with the Steelers down there, didn't you. Yeah. Man,

1013
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: it was a smood transition for me and my family,

1014
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: just thinking about you know, can see on my office,

1015
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: will work, my non popping stuff. Everything was smood transition.

1016
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: And ultimately I was really fortunate for it's like this

1017
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: because a lot of times it isn't that smooth. So yeah, man,

1018
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: it definitely was good for me. You got a chance

1019
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: to play for the Steelers. That's what They've always been.

1020
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: One of the stellar organizations in football. They've got six

1021
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophies and just this year the Patriots in New

1022
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: England got their six Lombardi Trophy. And as you look

1023
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: at the two of those organizations, who are you pulling?

1024
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Who do you think not pulling for? But who do

1025
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: you think we'll get the seventh Lombardi Trophy? The Steelers

1026
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: or the Patriots? Who'll get it first? Yeah? So when

1027
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: I think about that, I personally, just because of how

1028
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: consistent New England has been over these past you know,

1029
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: years and the fact they still have Belichick, they still

1030
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: have Brady coming back. I feel that they will probably

1031
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: get to seven first, just because it can happen within

1032
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: a year or two. If you look over the past

1033
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: four out of the five Super Bowls they've played, and

1034
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: they won three out of the last four. But now

1035
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: when I think of long term, I do feel that

1036
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has the potential to win more down the line.

1037
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: Why do you say that, Arthur just Man based off

1038
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 1: of the fact that with Pittsburgh they won super Bowls

1039
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: with three different quarterbacks. You had Chuck no win four

1040
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: super Bowls, You've had Bi colinwin and then you have

1041
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Mike Kamla win two as well. So when you think

1042
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: about three different quarterbacks, three different quarterbacks, three different coaches,

1043
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: all I've won super Bowls worth in New England, it's

1044
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: strictly been Brady and Belichick. So outside of those two

1045
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: being together, we haven't seen them have that type of

1046
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: success before. So I feel that whenever that run does.

1047
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: And we know with Brady, as what you said, he

1048
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: wants to play the league, you know, forty five, forty six,

1049
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: forty seven, I mean his window is closing. We're looking

1050
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: at two two three years tops from my personal opinion

1051
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: on it. So when he leaves, now that's a whole

1052
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: another dynamic and I just haven't seen New England operating

1053
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: that level of consistency at link can leg has been

1054
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: with those two together. I just got to ask about

1055
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: that level of consistency in recent years has been sort

1056
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: of the trademark, the hallmark of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

1057
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't there this year. Arthur. What happened to the

1058
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: Steelers in twenty eighteen? Man, I feel like they just

1059
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff that typically destructions that typically

1060
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't affect them. I felt like it did. One thing

1061
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: that goes I feel like didn't get mentioned enough with

1062
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: the leavy On situation, and not in terms of just

1063
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: the contract, but that selling in the locker room, that's

1064
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: selling of it divided it where you have some of

1065
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: the guys who are supporting him and understanding the fight

1066
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: that he's making as a player, whether you have the

1067
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: other guys who are looking made it from managing standpoint

1068
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: saying that hey, you need to be here, You're the

1069
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: reason why when I women So when you think about

1070
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: that divide that really affected them more than they let

1071
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: onto and then I just felt like as the year progressed,

1072
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: there was so many little things that would happen here.

1073
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: And there also the kicker this year because Bottle he

1074
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: struggled a lot this year contact the last year, and

1075
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: that was the difference in three four wins easily. Yeah,

1076
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting point. It's not just always one thing.

1077
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: It's always a couple of things. And at the end

1078
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: of the year, the thing that grabbed the headlines was

1079
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. We've been talking here in Buffalo about his

1080
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: availability now that he has made it clear he wants

1081
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: to be traded from Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has stated they were

1082
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: really unhappy with the way he handled himself there at

1083
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and it looks like they're

1084
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: going to come to a parting of ways. Is that

1085
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: how you see it transpiring in Pittsburgh? You think you

1086
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: think Antonio Brown has played his last down as a Steeler.

1087
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: I do think he has. In this is why when

1088
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean as a player, listen in general, whenever you

1089
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: think of somebody who does want to be a part

1090
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: of a team, somebody that doesn't want to be there,

1091
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: they want to be traded released. Whatever the reason is.

1092
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: If you keep that player, not only are you opening

1093
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: up a whole can of worms in regards to how

1094
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: they may act and the backlights that you're going to

1095
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: receive from that player, but then also you think about

1096
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: the players that are around him after everything that's transpired

1097
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: throughout from week seventeen up until this point. Now, if

1098
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: you're a guy in that locker room and you're like, well,

1099
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: this guy has clearly needed Clearly they didn't want to

1100
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: be here. So now I'm questioning how much is he

1101
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: really putting into this? I'm questioning, Okay, if things started

1102
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: to get thick in the season, as it happens every year,

1103
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: you might lose a game or two here and there.

1104
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm wondering, is this guy gonna shut it down

1105
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: on me? These are all those things that pulling into

1106
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: a set all because of those comments that he's made

1107
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: in the way he's acting this all season. So if

1108
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm the Stills organization, I feel that you have to

1109
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: move him, but you don't release him because he's worth

1110
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: too much. You have to trade them because you want

1111
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: some type of conversation back for him. But I feel

1112
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: that a fresh Starters was definitely needed for him. And

1113
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like with the organization, I mean, the Steelers,

1114
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: they've been under the they've been scrutinized a lot this

1115
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: year in particular, so I feel that that fresh start

1116
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: could also be good for them as well. All Right,

1117
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this as well. And you were

1118
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: there in Pittsburgh for a number of years. You've played

1119
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: with Antonio Bryant, You've played with Ben Roethlisberger. I mean,

1120
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: what kind of guy was Antonio Brown before he was unhappy?

1121
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: What led to the point where Antonio Brown said, I

1122
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: am so done with his Steelers team. What happened, We'll see.

1123
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: That's the funny game. Nobody but him knows. And it's

1124
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: been times that he's hinted throughout this whole off season

1125
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: about he's gonna give an interview. He's gonna publicly say

1126
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: his side because he felt that everybody was making him

1127
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: escape bold, everybody was saying one thing, but that's not

1128
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: really the case, and he wants to get his side out.

1129
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: But at the super Bowl he said that something's a

1130
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: better fun said, it's better for business. So he said

1131
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: that he's not going to do an interview and not

1132
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: tell people so honestly, nobody knows. But I can't say

1133
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: that when it comes to teammates. I mean, he was

1134
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates just because outside of Week seventeen,

1135
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: you knew he was always gonna show up. He was

1136
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: always going to give a laite level effort, and he

1137
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: was just a down to earth person. I mean everyone

1138
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: sees there's the nice cars and the expensive clothes and

1139
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: things like that, but I mean he's a guy that

1140
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: he would joke with your hame with you, if you're

1141
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar guy, all of your practic squad player,

1142
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: He's still gonna show you that love and just ultimately

1143
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: embrace you. So that's why I feel like a lot

1144
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: of the guys rallied around it. But obviously that was

1145
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: probably two you know, him doing all this this whole season.

1146
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: All right, there's a question, and when we talk here

1147
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo about should the Bills trade for Antonio Brown,

1148
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: the issue is sort of how much of that does

1149
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: how much does his late season meltdown in Pittsburgh, how

1150
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: much does that does he bring with him, and how

1151
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: does that impact the Seeler's ability to make a meaningful

1152
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: fair trade involving Antonio Brown. What do you think? Boy,

1153
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: that's a really good point. And I feel that honestly,

1154
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: he's hurt his trade value a lot. I don't know

1155
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: if he's doing it directly or indirectly, but if you're

1156
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: another organization, somebody beats you out the fact thorn or Yes,

1157
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: he has publicly been a headache. Yes, he has also

1158
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: issues when you think about the speed ending, and then

1159
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: also he has an ongoing investigation with a domestic dispute

1160
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: down in Florida, So those are other things you have

1161
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: to consider. He'll be thirty one the season starts. It's

1162
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it. So initially, if you're

1163
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: just taking at the fleet value, you would say, oh, yeah,

1164
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: you would definitely get a first round did for ad.

1165
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: But when you factoring all of these other things, you're like, hey,

1166
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: why would I give up a first round pick when

1167
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: statistically someone when you get past that thirty one more

1168
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: if you're looking at maybe two to three years tops

1169
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: of like being that elite caliber at the receiver position.

1170
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: So that being said, I'm saying anywhere between the two

1171
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: second and third round guys, I mean something the third

1172
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: round picks. But it really just depends on what else

1173
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: happens right now, because this is up to the day.

1174
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows in a week from now

1175
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: what else could come up or what else you could

1176
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: have done to horse the voting the more. One of

1177
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: the things I also wanted to ask you, and you

1178
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: mentioned it early in our interview, was the told that

1179
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the Levion Bell situation took on the Pittsburgh Steelers. You

1180
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: felt that was really a drag on them for the

1181
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: entire year. How do you think it? First of all,

1182
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: obviously Levion wants to get paid, he wants some guaranteed money.

1183
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: How do you think that's going to affect his career?

1184
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: And how did it affect the Steelers this season? So,

1185
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I man, it definitely affected them a

1186
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: lot emotionally. Even though they didn't want to hint to it.

1187
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: You could just tell was the demeanor of the guys

1188
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: in the locker room in their interviews. You look at

1189
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: how they were joking about things at training camp, but

1190
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: then as the season one one, you could tell they

1191
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: were more irritated by it because hey, we're losing and

1192
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: you're asking us why the stayers are here when we

1193
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: know this career It could be the difference maker for

1194
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: our team. Now, when I think about just how everything

1195
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: could potentially play out for leaving, huh. If he returned

1196
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, I thought like his career still is on

1197
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: a high tree drinker. He still can be successful. Now,

1198
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get as much money stand in Pittsburgh, especially

1199
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: with James Connor emerging into a playmaker in this league.

1200
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, if he leaves, yeah, he

1201
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: would potentially get more money, but I don't think the

1202
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: situation will be as good. I mean. And here in Pittsburgh,

1203
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: while he was here, he had Dann Rovinsburgh, who's a

1204
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame quarterback, Antonio Brown's future Halls Fame receiver.

1205
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: He even got a season, and with Juju Smith Schuster,

1206
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: who's in another another emerging star in this league. One

1207
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: of the top offensive lines as well. So everything was

1208
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: in place for him to be successful. Now when you

1209
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: take him and you put him in saves the Jets

1210
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: because they have a ton of cap space or the quotes.

1211
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Those offenses aren't nowhere near the same level of the

1212
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Steelers offenses. And I feel like, yes, he could get

1213
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 1: more money going to those places, but his success would

1214
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: definitely take a hit because now you don't have all

1215
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: these other distractions on the s. They're keying in on

1216
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: you and only you, and that is a difference maker

1217
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: when you think about the matches that he was able

1218
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: to get and exploit out there right on line with

1219
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Arthur Moats Farmer Bills linebacker. Four years here, four years

1220
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Uh, you are out officially? Are you

1221
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: officially retired yet? Arthur? I know you're you're doing little

1222
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: radio work down there in Pittsburgh. Is or any chance

1223
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: I haven't officially retired out honestly, just taking this time

1224
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: to just kind of re evaluate my point in status

1225
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: and things like that at my home. Just also enjoying

1226
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: the family time, doing the media thing that I've thoroughly

1227
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed it a lot outside of ont In, Arizona. Earlier

1228
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: this past season, ends up getting put on injury reserve

1229
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: and that really gave me a time to just dive

1230
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: into the media aspect do some radio stuff. So I'm

1231
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, enjoying this process right now.

1232
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: But as the off season progressives, I'll definitely be making

1233
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: a decision sooner than later and I'll go from there.

1234
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: And the last couple of years with the Steelers, you

1235
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on special teams. I'm wondering

1236
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: what you think of what the league has done with

1237
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: special teams in particular kickoff sort of You know, you're

1238
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: you're out there trying to make a living a lot

1239
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: of that on special teams working they seem to be

1240
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: pulling the rug out from underneath you. Sometimes. Yeah they

1241
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: are man and it's unfortunate. But I understand from a

1242
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: health standpoint when you think about guys like me and

1243
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: then honestly, I feel like seventy the NFL was made

1244
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: up of guys who, yeah, they played some of offensive defense,

1245
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: but they also have a major role on special teams.

1246
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: When you start taking that element away from the game,

1247
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: that does effect the need for certain players in the rosters.

1248
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: But like I said, from a health standpoint, I think

1249
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: about just the AA the Alliance of American Football. They

1250
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: don't even have kickoffs anymore. And when you think about

1251
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 1: the leading cause of the concussions and game statistically, it's

1252
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: on the kickoff play. Just because you have, you know,

1253
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: a large space to run up and you're hitting guy's

1254
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: full speed and on that plays into it. I do

1255
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: feel that the kicking game is still extremely important though,

1256
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: and it still should be respecting of Summer God. I mean,

1257
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: obviously Test is a guy who's a legend special teams.

1258
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: Why he could attest to the impact you can have

1259
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: as a special team. But I just feel that certain

1260
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: aspects could still be tweaked without removing it completely from

1261
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, it's interesting, they are it is. The

1262
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: game does continue to evolve away from you know, like

1263
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: the kickoffs as we knew him when we were growing up.

1264
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: It's going to be completely different. And now I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you as this season wound down, As the

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Speaker 1: season's over, the super Bowl was a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: we've got you know, we started to point towards the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up, and you know, the topic of the

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Speaker 1: draft has turned out to be another quarterback, Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: He says he's fully going to commit to the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. He doesn't want to play baseball. And here's

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Speaker 1: a guy who's whatever height he is, five ten, five

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Speaker 1: nine five or eleven, whatever it is, he's gonna come

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Speaker 1: in and probably be a first round quarterback. Do you

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Speaker 1: what do you think about a guy, you know passing

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: on the Major league baseball, And what do you think

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01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray and the decisions he's made and the

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Speaker 1: ones he's got ahead of him. Yeah, So, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it was a huge decision for him to walk away

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Speaker 1: from baseball being the ninth overball pick to the Oakland Age.

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Speaker 1: But when I think about just from an initial thought process,

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Speaker 1: there was no guarantee that he would make it to

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Speaker 1: the majors. And the style of life that you live

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: doing SENA A, Triple A and double A ball, I

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: mean it's rough. You're you're taking the Greyhound bus to

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Speaker 1: different games and stuff like that. You're sleeping in hotels

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Speaker 1: that aren't you know, the five stars, which which you're

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Speaker 1: typically accustomed to seeing in the NFL or in the

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Speaker 1: major leagues. So all of that plays into it. And

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Speaker 1: it was only going to be four point three three

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, whereas in football, depending on how how

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Speaker 1: he goes in the drive, if he's a top fifteen,

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Speaker 1: top teen pick, he's looking anywhere between fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars fully guaranteed. Of the first round pick. He's

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Speaker 1: also gonna go and become the star of that organization

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Speaker 1: or the base of that organization right away and get

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Speaker 1: all the goods and glammar that covers with that. And

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Speaker 1: that's just solely based off of Draft Office draft selection. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you think about the ceiling we've seen when you

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01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: can do a football Heisman Trophy one extremely electric with

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Speaker 1: the ball and also the rules professionally are geared towards

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So he does have a more favorable situation

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01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: with football was in baseball. Like I said, it's a

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: ton of first rounds that never make it to the

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Speaker 1: majors in baseball now, I mean that's a common name.

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01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: You're not only competing with Americans, you're competing with people

1307
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: from other countries as well, So it's a larger talent pool.

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: But obviously, when you think about longevity and money, standpoint, hey,

1309
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: health wise, football, you're gonna get beat up without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent injury rate is gonna happen Baseball. Those

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: guys play to late thirties, forty years old. Football, you

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Speaker 1: have to be a great player to get one hundred

1313
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Speaker 1: million dollars contract, and it's not fully guaranteed. Baseball, be

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01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: a great player you getting two hundred three hundred million

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: dollars deals fully guarantee. So, I mean, there's just a

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Speaker 1: lot me you think about it, But if his heart

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: is truly into football, then I understand him making up

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Speaker 1: that decision because at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: got to do it makes you happy. With former Bills

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Speaker 1: lying back er Arthur multi Arthur, this past September, the

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01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Bills played a regular season game up in Minnesota, and

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: we were kind of reminiscing back then the last time

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01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: the Bills played in Minnesota was a memorable game for

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01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: you when you single handedly ended Brett Fires a consecutive

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01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: game streak, and the same don't cross the moats sort

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Speaker 1: of came out of that game and that hit right absolutely, man,

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Speaker 1: I would never forget that day. Man, that was an

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01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: awesome day. The game after that hit didn't go if

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have life, but still, I mean, it was

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: an awesome experience, man, And Alto is really what counterputing

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Speaker 1: my career and starting me out as far as becoming

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: a name that you wouldn't know about and things like that.

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, I definitely have fun, really fun memories

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah, do people still say don't cross

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: the moats to you? There's indeed it's something that I

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01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: was in want to actually you know, carry over it

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01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: throughout my playing career when I transitioned to Pittsburgh as well.

1338
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm always on social media. I'm still you know, using

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: as like a hashtag just to keep people involved in

1340
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: what I'm doing things like that, and I feel like

1341
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: just the reception you know, through Bills Scheelings in the

1342
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: Stilds things has always been awesome with it. Don't cross

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: the mode. So yeah, it's been really good, great stuff, Arthur.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Arthur. Good luck to you. No matter what

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: you wind up doing, I know we'll stay in touch,

1346
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: and we thank you for spending a few minutes with

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Speaker 1: us here today. Thanks. Hey, no Ferre guy, it's good

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Speaker 1: catching up with Arthur. Multifarmer Bills linebacker. Four seasons here,

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: four seasons with the Steelers, moving into the next phase

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: of his career. As he does a little radio Steelers

1351
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Arthur joined us on the Subway Fresh Take

1352
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: hutline presented by Subway Restaurants, probably locally owned and operating.

1353
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Interesting take from a former Antonio Brown teammate when he

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01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: said all this being said, he was a good teammate.

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: We liked having one of us one of his favorite teammates.

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: What do you make of a listen, I think yeah,

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: and he and even he is a former teammate and

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01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: a guy who's wired into that locker room. Even nobody

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: knows why Antonio Brown did what he did. But the

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: simple fact of the matter is, I think it comes

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: down to the Antonio Brown made a decision that he

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01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: was going to get out of Pittsburgh, and he saw

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01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: his way clear to do that doing what he's done,

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: and the last you know, walking away from the week

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Speaker 1: seventeen and I'm and having said that, and an author

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01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: motes said it as well, he really he thinks as

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Speaker 1: we do. Antonio Brown really hurt his trade status and

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Speaker 1: his value on the trade market by being a guy

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Speaker 1: who is willing to make a decision of that type

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Speaker 1: and follow through with it, no matter what the consequences are,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the backlash is, no matter what it

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Speaker 1: makes him look like, He's going to do what he

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: wants to do. So every team that trades for him

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: is gonna have to ask himselves what happens when he

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Speaker 1: makes that decision for us and decides to do that,

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: because that's all it's gonna take. And they're they're a

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Speaker 1: one decision from a DIVA type player away from being

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01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: out all the assets that they traded for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Antonio around the topic of our Twitter poll today. It's

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01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. We've had good response. More responses

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: coming up. Should the Bills trade for wide receiver Antonio Brown?

1382
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: You can vote on our Twitter poll, you can tweet

1383
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: in a response, you can give us a ring talk

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01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: about it at eight oh three h five fifty or

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01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty on the pole. With more than seventeen hundred responses

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Speaker 1: so far, should the Bills trade for wide receiver Antonio Brown?

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: Forty three percent say nope, he's bad for the locker room.

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01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: Thirty three percent say yes, but make sure you don't

1390
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: give up a first round draft pick for him. Not

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: worth it, fourteen percent say yes, trade for him whatever

1392
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: it takes, and ten percent say no, you won't be

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: effective here. So if you break it down as you

1394
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: did earlier, see fifty three percent of our respondents to

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01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll say no, don't trade for him? And

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Speaker 1: what Forty seven percent say yes. That's pretty close, really close.

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: It's outstanding Twitter poll. It shows no I mean it

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01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: and I can I get it. I mean, and it's

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: interesting too. It's kind of a belker. Listen, say yes

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: at all costs, and there's about the same percentage to

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: say no, don't do it at all. He's not going

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: to be effective. Um. Now, this is a guy that's

1403
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: already been playing for a big, big number. I mean,

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: he's already making a lot of money. And when he

1405
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: was playing for the Steelers, he was playing well. I mean,

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01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: he's not a guy. And we heard his former teammate

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01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: Arthur Most said, listen, and when he's on the field,

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: when he's at practice, when he's doing what he's supposed

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01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: to do, he always brings a top elite effort. He

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: always plays hard, he's always ready to play, He practices hard,

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Speaker 1: he prepares to play well. So there's all those things

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Speaker 1: in his corner, no question, And he got to think,

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Speaker 1: at least for the first year you get him, that

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: it would be that here or there or wherever it's

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna be, his next team is gonna get a full

1416
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: effort from him. The question is what happens when you

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: get a full effort from him and it doesn't go

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01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: as well as he had hoped. You know what if

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: it if it comes out and he's only getting one

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: or two catches a game, he doesn't have those eight

1421
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: catch for one hundred and seventy five yard games with you,

1422
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: is he gonna shut it down? Because this is as

1423
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: he's done it before, exactly, because the NFL is all

1424
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: about you know, it's hard to be good and you

1425
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: need help to be good. He's gotten a lot of

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: help in Pittsburgh. He had Levion Bell, he had Ben Roethlisberger,

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: he had Juju Smith Schuster, he had Mortavious Bryant, he

1428
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: had a best offensive line in the NFL. He had

1429
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff going for him as a wide out

1430
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: with a quarterback that could really sling it going for him.

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: What happens when he goes to a team and Arthur

1432
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Moates brought it up our guests a minute ago. What

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: happens when all that none of that's there or some

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: of it's not there, and it doesn't go as well

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: as it did in Pittsburgh? Is he gonna shut it down?

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big, big question, and it's a

1437
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: big risk for a team who's gonna have to invest

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01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: something into getting him. We thank Arthur Morts for joining

1439
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline. I'm gonna take

1440
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: a break. The other big story of the day, the

1441
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens shipped off their quarterback Joe Flacco, who won

1442
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. For him was the Super Bowl EP.

1443
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: He's now headed to the Denver Broncos. We're gonna talk

1444
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: with Andy Lindell, who was a KOA radio host in

1445
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: Denver sideline reporter on the Denver Broncos radio network. He'll

1446
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: join us next to discuss that trade. Come on back

1447
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, Steve Tasker, John Murphy,

1448
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, powering through the show.

1449
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: See where halfway through? How do you feel you got enough? Correct?

1450
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: I got enough for a strong, strong middle of the

1451
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: show before I kick it to the finish, midway point

1452
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 1: of the show, the halftime here at the show halftime.

1453
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: That's only the half of it. That's what Van used

1454
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: to say all the time. That's only the half of it, Murphy,

1455
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: that is only half of the show. We got another

1456
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: half to come, an hour and a half to go,

1457
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: and some good guests coming up. Jenny Wrent Toss from NFL.

1458
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry from MMQB dot si Com will join us

1459
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: coming up next hour, talk about this trade, the Ravens

1460
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: send Joe Flacco to the Denver Broncos. What's going on

1461
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: and this deal in Denver on the line with us,

1462
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: the host of Prime Time Sports on eight fifty KOA

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: radio in Denver, Broncos pregame show host Happy to have

1464
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: Andy Lindell on the line with us. Andy, John Murphy

1465
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker in Buffalo, Thank you for joining us.

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Are you doing it? We're doing okay? Great?

1467
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: Scratching our heads about this trade? Is this an upgrade

1468
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback for the Broncos? Well, you know what, for

1469
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: the fans, they're reacting like it isn't The town is

1470
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: not exactly accepting this. Well, I do a show that's

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: all Broncos all the time, and so we got a

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: media reaction Broncos country, and he was pretty interesting to

1473
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: hear how little they cared for the trade. Frankly, overall,

1474
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: I'd say seventy five percent of the texts are negative

1475
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: that we were receiving. So you know, look, I think

1476
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: it probably is. Now. You're gonna have to keep Joe healthy.

1477
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to keep the pocket clean, and you're

1478
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: gonna have to do a better job of protecting, you know,

1479
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback, which has been an issue frankly since even

1480
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: prepaid manning days. So there's still some work to be done.

1481
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: But I do think I think things got a little

1482
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: bit much for Case last year. And I'll tell you

1483
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: this right now, I'm not positive they don't let Case go,

1484
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: as it was explained to us from me and Rapp

1485
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: Record our NFL in center, and he does work on

1486
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: NFL network. He basically said at this point, the Broncos

1487
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: don't owe Joe and any guaranteed money, so Flacco maybe

1488
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: on a one year proved deal because they could just

1489
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: cut him after this year or not have to owe

1490
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: him anything. So I think it's a pretty good situation.

1491
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: And I just think the Broncos are so helping on

1492
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: fixing QB. I could see him draft to one. I

1493
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: could sea keeping Case and making all three just compete

1494
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: for the job. Yeah, I agree with you. I do

1495
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: think Elway, and for as much criticism around football circles

1496
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: as he gets for you know, having so many different

1497
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: quarterback moves in his tenure, theres with Broncos, he did

1498
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: win a World championship after bringing in Peyton Manning. The

1499
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: guy played the position and he pulls the trigger on

1500
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback more than any GM around the NFL. And

1501
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's a good thing or bad thing.

1502
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: It's bad because it's hard to find the right guy,

1503
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: but it's also good is you never know when the

1504
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: right guy might just trickle down to you. And I

1505
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: think going out and getting Joe Flacco. I don't know

1506
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: if you've seen him play very much. Listen, he throws

1507
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: it really well. Hey, Andy, before you answer that, can

1508
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: you step in and mediate a dispute between my partner

1509
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: and I sure? I think it's a bad thing. Elway

1510
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: has swung and missed a couple of times on quarterbacks

1511
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: now case Keenan brock Oswalder, Paxton Lynch. How is that

1512
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: a good thing? Yeah, he's still trying, so what you

1513
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: know he's up there swinging and missing. Yeah, I mean,

1514
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: you got to keep firing until you hit the target,

1515
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: don't you. It's not great as far as the one

1516
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: that really set him back is Paxton Lynch. I mean,

1517
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: that's where your big problem comes in. And it's kind

1518
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: of tied to the hip of brock Oswiler, to be

1519
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: honest with you, because you know the reason why I

1520
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: think they ended up having to draft the Packston Lynch,

1521
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: was they thought they were going to get a deal

1522
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 1: done with Tosswiler. I think they were maybe more confident

1523
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: than you should have been, because you remember they drafted

1524
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: Paxton shortly after losing brock Osweader to Houston, and I

1525
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: just wonder how much how in depth did they get

1526
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: in the scouting process coming off the Super Bowl? Were

1527
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 1: about the MVP Cannon and you know, the MVP contract

1528
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: of von Miller, the franchise taxon area. They had all

1529
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: that stuff going on. You go ahead, your draft Packson Lynch.

1530
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: You I will say this, Paxton physically checked the boxes.

1531
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: The problem was, as we all came to learn, and

1532
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: we learned it pretty quickly, and maybe John should have

1533
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: accepted a year sooner than he did. Paxton didn't study,

1534
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: Paxton didn't love football. Paxon and from what I understand,

1535
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: was maybe a little bit more worried about playing video

1536
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: games and getting in his playbooks and working on his

1537
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: iPad and all that kind of stuff. So that's why

1538
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: that blew up in their face. But you guys, I

1539
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: don't have to tell you, guys, anybody that's been drafting

1540
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: as high as aren't your franchise has that been in

1541
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: the last few years. Until you figure it out, you're

1542
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: just kind of stuck, right If you got to keep

1543
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: taking swings until you figure it out, and when you

1544
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: miss on a first round quarterback, it kills you. It

1545
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: kills you. You have to get the draft right. John

1546
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: always done it in other areas, But I think even

1547
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: with this Flacco move, he's still got to find a

1548
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: way to get the draft right and find a young guy.

1549
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Or we'll see what happens when his contract comes up

1550
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: in three years. Maybe he There could be some interesting

1551
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: times ahead for John if this sudn't get worked out. Yeah.

1552
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: One of the things I was going to ask about

1553
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: this quarterback search that the dinner le Broncos are continuing

1554
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: with this trade for Joe Flacco. What are some of

1555
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: the criticisms of John Elway and the guys that he

1556
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: has not taken advantage of. For instance, I mean, we

1557
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: all look at Patrick Mahomes going number ten overall, A

1558
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: lot of teams passed him up. The Bills traded the

1559
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: pick to Kansas City. I mean there's there's plenty of

1560
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: blame to go around. But guys like that and maybe

1561
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: like a Teddy Bridgewater who was a free agent last

1562
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: year may be available again this year. All these guys

1563
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: that have come up, like Kirk Cousins, he didn't trade

1564
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: for him. You know what are some of the you

1565
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: know the things that Elway's getting criticized for that he

1566
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of. What quarterbacks are they looking at?

1567
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: Say why didn't you get him? Why didn't you get

1568
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: that guy? Why didn't you get this guy? Because you

1569
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: know last year Case Keenan was a pretty hot commodity. Well,

1570
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: I would say this, he's not like when you bring

1571
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: up Patrick Mahomes and Broncos at the twentieth pick that year,

1572
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: and they ended up taking him care polls, so they

1573
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: never had a chance to really take him. They weren't

1574
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: in the top ten in drafts for the last few

1575
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,879
Speaker 1: years until finally the bottom came out in twenty seventeen

1576
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: and they ended up having that number five picks. So

1577
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: as far as hot secting names, it's not so much

1578
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: that he hasn't passed that he's passed on those guys. Now,

1579
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: you know what, Dak Prescott. I think anybody that passed

1580
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott and the Broncos trade up. They supposedly

1581
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: were in some you know, competition with the Cowboys to

1582
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: get Packson Winch. They trade up, they get Paxton Lynch,

1583
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: and they passed on a Dak Prescott. And what is

1584
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: interesting about that is I've heard from some that Gary

1585
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: Kubiak actually liked Dak Prescott better than he maybe liked

1586
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch. So there's been some shot about that. Now

1587
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, as I ultimately been confirmed, it hasn't. But

1588
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: these are the little things to talk about. You know

1589
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 1: what's funny what he gets criticized more for is his

1590
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: offensive lines. His offensive lines, if you look at it,

1591
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: have actually been the bigger problem longer than even some

1592
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks, which may be hard to believe, but

1593
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean you go back to twenty thirteen and the

1594
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: line that went to the Super Bowl. Well, at that point,

1595
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: you're down Ryan Clady and he has a pretty bad

1596
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: foot injury and you're not expecting him to come back.

1597
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: You got Chris Clark playing tackle. If you just go

1598
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: and look at our roster and you were to just

1599
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: check through the last five or six years, at the

1600
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 1: number of offensive linemen that have been shuffled in and

1601
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 1: out of there, the ones and even a couple of

1602
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: the ones that they could have hit on. And at

1603
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Tyson Brilo, who's doing all right in Atlanta, and it's

1604
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 1: funny because he's gonna be in the you know, Tyson

1605
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Brilo was perfect for his own sea. That's going back

1606
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: to hunter new offensive corni Richard Fellow. And you look

1607
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: at a Michael Scofield who's now doing a decent job

1608
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 1: for the San Diego Chargers, and he cut Russell Locoon

1609
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: after just one season, who again is now helping the

1610
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: Chargers at least make the playoffs and this year get

1611
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: to the divisional round. Those are more of the things

1612
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: that he's getting criticized for the quarterbacks. It's tough he

1613
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: gets tammered for Paxston Lynch, but honestly, you know, look,

1614
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: he wasn't the one that gave the eighteen million dollars

1615
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: contract to Houston. He picked up rock Oswiler after he

1616
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: came back for half a million bucks. And the reason

1617
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: why they lost Brock was they weren't willing to go

1618
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: any higher. So really it's more what's the funneling as

1619
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: you said, for a guy to play the quarterback position

1620
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 1: is how tough it's been to put a defense, decent

1621
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: offensive line together on the line with Andy Lindahl, he

1622
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: is host of Primetime Sports on eight fifty KLA radio

1623
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: in Denver. You've mentioned I think Andy, then on your

1624
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: show today, what did you say seventy seventy of the

1625
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: public opinion seemed to be against this trade for Joe Flacco.

1626
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: How do you account for that? What do you make

1627
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: of that? And this is a it's a question about

1628
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: perception too, By the way, I'm asking about the fans

1629
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: perception here. They just think he's broken, he's bad, he's whatever.

1630
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: That's what I keep hearing. There's a lot of injury

1631
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: concerns out there, and you know what, that's absolutely fair.

1632
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: The guys had a hip injury, a back injury. Frankly,

1633
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: it was the injury that cost him his job against

1634
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller or Lamar Jackson, that allowed Lamar Jackson to

1635
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: show us ready to take over the team, I guess

1636
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: last year. So I get why the fans have some

1637
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: concerns there, but they want a young quarterback. They want

1638
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: their Patrick Mahomes. He now Elway and the Chargers and

1639
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: John Gruten and the Raiders. Everyone now gets to live

1640
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: in the same conditions. John Elway caused the division for

1641
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: years where the other you know, the rest of your

1642
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: division sees this great young quarterback in Mahomes and we

1643
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: all want one, right and so now John, we've got

1644
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: to find one. Now that that's where a lot of

1645
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: this comes from. And the fans wanted someone drafted, which

1646
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, the fans I kind of laugh at it.

1647
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna take a flyer on Drew Locke

1648
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: at ten. You're gonna take a flyer on Daniel Jones

1649
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: at ten. You know I would be interested in the

1650
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, but you can't tell me he's a can't

1651
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: miss prospect. I don't know what to do about Kyler

1652
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: Murray because as much as I love the kids football skills, dude,

1653
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 1: you're one eighty five. You know. I've stood on the sidelines.

1654
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: I've seen the hits of guys like Steve Basker, you've taken.

1655
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm standing next to former tight end Jeff Puts here.

1656
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: It's a mean game. I refuse to believe that you're

1657
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna survive at one eighty five and I don't know

1658
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: how much more weight you can put on that frame

1659
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: of yours. So Kyler Murray is a big mystery to me,

1660
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: and I would want to risk my number to tick there.

1661
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: You know. So the fans want a young qv but

1662
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: to me, what Joe Flacco does if nothing else for

1663
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: the Broncos And I'll give you a little bit of

1664
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: a country company slam, but I believe this, if nothing else,

1665
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: you don't have to force a back quarterback decision at

1666
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: ten that we've seen. So, I mean, look at the Browns.

1667
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: How many did they force? It were bad before they

1668
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 1: finally hit on Baker Mayfield. Now they've got something to

1669
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: be excited about. If Joe Flacco stays healthy, likely you

1670
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: at least compete in this division. And I'll tell you this,

1671
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel more comfortab with Joe Flacco trying to

1672
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: take on Patrick Mahomes when they meet for the first

1673
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: time next year. And I would have after watching case,

1674
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: especially when you go to Arrowheads. So yeah, if we're

1675
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: a rat, I'm sorry to interrupt gate a question about

1676
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: a young quarterback who was there not a highly drafted quarterback,

1677
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: but Chad Kelly, you see out of the picture for good. Now,

1678
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: is there anything left for him in Denver? Do you

1679
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: think no, there isn't bell as it's I don't want

1680
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: to get into all of it, you know, And I'll

1681
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: just say there's some issues that still needs to be

1682
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: worked out off the field there. The Halloween incident was

1683
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: not a good one. Yeah, Pop at a party, he

1684
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: walked into some he walked into a house, gentleman. Now

1685
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, look, you're in the Midwest here. There's a

1686
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: lot of folks in own firearms. I'll just be honest

1687
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: about it. There's many of us. I feel Chad Kelly

1688
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: is very lucky. He was not shot for entering a

1689
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: residence for what he did in Halloween, so he's got

1690
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: some stuff he's got to clean up. I think John

1691
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: was trying to help him. Unfortunately, I take against it.

1692
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: In your Halloween kind of showed everybody that were still

1693
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: how to worry this together. So unfortunately, I just don't

1694
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: be kilty. Back in the conversation in Denver, I wish

1695
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: him luck because, you know what, he seemed like a

1696
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: nice enough kid. A lot of us were intrigued by

1697
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: what he showed him a preseason. I know there's an

1698
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: attachment to buffalo out there. But there's just got to

1699
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: be some stuff that gets worked out. I'm sorry here. Yeah,

1700
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I want to ask you

1701
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: about is if whoever, whether Joe Flacco or as you say,

1702
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, if they keep Case Keen him

1703
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: on the roster. Let these guys battle it out. Whatever happens.

1704
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is going to be one of the guys

1705
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: they may be throwing too. He's the word is that

1706
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: he's ahead of schedule after a torn achilles? Can he

1707
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: bounce back from an injury that that nature? I believe

1708
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: he can bounce back. Now here's the question that I

1709
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: can't answer. How affective Keen? Do you know what I mean?

1710
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,520
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing about Emmanuel. Emmanuel was the explosion

1711
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: guy last year. Now, to be honest about it, guys,

1712
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: I really like Emmanuel, but but he doesn't get to

1713
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas doesn't get enough credit from the double teams

1714
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: he was eating up that allowed Emmanuel to be the

1715
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: more explosive guy. Once Marius Thomas left. And I'll just

1716
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: calling DT because that's what we know him as around town.

1717
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: He was handling the double teams and all of a

1718
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: Suddenmmanuel got those and that was one little thing that

1719
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: kind of slowed down the Broncos offense. It was just

1720
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: performing moderately in best anyway. You know, then you lose

1721
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 1: the Philip Lindsay and everything just went right in the toilet.

1722
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: But I think Emmanuel can come back. But can he

1723
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: still be as fast as he was? Because I will

1724
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: tell you this, and training camp last year one of

1725
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: the great mysteries that I can't figure out, and I

1726
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: just have to go back and blame a little bit

1727
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive line and training camp last year. The

1728
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: case Keenum was hitting guys dead and strive like we

1729
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 1: hadn't seen and Emmanuel Shame Sanders was doing great speed

1730
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: and ability. We thought he was going to be just

1731
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: a yards after the catch monster because of the pinpoint accuracy.

1732
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: They were executing rounds that, especially the ones over the middle.

1733
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: And then it got to the regular season, the case

1734
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: was offer he wasn't looking or you know again, I've

1735
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: seen it too many times at the offensive line. These

1736
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get hit, they don't want to take anymore. It's

1737
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: what happened to Trevor Simeon. Because frankly, I don't think

1738
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 1: Case was much more of an upgrade over Trevor simeon

1739
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: Um and now fans are wondering, is Joe going to

1740
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: be much more of an upgrade over the case, But

1741
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: it starts at the time. They've got to get a

1742
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: line that could keep a clean middle of the pocket.

1743
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: If they can do that, I mean, if they can

1744
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: get they probably need an upgraded tackle because they can't

1745
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: have Garrett Bowles holding every five seconds either, which is

1746
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: what the team happened on more often than not on

1747
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: the players last year. But if they can get someone

1748
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: that can least give Flacco and middle to step into.

1749
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: I do remember the big arm I was on the field.

1750
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: I did post game interviews with the guys after that

1751
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore loss where I was sure Heemore was going to

1752
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: pick the ball off when he broke and somehow it

1753
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: floated over his head and Denver found a way to

1754
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: lose their playoff game in twenty twelve year in under Yeah,

1755
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: so Coyham, Yeah yeah, I think. Hey, nobody came up

1756
01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: where they didn't went to the Ravens. Yeah yeah, Hey,

1757
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: one more question for you, and again I'm sorry to

1758
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: interrupt you. Um. A lot of folks in Buffaloes they

1759
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,879
Speaker 1: look at free agency starting next month. Look at Matt Pettis,

1760
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: the center for the Broncos. Is a possible fit here

1761
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. The Broncos gonna try to lock him down

1762
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: before he gets loose in a month, or what do

1763
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: you think? I don't know? You know, you fellows know again,

1764
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: you know how the NFL works. They wanted to, but

1765
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: they also want to hold his injury history against them,

1766
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: and they want to be able to make him, you know,

1767
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: trying to get him on the cheap um. I've been

1768
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: told he can make as much as ten million dollars.

1769
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: I can say this that through your disadvantage. One of

1770
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: my thirite players that have covered. He's a really good guy.

1771
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: He gets him and the rump, the old offensive line

1772
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: when it every now and again, but always the guy

1773
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: that would top and explain things to me. Even if

1774
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: he didn't want to be on the record, he'd still

1775
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: give you the courtesy of just trying to at least

1776
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: give you a spirited response to your questions so you

1777
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: at least understand better what was going on. He would

1778
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: ignore you. He's an absolute warrior of a player. Back

1779
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: at spleen to you when they won the super Bowl.

1780
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: The guy two bad hips and we all do we

1781
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: knew then did the season ended he was going to

1782
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: get double surgery, which is exactly what ended up happening.

1783
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: He plays your injury. He's a strong guy, he's good

1784
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: for the locker room, he's a good leader, and he's

1785
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: going to be very high in the man. And I

1786
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: just don't know if ultimately the Broncos should keep him.

1787
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, all don't know if ultimately they will.

1788
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm really interested in him after hearing your description. Yeah,

1789
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I would tell you'd be a hell of a sign

1790
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: and trust me and be good for Josh Allen. I

1791
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: can promise you that i'd be good. Hey, Andy, thank

1792
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: you I promise I won't interrupt you anymore today. Thanks

1793
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: for being on the air of the City. By the way,

1794
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: markdown wanted me to tell you guys a little Mark said, Hey, Yeah, thanks.

1795
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Andy Lindahl is the host of Primetime Sports on eight

1796
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: fifty KOA radio in Denver. Talking to us about the

1797
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: trade for Joe Flacco. Interesting, he said, mostly negative reaction

1798
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: among Broncos fans about the addition to Flacco. What do

1799
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: you think, listen, I no question, he's right that you

1800
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: got to have an offensive line in front of Joe

1801
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: Flacco who can protect like an NFL offensive line. You

1802
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: can give him two and a half to three seconds

1803
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: of time to throw the foot ball. If you do that,

1804
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco will win an MVP in the Super Bowl.

1805
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how good he has been, right so,

1806
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: but he has because he hasn't had that offensive line

1807
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: in front of him. Now, one year he had a

1808
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: back injury. Now then he had a knee injury. You know,

1809
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: it's it's something the guy doesn't run well, so he's

1810
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: gonna get hit if you don't protect him. And that's

1811
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: been the issue the last couple of years. That's why

1812
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson got on the field this year at all.

1813
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: More in the Flacco trade. More on our topic of

1814
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: the day, Antonio Brown. Does he fit here to the Bills.

1815
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: Make a move for him. Give us a call. We're

1816
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: coming back with more. One Bill's Live presented by Kalid

1817
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 1: to Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1818
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker Here

1819
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: until two o'clock. Jenny brent Has from MMQB Sports Illustrated

1820
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: dot COM's going to join us coming up at two o'clock. Hey,

1821
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: asking you all day. Should the Bills make a move

1822
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: for Joe Flacco. Got a pretty interesting Twitter poll and

1823
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: some no not Joe Flacco. Oh, Antonio Brown. Jonio Brown,

1824
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: those are the two names that I've just screwed him up. Joe. Well,

1825
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: that Joe Flacco thing got dropped on our laps like

1826
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before we came on the air, and it

1827
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Manna, it was exactly what

1828
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: we needed. Let's go to Bill and Brockport with a

1829
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 1: thought on the Steelers in Antonio Brown. Bill from Brockport,

1830
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, I guess. So my take on from

1831
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: what I've heard is that, uh, I don't put the

1832
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: onus on on Brown so much as I heard that

1833
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: Raethlisberger can be a real pain in the neck. He's

1834
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: got the talk show in Pittsburgh, and I guess he's

1835
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: very condescending and obnoxious, and of course everybody knows he's

1836
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: a he's a woman, you know, a female abuser. He's

1837
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: been you know, that's pretty well known. So I think

1838
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: that actually I give credit to Brown because you know,

1839
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: like Mots was saying, he initially said he'd come out

1840
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: with everything and any kind of backstuffed little bit and

1841
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I don't know if some things

1842
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: are better left un said. You give him credit for

1843
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: bailing on the end of the season, Well, I consider

1844
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: that as being, you know, not throwing Lappisburger under the bus.

1845
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: He could have done that. You could have played, could

1846
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: have played. You could have kept his mouth shut and

1847
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: played too, and he did. Yeah, if he's gonna keep

1848
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: his mouth shut anyway, you may as well play and

1849
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut. And then you don't make yourself

1850
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a pariah by coming off as

1851
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: being a guy who just bailed on the team, no

1852
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: matter what I mean. If you're gonna justify what Antonio

1853
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Brown did because another player is a jerk, well, where's

1854
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: all the other players on the roster that are telling

1855
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: this other guy that he's a jerk? It's you got

1856
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: one guy who's saying it. Now. May maybe those guys

1857
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: all the other guys on the team think it but

1858
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: don't say it, or they're not they're willing to live

1859
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: with it. And Antonio Brown has reached his limit for

1860
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: whatever reason. Why is Antonio Brown the guy that reached

1861
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: his limit, and nobody else did, you know, so you

1862
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: can say what you want about Ben. And I've heard

1863
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: that stuff too, And we all know Ben Roethlisberger early

1864
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: in his career had all kinds of struggles. Well, you

1865
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: know what, I haven't heard too much from him for

1866
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: a decade. So I don't know whether you can go

1867
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: back and now and kick all that stuff up in

1868
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: his face and say, hey, you're you know, you're not

1869
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: the guy you think you are or whatever you're Why

1870
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: is it anty Antonio Brown that's saying that. Why isn't

1871
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: it everybody else? And you know, why does Antonio Brown

1872
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: get a free pass to you know, make a stand

1873
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: of the nature that he did. I don't have a

1874
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: problem with him standing up to Ben in the locker

1875
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: room or off the in private, and I don't have

1876
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: a problem with him going to the front office and saying, listen,

1877
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm out of here because of Ben, but you better

1878
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: trade me right now. But you don't do it publicly

1879
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: in the manner in which he did. That's a bad,

1880
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: bad move. And so yeah, all that stuff you say

1881
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: may be true, but that still doesn't mean Antonio Brown

1882
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 1: handled it well. And she'd get credit for it. Instead

1883
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: of blame because it was a bad thing he did.

1884
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill. We got a break here. We got

1885
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 1: Jenny Frentius from mmqb SI dot com coming up. Actually

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about Kareem Hunt, of course, more

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Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown and would like to hear from you

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Speaker 1: as well. Well. I'm back our three coming up One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Bills Radio Network story.

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Speaker 1: Got the update from One Bill's Driving. There's a trade

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Speaker 1: in the NFL today, Believe it or not. The Baltimore

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01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: Ravens have an agreement in principle to trade former Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl MVP Joe Flacco, the quarterback, to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: The trade cannot be officially processed until the new league

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Speaker 1: year begins a month from today, March thirteenth. When the

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Speaker 1: deal is completed, it is said to be for a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Fourth round pick goes from Denver to

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Speaker 1: Baltimore for Joe Flacco, the first trade Domino. As far

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Speaker 1: as quarterbacks to fall the soft season, other quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: play would seem to be Nick Foles, Ryan Tannehill, Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles may be expecting to change teams, but Joe

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01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: Flacco is now at Denver Bronco. The Bills have offensive

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01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: lineman Spencer Long under contract now signed a three year

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Speaker 1: contract yesterday. Spencer Long, former third round pick of Washington,

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Speaker 1: scheduled to being on Our show tomorrow. Deadline for her

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Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown deal maybe a trade is said to

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Speaker 1: be Mark seventeenth. That's what NFL dot Com says. Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Network says that the likely deadline for

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01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: the Steelers potentially trading Brown is March seventeenth, because that's

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Speaker 1: when a two and a half million dollar roster bonus

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Speaker 1: takes effect for the Steelers in Antonio Brown. Cliff Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: who said back in October that he really likes the

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Speaker 1: quarterback Kyler Murray, now says he's sticking with Johns. Rosen Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Arizona Cardinal, says our

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Speaker 1: feelings toward Johns have not waned or changed or anything.

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Speaker 1: Murray announced Monday's gonna go with football rather than baseball,

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Speaker 1: and the Oakland Raiders have had their first talks about

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Speaker 1: returning for one final season in Oakland Raiders, or rather,

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Speaker 1: Coliseum Executive director Scott mckibbon said he met with the

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Speaker 1: Raiders president last week about a lease or a one

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Speaker 1: year deal for twenty nineteen. They're talking about a seven

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Speaker 1: and a half million dollars lease for twenty nineteen. Sabers

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Speaker 1: on the ice for practice tomorrow. They finish off their

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Speaker 1: seven game homestand with a game against the New York

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Speaker 1: Rangers that's coming up on Friday Night. Last night, Sabers

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Speaker 1: beat the Islanders three one at key Bank Center, goals

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Speaker 1: from Jeff Skinner, Jason Palmonville and Johann Larson, and Saint

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Speaker 1: Bonaventure with a dominant seventy six fifty one winnever Saint

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Speaker 1: Joe's last night Bondi's ten and fourteen. Overall, they go

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Speaker 1: to six and five in eight ten play. That's the

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Speaker 1: update from One Bill Drive, John Murphy's team tasker here

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Speaker 1: until three o'clock. Joined on the Subway first day kline

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Speaker 1: by one of our favorite guests. She is senior writer

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Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrated, contributor to MMQB dot SI dot com,

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Speaker 1: former Jets and Giants beat reporter. Happy to have Jenny

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Speaker 1: Vrentass on the line. With us. Hello, Jenny, John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I'm great. How are you guys doing. We're good. You're

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01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: fully recovered from the grind to the Super Bowl, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine by now, right, Yeah, yeah, it's always a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you know, a little good to take some

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Speaker 1: downtime after the season, right exactly. Jenny, we got to

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Speaker 1: ask you, I mean, were you surprised at all that

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Speaker 1: that Kareem Hunt was signed this early in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by the timeline, absolutely. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: only been ten weeks essentially since the video of the

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Speaker 1: altercation in which he you know, shoved and then kicked

1949
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Speaker 1: a woman in the hallway of a residence at Cleveland

1950
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: was made public by TMZ and that's when, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs released him for not being truthful to the

1952
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Speaker 1: team about what had happened at night, and he admitted,

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Speaker 1: you know, in his ESPN interview that he hadn't yet

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01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: begun counseling at that point. So, you know, I don't

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: believe that there should be zero tolerance. I think experts

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01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: say that that generally makes situations worse, and that part

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Speaker 1: of rehabilitation passed back. So I'm not saying that people

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01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a second chance, but I do think you

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01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: should have to earn the second chance, and that there's

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Speaker 1: kind of a wide spectrum between zero tolerance and signing

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Speaker 1: someone just ten weeks later. And you know, I think

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01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: he sort of sought out. Reflected in John Dorsey's press conference,

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01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of specific examples or reasoning

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Speaker 1: to explain why Hunt had earned a second chance. And

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01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: I think it would be hard at this point to

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01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 1: have any conviction to believe that someone who was involved

1967
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: in not just one, but you know three alleged altercations

1968
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: last year, you know, one which I just described earlier,

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01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: and then too she was alleged to have punched a man.

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01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: So obviously there's you know, multiple incidents, and so I

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01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,520
Speaker 1: think to sign someone and to give him an opportunity,

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01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I think you'd want to make sure that that person

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01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: has already gone through the steps, rather than signing him

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01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: and hoping that that happened. How much responsibility does the

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Speaker 1: league have towards both sides of this equation, both the

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Speaker 1: victims of the incident and also to a guy like

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. Who's the employee and the really the connection

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01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: the league has to the whole thing. What's the league's

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01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: responsibility in that? Do you think in best case scenario? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just such a hard topic to have

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Speaker 1: the right answer for, right, you know, And I think

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01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: we see that the legal system doesn't always have the

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01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: right answers, and so certainly expecting that a sports league

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01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: would have the right answers is probably just never going

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01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,799
Speaker 1: to happen. And so I think that's where we're always

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01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: going to struggle when we talk about situations like this

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Speaker 1: or other violation with the personal conduct policy. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's the right amount of time for a suspension or

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01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 1: the right amount of time to wait to sign someone?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that there is a great answer there,

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01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: but I do think ten weeks feels too short. And also,

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Speaker 1: you know he's on the commission he will be on

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Speaker 1: the commissioner's example list now and the league investigation Dorothy

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01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: said they expect to wrap up in a few weeks now.

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Speaker 1: We didn't explain why they signed him now before that's

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01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: wrapped up, but it would certainly see to indicate that

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01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 1: they kind of wanted to get a jump on it

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Speaker 1: and make sure that no one else signed him. I

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Speaker 1: think maybe a minimum bar would just sort of to

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01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: wait for the investigation to play out and see what

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01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 1: the results are there, and also to give you know,

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01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: him more time to go through counseling and really demonstrate

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01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: that his behavior has changed. I think one point that

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01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Dorsey could have made that he didn't. He could have

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01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,839
Speaker 1: suggested that being part of a team and the structure

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01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 1: and the resources might help him on his path to

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: changing his behavior, but they didn't seem that they were

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Speaker 1: certain of exactly how much they would help. That wasn't

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01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: something that was clearly laid out. So they said they

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01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: have a plan, but there was no clear indication of

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Speaker 1: how involved the team would be and if it might

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01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 1: be beneficial for him to be part of a team

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Speaker 1: through this process. So I think we're always just going

2014
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: to struggle here and asking a sports league and a

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01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: sports team that is in the business of winning to

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01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: have the right answer and to be moral arbiters, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the conversation is always going to

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Speaker 1: kind of get caught up. Jenny vis sports leading. After

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Speaker 1: the redo of the Ray Rice incident, it sort of

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01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: established a standard, right like a six week barebone six

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01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: week minimum suspension for a domestic violence incident. Am I

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01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: correct on that? Or is that just a couple of

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01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: incidents have been handled that way? And how does this

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01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: apply to what the Kareem hunt might wind up getting.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it was supposed to be a six sixth

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01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: week was sort of the minimum bar for any violation

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Speaker 1: of the conic quality. Obviously this is a little slightly different.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't intimate partner violence, but it was you know,

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01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: violence against the woman and that. But we have seen

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Speaker 1: that that sixth game, which was supposed to sort of

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Speaker 1: be the standard, has really been a sliding scale more

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01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: than they initially sold it to be. So I think

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Speaker 1: the lack of consistency and how discipline has been applied

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01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: has been really has you know, kind of undercut the

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Speaker 1: league policies in this area. I think that's certainly one issue.

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Speaker 1: You know, basically you're saying things are less bad than others,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's always like you know, like I

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01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: said before, that's always going to be the complication. So

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Speaker 1: but I you know, I do expect in this case

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Speaker 1: it will probably be six at least, because you know,

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01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: there was not just one incident, there were multiple and

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Speaker 1: do you think that's enough. I don't know the right

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01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: answer to that. I don't know what's enough, you know, I,

2044
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Speaker 1: like I said before, you know, I don't think the

2045
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: zero tolerance is the answer. I think when teams talk

2046
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,839
Speaker 1: about zero tolerance, that's it's more complicated than saying simply

2047
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: if someone you know hits someone that can never have

2048
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: a way back in. You know, it's sure there is

2049
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: a path back to employment and earning that is important

2050
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Speaker 1: to have. On the other hand, this isn't just a

2051
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: regular job, right It's a job where you're on a

2052
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: big stage and you're a public figure. So earning a

2053
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 1: path back to employment is different than earning a path

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01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: back to the NFL stage. So I think if you

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01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: have zero tolerance, you the problem with that is that

2056
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:03,520
Speaker 1: you you know, it makes you know, women or victims

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Speaker 1: of violence less likely to report. I think that's the

2058
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: biggest concern, or that it could make dangerous situations even

2059
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: more dangerous. And I think that's the flaw with zero

2060
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: tolerance according to experts. But I think you have to

2061
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, there's got to be a better

2062
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 1: answer than signing someone you know just ten weeks after

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Speaker 1: an incident like this kind of came to light. Last

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Speaker 1: question on this issue I have for you, Jenny, is

2065
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Speaker 1: that I have read in some quarters people not congratulating um,

2066
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: not congratulating the Browns for doing this, but basically saying, hey,

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01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: they're smart, they got ahead of it. They now they

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Speaker 1: have an asset that may or may not get a suspension,

2069
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: but at least they have an asset that that might

2070
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: just turn around, right, that John Dercy might turn around

2071
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: and get something in exchange for the rights to uh

2072
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Speaker 1: to Kareem Hunt. And again they're not congratulating them on that,

2073
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 1: but you know how it is in the NFL, people

2074
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: tip their caps. Nice move, Browns. I've seen some of that.

2075
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that. I've seen a lot

2076
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: of that as well, because from a football standpoint, it's

2077
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: a good football move, right. I mean, you are buying

2078
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: low on a guy. You figure, I'll have some kind

2079
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: of suspension this year, but you'll he'll be a restricted

2080
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: free agent heading into the next season, so you have

2081
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: an opportunity to hold on to him as a player.

2082
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, and that's basically you know, John

2083
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 1: Dorsey's making a football decision. Here calling it anything else

2084
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: would be flawed, right, So there are people that are

2085
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: going to look at it that way. But you know,

2086
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: it just it doesn't feel great, and it doesn't it

2087
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: feels like it's too short, and you know, yeah, maybe

2088
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: if they've waited, another team would have would have jumped in.

2089
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: But it also felt like a risk they didn't have

2090
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: to take. I mean, speaking from a purely football perspective,

2091
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a risk they had to take.

2092
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: Right If you look at her roster, they have a

2093
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 1: lot of talented tailbacks, and so you sort of wonder

2094
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: exactly why it was so important to them to take

2095
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: this gamble and not talk to anyone in their locker room, right.

2096
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the other part of it is that

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Speaker 1: the investigative process that they underwent. You know, they said

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Speaker 1: they didn't talk to he said Percy said he didn't

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Speaker 1: talk to any current players, did not reach out to

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Speaker 1: the victims. So the level of fact finding, particularly in

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Speaker 1: a situation where we know that the chiefs cut hunts

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Speaker 1: because they said he was untruthful with them, So your

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Speaker 1: whole fact finding cannot just be talking to him, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things we also wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about. Jenny was the you know, the new

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Speaker 1: head coaches around the National Football League. A couple of

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Speaker 1: coaches switch places within the division. Adam Gase goes from

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Dolphins and the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Jets, and Brian Flores, as a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: that New England Patriots, goes to be the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Dolphins. So what do you make first of all,

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores as a guy a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: know very much about. Seems guys have emerged from the

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick coaching staff before and had limited success. What

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Speaker 1: do you know about Brian Flores and how do you

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: expect to go in Miami? Yeah, it's so interesting, right

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01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: because Brian Floors, like many Patriots assistants, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: spent his entire career there basically being cross trained. You know,

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Speaker 1: he started as a shouting assistant, he spent a little time,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing some work as an offensive assistant, and

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01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: then he was on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: which is just such a typical New England career path.

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of times when these guys are

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Speaker 1: in more prominent roles. They're not very well known because

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Speaker 1: they've sort of been, you know, inside the Patriots building

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01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: and they haven't really been out front. And so this

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Speaker 1: was his first year as a play caller, and that's

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Speaker 1: when I think we first started learning more about him.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, a couple of things stand out.

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Speaker 1: One is the number of assistants that went to Miami

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Speaker 1: with him, and not all of them went for larger roles.

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Speaker 1: Chad O'sheay did go for a larger role, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh Boyer, the cornerbacks coach, should Plinsky, the assistant quarterbacks coach,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of them went for lateral moves. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that that does speak a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: You know that he is a guy that people have

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Speaker 1: belief in. And I was around the Patriots leading up

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and I actually do a story

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Speaker 1: on floor. You know, he's balancing a lot of things

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Speaker 1: off the field. His mother has been undergoing treatment for

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Speaker 1: cancer and this passmall stops treatment and it's in a

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Speaker 1: hospice care and you know, he had bought her a

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Speaker 1: home in Foxborough and would visit her every night, essentially

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01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: on his way home from the office. However, late that maybe,

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01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: as we all know, a coach's schedules are crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he's a man that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of character and knows how to multitask and

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Speaker 1: handle difficult situations. And I do think there I did sense,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is loyalty from players, and he called

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Speaker 1: that blitz play that resulted in the interception that really

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01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: helps feal the game for the Patriots. And I do

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01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: think there's a sense that maybe this is a guy

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01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: who could succeed outside the Blichick tree. Obviously, the track

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01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: record has not been great, but maybe he has a chance.

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Speaker 1: And I do think he has a a very natural

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01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: leadership style about him. So I was impressed with my

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Speaker 1: interactions with him. Run the Line with Jenny brinta Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated senior writer. You mentioned, Jenny, you were around the

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Speaker 1: Patriots a last Super Bowl week. You were the pool reporter, right,

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Speaker 1: the one reporter assigned to go to their practices and

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Speaker 1: watch what they were doing getting ready for the game. Yeah,

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01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: that was a really interesting assignment, you know, having the

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Speaker 1: chance to see practice and the way they prepare for

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and just how focused and how every

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Speaker 1: detail matters. You know, obviously if the team's in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you would probably expect that, but I think

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Speaker 1: it was interesting just to see, you know, this, this

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Speaker 1: team has been such a machine for the last you know,

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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen years, right, So I think that just kind

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Speaker 1: of seeing that focus at practice was interesting. And the

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Speaker 1: day before the game, they had sort of a family

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Speaker 1: day at the stadium and all the families came for

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01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,799
Speaker 1: pictures and things. But even while they're Belichick and Brady

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Speaker 1: were looking around the stadium taking notes about things for

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Speaker 1: the game and having discussions, and Belichick was kind of

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Speaker 1: flagging things to remind his team about with the stadium.

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Speaker 1: So I think just the level of detail that you

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Speaker 1: see that goes on behind the scenes there was really

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Speaker 1: interesting to see. I know you wrote about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit during Super Bowl week, and I'm wondering, now,

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Speaker 1: you know, a week and a half after the game,

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Speaker 1: any thoughts on rab Gronkowski in his future. Did you

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Speaker 1: get the sense that he was approaching the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: as if it might be his last NFL game? If

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Speaker 1: guy has comment the week before the game just about

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Speaker 1: how you know how much of a toll the game

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Speaker 1: can take after a while, and you know your body

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Speaker 1: is sort of beaten down in so many different ways.

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Speaker 1: I thought those were interesting comments because, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think when players start to think about that, and obviously

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Speaker 1: hem all of retirement last season, so it's something that's

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Speaker 1: been on his mind. And in the position that he plays,

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Speaker 1: he's he has taken a beating. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: big guy who at times performs like a receiver at

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Speaker 1: other times as a blocker. Really transformed that that position.

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Speaker 1: But I think this year, while he was healthier in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, then you saw him get that quad

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Speaker 1: strain midway through the game and he was hobbling around

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and things. Watching him play and

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Speaker 1: hearing his comments, it's clear how much of a physical

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Speaker 1: tool he's taken. You know, the game is taken on

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Speaker 1: him over his career, and I think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a toss up anytime a guy says they're considering retirement,

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Speaker 1: you know, which it feels like a very real possibility.

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Speaker 1: Although in some ways, you know, it did feel like

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Speaker 1: this year in New England was a big contrast to

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Speaker 1: last year. I felt very much like they had put

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Speaker 1: the issues of last season behind them and it was

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Speaker 1: very kumbaya and you could tell that, you know, Bronkowski

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Speaker 1: and Brady and Belichick, we're all having fun and enjoying

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Speaker 1: each other's company. And so I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: he came back despite all of his comments, but it

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Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be a shock at he retired also. And

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Speaker 1: one of the other things we asked you about is

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Speaker 1: the Adam Gase moved to the Jets. Why why Adam

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01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Gase to the Jets. What's the biggest reason for that happening.

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Speaker 1: They were looking for someone to take Sam Darnold on

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01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: the next step of his development. I think that they

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01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: felt like that, you know, Gaye was a guy who

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Speaker 1: could do that. They got an endorsement from Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure helped the Jets decision making a little bit.

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Speaker 1: His track wor here in Miami, you know, obviously was

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: not great, though he did, you know, play a bunch

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01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: of games without his starting quarterback, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was the best situation that he entered into, right

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01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: because the team is already committed to Tannehill, and so

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01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: he was kind of in a spot where you try

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01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,520
Speaker 1: to make it work with a quarterback, and then Tannehill's

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01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 1: injured a bunch, and then you get to the end

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01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: of three years and you know, the team wants to

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01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: start a rebuild, and a coach heading into his fourth

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01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: theater doesn't want to start a rebuild. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know that his I don't know that I was such

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Speaker 1: a stard in Miami. I don't. Obviously didn't go well,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't hate the Jets move.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there is a possibility that he

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01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: could be a guy that is great for Darnold and

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01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 1: that he has worked with a lot of different quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in his career and can help, you know, bring some

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Speaker 1: of that too Darnold. On the other hand, you know,

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Speaker 1: there were some some questions in Miami, you know, some

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01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: some about the locker room and how players responded. So

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Speaker 1: I think that he's got to sort of learn from those,

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01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: you know, any issues that came up there, and sort of,

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Speaker 1: you know, your second time around, hopefully you don't make

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Speaker 1: some of the same mistakes as the first time. Jennie on,

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01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: one more team to ask you about, And we've talked

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01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: about the Steelers on our show here all day today,

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01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown, about Levan Bell, just an overview. What

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Speaker 1: do you think's going on down there. It is very

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01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic for the Pittsburgh Steelers day have this much turmoil

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01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: in the off season and this much uncertainty about who's back,

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01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 1: who's coming back, what do you make all that, and

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01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: with such a high profile player that's you know, difficult

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Speaker 1: to replace. It was such a weird season. I was

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01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: there early in the year to do something on Bell

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01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: during his you know, early season absence obviously extended for

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01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 1: the whole season, and it was it was such a

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01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: weird vibe hearing that. You know, usually you don't hair

2260
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: teammates right come out and speak out against other teammates.

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: They all sort of understand if this is a business,

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01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: and they respect those business decisions. But I think they

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01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: felt like the way Bell handled things that really set

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01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 1: off a lot to teammates. And then with Brown, you know,

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01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: that final game of the season, essentially quitting on the team.

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01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: I think that's a hard cell to have a guy

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: back in the locker room after that happens. At the

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01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: same time, you know, what do the Steelers have to

2269
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: gain from a trade, right, and they still got they

2270
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: would take a big calf hit if they traded him.

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01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 1: They would lose their best player with you know, an

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01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: aging quarterback, you feel like you're at the end of

2273
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: a window, and so you know, Brown wants out, and

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01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: at this point it feels like the Steelers kind of

2275
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 1: have no choice but to go that direction because it

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01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 1: might be passed the point of no return. But I

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01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: don't think you can totally rule out some kind of reconciliations, right, Yeah,

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01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: that's it. I got to agree with you. It's hard

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01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: to get past for a lot of players, and even

2280
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: if even if some players can't, others can't. It's a

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01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: hard decision to sell to the entire locker room. And

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01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: I think he gotta have everybody on board with whatever happens,

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01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: and I think Antonio Brown made that almost impossible. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's very well said, Jenny. Thanks for this great work

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: all season long, but especially a couple of weeks ago

2286
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl as the pool reporter. We thank

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01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: you very much for being with us here today and

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01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: hope to cross paths again soon maybe the combine. Yeah.

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01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely than Jenny. Jenny brentas Sports Illustrated Senior writer, contributed

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01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,759
Speaker 1: to MMQB dot SI dot com. Former Jets and Giants

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Speaker 1: beat reporter Jenny joined us on the Subway fresh Day Hotline,

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01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,759
Speaker 1: presented by Subway Restaurants probably be locally owned and operated.

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Speaker 1: I want to discuss this with you, Steve, just briefly.

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01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: So I asked Adam. I asked Rich Simini about Adam

2295
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Gase yesterday, usked Jenny about Adam Gaze today. Look, my

2296
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: last impression of Adam Gas is at amazing news conference

2297
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: when he was introduced, and Semini said it yesterday and

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01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: I got the censor in Jenny. Two people have sort

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01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,560
Speaker 1: of moved beyond that. It appear it was it was

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01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 1: weird video. Rich Semini said it was kind of a

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: social media thing, and it was, and he was. He

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01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 1: was crucified in social media within minutes of his face

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01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: making eye rolling news conference. But I'm getting the sense

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Speaker 1: from people I respect, like Rich Semini yesterday and Jenny

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Speaker 1: brent Us today that who cares right, he's still an

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01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: NFL coach and maybe do a good job down there.

2307
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, there's he can overcome that.

2308
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And I'll tell you when

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01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: he's sit and talk with him and I and I

2310
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: have with Adam Gase. He's a very engaging guy's very

2311
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: down to earth and he's very much a locker room guy.

2312
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: He's casual. You see him when he walks around the

2313
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: He'll see him when he walks around the facility when

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01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: we do meetings with him. He's a jeans and flip

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01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: flop guy and he doesn't change. When he's on the

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01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: sidelines for the Dolphin games, that will be the only

2317
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: time he always has a baseball cap on. He did

2318
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:57,759
Speaker 1: not in his press conference, but he has a baseball

2319
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: cap on always, and it's always backwards. The only time

2320
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: he has it forwards is when it's on camera on

2321
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: the sideline and he's been told you have to wear

2322
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: your hat forwards. Now, I don't know why he does that,

2323
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:17,879
Speaker 1: but he wears that hat backwards constantly. He's just a young, casual, jeans, hoodie,

2324
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 1: T shirt guy. He does not dress up. I don't

2325
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: think he likes it. I don't think he's comfortable doing it.

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01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: He is very much a locker room bro kind of

2327
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: guy that players connect with. He's got a very young vibe,

2328
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 1: kind of almost a gamer vibe, real casual and you know,

2329
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 1: slouches in his chair, you know that kind of guy.

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01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: He's now he's got an incredible depth of knowledge as well.

2331
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: When he starts talking to him about offenses and defenses,

2332
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: what he sees, what he talks about, He's all over

2333
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 1: it tactically offensively. I think it's a very telling that

2334
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 1: he learned something from his Miami days that he brought

2335
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: to the Jets. He brought Greg Williams as a defensive coordinator.

2336
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,839
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time talking about that yesterday.

2337
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: He needs somebody like Greg Williams on that side of

2338
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: the ball to head coach the defense. Greg Williams can

2339
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 1: do that. Adam Gasee is a play caller, offensive guy

2340
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 1: who is going to get that offense clicking and give

2341
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: his quarterback some weapons. He's going to bring Sam darn

2342
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: along very well when he's struggling. Where he's going to struggle,

2343
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I think, and that's just my opinion. You're right, it's

2344
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: just my opinion. I don't know that he's going to

2345
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,799
Speaker 1: do that, But here's where I think he's going to struggle.

2346
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, somebody's got to be the lead dog

2347
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 1: and say how it's going to be. It's hard for

2348
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: him to raise up and become an executive type leader

2349
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: that I think an NFL team needs. He may be

2350
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: able to do that in the Jets with the Jets

2351
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: more so than he did with the Dolphins. Or he

2352
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: may handle that in a way that hasn't been like,

2353
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, in his own way that is effective in

2354
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: that manner. But I think that's one place where he struggled.

2355
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: He didn't wrap his arms around the entire organization the

2356
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 1: way I think a great head coach needs to do.

2357
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's going to be his biggest test

2358
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 1: in New York. That's gonna be interesting to follow Adam

2359
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: Gayson how that turns out with the New York Jets.

2360
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: We got a good show going on. We got more

2361
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: time to do it as well, and more discussion coming up.

2362
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more about Joe Flacco traded to the Broncos,

2363
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: the deal made in principle today. If you have thoughts

2364
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: on that, give us a call at eight o three

2365
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

2366
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty and should the Bills trade

2367
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: for wide receiver antonio' Brown of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's

2368
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. It's a red hot Twitter pole. It's

2369
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: pretty close. Should the Bills trade for Antonio Brown. Forty

2370
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: three percent of you say no, he'd be bad for

2371
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo locker room. Thirty three percent of you say yes,

2372
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: but don't send away a first round pick for him.

2373
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Fourteen percent of you say yes, whatever it takes, get

2374
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown here. Ten percent of you say no, don't

2375
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: do it. He won't be effective. So fifty three percent

2376
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: say don't trade for him, and forty seven percent say yes,

2377
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: trade for him. What do you think? Phone lines open

2378
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: eight o three oh five fifty toll free one eight

2379
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty voting the Twitter Pole.

2380
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Send us a tweet. We may read it on the air.

2381
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: We can discuss that. We can discuss Joe Flacco, whatever

2382
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: you'd like. We're coming back for more. Also NFL True

2383
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: and Falls coming up. One Bill's Live presented by Klatta

2384
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's

2385
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 1: radio shark called One Bill's Live. It comes from One

2386
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. It is a winterry day, wouldn't you say,

2387
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: Steve today in Archerpark wintry You're laughing like, yeah, it qualifies.

2388
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: It's a wintry morning and it has remained a wintry

2389
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: reasoned the wintry last free day. Yeah, I guess, huh

2390
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: have you heard? I haven't looked at any forecast. I

2391
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 1: don't have to look at any forecasts, bron look at

2392
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: it out there. You know what we didn't do. This

2393
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: was at the urgine of our producer Jay Harris, who

2394
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: he has pretty good idea sometimes he wanted to do.

2395
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 1: And you know, we're talking a lot these days on

2396
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 1: the show about what are you looking for from the offseason? Draft,

2397
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 1: free agency? How woud you the Bills position themselves? He said,

2398
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 1: why don't you guys come up with your dream scenario?

2399
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find mine. Well, I

2400
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 1: gotta hear somewhere. Dream scenario. It's hard. Look, they're moving parts.

2401
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna ever get your dream scenario. You're not

2402
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna get everything you need. Well, here, that's the thing

2403
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: I did mine thinking I got a chance at this,

2404
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: you did I did? All right, let's hear it Steve

2405
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 1: Tasker's offseason dream scenario for the Buffalo Bills. This is

2406
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about personnel, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's hear yours. Okay,

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 1: First of the one thing I did trade for a

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01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: big name wide receiver, AJ Green, Julio Jones. Wow, why

2409
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 1: need a big name? But everybody somebody who can go. Man,

2410
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I want somebody. I want a big I want somebody

2411
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I can get behind. Here's John Brown, a big name.

2412
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he's a free agent, though, Oh, somebody a team

2413
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: actually wants. These free agents. I get at their contracts.

2414
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 1: You're running out the team. But you know, I mean,

2415
01:57:56,200 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: I want to trade for a guy who's got some yeah,

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01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 1: like AJ Green or Julio or one of those somebody

2417
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: of that ILK, like like DeAndre Hopkins, you know, t

2418
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. Don't get one of those guys. You get

2419
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: somebody they really want. Okay, that's number one, number two

2420
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: signed two dominant free agent offensive linemen, big time guys,

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01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: free agents. I want to get the best offensive lineman.

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01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: About the name, why don't we say in the other day,

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01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not about the names, it's about the games.

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01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, I don't care if I don't

2425
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: care who they are, I don't care if the names are. Well,

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01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: you got big names, A big name wide receiver, Well, yeah,

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01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I want one of those guys. I'm just I'm talking

2428
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: about dominant. I'm talking about offensive linemen. I want some

2429
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 1: big time old on two of them, just two, just

2430
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: two that too, dominant, two dominant players, all right. And

2431
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: then the third thing is draft a big time edge

2432
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: rusher in the first round. Okay, come on, man, you're

2433
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: acting like I'm off the kilter, and you're gonna go

2434
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: to yours and you're gonna be almost like just like mine.

2435
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 1: They are very close to yours out though I think

2436
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: mine are is a little more realistic. Mine is realistic,

2437
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: and I don't care about names. Let me say that

2438
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 1: my perfect offseason when it comes to personnel for the

2439
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills draft not signed. Draft two starting caliber offensive linemen.

2440
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: They don't have to be in the first round. They

2441
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: don't have to be in the second round. They gotta

2442
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: be big guys who can learn, because these offensive linemen

2443
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 1: coming out of college are not, for the most part,

2444
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: finished products. The ones who are are rare like the

2445
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, Quentin Nelson at Indianapolis. But draft two of

2446
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 1: them third round, fourth round, maybe even fifth round, starting

2447
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: caliber guys who can walk in and start soon. Teach

2448
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: him up, coach him up, teach him how to play,

2449
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 1: and plug him in the starting lineup before the season

2450
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: is over. Two of them. That's okay, all right, you

2451
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: put that before you know, Okay, go ahead, sign free agents.

2452
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: Two dominant free agent Oh, that's yours. Signed two starting

2453
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:49,520
Speaker 1: caliber free agent wide receivers. Two different guys too, A

2454
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 1: speed guy and a chain move, a spot guy and

2455
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: a bas and a John Brown. Yeah. I don't like

2456
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: cop Leasy, but I like John Brown. He is my

2457
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: number one choice in the free agent market, I think,

2458
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: and he's all most He's he's fast enough, but I

2459
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: think he is close to being a complete package wide receiver.

2460
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:07,839
Speaker 1: Can do a little bit of everything. But Randall Cobb's

2461
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay a little Yeah, how old is he? I

2462
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: worry about that a little bit, right, And then finally

2463
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: draft or sign a pass rush specialist. You might have

2464
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 1: to do a free agent You're thinking a guy who

2465
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: can rush the past rack. After this draft, you're gonna

2466
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 1: have two starting offensive linemen and a draft pass rush specialist.

2467
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 1: You think that's more likely the signing two free agent

2468
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Well, look, you can draft you got draft

2469
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: edge rusher in the first round. You can draft a

2470
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 1: pass rush specials in the first round. If that both

2471
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: the draft falls. Yeah, we agree on that. And I

2472
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 1: also think in the third, maybe the second, but somewhere

2473
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: from between the second and fourth round. Likely you can

2474
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: get a starting caliber offensive lineman. You can't be designed

2475
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: two dominant free agent offers get too. Yeah, here's the thing.

2476
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 1: Let's just go down to the numbers of who we

2477
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 1: think we need. I've got at least one big time

2478
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You've got two, and I've said two offensive lineman.

2479
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: You said two offensive line and we both said a

2480
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: pass rusher. So basically five guys were we are? We're

2481
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: a dentical. What are we talking about? What we list?

2482
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 1: You've got caught up in names. You're looking for the

2483
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 1: big splash. Wait, you're looking for Oh, just one minute,

2484
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:18,879
Speaker 1: we got just pump the brakes for just a Hart Williams.

2485
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: The Harris breath. Here, your boy, your boy. Jay Harris said,

2486
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 1: big name wide receiver. I just said a big, big

2487
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: time number one receiver name. It doesn't matter if it's

2488
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 1: a big name, if you've ever heard him. I want

2489
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 1: a big time guy. And I and when you talk

2490
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 1: about that, of course we've heard of him. I want

2491
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 1: a guy. Trade. We're talking abo wide receivers. We're trading

2492
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 1: for the guy we're obviously gonna know who that is.

2493
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Are we are we talking wide receivers, because I want

2494
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: a guy who has room for improvement, who's shown a

2495
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: little bit in his first contract in the NFL and

2496
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: is ready to take the next step with a big

2497
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: arm quarterback. I don't want a guy who's has already

2498
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: done it. I want a guy who's ready for the

2499
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: next step I'm gonna work for with a big arm

2500
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 1: quarterback who can make me look good John Brown. That's

2501
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: why I want. That's the type of guy I want.

2502
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't care if they're big. No. No, that point,

2503
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: you're splitting hair. I don't think so yeah, all right,

2504
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: so there we go. Um, you're splitting no, I don't

2505
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: think so, yes you are. No, I don't care about

2506
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: big names you have. You're backing off your your assertion

2507
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: that you want a big name because I can name

2508
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: some guys I'd like to trade for. Doesn't mean I'm

2509
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: caught up in their name. But we do know who

2510
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 1: those guys are. And you're telling me you'd rather have

2511
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: something John Brown than than DeAndre Hopkins. DeAndre Hopkins will

2512
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 1: never be available to the Bills. And again, listen, this

2513
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: is just best case scenario, dream scenario in fact this

2514
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 1: mine says dream scenario. Mine was perfect offseason. So now

2515
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 1: we're not even talking. We're not even talking about the

2516
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 1: same thing. You just want to argue. That's all there

2517
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 1: is too sing here. Let's argue about this, all right.

2518
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,879
Speaker 1: I came across this. I think it's interesting. The Carolina

2519
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: Panthers have given a defensive line coach, Sam Mills, who's

2520
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 1: been there for a while, giving him new responsibilities. He's

2521
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 1: now going to be a game management coach as well

2522
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: as defensive line coach Sam Mills. He will assist head

2523
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 1: coach Ron Rivera in clock management, replay challenges, another situational

2524
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 1: football analysis. Samuel's been there for fifteen years on the

2525
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:19,959
Speaker 1: Panthers coaching staff. They're gonna give him in charge of replay,

2526
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 1: time management, score management. I get it. That's a head

2527
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: coach's job, isn't it. You got to hire somebody. I mean,

2528
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I know they got, you know, fifteen twenty twenty five

2529
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. But that's a head coach's job to manage

2530
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: the game, to know when the right time is to

2531
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 1: call a time out and know how to work the clock,

2532
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: isn't it, Steve Yes, it's I would say it put

2533
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 1: it more like this, It is it's a head coach's responsibility. Yeah,

2534
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: so you can delegate that. And I tell you this,

2535
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,560
Speaker 1: it's getting to the point where there's so much going

2536
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 1: on with replay, timeouts, clock management, replay challenges, all of

2537
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 1: that stuff that you just mentioned. And I've spoken to remember,

2538
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin was a head coach of the Dolphins. I

2539
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: spoke with him on a number of occasions during production meetings,

2540
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: and he said he spent an inordinate amount of time

2541
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 1: watching the last five minutes in real time of games

2542
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 1: around the National Football League, other games to see how

2543
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: coaches handled timeouts. When to take the time out before

2544
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 1: the two minute warning, after the two minute warning, When

2545
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: do you save your timeouts for the last drive? When

2546
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: do you take him? Why would you take a time

2547
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: out outside of the last half of the fourth quarter

2548
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 1: or the last half of the second quarter. You know,

2549
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:32,240
Speaker 1: all of these things about game and clock management. He

2550
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: spent an inordinate amount of time getting prepared for because

2551
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like an art form, because all

2552
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you do this and you take a

2553
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 1: time out of the same point of the clock and

2554
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: the same point of the game. One week and it's

2555
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: wrong the next week because the team that's got the

2556
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: ball is now at a third and three instead of

2557
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: a first and tent. It changes everything. And there are

2558
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 1: so many variables. You need a guy who does nothing

2559
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 1: but prepare for that so he can say, hey, no,

2560
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 1: take the time out right now. That kind of thing,

2561
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,240
Speaker 1: and that got to be on top of it. And

2562
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: I've told you before a lot of coaches get that innately.

2563
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 1: They kind of seem to have a knack for it,

2564
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 1: but it's hard to do and with it. And when

2565
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: you got a play clock ticking down and it's down

2566
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 1: and distance and the game is tied, and you've already

2567
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 1: made a couple of decisions and there's a couple on

2568
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 1: the back burner that you're thinking about, you need somebody

2569
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 1: who's on it and you can say, hey, what about

2570
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 1: a time out here? And they say yes or no.

2571
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:26,240
Speaker 1: And that's that's big. That's really big. And I applaud

2572
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: him for ala Ron Rivera for saying, listen, I need

2573
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: some help with this, all right, I guess, but I

2574
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: mean in this situation, Sam Maels is also going to

2575
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 1: continue to coach the defensive line, so his attention will

2576
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 1: not be solely focused on game management and I also

2577
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: want to bring this up and this will prompt you know,

2578
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: acres of eye rolling around our listening audience. But Rex

2579
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Ryan tried that with the Jets during his tenure with

2580
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: the Jets, hiring one guy whose sole purpose was to

2581
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: be upstairs in the booth and watch for replay challenges,

2582
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 1: watch for a clock management time out management didn't work. Now,

2583
02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 1: if you were around Rex Ryan a little bit, you

2584
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 1: would probably have no problem concocting reasons why it wouldn't work.

2585
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: And in fact, I talked to Rex about it when

2586
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 1: he was here and he said, oh, sometimes we didn't

2587
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: pay attention to the guy. If he said call it

2588
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 1: time out here, we'd be like, nah, we know better.

2589
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That was the guy that

2590
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: they hired, and that was quite frankly, that was kind

2591
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: of the way Rex worked. But he tried. It didn't work.

2592
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 1: He had one year. I think the guy was there

2593
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 1: one year as a game management specialist upstairs with the

2594
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: Jets when Rex was there. Well, there you go. I mean,

2595
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: you might do the right thing and then not use it.

2596
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 1: Put the right tool in place, and then not use

2597
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 1: it in the right way, which is what you know

2598
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 1: you can say that about it, but certainly you've when

2599
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 1: with replays, replay challenges, those kind of things, you've got

2600
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 1: to have some people you trust. You gotta have some

2601
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 1: people who are on top of clock management and timeouts.

2602
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 1: And in fact, I would almost you almost got to

2603
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 1: separate those two for me, get a replay guy and

2604
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: then get a challenge and get a time out. To

2605
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: have thirty five assistant coaches. Okay, I was thinking about this.

2606
02:06:57,840 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 1: It's not that complex. I get it. I get it,

2607
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 1: But think about this, how's come we do it? Once

2608
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 1: in a while. It will happen, But and I keep

2609
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 1: we harpened back to the New England Patriots. They lost

2610
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, although you can say what you want

2611
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: about how much of a defensive coordinator he was with

2612
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. There they lost their head defensive coordinator and

2613
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: about three or four, five, half a dozen other assistant

2614
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 1: coaches followed Brian flor As to Miami. They're going to

2615
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 1: probably promote guys to those positions from within, guys who

2616
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:36,640
Speaker 1: are already on the payroll. How many guys do they got, Yeah,

2617
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: they've got I think it's a beehive over there. I

2618
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 1: think they got like dozens upon dozens of guys who

2619
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: are working up through that pyramid of you got to

2620
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: earn your way by working ninety hours a week and

2621
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 1: do it for twenty grand a year. And we got

2622
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 1: some of those types here too. Hey, every team does

2623
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of those guys. But you think

2624
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: about it, I'm gonna be really interested to see the

2625
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 1: names of the guys that they elevate to those positions,

2626
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: because I really do think they're going to elevate some

2627
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: people rather than say, oh, by the way, we took

2628
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: we plucked this guy off of this staff and this

2629
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 1: guy off of this staff, and that goes you know,

2630
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: and may that may get some guys from Alabama. You know.

2631
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:20,200
Speaker 1: The other day I think gianno, yeah, I think he was.

2632
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 1: He is going to be on their staff. That's one.

2633
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: But that's a you know, that's a rarity, you know. Yeah,

2634
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's an old he's an old

2635
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:34,320
Speaker 1: buddy of Yeah. Right, he's their defense coordinator now writer. Yeah,

2636
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 1: I had to give him the title. And you know,

2637
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:39,160
Speaker 1: if they did maybe, I don't know. I'm looking that up.

2638
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,520
Speaker 1: So they bring in some outsiders, but they gotta be

2639
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 1: guys with a history, it seems with listen, the game

2640
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 1: is really complex, and it's starting to move faster and faster,

2641
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 1: and they're starting to you know, they got this forty

2642
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 1: second game clock that has been chopped off by the

2643
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 1: AAF down to thirty seconds, and they shut the microphones

2644
02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 1: off at the fifteen second mark, So basically you've got

2645
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:05,360
Speaker 1: that first thirty seconds, you know, first twenty seconds of

2646
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 1: time that where the playclock really counts before the snap.

2647
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 1: So everything's starting to move faster on the sidelines and

2648
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 1: the decision making process and how they get things done

2649
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and starting to move pretty fast. You

2650
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:19,280
Speaker 1: need more guys to help. Greg Schiano spent the last

2651
02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 1: three years as defensive coordinator in Ohio State. He will

2652
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 1: call defensive signals for the Patriots. I don't think they've

2653
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 1: named him the defensive coordinator yet, and you're right, yeah,

2654
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 1: And now I'll give you some names they lost. Brian

2655
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 1: Flores will be the Dolphins head coach. Also headed in

2656
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 1: Miami from New England is a chad O'sheay defensive passing

2657
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:40,919
Speaker 1: game chief and quarterbacks coach JOHNS. Boyer and assistant quarterbacks

2658
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 1: coach Jerry Schlopinski and guys are leaving the Patriots. Patriots

2659
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 1: after Phil Vakins, he's a linebacker coach, defensive line coach,

2660
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 1: corners and assistant quarterbacks coach. Four guys. Yeah, so they'll

2661
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: probably win twelve games this year. He would a very

2662
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 1: will be skipped NFL truin false and we can save tomorrow. Yeah,

2663
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 1: because I don't like any of these two and falls.

2664
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 1: All right, you could say that. You could say that

2665
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:07,840
Speaker 1: before we get two and a half, two forty five

2666
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 1: minutes into the show. Not doing anything for me, all right,

2667
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back though. One Bill's Live presented

2668
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.

2669
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: So now it's time for what have we learned from

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2673
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had Arthur Mots on the show.

2674
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,640
Speaker 1: Spent four years as a Bills linebacker for after that

2675
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: as a linebacker special teamer for the Pittsburgh Steelers. A

2676
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 1: teammate of Antonio Brown, who told the Steelers he wants

2677
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 1: to be traded. The other day, Arthur Moats talked about

2678
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and what it was like as a teammate.

2679
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 1: When it comes to teammates, I mean, he was one

2680
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite teammates just because outside of Week seventeen,

2681
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 1: you knew he was always gonna show up. He was

2682
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 1: always going to give a league level effort, and he

2683
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 1: was just down to earth person. I mean everyone he's

2684
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:17,240
Speaker 1: there's the nice cars and the expensive clues and things

2685
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 1: like that, but I mean he's a guy that he

2686
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 1: would joke with your hame with you. If you're one

2687
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar guys, all of the opopter squad player,

2688
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 1: he's still gonna show you that love and he just

2689
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 1: ultimately embraced you. So that's why I feel like a

2690
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of the guys who valued around him outside of

2691
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 1: Week seventeen, he's a great teammate. We gotta we'll get

2692
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 1: back to that in a moment. Also on the show today,

2693
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 1: we had Andy Lindell, who covers the Denver Broncos for

2694
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,440
Speaker 1: KOA Radio in Denver, Colorado. Broncos acquired Joe Flacco in

2695
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 1: the trade today and we asked Andy if that's an

2696
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 1: upgrade at quarterback for the Denver Broncos to the fans.

2697
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Their reaction like it isn't the town is not exactly

2698
02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 1: accepting as well. Um, you know, look, I think it

2699
02:11:57,440 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 1: probably is. Now you're gonna have to keep Joe healthy,

2700
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to keep the pocket clean, and they're

2701
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to do a better job of protecting, you know,

2702
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:06,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback, which has been an issue frankly since even

2703
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 1: prepaid manning days. So there's still some work to be done.

2704
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:12,720
Speaker 1: But I do think I think things got a little

2705
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 1: bit much for Case last year. And I'll tell you

2706
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 1: this tright now. I'm not positive they don't let Case go,

2707
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 1: as it was explained to us from me and Rappaport

2708
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 1: our NFL in center, and he does work on NFL network.

2709
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 1: He basically said at this point, the Broncos don't owe

2710
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: Joe and any guaranteed money. So Flacco maybe on a

2711
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,640
Speaker 1: one year proved deal because they could just cut him

2712
02:12:30,640 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 1: after this year and not have to own him anything.

2713
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:36,480
Speaker 1: Harry interesting out there in Denver Twitter poll today. I

2714
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 1: think it was kind of interesting. Steve. We asked we

2715
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,880
Speaker 1: wanted a sentiment of Bills fans, do you want Antonio

2716
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 1: Brown if that could happen in a trade with the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. And it was a pretty interesting split of

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Speaker 1: sentiment most of our respondents, and we had a lot

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Speaker 1: forty three percent say no, you don't want him, he

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Speaker 1: is banned for the locker room, and another ten percent

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Speaker 1: say no, you don't want him because he won't be effective.

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Speaker 1: So fifty three percent said no, you don't want him,

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Speaker 1: thirty three percent said yes, I'll take Antonio Brown, but

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Speaker 1: not for a first round pick, and fourteen percent said yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll take them whatever it takes. So it was fifty

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Speaker 1: three forty seven knows have it over the Yes, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how that would turn out. I found

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Speaker 1: out neither. That's interesting. Staff, we're both fascinated by that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that it's almost a coin forty seven

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Speaker 1: fifty three Yes, who knows? Yeah, very close for whatever reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good show today, and we have a good one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Some good guests on Martin Moates and Jenny v Vrentes.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. I want to thank our production assistant,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas Homider, Kelly Rude, j J. Turito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cargiss, James Roebel, our producer Jay Harris. We're back

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow twelve noon with more good stuff like we

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Speaker 1: had today. Join us tomorrow at noon. One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio