Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I hope all
Speaker 1: of you are having a fabulous Tuesday. News coming, as
Speaker 1: it often does during the Trump regime, at a rapid fashion.
Speaker 1: We will dive into all of it here momentarily. Reminder,
Speaker 1: Trump is also speaking tonight in front of a joint
Speaker 1: session of Congress, a usual State of the Union, although
Speaker 1: I think in the year after the election it's not
Speaker 1: officially called the State of the Union, but that is
Speaker 1: what will be going on tonight and many will be
Speaker 1: watching to see what the President says. Let me give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of a roadmap we're headed. Senate
Speaker 1: Majority Leader John Thune going to be on with us
Speaker 1: at the bottom of this hour. Every single Democrat senator
Speaker 1: voted against men being prohibited from playing in women's sports.
Speaker 1: In other words, they support men who identify as women
Speaker 1: being able to compete in women's sports. Every single Democrat senator.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Our friend Bill O'Reilly will join us at
Speaker 1: the top of the next hour. That is where we
Speaker 1: are headed. But Buck, the biggest news that is out
Speaker 1: there in the last hour, Zelensky has decided to ben
Speaker 1: the need to Donald Trump and beg for peace. Let
Speaker 1: me read a little bit of what he said. I
Speaker 1: would like This is Zelenski's Twitter account. I would like
Speaker 1: to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us wants
Speaker 1: in endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the
Speaker 1: negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians. My team and
Speaker 1: I stand ready to work under President trump strong leadership
Speaker 1: to get a piece that lasts. We value how much
Speaker 1: America has done. Our meeting in Washington at the White
Speaker 1: House on Friday not go that way. It was supposed
Speaker 1: to be regrettable that it happened this way. It's time
Speaker 1: to make things right. We would like future cooperation and
Speaker 1: communication to be constructive. Regarding the agreement on minerals and Security,
Speaker 1: Ukraine is ready to sign it anytime and in any
Speaker 1: convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward
Speaker 1: greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope
Speaker 1: it will work effectively. All Right, Friday, the blow up, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: the apology again, that statement a little bit longer, Buck,
Speaker 1: What do you think people should take from this situation
Speaker 1: that we are currently in with Ukraine? And where do
Speaker 1: we go from here?
Speaker 2: Well, Trump is doing what he does, which is a
Speaker 2: non traditional approach to try to solve problems.
Speaker 1: And I think that.
Speaker 2: The people who have at every step of the every
Speaker 2: step of the way question came under him said he's crazy,
Speaker 2: he said he's a dictator, are doing what they always do,
Speaker 2: which is more of that. When you look at what
Speaker 2: has already occurred, it does seem to be that Trump
Speaker 2: is using the leverage that he should use on issues
Speaker 2: that matter to get us to a better resolution. All
Speaker 2: that really counts, and this is contra the diplomacy, State Department,
Speaker 2: Foreign policy consensus mindset. All that really matters is the results, right,
Speaker 2: All that really matters is when something happens in response
Speaker 2: to a decision, an action and agreement that Trump has taken.
Speaker 2: How we get there, I think is far less important.
Speaker 2: And so, yes, was it a little bit of a
Speaker 2: surprise to see that dust up in the Oval office?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Do I think that Zelensky was the one who instigated it? Largely? Yes?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: And now are we back in a place where Zelenski
Speaker 2: is saying all the things that we wanted to hear
Speaker 2: from him the.
Speaker 1: First time around? Yes?
Speaker 2: So that to me indicates that Trump is on the
Speaker 2: right track. I also think that this is forced out
Speaker 2: into public view, that the people who just are all
Speaker 2: about the Ukrainian fight and don't ever go beyond Ukraine
Speaker 2: is the good guy, Russia is the bad guy, are
Speaker 2: being forced to justify in public, what exactly is your
Speaker 2: plan if this war goes on for another five years?
Speaker 2: In what way is Ukraine in a better position then
Speaker 2: than they are in now? Russia has more men, more material,
Speaker 2: more North Korean troops, I might add, pouring in. Russia
Speaker 2: has allies who are working directly in this fight, and
Speaker 2: we refuse to do that. That is our redline. So
Speaker 2: how is Ukraine going to be in a better position
Speaker 2: other than losing a lot of our money and a
Speaker 2: lot of their men. They don't have an answer to this.
Speaker 2: Trump knows that. So we're trying to get to where
Speaker 2: we are with the deal now, Clay, if the negotiations
Speaker 2: were to break down because what Putin wants is just
Speaker 2: so unthinkable, is so beyond the pale, well at least
Speaker 2: we would know that, right at least then we can
Speaker 2: have a conversation. Okay, Putin really is being crazier than anticipated.
Speaker 2: On this, So maybe he does need to suffer the
Speaker 2: consequences a little bit more or whatever, But right now
Speaker 2: there's no reason to believe that the option that the
Speaker 2: Ukraine hardliners want to take is better.
Speaker 1: Look where we are right now, and my wife has
Speaker 1: been fired up about this, so she will not stop
Speaker 1: talking about it. I do think that the United States
Speaker 1: has created much of this mess, meaning the invasion, the
Speaker 1: battles over territory, and all that's happening now is Trump
Speaker 1: is trying to clean up the mess. Right You go
Speaker 1: back to the agreement when Ukraine gave up their nukes,
Speaker 1: there was some form of protection agreement entered into and
Speaker 1: Ukraine took it as the United States won't let Russia invadas.
Speaker 1: Obviously Obama did not take it that way. Biden did
Speaker 1: not take it that way. Russia has for a long
Speaker 1: time not wanted NATO on its border. We have continued
Speaker 1: to expand NATO to Russia's border, and I think this
Speaker 1: war is actually a result of much of the failure
Speaker 1: of American policy, both as it pertains to Ukraine and
Speaker 1: to Russia significantly, buck none of which Trump was involved
Speaker 1: in remotely. So he is now in this mess where
Speaker 1: he is trying to end up in a situation where
Speaker 1: he's trying to put this all back right, and so
Speaker 1: the United States is not blameless here. We want to
Speaker 1: be saying, oh Slava Ukraine. Ukraine is the hero and
Speaker 1: Russia is the villain. America is not coming to this
Speaker 1: situation with clean hands. We have, in many ways created,
Speaker 1: I believe, a total mess, and now Trump is trying
Speaker 1: to clean it up, and so I hope that we
Speaker 1: can get a ceasefire here and that people can stop dying.
Speaker 1: My concern, Buck is, now we're moving into okay, what
Speaker 1: does the negotiated piece look like? What does a ceasefire
Speaker 1: look like? It seems to me, and I'm curious if
Speaker 1: you would agree with this that to a large extent,
Speaker 1: wherever the lines are drawn now where the stellmate has
Speaker 1: basically come to exist, it feels to me like Russia
Speaker 1: is going to get a large percentage of those eastern
Speaker 1: parts of Ukraine. Where exactly that line is drawn will
Speaker 1: be a huge debate. And then I hope that Russia
Speaker 1: doesn't decide to invade again. I don't think it will
Speaker 1: happen with Trump in office. But my concern is if
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whomever the Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1: If one of those guys or gals were to win
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, I think Putin would go right
Speaker 1: back to invading again, because I'm not sure he would
Speaker 1: respect the Democrats, as he has shown he did not
Speaker 1: respect Obama and as he has shown he did not
Speaker 1: respect Biden.
Speaker 2: Are There's some very fundamental questions here that I think
Speaker 2: Trump sees properly, and one of them is.
Speaker 1: Do we care enough?
Speaker 2: Do we as Americans care enough about who's in control
Speaker 2: of twenty five percent or so fifteen twenty percent of
Speaker 2: Ukraine that we're willing to lose American soldiers and spend billions,
Speaker 2: perhaps even trillions of dollars, never mind the possibility of
Speaker 2: a nuclear nuclear exchange, which is the euphemism, of course
Speaker 2: we use for nuking each other's militaries in the theater,
Speaker 2: which would be horrifying. Are we willing to do those things? No,
Speaker 2: we're not, And so at some point level, this is
Speaker 2: all just I think a recognition that there's going to
Speaker 2: be an ability that Russia has in its sphere of
Speaker 2: influence here or to expand its sphere of influence here
Speaker 2: because it's not a NATO country, and because we don't
Speaker 2: want to do their fighting for them, and so there
Speaker 2: are limitations on what we're willing to do. There are
Speaker 2: also limitations on the timeframe in which we're willing to
Speaker 2: continue doing what we are already doing in terms of
Speaker 2: the money and materil and training and everything else that
Speaker 2: we have been giving them. This is a messy situation.
Speaker 2: It's terrible how much life has been lost here. You
Speaker 2: brought up Clay, and this is true. You go back
Speaker 2: to the you know, the Maidan and Yanakovich and the
Speaker 2: efforts to figure out who's going to be in charge
Speaker 2: of Ukraine, stretching back now over a decade, the West
Speaker 2: backing one side, Russia backing another. You know, we've been
Speaker 2: playing with this as some kind of a proxy territory
Speaker 2: for much longer than there have even been bullets flying
Speaker 2: over there. So to get this thing to be no
Speaker 2: longer a festering sore, but to be in a position
Speaker 2: where there's an agreement going forward, you know, as far
Speaker 2: as the Russians are concerned, look at the dismemberment that
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union suffered into all these different countries and
Speaker 2: all these breakaway republics. For them, the notion that the
Speaker 2: map is now and forever going to remain the map
Speaker 2: is laughable, clearly, and they very much feel that way,
Speaker 2: and that's why they've been willing to go to this extent.
Speaker 2: And you'll notice that no one even talks anymore about
Speaker 2: how Putin's going to be overthrown or all this. People
Speaker 2: said moronic stuff, and I mean us senators, I don't
Speaker 2: have to name them, I could name them in the
Speaker 2: very beginning of this conflict, delusional about how we'd be
Speaker 2: able to defeat the Russian war machine in this theater
Speaker 2: without actually engaging US military forces in the process. So
Speaker 2: we just want this whole thing to end. I think
Speaker 2: there's tremendous frustration with it. I think it also Clay
Speaker 2: comes out of fighting in multiple decades long counterinsurgency g
Speaker 2: WATT wars in the Mid East that what did we get?
Speaker 2: What did we get in Afghanistan? Exactly?
Speaker 1: That's a really tough one to answer. What did we
Speaker 1: get in Iraq?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Even isn't it funny? Afghanistan was the good war. We
Speaker 2: basically got nothing. We ended up killing Bin Laden in
Speaker 2: Pakistan everybody, So you know, we didn't really get very
Speaker 2: much for our Afghanistan efforts, did we?
Speaker 1: And then you look.
Speaker 2: At Iraq and you know it's marginal right now that
Speaker 2: it's better now than it was under Saddam Hussein. So
Speaker 2: there's been there's been a lot of reason for us
Speaker 2: to see what's gone on with the US foreign policy
Speaker 2: and military interventions and say, have we learned the lesson Clay?
Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's Trump's fundamental guiding
Speaker 2: principle on this. Have we learned the lesson?
Speaker 1: Do you think we have? I'm not sure that we
Speaker 1: have that we haven't. Actually, I think that's a very
Speaker 1: good yes. I think that. Unfortunately, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people still who think, oh, no, you don't understand
Speaker 1: we could do this.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they've just been playing too
Speaker 2: much call of duty or I don't get it. I
Speaker 2: don't know why they would think that this is going
Speaker 2: to be something that we want to get deeper and
Speaker 2: more involved in. I do not care who is in
Speaker 2: charge of CRIMEA, meaning I do not care enough that
Speaker 2: I want to sacrifice a single American or any American
Speaker 2: interest for CRIMEA. For Don bas or Lahnsk and Donetsk.
Speaker 2: In these places, I do not care. Now that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I don't care about the suffering of the people there.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: But Clay, I care about the suffering the people in
Speaker 2: South Sudan as well, which is going through yet another
Speaker 2: mass genocide situation and slow motion. But we're not about
Speaker 2: to land troops there either.
Speaker 1: Here's do you agree with me on a positive side
Speaker 1: if we can get a cease fire. I actually feel
Speaker 1: like Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine further while Trump
Speaker 1: is in office. Do you agree with that that he
Speaker 1: respects Trump enough that he won't do it? I do.
Speaker 2: I think that he recognizes that. You know Trump, Trump
Speaker 2: is willing to upset the Apple card. You don't want
Speaker 2: to tick him off. No one even thought Biden was
Speaker 2: leading the country, So who cares, doesn't matter what he says.
Speaker 2: So the concern is not necessarily the next three years.
Speaker 2: It's again, well, you and I've been talking about and
Speaker 2: I think it's something that everybody out there needs to realize.
Speaker 2: You can believe that Trump is amazing and doing phenomenal
Speaker 2: things than we do. Guys, four years is not enough
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about with this man. The Senate
Speaker 1: majority leader from South Dakota, John Thune. Appreciate him joining
Speaker 1: us right now. Big night on Capitol Hill with Trump
Speaker 1: addressing Congress. We'll get to that in a moment, but Senator,
Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time. I wanted to start with this.
Speaker 1: I still can't believe this is real. Every single Democrat
Speaker 1: center opposed a bill that would keep men from competing
Speaker 1: in women's sports. That is, every Democrats senator that voted
Speaker 1: were you can you believe this has become a political issue.
Speaker 1: And given the fact that seventy nine percent of Americans
Speaker 1: agree men should play men's sports women should play women,
Speaker 1: including sixty seven percent of Democrats, what in the world
Speaker 1: are Democrats thinking on this bill?
Speaker 4: Right? Well, you get good question, guys. I mean, I
Speaker 4: just it's mind blowing to me that this has become
Speaker 4: a political issue where the Democrats are so tethered to
Speaker 4: their I guess transgender ideological political base that they're willing
Speaker 4: to throw common sense out the window. I mean, this
Speaker 4: is just to me almost incomprehensible that we even having
Speaker 4: this conversation. It's, you know, having biological males as the
Speaker 4: opponents of young women, and is both fundamentally unfair and
Speaker 4: it's potentially dangerous, honestly, And so you know, Coach Hubberville,
Speaker 4: Tommy Tubraviille, the senator from Alabama, led this on the floor.
Speaker 4: We had a vote on it last night, and you
Speaker 4: are correct. Every single Democrat to the person voted against it.
Speaker 4: And it's an eighty twenty issue, as you point out,
Speaker 4: with the American people. So I just I can't explain it.
Speaker 4: I think they did there was no lesson learned from
Speaker 4: the election. I think it's common sense issues like this
Speaker 4: that the American people expect their leaders to act on,
Speaker 4: and they just block voted against it.
Speaker 1: What can you say, Senator Thune when they vote against it? Though?
Speaker 2: Are they claiming publicly? I'm just wondering because this has
Speaker 2: just happened, and it's hard to believe that they just
Speaker 2: did this for a lot of us. But I guess
Speaker 2: if you've been paying attention to Democrats, insanity is not
Speaker 2: new to them. But are they saying there's some problem
Speaker 2: in the text of the bill or some procedural or
Speaker 2: are they openly just saying we think dudes should be
Speaker 2: able to play against ladies and that's the way it
Speaker 2: should be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's really honestly the substance
Speaker 4: of it. You know, you could say that the bill
Speaker 4: could be changed this here that way, but it's there.
Speaker 4: It's really very straightforward. And you know, I mean, and
Speaker 4: there was a day when Democrats would have been, you know,
Speaker 4: quick to defend Title nine and and here we are.
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, this is again I had
Speaker 4: I mentioned this from the floorya to day, but I
Speaker 4: had a business professor and graduate school who used to say,
Speaker 4: some things are just intuitively obvious, and and I think
Speaker 4: this is one of those things that's intuitively obvious to people.
Speaker 4: And I, you know, something obviously feel strongly about. I'm
Speaker 4: as a father of two women who played sports, and
Speaker 4: you know, one of whom is in our high school
Speaker 4: and college hall of fame. I just I can't imagine
Speaker 4: a world where you would have guys competing against women
Speaker 4: and taking away opportunities not only to excel in their
Speaker 4: and their field and their sport, but also for college
Speaker 4: scholarships and things that this has serious dounstream consequences. But
Speaker 4: the Democrats on a substance level, on a political level
Speaker 4: seem to have made a decision that they would rather
Speaker 4: defend again in ideology that is completely out of step
Speaker 4: with the American people.
Speaker 1: We're talking to. Senator John Thune, explain to us, because
Speaker 1: I'm curious myself. I don't know why a majority of
Speaker 1: Senators voting for this, which Republicans have and which marshalled
Speaker 1: itself last night, is not enough to make this a law.
Speaker 1: The House passed it only two I believe Democrats voted
Speaker 1: for it in the House. By the way, zero senators
Speaker 1: in the it voted for this on the Democrat side.
Speaker 1: But you needed to get to sixty. Why explain that
Speaker 1: for our audience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's hard. It's an inside baseball thing here.
Speaker 4: It's unique to the United States Senate. But under our
Speaker 4: rules in the Senate, and this is kind of the
Speaker 4: system that the founders standed us, it takes a super
Speaker 4: m majority to do almost anything consequential. And this is
Speaker 4: so sixty votes in the Senate is required to move
Speaker 4: legislation with very few exceptions. And one of the things
Speaker 4: we're working on right now. You've probably heard your listeners
Speaker 4: have probably heard too the President talk about budget reconciliation
Speaker 4: when you have unified control of the government, in other words,
Speaker 4: the House, the Senate, and the White House. There are
Speaker 4: things you can do at fifty one votes in the
Speaker 4: Senate that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do through
Speaker 4: a procedure that is again unique to the Senate, but
Speaker 4: on most issues, and this is an issue where you know,
Speaker 4: again it's a bill that we put in front of
Speaker 4: the Senate, and this, honestly, this was just a motion
Speaker 4: to proceed to the bill. This wasn't even this was
Speaker 4: just to get on it, just to debate it. They
Speaker 4: voted against even having a debate about it. And that
Speaker 4: takes sixty as well. So it's a sixty vote threshold,
Speaker 4: and I know that's for most Americans. Everybody's like, well,
Speaker 4: it isn't fifty one a majority of the Senate. The
Speaker 4: answer is yes. But the rules of the Senate and
Speaker 4: the history and the heritage of the Senate as such
Speaker 4: that it requires as a supermajority on most legislation.
Speaker 2: So what can you hopefully get done through that reconciliation process?
Speaker 2: As some of the top agenda items we've seen this
Speaker 2: this slew of executive orders coming out from Trump, a
Speaker 2: lot of them we've been talking about here in the show.
Speaker 2: We think they're doing great things. Of course, we all
Speaker 2: also know that executive orders can be overturned by the
Speaker 2: next administration if in fact it's a Democrat. So legislation matters,
Speaker 2: and we don't have a super majority. So Senator Thun,
Speaker 2: you're the majority leader. What are some of the top
Speaker 2: things you're hoping can get through the Senate, the House
Speaker 2: and get signed by the President using that reconciliation process.
Speaker 4: It's a long list, and we are going to do
Speaker 4: everything we can and push the limits of what's allowable.
Speaker 4: You know, there are limitations on how it can be used,
Speaker 4: but the Democrats expanded the scope of reconciliation. They passed
Speaker 4: two major major you know, the three trillion dollars worth
Speaker 4: of new spending in two reconciliation bills, when they had
Speaker 4: unified control of the government, when they had House, Senate,
Speaker 4: White House. So they've given us a template for how
Speaker 4: to do it. Obviously, we have a very different agenda
Speaker 4: than what they wanted to do, but we're united. We
Speaker 4: want to enact all the President Trump's priorities as quickly
Speaker 4: as possible, and that deals with the border, securing the borders,
Speaker 4: it's bolstering our national defense, it's restoring American energy dominance
Speaker 4: and preventing a fourtillion dollar tax increase at the end
Speaker 4: of the year on the American people. So you know,
Speaker 4: we believe, and say Center Republicans believe, and I think
Speaker 4: the President does too. And hopefully the House will get
Speaker 4: there to make these tax cuts permanent so we don't
Speaker 4: have to go back and deal with it again down
Speaker 4: the road. But we're here. The Senates are ready to
Speaker 4: enact as much as the President's agenda as we can
Speaker 4: through budget reconciliation, and that entails all the things I
Speaker 4: just mentioned, And I hope that as we work through
Speaker 4: this process, we will be as aggressive as we possibly
Speaker 4: can to use that opportunity at a fifty one vote
Speaker 4: threshold in the Senate as opposed to sixty to get
Speaker 4: as much of the President's agenda done as possible.
Speaker 1: What's the timeframe to get that done. We've heard a
Speaker 1: variety of different aspects out there. I heard early, Hey,
Speaker 1: we hope to get this done by Easter. When do
Speaker 1: you think these bills in particular are dealing with tax
Speaker 1: cuts and the budget will be complete? As you look
Speaker 1: at the calendar.
Speaker 4: I think it's Easter is probably ambitious, I would say,
Speaker 4: but I think that as we look at the kind
Speaker 4: of the May time frame, obviously we got a deadline
Speaker 4: that week after next March fourteenth, We've got to deal
Speaker 4: with all the craft the Democrats left us, all the
Speaker 4: pile up of spending. They didn't do any spending bills
Speaker 4: last year, and so we're up against this deadline, and
Speaker 4: we got to fund the government under the government shuts down.
Speaker 4: So that's the immediate concern. But then the reconciliation bill
Speaker 4: starts with a budget resolution. Both the House and Senate
Speaker 4: have to pass the same one, and right now we've
Speaker 4: passed budget resolutions, but they're different. But we'll have to
Speaker 4: we'll align those and then we will both act on it,
Speaker 4: and then that creates that unlocks afiliation. The reconciliation is
Speaker 4: another separate, big piece of legislation, and so it's really
Speaker 4: kind of a two step process, and it takes some time.
Speaker 4: And these are complicated issues. I mean, the President wants
Speaker 4: some things done in tax policy. We got a lot
Speaker 4: of Senators and House members who want to see things
Speaker 4: done in tax policy that are different than what's in
Speaker 4: front of us. In terms of just, you know, a
Speaker 4: strict extension of the current bill or the current tax policy.
Speaker 4: But there are all these things as we move through,
Speaker 4: and these moving parts, and ultimately I tell people when
Speaker 4: they ask me, can you do this? Can you do that?
Speaker 4: Then in the end, it really comes down to the
Speaker 4: two numbers that matter, two eighteen and fifty one. You
Speaker 4: got to have two eighteen in the House. You got
Speaker 4: to have a simple majority there, and even under reconciliation,
Speaker 4: we still have to have fifty one goal to the Senate.
Speaker 4: So that's the math of it, and as we think
Speaker 4: through what we can do and can't do, it's a
Speaker 4: function of trying to figure out how do we get
Speaker 4: this thing in a shape and whatever this bill looks
Speaker 4: like that it can secure the necessary two hundred and
Speaker 4: eighteen in the House and fifty one Senate we're.
Speaker 1: Talking to set a majority. Leader John Thune, what do
Speaker 1: you expect tonight? Let's shift gears to Trump's address tonight.
Speaker 1: What do you expect to hear from the president? What
Speaker 1: should our listeners expect to hear, and what sort of
Speaker 1: reception do you expect to see from Democrats? I was
Speaker 1: reading this morning that they're planning all sorts potentially of
Speaker 1: outrageous and outlandish disruptions during the midst of this speech. Potentially,
Speaker 1: what do you expect, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean I think they will. The Democrats are I mean,
Speaker 4: they're still in the stages of grief and they're really idle.
Speaker 4: They they're trying to find a message, They're trying to
Speaker 4: get some traction with something, and so far all it
Speaker 4: is is whatever he's for, I'm going to be against.
Speaker 4: I think that you know, Democrats right now are afflicted
Speaker 4: with a really really bad case of Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 4: And so my assumption is that when they come tonight,
Speaker 4: they're going to try and be disruptive. And but you know,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I think American people
Speaker 4: that's not what they want to see. I don't think
Speaker 4: they want to see a bunch of lefty ideologues who
Speaker 4: can't even bring themselves to vote to keep boys out
Speaker 4: of girls sports, you know, creating a ruckus and disruptive
Speaker 4: to the President of the United States, who I think
Speaker 4: will be there to talk about after four years of
Speaker 4: you know, rising costs laws and at the southern border,
Speaker 4: weakening of America on the world stage, and be talking
Speaker 4: about turning the page and get our country back on track.
Speaker 4: And I think it's a The President has a great
Speaker 4: opportunity to present to the American people how things are
Speaker 4: going to be in his second term, in what his
Speaker 4: priorities are relative to the last four years under Biden.
Speaker 4: And you can just look already at what they've done
Speaker 4: at the southern border, I mean, the top issue in
Speaker 4: the last election, and this administration has been returning ordered
Speaker 4: a short amount of time. Think about the month of February.
Speaker 4: There were a few of the nine thousand crossings at
Speaker 4: the southern border under Trump. That was a typical day
Speaker 4: under Biden. I mean, this is this is how dramatically
Speaker 4: things have changed already as a result of President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 4: And we want to be good partners for him and
Speaker 4: do as much as we can to get his agenda
Speaker 4: across the finish line, which is why we worked really
Speaker 4: hard to get his cabinet confirmed as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4: So it's I expect, you know, he got a decisive
Speaker 4: mandates in the American people November, and I think he's
Speaker 4: going to be talking about not only what he's already done,
Speaker 4: but what he's going to do in the four years
Speaker 4: he has available to him to really change the direction
Speaker 4: of this country in a way that gets it back
Speaker 4: on track.
Speaker 2: Majority Leader Thuon appreciate you making the time for us
Speaker 2: on Clay and Buck. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Thanks Clay, Thanks Block, talk to you fine out.
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Speaker 2: We are joined by Uncle Bill, very exciting Bill O'Reilly,
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Speaker 2: too many to read off on radio. But the last
Speaker 2: one was confronting the Presidents, and you all know the
Speaker 2: Killing series very well. He's also got the Three Americans
Speaker 2: tour on kicking off of March thirtieth in Long Island.
Speaker 2: So Bill tell us, let's let's jump into this actually,
Speaker 2: because this was news to Clay into me. It sounds
Speaker 2: like it's going to be a lot of fun. You
Speaker 2: Steven A and Chris Cuomo all under one roof, all
Speaker 2: talking to the folks.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys got to get out. I got tickets
Speaker 3: for you if you want to make the check up
Speaker 3: to Long Island. It's an experiment. It's my production company,
Speaker 3: and as you may know, I produced the History tour
Speaker 3: with the Donald Trump, the Dennis Miller O'Reilly shows. We
Speaker 3: had we got a big operation that does live stuff,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, I wonder if we could
Speaker 3: put three really different guys together on stage and draw
Speaker 3: a crowd that is dissimilar because today everybody's talking to
Speaker 3: the choir, you know. And so I put this tour together.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a blast. I mean, the show
Speaker 3: is going to be fabulous. And we'll have heavy securities
Speaker 3: overalls break out in the uh in the audience. We'll
Speaker 3: be able to get that under control fast. But I'm
Speaker 3: looking forward to it. You guys may have seen stephen
Speaker 3: A and Quomo and me on News Nation. We will
Speaker 3: be on tonight on the pre Trump speech. So it's
Speaker 3: a good crew those guys are you know. I see
Speaker 3: it differently than they do, but we all have a
Speaker 3: sense of humor and we're respectful.
Speaker 1: Built appreciate you coming on. I'm super intrigued to see
Speaker 1: how this conversation goes. I'm curious on this. How would
Speaker 1: you assess stephen A's motivations because for much of his
Speaker 1: career he was a straight sports guy, and not to
Speaker 1: say that he didn't have interest elsewhere, but he didn't
Speaker 1: really step aggressively into the political arena. I would say
Speaker 1: he's been on with me, We've done some conversations last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Suddenly that has changed substantially. Now maybe
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, twenty twenty four, it's just kind
Speaker 1: of impossible to avoid the political arena. But to a
Speaker 1: large extent, he had tried to avoid it. Why do
Speaker 1: you think he's changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Terry Bradshaw avoids it. So you know, look, he's
Speaker 3: fifty seven years old, he's a very very smart guy.
Speaker 3: He's at the top of the heap for sports. How
Speaker 3: many you know Cleveland Cavalier games, can you call? I
Speaker 3: mean so I think he's a little bored with it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he has an opportunity into public affairs, public policy because
Speaker 3: he's so recognizable and articulate, and he's taken advantage of that,
Speaker 3: and this happened before people have, you know, melded sports
Speaker 3: with news, and I think it's a smart move on
Speaker 3: his part. And he's so articulate that now the Washington
Speaker 3: Post and all these people going, well, maybe Steven o
Speaker 3: will run for president because the Democratic Party don't have anybody,
Speaker 3: doesn't have anybody who run for president in four years,
Speaker 3: so maybe it'll be Stephen A. And I told him
Speaker 3: on the air, I said, that's because of Trump. Trump
Speaker 3: opened up the presidency for everybody, and so Steve and
Speaker 3: A has got a lot of traction with all this.
Speaker 3: And we'll see what he's got on March thirtieth, you know,
Speaker 3: because he's coming up against me.
Speaker 2: Bill, if I could direct your attention here for a second,
Speaker 2: I'm really curious what you're taking is on all this
Speaker 2: tariff stuff. We haven't really dove into it yet today
Speaker 2: on the show. I mean we mentioned at the top,
Speaker 2: but we haven't really done our full segment on it.
Speaker 2: So just by way of a prep and everybody, what
Speaker 2: you're going to say, you got Justin Trudeau who's talking
Speaker 2: tough and saying that Trump wants to take over all
Speaker 2: of Canada destroy their economy. Mexico tariffs, China tariffs, Canada tariffs,
Speaker 2: all this stuff. What do you make of this whole thing,
Speaker 2: because I think it's tough to keep up with a
Speaker 2: lot of the arguments and a lot of the specifics.
Speaker 3: Well, I know exactly what's going on because on January
Speaker 3: tewod I sat in a cabinet meeting with President Trump
Speaker 3: and six advisors and they discussed tarts, So I know
Speaker 3: what's going on there. It's risky and stock markets down significantly.
Speaker 3: People don't really understand what tariffs are. With Mexico. You're
Speaker 3: basically saying you've better knock it off or we're going
Speaker 3: to break your economy. And I understand that, and I
Speaker 3: support that. Canada little bit different. I'm not sure what
Speaker 3: the iyre is now. In the cabbinet meeting that I attended,
Speaker 3: and that was at President Trump's invitation, there wasn't a
Speaker 3: clear definition of why Canada and certain EU countries are
Speaker 3: going to be punished by terms. The overarch is that
Speaker 3: all of these countries take advantage of the United States economically,
Speaker 3: which is true, so we buy a lot more gear
Speaker 3: from them than they buy from US, and their governments
Speaker 3: make it difficult for US to sell American products in
Speaker 3: a lot of these countries. That really torques Trump off.
Speaker 3: He wants that to go away, but in the meantime
Speaker 3: he risks higher prices, and that'll be disaster for him
Speaker 3: if that happens. And you know, the trade wars a retaliation.
Speaker 3: Little Justin Trudeau is out strutting around tonight today about
Speaker 3: what we're going to do X, Y and Z. I
Speaker 3: expect this will all calm down, but there is damage
Speaker 3: being done to the economy now. And I believe President
Speaker 3: Trump knows that he's a gambler. He wants better deals.
Speaker 3: But you've got to watch this on an almost hourly basis.
Speaker 1: Bill, I agree with you on tariffs. We'll get into
Speaker 1: that a little bit on the show. But how would
Speaker 1: you analyze what happened Friday with Zolensky. You've known Trump
Speaker 1: for a long time. I would even bet that sometimes
Speaker 1: you may have gotten a little bit heated with President
Speaker 1: Trump yourself over different perspectives that you guys may have gotten,
Speaker 1: you know, crosswise on a little bit. One thing Trump
Speaker 1: always shows is the guy doesn't hold a grudge, which
Speaker 1: is so rare in politics. It almost doesn't exist. What
Speaker 1: is going on here? What was your takeaway from Friday
Speaker 1: and the subsequent reactions to that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so again I'm right in the middle of this
Speaker 3: because I know exactly what's happening here, and you're correct.
Speaker 3: I mean, when I criticize President Trump, I get a
Speaker 3: caller at tech. I got a call in the middle
Speaker 3: of a football game at Tottenham Stadium in London in
Speaker 3: October and he was actually yelling at me, And I said,
Speaker 3: do you realize eighty thousand people are hearing this call
Speaker 3: because I had the phone on speaker because I'm in
Speaker 3: a stadium watching the Jets play the Vikings, and he's
Speaker 3: yelling at me. I don't care, You're unfair, you know
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But you know a week later
Speaker 3: then he's seeking my counsel, and you're right. He's not
Speaker 3: a vindictive man when it's policy. When it gets personal, though,
Speaker 3: watch out now, Zeliski has not into the personal realm.
Speaker 3: So don't be surprised if tonight some deals annouced or
Speaker 3: a few days from now, and then the Big Z
Speaker 3: will be the greatest guy, because that's what Trump does.
Speaker 3: If he wins and you give him what he wants,
Speaker 3: then you are the greatest guy. And we've seen it
Speaker 3: time and time and time again. Now was Alenski. He's immature,
Speaker 3: That's number one. Everybody listening to Clay and Buck has
Speaker 3: got to know that he's immature. And by that I
Speaker 3: mean that he doesn't he's not able to control his emotions.
Speaker 3: And if you're not able to control your emotions, you're immature.
Speaker 3: So he walks into the White House and he's all
Speaker 3: set to sign this deal. He had breakfast with eleven
Speaker 3: senators at the head I'ms hotel in DC. I knew
Speaker 3: about that, and this would drove me crazy when it
Speaker 3: storry broke and the pundits go out and said it
Speaker 3: was a setup. Remember that. Yeah, I knew that was
Speaker 3: a lie, and I knew that anybody doing any research
Speaker 3: on that would have found out what I found out.
Speaker 3: That there was a big breakfast eleven senators Republicans and Democrats,
Speaker 3: and there was look, just go along with Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: do not challenge him, particularly in front of the press.
Speaker 3: That was the invite. Every single senator gave him the
Speaker 3: same advice, and he didn't take it because he got emotional.
Speaker 3: And I understand that his country is suffering. I believe
Speaker 3: that Zelenski wants to do well by his country. I
Speaker 3: believe he's a corrupt midget or whatever they call him.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that, But I don't think he's at
Speaker 3: the status right now where he understands the big picture.
Speaker 3: He's immature and he will not accept the fact that
Speaker 3: Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Period. They cannot win. No matter
Speaker 3: how many billions of dollars we send them and US
Speaker 3: sends them, they can't win. So you want this to
Speaker 3: go on add infinitum. Then you strut around, you want
Speaker 3: to settle it. You're going to have to give up
Speaker 3: a little bit of territory, maybe eight to nine percent
Speaker 3: of your country.
Speaker 1: It's Bill, can I ask you? Because I think this
Speaker 1: is really important.
Speaker 2: The people that you know, you've said, you've articulated this well.
Speaker 2: Clay and I have talked about this. We you meet Clay,
Speaker 2: we all see this in the same way, which is
Speaker 2: I think just reality based. The opposition to this, Is
Speaker 2: it just opposition to Trump getting a win? Is it
Speaker 2: just the emotions of supporting Ukraine and putting a little
Speaker 2: flag on your Facebook page. It's too exciting for people
Speaker 2: to give up because it seems to me, if Ukraine
Speaker 2: can't win, and if we don't want to keep paying
Speaker 2: for this for years, ad infinitum, as, you say, what
Speaker 2: is the alternative to what Trump is trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: Look, when you see a guy like Murphy the Senator
Speaker 3: go out and say what he said about Trump is,
Speaker 3: you know, part of the Kremlin or whatever. Ukraine has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with that. Murphy is going out saying
Speaker 3: this is what Murphy is saying. I want to destroy
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and I'm going to use anything and everything
Speaker 3: to try to do that. Murphy doesn't know anything about Ukraine.
Speaker 3: He has no solution to it. I mean, if if
Speaker 3: Murphy sat across from me to you guys, know, what
Speaker 3: would happen? Remember Barney Frank, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I do all right?
Speaker 3: I mean I would It would take me three minutes
Speaker 3: to reduce him to a puddle because he doesn't know anything.
Speaker 3: But he uses this and so to many others to
Speaker 3: try to destroy Trump. Not about Ukraine, it's about getting Trump.
Speaker 1: I mean that is just.
Speaker 2: So cynical, even for Democrats. You got people just in
Speaker 2: a meat grinder, dying in huge numbers on pok.
Speaker 3: Side, calm Murphy up, get him on tomorrow and.
Speaker 4: Say we'll come on.
Speaker 1: You're right about this, come on. Of course he won't
Speaker 1: come on. None of these guys will come on and
Speaker 1: actually answer questions, because, to your point, we would slice
Speaker 1: and dice him to such an extent that that they
Speaker 1: would be done.
Speaker 3: You have to think about it. All you have to
Speaker 3: do is ask one question, what's the alternative? How would
Speaker 3: you settle this? And it's quiet and that Dana Cash
Speaker 3: on CNN. I used to respect her, She's the one
Speaker 3: that put him on and she didn't even ask him
Speaker 3: that question. By the way, Bill is going down to dream.
Speaker 3: That's why nobody watches it.
Speaker 1: No, they have totally and completely collapsed. Question for you
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with all the serious things
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were over in London watching a
Speaker 1: football game. I've done that to pretty fun, actual American football,
Speaker 1: not soccer. Where should Aaron Rodgers go? And what if
Speaker 1: he called you for advice instead of President Trump? What
Speaker 1: would you tell him this to do? There's talk that
Speaker 1: he's going to go to the Giants.
Speaker 3: Now, no, he's not going to Giants. Yeah, he's through
Speaker 3: in New York. If I were mister Rogers, who does
Speaker 3: have some skills left. You've got to go to a
Speaker 3: team that can protect you, and I probably would look
Speaker 3: at some of the West Coast teams. He lives in Malibu,
Speaker 3: which is not a great place to live right now
Speaker 3: unless you have giant fire retardants.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I would.
Speaker 3: You know, I would probably go to Vegas because Brady
Speaker 3: owns it, part of it. That's where I probably go.
Speaker 3: You take a couple of guys with you from the
Speaker 3: Jets receivers, and you pray that the Raider offensive line
Speaker 3: can keep you upstanding. You know, you've got four seconds
Speaker 3: to throw the ball. He can't move. You need four seconds.
Speaker 3: He gets four, he can throw it. So that's probably
Speaker 3: what I would do.
Speaker 1: Bill. I'm actually really curious to hear how this thing goes.
Speaker 1: We'll have to get you on with Steven A and
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo to hear how it all goes. When you guys,
Speaker 1: he is the tour for interesting? Is the tour gonna?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna do some extra cities or is it
Speaker 1: just out of Long Island? Are you gonna?
Speaker 3: I might? I might do it, And we got to
Speaker 3: see how this works. I'm shooting it, so you I'll
Speaker 3: send you some clips. We got a three camera shoot
Speaker 3: on it, and I got I gotta see because we're
Speaker 3: all very busy. And you know, look, I'm ninety five
Speaker 3: years old, drin How how long can I do this
Speaker 3: around a country business? But if it goes really well,
Speaker 3: then I'll do some other cities. But it just depends
Speaker 3: on how it shakes. So again, it's March thirtieth, Sunday,
Speaker 3: afternoon three because of the old people coming to see me,
Speaker 3: and I want to keep them up too late. And
Speaker 3: I promise this will be one of the best shows
Speaker 3: that you have ever seen. It's better than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would be their Bill, but I'm expecting a
Speaker 2: baby within days of the event, so I think I
Speaker 2: gotta I gotta hugger down.
Speaker 1: But Clay has no play has he loves to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Bill. I like you, but I think
Speaker 1: i'd rather go see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: Oh you're out of your mine. You're crazy. This is
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're having a baby because my kid's best
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Speaker 3: He's six'. Five he's a lacrosse. Player but the most important,
Speaker 3: thing he's, honest and he's kind and his personality is
Speaker 3: not at all like, mine which makes him one lucky.
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Speaker 2: we had mentioned. This we'll just just spend a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes on. This then we're gonna get into the
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Speaker 1: That because twelve million more people voted For trump in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four than twenty, sixteen a lot of people
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Speaker 2: women are talking about this other woman and they're like
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Speaker 2: Now think in any social, situation in any whether you're
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Speaker 2: A trump voter or A, republican which same thing, now
Speaker 2: but in the midst they think that they're allowed to
Speaker 2: take some kind of umbrage and put you through some,
Speaker 2: interrogation whereas on the other, side it's, like, yeah you've
Speaker 2: voted For, Kamala like, sorry you don't have good, judgment
Speaker 2: but enjoy your, Burger.
Speaker 1: Like we don't. Care, yeah that's, right that's. Right and
Speaker 1: this reminds me Of Adam, carolla AND i guarantee you
Speaker 1: there's a lot of our listeners In california right now
Speaker 1: that are nodding along in a big. Way WHAT i
Speaker 1: found In corolla mentioned this on the air with Us,
Speaker 1: buck is that there are a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are working on, shows the, grips the camera, guys the set,
Speaker 1: builders who will come up and say, privately like, man
Speaker 1: thank you for what you're, saying like you nailed it. Right.
Speaker 1: Like in other, words the people standing in front of
Speaker 1: the camera oftentimes are more outspoken politically on the. LEFT
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that put these shows, on
Speaker 1: that make them physically possible are Actually trump. Supporters and
Speaker 1: the other thing about this is, Increasingly, buck a lot
Speaker 1: of people who stand in front of the camera are
Speaker 1: still kind of, hiding but they're also starting to take
Speaker 1: like that half step out where we mentioned this with like,
Speaker 1: comedians there are a lot of comedians out there that
Speaker 1: Are trump supporting. COMEDIANS a lot of the people that
Speaker 1: you watch and, like but they don't really Want AND
Speaker 1: i get. It if my job was to talk to
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of people and make them, LAUGH i
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to come out stridently necessarily on one political
Speaker 1: side of the equation or. Not IF i had. Everybody
Speaker 1: this is my argument With Michael jordan back in the
Speaker 1: Day republicans by sneakers. Too why were you not? Political,
Speaker 1: Like i'm a great basketball. Player why WOULD i want
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the population to like me less as
Speaker 1: a basketball player because of my. Politics doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense to. Me BUT i do think this is a
Speaker 1: super popular show and it is indicative of a major vibe.
Speaker 1: Shift AND i don't know how many of you watch,
Speaker 1: it BUT i guarantee, you if you're In New York
Speaker 1: city OR la media entertainment, circles this is probably the
Speaker 1: show that they watch more than any. Other and it
Speaker 1: struck me On. Sunday it's Struck buck. Two we wanted
Speaker 1: to play that for, you even if you don't watch
Speaker 1: it as what the bibeshift can feel.
Speaker 2: Like you, know you, know five years, ago or maybe
Speaker 2: even two years, ago maybe even six months, ago The
Speaker 2: trump voter in a pop culture context on AN hbo
Speaker 2: show would have been you, know, yeah, LIKE i don't know,
Speaker 2: anything BUT i just Love america and have my.
Speaker 1: Flag you, know it would have been.
Speaker 2: Mockery it would have been much more likely to be,
Speaker 2: oh aren't They they're right to be outraged that this
Speaker 2: woman voted For, trump or that you, know we're led
Speaker 2: to believe she voted For, Trump whereas now what it
Speaker 2: exposed a little more was these, libs these left wingers
Speaker 2: are living in this delusion where they don't realize that
Speaker 2: more than half the country voted For, trump and they
Speaker 2: probably know a lot of people who voted For.
Speaker 1: Trump not only that. Too some of you out there always,
Speaker 1: SAY i don't know why you watch a show LIKE
Speaker 1: i watch lots of shows where people might hate my
Speaker 1: politics BECAUSE i THINK i can appreciate somebody's talent in
Speaker 1: something while also recognizing that they may not have the
Speaker 1: same opinion as. ME i don't presume that everybody is
Speaker 1: going to think the exact same as. Me doesn't MEAN
Speaker 1: i can't like a movie or a television show or
Speaker 1: a sport for that. Matter BUT i do think that
Speaker 1: this is emblematic of a recognition that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people like you and Me buck out, There
Speaker 1: AND i bet there's a ton of women who love
Speaker 1: White lotus two that almost in, FACT i go into my,
Speaker 1: MENTIONS i, BET i bet you've had a conversation almost
Speaker 1: identical to what those three women just had at some
Speaker 1: point over the last eight. YEARS i think huge majorities
Speaker 1: of the women listening to us right now who Voted
Speaker 1: trump have had a conversation like that with their g.
Speaker 2: FRIENDS i think more women than, men speaking of women
Speaker 2: who drink too much. Chardonnay Justin trudeau here he is amazing.
Speaker 2: Transition thank. You here he is on the tariff. Issue
Speaker 2: he was In, Ottawa canada today and he's he's very.
Speaker 2: Upset he is not having a good one, here very
Speaker 2: upset with the. Tariffs and this is what he says
Speaker 2: is going to. Happen play.
Speaker 7: One they've chosen to launch a trade war that will
Speaker 7: first and foremost Harm american. Families they've chosen to sabotage
Speaker 7: their own agenda that was supposed to usher in a
Speaker 7: new golden age for The United. States and they've chosen
Speaker 7: to undermine the incredible work we've done together to tackle
Speaker 7: the scourge that is, fentanyl a drug that must be
Speaker 7: wiped from the face of the. Earth so on that,
Speaker 7: point let me be crystal, clear there is absolutely no
Speaker 7: justifiction or need whatsoever for these tariffs, Today, clay.
Speaker 2: How much of what's going? On bill O'Reilly mentioned this
Speaker 2: earlier in The hours a great. Interview go back and
Speaker 2: listen if you missed. It on the Clan buck. Podcast
Speaker 2: how much of this we Know, mexico there's there's very
Speaker 2: real national, security, fentinel economic a whole range of issues
Speaker 2: that the tariffs touch on there that we you, know
Speaker 2: that's its own set of. Things With, canada how much
Speaker 2: of this is Just trump wants to Give Justin trudeau
Speaker 2: a weggie and push him into the locker in front of.
Speaker 1: Everybody you.
Speaker 2: KNOW i wonder how much of this is driven by
Speaker 2: just Teaching trudeau a. LESSON i think it's an interesting.
Speaker 1: Question the tariff debate in general is a difficult one
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't know where the end goal actually rest
Speaker 1: Buck WHEREAS i can tell, you, Hey trump definitely wants
Speaker 1: to cease fire In, ukraine and he wants there to
Speaker 1: be peace, there and he wants peace in The Middle,
Speaker 1: east what is the sweat spot on the. TARIFF i
Speaker 1: don't have an answer on, that RIGHT i don't have
Speaker 1: a direct. Answer, obviously big picture it is we need
Speaker 1: to manufacture more goods in The United. States we need
Speaker 1: more jobs in The United. STATES i understand. That but
Speaker 1: in terms of practical, impact what is the sweet spot
Speaker 1: where he would, say, hey you know, what this is
Speaker 1: where we're getting the balance that we WANT i don't know,
Speaker 1: it and SO i think that is the more challenging
Speaker 1: aspect of. THIS i do think That trump feels That
Speaker 1: canada And mexico have taken advantage of The United states
Speaker 1: and trade agreements for some, time AND i do think
Speaker 1: he's accurate about, that and that we have, bled to
Speaker 1: a large extent a lot of our manufacturing jobs as a.
Speaker 1: RESULT i think he's correct about, that and That mexico
Speaker 1: is not doing enough to stop the flow of, fentanyl
Speaker 1: which is killing one hundred thousand people a year in
Speaker 1: The United. States all of those things. True china of
Speaker 1: facilitating that as. Well but what does success look like?
Speaker 1: There success In ukraine is no more no more were people.
Speaker 1: Dying success in The Middle east is no more. War
Speaker 1: what is success on? TARIFFS i don't. Know the answer to.
Speaker 1: That bordi of success is nobody crossing, illegally which we.
Speaker 1: GOT i think What trump wants ultimately is reciprocity from
Speaker 1: these countries because there are a lot of tariffs that
Speaker 1: they have AGAINST us. Goods and this is where people
Speaker 1: in this, argument you, know W'ERE i, Understand we're we're
Speaker 1: told by the.
Speaker 2: The economic expert industrial complex that tariffs are, attacks and
Speaker 2: tariffs are, bad and tariffs can't we won't help. Us right,
Speaker 2: there there's STILL i think a pretty broad sense of
Speaker 2: that going. On and yet why does why Does china
Speaker 2: have all these tariffs AGAINST us? Goods why Does canada
Speaker 2: have all these? Tariffs why does THE eu have all
Speaker 2: these tariffs against THE us? Goods if it's so manifestly
Speaker 2: not advantageous to have, tariffs why do these countries have
Speaker 2: them against? Us And CLAY i think that also leads
Speaker 2: to What trump wants is for them not to do.
Speaker 2: That and so by saying and this is a little
Speaker 2: bit like the trade war issue With. China from the
Speaker 2: First trump, administration people kept, saying oh, no he's going
Speaker 2: to start a trade war With. China anybody who understood
Speaker 2: THE Us china trade situation would tell.
Speaker 1: You we were already in a trade. War it's just.
Speaker 2: They were fighting it and we were getting the short
Speaker 2: end of the. Stick, so you, know instead of a
Speaker 2: one way trade, war all of a, sudden it turned
Speaker 2: into both people would were playing. Hardball SO i think
Speaker 2: that's just his baseline mentality on, this but it.
Speaker 1: Might get a little rocky. Year everyone AND i, WENT
Speaker 1: i went YESTERDAY i couldn't find any eggs in the grocery.
Speaker 1: Store have you ever see have you had that? YET
Speaker 1: i got to probably check at a, shock you. Buck
Speaker 1: BUT i do not do a great deal of shopping
Speaker 1: for The travis family when it comes to. Groceries when
Speaker 1: was the last? Time when was the last Time laura
Speaker 1: sent you solo to the grocery store for more than
Speaker 1: one or two? Things, yeah like fifteen years. AGO i,
Speaker 1: mean Like i'm gone to buy. Diapers i'm gone to
Speaker 1: buy LIKE i, mean she sends me with pictures of
Speaker 1: things THAT i need to buy on an individual. Basis
Speaker 1: BUT i don't Think i've been to the grocery store
Speaker 1: and like filled an entire grocery cart in like maybe
Speaker 1: in our entire. MARRIAGE i don't, know certainly in like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Years oh, man this is this is good, stuff all.
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