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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you are having a fabulous Tuesday. News coming, as

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Speaker 1: it often does during the Trump regime, at a rapid fashion.

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Speaker 1: We will dive into all of it here momentarily. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: Trump is also speaking tonight in front of a joint

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Speaker 1: session of Congress, a usual State of the Union, although

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Speaker 1: officially called the State of the Union, but that is

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Speaker 1: what will be going on tonight and many will be

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Speaker 1: watching to see what the President says. Let me give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of a roadmap we're headed. Senate

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Speaker 1: Majority Leader John Thune going to be on with us

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of this hour. Every single Democrat senator

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Speaker 1: voted against men being prohibited from playing in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: In other words, they support men who identify as women

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Speaker 1: being able to compete in women's sports. Every single Democrat senator.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Our friend Bill O'Reilly will join us at

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Speaker 1: the top of the next hour. That is where we

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Speaker 1: are headed. But Buck, the biggest news that is out

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Speaker 1: there in the last hour, Zelensky has decided to ben

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Speaker 1: the need to Donald Trump and beg for peace. Let

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Speaker 1: me read a little bit of what he said. I

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Speaker 1: would like This is Zelenski's Twitter account. I would like

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Speaker 1: to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us wants

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Speaker 1: in endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the

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Speaker 1: negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians. My team and

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Speaker 1: I stand ready to work under President trump strong leadership

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Speaker 1: to get a piece that lasts. We value how much

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Speaker 1: America has done. Our meeting in Washington at the White

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Speaker 1: House on Friday not go that way. It was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be regrettable that it happened this way. It's time

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Speaker 1: to make things right. We would like future cooperation and

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Speaker 1: communication to be constructive. Regarding the agreement on minerals and Security,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is ready to sign it anytime and in any

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Speaker 1: convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward

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Speaker 1: greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope

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Speaker 1: it will work effectively. All Right, Friday, the blow up, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: the apology again, that statement a little bit longer, Buck,

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Speaker 1: What do you think people should take from this situation

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Speaker 1: that we are currently in with Ukraine? And where do

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Speaker 1: we go from here?

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Speaker 2: Well, Trump is doing what he does, which is a

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Speaker 2: non traditional approach to try to solve problems.

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Speaker 1: And I think that.

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Speaker 2: The people who have at every step of the every

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Speaker 2: step of the way question came under him said he's crazy,

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Speaker 2: he said he's a dictator, are doing what they always do,

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Speaker 2: which is more of that. When you look at what

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Speaker 2: has already occurred, it does seem to be that Trump

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Speaker 2: is using the leverage that he should use on issues

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Speaker 2: that matter to get us to a better resolution. All

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Speaker 2: that really counts, and this is contra the diplomacy, State Department,

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Speaker 2: Foreign policy consensus mindset. All that really matters is the results, right,

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Speaker 2: All that really matters is when something happens in response

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Speaker 2: to a decision, an action and agreement that Trump has taken.

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Speaker 2: How we get there, I think is far less important.

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Speaker 2: And so, yes, was it a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: surprise to see that dust up in the Oval office?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Do I think that Zelensky was the one who instigated it? Largely? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And now are we back in a place where Zelenski

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Speaker 1: First time around? Yes?

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Speaker 2: So that to me indicates that Trump is on the

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Speaker 2: is the good guy, Russia is the bad guy, are

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Speaker 2: being forced to justify in public, what exactly is your

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Speaker 2: plan if this war goes on for another five years?

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Speaker 2: In what way is Ukraine in a better position then

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Speaker 2: than they are in now? Russia has more men, more material,

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Speaker 2: more North Korean troops, I might add, pouring in. Russia

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Speaker 2: we refuse to do that. That is our redline. So

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Speaker 2: how is Ukraine going to be in a better position

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Speaker 2: Trump knows that. So we're trying to get to where

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Speaker 2: we are with the deal now, Clay, if the negotiations

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Speaker 2: there's no reason to believe that the option that the

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Speaker 1: Look where we are right now, and my wife has

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Speaker 1: talking about it. I do think that the United States

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Speaker 1: has created much of this mess, meaning the invasion, the

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Speaker 1: battles over territory, and all that's happening now is Trump

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Speaker 1: back to the agreement when Ukraine gave up their nukes,

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Speaker 1: there was some form of protection agreement entered into and

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Speaker 1: Ukraine took it as the United States won't let Russia invadas.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Obama did not take it that way. Biden did

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Speaker 1: the United States is not blameless here. We want to

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Speaker 1: be saying, oh Slava Ukraine. Ukraine is the hero and

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Speaker 1: Russia is the villain. America is not coming to this

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Speaker 1: situation with clean hands. We have, in many ways created,

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Speaker 1: My concern, Buck is, now we're moving into okay, what

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Speaker 1: does the negotiated piece look like? What does a ceasefire

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Speaker 1: wherever the lines are drawn now where the stellmate has

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Speaker 2: Are There's some very fundamental questions here that I think

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Speaker 1: Do we care enough?

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Speaker 2: Do we as Americans care enough about who's in control

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Speaker 2: of twenty five percent or so fifteen twenty percent of

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Speaker 2: Ukraine that we're willing to lose American soldiers and spend billions,

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Speaker 2: perhaps even trillions of dollars, never mind the possibility of

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Speaker 2: a nuclear nuclear exchange, which is the euphemism, of course

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Speaker 2: which would be horrifying. Are we willing to do those things? No,

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Speaker 2: all just I think a recognition that there's going to

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Speaker 2: because it's not a NATO country, and because we don't

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Speaker 2: the money and materil and training and everything else that

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Speaker 2: It's terrible how much life has been lost here. You

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Speaker 2: brought up Clay, and this is true. You go back

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Speaker 2: to the you know, the Maidan and Yanakovich and the

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Speaker 2: And you'll notice that no one even talks anymore about

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Speaker 2: we just want this whole thing to end. I think

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Speaker 2: there's tremendous frustration with it. I think it also Clay

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Speaker 2: comes out of fighting in multiple decades long counterinsurgency g

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Speaker 2: What did we get in Afghanistan? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: That's a really tough one to answer. What did we

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Speaker 2: Even isn't it funny? Afghanistan was the good war. We

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Speaker 2: and military interventions and say, have we learned the lesson Clay?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's Trump's fundamental guiding

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Speaker 1: Do you think we have? I'm not sure that we

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Speaker 1: have that we haven't. Actually, I think that's a very

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Speaker 1: of people still who think, oh, no, you don't understand

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if they've just been playing too

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Speaker 2: more involved in. I do not care who is in

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Speaker 2: charge of CRIMEA, meaning I do not care enough that

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Speaker 2: I want to sacrifice a single American or any American

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Speaker 2: interest for CRIMEA. For Don bas or Lahnsk and Donetsk.

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Speaker 2: In these places, I do not care. Now that doesn't

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: But Clay, I care about the suffering the people in

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about with this man. The Senate

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Speaker 1: majority leader from South Dakota, John Thune. Appreciate him joining

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Speaker 1: us right now. Big night on Capitol Hill with Trump

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Speaker 1: addressing Congress. We'll get to that in a moment, but Senator,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time. I wanted to start with this.

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Speaker 1: I still can't believe this is real. Every single Democrat

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Speaker 1: And given the fact that seventy nine percent of Americans

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Speaker 4: Right? Well, you get good question, guys. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: We had a vote on it last night, and you

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Speaker 4: I think they did there was no lesson learned from

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Speaker 1: What can you say, Senator Thune when they vote against it? Though?

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Speaker 2: Are they claiming publicly? I'm just wondering because this has

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's really honestly the substance

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Speaker 4: It's really very straightforward. And you know, I mean, and

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Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, this is again I had

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Speaker 1: We're talking to. Senator John Thune, explain to us, because

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Speaker 1: The House passed it only two I believe Democrats voted

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Speaker 1: But you needed to get to sixty. Why explain that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's hard. It's an inside baseball thing here.

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Speaker 4: It's unique to the United States Senate. But under our

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Speaker 4: and I know that's for most Americans. Everybody's like, well,

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Speaker 4: it isn't fifty one a majority of the Senate. The

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Speaker 2: So what can you hopefully get done through that reconciliation process?

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Speaker 2: We think they're doing great things. Of course, we all

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Speaker 2: and we don't have a super majority. So Senator Thun,

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Speaker 4: It's a long list, and we are going to do

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Speaker 4: You know, there are limitations on how it can be used,

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Speaker 4: but the Democrats expanded the scope of reconciliation. They passed

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Speaker 4: through budget reconciliation, and that entails all the things I

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Speaker 4: can to use that opportunity at a fifty one vote

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Speaker 1: What's the timeframe to get that done. We've heard a

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Speaker 4: I think it's Easter is probably ambitious, I would say,

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Speaker 4: we got to fund the government under the government shuts down.

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Speaker 4: So that's the immediate concern. But then the reconciliation bill

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Speaker 4: passed budget resolutions, but they're different. But we'll have to

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Speaker 4: But there are all these things as we move through,

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Speaker 1: Talking to set a majority. Leader John Thune, what do

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Speaker 1: What do you expect to hear from the president? What

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Speaker 1: what do you expect, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I think they will. The Democrats are I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, Democrats right now are afflicted

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Speaker 4: And I think it's a The President has a great

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Speaker 4: And you can just look already at what they've done

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Speaker 4: things have changed already as a result of President Trump's leadership.

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Speaker 4: And we want to be good partners for him and

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Speaker 4: So it's I expect, you know, he got a decisive

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Speaker 2: Majority Leader Thuon appreciate you making the time for us

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Speaker 2: So Bill tell us, let's let's jump into this actually,

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Speaker 2: because this was news to Clay into me. It sounds

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys got to get out. I got tickets

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Speaker 3: for you if you want to make the check up

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Speaker 3: to Long Island. It's an experiment. It's my production company,

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Speaker 3: and as you may know, I produced the History tour

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Speaker 3: and I said, you know, I wonder if we could

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a blast. I mean, the show

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Speaker 3: is going to be fabulous. And we'll have heavy securities

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Speaker 3: overalls break out in the uh in the audience. We'll

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Speaker 3: looking forward to it. You guys may have seen stephen

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Speaker 3: a good crew those guys are you know. I see

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Speaker 1: Built appreciate you coming on. I'm super intrigued to see

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Speaker 1: how this conversation goes. I'm curious on this. How would

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Speaker 1: you assess stephen A's motivations because for much of his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Terry Bradshaw avoids it. So you know, look, he's

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Speaker 3: He's at the top of the heap for sports. How

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Speaker 3: he has an opportunity into public affairs, public policy because

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Speaker 3: so maybe it'll be Stephen A. And I told him

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Speaker 3: And we'll see what he's got on March thirtieth, you know,

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Speaker 2: Bill, if I could direct your attention here for a second,

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Speaker 2: I'm really curious what you're taking is on all this

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Speaker 2: tariff stuff. We haven't really dove into it yet today

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Speaker 3: Well, I know exactly what's going on because on January

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Speaker 3: tewod I sat in a cabinet meeting with President Trump

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Speaker 3: People don't really understand what tariffs are. With Mexico. You're

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Speaker 3: going to be punished by terms. The overarch is that

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Speaker 3: all of these countries take advantage of the United States economically,

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Speaker 3: which is true, so we buy a lot more gear

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Speaker 3: a lot of these countries. That really torques Trump off.

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Speaker 3: if that happens. And you know, the trade wars a retaliation.

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Speaker 3: Little Justin Trudeau is out strutting around tonight today about

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Speaker 3: what we're going to do X, Y and Z. I

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Speaker 3: expect this will all calm down, but there is damage

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Speaker 3: being done to the economy now. And I believe President

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Speaker 3: Trump knows that he's a gambler. He wants better deals.

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Speaker 3: But you've got to watch this on an almost hourly basis.

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Speaker 1: Bill, I agree with you on tariffs. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: that a little bit on the show. But how would

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Speaker 1: you analyze what happened Friday with Zolensky. You've known Trump

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I would even bet that sometimes

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Speaker 1: you may have gotten a little bit heated with President

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Speaker 1: Trump yourself over different perspectives that you guys may have gotten,

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Speaker 1: you know, crosswise on a little bit. One thing Trump

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Speaker 1: always shows is the guy doesn't hold a grudge, which

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Speaker 1: is so rare in politics. It almost doesn't exist. What

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Speaker 1: and the subsequent reactions to that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so again I'm right in the middle of this

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Speaker 3: because I know exactly what's happening here, and you're correct.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when I criticize President Trump, I get a

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Speaker 3: of a football game at Tottenham Stadium in London in

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Speaker 3: October and he was actually yelling at me, And I said,

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Speaker 3: do you realize eighty thousand people are hearing this call

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Speaker 3: because I had the phone on speaker because I'm in

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Speaker 3: a stadium watching the Jets play the Vikings, and he's

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Speaker 3: yelling at me. I don't care, You're unfair, you know

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But you know a week later

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Speaker 3: then he's seeking my counsel, and you're right. He's not

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Speaker 3: a vindictive man when it's policy. When it gets personal, though,

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Speaker 3: watch out now, Zeliski has not into the personal realm.

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Speaker 3: So don't be surprised if tonight some deals annouced or

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Speaker 3: a few days from now, and then the Big Z

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Speaker 3: will be the greatest guy, because that's what Trump does.

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Speaker 3: If he wins and you give him what he wants,

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Speaker 3: then you are the greatest guy. And we've seen it

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Speaker 3: time and time and time again. Now was Alenski. He's immature,

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Speaker 3: That's number one. Everybody listening to Clay and Buck has

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Speaker 3: got to know that he's immature. And by that I

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Speaker 3: mean that he doesn't he's not able to control his emotions.

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Speaker 3: And if you're not able to control your emotions, you're immature.

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Speaker 3: So he walks into the White House and he's all

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Speaker 3: set to sign this deal. He had breakfast with eleven

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Speaker 3: senators at the head I'ms hotel in DC. I knew

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Speaker 3: about that, and this would drove me crazy when it

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Speaker 3: storry broke and the pundits go out and said it

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Speaker 3: was a setup. Remember that. Yeah, I knew that was

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Speaker 3: a lie, and I knew that anybody doing any research

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Speaker 3: on that would have found out what I found out.

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Speaker 3: That there was a big breakfast eleven senators Republicans and Democrats,

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Speaker 3: and there was look, just go along with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: do not challenge him, particularly in front of the press.

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Speaker 3: That was the invite. Every single senator gave him the

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Speaker 3: same advice, and he didn't take it because he got emotional.

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Speaker 3: And I understand that his country is suffering. I believe

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Speaker 3: that Zelenski wants to do well by his country. I

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Speaker 3: believe he's a corrupt midget or whatever they call him.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that, But I don't think he's at

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Speaker 3: the status right now where he understands the big picture.

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Speaker 3: He's immature and he will not accept the fact that

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Speaker 3: Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Period. They cannot win. No matter

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Speaker 3: how many billions of dollars we send them and US

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Speaker 3: sends them, they can't win. So you want this to

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Speaker 3: go on add infinitum. Then you strut around, you want

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Speaker 3: to settle it. You're going to have to give up

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Speaker 3: a little bit of territory, maybe eight to nine percent

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Speaker 3: of your country.

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Speaker 1: It's Bill, can I ask you? Because I think this

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Speaker 1: is really important.

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Speaker 2: The people that you know, you've said, you've articulated this well.

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Speaker 2: Clay and I have talked about this. We you meet Clay,

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Speaker 2: we all see this in the same way, which is

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Speaker 2: I think just reality based. The opposition to this, Is

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Speaker 2: it just opposition to Trump getting a win? Is it

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Speaker 2: just the emotions of supporting Ukraine and putting a little

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Speaker 2: flag on your Facebook page. It's too exciting for people

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Speaker 2: to give up because it seems to me, if Ukraine

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Speaker 2: can't win, and if we don't want to keep paying

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Speaker 2: for this for years, ad infinitum, as, you say, what

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Speaker 2: is the alternative to what Trump is trying to accomplish?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Look, when you see a guy like Murphy the Senator

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Speaker 3: go out and say what he said about Trump is,

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Speaker 3: you know, part of the Kremlin or whatever. Ukraine has

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with that. Murphy is going out saying

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Speaker 3: this is what Murphy is saying. I want to destroy

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and I'm going to use anything and everything

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Speaker 3: to try to do that. Murphy doesn't know anything about Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: He has no solution to it. I mean, if if

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Speaker 3: Murphy sat across from me to you guys, know, what

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Speaker 3: would happen? Remember Barney Frank, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I do all right?

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Speaker 3: I mean I would It would take me three minutes

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Speaker 3: to reduce him to a puddle because he doesn't know anything.

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Speaker 3: But he uses this and so to many others to

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Speaker 3: try to destroy Trump. Not about Ukraine, it's about getting Trump.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is just.

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Speaker 2: So cynical, even for Democrats. You got people just in

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Speaker 2: a meat grinder, dying in huge numbers on pok.

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Speaker 3: Side, calm Murphy up, get him on tomorrow and.

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Speaker 4: Say we'll come on.

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Speaker 1: You're right about this, come on. Of course he won't

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Speaker 1: come on. None of these guys will come on and

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Speaker 1: actually answer questions, because, to your point, we would slice

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Speaker 1: and dice him to such an extent that that they

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Speaker 1: would be done.

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Speaker 3: You have to think about it. All you have to

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Speaker 3: do is ask one question, what's the alternative? How would

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Speaker 3: you settle this? And it's quiet and that Dana Cash

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Speaker 3: on CNN. I used to respect her, She's the one

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Speaker 3: that put him on and she didn't even ask him

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Speaker 3: that question. By the way, Bill is going down to dream.

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Speaker 3: That's why nobody watches it.

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Speaker 1: No, they have totally and completely collapsed. Question for you

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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with all the serious things

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Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were over in London watching a

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Speaker 1: football game. I've done that to pretty fun, actual American football,

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Speaker 1: not soccer. Where should Aaron Rodgers go? And what if

752
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Speaker 1: he called you for advice instead of President Trump? What

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Speaker 1: would you tell him this to do? There's talk that

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Speaker 1: he's going to go to the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Now, no, he's not going to Giants. Yeah, he's through

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Speaker 3: in New York. If I were mister Rogers, who does

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Speaker 3: have some skills left. You've got to go to a

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Speaker 3: team that can protect you, and I probably would look

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Speaker 3: at some of the West Coast teams. He lives in Malibu,

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Speaker 3: which is not a great place to live right now

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Speaker 3: unless you have giant fire retardants.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I would.

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Speaker 3: You know, I would probably go to Vegas because Brady

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Speaker 3: owns it, part of it. That's where I probably go.

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Speaker 3: You take a couple of guys with you from the

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Speaker 3: Jets receivers, and you pray that the Raider offensive line

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Speaker 3: can keep you upstanding. You know, you've got four seconds

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Speaker 3: to throw the ball. He can't move. You need four seconds.

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Speaker 3: He gets four, he can throw it. So that's probably

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Speaker 3: what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Bill. I'm actually really curious to hear how this thing goes.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to get you on with Steven A and

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Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo to hear how it all goes. When you guys,

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Speaker 1: he is the tour for interesting? Is the tour gonna?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna do some extra cities or is it

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Speaker 1: just out of Long Island? Are you gonna?

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Speaker 3: I might? I might do it, And we got to

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Speaker 3: see how this works. I'm shooting it, so you I'll

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Speaker 3: send you some clips. We got a three camera shoot

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Speaker 3: on it, and I got I gotta see because we're

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Speaker 3: all very busy. And you know, look, I'm ninety five

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Speaker 3: years old, drin How how long can I do this

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Speaker 3: around a country business? But if it goes really well,

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Speaker 3: then I'll do some other cities. But it just depends

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Speaker 3: on how it shakes. So again, it's March thirtieth, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: afternoon three because of the old people coming to see me,

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Speaker 3: and I want to keep them up too late. And

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Speaker 3: I promise this will be one of the best shows

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Speaker 2: Okay, I would be their Bill, but I'm expecting a

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Speaker 1: But Clay has no play has he loves to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. Bill. I like you, but I think

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00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Independent But davis an? Independent since when you did not

865
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: vote For? Trump, though did? You are we really going

866
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: to talk About trump? TONIGHT i just love this same.

867
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: BUCK i have had versions of. That this like that

868
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: is exactly how it. Goes The libs keep digging, in

869
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: digging a little. More they're a little, outrage but they

870
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: want that. Reassurance, wait, wait, Wait i've BEEN i Mean

871
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: i've been on first dates where it was like, that

872
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: except it was, wait you you work For Glenn? Beck like,

873
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: That Glen, beck what do you do you like? Guns

874
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: And i'm, like, yes That's Glenn beck AND i love.

875
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: Guns and that was the. End there was no second.

876
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: DATE i bet there are hundreds of thousands of people

877
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: out there listening to us right, now maybe even, millions

878
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: that have had a conversation that is very similar to.

879
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: That because twelve million more people voted For trump in

880
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four than twenty, sixteen a lot of people

881
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: have come on board The trump. Train AND i think

882
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: women in particular probably are responding to that because you

883
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: got THE la and let me say this. Book this

884
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: is WHY i think this is. Significant this is probably

885
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: the most popular show for entertainment people IN la And New.

886
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: York would you guess like everybody in the entertainment industry

887
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: in those two cities watching this, show and they aren't

888
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: playing Now, Austin texas not THE i think a lot

889
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: of you out there are Like. Austin they.

890
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Should she should have been From dallas Or. Houston austin

891
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: would Be that did throw you. Off, yeah but, again

892
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: the vibe reed is not. Perfect but WHAT i thought

893
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: was interesting is and there's a later scene where the

894
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: women are talking about this other woman and they're like

895
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: gossiping about.

896
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Her how in the world could she be Voting? Trump

897
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: they're not playing The trump voter as the cheap, laughs

898
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: stupid redneck un.

899
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Intel they're not going they're not Going Tom hanks FROM

900
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: snl that's right where he really he really just it

901
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: was unfunny and took cheap shots in. It they're not

902
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: even it's just pathetic because the cheap shots don't even.

903
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: Land and it just showed that he's living in some

904
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: alternate political. Reality but, no that's that's what's so interesting

905
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: is is The trump voter. Woman if you watch this,

906
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: scene you, know all through the women are, like you,

907
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: know they're very, attractive they're very well. Dressed, Right so

908
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: there's no. Wealthy they're very wealthy educated. Women but The

909
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: trump voter is the most at least in this. Exchange,

910
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: now there's more episodes to. Common for all we, know

911
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: she could have like a pill addiction and be. Crazy you,

912
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: know this is you being the. Killer they could still you,

913
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: know the awful Deranged trump.

914
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Supporter but but the way they nailed the they nailed

915
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: the dynamic of democrats for a long. Time.

916
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: Now think in any social, situation in any whether you're

917
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: in the, workplace whether you're at a you, know a friends,

918
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: barbecue a cocktail, party if they are surprised to find

919
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: A trump voter or A, republican which same thing, now

920
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: but in the midst they think that they're allowed to

921
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: take some kind of umbrage and put you through some,

922
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: interrogation whereas on the other, side it's, like, yeah you've

923
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: voted For, Kamala like, sorry you don't have good, judgment

924
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: but enjoy your, Burger.

925
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Like we don't. Care, yeah that's, right that's. Right and

926
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: this reminds me Of Adam, carolla AND i guarantee you

927
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: there's a lot of our listeners In california right now

928
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: that are nodding along in a big. Way WHAT i

929
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: found In corolla mentioned this on the air with Us,

930
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: buck is that there are a lot of people who

931
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: are working on, shows the, grips the camera, guys the set,

932
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: builders who will come up and say, privately like, man

933
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: thank you for what you're, saying like you nailed it. Right.

934
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: Like in other, words the people standing in front of

935
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: the camera oftentimes are more outspoken politically on the. LEFT

936
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that put these shows, on

937
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: that make them physically possible are Actually trump. Supporters and

938
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: the other thing about this is, Increasingly, buck a lot

939
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: of people who stand in front of the camera are

940
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: still kind of, hiding but they're also starting to take

941
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: like that half step out where we mentioned this with like,

942
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: comedians there are a lot of comedians out there that

943
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Are trump supporting. COMEDIANS a lot of the people that

944
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: you watch and, like but they don't really Want AND

945
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: i get. It if my job was to talk to

946
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of people and make them, LAUGH i

947
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to come out stridently necessarily on one political

948
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: side of the equation or. Not IF i had. Everybody

949
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: this is my argument With Michael jordan back in the

950
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Day republicans by sneakers. Too why were you not? Political,

951
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: Like i'm a great basketball. Player why WOULD i want

952
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the population to like me less as

953
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: a basketball player because of my. Politics doesn't make any

954
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: sense to. Me BUT i do think this is a

955
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: super popular show and it is indicative of a major vibe.

956
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: Shift AND i don't know how many of you watch,

957
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: it BUT i guarantee, you if you're In New York

958
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: city OR la media entertainment, circles this is probably the

959
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: show that they watch more than any. Other and it

960
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: struck me On. Sunday it's Struck buck. Two we wanted

961
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: to play that for, you even if you don't watch

962
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: it as what the bibeshift can feel.

963
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Like you, know you, know five years, ago or maybe

964
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: even two years, ago maybe even six months, ago The

965
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: trump voter in a pop culture context on AN hbo

966
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: show would have been you, know, yeah, LIKE i don't know,

967
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: anything BUT i just Love america and have my.

968
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: Flag you, know it would have been.

969
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: Mockery it would have been much more likely to be,

970
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: oh aren't They they're right to be outraged that this

971
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: woman voted For, trump or that you, know we're led

972
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: to believe she voted For, Trump whereas now what it

973
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: exposed a little more was these, libs these left wingers

974
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: are living in this delusion where they don't realize that

975
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: more than half the country voted For, trump and they

976
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: probably know a lot of people who voted For.

977
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: Trump not only that. Too some of you out there always,

978
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: SAY i don't know why you watch a show LIKE

979
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: i watch lots of shows where people might hate my

980
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: politics BECAUSE i THINK i can appreciate somebody's talent in

981
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: something while also recognizing that they may not have the

982
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: same opinion as. ME i don't presume that everybody is

983
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: going to think the exact same as. Me doesn't MEAN

984
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: i can't like a movie or a television show or

985
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: a sport for that. Matter BUT i do think that

986
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: this is emblematic of a recognition that there are a

987
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: lot of people like you and Me buck out, There

988
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: AND i bet there's a ton of women who love

989
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: White lotus two that almost in, FACT i go into my,

990
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: MENTIONS i, BET i bet you've had a conversation almost

991
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: identical to what those three women just had at some

992
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: point over the last eight. YEARS i think huge majorities

993
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: of the women listening to us right now who Voted

994
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: trump have had a conversation like that with their g.

995
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: FRIENDS i think more women than, men speaking of women

996
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: who drink too much. Chardonnay Justin trudeau here he is amazing.

997
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: Transition thank. You here he is on the tariff. Issue

998
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: he was In, Ottawa canada today and he's he's very.

999
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Upset he is not having a good one, here very

1000
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: upset with the. Tariffs and this is what he says

1001
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: is going to. Happen play.

1002
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 7: One they've chosen to launch a trade war that will

1003
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 7: first and foremost Harm american. Families they've chosen to sabotage

1004
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 7: their own agenda that was supposed to usher in a

1005
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 7: new golden age for The United. States and they've chosen

1006
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 7: to undermine the incredible work we've done together to tackle

1007
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: the scourge that is, fentanyl a drug that must be

1008
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 7: wiped from the face of the. Earth so on that,

1009
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 7: point let me be crystal, clear there is absolutely no

1010
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 7: justifiction or need whatsoever for these tariffs, Today, clay.

1011
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: How much of what's going? On bill O'Reilly mentioned this

1012
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: earlier in The hours a great. Interview go back and

1013
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: listen if you missed. It on the Clan buck. Podcast

1014
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: how much of this we Know, mexico there's there's very

1015
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: real national, security, fentinel economic a whole range of issues

1016
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: that the tariffs touch on there that we you, know

1017
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: that's its own set of. Things With, canada how much

1018
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: of this is Just trump wants to Give Justin trudeau

1019
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: a weggie and push him into the locker in front of.

1020
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Everybody you.

1021
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: KNOW i wonder how much of this is driven by

1022
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: just Teaching trudeau a. LESSON i think it's an interesting.

1023
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: Question the tariff debate in general is a difficult one

1024
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't know where the end goal actually rest

1025
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: Buck WHEREAS i can tell, you, Hey trump definitely wants

1026
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: to cease fire In, ukraine and he wants there to

1027
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: be peace, there and he wants peace in The Middle,

1028
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: east what is the sweat spot on the. TARIFF i

1029
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: don't have an answer on, that RIGHT i don't have

1030
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: a direct. Answer, obviously big picture it is we need

1031
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: to manufacture more goods in The United. States we need

1032
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: more jobs in The United. STATES i understand. That but

1033
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: in terms of practical, impact what is the sweet spot

1034
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: where he would, say, hey you know, what this is

1035
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: where we're getting the balance that we WANT i don't know,

1036
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: it and SO i think that is the more challenging

1037
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: aspect of. THIS i do think That trump feels That

1038
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: canada And mexico have taken advantage of The United states

1039
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: and trade agreements for some, time AND i do think

1040
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: he's accurate about, that and that we have, bled to

1041
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: a large extent a lot of our manufacturing jobs as a.

1042
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: RESULT i think he's correct about, that and That mexico

1043
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: is not doing enough to stop the flow of, fentanyl

1044
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: which is killing one hundred thousand people a year in

1045
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: The United. States all of those things. True china of

1046
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: facilitating that as. Well but what does success look like?

1047
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: There success In ukraine is no more no more were people.

1048
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: Dying success in The Middle east is no more. War

1049
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: what is success on? TARIFFS i don't. Know the answer to.

1050
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: That bordi of success is nobody crossing, illegally which we.

1051
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: GOT i think What trump wants ultimately is reciprocity from

1052
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: these countries because there are a lot of tariffs that

1053
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: they have AGAINST us. Goods and this is where people

1054
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: in this, argument you, know W'ERE i, Understand we're we're

1055
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: told by the.

1056
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: The economic expert industrial complex that tariffs are, attacks and

1057
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: tariffs are, bad and tariffs can't we won't help. Us right,

1058
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: there there's STILL i think a pretty broad sense of

1059
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: that going. On and yet why does why Does china

1060
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: have all these tariffs AGAINST us? Goods why Does canada

1061
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: have all these? Tariffs why does THE eu have all

1062
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: these tariffs against THE us? Goods if it's so manifestly

1063
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: not advantageous to have, tariffs why do these countries have

1064
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: them against? Us And CLAY i think that also leads

1065
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: to What trump wants is for them not to do.

1066
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: That and so by saying and this is a little

1067
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: bit like the trade war issue With. China from the

1068
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: First trump, administration people kept, saying oh, no he's going

1069
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: to start a trade war With. China anybody who understood

1070
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: THE Us china trade situation would tell.

1071
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: You we were already in a trade. War it's just.

1072
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: They were fighting it and we were getting the short

1073
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: end of the. Stick, so you, know instead of a

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Speaker 2: one way trade, war all of a, sudden it turned

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Speaker 2: into both people would were playing. Hardball SO i think

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Speaker 2: that's just his baseline mentality on, this but it.

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Speaker 1: Might get a little rocky. Year everyone AND i, WENT

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Speaker 1: i went YESTERDAY i couldn't find any eggs in the grocery.

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Speaker 1: Store have you ever see have you had that? YET

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Speaker 1: i got to probably check at a, shock you. Buck

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Speaker 1: BUT i do not do a great deal of shopping

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Speaker 1: for The travis family when it comes to. Groceries when

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Speaker 1: was the last? Time when was the last Time laura

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Speaker 1: sent you solo to the grocery store for more than

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Speaker 1: one or two? Things, yeah like fifteen years. AGO i,

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Speaker 1: mean Like i'm gone to buy. Diapers i'm gone to

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Speaker 1: buy LIKE i, mean she sends me with pictures of

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Speaker 1: things THAT i need to buy on an individual. Basis

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Speaker 1: BUT i don't Think i've been to the grocery store

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Speaker 1: and like filled an entire grocery cart in like maybe

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Speaker 1: in our entire. MARRIAGE i don't, know certainly in like fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Years oh, man this is this is good, stuff all.

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Speaker 1: RIGHT a week from, Tomorrow i'm doing something exciting with

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Speaker 1: my dad appearing online in a conversation you don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Miss is as far more to do with my father's

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Speaker 2: expertise than. Mine but you're gonna find it really interesting

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Speaker 2: and you could benefit big. Time, LOOK i grew up

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Speaker 2: In New York, city as you, know my dad made

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Speaker 2: his living researching and predicting the stock. Market he was

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Speaker 2: good at it, too and his line of. Work you're

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Speaker 2: a hero if your predictions don't come or if your

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Speaker 2: predictions come. True if they, don't you got a fair

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Speaker 2: amount of additional homework to do and Some i'm, explaining

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Speaker 2: but Thankfully dad was right on the big. Ones all

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Speaker 2: that to. Say Next, Wednesday i'm hosting that video seminar

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Speaker 2: with my dad where he'll make another big forecast on the.

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Speaker 2: Markets write this date Down march twelfth at eleven Am

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Speaker 2: eastern eight am on The West. Coast it'll be online

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Speaker 2: in video form and super easy for you to register

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Speaker 2: free of charge Online. Montessey, aside my dad created quite

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Speaker 2: a name for himself On Wall street with his biggest

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Speaker 2: prediction back in eighty seven when he called the crash

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Speaker 2: in advance by eleven. Days he also called the crash

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Speaker 2: for his clients in two thousand and. Nine these predictions

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Speaker 2: are too numerous to get into it all the details right,

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Speaker 2: now so go register for the upcoming conversation On march

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