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Speaker 1: at Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine eighty eight, and it

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 1: Right at the five hit to the end zone for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinal touchdown, Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monster.

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grayolo.

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Speaker 4: So before we get to.

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Speaker 1: Isaac and Royd's away, good Paul, when you can have

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Speaker 1: the first full week of free agency early week two,

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Speaker 4: Did you leave the snowblower back in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be over there O line D line drills.

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Speaker 1: We got a little while before we get to training camp,

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was on this week's Red Seaverport poul

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowler twenty twenty four Next Gen Stats, as we

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Speaker 1: moves to Gilbert, so he gets to play basically in

439
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: his backyard. Speaking of playing in your backyard, Roy Lopez

440
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: at Arizona native, lives here, lives around the corner. Family

441
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: lives here. He's about to start his own family. Paul

442
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: and I had a chance to sit down with Roy

443
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Speaker 1: Lopez and officially welcome him back to the Arizona Cardinals. Well,

444
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: it was always good to speak with you, even more

445
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: so now because you are back with the Arizona Cardinals.

446
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: But first things first, congratulations. The last time we have

447
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: seen you are the first time since the big news

448
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: you're about to become a father.

449
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: I am yeah, I appreciate that seriously. Think you think

450
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: you we're excited. I guess so much to learn. I've

451
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: already learned quite quite a little bit. But it's cool,

452
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: it's awesome, it's a blessing.

453
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 4: Is there a little more urgency in your world just

454
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: knowing you're gonna become a father? It's sort of there's

455
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 4: sort of a little extra juice, le extra adrenaline.

456
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: For sure. I think in everything you do right, you

457
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: kind of think about that. And it's something that I

458
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: think of almost for everything that I do right. Like

459
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: he was, he's gonna hear about this one day, he's

460
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: gonna see this, he's gonna read about this, he's gonna

461
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: you know, or somebody's gonna tell him, right, And so

462
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: it's a it's something that I use for motivation, but

463
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: also I find peace and and we're excited.

464
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 4: God will the best job you'll ever have.

465
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, it is being a father's two fathers can

466
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: attest the other job you have Arizona Cardinals defensive alignment.

467
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: Coming back home because this is home for you. What

468
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: has been the last two three four days been like

469
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: for you?

470
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. Once the news came out, it was

471
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: and we made the decision, it was something that it

472
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: was beautiful. And then to be able to call everybody,

473
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: everybody's pumped. You was screaming through the phone, you know,

474
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: and we're back, man, And it was it was it's

475
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: so cool. It's so cool to be in the moment,

476
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it's it's it's beautiful to feel

477
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: the love through the phone and everybody's saying congratulations and

478
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: welcome home. And I don't take it for granted, man,

479
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't take it for granted at all. And uh,

480
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here.

481
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: I envisioned, like, you know, like a draft night, you know,

482
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: the player, the college kid gets the call and the

483
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: whole whole house goes nuts. You know, that's some envisioning

484
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: when you when you re signed with the Cardinals.

485
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Right, it was something like that for sure, And then

486
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: it was it was like a hard crash a little later,

487
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: and because I was like, oh I got it a

488
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: little bed right, like because because you know, like I said,

489
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: my lady seven months, right, so now we're on the

490
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: same sleep schedule, right, and so we're eight thirties. She's

491
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: kind of giving me that look like, okay, let's take

492
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: a shower, let's get ready for bed. Right. So it

493
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: was one of those things where news came out and

494
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 3: I'm like screaming, laughing, having a good time. All right,

495
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: it's time to go. And then the next day it

496
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: kind of hit us like, oh, we're home right, this

497
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: is It's amazing, It's amazing. Creg Correig.

498
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: Here's here's what I want to know, though, how'd you

499
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 4: end up in Detroit? My theory is twenty twenty four,

500
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: Week three, you put some really good film out there

501
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: against the Lions, and then last year's off season hit

502
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: and they targeted you. Is there any true to that?

503
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think who was it? One of the coaches

504
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: came out and I'm pretty sure it was Calvin Sheppard,

505
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: the decordinator over there, And a couple of the coaches

506
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: also came up to me when I was playing there

507
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: and they remembered me from when they played the Cardinals,

508
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: and they remember not because really my name, but just

509
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: because or the guy with the hair he was really good,

510
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: number ninety eight, right, he was really good. Right, And

511
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: so everybody's like, who is this guy?

512
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: Like?

513
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: Who is? And you know, to hear those stories once

514
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: you sign there and hear all those things and meet

515
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: all those people and they're like, dude, I remember you

516
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: like you were a dog like you you pretty good

517
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: bro like. And so one of those things is is

518
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: always cool to hear, you know, from your peers and

519
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: other players around the league. And you know because you

520
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: remember coming in as a you know, late round pick

521
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, and people don't know you, people

522
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: don't know your name. You got to prove yourself and

523
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: you yearn respect through your reps, right, you learn your

524
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: reputation through your reps, and you know, to be able

525
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: to see here, I'm going in New year six now

526
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 3: is it is a blessing? You know? So yeah, I'm

527
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: glad to'll be back. It's awesome.

528
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: A career high in both sacks and quarterback hits. Lessons

529
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: learned from your time in Detroit or how much of

530
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: a different better player are you from the last time

531
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: we saw you.

532
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned a lot. It was awesome. It was

533
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: my mental and preparation and routines and growing as a

534
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: man and learning how to you know, take advantage of

535
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: your opportunities and see formations and see certain things and

536
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: and so when you're understand you're prepping for what's about

537
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: to happen, you see things before they happen. And it

538
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: took credit to that room that I was in out

539
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: there and the coaches as well. And I got to

540
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: learn a lot, you know, with those with those guys

541
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: and and see a different side of the game. And

542
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: and uh, it was awesome, you know, to be able

543
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: to bring that with me and in my career and

544
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: my mental and and uh, you know, one day to

545
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: get into coaching and kind of bring all these worlds

546
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: that I've in, different schemes and different the way you

547
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: get the message across and all that stuff right, To

548
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: be able to bring the into my world and to

549
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: continue my career and then eventually into my coaching career,

550
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: I'm truly blessed and and and it's been amazing what

551
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: I've learned in a year.

552
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: I've half joked that you should wear the number two

553
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: because you take on double teams so much, you know,

554
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: I mean, that's still your job description a lot of ways,

555
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: isn't it.

556
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I mean as a D linean

557
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: that's it's it's uh, it's what you asked for, right,

558
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: It's what you sign up for, and uh, some more

559
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: than others. But it's fun. It's fun. I love it.

560
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: I love I love the double teams. I love you know,

561
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: anchoring in there, and you gotta love it in order

562
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: to play play the position. You gotta love the little

563
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: things man, and and you gotta love the grind. You

564
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: gotta love just being able to just you know, nobody,

565
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: nobody really cares until it's not good, right, and so

566
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: I no, he really cares. And you gotta find you

567
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: look at yourself like that was nice, right, that was

568
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: nice even though it's just a double team and you

569
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: didn't really do much besides just take the double right,

570
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: But in your eyes are like, oh that was dog

571
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: play was right, just kind of you know, self talking

572
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: and self love.

573
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: But Paul, there's no there's no stats for that on

574
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: how many double teams you take. So how do you

575
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: when you don't get those stats of the sacks, quarterback hits.

576
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: As far as how do you know that it was

577
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 1: a good play by you, a good series, a good

578
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: quarter a good game.

579
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think personally is you know one of those

580
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: you just know, right, you just kind of watch film

581
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 3: and either as a knockback or or you split the double,

582
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: you made them bounce to a different hole. Or if

583
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: your linebacker's sitting there with a lot of tackles after

584
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: the game, right like usually usually he was a little

585
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: couple couple cleaning a couple of times, you know, So

586
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: that's always good too, when your linebacker's got a lot

587
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: of tackles after the game and you kind of look

588
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: at them like, yeah, job. So it's it's just part

589
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: of the part of the game. And you gotta love

590
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: it to do it. And I truly do love it.

591
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: I truly do believe in it, believe in the grind, believing,

592
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: you know, doing your job, doing your one eleventh and

593
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: you know, helping the team because you know, team successes everything.

594
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Winning makes everything better. Man.

595
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: So we just talked to Isaac Samalo, right, and first off,

596
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: I think you guys, right now it's an early season

597
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: power pole for best hair. The two of you guys

598
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: gonna be right up there. I think you're gonna battle

599
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: for that hair. But you know, I asked them, look

600
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: third and one, fourth and guy to have it. You

601
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: want that run play behind you as a starting left guard?

602
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: He said, oh yeah, absolutely. When it's fourth and got

603
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: to have it and the opposition lines up in a

604
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: power formation, do you save a little something something extra?

605
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: Do you have a little something extra in your bag?

606
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: And those those money moments.

607
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: I was down the distance, pay my bills. Man's that's

608
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: where I live, man. And you know, it's a blessing

609
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: to be in those situations, whether it's on the goal

610
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: line or fourth on on the middle of the field,

611
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: and it's ah, and you can you can distinctly remember

612
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: a lot of them throughout that I can remember a

613
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: lot of those plays rather than you know, a second

614
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: and seven and whatever. It is right, because it's just

615
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: something about the mentality of line it up right like

616
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: low man wins, like let's run our feet like in

617
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: all those things. And it's a it's a world that

618
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: I like to live in. It's a it's a mentality

619
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: I like to live in. It's a it's a world

620
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: of mentality that I was raised on and you know,

621
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: you go back to the sport of wrestling. It's all

622
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: it's all in it. It's all in the hibs, it's

623
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: all in your hands, inside hands, low man wins. It's

624
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: it's something that's been preaching to me since I was

625
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: in diapers man. So yeah, you.

626
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Know, as well as anyone, things changed pretty quickly here

627
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL A year away, some familiar faces in

628
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: that locker room, new head coach, new position coach coming

629
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: into this situation. What do you know, what are you

630
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: familiar with? What's what's the excitement level as far as

631
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: who you now get to work with.

632
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: I think most exciting is just the hunger in the building.

633
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: And you know, to see everybody smile on their face,

634
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: and it's a good time of the year right now. Man,

635
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: everybody's happy, you know, and uh, everybody's got an idea

636
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: and a plan for how things are gonna go. And uh,

637
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: you know that's what that's what I appreciate to come

638
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: back and play for. You know, rollis is he doesn't flints,

639
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: man doesn't blink at adversity. He's a guy that stands

640
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: in the fire with you and he believes in you.

641
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: You know, so to be in this position with him

642
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: and to get things going and just that fire and

643
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: believe he's got he's gotten you a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Boom,

644
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: Sunday comes and he's the first guy looking you in

645
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: the eyes when adversity hits. It's hitting the fan, right,

646
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: and he's believing in you, and he's showing you like

647
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: this is this is exactly what we talked about in August.

648
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: It's exactly what we talked about in July September, like

649
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: this is why right, and it's I hold it deer

650
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: to my heart, you know, and you know the day

651
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: that you know I've become a coach at something, I'm

652
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: definitely gonna take some things from from neck Las, right,

653
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: I'll take things from a lot of coaches that I've

654
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: played for. And just that mentality. It's got that, that attitude,

655
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: the effort, and Uh, to be in this room again

656
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: with these guys, man, I can't wait. I can't wait

657
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: to be back in the room Dante, d Rob LJ

658
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: and all the guys that I haven't met and uh,

659
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: because I got some dogs in the room, right, So

660
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: I can't wait to go to war with them for sure.

661
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: I love the black cowboy hat. It means business choice.

662
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: It's a good choice.

663
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: What meal you're looking forward to the most? Now that

664
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 4: you're coming home, you got the big family. What did

665
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: you miss the most?

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, I was, I was. This is home, right,

667
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: so season ends, I come home. All right, So I've

668
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: been here, I've got my meal. We're in the locked in. Now,

669
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: we're in the locked in. I got my tacos, I

670
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: got I got everything right. So we're back to getting

671
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: getting going. We're getting edge and running.

672
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: So and you left the snowblower and Detroy right, you

673
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: put it on.

674
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I left at that. But it was great though.

675
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: It was my time. There was amazing. I loved every

676
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: every minute of it, every day. And the snow too.

677
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's okay, but it was good. It was good.

678
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: It was good. I learned a lot in the snow,

679
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 3: so I learned how to shovel, learn how to assault

680
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: all that, so, learned how to ask my neighbors for.

681
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: Help, went out, hire the kid down exactly exactly, so exactly. Roy.

682
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: It's great to have you back in the building. You

683
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: look great again. Congratulations on what's to come before you

684
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: start playing football once again.

685
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: But welcome back. I appreciate you seriously, thank you, thank you.

686
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: Thanks Roy.

687
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Well, we have our go to guy in the locker room, Paul,

688
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: when we want to talk about the defense and what

689
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the defense is up again that particular week. Because you

690
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: look at media savvy people in the locker room, Roy

691
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Lopez one of those guys that will always be available,

692
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: and you could hear it in his voice, you can

693
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: see it in his face. For those that want to

694
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: watch these interviews with Isaac Samalo and Roy Lopez, go

695
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: to Azycardinals dot com or the Arizona Cardinals YouTube channel.

696
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: But for Roy, he is home and in every sense

697
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: of the word, home with his family, home with his

698
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: hometown team. And I think is as much as it

699
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: might have pained people to see him play for the

700
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions last season, certainly sounds like he is coming

701
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: back a better player and maybe even a better person.

702
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: And he's at home doing exactly what the Cardinals are

703
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: gonna task him to do. Be at the epicenter of

704
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: the defensive line, be that nose tackle, take on the

705
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: double team. Like he told us, it's the world that

706
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: he lives in. It's the mentality that he's been raised

707
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: on ever since he was in diapers, former state champion wrestler.

708
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: It's all about the hips and the hands and leverage

709
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: and low man wins and all that. That is Roy Lopez.

710
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: And when we asked him third and one, fourth and short,

711
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: you saw him sort of edge up in his seat

712
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 4: and he said, literally, that's my paycheck. That's what I'm

713
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: brought in to do. That's where I make my living,

714
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: is to be that immovable object. So him combined with

715
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: Andrew Billings at three hundred and forty plus six foot one,

716
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: a couple of body types, a couple of skill sets,

717
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, team lines up, the opponent

718
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: lines up and some sort of power formation and here

719
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: comes multiple tight ends and the extra offensive lineman, and

720
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: you know we're gonna try and cram this vertical right

721
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: through the A gap. I like the Cardinals' chances with

722
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: Roy Lopez back in the fold, and Andrew Billings and everything,

723
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 4: hopefully you know, with Walter Nolan how disruptive he has been,

724
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: and Darius Robinson the way he finished last season, and

725
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: he really he ended up in the box score a

726
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: lot those last three games. Seven tackles, five tackles, five tackles,

727
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: He had a TfL, he had pass defense. You know,

728
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: he was disruptive those last three games and nothing else

729
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: for a Darius Robinson. Hopefully that gives him confidence going

730
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: into the offseason. What's the old saying, Momentum doesn't care over,

731
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: but confidence can, especially in a young player. So you know,

732
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: Roy Lopez was that guy a few years ago. He

733
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: didn't make it into the Houston Texans coming out of camp.

734
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: He had some injury issues. He didn't feel like he

735
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: was able to show what he really had and it

736
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: was a fine MANI Oscivord brought him in after those

737
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: final cuts by the Houston Texans in August, and he

738
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: has really established himself in the NFL. And obviously he

739
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 4: just got a contract. He got paid a.

740
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Two year contract for Roy Lopez and that transition, it's

741
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: going to be seamless because there's a number of familiar

742
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: faces in that locker room. You mentioned Walter Nolan, you

743
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: mentioned Darius Robinson, LJ. Collier is back, Dante Stills is back.

744
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: You have that rotation along the defensive line to keep

745
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: guys fresh. Roy didn't start a single game last season

746
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: for the lines, but he played all seventeen games, so

747
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: I know sometimes you want that starting nod, but all

748
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: it is is the first snap, either on offense and defense,

749
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day, how many

750
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: snaps do you get after that? The money downs, third down,

751
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: fourth down? Are are you on the field late in

752
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the game? Do your coaches trust you to be on

753
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: the field late in the game. And I think Roy Lopez,

754
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: whether he starts or not, he's going to be on

755
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: the field more times than not when the defense needs

756
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: to make a play or get off the field.

757
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: And I like the experience that he got in Detroit.

758
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: He talked about being in that room, you know, with

759
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: a different defensive coordinator, Dan Campbell as head coach. That

760
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: can only be beneficial playing in that division against Ben

761
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 4: Johnson and Matt Lafleur, going against those teams twice a year,

762
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell in the Vikings. So I think he comes

763
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 4: in now you can honestly say he's got that polished

764
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: to his game. He's got that little extra football IQ

765
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: to his game that maybe he didn't have when he

766
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: was really existing and making plays just on sheer athleticism

767
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: and the skill set that he brings as a former wrestler,

768
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: so now he's got a little bit of that experience

769
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: and against different teams and different schemes and he can, yeah,

770
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: hopefully he can be a real asset with the young

771
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: guys like Walter Nolan and Darius Robinson.

772
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: And to hear him talk about Nick Rollis, and it

773
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: does sound like that was a key point in his

774
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: return to be able to play once again for Nick

775
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: who might have put him in great position to make

776
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: plays to where the Lions came knocking on his door

777
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: after twenty twenty four and say, hey, we want you.

778
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals unfortunately let him go, But have not heard a

779
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: lot as far as Nick Rollis's return. Maybe the surprise

780
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: of the offseason when you look at the coaching change

781
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: and Rollis's back despite the defensive struggles late in the season.

782
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: But here's someone we saw Mac Wilson post on social media,

783
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: unfinished business with Nick Rolis coming back. So there's gonna

784
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: be a spotlight on the defense, all three levels of

785
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: the defense, and it's going to be there until this

786
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: defense shows that they've either learned from their past mistakes

787
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: or that they've shown they've gotten better from last season.

788
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: You know, maybe the low key addition on the defensive

789
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: side of the ball, I'd say it's twofold. I'd say

790
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: one could be linebacker Jack Gibbons because we know all about

791
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: Roy Lopez, but Jack Gibbons because to your point, when

792
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: Mac Wilson Senior went down, man, you just missed the

793
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 4: experienced depth at linebacker. And Gibbons is a guy who

794
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: played in every game last year, started the Super Bowl

795
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 4: for the Patriots. He's had a ton of double digit

796
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: tackle games for different teams over his four years in

797
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: the NFL. So, for example, what if on certain passing downs,

798
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: Mac Wilson Senior returned to the edge and a Jack

799
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: Gibbons was playing your Mike Becker because he's very capable

800
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: and experienced at doing that. Interesting. The other low key

801
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: edition I would have to say is Tarrell Austin would

802
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: be the senior defensive assistant who'd spent what the last

803
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: six years with Mike Tomlin, three time defensive coordinator. Guy's

804
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: been there and done that against every single offensive coordinator,

805
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: every single scheme in the game. Don't forget Nick Rosis's

806
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: thirty ti thirty three years of age. Even though he's

807
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: going into his fourth year as a defensive coordinator. He's

808
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 4: still on, He's still so in so many ways, up

809
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: and coming and a younger guy in the league of

810
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: Terrell Austin. I just like that experience he brings in

811
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: and I'd be run. I'm not sure they'll avo tell us,

812
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 4: but I am curious what sort of impact influence he

813
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 4: might have in sort of guiding the scheme the Cardinals

814
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: go with this year. Where did Jack Gibbons play last season,

815
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: New England? Where did mac Wilson Senior play before in Arizona?

816
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a couple of years ago, you're right, and

817
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: New England actually matched the Cardinals off for dollar for dollar.

818
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: And mac Wilson's here and told us in the Big

819
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Red Rage two years ago. No, he liked what the Cardinal.

820
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: He liked Nick Ross, he liked Jonathan Gannon at the time.

821
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: He liked what he was seeing and what the Cardinals

822
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: were building, and he wanted a fresh start. And you

823
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: know what, he's lived up to every every promise that

824
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: mac Wilson Senior made come into the Cardinals, He's made

825
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: good on it.

826
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: And hopefully, if you're talking about health, the one player

827
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: you want to see on the field this offseason, in

828
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: training camp, preseason, in the regular season, certainly Week one,

829
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: it's Mac Wilson Senior because of what he means to

830
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: that defense green dot extension to Nick Rollis. But when

831
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: he went out when he got hurt in Week eight

832
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys, we know the record. Cardinals did

833
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: not win another game. Now, there were a lot of

834
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: factors outside of that, but that was a big missing

835
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: piece that the Cardinals were never able to fill.

836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 4: There was so much put on that position to not

837
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: only run the rest of the defense, but be the

838
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: playmaker at the center of the defense, and Mac Wilson

839
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: Senior was so equipped to that. I honestly think he

840
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: was tracking for serious Pro Bowl consideration. Go back to

841
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 4: his Week three game at the forty nine ers. All

842
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: over the field. I mean, it's like he was looking

843
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: at Fred Warner on the opposite sideline saying, you know what,

844
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to compete with you to be the best

845
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: Mike backer on this field on this day. The way

846
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: he blasted and took out Christian McCaffrey on that fourth

847
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 4: down in the red zone, that was a not only

848
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: an unbelievable touchdown saving play, but turnover on downs but

849
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: the statement it made in that stadium, and the Cardinals

850
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: took that game to the very end, and once again

851
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: is a Jones catch away from winning that game. The

852
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: only downside of mcwill's so senior getting healthy and returning

853
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: in the signing of Jack Gibbons is I presume it

854
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: takes them out of the sunny style sweepstakes and number

855
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: three overall. I don't know that for sure, but you

856
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 4: know our affinity for that position. And once again, if

857
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: you did go for Sonny styles, how about that one

858
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: to two combo and then Jack Gibbons is the third linebacker,

859
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: inside linebacker and Macwills Senior would have the option to

860
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: go into the edge on passing downs. How many times

861
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: is Rob Frederickson and Kyle van Deerbosch over the years

862
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: pointed that out as one of his really unique skill sets.

863
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: And you look at the percentage of pressures the MacWillson

864
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 4: Senior has put on quarterbacks compared to the number of rushes,

865
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: it's impressive.

866
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Speaker 3: I think there's a.

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Speaker 1: Much larger discussion, maybe debates about whether it's inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: or safety or maybe even running back at number three,

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Speaker 1: because those positions, Paul, I know you've kind of hinted

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Speaker 1: at all three of those. When you have a top

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Speaker 1: five pick, because you pick top five, top three. For me,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what position, because you're selecting that high.

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Speaker 1: You take the best player who you believe could be ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve years in this league, multiple time contracts. You don't

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Speaker 1: typically draft for need when you have a top five pick. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe this draft is a little different considering the needs

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have versus when you don't have that quarterback

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Speaker 1: atop the drafts, And the Cardinals certainly have a need there.

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Speaker 1: But I'm willing to play your little game as far

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Speaker 1: as non premiere or non impacts when it comes to

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Speaker 1: typically it's quarterback, tackle, edge, corner when you're drafting in

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Speaker 1: the first round.

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Speaker 4: And I get it. And we had this conversation slash

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Speaker 4: debate on Cardinals Underground, and I just tried to illustrate,

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Speaker 4: paint a picture for Darrener. I tried to tell him, now,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, what if you had Patrick Willis out there?

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Speaker 4: What if you have Fred Warner out there, Luke Keikley

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Speaker 4: out there? Is that sort of player worth number three overall?

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Speaker 4: And our thinking over the years has been all, you know,

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Speaker 4: those premier positions you just listed. But if you can

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Speaker 4: get that guy, if you're certain that guy can be

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Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame type player at that position, that

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Speaker 4: can be a game changer. I mean, go back to

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers with Patrick Willison, Navarro Bowman. That

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Speaker 4: was their competitive advantage. I mean Bobby Wagner in his

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Speaker 4: prime with that legion of boom. I mean, that was legit.

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Speaker 4: And so if you can get that guy to me

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Speaker 4: and he's going to be that guy for the next decade.

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Speaker 4: How many of the draft analysty you talked to at

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Speaker 4: the combine this year said draft good players period. That's

901
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Speaker 4: the philosophy should be the approach. Draft good players. Buddha Banker,

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Speaker 4: I'm see me. You know a safety, you know in

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Speaker 4: the top five. But if you're going to get a

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker for the next decade, yes, you would get

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Speaker 4: a Ronnie Lott, who once upon a time was a

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Speaker 4: high draft pick for the forty nine ers and one

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Speaker 4: how many rings. So there there are certain players over

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Speaker 4: the years that transcend the position itself. They're so dynamic.

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Speaker 1: Well said, by the way, speaking in the draft a

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Speaker 1: mock draft tracker. The latest version is up on Azcardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Zach Kirshman does a good job of paying

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Speaker 1: attention to all the different mock drafts out there and

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Speaker 1: where the Cardinals or the different names and positions that

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have been linked to. By the way, before

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Speaker 1: we go here, I have to bring this up because

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Speaker 1: I think we brought it up off air. But uh,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else of this offseason, Paul, when we speak

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Speaker 1: with an Isaac Samalo or Roy Lopez, you throw in

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wingard Gardner, Minshew. The hair game has certainly been upgraded.

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Speaker 1: And I can say that because I'm an individual who's

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Speaker 1: losing his hair and I'm envious of all the hair

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Speaker 1: now that the Cardinals have. As far as the free

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Speaker 1: agency is concerned, Yeah, well, I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 4: So we live vicariously through those who are in their

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Speaker 4: prime and are rock and the free flowing hair. Let

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Speaker 4: the freak flag fly. As he used to say, what

927
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Speaker 4: in the sixties and seventies when they I mean these

928
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Speaker 4: guys are right, I mean Winger walks in here, and

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Speaker 4: I know everyone's talking about Pat Tillman, Dennis Gardak, I

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Speaker 4: see Kirk Colbain myself. I mean the guys like walking

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Speaker 4: ink blot test. You know, I just so, what do

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Speaker 4: you see and Andrew Wingert, I mean great personality as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean some of the guys they brought in, you

934
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Speaker 4: can just tell they love ball. So you only hope

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Speaker 4: that passionate hunger for the game. Whether it's a Kendrick Bourne,

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Speaker 4: whether it's say Amalo Winger right talking about flying around

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Speaker 4: Buddha esque in you know, run into the darkness, different

938
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Speaker 4: type of player, same mentality, or Roy Lopez, you can

939
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Speaker 4: just see how much he loves the game. So for

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Speaker 4: everyone who thinks that maybe there are teams out there

941
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Speaker 4: not putting in their best foot forward to try and

942
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Speaker 4: get into the win column this year, try and tell

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Speaker 4: that to the locker room. Try and tell that to

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Speaker 4: individual players who live for game day, whose payday is

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Speaker 4: predicated on how they perform out on that field. So

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Speaker 4: that's one thing that I just still shake my head at.

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Speaker 4: It's just not the way it works in the locker

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Speaker 4: room from the inside out.

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Speaker 1: Well said, coaches don't think that way. Players don't think

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Speaker 1: that way, and the players that we've had a chance

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Speaker 1: to speak too so far here in free agency certainly

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Speaker 1: don't think that way. But again, time will tell what

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is all about. Special thanks again to

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Speaker 1: Isaac say Alalo and Roy Lopez for joining us here.

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Speaker 1: More conversations to come as the free agency continues and

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Speaker 1: guys have come into the building and Paul and I've

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Speaker 1: had a chance to speak with them. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: those over the next couple of shows here. As we

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Speaker 1: continue on that notes, we will put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals. Cover too, presented by Hyundai, proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mamhandre, our associate producer Cody Fincher.

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Speaker 1: For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Rayel Lou. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.