Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two, seventy eight,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Dirty at Least Guys Stay production by
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Our co host today is laughing at the
Speaker 1: fact that I just screamed that in my father in
Speaker 1: law study. Well, Jack's gone in to do his thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we do important things dad,
Speaker 1: like take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's
Speaker 1: actually up, is what I call him. It's Thursday, March Night,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien. Ak. I love
Speaker 1: it when you call my legs plump burns, call my
Speaker 1: wife my wife while talking state strife. I love it
Speaker 1: when you call my legs plump. First, get that TikTok
Speaker 1: out of my face, and please don't shoot up the place.
Speaker 1: Why because the American people don't have any health care. Ohcare.
Speaker 1: That's just courtesy of LOCARONI in the discord, doing the
Speaker 1: lord worse, just churning him out day after day. And
Speaker 1: my father in law did hear me just saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm very impressed. I could tell by the way he
Speaker 1: rolled his eyes and just slammed swimmed the door. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a lovely man. I'm just joking. I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined by today's guest co host, a hilarious comedian, writer,
Speaker 1: director viral sensation, in honor of International Women's Day. She's
Speaker 1: going to be eating peanut butter pretzels all episode. It's
Speaker 1: Sarah Joe, what up? Sorry, Juna, Sara SEPs A k A, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's what you And you can't say anything.
Speaker 1: You can't say International Women's Day. And if you say
Speaker 1: something about here, Si, you're so fucking sexist. You're so funny,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to report you to the International Women's Counsel, Yes,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna beat your cool that I refer to
Speaker 1: it as International Ladies Day? Is that cool? Yeah? Right, good?
Speaker 1: It is funny that, like in America is kind of
Speaker 1: a joke, but in the rest of the world it's
Speaker 1: a legitimate holiday. Yeah, of course, Like yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Salary month, it's International Women's Day. But like my cousin
Speaker 1: like sincerely wished me a happy International Women's Day, and
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you so much. Man, that's awesome. Well,
Speaker 1: we're thrilled to be joined once again by a writer
Speaker 1: who's one of the best podcast hosts, executive producers out
Speaker 1: here doing it, you know, from stuff that don't want
Speaker 1: you to know, ridiculous history, the new podcast. Let's start
Speaker 1: a coup. Please welcome Ben Boeo. I should have brought snacks.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, sir, thank you, thank you Jack
Speaker 1: for having me back on. You know, every time that
Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to drop by this show, I say,
Speaker 1: thank goodness. You all have such terrible taste in friends.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I at the point where I
Speaker 1: can write my own akas? Or you got something? You
Speaker 1: got some locked in low? Yeah, you're you're at that
Speaker 1: who the second you come on the show? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: forget every time every time I come to the show.
Speaker 1: Jag and Miles have some crazy aka's. But by the way,
Speaker 1: at this point they outsourced them people on Twitter and
Speaker 1: the Reddit in the discorder doing all this. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing is you've got to get on like a
Speaker 1: week ahead and be like, zite, fam I need a
Speaker 1: ka's please please, And then they'll send you references to
Speaker 1: songs you've never heard of. Yeah, amazing, Okay. Then I
Speaker 1: am in full disclosure not freestyling these. I did think
Speaker 1: about some of these, so if they're my fault. Some
Speaker 1: of them I used in the past. Then heed both
Speaker 1: hands aka Max Powers, asked ronaut with a secret aka
Speaker 1: doctor Awkward. That's a balindrome. Uh and aka mister redacted.
Speaker 1: If those work, damn will allow them? Yes, I like
Speaker 1: mister redacted. That's mysterious. Yeah, and it'll it'll, it'll come
Speaker 1: into play later. Sorry, I'll ask I'll ask you all
Speaker 1: some questions. Oh shit, I don't know whose podcast do
Speaker 1: you think you're on if you think it's your podcast,
Speaker 1: but you're on the Daily Zeitgeist and it's International Women's Day,
Speaker 1: So i'd ask you. I'll pump some brakes. Podcasting from
Speaker 1: not his house. This is my house. This is my house. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: this is my house. Dad. All right, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. Ben. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. There's such a thing as a customer
Speaker 1: rage index, and we're gonna check in with it. The
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal wrote an article those like American consumers
Speaker 1: are mad, more mad, more angry, like more complaining than
Speaker 1: they've ever been, and it's costing company's money. But I
Speaker 1: think there were interesting things between the lines in this
Speaker 1: article that, of course the Wall Street Journal left on
Speaker 1: the said. But we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's new anti woke comedy club, which one Jack.
Speaker 1: He just opened a new one, and people are like
Speaker 1: snapping update in Austin. Of course, they're like, he's trying
Speaker 1: to like make Austin a comedy city, like a cultural mecca,
Speaker 1: and it's like Austin is a cool city with lots
Speaker 1: of you know, cool comedians and cool culture. And the
Speaker 1: fact that like we're now going to be like Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: it's the rogannaissance cookes he did it for all of
Speaker 1: us is depressing. But anyways, we'll talk about it. Because
Speaker 1: Opening Night had Roseanne Barr there. I think we all
Speaker 1: saw highlights of her comedy special on Fox News. Was
Speaker 1: she wearing Is she wearing the denim twenty four seven? Now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's uh, her pronouns are kiss
Speaker 1: my ass. H very diplomatic choice of words. I'm sorry, Jack,
Speaker 1: you mean kiss pronouns are kiss my ass. It's truly
Speaker 1: the fact that that joke is still being used by
Speaker 1: somebody un ironically is amazing and be careful with that joke.
Speaker 1: It's an antique. And so yeah, that's right now with vodka.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about Sunny d We'll talk about the
Speaker 1: teenage mutant ninja turtles. Uh, some of these things we
Speaker 1: might talk about, but plenty moore. First, Ben, we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Oh? Okay, here it comes. We're we we
Speaker 1: set it up with the AKA. So we'll get to
Speaker 1: that in a sect. But first, did you all know
Speaker 1: that there can be houses considered legally haunted? I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. That seems who decides that in this case?
Speaker 1: What I mean was who who books that? Because because
Speaker 1: you got some you got some stuff to bring up?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah yeah nyack New York, which sounds like
Speaker 1: nayak Well geez, I'm not gonna go h's today. And
Speaker 1: if it's not, that's how we're pronouncing it today. Okay, Ben,
Speaker 1: all right? Got it? They uh the the there's a
Speaker 1: house there called the Ackley House, and the New York
Speaker 1: Supreme Court State of Appeals, First Division, which would be
Speaker 1: a Manhattan legally ruled that this house was haunted because, uh,
Speaker 1: somebody bought the house. And it's a very like pricy
Speaker 1: like pinkies up victorian uptown New York house and and
Speaker 1: uh and the person who sold it apparently didn't do
Speaker 1: a good enough job telling the people who bought it
Speaker 1: that the house was haunted. Uh and now and so
Speaker 1: they went to court. And it's a whole hullabaloo. You
Speaker 1: can learn all about ever knew such a hullabaloo. I'll
Speaker 1: never knew such a hulla believe yes, Jack and so
Speaker 1: um so it was very interesting to find this the uh,
Speaker 1: the hulla baboo up. Yeah, I think we just ended
Speaker 1: the podcast. That's why it's Women's Day. It is. And
Speaker 1: there is a show I do call Ridiculous History as
Speaker 1: an episode that probably like just came out as we're
Speaker 1: all hearing this, s Zight Gang, which is guest toasted
Speaker 1: by some female and female identifying co host because we
Speaker 1: do respect International Women's Day. So if you the plot thickens,
Speaker 1: so doth spot Uh sorry sorry, it was International Women's
Speaker 1: Day on the eighth, right, so we're we're doing this
Speaker 1: all the day after we're recording it on International Women's Wow.
Speaker 1: Question is Jack, how much do you respect women? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So only for twenty four hours of perspect I was
Speaker 1: just we are trending yesterday was host by super producers
Speaker 1: on Hosnie and Beck around moos so, so we got
Speaker 1: in there as well. Last thing, do check that episode
Speaker 1: episode out. Michael Alder June and Lord Vogelbaum go uh,
Speaker 1: go into the nitty gritty of this and it's a
Speaker 1: really interesting story. But for you all saw Jack, you
Speaker 1: gotta know. I just found out the US Witness Protection
Speaker 1: program lets you choose your own name, like when you're
Speaker 1: starting life over, They're gonna go, oh, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's your vibe? Right, what's your vibe? Check on that.
Speaker 1: But they have to have there has to be some
Speaker 1: editorial control because plate where you can't name yourself like
Speaker 1: mister Dick and balls or whatever, right right, because they
Speaker 1: but they also are trying to help you not draw
Speaker 1: attention to yourself. Right. They recommend the guy who started
Speaker 1: or played a big role in starting Witness Protection with
Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy, he Gerald Trum. I want to say frum uh.
Speaker 1: He wanted to give people some pointers and so do
Speaker 1: to do to say? Usually we ask people to choose
Speaker 1: something that starts with the same first letter and then
Speaker 1: you know, something you can remember easily because if you
Speaker 1: if you go out and you're like, hey, I'm Max Powers,
Speaker 1: asked you not with a secret, They'll be first off,
Speaker 1: that's not a name, that's like a weird that's your
Speaker 1: weird comedy bit. So they will advise you, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they have veto Power. But for everybody looking to
Speaker 1: burn down your old life if the heat got too close,
Speaker 1: you can choose your own name. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's what witness protection. Yeah, I don't think it's like
Speaker 1: an opped in program. By the way, you know what
Speaker 1: else allows you to pick your own name? With reality?
Speaker 1: You can just you can if you want to deal
Speaker 1: with the bureaucratic bullshit of changing your name, We're just
Speaker 1: not or just moved to a new city and start
Speaker 1: telling everybody that your name is Max Power's astronaut with
Speaker 1: a secret. You know they won't like you, but they
Speaker 1: will probably call you that because they don't know anything
Speaker 1: else to call you. I just I just change my
Speaker 1: stage name. I've been going by Starry June for a
Speaker 1: while and now I'm sorry Sebzy. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's annoying when people change their names a lot
Speaker 1: but also, who's going to stop me? Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: me by not knowing that And sorry, June, when I
Speaker 1: introduced you, that's fine because it's a you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not like, it's not it's a dead name, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay yea. But I also like, I really appreciate all
Speaker 1: of the trans and non binary people into my life
Speaker 1: who have changed their names and made it very cool
Speaker 1: and normal for me to do. So. Yeah, absolutely, very
Speaker 1: nice in them, that's what. Yeah, that's what. So some
Speaker 1: of my friends were telling me. They were like, we're
Speaker 1: doing this for Sarah. Yeah, we could do it all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And back to legally haunted. Who on the witness stand Like,
Speaker 1: is the logic of that based just that people can
Speaker 1: perceive something as haunted and therefore like affects the value
Speaker 1: in a real way or were they like ghosts are
Speaker 1: real and legally we recognize them. Well, they got out
Speaker 1: of wija board at the New York State Supreme Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals and they said, oh shit, these things work.
Speaker 1: Fuck no. They they said that they counted it under
Speaker 1: a material devaluation of the homes. So yeah, yeah, not quite.
Speaker 1: But how did they how did they, like, what was
Speaker 1: the evidence for it? Being material. So the homeowner, Helen
Speaker 1: Actley wrote an article in Reader's Digest in the seventies
Speaker 1: where she talked in very flowery language about how delightful
Speaker 1: it was that her home was super haunted. And then
Speaker 1: the people bought the house went back and said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is kind of fucked up because now if we
Speaker 1: have to sell this house we spend a lot of
Speaker 1: money on, then what are we going to do when
Speaker 1: people ask us about ghosts? As as the guest host
Speaker 1: Michael Elder June and Lauren vocal Bomb put it so
Speaker 1: beautifully in that episode of Ridiculous History, these folks didn't
Speaker 1: believe in ghosts, but they believed in the market, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's truly Reader's Digest that is to blame. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean number one arch village of American literature. Right,
Speaker 1: They're just a bridge and shit left and right for decades.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't jokes for the elderly. I know
Speaker 1: it was Big Digest going to get us? Is this
Speaker 1: the one that thinks us? I used to read the
Speaker 1: Reader's Digest like Humor in Uniform section or whatever, because
Speaker 1: we had we had them laying around and I was
Speaker 1: just that there there weren't many like humor magazines laying
Speaker 1: around and that explains every bell joke. Jack, everyone knows
Speaker 1: you read. Yeah that I did think Readers Digest was
Speaker 1: like when I when I was like, you know, nine
Speaker 1: years old, I was like Readers Digest. I thought it
Speaker 1: was like the New Yorker. Here. The subscription comes with
Speaker 1: a molecule. You know, it does explain both your humor
Speaker 1: and your uniform. Thank you. What is something then that
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? All right now? Not everyone's going
Speaker 1: to agree? And Jack, you know that I typically you
Speaker 1: and Miles both know. I typically don't like saying things
Speaker 1: are overrated. Everybody's got their own experiences. Big concerts, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Ticketmaster is a pain in the key star anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you, Sorry, I'm agreeing. I'm agree with Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't be silent. I'm raising my voice. Don't be silent anymore. So, uh,
Speaker 1: big concerts, you know, everybody was excited to get back
Speaker 1: to them after a shutdown in the US occurred. I
Speaker 1: don't want to one. I'm not gonna say which one,
Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, first off, fucking ticket Master,
Speaker 1: and then secondly, there are lines everywhere, every every imaginable
Speaker 1: drink is way more expensive than it should be. And
Speaker 1: then you get in and there's this massive press of people,
Speaker 1: and if you're in a paranoid position like I usually am,
Speaker 1: you're thinking where are the exits? What if this goes wrong?
Speaker 1: These thousands or several hundreds of people are very excited,
Speaker 1: usually to hear maybe three four songs, and then uh,
Speaker 1: it's just a bad look, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm getting old. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Are big concerts overrated? Plus
Speaker 1: your peepers can't see the damn artists on stage? You
Speaker 1: know that? I don't know. I find concerts to be
Speaker 1: things that I don't look forward to and always like
Speaker 1: what they do to the like artists work like after
Speaker 1: I've seen them is usually worth it to me, Like
Speaker 1: I like it, I really like for whatever reason, like
Speaker 1: just seeing someone perform live makes me really appreciate their
Speaker 1: work a lot more and I love that creates some
Speaker 1: value for me. But yeah, I mean, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: also not, Like I haven't been to a big concert
Speaker 1: in many years, so I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: been to what qualifies as a big concert like in
Speaker 1: an amphitheater or something, you know, right, But as a
Speaker 1: person with crowd anxiety, I am extremely on your side. Ben,
Speaker 1: I don't like and you know, and it started. It
Speaker 1: hasn't always been that way. It started. You know. I
Speaker 1: used to be able to go to big music festivals
Speaker 1: outside and not have a problem. And then I kept
Speaker 1: going to them, and then I started feeling really crazy
Speaker 1: and being like I need to leave. You know, so
Speaker 1: many people, it's been so many people since COVID, it
Speaker 1: has not improved. My cat is really upset that I'm
Speaker 1: not paying attention to her, so she just knocked something
Speaker 1: on my I was gonna, what's your cat's name, Mila,
Speaker 1: shut shout out, shout out, Mila, International Women's Day Queen. Yes, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore. Um. And I always kind
Speaker 1: of thought sometimes they see video, you know, people go
Speaker 1: see Beyonce or whatever and got those like nosebleed seats
Speaker 1: and you know, there's big screens that show you the artist.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you might as well just be watching
Speaker 1: a video of this concert, right, Yeah, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not for me. I was, but the fun part, sorry,
Speaker 1: just the fun part of that is that you're watching
Speaker 1: the screen and then taking a video of the screen,
Speaker 1: so you're watching the screen through your screen. So there's
Speaker 1: like four levels of things happening, but you are in
Speaker 1: the same physical space. So yeah, yeah. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of like one time I went to go see this
Speaker 1: rapper and I was trying to I had like a
Speaker 1: disposable like flash camera, and so I raised it up
Speaker 1: to try and take a picture of the rapper on stage,
Speaker 1: and what I ended up with because of the strength,
Speaker 1: you know, the limited strength of the flash, was a
Speaker 1: picture of a bunch of people raising their cell phones.
Speaker 1: You can't see what's going on on stage at all,
Speaker 1: but the only accurate picture of a concert ever taken.
Speaker 1: That's how they know you were really there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like the thing that I will just say, there's
Speaker 1: a brief backstory here in Atlanta, Georgia, an up and
Speaker 1: coming musician named Taylor Swift had a concert and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you all have heard of this person,
Speaker 1: but I see big things for them in the future.
Speaker 1: And everyone in the everyone in the places I would
Speaker 1: go to walking around my usual sketchy reprobate cruise, they
Speaker 1: were all very excited and we're all like, oh, Ben,
Speaker 1: we're going to this Taylor Swift concert. And I would say, well,
Speaker 1: you're the You're like the fortieth person I know who
Speaker 1: is going now, and you might want to hurry up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, I think there's gonna be a line, dude,
Speaker 1: And it just soured. Men. You know, no disrespect of
Speaker 1: the artist, because touring is one of the primary ways
Speaker 1: they make their money. Now that so many big studios
Speaker 1: or production companies have become poisonous by time, But when
Speaker 1: somebody does a residency in Las Vegas, I think that
Speaker 1: it's the only way to truly see someone because then
Speaker 1: the crowd is thin enough because everybody is kind. They're
Speaker 1: doing the same show day after day. They have it
Speaker 1: down by heart. You're getting to see a robotic version
Speaker 1: of them. I don't know. This is all to say,
Speaker 1: I really want to see Katy Perry in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: I've just come to that conclusion in the last twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. Yeah, I'm going Carrot Top. But you know what,
Speaker 1: Let's meet up for dinner. Okay, let's take a quick break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll hear you're underrated and get into
Speaker 1: some news and we're back and Ben bawling. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Mike Burnston bridges here, not
Speaker 1: everybody agrees polyphasic sleep. It's where you sleep instead of
Speaker 1: like the typical person sleep somewhere between six to ten
Speaker 1: hours day. I think globally, I've always hated sleep. I
Speaker 1: find it presumptuous u U. And when I was I
Speaker 1: can't remember, we talked about this. I was. Circumstances found
Speaker 1: me on the other side of the Pacific recording still
Speaker 1: on US East Coast time, and so I couldn't sleep
Speaker 1: in like a typical eight hour chunk. And I went
Speaker 1: back to an old sleep experiment I did where polyphasic
Speaker 1: sleep is. You break up and you find whatever your
Speaker 1: average sleep for twenty four hours is, and you break
Speaker 1: it up across those twenty four hours, and I dig it. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, every culture that has a siesta is fucking right.
Speaker 1: You know they've figured it out. I'm on board with cis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm don't board with siesta as long as I get
Speaker 1: my ten hours the night before ten hours you're doing
Speaker 1: ten hours, yeah, and then just like tack on an
Speaker 1: extra two three in the afternoon. That's me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a sleephead. I love a sleep ahead. I
Speaker 1: love sleeping. To me, it's the best. I like woke
Speaker 1: up from like I was very tired, hadn't hadn't gotten
Speaker 1: my full thirteen hours the night before, and I like
Speaker 1: how it keeps increasing. Yeah, well, you know on a
Speaker 1: good day. And so you know that night, I like
Speaker 1: just probably fell asleep like within twenty seconds of like
Speaker 1: laying down in bed, and then like I something woke
Speaker 1: me up like a couple minutes later, and you really
Speaker 1: realize like that you there is like some powerful drugs
Speaker 1: being dumped into your body by your body, like when
Speaker 1: you fall asleep. It is like it's note like just
Speaker 1: like the shit that was happening in my mind when
Speaker 1: I just got like rocketed out of sleep, like is
Speaker 1: is pretty crazy? Like sleep is is the best. But
Speaker 1: as soon as you get that note a vacation on
Speaker 1: your phone that there's a new Reader's digest out, yes
Speaker 1: you know, you're like ten toes down, thank you gotta
Speaker 1: see what is the well, what's the other? Humor? Section
Speaker 1: is like that there's humoring uniform and then like something
Speaker 1: some other shit. There's some like homespun wisdom section that's right,
Speaker 1: very Marxist publication. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the opposite of Marxism. The Wall Street Journal had this
Speaker 1: article that Americans are encountering more problems with companies, products
Speaker 1: and services than ever before, and a higher proportion of
Speaker 1: them are actively seeking quote revenge for their troubles, a
Speaker 1: new study has found, which is intense. So that what
Speaker 1: do they mean by revenge? It's I think it's like
Speaker 1: writing nasty comments, like sending letters, you know, doing reaching
Speaker 1: out to the company and oh yes, just any sort
Speaker 1: of follow up action that's taken. Yes, but they the
Speaker 1: revenge is definitely what drew my attention. But it's also
Speaker 1: I don't know, so it's up songe is getting back together.
Speaker 1: But they're called customers want revenge. Yes, seventy four percent
Speaker 1: of the one thousand customers surveyed said they had experienced
Speaker 1: service problems in the last year, which is up sixty
Speaker 1: six percent from twenty twenty. And you know, more and
Speaker 1: more of them are seeking this vengeance, you know, a
Speaker 1: kill bill style revenge saga against Southwest Airlines or you
Speaker 1: know training that is the picture that used was a
Speaker 1: you know, some Southwest Airlines consumer facing person at an
Speaker 1: airport looking like they were twelve hours away from all
Speaker 1: of their hair falling out from just having to deal
Speaker 1: with just horrific toxicity. Well, shit, I wonder why, right exactly,
Speaker 1: I hope nobody, nobody is actually yelling at the people
Speaker 1: who are working because they're not in charge of the fuckery,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like every time, every time
Speaker 1: you have a problem at the counter of someplace, yelling
Speaker 1: at that person is not going to get back to
Speaker 1: the person who is responsible, you know exactly that I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's very convenient for corporations to
Speaker 1: do that exactly. You know, there's like my immediate thought is,
Speaker 1: of course, this has to do with all the supply
Speaker 1: line bullshit, where like I know somebody who got their
Speaker 1: catalytic converter stroling off. Their car needs a new catalytic converter,
Speaker 1: and so they're having a problem where all of the
Speaker 1: mechanics are like, we don't have any, and we don't
Speaker 1: know when we're going to get any, so we don't
Speaker 1: know when we can fix your car, and so it's
Speaker 1: not a customer complaint towards the Hannock. The mechanic has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, but there's definitely customer dissatisfaction.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you were to survey and be like,
Speaker 1: do you have problems being a consumer, we'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to do. It's not because the
Speaker 1: service is bad. It's because the shit's not there, yes,
Speaker 1: and the I mean also I think the service is
Speaker 1: bad in a lot of these cases, like with the
Speaker 1: airlines or you know, even with car companies, Like the
Speaker 1: car companies used to like prior to the pandemic were
Speaker 1: like more cons it was like more of a buyer's market,
Speaker 1: and now it's more of a fuck you, this is
Speaker 1: what we have market like and they're understaffed, yes, because
Speaker 1: they're wildly fucking understaffed. Everybody is so completely understaffed, like
Speaker 1: the Southwest Airlines thing is like all of the benefits
Speaker 1: of this current system fall to like the c suite
Speaker 1: and the people who are making decisions like at the
Speaker 1: higher levels and the companies who are the only thing
Speaker 1: they have to pay attention to in order to do
Speaker 1: their job and to feel like they're successful at the job.
Speaker 1: Is like how wall Street, Like Wall Street is the
Speaker 1: only incentive that they have to care about. And then
Speaker 1: all of the customer facing employees and the customer the
Speaker 1: consumers themselves are just like fighting a war between each
Speaker 1: other and just like becoming more and more miserable, and
Speaker 1: like this isn't I think this is invisible, Like this
Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that we just kind of
Speaker 1: It's like this is water type thing. It's like the
Speaker 1: weather is getting slowly worse, but we are not noticing
Speaker 1: it because we're just living in it day to day.
Speaker 1: But you know, all of these consumer indices are have
Speaker 1: gotten like way way worse since they started tragging them
Speaker 1: in like the nineteen seventies. They just get worse and
Speaker 1: worse and worse because everything has gotten less and less
Speaker 1: and less regulated. And the only thing that these companies
Speaker 1: have to pay any attention to is their stock prices,
Speaker 1: so they cut employees. They you know, they just do
Speaker 1: these things that make it impossible for the people at
Speaker 1: the lowest levels who are dealing with the consumers and
Speaker 1: make the consumers experience worse. And of course none of
Speaker 1: this is mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article. The
Speaker 1: only way, the only way that it registers to them
Speaker 1: is they're like, you know, they every time an angry
Speaker 1: consumer contacts a company that company's losing money, and that's
Speaker 1: one way to view it, But of course I don't
Speaker 1: think that even makes sense, just because it's a wasting
Speaker 1: their time so you have to like spend resources on
Speaker 1: dealing with it and also probably is like bad marketing,
Speaker 1: so I guess. But if you deal with it, well,
Speaker 1: then the customer will come back, and so then are
Speaker 1: you making money? But you have to pay money to
Speaker 1: deal with it. Well, like that's the damned thing about
Speaker 1: this market, like the if you're going to let the
Speaker 1: free market run your country, you have to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: this essentially means your country doesn't work like this, this
Speaker 1: system tell me more jack, Yeah, Like well, like they're
Speaker 1: just they feel like that's wasted time and wasted money,
Speaker 1: like spent dealing with angry customers, and if we all
Speaker 1: just agree to treat customers like shit, then like they
Speaker 1: don't really have another option. Well, this also kind of
Speaker 1: feels like one of those things where it's like you
Speaker 1: know that the fallacy that like the rate of left
Speaker 1: handedness went up after left handedness stopped being categorized as
Speaker 1: like a medical deficiency and started being categorized as just
Speaker 1: an alternate way of fucking writing yes, and so then
Speaker 1: the rate went up because people weren't being forced to
Speaker 1: write with their non dominant hand anymore. And this feels
Speaker 1: like that where it's like, you know, now that we
Speaker 1: have the Internet and Yelp and every company has to
Speaker 1: have a website, in a Twitter and an Instagram, there
Speaker 1: are so many more ways for angry customers to tell
Speaker 1: you how angry they are. So it's I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're angrier or if they just have easier access
Speaker 1: to you to tell you that they're upset. Because it
Speaker 1: used to be when you were mad at an airline
Speaker 1: that you could basically go fuck yourself, but now you
Speaker 1: can tweet at them and they have to pay attention. Right.
Speaker 1: But I mean they've been investing in like cute social media,
Speaker 1: like Southwest Airlines is like h mondays am I right,
Speaker 1: And then like so they have like somebody who they
Speaker 1: you know, pay a lot of money to like give
Speaker 1: their corporate brand a fucking like lovable personality, and at
Speaker 1: the same time, like satisfaction west Southwest Airlines couldn't be
Speaker 1: lower because that's like they don't fucking need to care
Speaker 1: about the consumer, because that is how the system is
Speaker 1: set up. It's just allowing them to focus on creating
Speaker 1: shareholder value. Yeah, let's okay, this is something I want
Speaker 1: to go back to here. So the American Customer Satisfaction Index,
Speaker 1: in my experience on a couple of a couple of
Speaker 1: different projects, innocuous names are sort of a flag and
Speaker 1: I want to figure like, is it crooked? That's my question?
Speaker 1: Is it like the American Consumer Satisfaction Index brought to
Speaker 1: you by Raytheon or whatever, you know, like like is this?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very easy, through any number of proxies
Speaker 1: and platforms to make something like that that appears to
Speaker 1: be a nonprofit. And again, the people working there, the
Speaker 1: people doing that research may actually not know the ultimate
Speaker 1: arbiters of it, you know, like what is also I
Speaker 1: don't trust the Wall Street Journal I'm sorry, no, I
Speaker 1: don't either. But it's just I ney to see how
Speaker 1: they I think they're taking a real like signal that
Speaker 1: they're getting that the consumer experience across all these different
Speaker 1: things is getting worse, and they're just treating it as
Speaker 1: like a symptom that like corporate CEOs need to pay
Speaker 1: attention to, like when crunching the numbers on their spreadsheets,
Speaker 1: as opposed to like a very real, like broad scale
Speaker 1: problem that is happening in the country where like they
Speaker 1: just like don't have to give a shit about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the consumers of their products or the people
Speaker 1: who work for them at the lower level, and they
Speaker 1: keep firing people because it's like fashionable to do so.
Speaker 1: And so it's just this world that is being run
Speaker 1: by people who like have absolutely no connection to what
Speaker 1: our lived experiences are like out in the world interacting
Speaker 1: with their products less they to sorry point unless they
Speaker 1: see the tweet, unless they see one of those other platforms,
Speaker 1: or like it's probably not them who has TikTok. It
Speaker 1: might be one of their kids, and their kid is
Speaker 1: running up and telling the parent, oh, there's something bad.
Speaker 1: You know, Like the president of Norfolk Southern lives here
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and you know before the yeah, right before
Speaker 1: the heat hit, maybe one of that guy's kids came
Speaker 1: up and said, oh, my god, dad, that looks like
Speaker 1: people aren't super happy with everything. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: tell me more about this social media you know, Monty
Speaker 1: Burn's hands and whatnot. I mean, it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful point that first off, there's some nomenclature too,
Speaker 1: to unpack. Calling people customers or consumers is a little
Speaker 1: tricky because it makes them sound like they're not people. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So it does though, even if with the problems that
Speaker 1: you've pointed out here, it does still feel like things
Speaker 1: are on the rise, but there's a dangerous disconnect and
Speaker 1: trying to attribute the reasons for that. Like you made
Speaker 1: the great point about understaffing, people aren't like, of course,
Speaker 1: there's a longer line. I was in Amsterdam a while back,
Speaker 1: and I like got to the airport early to get
Speaker 1: a plane out because I knew, you know, there were
Speaker 1: pending strikes. There were also very few people working at
Speaker 1: the airport, and when people are in a terrible situation,
Speaker 1: airports are often a terrible situation in general. They were
Speaker 1: not thinking of looking at the systemic causes. There are people,
Speaker 1: you know, with a family, and they're trying to get
Speaker 1: their family to the fucking other airport where they've got
Speaker 1: the layover because nobody can afford a direct flight for places,
Speaker 1: you know, and and they want someone to blame. And
Speaker 1: so a lot of people on the front lines of
Speaker 1: any customer service thing, they're having to be the scapegoats
Speaker 1: for the people at the top, and I think it's
Speaker 1: just gross, you know, like I don't know. And then
Speaker 1: those people are being like forced to work like that
Speaker 1: understaffing leads to people who are you know, being forced
Speaker 1: to work with the threat of like not having healthcare
Speaker 1: or being able to feed their family. And then like
Speaker 1: like the Wall Street Journal will publish an article being like,
Speaker 1: why are Americans so unhappy? Is it their phones? Is
Speaker 1: it because they have the language to describe unhappiness now
Speaker 1: that they are going to therapy, And it's like, no, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you have like a brutal like that. Americans are discovering rage,
Speaker 1: right they know, like they have the language to address
Speaker 1: it now, and so they are there for are like
Speaker 1: aware of their unhappiness and they're like, what is happening here?
Speaker 1: Like how has it gotten worse since the seventies? And
Speaker 1: it's because therapy is therapy? No right, jacket's mental health.
Speaker 1: It's been a scam the whole time. All it does
Speaker 1: is make people unsatisfied and make women unsatisfied with home life.
Speaker 1: That but that is like a legitimate thesis that is
Speaker 1: getting spread around out there instead of no, the overall
Speaker 1: economic conditions are worse because you have just allowed Wall
Speaker 1: Street to run the entire country. And that is what happens.
Speaker 1: Like the market doesn't functional, doesn't functionally work, doesn't create
Speaker 1: a functioning society, It creates this. I'm telling you the
Speaker 1: problem within houses. Just the doors are too small, says
Speaker 1: the Fox. You know what I mean, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like hey, hey, it's there's an older, excellent speech about that.
Speaker 1: But but this this idea is kind of nuts too,
Speaker 1: because we have to realize that there are there are
Speaker 1: plenty of like younger generations. If I were a parent
Speaker 1: right now, I would be a little concerned, which I
Speaker 1: know sounds very Fox News, but I'm going somewhere good
Speaker 1: with it. If I was a parent right now, I
Speaker 1: would I would be concerned about a kid who one
Speaker 1: day probably will get a job at some point and
Speaker 1: has to deal with this like how understaffed can a
Speaker 1: place be? How how long can align get? Who can
Speaker 1: who can afford these things? Like if you are working
Speaker 1: in at a call center, right in many cases your
Speaker 1: job is to get yelled at for like eight hours,
Speaker 1: not counting your mandatory overtime. And is that like when
Speaker 1: your kid tells you about their dream job, when they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be you know whatever. The first werewolf Aster,
Speaker 1: not on the moon. And then you say, well, you
Speaker 1: could have already had men anywhere, will faster knots on
Speaker 1: the moon. Yes, you're you're a Comcast fit. I think
Speaker 1: you should. You should be on the front lines of
Speaker 1: the Comcast phones whatever they're calling truly. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: am a parent. It's a nightmare. S. Yeah. They will
Speaker 1: all be one company, and they're most because I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that like we read about like
Speaker 1: there are these characters who like get turned into the
Speaker 1: main characters of the news, and they're all the CEOs.
Speaker 1: They're like the Elon Musks and like the you know,
Speaker 1: the people the Wall Street Journal like give names and
Speaker 1: faces too. But the vast majority of the country is
Speaker 1: the people who are on just like eating shit every
Speaker 1: day because of the decisions made by those people. And
Speaker 1: then the only way that that shit eating registers is
Speaker 1: in like these vague fucking like surveys where they're like
Speaker 1: consumers indicate that they're like less satisfied and more likely
Speaker 1: to just quote go fucking berserk as a result of
Speaker 1: the bad you know, It's just like if things was
Speaker 1: so hard for the peasants. Why do they have so
Speaker 1: much time to raise so much rabble about this? Exactly? Rowse,
Speaker 1: damn it whatever, leave it. And that's the truth, is
Speaker 1: that we don't have enough time to raise the rabble
Speaker 1: because we are trying. We're being worked like end to end,
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing that I think we saw
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when things like slowed down and everyone
Speaker 1: like looked around was like fuck all of this, and
Speaker 1: then the economy opened back up, and again people don't
Speaker 1: have enough time to raise rabble as they as they
Speaker 1: do in at least other countries around the around the globe. Anyways,
Speaker 1: true nightmare shit from the Wall Street Jarnal. Let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll be back to talk about sunny
Speaker 1: D with vodka. And we're back, and so it's sunny
Speaker 1: D what So you know, this is good news for
Speaker 1: people who like to get drunk at breakfast or after
Speaker 1: soccer practice with their friends. Uh, there's a new sunny
Speaker 1: D vodka Seltzer hitting store shelves this weekend, which I
Speaker 1: think is to compete with the Purple stuff vodka Seltzer. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so apparently this has been a thing for a
Speaker 1: while that like just in the screets, but like the
Speaker 1: market research must have captured the sunny D market research.
Speaker 1: There must be like some some sort of toxic chemical
Speaker 1: like byproduct of making mon santo like off or you know,
Speaker 1: like what you know, some sort of extremely lucrative product
Speaker 1: like creates something. Because they've just been trying to find
Speaker 1: ways to off load sunny D, like they just won't stop.
Speaker 1: They're like, we gotta get rid of the sunny D.
Speaker 1: They made a great lakes worth of sunny D in
Speaker 1: the eighties and haven't been and here just like trying
Speaker 1: to find ways to sell it ever since. But yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently people have been like there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people being like I've been mixing sunny D and liquors
Speaker 1: since the late two thousands. I want to welcome everyone
Speaker 1: to this fiasco, which I don't know. I can't think
Speaker 1: of a worst mixer because like that much sugar is
Speaker 1: just going to make you so hung over, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. I know everything has a has
Speaker 1: a Seltzer iteration. Now right at some point it seems logical,
Speaker 1: but what if not ethical? But sunny D? So there
Speaker 1: was somebody drinking a screwdriver at some point and they said,
Speaker 1: you know, would really make this fucking pop, like like
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, I see the eyebrows like opper, like
Speaker 1: you would really really do this. Guys, we're wasting our
Speaker 1: time drinking purple drink. Let's get back to the basics,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Let's let's get some vodka
Speaker 1: in our sunny D and you know, let's introduce our
Speaker 1: kids to daytime alcoholism. Yeah, yes, love it. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So sunny D has been a garbage product from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's excuse me, whoa No, it tastes like it tastes
Speaker 1: like pre vomit. It does. It's so it was a
Speaker 1: big hit in the night. It really tastes like that
Speaker 1: shit that I don't know if you guys are old
Speaker 1: enough to remember what like the school lunches, like juice
Speaker 1: boxes that would come or like but yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like orange drink. Yeah yeah, I think it was
Speaker 1: like the same thing, which again you had orange juice
Speaker 1: and you boiled it and then you left it in
Speaker 1: like a metal tank for five weeks and they could
Speaker 1: put it in little cardies for children and you can't
Speaker 1: call it. It's to the point where you can't legally
Speaker 1: call it orange juice. That's orange drap. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: and it's so sweet that it like mad. It's spicy somehow,
Speaker 1: like it makes the back of your throat hurt a
Speaker 1: little bit, like it's incredibly acidic. But they also had
Speaker 1: a lot of sugar, so you can't really taste it
Speaker 1: until it's in the back of your throat and it's
Speaker 1: like too late. Was originally marketed in the nineties as
Speaker 1: like the healthier option to soft drinks. It contained four
Speaker 1: to five percent juice, which, by the way, the fall
Speaker 1: off of juice. Like I thought juice was the healthiest
Speaker 1: ship when I was a kid, and now like it
Speaker 1: because they told us it was healthy. They were like,
Speaker 1: it's like eating a piece of fruit. It's not. Yes,
Speaker 1: but so cy d wasn't even they couldn't even be
Speaker 1: bothered to put more than four percent juice in their
Speaker 1: in their product. And it's ninety five percent just watery
Speaker 1: corn syrupe and a sweetener that is carcinogenic and not
Speaker 1: allowed to be sold in many countries around Yeah, most
Speaker 1: of Europe, most of the EU. It's like all right,
Speaker 1: because it was a wild sensation over there, So they
Speaker 1: introduced it. It became like skyrocketed to being one of
Speaker 1: the top like twelve thirteen like grocery store items that
Speaker 1: people were buying in grocery stores, like just the year
Speaker 1: it was introduced. Suddenly that was they were just consuming
Speaker 1: it like it was a fucking staple good, like it
Speaker 1: was rice or something, and people were drinking it so
Speaker 1: much that one four year old girl was drinking a
Speaker 1: leader and a half a day and it turned her
Speaker 1: skin yellow. And everyone was like, oh, this urban legend,
Speaker 1: and this is just like one of those things where
Speaker 1: an urban legend like hurts the marketing of a product,
Speaker 1: except it totally did turn in a girl's skin yellow
Speaker 1: due to the drink's beta karrote. So everybody reads that
Speaker 1: story as, yeah, but if you drank that much carrot juice,
Speaker 1: where you drank that much orange juice, you would also
Speaker 1: have your skin turn yellow, ignoring the fact that nobody
Speaker 1: would drink that much orange or carrot juice because it
Speaker 1: doesn't have like addictive chemical. It wasn't like engineered in
Speaker 1: a lab to be addictive like to four year olds,
Speaker 1: you sick focks. But yeah, it's so it is interesting
Speaker 1: that like one of the least problematic components of the
Speaker 1: drink is what scared people off. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just feels like we're on real nineties nostalgia kick.
Speaker 1: Yeah in the worst way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like the nineties, the nineteen nineties and the eighteen nineties,
Speaker 1: seventeen nineties not great, not great objectively. So so what's next?
Speaker 1: Because we saw this, we saw the icy ecto cooler, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that that had its its moment in the sunny, sunny
Speaker 1: d whatever to keep it. Yeah, and then we see
Speaker 1: also yeah, we also we see a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff coming back. I think, uh, gummy based school treats
Speaker 1: made made a brief comeback, right, So I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think we can get ahead of this if we want
Speaker 1: to be unethical and lean in zeigay, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the crazy nineties stuff that you would bring back? But
Speaker 1: worse right, what's stuff from your childhood that you wish
Speaker 1: also had vodka? I think it's also just a good
Speaker 1: metaphor for where we are as you know, a society
Speaker 1: run by corporations, so like you know, the market is
Speaker 1: the society, and the corporations have seemingly like given up
Speaker 1: on you know, like they were like so that there
Speaker 1: was an attempt in two thousand and three to like
Speaker 1: bring back sunny D but be like, it's actually more
Speaker 1: healthy than it was before. And think of this as
Speaker 1: you know, water with vitamins in it. And now they're
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, fuck it, just poor vodka
Speaker 1: in there. They keep trying to bring it back. You're right, yeah,
Speaker 1: there must be like okay, so you're picturing like a
Speaker 1: Land of Lakes size surplus as sunny D. They're a
Speaker 1: bunch of really powerful corporate types, like we got to
Speaker 1: push this sunny D on the kids. What if there's
Speaker 1: I'm picturing like Indiana Jones at the very end of
Speaker 1: whichever one that was in the franchise where they have
Speaker 1: the huge warehouse with all the dusty crates, but instead
Speaker 1: of like secret Nazi artifacts, yeah okay, it was raiders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so instead of all the secret Nazi artifacts, they've got
Speaker 1: sunny D. And somebody's like, one day history will remember
Speaker 1: and we'll have our revenge. So they were health juice,
Speaker 1: then they went vodka. What's next, Like, what's the next
Speaker 1: iteration for sunny D? Actually, if you pour it in
Speaker 1: your windshield wiper fluid. It actually makes a great It
Speaker 1: gums up your windshield, but it like makes things look
Speaker 1: kind of cool, kind of stained glass smearie, which was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like Coca Cola. Coca Cola was like, uh, are we
Speaker 1: the healthiest drink? No, But we can clean the shit
Speaker 1: out of pennies, right, yeah, we can clean a car accident,
Speaker 1: a fatal car accident, offer of the highway. That's that's
Speaker 1: our thing. But yeah, I mean that this seems to
Speaker 1: go along with, you know, the gambling being legal and
Speaker 1: everything of it, just the fuck it mask off hyper
Speaker 1: capitalism that we're all living through. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: are you guys in. I guess that that was the
Speaker 1: first question. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, okay, definitely yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there was never a question, right, Like I think
Speaker 1: all of us are in. Usually the Seltzers don't say
Speaker 1: that their vodka though, because that like limits where you
Speaker 1: can sell. Usually they're like a malt Seltzer beverage of
Speaker 1: some sort. But this one they're just like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we just dumped some vodka in it, because that's what
Speaker 1: we do here at Sunny D Headquarters. We're just kind
Speaker 1: of waiting out the end of the collapse of Western
Speaker 1: civilization over here. So I don't know, Well, we'll see hopefully.
Speaker 1: You know, Sunny d is our national drink again, Does
Speaker 1: you still have them? Oh? Are you kidding me? It
Speaker 1: has the vitamins you need on a daily basis, So
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's healthy. We were wrong. We started off
Speaker 1: on the wrong foot here, you know. So another way
Speaker 1: that nineties eighties nostalgia is comment is rearing its head
Speaker 1: is one that I'm actually kind of into. Teenage Mutant
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles. They dropped the trailer for the new like
Speaker 1: seth Rogen produced reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe.
Speaker 1: Like Michael Bay I think had had this for a
Speaker 1: little while and like made the most recent Teenage Mutant
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles movies, and this seems more to have seems
Speaker 1: to have more in common with like Spider Verse than
Speaker 1: anything like there's just like a lot of cool animation
Speaker 1: kind of mixing together. The trailer is fun. Of course,
Speaker 1: that immediately became the subject of Fox News opinion pieces
Speaker 1: where they're like, April of Meal is black and you know,
Speaker 1: racist people were racist people who can accept giant reptiles
Speaker 1: that do martial arts, but not a black TV news reporters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't reflect the reality of our society in
Speaker 1: which the news reporters are redheads that's right, right, who
Speaker 1: never washed their clothes or change one costume. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: news reporters are redheaded. Megan Foxes, I mean, let me
Speaker 1: ask you something, Jack, when's the last time you saw
Speaker 1: a white character in anything? Can't remember? Can you? Well?
Speaker 1: I wow, little white children are growing up not thinking
Speaker 1: they'll grow up to be black? Is that what you want?
Speaker 1: Is that the future you want to get? Day drunk?
Speaker 1: My child came home crying because somebody told them that
Speaker 1: they were white. The original April and Neil, by the way,
Speaker 1: from the comics was intended to be mixed race. Kevin
Speaker 1: Eastman based it on his wife at the time, who's
Speaker 1: named April, who was mixed race. And then the comic
Speaker 1: books when they like released the because they were originally
Speaker 1: like black and white comics, and then when they released
Speaker 1: the color versions, they hit hedge, you know, whitewashed it
Speaker 1: into a Caucasian woman with wow, yeah, wow, justice for April,
Speaker 1: thank you. But yeah, they like when the Ninja Turtles
Speaker 1: first came out, like the right, was like super pissed
Speaker 1: off because they're just generally mad, and so anything that
Speaker 1: comes across they're they're going to be mad at. But
Speaker 1: they're in particular they were like the secret So they
Speaker 1: got turned into turtles by toxic waste, okay, environmentalist dogma,
Speaker 1: nice try, so they thought they were the I'll read
Speaker 1: a quote from a nineteen ninety one syndicated column from
Speaker 1: Stephen Chapman, the muscle bound little reptiles, I regret to
Speaker 1: inform you have a political agenda, which is the same
Speaker 1: color as their shells. Green. Oh no, we got them
Speaker 1: open and shut case right there. The muscle bound little
Speaker 1: reptiles also feels like horny to me. It's definitely horny. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a like anything, there's there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a personal backstory, I think. But this
Speaker 1: was before the takeover a big therapy ruined ruined everybody, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I loved teenage mutant ninja turtles
Speaker 1: because I didn't really think. I think, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you don't really think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: you as kids, we all love the we all love
Speaker 1: unreasonable stuff. Phrased in a confident way. Some people don't
Speaker 1: grow out of that, and they're called conservatives. But if
Speaker 1: you look at if you look at the argument here,
Speaker 1: it's a really cool not preaching thing about some guy
Speaker 1: sort of pulling this mad lib game out. He's like, okay, turtles,
Speaker 1: that's an animal, all right, teenage that's a blah blah
Speaker 1: blah mutants too, you know what else is fucking coolin
Speaker 1: Do I know much about them? No? And you can
Speaker 1: tell by the way that the turtle, you know, you
Speaker 1: can tell by their martial arts style. I'm probably talking
Speaker 1: to too much about the turtles. But but so like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is animated, this is all? Is this like? Okay,
Speaker 1: the main thing people are objecting to is that April
Speaker 1: O'Neal is portrayed closer to the original version of April
Speaker 1: that existed in the comics. And we haven't had people
Speaker 1: come out objecting about the toxic waste thing yet. But
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was that was an issue,
Speaker 1: is like, is well, they I guess there were also,
Speaker 1: like everything in the early nineties, there was also a
Speaker 1: like people were just discovering such thing as the environment,
Speaker 1: and so you know, the Captain Planet of it all.
Speaker 1: Like I think there were some episodes that had plots
Speaker 1: that portrayed corporations like disposing of radioactive waste irresponsibly. You
Speaker 1: know shit that actually happens. Isn't that how they became
Speaker 1: mutant turtles. Yeah, that's how they became mutant turtles. And
Speaker 1: then they they and then they like fought people who
Speaker 1: like did irresponsible things with like farm like agricultural dunt
Speaker 1: like it's all ship that's like ripped from the headlines.
Speaker 1: But they were just like, well, that's not okay because
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to criticize corporations. Also, there was a
Speaker 1: UK panic over martial arts themed like anything that was
Speaker 1: had the word ninja attached to it in the early
Speaker 1: nineties in the UK, like the media was panicking about,
Speaker 1: like the Daily Mail published a story of a four
Speaker 1: year old who nearly bled to death after karate kicking
Speaker 1: on glass door as he mimicked his television heroes in
Speaker 1: the Ninja Turtles cartoon cult. I have to say, if
Speaker 1: if you have been around children, I understand this point
Speaker 1: of view. I understand this point of view of please
Speaker 1: don't teach children about martial arts without actually teaching them
Speaker 1: about martial arts. Sure, you know, because like if you
Speaker 1: take a kid to a karate class, they learn a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about where you should and shouldn't do karate.
Speaker 1: But man, kids that watch Teenage Mutan Ninitia Turtles, they're chopping.
Speaker 1: They're chopping everything, but they're not everything. Even before they
Speaker 1: have seen teenage Mud, they're gonna figure out the concept
Speaker 1: of nunchucks. Yeah, they're gonna. Yeah, they know how to
Speaker 1: pick up a big stick and spin it around a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and no, nobody's uh yeah, that's the idea. I think
Speaker 1: like that kid was gonna kick some shit anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe it get tagged to something. But but also
Speaker 1: there's no objection here about the weird Asian caricatures like Shredder.
Speaker 1: The if I recall Shredder, the main nemessies of the
Speaker 1: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, his big power is that he's
Speaker 1: an evil Asian guy. Yeah, and I think that just generally,
Speaker 1: there's probably like this is sublimating some like racist parent
Speaker 1: energy about like having to work alongside and see Asian
Speaker 1: American people or like you know, Asian people for the
Speaker 1: first time in the UK and like blaming them for
Speaker 1: shit that their children are doing. Like I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: some of that that. There was like just a wild
Speaker 1: ninja moral panic in the early nineties. Base my dumbass
Speaker 1: kid wouldn't have done anything wrong, right, it know about
Speaker 1: those ninjas, damn ninjas. Wow, But like I don't know
Speaker 1: that I would, like I wanted to jump through a
Speaker 1: glass door since before my brain started making memories, Like
Speaker 1: my first memory exists in a brain that wants to
Speaker 1: jump through a glass door, like just because that's cool
Speaker 1: as fuck. Like I Another part of the moral panic
Speaker 1: was they were like children are playing in the sewers
Speaker 1: now because of the Ninja Turtles. I played in the sewers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a kid, but it was because I wanted
Speaker 1: to imitate. Like I wasn't into the Ninja Turtles. I
Speaker 1: was into Pennywise. I thought Penny No. I was into
Speaker 1: the goonies. I thought like the goonies were cool and
Speaker 1: they crawled around on the turtles, but nobody cared about that. Well,
Speaker 1: the sewers are like a secret passage us if you
Speaker 1: don't know about toxic waste, or if you know about
Speaker 1: dangerous things and hygiene, and that seems it seems kind
Speaker 1: of dope. You know. Yeah, I'm becoming and exploring the
Speaker 1: sewers apologist. My bad guys. Yeah, it's robably not good
Speaker 1: for kids, but I did it and it was super
Speaker 1: fun and mysterious down there. Highly recommend my eleven year
Speaker 1: old self highly recommends it. My you know, eleven's probably
Speaker 1: a little old. I was probably more like nine or ten.
Speaker 1: But how did you even get down there? There was
Speaker 1: like a creek that ran by my house that just
Speaker 1: like went it way, uh like cement tunnel that went
Speaker 1: under the street, but then it like branched off into
Speaker 1: a bunch of sewers under the storm. I think it
Speaker 1: was like I think it was mainly like storm drains,
Speaker 1: but it was because I lived in Dayton, Ohio, and
Speaker 1: that was what they just don't know famous, they're famous
Speaker 1: for their are accessibility. You'd think that there would be
Speaker 1: like some bars up, and there were in many of them.
Speaker 1: I've been. I checked out many a underground creek and
Speaker 1: storm drain, and the most like most of them had bars,
Speaker 1: but the one by my house was just an open,
Speaker 1: open passage into the underground bring back open storm drains. Yes,
Speaker 1: just don't play outside anymore. Yeah, sorry, sorry, were you
Speaker 1: not exploring storm trains. I don't tours. No, I was not.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I was. I'm so surprised as
Speaker 1: to how you've been got in there because all of
Speaker 1: the storm drains that I can remember were like in
Speaker 1: a creek bed and the and the creek bed was
Speaker 1: like you couldn't access the creek it was it was
Speaker 1: like the La River. It was like lined with concrete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I remember like in Chinatown there's a like
Speaker 1: storm drain thing, but I think it has bars over it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. But is that why
Speaker 1: you're so good at karate now? It is I just
Speaker 1: gained the power of Ninja two from being in the underground,
Speaker 1: which is why you're not allowed around glass doors in
Speaker 1: the studios. Like yeah, yeah, so it's wise policy, Ben Bolin,
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