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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two, seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Dirty at Least Guys Stay production by

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Our co host today is laughing at the

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Speaker 1: fact that I just screamed that in my father in

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Speaker 1: law study. Well, Jack's gone in to do his thing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we do important things dad,

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Speaker 1: like take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's

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Speaker 1: actually up, is what I call him. It's Thursday, March Night,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien. Ak. I love

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Speaker 1: it when you call my legs plump burns, call my

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Speaker 1: wife my wife while talking state strife. I love it

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Speaker 1: when you call my legs plump. First, get that TikTok

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Speaker 1: out of my face, and please don't shoot up the place.

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Speaker 1: Why because the American people don't have any health care. Ohcare.

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Speaker 1: That's just courtesy of LOCARONI in the discord, doing the

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Speaker 1: lord worse, just churning him out day after day. And

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Speaker 1: my father in law did hear me just saying that.

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Speaker 1: I'm very impressed. I could tell by the way he

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Speaker 1: rolled his eyes and just slammed swimmed the door. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's a lovely man. I'm just joking. I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined by today's guest co host, a hilarious comedian, writer,

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Speaker 1: director viral sensation, in honor of International Women's Day. She's

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Speaker 1: going to be eating peanut butter pretzels all episode. It's

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Speaker 1: Sarah Joe, what up? Sorry, Juna, Sara SEPs A k A, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's what you And you can't say anything.

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Speaker 1: You can't say International Women's Day. And if you say

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Speaker 1: something about here, Si, you're so fucking sexist. You're so funny,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to report you to the International Women's Counsel, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna beat your cool that I refer to

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Speaker 1: it as International Ladies Day? Is that cool? Yeah? Right, good?

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Speaker 1: It is funny that, like in America is kind of

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Speaker 1: a joke, but in the rest of the world it's

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Speaker 1: a legitimate holiday. Yeah, of course, Like yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Salary month, it's International Women's Day. But like my cousin

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Speaker 1: like sincerely wished me a happy International Women's Day, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, thank you so much. Man, that's awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're thrilled to be joined once again by a writer

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Speaker 1: who's one of the best podcast hosts, executive producers out

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Speaker 1: here doing it, you know, from stuff that don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know, ridiculous history, the new podcast. Let's start

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Speaker 1: a coup. Please welcome Ben Boeo. I should have brought snacks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, sir, thank you, thank you Jack

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Speaker 1: for having me back on. You know, every time that

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to drop by this show, I say,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness. You all have such terrible taste in friends.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I at the point where I

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Speaker 1: can write my own akas? Or you got something? You

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Speaker 1: got some locked in low? Yeah, you're you're at that

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Speaker 1: who the second you come on the show? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: forget every time every time I come to the show.

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Speaker 1: Jag and Miles have some crazy aka's. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: at this point they outsourced them people on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: the Reddit in the discorder doing all this. But that's

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Speaker 1: the thing is you've got to get on like a

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Speaker 1: week ahead and be like, zite, fam I need a

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Speaker 1: ka's please please, And then they'll send you references to

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Speaker 1: songs you've never heard of. Yeah, amazing, Okay. Then I

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Speaker 1: am in full disclosure not freestyling these. I did think

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Speaker 1: about some of these, so if they're my fault. Some

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Speaker 1: of them I used in the past. Then heed both

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Speaker 1: hands aka Max Powers, asked ronaut with a secret aka

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Speaker 1: doctor Awkward. That's a balindrome. Uh and aka mister redacted.

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Speaker 1: If those work, damn will allow them? Yes, I like

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Speaker 1: mister redacted. That's mysterious. Yeah, and it'll it'll, it'll come

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Speaker 1: into play later. Sorry, I'll ask I'll ask you all

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Speaker 1: but you're on the Daily Zeitgeist and it's International Women's Day,

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Speaker 1: So i'd ask you. I'll pump some brakes. Podcasting from

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Speaker 1: not his house. This is my house. This is my house. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: this is my house. Dad. All right, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. Ben. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. There's such a thing as a customer

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Speaker 1: rage index, and we're gonna check in with it. The

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal wrote an article those like American consumers

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's new anti woke comedy club, which one Jack.

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Speaker 1: He just opened a new one, and people are like

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Speaker 1: she wearing Is she wearing the denim twenty four seven? Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's uh, her pronouns are kiss

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Speaker 1: It's an antique. And so yeah, that's right now with vodka.

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Speaker 1: teenage mutant ninja turtles. Uh, some of these things we

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Speaker 1: might talk about, but plenty moore. First, Ben, we do

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history? Oh? Okay, here it comes. We're we we

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Speaker 1: set it up with the AKA. So we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a sect. But first, did you all know

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Speaker 1: that there can be houses considered legally haunted? I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that. That seems who decides that in this case?

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Speaker 1: there is a show I do call Ridiculous History as

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Speaker 1: an episode that probably like just came out as we're

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Speaker 1: all hearing this, s Zight Gang, which is guest toasted

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Speaker 1: do respect International Women's Day. So if you the plot thickens,

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Speaker 1: Day on the eighth, right, so we're we're doing this

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Speaker 1: all the day after we're recording it on International Women's Wow.

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Speaker 1: Question is Jack, how much do you respect women? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So only for twenty four hours of perspect I was

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Speaker 1: just we are trending yesterday was host by super producers

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Speaker 1: really interesting story. But for you all saw Jack, you

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Speaker 1: gotta know. I just found out the US Witness Protection

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Speaker 1: program lets you choose your own name, like when you're

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Speaker 1: telling everybody that your name is Max Power's astronaut with

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Speaker 1: And back to legally haunted. Who on the witness stand Like,

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Speaker 1: they have to pay attention to in order to do

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00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: their job and to feel like they're successful at the job.

423
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Is like how wall Street, Like Wall Street is the

424
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: only incentive that they have to care about. And then

425
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: all of the customer facing employees and the customer the

426
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: consumers themselves are just like fighting a war between each

427
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: other and just like becoming more and more miserable, and

428
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: like this isn't I think this is invisible, Like this

429
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that we just kind of

430
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: It's like this is water type thing. It's like the

431
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: weather is getting slowly worse, but we are not noticing

432
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: it because we're just living in it day to day.

433
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: But you know, all of these consumer indices are have

434
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: gotten like way way worse since they started tragging them

435
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: in like the nineteen seventies. They just get worse and

436
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: worse and worse because everything has gotten less and less

437
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: and less regulated. And the only thing that these companies

438
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: have to pay any attention to is their stock prices,

439
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: so they cut employees. They you know, they just do

440
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: these things that make it impossible for the people at

441
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the lowest levels who are dealing with the consumers and

442
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: make the consumers experience worse. And of course none of

443
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: this is mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article. The

444
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: only way, the only way that it registers to them

445
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: is they're like, you know, they every time an angry

446
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: consumer contacts a company that company's losing money, and that's

447
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: one way to view it, But of course I don't

448
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: think that even makes sense, just because it's a wasting

449
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: their time so you have to like spend resources on

450
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: dealing with it and also probably is like bad marketing,

451
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: so I guess. But if you deal with it, well,

452
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: then the customer will come back, and so then are

453
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you making money? But you have to pay money to

454
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: deal with it. Well, like that's the damned thing about

455
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: this market, like the if you're going to let the

456
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: free market run your country, you have to acknowledge that

457
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: this essentially means your country doesn't work like this, this

458
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: system tell me more jack, Yeah, Like well, like they're

459
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: just they feel like that's wasted time and wasted money,

460
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: like spent dealing with angry customers, and if we all

461
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: just agree to treat customers like shit, then like they

462
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: don't really have another option. Well, this also kind of

463
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: feels like one of those things where it's like you

464
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: know that the fallacy that like the rate of left

465
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: handedness went up after left handedness stopped being categorized as

466
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: like a medical deficiency and started being categorized as just

467
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: an alternate way of fucking writing yes, and so then

468
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: the rate went up because people weren't being forced to

469
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: write with their non dominant hand anymore. And this feels

470
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: like that where it's like, you know, now that we

471
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: have the Internet and Yelp and every company has to

472
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: have a website, in a Twitter and an Instagram, there

473
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: are so many more ways for angry customers to tell

474
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: you how angry they are. So it's I don't know

475
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: if they're angrier or if they just have easier access

476
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: to you to tell you that they're upset. Because it

477
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: used to be when you were mad at an airline

478
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: that you could basically go fuck yourself, but now you

479
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: can tweet at them and they have to pay attention. Right.

480
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: But I mean they've been investing in like cute social media,

481
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: like Southwest Airlines is like h mondays am I right,

482
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: And then like so they have like somebody who they

483
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, pay a lot of money to like give

484
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: their corporate brand a fucking like lovable personality, and at

485
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: the same time, like satisfaction west Southwest Airlines couldn't be

486
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: lower because that's like they don't fucking need to care

487
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: about the consumer, because that is how the system is

488
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: set up. It's just allowing them to focus on creating

489
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: shareholder value. Yeah, let's okay, this is something I want

490
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: to go back to here. So the American Customer Satisfaction Index,

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00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: in my experience on a couple of a couple of

492
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: different projects, innocuous names are sort of a flag and

493
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: I want to figure like, is it crooked? That's my question?

494
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Is it like the American Consumer Satisfaction Index brought to

495
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you by Raytheon or whatever, you know, like like is this?

496
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very easy, through any number of proxies

497
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: and platforms to make something like that that appears to

498
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: be a nonprofit. And again, the people working there, the

499
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: people doing that research may actually not know the ultimate

500
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: arbiters of it, you know, like what is also I

501
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: don't trust the Wall Street Journal I'm sorry, no, I

502
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: don't either. But it's just I ney to see how

503
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: they I think they're taking a real like signal that

504
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: they're getting that the consumer experience across all these different

505
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: things is getting worse, and they're just treating it as

506
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: like a symptom that like corporate CEOs need to pay

507
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: attention to, like when crunching the numbers on their spreadsheets,

508
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: as opposed to like a very real, like broad scale

509
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: problem that is happening in the country where like they

510
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: just like don't have to give a shit about, like,

511
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, the consumers of their products or the people

512
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: who work for them at the lower level, and they

513
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: keep firing people because it's like fashionable to do so.

514
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: And so it's just this world that is being run

515
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: by people who like have absolutely no connection to what

516
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: our lived experiences are like out in the world interacting

517
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: with their products less they to sorry point unless they

518
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: see the tweet, unless they see one of those other platforms,

519
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: or like it's probably not them who has TikTok. It

520
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: might be one of their kids, and their kid is

521
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: running up and telling the parent, oh, there's something bad.

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00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, Like the president of Norfolk Southern lives here

523
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and you know before the yeah, right before

524
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: the heat hit, maybe one of that guy's kids came

525
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: up and said, oh, my god, dad, that looks like

526
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: people aren't super happy with everything. And he's like, well,

527
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: tell me more about this social media you know, Monty

528
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Burn's hands and whatnot. I mean, it's I think it's

529
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful point that first off, there's some nomenclature too,

530
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: to unpack. Calling people customers or consumers is a little

531
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: tricky because it makes them sound like they're not people. Yeah, right,

532
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: So it does though, even if with the problems that

533
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: you've pointed out here, it does still feel like things

534
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: are on the rise, but there's a dangerous disconnect and

535
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: trying to attribute the reasons for that. Like you made

536
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: the great point about understaffing, people aren't like, of course,

537
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: there's a longer line. I was in Amsterdam a while back,

538
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: and I like got to the airport early to get

539
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: a plane out because I knew, you know, there were

540
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: pending strikes. There were also very few people working at

541
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: the airport, and when people are in a terrible situation,

542
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: airports are often a terrible situation in general. They were

543
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: not thinking of looking at the systemic causes. There are people,

544
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, with a family, and they're trying to get

545
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: their family to the fucking other airport where they've got

546
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: the layover because nobody can afford a direct flight for places,

547
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, and and they want someone to blame. And

548
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: so a lot of people on the front lines of

549
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: any customer service thing, they're having to be the scapegoats

550
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: for the people at the top, and I think it's

551
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: just gross, you know, like I don't know. And then

552
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: those people are being like forced to work like that

553
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: understaffing leads to people who are you know, being forced

554
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: to work with the threat of like not having healthcare

555
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: or being able to feed their family. And then like

556
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: like the Wall Street Journal will publish an article being like,

557
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: why are Americans so unhappy? Is it their phones? Is

558
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: it because they have the language to describe unhappiness now

559
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: that they are going to therapy, And it's like, no, motherfucker,

560
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: you have like a brutal like that. Americans are discovering rage,

561
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: right they know, like they have the language to address

562
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: it now, and so they are there for are like

563
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: aware of their unhappiness and they're like, what is happening here?

564
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: Like how has it gotten worse since the seventies? And

565
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: it's because therapy is therapy? No right, jacket's mental health.

566
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: It's been a scam the whole time. All it does

567
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: is make people unsatisfied and make women unsatisfied with home life.

568
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: That but that is like a legitimate thesis that is

569
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: getting spread around out there instead of no, the overall

570
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: economic conditions are worse because you have just allowed Wall

571
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: Street to run the entire country. And that is what happens.

572
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Like the market doesn't functional, doesn't functionally work, doesn't create

573
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: a functioning society, It creates this. I'm telling you the

574
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: problem within houses. Just the doors are too small, says

575
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: the Fox. You know what I mean, Like yeah, yeah,

576
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: like hey, hey, it's there's an older, excellent speech about that.

577
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: But but this this idea is kind of nuts too,

578
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: because we have to realize that there are there are

579
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: plenty of like younger generations. If I were a parent

580
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: right now, I would be a little concerned, which I

581
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: know sounds very Fox News, but I'm going somewhere good

582
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: with it. If I was a parent right now, I

583
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: would I would be concerned about a kid who one

584
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: day probably will get a job at some point and

585
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: has to deal with this like how understaffed can a

586
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: place be? How how long can align get? Who can

587
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: who can afford these things? Like if you are working

588
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: in at a call center, right in many cases your

589
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: job is to get yelled at for like eight hours,

590
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: not counting your mandatory overtime. And is that like when

591
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: your kid tells you about their dream job, when they're like, oh,

592
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to be you know whatever. The first werewolf Aster,

593
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: not on the moon. And then you say, well, you

594
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: could have already had men anywhere, will faster knots on

595
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: the moon. Yes, you're you're a Comcast fit. I think

596
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: you should. You should be on the front lines of

597
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: the Comcast phones whatever they're calling truly. Yeah, yeah, I

598
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: am a parent. It's a nightmare. S. Yeah. They will

599
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: all be one company, and they're most because I mean,

600
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that like we read about like

601
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: there are these characters who like get turned into the

602
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: main characters of the news, and they're all the CEOs.

603
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: They're like the Elon Musks and like the you know,

604
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: the people the Wall Street Journal like give names and

605
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: faces too. But the vast majority of the country is

606
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: the people who are on just like eating shit every

607
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: day because of the decisions made by those people. And

608
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: then the only way that that shit eating registers is

609
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: in like these vague fucking like surveys where they're like

610
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: consumers indicate that they're like less satisfied and more likely

611
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: to just quote go fucking berserk as a result of

612
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: the bad you know, It's just like if things was

613
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: so hard for the peasants. Why do they have so

614
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: much time to raise so much rabble about this? Exactly? Rowse,

615
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: damn it whatever, leave it. And that's the truth, is

616
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: that we don't have enough time to raise the rabble

617
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: because we are trying. We're being worked like end to end,

618
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing that I think we saw

619
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when things like slowed down and everyone

620
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: like looked around was like fuck all of this, and

621
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: then the economy opened back up, and again people don't

622
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: have enough time to raise rabble as they as they

623
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: do in at least other countries around the around the globe. Anyways,

624
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: true nightmare shit from the Wall Street Jarnal. Let's take

625
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll be back to talk about sunny

626
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: D with vodka. And we're back, and so it's sunny

627
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: D what So you know, this is good news for

628
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: people who like to get drunk at breakfast or after

629
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: soccer practice with their friends. Uh, there's a new sunny

630
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: D vodka Seltzer hitting store shelves this weekend, which I

631
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: think is to compete with the Purple stuff vodka Seltzer. Yeah. Yeah,

632
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: but so apparently this has been a thing for a

633
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: while that like just in the screets, but like the

634
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: market research must have captured the sunny D market research.

635
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: There must be like some some sort of toxic chemical

636
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: like byproduct of making mon santo like off or you know,

637
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: like what you know, some sort of extremely lucrative product

638
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: like creates something. Because they've just been trying to find

639
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: ways to off load sunny D, like they just won't stop.

640
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: They're like, we gotta get rid of the sunny D.

641
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: They made a great lakes worth of sunny D in

642
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: the eighties and haven't been and here just like trying

643
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: to find ways to sell it ever since. But yeah,

644
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: apparently people have been like there are a lot of

645
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: people being like I've been mixing sunny D and liquors

646
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: since the late two thousands. I want to welcome everyone

647
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: to this fiasco, which I don't know. I can't think

648
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: of a worst mixer because like that much sugar is

649
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: just going to make you so hung over, isn't it. Yeah,

650
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. I know everything has a has

651
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: a Seltzer iteration. Now right at some point it seems logical,

652
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: but what if not ethical? But sunny D? So there

653
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: was somebody drinking a screwdriver at some point and they said,

654
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, would really make this fucking pop, like like

655
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, I see the eyebrows like opper, like

656
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: you would really really do this. Guys, we're wasting our

657
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: time drinking purple drink. Let's get back to the basics,

658
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Let's let's get some vodka

659
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: in our sunny D and you know, let's introduce our

660
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: kids to daytime alcoholism. Yeah, yes, love it. Yeah yeah.

661
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: So sunny D has been a garbage product from the beginning.

662
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: It's excuse me, whoa No, it tastes like it tastes

663
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: like pre vomit. It does. It's so it was a

664
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: big hit in the night. It really tastes like that

665
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: shit that I don't know if you guys are old

666
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: enough to remember what like the school lunches, like juice

667
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: boxes that would come or like but yeah, yeah, it

668
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: was like orange drink. Yeah yeah, I think it was

669
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: like the same thing, which again you had orange juice

670
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: and you boiled it and then you left it in

671
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: like a metal tank for five weeks and they could

672
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: put it in little cardies for children and you can't

673
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: call it. It's to the point where you can't legally

674
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: call it orange juice. That's orange drap. Yeah, yeah, it's

675
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: and it's so sweet that it like mad. It's spicy somehow,

676
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: like it makes the back of your throat hurt a

677
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: little bit, like it's incredibly acidic. But they also had

678
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: a lot of sugar, so you can't really taste it

679
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: until it's in the back of your throat and it's

680
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: like too late. Was originally marketed in the nineties as

681
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: like the healthier option to soft drinks. It contained four

682
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: to five percent juice, which, by the way, the fall

683
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: off of juice. Like I thought juice was the healthiest

684
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: ship when I was a kid, and now like it

685
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: because they told us it was healthy. They were like,

686
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: it's like eating a piece of fruit. It's not. Yes,

687
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: but so cy d wasn't even they couldn't even be

688
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: bothered to put more than four percent juice in their

689
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: in their product. And it's ninety five percent just watery

690
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: corn syrupe and a sweetener that is carcinogenic and not

691
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: allowed to be sold in many countries around Yeah, most

692
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: of Europe, most of the EU. It's like all right,

693
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: because it was a wild sensation over there, So they

694
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: introduced it. It became like skyrocketed to being one of

695
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: the top like twelve thirteen like grocery store items that

696
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: people were buying in grocery stores, like just the year

697
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: it was introduced. Suddenly that was they were just consuming

698
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: it like it was a fucking staple good, like it

699
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: was rice or something, and people were drinking it so

700
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: much that one four year old girl was drinking a

701
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: leader and a half a day and it turned her

702
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: skin yellow. And everyone was like, oh, this urban legend,

703
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: and this is just like one of those things where

704
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: an urban legend like hurts the marketing of a product,

705
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: except it totally did turn in a girl's skin yellow

706
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: due to the drink's beta karrote. So everybody reads that

707
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: story as, yeah, but if you drank that much carrot juice,

708
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: where you drank that much orange juice, you would also

709
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: have your skin turn yellow, ignoring the fact that nobody

710
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: would drink that much orange or carrot juice because it

711
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have like addictive chemical. It wasn't like engineered in

712
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: a lab to be addictive like to four year olds,

713
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: you sick focks. But yeah, it's so it is interesting

714
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: that like one of the least problematic components of the

715
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: drink is what scared people off. But yeah, I don't know.

716
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: It just feels like we're on real nineties nostalgia kick.

717
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah in the worst way, you know what I mean,

718
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Like the nineties, the nineteen nineties and the eighteen nineties,

719
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: seventeen nineties not great, not great objectively. So so what's next?

720
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Because we saw this, we saw the icy ecto cooler, yeah, right,

721
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: that that had its its moment in the sunny, sunny

722
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: d whatever to keep it. Yeah, and then we see

723
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: also yeah, we also we see a lot of this

724
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: stuff coming back. I think, uh, gummy based school treats

725
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: made made a brief comeback, right, So I'm starting to

726
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: think we can get ahead of this if we want

727
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: to be unethical and lean in zeigay, what's the what's

728
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: the crazy nineties stuff that you would bring back? But

729
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: worse right, what's stuff from your childhood that you wish

730
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: also had vodka? I think it's also just a good

731
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: metaphor for where we are as you know, a society

732
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: run by corporations, so like you know, the market is

733
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: the society, and the corporations have seemingly like given up

734
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: on you know, like they were like so that there

735
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: was an attempt in two thousand and three to like

736
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: bring back sunny D but be like, it's actually more

737
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: healthy than it was before. And think of this as

738
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, water with vitamins in it. And now they're

739
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, fuck it, just poor vodka

740
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: in there. They keep trying to bring it back. You're right, yeah,

741
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: there must be like okay, so you're picturing like a

742
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: Land of Lakes size surplus as sunny D. They're a

743
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: bunch of really powerful corporate types, like we got to

744
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: push this sunny D on the kids. What if there's

745
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm picturing like Indiana Jones at the very end of

746
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: whichever one that was in the franchise where they have

747
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: the huge warehouse with all the dusty crates, but instead

748
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: of like secret Nazi artifacts, yeah okay, it was raiders. Yeah,

749
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: so instead of all the secret Nazi artifacts, they've got

750
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: sunny D. And somebody's like, one day history will remember

751
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: and we'll have our revenge. So they were health juice,

752
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: then they went vodka. What's next, Like, what's the next

753
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: iteration for sunny D? Actually, if you pour it in

754
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: your windshield wiper fluid. It actually makes a great It

755
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: gums up your windshield, but it like makes things look

756
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: kind of cool, kind of stained glass smearie, which was fun. Yeah,

757
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: Like Coca Cola. Coca Cola was like, uh, are we

758
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: the healthiest drink? No, But we can clean the shit

759
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: out of pennies, right, yeah, we can clean a car accident,

760
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: a fatal car accident, offer of the highway. That's that's

761
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: our thing. But yeah, I mean that this seems to

762
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: go along with, you know, the gambling being legal and

763
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: everything of it, just the fuck it mask off hyper

764
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: capitalism that we're all living through. So I don't know,

765
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: are you guys in. I guess that that was the

766
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: first question. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, okay, definitely yeah, yeah, I

767
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: mean there was never a question, right, Like I think

768
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: all of us are in. Usually the Seltzers don't say

769
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: that their vodka though, because that like limits where you

770
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: can sell. Usually they're like a malt Seltzer beverage of

771
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: some sort. But this one they're just like, yeah, man,

772
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: we just dumped some vodka in it, because that's what

773
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: we do here at Sunny D Headquarters. We're just kind

774
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: of waiting out the end of the collapse of Western

775
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: civilization over here. So I don't know, Well, we'll see hopefully.

776
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: You know, Sunny d is our national drink again, Does

777
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: you still have them? Oh? Are you kidding me? It

778
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: has the vitamins you need on a daily basis, So

779
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's healthy. We were wrong. We started off

780
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: on the wrong foot here, you know. So another way

781
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: that nineties eighties nostalgia is comment is rearing its head

782
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: is one that I'm actually kind of into. Teenage Mutant

783
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles. They dropped the trailer for the new like

784
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: seth Rogen produced reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe.

785
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: Like Michael Bay I think had had this for a

786
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: little while and like made the most recent Teenage Mutant

787
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles movies, and this seems more to have seems

788
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: to have more in common with like Spider Verse than

789
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: anything like there's just like a lot of cool animation

790
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of mixing together. The trailer is fun. Of course,

791
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: that immediately became the subject of Fox News opinion pieces

792
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: where they're like, April of Meal is black and you know,

793
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: racist people were racist people who can accept giant reptiles

794
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: that do martial arts, but not a black TV news reporters. Yeah,

795
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: it just doesn't reflect the reality of our society in

796
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: which the news reporters are redheads that's right, right, who

797
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: never washed their clothes or change one costume. Yeah, all

798
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: news reporters are redheaded. Megan Foxes, I mean, let me

799
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: ask you something, Jack, when's the last time you saw

800
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a white character in anything? Can't remember? Can you? Well?

801
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I wow, little white children are growing up not thinking

802
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: they'll grow up to be black? Is that what you want?

803
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Is that the future you want to get? Day drunk?

804
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: My child came home crying because somebody told them that

805
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: they were white. The original April and Neil, by the way,

806
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: from the comics was intended to be mixed race. Kevin

807
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: Eastman based it on his wife at the time, who's

808
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: named April, who was mixed race. And then the comic

809
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: books when they like released the because they were originally

810
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: like black and white comics, and then when they released

811
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: the color versions, they hit hedge, you know, whitewashed it

812
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: into a Caucasian woman with wow, yeah, wow, justice for April,

813
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: thank you. But yeah, they like when the Ninja Turtles

814
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: first came out, like the right, was like super pissed

815
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: off because they're just generally mad, and so anything that

816
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: comes across they're they're going to be mad at. But

817
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: they're in particular they were like the secret So they

818
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: got turned into turtles by toxic waste, okay, environmentalist dogma,

819
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: nice try, so they thought they were the I'll read

820
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a quote from a nineteen ninety one syndicated column from

821
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: Stephen Chapman, the muscle bound little reptiles, I regret to

822
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: inform you have a political agenda, which is the same

823
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: color as their shells. Green. Oh no, we got them

824
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: open and shut case right there. The muscle bound little

825
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: reptiles also feels like horny to me. It's definitely horny. Yea, yeah,

826
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a like anything, there's there's a

827
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: little bit of a personal backstory, I think. But this

828
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: was before the takeover a big therapy ruined ruined everybody, right,

829
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I loved teenage mutant ninja turtles

830
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: because I didn't really think. I think, like a lot

831
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: of people, you don't really think about it. You know,

832
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: you as kids, we all love the we all love

833
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: unreasonable stuff. Phrased in a confident way. Some people don't

834
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: grow out of that, and they're called conservatives. But if

835
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: you look at if you look at the argument here,

836
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: it's a really cool not preaching thing about some guy

837
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: sort of pulling this mad lib game out. He's like, okay, turtles,

838
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: that's an animal, all right, teenage that's a blah blah

839
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: blah mutants too, you know what else is fucking coolin

840
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: Do I know much about them? No? And you can

841
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: tell by the way that the turtle, you know, you

842
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: can tell by their martial arts style. I'm probably talking

843
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: to too much about the turtles. But but so like, okay,

844
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: so this is animated, this is all? Is this like? Okay,

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Speaker 1: the main thing people are objecting to is that April

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Speaker 1: O'Neal is portrayed closer to the original version of April

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Speaker 1: that existed in the comics. And we haven't had people

848
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Speaker 1: come out objecting about the toxic waste thing yet. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was that was an issue,

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Speaker 1: is like, is well, they I guess there were also,

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Speaker 1: like everything in the early nineties, there was also a

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Speaker 1: like people were just discovering such thing as the environment,

853
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Speaker 1: and so you know, the Captain Planet of it all.

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Speaker 1: Like I think there were some episodes that had plots

855
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Speaker 1: that portrayed corporations like disposing of radioactive waste irresponsibly. You

856
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Speaker 1: know shit that actually happens. Isn't that how they became

857
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Speaker 1: mutant turtles. Yeah, that's how they became mutant turtles. And

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Speaker 1: then they they and then they like fought people who

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Speaker 1: like did irresponsible things with like farm like agricultural dunt

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Speaker 1: like it's all ship that's like ripped from the headlines.

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Speaker 1: But they were just like, well, that's not okay because

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to criticize corporations. Also, there was a

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Speaker 1: UK panic over martial arts themed like anything that was

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Speaker 1: had the word ninja attached to it in the early

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Speaker 1: nineties in the UK, like the media was panicking about,

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Speaker 1: like the Daily Mail published a story of a four

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Speaker 1: year old who nearly bled to death after karate kicking

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Speaker 1: on glass door as he mimicked his television heroes in

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Speaker 1: the Ninja Turtles cartoon cult. I have to say, if

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Speaker 1: if you have been around children, I understand this point

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Speaker 1: of view. I understand this point of view of please

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Speaker 1: don't teach children about martial arts without actually teaching them

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Speaker 1: about martial arts. Sure, you know, because like if you

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Speaker 1: take a kid to a karate class, they learn a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff about where you should and shouldn't do karate.

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Speaker 1: But man, kids that watch Teenage Mutan Ninitia Turtles, they're chopping.

877
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Speaker 1: They're chopping everything, but they're not everything. Even before they

878
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Speaker 1: have seen teenage Mud, they're gonna figure out the concept

879
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Speaker 1: of nunchucks. Yeah, they're gonna. Yeah, they know how to

880
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Speaker 1: pick up a big stick and spin it around a lot. Yeah,

881
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: and no, nobody's uh yeah, that's the idea. I think

882
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: like that kid was gonna kick some shit anyway, you know,

883
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Speaker 1: and maybe it get tagged to something. But but also

884
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Speaker 1: there's no objection here about the weird Asian caricatures like Shredder.

885
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Speaker 1: The if I recall Shredder, the main nemessies of the

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, his big power is that he's

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Speaker 1: an evil Asian guy. Yeah, and I think that just generally,

888
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Speaker 1: there's probably like this is sublimating some like racist parent

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Speaker 1: energy about like having to work alongside and see Asian

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Speaker 1: American people or like you know, Asian people for the

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Speaker 1: first time in the UK and like blaming them for

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Speaker 1: shit that their children are doing. Like I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: some of that that. There was like just a wild

894
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Speaker 1: ninja moral panic in the early nineties. Base my dumbass

895
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Speaker 1: kid wouldn't have done anything wrong, right, it know about

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Speaker 1: those ninjas, damn ninjas. Wow, But like I don't know

897
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Speaker 1: that I would, like I wanted to jump through a

898
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Speaker 1: glass door since before my brain started making memories, Like

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Speaker 1: my first memory exists in a brain that wants to

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Speaker 1: jump through a glass door, like just because that's cool

901
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: as fuck. Like I Another part of the moral panic

902
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Speaker 1: was they were like children are playing in the sewers

903
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Speaker 1: now because of the Ninja Turtles. I played in the sewers. Yeah,

904
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Speaker 1: it was a kid, but it was because I wanted

905
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Speaker 1: to imitate. Like I wasn't into the Ninja Turtles. I

906
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Speaker 1: was into Pennywise. I thought Penny No. I was into

907
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Speaker 1: the goonies. I thought like the goonies were cool and

908
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: they crawled around on the turtles, but nobody cared about that. Well,

909
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: the sewers are like a secret passage us if you

910
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Speaker 1: don't know about toxic waste, or if you know about

911
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: dangerous things and hygiene, and that seems it seems kind

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Speaker 1: of dope. You know. Yeah, I'm becoming and exploring the

913
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Speaker 1: sewers apologist. My bad guys. Yeah, it's robably not good

914
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Speaker 1: for kids, but I did it and it was super

915
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Speaker 1: fun and mysterious down there. Highly recommend my eleven year

916
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Speaker 1: old self highly recommends it. My you know, eleven's probably

917
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Speaker 1: a little old. I was probably more like nine or ten.

918
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Speaker 1: But how did you even get down there? There was

919
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Speaker 1: like a creek that ran by my house that just

920
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Speaker 1: like went it way, uh like cement tunnel that went

921
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: under the street, but then it like branched off into

922
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Speaker 1: a bunch of sewers under the storm. I think it

923
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Speaker 1: was like I think it was mainly like storm drains,

924
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Speaker 1: but it was because I lived in Dayton, Ohio, and

925
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Speaker 1: that was what they just don't know famous, they're famous

926
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Speaker 1: for their are accessibility. You'd think that there would be

927
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Speaker 1: like some bars up, and there were in many of them.

928
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I've been. I checked out many a underground creek and

929
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Speaker 1: storm drain, and the most like most of them had bars,

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Speaker 1: but the one by my house was just an open,

931
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Speaker 1: open passage into the underground bring back open storm drains. Yes,

932
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Speaker 1: just don't play outside anymore. Yeah, sorry, sorry, were you

933
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Speaker 1: not exploring storm trains. I don't tours. No, I was not.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why I was. I'm so surprised as

935
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Speaker 1: to how you've been got in there because all of

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Speaker 1: the storm drains that I can remember were like in

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Speaker 1: a creek bed and the and the creek bed was

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Speaker 1: like you couldn't access the creek it was it was

939
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Speaker 1: like the La River. It was like lined with concrete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I remember like in Chinatown there's a like

941
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: storm drain thing, but I think it has bars over it, right, Yeah,

942
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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. But is that why

943
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: you're so good at karate now? It is I just

944
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: gained the power of Ninja two from being in the underground,

945
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Speaker 1: which is why you're not allowed around glass doors in

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Speaker 1: the studios. Like yeah, yeah, so it's wise policy, Ben Bolin,

947
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Speaker 1: Pleasure having you as always? Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff? Oh yeah, pleasure to

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Speaker 1: be back as always. Thank you for have weird taste

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Speaker 1: footnote link to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Superproducer Justin is there a song that

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Speaker 1: you think people might enjoy? Yeah, Jack, you were speaking

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Speaker 1: to y'all then bye. By