1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Yo, what's up? Shiman d J d W rec And 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing today, eating while broke, chilling 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: here with my girl Colleen with and we're going to 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: be whipping up a little broke meal. Little meal I 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: used to make you know when I was when uh 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: money was a little bit short. Nice? So what are 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: you gonna have me eat today? Because well you could 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: just I guess walk through the ingredients, all right, So 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? What we have here? This is 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: just regular bologning, like you know, bologna and cheese, and 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: which is type of bologna, kindergarden food. This yere is 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: beef top ramen and then butter it and said, what 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna make is beef top ramen with fried bologny. 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Got it? So this is an extremely affordable this affordable this, 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: I mean this is this might be thirty cents right here. 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: This is thirty cents. What all the big money was 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: spent here? The butter. It's like all these dishes, like 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the nutritional value is like so low. Yeah, it's not. 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with that. It's all about 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: feeling the tummy, filling the tummy. Well, why don't you 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: fill our tummy and start cooking for us because I'm hungry. Okay, 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: this is what we do since since the top ramen 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: is already unpackaged, we're just gonna put it in the 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: in the boiling water. Most of the time, I kind 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: of break it up a little bit for you know, 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: you break it at hungry just because you know, other 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: than that, you're if you don't break it, then you're 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: having spaghetti. So I put im make it in a 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: little I'll break it in a little four little okay, 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: little top ramen pods. So there's a method to the matter. 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: There's a method to it. So what I just did 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: was I put the top ramen in the boiling water, 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: let it boil, and I use just to kind of 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna get soft, and so if you don't want to, 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't want it to get too soft. Okay. So 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: when was the time you ate this dish? Probably like 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: nine seven, So since ninety seven you have not resorted 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: back to this. I haven't. I haven't added fried bologny, 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: but just sometimes like on a late night, you know, 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to eat a huge like I'm hungry, 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: but I don't want to eat anything like heavy. I'll 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: make like, you know, a little top run or something. 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: So what we'll do now is we're gonna add We're 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna fry the blood. Okay. So what we want to 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: do is it's just on right here, that is on. Okay, 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: where are we? Don't burn yourself? No, I don't know 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: what the insurance policy, what you guys kind of insurance? 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're on eating more broke, So I don't 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: have too much faith in it. So right now I'm 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: putting a little butter on the in this skillet, just 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: to you know. And now is that for it's to 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: not stick or for it to actually just to you 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: know kind of this is it adds labor and look 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: calcium calcium, got it? This is calcium on the package. Yeah, 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: go for it. Okay, so you get yourself a couple 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: of these here boom, let that fry up? All right? 57 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So what what this is gonna do? And this is 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: what everybody did that fries bacon knows this It should uh, 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: it should create able Okay. So we're looking for the bubble, 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: waiting for the bubble. So take us back to seven. 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: What was going on in I was a cashier at 62 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Costco wholesale, and I was living in l A. I 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: was a cashier at Costco hostel and I was just 64 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: out in l A doing what I call the Hollywood shuffle. Um, 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: I got that from a Robert Townsend movie, but I 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: was really doing that. I'm still Hollywood shuffling, but just 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: on a different level now. Um and uh, auditioning for 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: different TV shows and and and you know, dance gigs 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. So you are a dancer, Yes, I should 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: do I should dance for different artists and music videos 71 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean you 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: see the bubble, yeah, Bubble'll see the bubble. I see it. 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: So are you supposed to pop it? Oh? Yeah, part 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: of it being fun. So you wanted to kind of 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: be a little crispy not to Christmas. So that's the 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: whole point of frying is for the texture. Well, yeah, 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: for the texture and to add protein to to your meal. Okay, 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now do we know what 79 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: really is in boloney? Is it like one of those 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: hot dog things? Are probably? I mean it doesn't look 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: like you should just shave this off the side of 82 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: a cow. So so when did you realize you wanted 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: to get into entertainment. When I was a little kid. 84 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: I used to watch like, you know, Good Times and 85 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the Jeffersons and Different Strokes and things like that, and 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I would see these actors that I was I would 87 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: always emulate anyway, you know it was you know he 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: acts like I mean, I would, you know, kind of 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, emulate the young black actors that were out. 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, like I was always mimicking j J or 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: something and uh, you know doing it what you're talking about. Well, 92 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: it's all that kind of stuff like that. And then 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the TV show Fame came out, and I was like 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I could dance too, and then be born and breaking 95 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: came you know, all that stuff. So I was like 96 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I used to enter like little hip hop dance contests 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: and things like that, and uh and I would win 98 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: like first, second or third place, and I was winning money. 99 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: So my mom wouldn't have to uh give me much 100 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: allowance because I was always winning, like, you know, a 101 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: few dollars at Chuck E Cheese every weekend. Yeah. So 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: then so she did she standed up supporting that because 103 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: you're always winning her Well, it was it wasn't that 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: I was. It wasn't She didn't support me because I 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: was winning. She just didn't discourage me. You know, like 106 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: when I said, Okay, Mom, I'm gonna go to this 107 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: little kid's club and we're gonna you know, it's gonna 108 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: be like a breaking battle or whatever, popping battle and 109 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You see. Right now, I'm chopping up 110 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: the belogni because you gotta put little pieces of bologni 111 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: in the ramen. Year when we turned it down a 112 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: little bit, it's it's actually smells pretty good. Yes, it's 113 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: not bad. It's not bad, okay. So right now I'm 114 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna turn off the rat it, okay, because we don't 115 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: want to get too soft. Yeah. I like my ramen 116 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: where it's like I don't know what that means, sounds 117 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: like it's like a little harder, like you know, I 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: don't like my ram and too soft. Right, So right 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna pour off some of this water right 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: because I don't like it. I don't like it too soupy. 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah me either. Don't be like me. Don't try to 122 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: promise you. I always drain it. I don't like it 123 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: too soft, and I don't like it too soupy, So 124 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I pour it off enough to wear the water in 125 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: the rama are about the same level. Okay, got it, 126 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: all right, So we do that. So it's a little 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: bit soupy, but in fact, let me turn off a 128 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: little bit, pour off a little bit more, all right, 129 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: that actually smells pretty good. I'm not saying I would 130 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: like go and eat, you know, pack of baloney. But 131 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna be making this at the crib by yourself. 132 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's see how bad or how well 133 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: eating will broke does. So just purring that. So let 134 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: me tell you what we're doing now. So right now, 135 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna season to see, didn't need package right now, 136 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna season at the time where we're gonna 137 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna dump it into the into the noodles, into 138 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the pot with the noodles, and you just empty all 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: the contents of that. So you just want to you 140 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: just want to, you know, stir that up in there now. 141 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: You want to get that a little bit not too crispy, 142 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: but a little bit crispy. And um. While and that 143 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: went away. So I was back to Hollywood shuffling with 144 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: without a job. And when you say Hollywood shuffling, that's 145 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: like auditions or you just are you trying to find 146 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: places to DJ auditions, uh, DJ, and you know DJ 147 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: gigs and stuff like that, you know, but uh, I 148 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: really wanted to do. You know. DJ has been good 149 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: to me, you know since I started DJ, and uh 150 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and being on television is great because it actually gets 151 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: me more DJ gigs. But uh, you know, I like 152 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: I like acting and that's really hard to get in too, 153 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, so every nothing. Then you know, you book 154 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: a few commercials, you book two or three commercials a year, 155 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: and you're doing all right, but uh, you know when 156 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: it's when it's dry, it's dry, you know, So right now, 157 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do? He kind of looks like a 158 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: little bacon bits. Yeah, see little bacon bits here cutting 159 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: this up. You put that in there like that, you 160 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: cut it up. What you do, You gotta mix it 161 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: all up, mix it up a little bit. This is 162 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: what it looks like overhead cam. Alright. Nice. When you're 163 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: doing the Hollywood shuffle and things dry up, is there 164 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: like a special thing you do in your mind to 165 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: handle the cash flow going up and down. You just 166 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: want to keep your your sanity and know that you're 167 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: still in the right place, You're still with your thank you. 168 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: You're welcome, you know what I mean. Like, so there 169 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: are times that I would feel like, man, maybe maybe 170 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: show business is not for me. And there were times 171 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: you oh, yeah, there were times when I felt that way, 172 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: you know. And then you know, I get a call 173 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: from my agent for an audition and it will conflict 174 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: with something that I have to do, like you know, 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: maybe I booked or maybe i'm you know, doing a 176 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: day job or something like that, and then they're like 177 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: they're they're like, well, if you go to this audition, 178 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: you're not you know, you might as well just quit. 179 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: And so, you know, my passion is show business, so 180 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I would just go to the audition and then you know, 181 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: look the commercial and then it kind of reassures you 182 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: and let you know, remind you that you are where 183 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. Now, did you have any naysayers 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: around you that would make you doubt yourself or was 185 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: it just all like in your head where the doubt 186 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: would come and go? Um. I never really had any naysayers. Um. 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: But you know, any time if you ever have to 188 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: call a family member to tell you, you know, to 189 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: borrow money. Family member was a state man, you need 190 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: what you need to do. You need to move back home, 191 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: and you need to get a job, a real job, 192 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: you know. And those are the same family members, are 193 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: the same good friends or whatever that when you know 194 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: you're back doing what you do or what you set 195 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: out to do, those are the same people to tell 196 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: you that they knew you were going to make it. 197 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, I knew he's gonna make it. Man, how 198 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: do you feel about men? It was something special about 199 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: you when I first met you. How do you feel 200 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: about that when you it's the nature of the business. Yeah, wow, 201 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's try to try your cooking. And I 202 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: like that it's not too soupy. It's not too soupy. 203 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: So you look a little soft everybody. I'm not trying 204 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: to judge him, but because she was talking to me, 205 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I normally don't, you know, 206 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: cook it as long as I did. So Colleen's fault. 207 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: It was good m hm, soft noodles on. You're welcome you. 208 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm sorry for a gapping. When do you 209 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: feel like you were officially confident that the entertainment business 210 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: was where you were going to be? Like, was there 211 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: a level of like checks had to ride before you 212 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, this is it, I'm never turning back 213 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to Costco. Or well, I got fired from Costco so 214 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't go back to Costco. Why did you get 215 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: fired because I went to an audition When I had it, 216 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I had a jerk for for for a supervisor. Do 217 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you shop at Costco? Finding? Okay? Do you ever like 218 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: when you see someone that did that type of thing 219 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: to you? Do you ever like wish you could bump 220 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: into them? I waved to him, why does he still 221 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: work there? Still Costco? He's one of those dudes. I 222 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: knew you were gonna make it. He probably takes side 223 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: tries to take credit. Do you know I'm gonna fire man? 224 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Just to encourage me? Kenny? Can I cuts on here? 225 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: It's funny. I had Celebrity High, as you know. And 226 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: when I was creating the company, I worked at country Wide. 227 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: This was right before the crash, and yes, country Wide 228 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: played rolling. They had yeah, probably they had everyone, And 229 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: uh I remember I was doing Celebrity High and I 230 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: would have like the little posters of like what this 231 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: magazine was going to be, and a lot of my 232 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: coworkers would come by my desk the girls and they 233 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: would laugh at me because I drove a bucket that 234 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: like I could start with anything. And uh. I remember 235 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: country Wide fired me and I cried because I was broke. 236 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I was only making like ten dollars an hour, and 237 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: of the ten dollars an hour, I was investing into 238 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: this idea. And I remember calling my grandfather and he 239 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: was just like, I'm so happy they fired you. And 240 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: I was like, how am I gonna pay my My 241 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: rom was like four a month. Do you remember when 242 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: was that cheap? And uh? But yeah, I looked back 243 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: and ironically enough, I am thankful that they fired me, 244 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: because sometimes that's that last inch you need to like 245 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: push your drive even further. Right, Yeah, absolutely, because I 246 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: mean one thing that I did have, I had health 247 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: insurance through Costco. I had if I needed to get 248 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: more hours at work, I could just you know, go 249 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: to switch the full time for like six months. And 250 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get fired from Costco. Um so, 251 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: but getting fired from Costco definitely lit a fire under 252 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: my behind and I had to I mean from there, 253 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I was a waiter at the soul food restaurant, you know. Uh, 254 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: and then right when I booked book that keeps saying. Right, 255 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: when I started waiting at this restaurant, I got this 256 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: gig um that took me to Korea for like six 257 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: months that paid me like and asked, well, at that time, 258 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: what felt like an astronomical amount of money? And so 259 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: I went over there and K pop groups and stuff. 260 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Was at your first time flying out of the country. Absolutely, yeah, 261 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were excited. I was, but I also 262 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: knew what you know, the money is what motivated because 263 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: if I could have stayed here made that money, I 264 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: would have, but there were no other offers at that point. Now, 265 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: was there ever anything that you did where say you like, 266 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: for instance, do you take wilding Out? And I know 267 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: wilding Out doesn't have a huge like every month schedule 268 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: is probably a couple of weeks. But have you ever 269 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: gotten an opportunity while you secured another opportunity? What was 270 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity that you felt like you wish you you 271 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: didn't have to say no to? Um? Well, one thing 272 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do is say no to whiling out. Yeah, um, 273 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: but one of the things I mean. I So, what 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: happened when I there was one gig that I booked, 275 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: I booked a tour dancing for a popular artist and 276 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: m But the week before I went to the audition 277 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: for the dance audition, I auditioned for this big McDonald's commercial. 278 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Every day we're seeing everybody. So I went to the audition, 279 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: and then that following week audition for the dance. I 280 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: went to the commercial audition, and then that following week 281 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: audition for the artist and um to be a dancer, 282 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and then during that week I got a call back 283 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: for the McDonald's commercial. Right, so I went to the callback, 284 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and I'm starting rehearsals for the the the dance, the 285 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: dance gig. So then you know, that's in the beginning 286 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: of the week. And then at the end of the week, 287 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I get back from rehearsal for the dance gig and 288 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm at home chilling. Is a Friday, and I didn't 289 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: get a call. I hadn't gotten a call from my 290 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: agent to let me know whether or not I booked 291 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: this gig, the commercial gig, and I'm laying in my 292 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: bed and I'm like, I'm looking at my watching this 293 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: like five something. I know the agency closest at six, 294 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I'm not gonna get this get 295 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: this gig five forty five fifty my phone rings and 296 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: my agent caused me. She says, uh, um, you just 297 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: put yourself un you know this commercial. I was like, what, 298 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, She says, you shoot next third, next Friday, 299 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: so a week from that day. That day, I was 300 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: so that following week I was supposed to leave to 301 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: go to Orlando to do the first show for this 302 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: tour on Thursday. So which and that first show is 303 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: going to be on Friday when you're typing the commercial. 304 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: So I asked the choreographer and you know, talk to 305 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: the artists and stuff, and said, hey, I booked this commercial. 306 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I really want to do this gig. I really want 307 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: to do the dance gig, but I really need to 308 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: do this commercial. And I said, so they had like dancers, 309 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: so they could have just you know, allowed me to do, 310 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, miss that first show. I said, hey, can 311 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: I miss the first show? And they were like, well 312 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: if you can't miss. If you can't do the first show, 313 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: then you can't do the gig. You said, peace, and 314 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: he said to McDonald's, McDonald's paid more. Yeah, even though 315 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I would I would have loved that had that experience 316 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: dancing for that artist. But once I did, that was 317 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: my first major commercial that I was the star of. 318 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: It was me and a whole bunch of little kids. Yeah, 319 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: it was literally me and a bunch of kids and 320 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: a a a McDonald's rapper that was like flying through 321 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: there and so but that just made me say, I am. 322 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: I am where I'm supposed to be. So what would 323 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: you say, like two people that are trying to get 324 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: in the game, you know, like, what would you say 325 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: to those that may have been trying for the last 326 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: five us ten years and still haven't been able to 327 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: make a decent check, but they're still going out? I 328 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: would say, you mean you still auditioning and things like that, 329 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: and they're starting to doubt themselves maybe they're in their 330 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: mid thirties, or I mean, keep a day job, like 331 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: you know, take care of yourself and your responsibilities. But 332 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: I mean, show business is not for everybody. But I'm 333 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: not I'm not the one to tell anybody to give up, 334 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just if you feel that passion, just 335 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: keep pressing. Have you ever met, like say, a guy 336 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: that wants to be a rapper, a girl that wants 337 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: to be a rapper, and you're like you heard their 338 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: music and it's just not where it's where you think 339 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: it should be at. Do you do you ever tell 340 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: them to maybe look into alternatives or do you just no? 341 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: I never discourage people because I mean those people all 342 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the time, because they're they're a way. There are much 343 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: more people that are not good at you know, they're 344 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: not good artists or they're just they're just not there yet. 345 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: But you know, I wasn't always there, So you just 346 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: keep going. You get better, but you still have to, like, 347 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: don't go rob banks and support that habit. Yeah, you 348 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: gotta keep a job. If you've got kids and responsibilities, 349 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do to survive, you know, 350 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: including eating alone round exactly. And I'm enjoying mine. She 351 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't look like I have to ask questions and have 352 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: a whole interview. But the second the cameras cut, I'm 353 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna be taking a couple of extra fights. What season 354 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: are you on a walling out? Now? We just wrap 355 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: season sixteen? Sixteen seasons? What would you say is the 356 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: one thing you walked away learning the most of benefiting 357 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: the most from walling out? I would say that even 358 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: though as steady as that gig is it can still 359 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: go away like that. Speaking of that, when the whole 360 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: controversy with the Jewish and wilding out and some of 361 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the comments Nick made, did a part of you panic 362 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: a little bit that there was a chance that the 363 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: show wasn'tna come back, or have you been there before 364 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: so you were prepared? I was not prepared. UM kind 365 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: of panned a little bit because I mean, at this point, 366 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I have a family, and you know, this is my 367 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: main source of income. I mean, I've been on the 368 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: show of since day one, you know what I mean? 369 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: And so, uh, I literally if all I did was 370 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: wilding out, that's all I have to do. Yeah. So yeah, 371 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: So so I panicked a little bit. But then, I mean, 372 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: I know Nick and I kind of understood everything that 373 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: was kind of was happening, and I was in touch 374 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: with Um, with other producers on the show, the executive 375 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: producers was in touch with Nick and everybody. So we 376 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: were having conversations, and I felt confident that we were 377 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: going to come back, you know. And then one of 378 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: the the most um negative people on this show and 379 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: one of the most negative producers on the show, he 380 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: called me and he said, we'll be back we just 381 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: gotta work some things out. Once he felt confident that 382 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: we'd be back, then, um, I felt really confident. But 383 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: I just you know, it doesn't matter how much money 384 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: you have when money is just going out. I mean, 385 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the pandemic, it was when the 386 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: show went away, and then you couldn't get other gigs 387 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: because you know, there weren't many other gigs you could 388 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: get that we're paying the kind of money that you 389 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: needed to sustain the lifestyle that you already have. So 390 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: when that happened, I was like, Okay, I'm confident that 391 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. When when are we gonna come 392 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: back now? Because pretty soon, when money is just going 393 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: out and doesn't matter how much you have, you know 394 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: you gotta take care of that overhead. No, I'm just 395 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: curious just to get into the Devil's advocates say it 396 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: didn't come back, and you know you have your family, 397 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: would you ever like if pandemic because during the pandemic 398 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: there was no tape and there was absolutely nothing going on. 399 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Would you ever, you know, do whatever job. I love 400 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: that you are really enjoying this dish. I'm gonna save 401 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: mine just so we could just but um, would you ever? 402 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Are you? Do you feel like you're above going back 403 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: and getting a real job just to support your family. No, 404 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: I do not feel like I want above. That's and 405 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I would have done that if if I need to, 406 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: And I still do that if I have to. Wow, 407 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: that's amazing. That's amazing to hear that. Now. When I 408 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: saw the whole controversy with the While and Out, so 409 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't feel like anything Nick said was controversial. 410 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to say controversial. It was a total 411 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: negative slant. I thought maybe his quotes were missed, he 412 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: didn't quote them. Well, but I understand what cancel culture. 413 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: It's like you're you're really skating on the nice while Now. 414 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting because there's a level of comedian 415 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: breach where nothing is off the table, but yet cancel culture. Yeah, 416 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: but cancel culture hasn't even come for some of the 417 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: stuff that While and Out has, you know, some of 418 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: the jokes that have aired on this show. But do 419 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: you feel like now that cancel culture is becoming more 420 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: of a mainstream being comics are starting or when you 421 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: guys in your writing room, they're starting to be like, well, 422 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe we should inch away from this. I mean, I 423 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't know all that Nick said. I never 424 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: saw all of that whole podcast Um episode. But I 425 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: think that what it has done is it it has 426 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: made people that like comedians just more aware because comedians, 427 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they don't care what 428 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: anybody like. That's their freedom to They're not the PC police. 429 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: But and you know, and comedians that they want to 430 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: they want to say what they want to say. I mean, 431 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: they community are some demented people, a lot of them, 432 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, to find humor in some of 433 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: the most tragic things, or just to to find humor 434 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: just everyday life that we all live. And uh, you know, 435 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: they tell their experience and and you know we all 436 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: laugh from that because we can relate to it's all relatable. 437 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, that should be something that they're allowed to do, 438 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: but it's aware. It definitely has made us aware. And 439 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: I think that what makes I my little brother is 440 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: a comedian, my husband's a comedian. When I look at them, 441 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, what makes you guys great is actually keeping 442 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: it real. To put a censor on on comedy is 443 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: a weird space, right, I mean, to my understanding. Nick 444 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: wasn't telling jokes at the time, you know, he was 445 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: doing he was doing his podcast interview and people get offended. 446 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: You can't help how people feel, you know, and people 447 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: are gonna feel the way they're gonna feel. And not 448 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be happy with you, you know. But I'm 449 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: going to post the most positive posts on Instagram or 450 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: social media and somebody's gonna have something negative. You'd have 451 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: a thousand positive comments and the one that's gonna stick 452 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: out is the negative one. Yeah. Yeah, when you and 453 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Nick got together, this was long before whiling out or 454 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: did you have to audition onto walling out and you 455 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: guys just built your relationship from there. No, I met Nick. 456 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: I met Nick in ninety seven. We didn't start wilding 457 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: Out until two thousand four. So and actually wilding Out 458 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: was created in my living room. Yeah, because at the 459 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: time Nick was renting, uh he was, he was my roommate. 460 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: So in North Hollywood, in Studio City. I was gonna say, 461 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: not the walk up where you cannot that. So you 462 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: guys were roommates, and then he conceived this idea in 463 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: the living room. Yeah, we were just at the crib, 464 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, just acting silly doing you know, I can't 465 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: remember everything we were. We're just doing stupid stuff. And 466 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: then you know, Nick comes up with this idea and 467 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: says it can be a TV show. And we were 468 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: at that time, we were doing the whole you know, 469 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: we were on tour. We had been on tour, were 470 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: doing like the Scream Tour and the and he had 471 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: like a little not a little, a little rap career, 472 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: but he had I think it was like jo or something. 473 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: He had something out and we were doing a lot 474 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: of shows. So you guys weren't necessarily broke then, but 475 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: you guys were like, yeah, but we were still living 476 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck, you know, I mean record deals. It 477 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: looks all glamorous, you know, and sometimes once you sell 478 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: records you can make some money. But you know, we 479 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: were doing shows, we were traveling, we were you know, 480 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: but we were still the roommates in an apartment. I 481 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: love that so um And that's crazy. You look at 482 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Wall and Out now and it has this huge budget 483 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: and it's a little different now, yeah, from when you 484 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: guys first started. Now, I remember hearing like when you 485 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: guys first when it first started, it was like in 486 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: a club and it was like, did you guys self 487 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: shoot it or we did? The first pilot was at 488 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: a club called the Comedy Union down on Off Brea 489 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: in l A. And that's the one that MTV saw 490 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: and they liked it, and then we did um, MTV 491 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: paid for us to do a yeah, and so that 492 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: was that was kind of cool. We did that at 493 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: a club. We did that at a Princess old club, 494 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I think, I think that's what we did. And then um, 495 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: a couple of months after that, MTV I wanted to 496 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: buy like six or ten episodes or something like that, 497 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: so we went to series there and you know, besides 498 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: that low that we had between two thousand and seven 499 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: and two thousand and twelve or thirteen or something like that, 500 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, the show has never been off the air, like, 501 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, besides but this recent thing. But it was 502 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: always on the air. They were always playing reruns. But yeah, 503 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never thought that I wouldn't 504 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: be able to make a living in this business. Never. Never. Wow, 505 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I think when I interview a lot of people, 506 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: especially at this table, they're all as well, celebrities, influencers, entrepreneurs, 507 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: and they all had that level of confidence, like we 508 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: knew at some point, even though we were homeless, we 509 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: were going to make it. Yeah, because you know, when 510 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: you're trash, do you think? So you have to Hopefully 511 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: you're self aware enough to just know, because I've seen 512 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of talent going American Idol, and you know, 513 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, but they probably know because 514 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: I sometimes when I sing to myself in the shower, 515 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I sound great, like move over, Mariah, and 516 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: then like if I were to record it, I play 517 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: it back, I'm like, oh, that's reality right there. You know. 518 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: I just have to ask when you look at where 519 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: you guys started UM to where you're at now, do 520 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: you ever just sit back and go like that's crazy? 521 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely do you don you and Nick ever step off 522 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: the stage and say can you believe this? Especially like yeah, 523 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: we we have UM, especially like when we're doing the 524 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: tour wild Out Tour, Like I can't remember what city 525 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: we were in, but you know it was a basketball 526 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: arena in a major city and it was sold out, 527 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, not just the floor, 528 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: but it was like probably eighteen thousand people there and 529 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: you just hear like the opening DJ playing music and stuff, 530 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: and you you walk into the backstage area and you 531 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: can see the audience and it's just thousands and thousands 532 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: and thousands of people. And I remember saying to him, 533 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: can you believe this started in the living room? You 534 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And that's when you know Nick. 535 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: You know, Nick is too cool for school sometimes and 536 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: Nick's like it's crazy, huh. And then we're just you know, 537 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: and then I go out on stage and I introduced Nick, 538 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: and then we do our show. You know him? But 539 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: does happen a couple of times you kind of have 540 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: to you have to step outside of yourself sometimes, I think, 541 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: and to appreciate what you what you've accomplished, you know 542 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, What you've been blessed to accomplish. And um, 543 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of that's smelling the roses, you know. 544 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: And then I just have one last question and then 545 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: we'll wrap. Um. And this is kind of go back 546 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: going back to when you guys, oh when the pilot, 547 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: when you're pitching MTV, where you guys cold calling or 548 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: are you calling every relationship in your roller decks saying here, 549 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: I got this great idea. Here's the tape for it 550 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: or was it all a word document in a deck? No. 551 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Nick is the one that had 552 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: all of those you know, relationships, um, and he had 553 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: all those avenues to get you know, because that wasn't 554 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Nick's first pilot. He had done probably called Loose Cannon 555 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: that we did, um, we did another show called The 556 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon Show. We did two shows called the Nick 557 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: Cannon So one didn't go who one ended up on Nickelodeon. UM. 558 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: So you know, and you know Nick at the time, 559 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: especially Nick was like Hollywood's little guy that they were 560 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, hollywood young new little guy that 561 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: they were trying to figure out, what can we do 562 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: with this guy? Because he's talented and he's got some 563 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: great ideas, and he was like clean cut. He was 564 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: like that clean he was like the new version of 565 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: the Freshman. Yeah. Yeah, I would definitely say that. Yeah. 566 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: So you know, so he was able to use that 567 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: to pitch the show, and the people wanted to be 568 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: in business with him, you know what I mean. I 569 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: mean he's a likable Yeah, he's very nice, very nice, 570 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: very likable, very hard working. Now he's got you know, 571 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: neck tattoos. It's yeah, that can be a whole another discussion. 572 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: But I'm so happy that you came out and fed 573 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: me uh some bologny fried bologny ramen. It's be flavored, 574 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: and now I officially know how to fry rom well. 575 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on another episode of 576 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: Eating While Broke Broke. Thank you for more Eating While 577 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: Broke from I Heeart Radio and The Black Effect. Visit 578 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you 579 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.