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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the AFC is looking a

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Speaker 1: whole lot like it looked twenty years ago. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, and Jordan

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Speaker 1: Rodrigue smiling. Patrick Claybond's wearing a beautiful tie.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the Patriots and I'm

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Speaker 1: here too. I'm just looking at the top and in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, and you see Indianapolis, and you see Denver,

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Speaker 1: and you see the Patriots, and you go over to

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Speaker 1: the NFC, you know as well, it's like it's dominated

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Speaker 1: by you know, the NFC West. I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: just feels a lot like twenty years ago to me

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Speaker 1: over there in the aves.

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Speaker 3: It's a tradition all over the place as the blue

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Speaker 3: bloods of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Remain at the top.

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Speaker 4: What a fun day we had in the newsroom today, guys.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was a lot of happening.

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Speaker 1: You know, teams caught up when they were behind, because

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Speaker 1: that's what happens in football games, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about all of it. I struggled picking the start

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Speaker 1: of this week's slate because there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: really interesting games I didn't know, like what was the

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Speaker 1: game of the day, and you guys convinced me that

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Speaker 1: it was Patriots. Buck, So I don't look like a

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Speaker 1: Homer by going along with what you said. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to to Tampa.

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Speaker 5: May under the center, second down M nine plus from

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Speaker 5: the thirty one high formation, toss left. Henderson has it

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Speaker 5: trading books outside the fifty to the forty, to the thirty.

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Speaker 6: To the twenty to the ten to the house.

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Speaker 1: Patriots, there's your book game.

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Speaker 7: Ain't too Benny, start to buses the Toba shortwave.

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Speaker 1: But it's a slape today we are getting it.

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Speaker 2: It's safe clover. He said this before off.

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Speaker 1: The two man No Scott Zolac making me regret my decisions.

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Speaker 1: Start with the Patriots, right the bat. Patriots go down

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Speaker 1: to Tampa and they say, stop talking about strength to

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Speaker 1: schedule Greg. The two best teams you know we faced

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Speaker 1: in the last five or six weeks. They got the

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Speaker 1: w and they got it on the road twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to twenty three. Patriots hold on in Tampa. And yes

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Speaker 1: it was Travion Henderson on a day where no Ramandre

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Speaker 1: Stevenson and Terrell Jennings. Who's getting all the carries early

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Speaker 1: in the game, gets hurt, so they just gotta go

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Speaker 1: with Travon Henderson. And you know what, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good idea. When I think about like the big picture

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Speaker 1: of this Patriots season and this win in particular, I

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Speaker 1: think what you got to like from a team building

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Speaker 1: perspective is this was a team that was old and

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Speaker 1: slow at various points, and now they're young and explosive.

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Speaker 1: You get the two huge plays from Travon Henderson, you

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Speaker 1: get the young guys on the offensive line who didn't

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Speaker 1: have a perfect day, but considering it was against Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles and everything only took one sack on the day.

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Speaker 1: You have an explosive young quarterback. Obviously Kyle Williams has

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Speaker 1: the explosive play. And then the guys you brought in

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, so many of them had crucial roles

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Speaker 1: in this win, especially Milton Williams, Kalevon Chase On and

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Speaker 1: I think it was a complete victory because it's not

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Speaker 1: all just about Drake may. This was a day Patrick

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Speaker 1: where he had some throw of the Year candidates, multiple maybe,

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Speaker 1: and he had some groaners, a killer interception that allowed

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Speaker 1: the Bucks back into this game and made some big mistakes,

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Speaker 1: but their defense picked up Drake May in the running

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Speaker 3: And something that lends to what you've talked about for

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Speaker 3: two years now, where it wasn't Drake May being the

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Speaker 3: only thing that mattered today. They needed those explosive plays

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Speaker 3: in the run game because this Bucks team, which gets

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, they got to Drake May, and

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Speaker 3: under pressure, he was four or thirteen fo one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty seven yards. He did have that one touchdown

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Speaker 3: to Kyle Williams, who made a great adjustment on the

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Speaker 3: wound up finishing that play and getting it into the paint.

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Speaker 3: But we saw this be a complete Patriots team, have

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Speaker 3: buy on the road, and yeah, it's all the college

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Speaker 3: football weird criticism of like strength.

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Speaker 2: The schedule, like like.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's on me.

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Speaker 2: We don't need a committee at this point.

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Speaker 1: No, I get it, but I do think schedule explains

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Speaker 1: a lot in the NFL, and they have like three

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Speaker 1: more cupcakes after this too, But they have been consistent,

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Speaker 1: weirdly in how they win these games. You look at

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Speaker 1: explosive plays matter more. Travion ends up with one hundred

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Speaker 1: how they've played all year, is just hitting a handful

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and important that a couple of those came in

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Speaker 4: the run game, specifically against one of the better run

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Speaker 4: such a cool game for Drake May if you are

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Speaker 4: Drake May, because yes, to your point. While I would

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Speaker 4: say the majority of this game looked really sharp, really crisp.

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Speaker 4: He looked like the same quarterback we've been seeing who's

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Speaker 4: among the highest in the league in completion percentage right

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Speaker 4: now and making tight window throws and pushing the ball

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Speaker 4: down the field. There were a couple plays that he

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Speaker 4: wants back, but in those moments, the rest of the

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Speaker 4: what the stinkers some of these rosters have been in

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Speaker 4: stepped up and complimented around him, and you really see that.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned the passing game, Greg, I think their

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Speaker 4: passing game, specifically the layers that Josh McDaniel's and the

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Speaker 4: rest of that offensive staff have built into the passing game,

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Speaker 4: there is an over for every under, there is an

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Speaker 4: and everybody's running really crisply. Even the big older tight

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Speaker 4: And you've got to feel really good about this if

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Speaker 1: So let's throw it to that throw the year candidate

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Speaker 1: that I brought up earlier, the fifty four yarder to maccollins.

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Speaker 1: Third down fourteen gets a breath.

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Speaker 5: A different car May is flanked by Henry White Henderson left,

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Speaker 1: Poor man rush Drake is back. He launches along about

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Speaker 9: Bull in silent head, a perfect crow by trick.

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Speaker 6: May after the red gloves of mac Collins first in

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Speaker 10: Age and he gets croached, absolutely croped to.

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Speaker 11: Get on the release dismay, but he hangs in there

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Speaker 1: Looked about Collins on the co roped down the right

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Speaker 1: a good game. Gives up only three catches to a

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Speaker 1: thought Baker like he played pretty well in this game.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Bucks fan, you get Luke geticky back.

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Speaker 1: I think It's a very frustrating loss for them because

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Speaker 1: their pass rush was better. Their run game, even though

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Speaker 1: they miss Bucky Irving, like Sean Tucker, was really good

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Speaker 1: in short yarded situations. They had a much higher success rate.

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Speaker 1: I thought they like protected Baker better, but they lost

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Speaker 1: around the margins in general. I want to get your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: guys on the Mike Rabel decision late in the first half.

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of was the key to the

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Speaker 1: after the Bucks use all their timeouts to basically burn

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Speaker 1: when they're basically on the goal line, like extremely interesting

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Speaker 1: strategy I have never seen before. And then the Patriots

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Speaker 1: can't score on the next two plays and it's typical

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Speaker 1: They just bail out their coaches. Because Drake May and

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs had an incredible fourth down touchdown, they get

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Speaker 1: BELICHICKI and Sandwich, what do you think about this strategy? Patchrick, Oh, Greg.

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Speaker 3: It could be process oriented and criticized the decision to

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Speaker 3: Winfield Junior on the back shoulder with Stefan Diggs where

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Speaker 3: he's having to find the ball off and make get

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Speaker 3: two feet down. Or you could be results oriented and

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Speaker 3: say six it's New England. Clearly it was the right decision.

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Speaker 3: I lean towards process.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but most coaches in this league are results are oriented,

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Speaker 4: so you're probably gonna have a recency bias on that one,

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a confirmation bias.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if many coaches have the stones to

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Speaker 4: I don't mind trying to manipulate the clock. I do

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Speaker 4: think that trying to run the ball in short yardage

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Speaker 4: the NFL is probably where things start to go a

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Speaker 4: little bit sideways. And you could tell how much situational

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Speaker 4: coaching that this group is getting week over week. With

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Speaker 4: And he's got John Striker on that staff as well,

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Speaker 4: and so obviously they're gonna hammer this every single week

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Speaker 4: to the point where maybe some people are overthinking things,

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Speaker 4: the meetings, and then looking over to the sideline like

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Speaker 4: that's how you can tell they're thinking a lot about

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Speaker 4: these types of things. So I just I'm tickled by

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Speaker 4: all of it. It worked out for and probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that steff On Dig's catch was awesome and he

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Speaker 1: goes five for forty six. He has been so valuable

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Speaker 1: for this team, even beyond the statistics, it is really outrageous.

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Speaker 1: My thing on that play was I wouldn't do it,

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Speaker 1: but if you had just run, just run the ball,

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Speaker 1: it would have happened naturally. Anyways, they tried about ten

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Speaker 1: Would have been talking about this game back and forth

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Tons, I don't think you ever. He

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Speaker 2: No, they have to deal with covering them instead.

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Speaker 3: While Josh Allen has the longest time to throw in

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Speaker 3: they did not get the game they needed from their receivers.

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Speaker 1: Was too little tailent. Tom Pallisero of NFL Media reported

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Speaker 4: I harken back to the summer and the early fall

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Speaker 1: Let's give some important context in terms of the Bill's injuries.

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Speaker 2: But he has the ball getting knocked out.

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Speaker 1: the Bills get their third win of the season. All right,

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Speaker 14: Sure, Matthews understander performed a single back. Davis Allen motions

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Speaker 1: It is play action Stafford ready to deal.

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Speaker 15: He throws no look less side along Parkinson. He can

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Speaker 1: Oh like Jordan Rodrigu to Brandon Bean a great call

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Speaker 1: forty two to twenty six the Rams win, And how

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Speaker 4: I know, aren't you sick of me?

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Speaker 16: By now?

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Speaker 4: Greg sitting next to you and that just freaking out

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Speaker 1: Like right now, I don't need to hear about the

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Speaker 4: My game's was great. Okay, the caveat here and yes,

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Speaker 4: of that, is how much deeper there's chematic options can go.

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Speaker 4: This is no longer an eleven personnel all the time dominant.

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Speaker 4: We do not DEVI eight team. This isn't even a

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Speaker 4: twelve personnel team. So two receivers, two tight ends offense.

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Speaker 4: This is actually it's skipped right past and Sean mcfaz

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Speaker 4: taped his foot around the gas pedal, and it is

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Speaker 4: a thirteen personnel, three tight ends on the field, one

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Speaker 4: receiver team. And you saw this today at a forty

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Speaker 4: four percent rate, forty four point eight percent of that

447
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Speaker 4: there plays thirteen personnel for six point seven three yards

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Speaker 4: per play and a sixty three percent success rate. Plus

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Speaker 4: four of the six total touchdowns that they put up

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Speaker 4: on the forty nine ers today, this was their most

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Speaker 4: productive personnel grouping of the game, beyond eleven personnel, beyond

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Speaker 4: twelve personnel. And yes, again it came against a really

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Speaker 4: really banged up forty nine ers team, but this is

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Speaker 4: a schematically diverse and multiple Rams offense that is really

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Speaker 4: hard to defend because they can hit you with probably

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Speaker 4: the deepest tight ends roster in the league.

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Speaker 1: And obviously that's hoping, that's hoping helping to open up

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Speaker 1: the pass game, and all three tight ends too were active.

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Speaker 1: Ferguson has a thirty two yard catch in Higbee and

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Speaker 1: parkin center both active with three or four catches over

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Speaker 1: thirty yards each. But it's also helping the running game.

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Speaker 1: Where to me, just when I saw this game, and

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Speaker 1: then you look at the success rates comparing the two teams,

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Speaker 1: and you look at Christian McCaffrey getting stuffed for thirty

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Speaker 1: yards on twelve carries, like the Rams are the much

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Speaker 1: better running team, and you know that that has to

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Speaker 1: kill Kyle Shanahan deep inside that the Rams are like

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Speaker 1: the running team between these two.

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Speaker 3: And We've got to a point where I was seeing

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Speaker 3: Brian Robinson Junior with early carries. It's twenty one to nothing,

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, oh, this is a white flag from

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Speaker 3: Kyle Broan. Robinson Junior averaged twice as many yards per

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Speaker 3: carry as Christian McCaffrey, and you kind of start to

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Speaker 3: wonder if they're going to deploy their backs differently as

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Speaker 3: the season came on, where CMC is clearly like far

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Speaker 3: and away one of the better players in terms of

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Speaker 3: being involved in the past game, not having success on

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Speaker 3: the ground.

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Speaker 2: And hasn't been for a while.

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Speaker 4: You pointed out something important, greg about their usage of

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Speaker 4: these heavier personnels that I think makes it really tough

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Speaker 4: for teams more so than even having to figure out

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Speaker 4: how this comes out to defend against the passing attack.

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Speaker 4: Kien Williams had almost sixty percent of his carries today

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Speaker 4: out of thirteen personnel, fifty percent success rate, five point

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Speaker 4: one yards per carry to both touchdowns that he scored.

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Speaker 4: When you're looking at the modern version of some of

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Speaker 4: these heavy personnel teams, including even the Pittsburgh Steelers and

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Speaker 4: certainly the Seahawks, what they do at a twelve personnel

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Speaker 4: they're building their that heavier personnel specifically with the idea

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Speaker 4: of passing the ball. The Rams started that way as well.

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Speaker 4: You look at how some of the stats have shifted

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Speaker 4: and some of the carry share has shifted into heavier personnel,

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Speaker 4: and then the heaviest of personnel, right, and you're looking

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Speaker 4: at them building their run game around this as well,

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Speaker 4: including having it be such a force and a factor

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Speaker 4: in the pass game to the point where you know,

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Speaker 4: Davante Adams leaves the game with a back injury after scoring,

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Speaker 4: you know, his eighth touchdown and eight red zone catches,

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Speaker 4: and they just shift immediately over to thirteen and it's

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Speaker 4: like they don't even lose a step, and it sort

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Speaker 4: of like makes you remember, oh, yeah, DeVante Adams and

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Speaker 4: Matthew staff Stafford are having an incredible season. So if

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Speaker 4: Puku Nakua is down, Davante Adams is up. And I

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Speaker 4: want to take a look at that touchdown and listen

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Speaker 4: to it, because it was just what's becoming a vintage

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Speaker 4: moment between the two.

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Speaker 17: Second down and go from the two, Helmut high snap

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Speaker 17: looking left, throws that way, it's caught for a touchdown.

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Speaker 14: Hey Adams, touchdown, la knocks.

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Speaker 17: Over a videographer with a twenty seven to fourteen lead.

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Speaker 17: Shaken up, but good to go. Devonte Adams continues his streak.

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Speaker 17: He leads the NFL with nine receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: Now that I'm looking at that, I'm wondering if that's

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Speaker 4: where his back injury happened, because he hit that camera

516
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Speaker 4: pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: So they updated after the game that they're calling it

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Speaker 1: an oblique now and they said they thought he could

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Speaker 1: have possibly returned to the game. So we'll see about

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Speaker 1: his status for next week. But very typical Rams to

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Speaker 1: change the injury after the game. But great, great release.

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Speaker 1: You have him lined up on Malik Mustafa and it

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Speaker 1: was just a vintage Adam's release off the line of

524
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Speaker 1: scrimmage and he just wins quickly. And yeah, a storyline

525
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Speaker 1: early in the season was how they couldn't get it

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Speaker 1: going in the red zone. Really to Devanta, they were

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Speaker 1: forcing it and now he is absolutely dominating. Before we

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Speaker 1: leave this game, I do want to just introduce the

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Speaker 1: idea publicly of the map Jones, Brock, Purty Scale and

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Speaker 1: me because Man Mac Jones only had six and completions

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Speaker 1: in this game. He goes over three hundred yard, he

532
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Speaker 1: throws three touchdowns like he did his work. And the

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Speaker 1: more I watch Man Jones, the more I watch him

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Speaker 1: in this offense, he's really adding something to the table.

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Speaker 1: And I and I said to you Patrick, and you

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Speaker 1: thought it was obvious. So if it felt good about it.

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Speaker 1: That No, no, that Greg miscoding past. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not miscoding. I said the average Mac Jones game

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Speaker 1: at this point at a higher level than the average

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo game for the forty nine ers. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And so Mac Jones, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know that game when you're when you're at like the

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Speaker 1: carnival of you're hitting you know, you're trying to hit it,

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Speaker 1: and the guy's like climbing up the hill a little

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Speaker 1: bit like if you're on the scale of like an

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Speaker 1: average quarterback in a Kyle Shannan system, maybe like replacement level,

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Speaker 1: it's Nick Mullins. And then you're going up the level

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Speaker 1: and there's Jimmy Garoppolo. Mac Jones has now passed Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: and he's getting reasonably close to block Brock Purty like

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Speaker 1: he's behind him, but you know he's he's getting closer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My only issue with the with that part is it

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Speaker 3: starts by invoking Brock party, and we don't need Brock

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Speaker 3: to say that, you know, Mac has surpassed Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 3: on the on the Kyle Shanahan quarterback scale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fine discussion. I just think we don't

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Speaker 2: need to invoke rock.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying it's getting closer, that's all. Reportedly

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Speaker 1: he could be back next week, and Kyle Shannon even

560
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Speaker 1: said after the game that he thinks brock Purty could

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Speaker 1: have been the backup today and was very close to

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Speaker 1: being ready to go, and they wanted him one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent until he before he returns in I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling now six and four that will be next week

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Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. All right, let's move on

566
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Speaker 1: to Berlin where we were hoping for a good one

567
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Speaker 1: and we got one. We sent the international fans home happy.

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Speaker 1: We also got to hear a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: Will Gavin this season.

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Speaker 7: Cool goes to Tayler bounce the outside down to the

571
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Speaker 7: tall touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor his third of the day as

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Speaker 7: he goes two up to two hundred and thirty yards,

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Speaker 7: three touchdowns and a walk off for the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 7: in Berlin, who moved to eight and two on the

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Speaker 7: season after his sensational day.

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Speaker 12: The entire fifty three, every coach, everybody on the field.

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Speaker 7: Is gathered around Jonathan Taylor, who.

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Speaker 1: Has carried this team to victory on German soil.

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Speaker 18: What a day.

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Speaker 1: One a day for Jonathan Taylor, wanted day for Berlin

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Speaker 1: and what a resolve for the Colts. Oh that's Ali

582
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Speaker 1: Connelly helping out Will Gavin on talkSPORT. I was driving

583
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Speaker 1: in to work when I heard that call, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hear that call again later today. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one to twenty five. Yes, Jonathan Taylor carried the

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Speaker 1: ball thirty two times today for two hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: four yards. If you had told me that his eighty

588
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Speaker 1: three yard run in the fourth quarter to take the

589
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Speaker 1: lead was not going to be like the call of

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Speaker 1: the game and we will hear it, I just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have believed it. This was a performance, I think, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: that could send shockwaves into the MVP conversation formula that

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Speaker 1: you've been working on.

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00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: It already has okay, it already has to give a preview,

595
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Speaker 3: and you know Greg's asking for it. Greg is a

596
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Speaker 3: part of the scoring, and in part we have access

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Speaker 3: to the mind of a Greg Rosenthal. Jonathan Taylor, despite

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Speaker 3: having negative points to start to come into Week ten

599
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Speaker 3: because he doesn't play quarterback, has now surpassed his own

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Speaker 3: quarterback in senior dimes in the conversation because Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: despite getting five points for leading the league and passing

602
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Speaker 3: yardage coming into the week, does not get the points

603
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Speaker 3: for a quality primetime performance. Greg scoring the negative dimes

604
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Speaker 3: game with the turnover, that's tough, and.

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Speaker 2: So Jonathan Taylor supersedes his quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And I think we have a precedence set here where

607
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Speaker 3: if you're going to score in the conversation against your teammate,

608
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Speaker 3: one guy has to have a clearly better game than

609
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Speaker 3: the other. Yeah, and that's clearly Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: So no points for well, I think the fact that

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Speaker 1: it happened in an Island game and everyone could see that, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is important and made plays. That's why I

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Speaker 1: feel bad about saying negative because you know, he had

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Speaker 1: that third and fourteen to set up the game tying

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Speaker 1: field goal right before the end of regulation, the run

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Speaker 1: that was important, a number of scrambles to get to

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Speaker 1: fifty three yards on the ground. They did fall behind

618
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Speaker 1: in this game. But you also can't ignore the sequence

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Speaker 1: where he had an interception and three fumbles in about

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Speaker 1: a five you know, possession sequence that's not ideal.

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Speaker 4: Starting to worry about the fumbling a little bit, just

622
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Speaker 4: saying we know this has been a problem before. I

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Speaker 4: have no doubt that with this group around him of

624
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Speaker 4: really talented people and coaches like that, can get cleaned up.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm noticing, not judging yet, I am noticing.

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Speaker 1: And there were a ton of free rushers on him.

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Speaker 1: He only lost one of those fumbles. But to me,

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Speaker 1: if you fumble it, that's just as bad. It's it's

629
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Speaker 1: luck whether you get it back or not. Their offensive

630
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: line really struggled to identify rushers for the second straight week,

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Speaker 1: so that's something for their team to clean up during

632
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Speaker 1: the bye. That's not necessarily on Daniel Jones, because Manny

633
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Speaker 1: was under pressure quickly a lot of plays, and.

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Speaker 3: That's why perhaps the biggest gift of this week of

635
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Speaker 3: NFL football was on the final drive in regulation for

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Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts, jeff Olbrooksons blitzes on first and second

637
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Speaker 3: down to force the third and twenty one, and then

638
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: they have a four man rush where Daniel Jones is

639
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Speaker 3: able to run and pick up a nineteen of those yards,

640
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Speaker 3: and then on fourth down they bring back the blitz

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00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: Jones has MPJ on the hot read wide open to

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Speaker 3: the top of the screen. Instead, he decides to use

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Speaker 3: the force to Tyler Warren, who has a defender all

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Speaker 3: over him, but somehow gets fits the ball in there

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Speaker 3: for the first down, which hey, where results oriented great decision?

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you, but Tyler Warren is such

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Speaker 1: a beast, and I believe it was Jesse beats there

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Speaker 1: in covered and he just at at this point trusting

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren to moss anyone on the biggest play of

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Speaker 1: their season, because if you don't complete that, the game's over.

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Speaker 1: Falcons win. It's not a bad decision. Tyler Waron makes

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Speaker 1: the catch and you know, and he also turns an

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Speaker 1: upfield and makes the play. Mandy has a good feel

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Speaker 1: of like where the defenders are gonna be after he

655
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: makes these catches.

656
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: There was a quiet battle going on between Daniel Jones

657
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: and Jesse Bates for the entire game. Obviously, Jesse Bates

658
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: was super aggressive on the ball whenning coverage, but also

659
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: they were sending him in some of these creepers, so

660
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: looking like you're gonna blitz but then not actually blitzing,

661
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: And they were sending him on some of these pressure

662
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: looks where on one of the turnovers that Jalen Walker

663
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: forced a fumble. Excuse me, James Pierce Junior forced the

664
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: fumble this week. It was the reverse last week and

665
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Walker scooped it up. Jesse Bates was Daniel Jones

666
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: was looking at Jesse Bates coming off his hit to

667
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: his right the entire time. He wasn't even clocking what

668
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: was going on to his left and it was basically

669
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: a free rush right at him ended up being a turnover.

670
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: They were going back and forth all game. I thought

671
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: it was really really cool to watch. The score to

672
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: me on the Colts side does not necessarily show how

673
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: much fun this Atlanta Falcons defense is sometimes to watch,

674
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: and yes, some of the calls when they'll they'll make

675
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: the right call for two of the downs and then

676
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: be like, ah, where'd it go on the third down?

677
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: But this defense has come so much further than I

678
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: expected them to in one year under jeff Ford Bridge.

679
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: I think this game was and they're playing one of

680
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league is kind of typical

681
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: of what this Falcons defense is, which is they're a

682
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: big play defense, kind of going a big playoffense, but

683
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: they give up a lot of big plays. They don't

684
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: have enough of a consistent pass rush, but the secondary's

685
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: good and they lose Alford Robert Alford early in this game.

686
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: D Alford, I'm losing. I'm confusing my Alfred's that I've

687
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: played for the Falcons. Five hundred yards for the Colts

688
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: in this game, and yet I blame this game on

689
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the Falcons offense. Really, the defense has more than done

690
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: its job all season long. But in a game where

691
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts pick up a new kicker, they miss,

692
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: they miss a kick short, and miss an extra point early.

693
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: They have zero third down conversions through the first three

694
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: quarters of this game. Like I mentioned, they had the

695
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: four fumbles, they had two failed fourth down potential conversions

696
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: deep into Falcons territory where I think they were almost

697
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: afraid to let the kicker kick. And they also made

698
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: sense at the time they had the intercept. All of

699
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: that happened on the other side of the ball, and

700
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: yet the Colts kept having the ball down four points

701
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: with the chance to win the game. This Falcons offense

702
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: should have put this game away earlier, and they were

703
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: just horrific on third downs on dropbacks on third downs,

704
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix completed one of five passes for four yards.

705
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: He took three sacks and fumbled the ball away. They

706
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: had negative thirty one yards on those eight dropbacks. And

707
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: in a game where like there's no DeForest Buckner. It's

708
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: not like the Colts had a great pass rush in

709
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: this game. They're just their passing game I think is

710
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: killing them.

711
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the offense is driving me nuts. Don't think I

712
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: did not notice Mike McDaniel running h Chan out of

713
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: the pistol for huge production today. By the way, just

714
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: in case, backup plan, you know, backup plan in case

715
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: some shuffling happens.

716
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Speaker 1: There was a weird under center play by Michael Pennox

717
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: in this game, and I was.

718
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Like ooh, and then it was like the only one

719
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: just in case Atlanta's in the market, you know, this offseason,

720
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: you know, just in case some things move around. But yeah,

721
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: I remain absolutely infuriated at times by this offense, and

722
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: a lot of the passing game is just predicated on

723
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: what can Drake London.

724
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: Do six for one four and a touchdown six for

725
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: one four in a touchdown.

726
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: He had a hat trick last week, but they lack

727
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 4: so much dimension in other areas of their past game.

728
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: And yes, Bijeon went for eighty four yards on seventeen

729
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: attempts to four point nine per attempt, but it was

730
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: so start stop, start stop, and then he's completely a

731
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 4: non factor in the game within the red zone.

732
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Well, in overtime, I do think play, you know, players,

733
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: not plays, and it's one drive in overtime, and it's

734
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: a very short drive. It ends up being five plays.

735
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: And you know it's Darnell Mooney who had a killer

736
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: drop in regulation. Eight targets to Mooney for one catch,

737
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: and it's Algier a lot at the end of this game,

738
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: and they didn't get Drake Lindon a target like at

739
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Where in overtime, who did

740
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: Dania Jones throw to Tyler Warren? Like it was all

741
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren? And you trust your best players.

742
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there are so many situations where you look back.

743
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: We've talked about the falcons inability to use the middle

744
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: of the field in the passing game, and then they

745
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: had a great opportunity. David Sills got one target today

746
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: and it was a nasty miss by Pinnix where you

747
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, at this point in the season.

748
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: It can't just be Zach Robinson's. It takes a.

749
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: Village, yea to have a passing game an offense.

750
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: And you got to put the blame on nine on

751
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: some of these. I understand they don't use the middle

752
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: field a lot. David Sills and his connection maybe be

753
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: non existent, but you could.

754
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: You can meet strangers, not not nine that suits up

755
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, the alter ego. This is Michael actual

756
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who plays for the Atlanta Falcons.

757
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: Where's number nine? Two to my knowledge only is one person.

758
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right. He was inaccurate for a lot

759
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: of the day. He finishes twelve for twenty eight, and

760
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: he was getting a lot of negative texts from Nick

761
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: Westling to me, just like I've never thought Michael Pennix

762
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: had it. He doesn't have it. There's not enough, you know, oomph,

763
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: And I'm you know.

764
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: But that's the thing he does.

765
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: Like the things that Michael Pennock junior and out are

766
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: very difficult to do, Like it's difficult.

767
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: Not seeing it as enough develop buttons.

768
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if he if they can action passing to

769
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: the middle of the field, run dagger for Christ's sake.

770
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: And some of it's on the coaches too, because his

771
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: team can they cannot get plays off in time, like

772
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: how many plays There were literally two drives that were

773
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: ended because Michael Pennix was not ready for the snap

774
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: because they had to snap it too quick and he's

775
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: like walking up and they're running out of time. And

776
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: so I don't know if the plays call is getting

777
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: in late, but just the operation is is just rough.

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: They're three and six, A lot of questions for the

779
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Falcons going into thereby the Colts are at eight and two.

780
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: Who man, they are feeling better going into their bye.

781
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: And before we say goodbye to this game, let's actually

782
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: go to break by listening to Will Gavin again because yeah,

783
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: we got to hear that touchdown call. Remember the fout.

784
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: The Falcons were winning this game in the fourth quarter,

785
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. They give up a field goal drive,

786
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: then they get stopped for a three and hour, and

787
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: then Jonathan Taylor takes over under center.

788
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 6: Now Daniel Jones has Pittman going in motion, has Jonathan

789
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 6: Taylor in the backfield, gives it to Taylor up the middle,

790
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 6: gets the ardish needed for the first down, maybe a yard.

791
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: More that's the outside. Is that brought down?

792
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 9: How's the time?

793
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Twenty four to forty, twenty five to fifty. Taylor can

794
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: go all the way here, He's the two druckers. He's

795
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: gonna all the way. Ten tied touch down counts.

796
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor unbelievable.

797
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 10: I'm with that.

798
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 6: He breaks Hendering James, Indianapolis coach rushing touchdown record. This

799
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 6: man is special, indeed, and he's carrying this team to

800
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: open out be a nice in two records.

801
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: Ravens of the line first in goal at the two.

802
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 19: Lamar steps back into the shotgun, spreads three receivers to

803
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 19: the right.

804
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Lamar takes a snap roll to.

805
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 15: The right, grows from the back of the end zone,

806
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 15: touchdown Mark Andrews.

807
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 20: And the Ravens extend their lead with ten forty.

808
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Left up play in Minnesota. They extended, they did, and

809
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: they hold on twenty seven to nineteen. The Ravens win

810
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: their third straight game to get to four and five,

811
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: same record that the Vikings have. In the loss Patrick,

812
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: they were just knocking on the door all day, settle

813
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: in for field goals all day. The Ravens finally break

814
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: through get a touchdown early in the third quarter from

815
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: Justice Hill, and I gotta say, you know from the outside,

816
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: and you can tell me as the one who wore

817
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: some purple today it felt like the Ravens defense is

818
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: keeping them in this game and waiting for the offense

819
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: to hold up.

820
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: Shout out to Vanessa and Wardrobe picking this outfit for me.

821
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: I had no say or other. She literally had to

822
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: help me button the collar because I didn't know that

823
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: it actually.

824
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: But you know what's sad is I have no idea

825
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: for oh yeah, yeah, that's cool. It's sad. I would

826
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: have no idea that it's purple. But I know it

827
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: because Jordan said it earlier, so I'm just copying.

828
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: I still this is in the range of the spectrum

829
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: where I just whatever somebody says it is same. It's

830
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: dangerous because my life will be like that's my gunda

831
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I'm out.

832
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: You feel the pain of the color blind community.

833
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: I appreciate, yeah, stand in solidarity, but generally been feeling

834
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: pain regarding this Baltimore Ravens defense where they've gotten seven

835
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: turnovers in the last three games. They get enough from

836
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: Tyler Loop. I know there are those who may be

837
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: seated at this table with me who were oppositional to

838
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: kicking field goal, but they give you three points and

839
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: you are allowed, based on the rules, to keep these

840
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: three points for the duration of the game. And yeah,

841
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 3: it's a back and forth game toward.

842
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're like way ahead, though, the other team

843
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: can come back and that's how they can go.

844
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: They can but when you get you know, Marlon Humphrey

845
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: picking off JJ McCarthy as he did on what was

846
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: essentially a punt where Justin Jefferson fell down. Justin Jefferson,

847
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: I believe, finished with thirteen targets and four catches in

848
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: this game where Zach Orr executed the plan pretty much

849
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: almost a perfection, where there was an opportunity for a

850
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: two point conversion after a late touchdown from Jalen Naylor,

851
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: where you know, Nate Wiggins was arguing for a pass

852
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: interference call which is okay not to do during the

853
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: play though, which allowed Jalen Naylor with a late touchdown

854
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: that gave the Vikings a little bit of hope.

855
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: They went for two.

856
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: But you just saw the way that the bracket coverage

857
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: was designed on Justin Jefferson to limit him. In je

858
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: Adobe Huzie had a break up there, but you know,

859
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: the Ravens continue to ex on play action that touchdown

860
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: pass to Mark Andrews. I will fight those at NGS

861
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: who say that that is not a play action play

862
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 3: despite having Lamar spread out to the right and where

863
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: the entire Vikings defense is looking at him and not

864
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews on the back line. But a solid performance

865
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: where yeah, they could have been successful in the red

866
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: zone a little bit more, but all you need to

867
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: do is good enough to win. I guess a solid

868
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: team on the road is a team that's playing a

869
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: lot better than they were a few weeks.

870
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: They're stacking different types of performances. The offense hasn't been

871
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: like as consistent as explosive as maybe you would expect,

872
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: but this is a very difficult matchup and eventually they

873
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: broke through. Let's actually listen to that McCarthy interception that

874
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: you referred to. He had a couple of them today.

875
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 14: Vikings three of seven on third down. This is third

876
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 14: and short, two tight ends. They're balanced off, said I right,

877
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 14: McCarthy on third and one is going to pass from

878
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 14: under center. He's going to go deep Jennifer soon now

879
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 14: Ti Marlin Humphrey picked it up, picked it off, but

880
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 14: the five yard line. The veteran Marlin Humphrey heads up

881
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 14: the field lazily to the fifteen. Now he sprints twenty

882
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 14: twenty five and JJ McCarthy has thrown two interceptions.

883
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Paul, both interceptions when targeting Justin Jefferson.

884
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: Also Pete Bursich on the call there along with Paul

885
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: Allen on kfan going what are you doing?

886
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: In the middle of that call, I mean, right out

887
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: of his hands, Pete was asking what are we doing?

888
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: And that's why I know Jefferson felt and I saw

889
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: some critical tweets in Vikings Blue Sky about Jefferson today

890
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: that you know, he had a couple of plays that

891
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: he normally would have made. You don't normally hear that,

892
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: but an up and down game from JJ McCarthy where

893
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: great first drive again in a couple really good throws,

894
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: but also some plays where he looked very young, including

895
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: the end of game situation they had the ball back

896
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: down eight with a chance to go, you know, possibly

897
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: try to tie and win the game, and that two

898
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: minute situation seemed to overwhelm McCarthy.

899
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 4: Well, it seemed to overwhelm you too, Greg.

900
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: It was a tough one to watch if you just

901
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: like good ball. I mean, he's just he's just like

902
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: throwing the ball in the middle of the field and sliding.

903
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: Down thinking forever to make decisions too.

904
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: He just wasn't ready for that moment.

905
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: And it also gives credence to the defenders of the

906
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: three man rush where on the fourth down, the Ravens

907
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: decide to rush three, much to mushagrin as I'm on

908
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: TV watching this take place, but they come through and

909
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 3: JJ throws to Aaron Jones late, where Jones is having

910
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: to try to make a diving grab and it was

911
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: too little, too late.

912
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing that bothers you about that

913
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: clip is that's a play where JJ McCarthy has absolutely

914
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: perfect protection. So it's more the decision that feels like

915
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: it was made before the play instead of basing on

916
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in terms of coverage down the field

917
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: and there was no need to rush that throw.

918
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: But also, as a play caller, right as much as

919
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: I love Kevin O'Connell, you have a third and one

920
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: in that situation, and you have Justin Jefferson and running

921
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: that route.

922
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he's kind of what you want, just jad

923
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: to look for. Yeah, he took it. He talked about

924
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: a postgame where they were showing a zero look, so

925
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: he knew that Justin Jefferson was automatically going to have

926
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: distance against the defender. So I think all of this

927
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: can be true at once. If you are on a

928
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: third and one with a quarterback who's kind of been

929
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: up and down a little bit to that point in

930
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: the game, who was spiraling a little bit after the

931
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: after the first interception, yeah, you definitely are going to

932
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: maybe like run the ball. But if you're facing all

933
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: of that down low into the box, and if you're

934
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: facing a zero like look like that like Kevin O'Connell

935
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: was talking about, and you know, the best, one of

936
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: the best receivers on the planet is going to have

937
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: a step. You just really need to make the throw.

938
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: You have to execute the throw, no matter what the

939
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: call is. On the converse, a lot of talk going

940
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: into this game about Lamar Jackson versus the Blitz, highest

941
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: passer rating in the NFL against the Blitz still was

942
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: blitzed on sixty percent of his dropbacks for a for

943
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 4: a touchdown and was eight for eighteen, so little hit

944
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: or miss. Nine pressures hitter miss doesn't say, I don't

945
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: think it means anything here or there, because they send

946
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 4: blitzeres in different ways. But still that that high amount.

947
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: That was Brian Flores committing to a game, and you.

948
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: Could see Monkin trying to get the ball hard up

949
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: like they were throwing a lot of horizontal passes, one

950
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: of which Jonathan Gernard seemingly went directly through both of

951
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: his elbows on a pass to say Flowers that they

952
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: were trying to mitigate that pressure from from the Vikings

953
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: pass rush a little bit, and we saw that and

954
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: kind of play out. Yeah, it's stats that you mentioned,

955
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 3: but you know, in the difference in the quarterbacking when

956
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: you didn't get the pressure, eight made the plays and.

957
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: Nine, which nine, There are a lot of nice that's.

958
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: An interesting question. So was that actually nine playing today

959
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: or was that JJ McCarthy.

960
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: Okay, So for a little bit of context, JJ McCarthy says,

961
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: his alter ego is nine. That's the core back who

962
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: has taken all the anger from missing his rookie year

963
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: and then missing a lot of time this year and

964
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: bottled it up and used it for good supposedly. But

965
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: if nine was out there today, that didn't seem like

966
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: a good nine. And there are a lot of other nines,

967
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: so that's confusing too.

968
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of JJ McCarthy's nine performance today, maybe

969
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: that's the Nine's the devil on the shoulder, that's like, throw.

970
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: It deep to JJ here, Well, here are the other nines. Okay,

971
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: So Pennix struggle, Yeah, Stafford, maybe the MVP right now

972
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: had a good day for your candidacy, Jordan, Bryce Young

973
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of a struggle right now in Burrow.

974
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Not healthy. So the nines they're not nine.

975
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 2: In Yeah, and we played in Berlin today nine.

976
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: I really am so happy by the way that we

977
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: gave Berlin like a banger that that was a fun game.

978
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I know we're so far off topic right now. Shout

979
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: out to Patrick Ricard. By the way, while all these

980
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: teams are heavy, we got the old school Patrick grekhard

981
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: on the field making a big difference for the Baltimore Ravens.

982
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: All four and five records, by the way, are not

983
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: created equal. The Ravens four and five they feel like

984
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: they got a chance here in this AFC North. The Vikings,

985
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: on the other hand, with a very difficult schedule ahead,

986
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: are two losses back of the seventh seed in the NFC,

987
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: in the back of a few very good teams in

988
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: the division, including the Detroit Lions. Making some news on Sunday.

989
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: I formation behind Jered, he turns handed to Gibbs, running right,

990
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: runs through a tackle, gets down of the.

991
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 9: Ten, gets to five, still fighting down two down of

992
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 9: the one to the end zone, touchdown Detroit Lions.

993
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: He did not quit, had a couple of.

994
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 9: His buddies in there pushing as well, and they pushed

995
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 9: him right into the end zone for another score.

996
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: That was an incredible run by Jamir Gibbon. I know

997
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: it's not like as long as like these Travon Henry

998
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: once or as long as the Jamir Gibbs one. We'll

999
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: hear in a second, but that's like one of the

1000
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: runs of the year. I'm giving a next Greg stats

1001
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh here that ngs for when he had from where

1002
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: he got the ball and where the defenders were, he

1003
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: had a point six percent, you know, point six percent

1004
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: chance to get a touchdown. Actually, no one in the

1005
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: NFL other than Jamir Gibbs is scoring that touchdown. It's impossible.

1006
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: And I submit as great as Bajon Robinson is the

1007
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: more I watch Jamir Gibbs. I just think he is

1008
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: the best pure runner of the football, at least to

1009
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: my taste, in the NFL right now. Man, it's tough.

1010
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying complete player at this that, but just

1011
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: as a runner, this guy is freaking ridiculous. One of

1012
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: the best pure runners I've ever seen.

1013
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: Yes, and we could celebrate him without immigrating.

1014
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: No, we have to compare and then rank.

1015
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: Oh we don't.

1016
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: We have to pick one. No, we don't. I just did.

1017
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: No, we refuse, Jordan, I refused to engage Jamiir Gibbs.

1018
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: Special football player on a good team with a with

1019
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: a good play caller.

1020
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's talk about what the big story coming

1021
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: out of the game was, which was, Yeah, Dan Campbell

1022
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: decided to take over play calling. Let's hear from Dan.

1023
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 21: This is all encompassing. You know, man, we all worked together,

1024
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 21: coaches did a hell of a job. But I just

1025
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 21: wanted to change it up a little bit. You know,

1026
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 21: Let's just see if, if you know, maybe a different

1027
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 21: play caller can can you know, maybe get a little rhythm.

1028
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 21: That's all.

1029
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: And it honestly is.

1030
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 21: Nothing more than that. You know, I know you're probably

1031
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 21: gonna want to ask questions about well, what about this

1032
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 21: or I heard this, It's not that, it's this is

1033
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 21: this was a change with many change.

1034
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: It was good for today.

1035
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: It was great forty four to twenty two. They scored

1036
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: every single possession until they finished out the game kneeling.

1037
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy.

1038
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 4: I just loved how that the pitches of his voice

1039
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: change where he's like, no, no, nothing is wrong. Don't

1040
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: you dare put on the internet that something is wrong.

1041
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: We just made a little change, which is what a

1042
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: thousand people said in July fourteenth, seventeen eighty nine, formed

1043
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: the best deal.

1044
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Just made a little change. We just wanted to say

1045
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: a little switch it up a little bit.

1046
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: John, know what you're gonna ask, Don't ask it.

1047
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Don't ask it.

1048
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: John Morton taking artillery shells here. It reminds you of

1049
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's rookie season as a head coach. Why am

1050
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: I forgetting who his play caller was that he replaced

1051
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: in the middle Lynn of that season, Anthony Lynn, and

1052
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't think John Morton's going anywhere. But you saw

1053
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell with those glasses looking at his play sheet,

1054
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: losing his vision and the offense was awesome. Now was

1055
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: going against the Washington Commanders, So Dan Campbell was setting

1056
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: himself up for success and it absolutely worked. What I

1057
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: saw a lot of was we're gonna run Jamison Williams

1058
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: basically on the same route over and over again, and

1059
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders are not going to stop it one

1060
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: single time, and so we're gonna dress it up with

1061
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: different formations and we're just gonna keep making it happen.

1062
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: Six for one to nineteen for Jamison Williams. Amon ros

1063
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Saint Brown had a couple catches in a regrettable touchdown celebration,

1064
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: and yeah, a whole lot of Jamir Gibbs who gets

1065
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two yards on the ground with

1066
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: just some crazy individual efforts. It is fun to watch

1067
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks and great offenses against his commander's defense. Like,

1068
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: I know, the commander's defense stinks, but on the flip side,

1069
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: you get to watch them just make like great football

1070
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: players look their greatest.

1071
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like when teams and I obviously I don't

1072
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 4: like it for the other team. I'm sorry for the

1073
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: commanders on that one, but I like when teams show

1074
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 4: their work. I like when teams try things and build

1075
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: things in game because they have the ability to do it,

1076
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: whether it's a team that's going through a transition or

1077
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: a team that's just flat out doesn't have the guys

1078
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: like the Commanders right now, I like watching troubleshooting, game building,

1079
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: like I love watching those things in reason we want,

1080
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: you know, we want competitive games here. This is the NFL,

1081
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: after all, this is Roger Goodell's National Football League. We

1082
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 4: want competitive games. But I do love watching sort of

1083
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: you draw the different designs and then build off of

1084
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: them in the game like they did.

1085
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Right Like there was nothing I felt bad for, Like

1086
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders still at one point, who I think played

1087
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: pretty well in their secondary, was the best player in

1088
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: their secondary. But he's out there competing and everyone else

1089
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: is just getting filaid. Trey Amos left with an injury.

1090
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: The Commander's offense really had no chance because, like I said,

1091
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: the line scored every single time they had the ball.

1092
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: Thirty first downs and five hundred and forty six yards

1093
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: in a game where they only had eight real possessions

1094
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: before they're kneeled down. It is just outrageous efficiency from

1095
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: the line. So they'll get tested more coming up there

1096
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: at six and three Commanders fall to three and seven,

1097
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mentioned the long touchdown. Why don't we hear? Actually,

1098
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna say

1099
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm handing over play calling permanently, and maybe it won't

1100
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: be permanent for Campbell either, but I'm gonna handover play

1101
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: calling to Eric Roberts. I don't know if your mic

1102
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: is on right now, and you can tell me if

1103
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: you think this forty three yard rushing touchdown call is

1104
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: worth listening to, and if the play is worth you know,

1105
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: listening to, I'll give you the play call here. Greg,

1106
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: I've told you in the past, if I put it

1107
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: on the sheet, it's worth our time. I don't know.

1108
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 7: Let's go washing on defense now, got forty eight times.

1109
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 8: And home's god to five touch down Detroy lyon forty

1110
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 8: four yards, sir.

1111
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: The mayor kids putting together a day, and the Lions

1112
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: have opened the lead. It is now forty one to

1113
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: sixteen for a great call there by Dan Miller, Colomas

1114
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Brown and Eric Eric Roberts.

1115
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Greg, you're so red right now.

1116
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved I love it. When that's my

1117
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: love language is when people talk trash to me, right back.

1118
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: That's what I need, that's what I want, that's what

1119
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: fuels me. And and then I talk trash back to

1120
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: him because I know sometimes some of the press conference

1121
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: quotes you say, if you put it on the page,

1122
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: it's worth it, and sometimes they're not worth it. So

1123
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: that's when I have to do my Dan Campbell and

1124
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: be like, well, we might make a change. I don't

1125
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: know if we want to make a change. You might

1126
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: say this, but we're gonna We're learning.

1127
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: A little bit about Greg the love language. Yeah, it

1128
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: explains the uh explains to the.

1129
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: Belichick ex blames my marriage too. Let's go to Carolina.

1130
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: Third and so one four on third down, here comes

1131
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: some pressures. Shut out of the shot, soun Frozer deep

1132
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: down the far sideline looking for a LoVa. Oh, that's

1133
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: head of love.

1134
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 9: I will just tiptoe down the sideline into the inZone

1135
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 9: for a touchdown.

1136
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 20: Third and seven becomes touchdown Prissa.

1137
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: Love sixty two yards.

1138
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: We have done ten recaps this season. We have not

1139
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: heard a lot from my costs on WWL, and we

1140
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: have not talked about a game where the New Orleans

1141
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: Saints went belt to acts on another team. Seventeenth to

1142
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: seven against the Panthers in a game that should not

1143
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: have been that close. They double them up in yardage. Jordan,

1144
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: how did this happen?

1145
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm really excited to talk about what actually was

1146
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: a pretty ugly game and where it swung in the

1147
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: Saints favor. So you saw at that play it was

1148
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: ten seven Saints there. It stayed for quite some time. So, guys,

1149
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: if you will indulge me on this, we're going to

1150
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 4: play a game and it's interactive, Okay, So perk up, Greg.

1151
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: When I queue you, guys, you'll ask did they get points?

1152
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: Okay?

1153
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So let's practice. This is the queue.

1154
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: Did they get points?

1155
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 13: Great?

1156
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: Okay. So it's midway through the third quarter. The Saints

1157
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: are still up ten to seven and Bryce Young miss

1158
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: Xavier Leaguette in the end zone after climbing the pocket

1159
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 4: to throw. The Panthers get their field goal blocked. During

1160
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: the block, it becomes a live ball and the Panthers

1161
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: fall on it and get the ball back.

1162
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: Did they get points?

1163
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 18: No?

1164
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: Bryce Young and Jimmy Horn Junior fumble in exchange and

1165
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 4: Pete Warner recovers for the Saints at the New Orleans

1166
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 4: seventeen yard line.

1167
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: Did they get points?

1168
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 12: No.

1169
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: Panthers outside linebacker Nick s Gorton gets a big sack

1170
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: on Tyler Shuck on fourth and four early in the

1171
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: fourth quarter to give the Panthers back the ball at

1172
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: their forty.

1173
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Did they get points?

1174
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: We got to do it together.

1175
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: Bryce Young was intercepted on the next drive. It was

1176
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: a bad read and a bad throat. The Saints got

1177
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: the ball back in Panthers territory.

1178
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Did they get points?

1179
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 16: Yes.

1180
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: Shook hit Juwan Johnson for a thirty yard touchdown against J. C.

1181
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Horn.

1182
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: They went up seventeen to seven after the extra point

1183
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: and that is where it stayed. The Saints get their

1184
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: second win in Tyler Shuck's second start after a long,

1185
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: long middle bear.

1186
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I overstated it explosively at the beginning

1187
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: in terms of domination, but defensively a day where the

1188
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: Saints not only forced a couple turnovers you know late

1189
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: in the game, as you talked about, but they hold

1190
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Rico Daddle to two point nine yards per carry. Bryce

1191
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: Young ends up with only one hundred and twenty four

1192
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: yards and an interception. And yeah, it was a type

1193
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: of game that made you think the Panther season has

1194
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: been great so far, and they can have great Sundays

1195
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: moving forward. They're five and five. The type of game

1196
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine a team that's going to wind

1197
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: up making the NFC playoffs losing. Maybe they'll prove me wrong,

1198
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: but this is one you kind of can't lose.

1199
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1200
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: And meanwhile it's like this and they the things that

1201
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: they were doing well. You mentioned it, running the ball

1202
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 4: really effectively with your cot they were not doing well

1203
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 4: during this game. Bryce Young did not have a great game,

1204
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: made some bad throws, a couple bad reads, there was

1205
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: miscommunications at times between himself and Ted McMillan. Tyler Schuck,

1206
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: on the other hand, played really well. He was nineteen

1207
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: of twenty seven for two hundred eighty two yards and

1208
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: two touchdowns, a big yardage from the explosive plays. Like

1209
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: I mentioned before, he was poised. He did not fear

1210
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 4: the explosive throw. He saw the field well. A couple

1211
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: of big time throws, and my favorite of the bunch

1212
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: was this third and five to Chris o'lava that Olave

1213
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: drew a DEPI on as he went up and got

1214
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: it one handed. Let's take a look at it.

1215
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: Oof.

1216
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look at this. I told Greg to get

1217
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: out of his seat. Look at this.

1218
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: Olave is turning it on after a pretty slow start

1219
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: to the season. I feel like he has played really well.

1220
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: He did it with Rattler, but yes, every definitely happened

1221
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: with Chuck.

1222
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: And every angle of this just shows that not only

1223
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: is he excellent, excellent ball skills here, but also that

1224
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: Shook really trusts him, that they're starting to build a

1225
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: little bit of chemistry together. You could definitely see that today.

1226
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: And by the way, this stadium, Bank of America Stadium

1227
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: was where his season ended last season, and he told

1228
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 4: reporters post game that he didn't really try to think

1229
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: about it and didn't want to think about it leading

1230
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: up to the game, but he got really, really anxious

1231
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 4: once he stepped onto the field, and just getting out

1232
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 4: there and running around and playing football made him settle

1233
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: back in and feel a lot better because that was

1234
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: a scary, scary scene for him last year and.

1235
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: Good for him in a great performance where he gets

1236
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 3: that one hander on Shaw Smith Wade and he needed

1237
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 3: it needed to be one hand because Wade was fighting

1238
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: for his life and grabbing the other hand, and then

1239
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: on the touchdown pass where jac Horn has played great

1240
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: all season long, it just it looked like jac Horn

1241
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: not looking like an all pro level defender on that

1242
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: one play, which was a rough rep for JC and

1243
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck did his job.

1244
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: He got the bald crysal Love in a place where

1245
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 2: he could make a play.

1246
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they were hand fighting a lot, and I

1247
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: know Panthers fans like wanted to call there. I kind

1248
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: of appreciated that they let them play. That's a really

1249
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: great corner against a really great receiver. So it was

1250
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: it was really interesting. The player of the game still

1251
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: to me, was Derek Brown. I mean, this man is

1252
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: doing everything he possibly can and then some. He made

1253
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 4: a big stop on third down at midfield when the

1254
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: game was still like sort of locked at that ten

1255
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 4: to seven score and the Saints went for it, and

1256
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: Derek Brown like swammed the defender and shot into the backfield.

1257
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: And if Alvin Kamara was not Alvin Kamara and like

1258
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 4: made half his body go limp to avoid the tackle

1259
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: and then shoot underneath the blocking to convert, this play

1260
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 4: doesn't happen. And so it's like I would love for

1261
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 4: Derek Brown week over week over week to have more help.

1262
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 4: Jac Horn has played well for the most part. The

1263
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: linebackers are are hit or miss depending on the game.

1264
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: It's just this is an all time looking player and

1265
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: in his prime right now, and you really just need

1266
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 4: you need more from the offense. You need more from everybody.

1267
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: And they're gonna have their their down weeks. They're not

1268
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: a complete football team. But for the Saints to put

1269
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: up almost four hundred yards and for Shuck to go

1270
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: seven of ten for two hundred and one yards and

1271
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: two touchdowns on third downs, yeah pretty good. I thought

1272
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: he looked good last week. He looked pretty da Patter

1273
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of scoffed at me. I was like, I know,

1274
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: I know, it was ugly, but I thought he kind

1275
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: of grated. He kind of did his job last week

1276
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: against the Rams. I was like, it was a good

1277
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: first performance. He's not all that matters for the Saints.

1278
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: They're going to have a high pick won't be quite

1279
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: as high after today. They're at two and eight, But

1280
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: his rest of the season is the most important thing

1281
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: about this team, and he's off to a good start.

1282
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 4: If the Saints can remove some of the truly infuriating

1283
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: calls and decisions that they have on offense. I do

1284
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: think that this becomes a more complete team. The Taysom

1285
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 4: Hill stuff. Just take it out, please take it out,

1286
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: especially donate it short yardage stuff. Take it out, throw

1287
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: it away. He could still be on the team and

1288
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: have a great time, and you can use him on

1289
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: some of the little sort of like running back hybrid

1290
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 4: full back packages, but like, do stop lining them up

1291
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 4: in short yardage where everybody and their mother knows what's

1292
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: going to happen, and then you can't even get a yard.

1293
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple more things with this game. Number one,

1294
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: the survivor pick is over. You all wanted to take

1295
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, not a top twenty five team. I

1296
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: think in Dboa coming into week you all wanted to

1297
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 1: take them as a survivor pick. I said, I didn't

1298
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: like it. I don't support it, but I had to

1299
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: go along with you guys.

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: What game did you want?

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: I wanted the Seattle Seahawks against the Arizona Cardinals, and

1302
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: you guys did not want that.

1303
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: So you know, your memory is an interesting place.

1304
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: It's just a fact. It's literally on the podcast that

1305
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: everyone can.

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01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: Listen to, you're saying your selective memory.

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01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Eric well, I might have. I might have been reminded before.

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01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: Greg. You forget so many things frequently, but when you're right,

1309
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 4: you're trying.

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01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 22: To remind him about it, because now he just show

1311
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 22: that Greg does not listen to like the bad music,

1312
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 22: like the surviving music played into the game. And then

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 22: I hit him up in the middle of us and

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01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 22: he had the biggest like, yeah, oh that's right, but

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 22: yeah no. He ended last the preview show with a

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 22: I win either way, because if we win, we win,

1317
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 22: and then if we lose, you guys lose.

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Selective memory is yeah, well that that.

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: Comes in my ear from my excellent producersfurcating himself and

1320
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: removing himself from from terrible what we seek to terrible leadership.

1321
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: Uh here, it's not just.

1322
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: Shrabile removing himself from the personnel department when he likes him.

1323
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: That's true, But no, I ultimately hold myself responsible because

1324
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: I could have. I could have just should have just

1325
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: stopped it. It's just true. It's no respect. I should

1326
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: have stopped it from happening. What else is that Carolina Panthers.

1327
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: At least they came through on our picks with Cynthia Friedland.

1328
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: That's six straight winning weeks. By the way, on that

1329
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: before we go to the next game, I did want

1330
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: to mention here that Paul Taglibou passed away overnight and

1331
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: he was eighty four years old, and he was a

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01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: commissioner of the NFL for a long time, and uh,

1333
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: I thought this was a spot to do it, because

1334
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: he did one of the best things that I've seen

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01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: any commissioner in any sport do. And that's what stands

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: out to me is ple Tagley when he helped save

1337
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Younger listeners might not remember, like

1338
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: it was flat out reported by ESPN that the New

1339
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints were moving to San Antonio, and Tom Benson

1340
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: had made a lot of moves leading up to that

1341
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: report after Hurricane Katrina. He was going to take the

1342
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints away from that city after Hurricane Katrina,

1343
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: and Paul Taglibu, according to all the reporting at the

1344
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: time and afterwards, stepped in there and said, that is

1345
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: not happening. That is not happy on our watch. So

1346
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: in some part, the New Orleans Saints are are still

1347
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints because of Paul Taglibu. So rest

1348
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: in peace to Paul Taglibu eighty four years old. Let's

1349
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: go to Chicago.

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01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 9: Motion to the right on second at eight from the

1351
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 9: seventeen Klea Williams under center drags another Titan smipeon the motion.

1352
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 9: Here's the snap of the playfake Williams rolling to his

1353
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 9: left running.

1354
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 8: Now fifteen two hands old Jip Chozen touchdown in the

1355
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 8: blue peg.

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams seventeen yards. Took care of business himself. He

1357
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 9: absolutely did throughout the fourth quarter of that game. Six

1358
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 9: different scrambles, three for explosive plays. Caleb Williams gets it

1359
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 9: done with his legs, with his improvisational skills, and let's

1360
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 9: just say it, with his daring do this Chicago Bears team.

1361
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 9: You can put them behind in the fourth quarter, they

1362
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 9: will find a way to win. Twenty four to twenty

1363
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 9: two touchdowns in the final four minutes of this game.

1364
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 9: Another heartbreak loss for the New York Giants.

1365
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: More on that in a second. But I think you

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01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: got to give some love to Caleb when we criticize

1367
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: him for maybe relying too much on just making it

1368
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: up as he goes along and not staying in structure.

1369
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: I think you have to recognize the moments in a

1370
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: game like this one where some of the plays he

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: was making out of structure were just incredible that maybe

1372
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: no other quarterback could make and it wouldn't have been

1373
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: necessary maybe in these final moments if his receivers had

1374
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: caught some of those great plays that he made. A

1375
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: couple of Zakias drops and other ones in this game

1376
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: did not help Caleb Williams out, and he was not perfect,

1377
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: but he was a playmaker when they absolutely needed it.

1378
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: Today.

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe the six drops total for the game

1380
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 4: is the highest in any one NFL game so far

1381
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 4: this season. And I love it because it is Also

1382
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 4: we've talked a lot about, oh, Caleb Williams and his

1383
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: development and Caleb Williams and learning the system and figuring

1384
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 4: out how to you know, be with Ben Johnson and

1385
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 4: all that. It's the reverse. Also, it's Ben Johnson understanding, like,

1386
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 4: what are the prime moments, in the exact right moments

1387
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: to let this guy loose and to really do the

1388
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 4: things that make him so special as a quarterback and

1389
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: as just someone who sees the game in this very

1390
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 4: like seven dimensional way. It's just very very cool. And

1391
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 4: I loved that there were snow flurries in this game,

1392
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: and we got all these slow motion shots of him

1393
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 4: doing these insane like plane bending things, and the snow

1394
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: is swirling and the Bears fans can't even believe they're

1395
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 4: good fortune. They're all bundled up and hugging each other

1396
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: at the game like this was. This was a poetic,

1397
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: poetic game. Not if you're the Giants, no not, but

1398
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 4: out of the ways or the Bears fans, this was poetry.

1399
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: And this was, you know, a game where both teams

1400
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: had so many missed opportunities. There were two turnovers on

1401
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: downs by each team in the first half where they're

1402
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: going for fourth downs deep in the you know other

1403
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: teams end. One time it was at midfield for the Giants,

1404
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: but they're driving and they're struggling on those fourth downs.

1405
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: There were some crazy, you know decisions by the quarterbacks

1406
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: at times where they're almost going for too much. But

1407
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: ultimately the Giants are ahead seventeen to seven in this

1408
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: game before Jackson Dart runs for the sixth time in

1409
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: the final time he did on the day, and his

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: legs were such a huge part of this game. He

1411
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: gets sixty six yards on the ground. He's a great

1412
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: runner and he scores two touchdowns on the ground, but

1413
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: he takes a shot and he fumbles the ball while

1414
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: he takes a shot, and the Bears recover that play

1415
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: and the game really turned there. He did not leave

1416
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: the game right away after that play, which is where

1417
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: he suffered his concussion. He re entered the game for

1418
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: a couple more snaps and he clearly wasn't right in hindsight,

1419
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: and then he left the game. Russell Wilson finished it

1420
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: out and in the final three drives with Russell Wilson

1421
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: at the helm, the Giants had a total of seven yards.

1422
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: So essentially, the Giants offense and the Bears defense against

1423
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gave Caleb Williams those opportunities and he needed

1424
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: them because they failed to score on the first one

1425
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: of those post Russell Wilson drives, and they needed their

1426
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: defense to get him the ball back and he did.

1427
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: But really a depressing loss for the Giants to go

1428
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: to and it just feels so familiar, and even in

1429
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: a game where you really feel like you found your quarterback,

1430
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: there's the yeah butt, not just the loss, but the

1431
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: yeah but this guy needs to protect himself more.

1432
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. The feeling it's familiar because the Giants have blown

1433
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 4: four ten plus point leads this hotly cow. So yeah,

1434
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 4: of course the sense the ominous dread even when things

1435
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: are going right. This is a team. You know, there's

1436
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 4: a specific type of anxiety called catastrophizing, and this is

1437
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 4: a team that is the actual embodiment of it, because

1438
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 4: at what cost something good happens for them, they gain

1439
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: some positive progress, and you just have this feeling like

1440
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: something is lurking and looming around the corner. That is

1441
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 4: just I feel for Giants fans, I feel for the players,

1442
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 4: I feel for the I feel for everybody because it

1443
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 4: just all it just feels like this is a pattern

1444
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: that they cannot get out of.

1445
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 3: Well, the pattern that they were in in this game

1446
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: was pulling tackles and guards with Jackson Dart and going

1447
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: straight quarterback power and having a whole lot of success.

1448
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: So even on the play where Dart does fumble and

1449
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: him reaching and trying to get the fumble, I think

1450
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: was key in the way that his head actually hit

1451
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: the ground, which the fumble happens kind of before the

1452
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: ultimate injury there. And it just to see Russell Wilson

1453
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: come in the game and so to Russ's benefit. The

1454
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 3: game's not at net Life, so they can't boo him

1455
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: the moment that he steps onto the field, which is

1456
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: something that they're doing. But everything is completely different. And

1457
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: I understand that Russell Wilson is a veteran quarterback that

1458
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: can't run like he used to, but you could still

1459
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: have Russ run. And Russ did scramble in this game.

1460
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: And to defend Russ, because Dart wasn't officially ruled out,

1461
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: he did have a forty one yard completion before Dart

1462
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: was officially ruled out. And they have a goal to

1463
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: go situation inside the five, and they wound up getting

1464
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 3: a young Way coup field goal. You gotta wonder, like,

1465
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: why why is it that the offense looks so entirely different?

1466
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 3: And when the rookie quarterback is in first the veteran quarterback,

1467
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: can you not make it look somewhat simire?

1468
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 1: Well, can you run the because you might get fired

1469
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: tomorrow or Tuesday and you're gonna go out, Sorry, you're

1470
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: gonna go out. Not going for it. There was a

1471
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: penalty on the young waykup field goal that then pushed

1472
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: the ball and they were already inside the five, but

1473
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: push the ball to the one yard line, and Brian

1474
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: Dable up seven points at that point, says, we're gonna

1475
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: take the three points. We're not gonna take it off

1476
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: the board instead of going for the touchdown to try

1477
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: to win this, just try to get a yard, try

1478
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 1: to be a team and if not, trust your defense

1479
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: to stop them from getting a ninety nine yard drive.

1480
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: And if not that then you're you're in a tie

1481
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: ball game. Anyways, and he keeps the three points on

1482
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: and that that is Mike Tomlin when he talks about

1483
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: living in your fears, that is living in your fears.

1484
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: And it's disappointing because Jackson Dart played awesome in this game.

1485
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: I am really getting convinced about Jackson Dart. Like as

1486
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: great as Caleb Williams played in this game, Jackson Dart

1487
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: was as good in this game like the ground but

1488
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: also a lot of money throws for fifty five minutes

1489
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: of this game. It was really such a different story.

1490
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: And I think they found their guy. I mean, I

1491
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: know it's like a small sample size, but Manny has

1492
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: been better than I expected. So that kind of like

1493
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: Drake may last year for the Patriots, I'm not putting

1494
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: him at Like, I'm not saying they're the same players,

1495
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: but I think they got to feel pretty good even

1496
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: if this is a totally lost season with a coach

1497
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: that gets fired like the Patriots a year.

1498
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that the organization very clearly believes that they've

1499
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 4: they've found their guy. And you can feel it the

1500
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 4: way that the team previously has galvanized behind him, and

1501
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 4: they found their running back and they galvanized behind him,

1502
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: and everybody is galvanizing behind these these two players, and

1503
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you know it is a

1504
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 4: double edged sword because of his play style at which

1505
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 4: he is the most successful. This is the second trip

1506
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 4: to the Blue Tent, and obviously one went you know,

1507
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: the way of Jackson Dart would have preferred, and the

1508
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 4: other one he clearly is in the concussion protocol. So

1509
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: it is something to think about when you're playing like

1510
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 4: this and you have so much hope and everything feels

1511
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 4: like maybe the dawn is coming around the corner of

1512
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 4: the hopes. What kills you something?

1513
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: I know, they had so many cool creative plays who

1514
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: it was way more under center runs. It was actually

1515
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: way less in Shotgun. They had Andrew Thomas playing tight

1516
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: end on the right side on one play that was

1517
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: so cool and then in the end you have to

1518
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: wonder like they set a all time Giants road losing

1519
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: streak record, which Brian Table was asked about during the

1520
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: week by a very gutsy reporter Pat Leonard, who was

1521
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: just like, what do you think about that?

1522
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 4: It just okay, has no fear. Pat is the Jackson

1523
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: dark power run Yes of Beat report.

1524
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 18: He is that.

1525
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: He is the ced deuce of Beat reporters. Chauncey Gardner.

1526
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Johnson is the one that forced that fumble. He has

1527
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: three sacks in two games as a member of the

1528
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,759
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and it's been absolutely crucial in their winning

1529
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: those to save da and it's c that is amazing.

1530
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: Let's take one break and let's say goodbye to you guys.

1531
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: This was a lot of fun.

1532
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: You know.

1533
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: Why he came at me. He pushed, we pulled. It's

1534
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: all part of the beautiful CORNICOPI have sports.

1535
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: Have a good rest of the show. Everybody.

1536
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 11: Third down and twelve Bushett, Let's get hit again. Ball

1537
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 11: bounces Are you kidding me? And go to j Logan

1538
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 11: another touchdown?

1539
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 8: Three Hawks, Holy catfish, I think strikes twice. Go to

1540
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 8: see Hawks kay Fens Corsett rims back to throw, gets.

1541
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 1: Hit, arm's not going forward, ball.

1542
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 8: Bounces right to DeMarcus Lawrence his second touchdown of the game.

1543
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: You can watch football for the next one hundred years.

1544
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see the same player,

1545
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: Tyrese Knight, in this case, force a fumble and have

1546
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman return it for a touchdown for more

1547
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: than twenty yards twice in the same first half in

1548
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: an NFL game. Ever, again, I mean that is absolutely outrageous.

1549
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: Tyree Knight did it in the first quarter. DeMarcus Lawrence

1550
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: goes thirty four yards. He does it in the second quarter.

1551
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence goes twenty two yards wild Steve Rabel kit

1552
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: kiro that was Dave Wyman two. Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence had

1553
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: a data remember it, so did the defense. Forty four

1554
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: to twenty to. Nick Schuk has joined us, and you

1555
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: get to describe how this Seahawks team is coming up

1556
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: with new and insane ways to embarrass who whover they're

1557
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: playing that week.

1558
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 16: Well, first off, you're an absolute pro for team me

1559
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 16: up for this because you're right, you won't see that

1560
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 16: happen twice in a game. You know why because DeMarcus

1561
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 16: Loris became the first player at NFL history with multiple

1562
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 16: defensive fubble return touchdowns of twenty plus yard Okay, thank you,

1563
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 16: thank you okay, And he joined a group of three

1564
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 16: other players, one happening in nineteen twenty for just returning

1565
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 16: multiple fumbles for touchdowns and may they.

1566
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: Both came from Tyres Night Like he made the bigger

1567
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: He was the better player on those I mean they

1568
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: were both great, but yeah, he made.

1569
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 16: The plays shockingly identical or nearly identical to the point

1570
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 16: where it happens the first time and you're like, oh, wow,

1571
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 16: that's great, and then it happens again and I'm like rewinding,

1572
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 16: like did did am I watching the same player that

1573
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 16: happened before?

1574
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 23: I know?

1575
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,919
Speaker 13: The score is different. The Seahawks are a monster defensively.

1576
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 16: We've talked about this for weeks, but it felt like

1577
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 16: this may have been the first game where I watched

1578
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 16: the Seahawks take the field with nothing but aggression on

1579
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 16: their mind, like we are going to take the fight

1580
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 16: to the opponent.

1581
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 13: We are going to get after them relentlessly. We're gonna blitz.

1582
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 16: We don't care what the repercussions could be if we

1583
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 16: don't get home, because we know we're gonna get home,

1584
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 16: and they got home plenty. They wrecked the Cardinals offense.

1585
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 16: The Seahawks offense continues to be very productive. Before you

1586
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 16: knew it, blink and I they're up twenty eight nothing.

1587
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 16: At one point in this game, they're up thirty five

1588
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 16: to nothing. The Cardinals were buried before they could even

1589
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 16: get out of bed, and we basically cruised from there

1590
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 16: forty four to twenty two.

1591
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 13: Year final.

1592
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in a game where Sam Darnold ends

1593
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: up losing three turnovers in like a five possessions you

1594
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: know span and it doesn't matter at all. Like that's

1595
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: how you know your team is great, because, yeah, that

1596
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: thirty five nothing, it's not like it took that long

1597
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: to get there. It's like early second quarter, that midway

1598
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: that happens. Yeah, it's insane. They had ten quarterback hits

1599
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: in the game. They also had ten passes defense, so

1600
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: they're filling up the stat sheet and they just have

1601
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: so many different players doing it. Nick em and Worry

1602
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: looking great And at one point the yardage was two

1603
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: ten to thirty two. And this is just an answer Shook.

1604
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: I was unaware that there were some haters, according to

1605
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts telling me to our power rankings putting the

1606
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks number one. Apparently the Seahawks are way lower everywhere else.

1607
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 1: And I'd like to just present this game as exhibit

1608
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: a why the haters can eat it and why I

1609
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: never hear from the haters anyways.

1610
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, feather in the cap. Look who was right for

1611
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 16: at least one week, these two guys.

1612
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the NFL. They play the Rams

1613
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: next week. What do you what do you think about

1614
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Kyler Murray goes on injured

1615
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: reserve and would this game been any different? Like it's

1616
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: a statue of a quarterback back there not the guy

1617
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: who's going to be able to get away from this

1618
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: sort of pass rush, Jacoby Brissett.

1619
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 16: I mean, there are more statutsu quarterbacks in the NFL,

1620
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 16: looking at you, Joe Flacco than Jacoby Brissette. But yes,

1621
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 16: he is not a very mobile guy and when he

1622
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 16: does try to run, he usually gets hawked down. So

1623
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 16: that's a fair point to make. But I think that

1624
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 16: against this Seahawks defense, this might sound hyperbolic. That's fine.

1625
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: You can call me.

1626
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 13: You know, I'm drinking the Seahawks kool aid. I don't care.

1627
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 16: They are so good at getting pressure from so many

1628
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 16: different angles that I don't care who's playing quarterback back there,

1629
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 16: because they're gonna get home, especially, you know, against a

1630
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 16: team that's struggling to pick up blitzes like they did.

1631
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 16: The first Tyrese Knight Force fumble was five man rush.

1632
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 16: The second one was a six man rush. They both

1633
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 16: looked identical because that's how good they are at scheme

1634
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 16: me up different ways to get after the quarterback. So

1635
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 16: I don't really think it's quarterback dependent. And I will

1636
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 16: give the Cardinals a little bit of credit because.

1637
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 13: They did battle in this game. They did find a

1638
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 13: way to get some things going.

1639
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 16: Jacoby Brissette was feeding Marvin Harrison Junior twelve times three connections,

1640
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 16: Harrison looking very visibly frustrated, but they did have a really.

1641
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 13: Nice back shoulder fade, so they stayed in the fight.

1642
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 16: But ultimately, when you fall behind by that much and

1643
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 16: then you allow the Seahawks to call the vast majority

1644
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 16: of their plays, I believe it was let's see, I

1645
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 16: have the number here.

1646
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 13: They called a run.

1647
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 16: Play seventy eight percent of the time, like you know what,

1648
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 16: the script is gonna be there. It's the third highest

1649
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 16: rate in the next.

1650
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 13: Gen game in a game in the next gen aras

1651
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:51,959
Speaker 13: Wow fixteen.

1652
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, and you know what, they were pretty

1653
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: efficient doing it. So before we moved from this game,

1654
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: just what did you see out of this running game

1655
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: with ken Walker in Sharbonay.

1656
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 16: Some quality blocking but really tackle breaking, whether it was

1657
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 16: sharbon Ay or Walker, especially Sharbonay just running through guys.

1658
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 16: It seemed like they I don't know if this is

1659
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 16: something that's new or that they had an approach they

1660
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 16: were focused on this going into this game, but it

1661
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 16: felt like they were running with an intent to be

1662
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 16: more violent, if that makes sense, even to the point

1663
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 16: where George Lani's getting involved and he had seven carries

1664
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 16: for thirty one yards, but all of his runs were

1665
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 16: really hard and there was a it was a run

1666
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 16: by Sharbonay, a long one where he kind of like

1667
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 16: it's basically like you get the block here, you get

1668
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 16: the block here, you hit the hole, You're You're through it,

1669
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 16: You're through it. Like they're repeatedly hitting the hole with burst,

1670
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 16: which is something that they've lacked before.

1671
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 13: It Wasn't you know.

1672
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 16: It's not like watching Jonathan Taylor run, for example, but

1673
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 16: it was really encouraging considering the fact that they've struggled

1674
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 16: to run the ball consistently.

1675
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: Seven and two atop the division, atop the conference. Early

1676
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: NFC game of the year, although we kind of have

1677
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: one every week coming up. We also have one on

1678
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: Monday night join us on YouTube live me and shook

1679
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: Eagles Packers. That's going to be really fun. But next

1680
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: week we weirdly buried at a four h five window,

1681
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 1: not four twenty five. It's not The national game is

1682
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams, so really looking forward to that. I am

1683
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: sure Sam Darnold is gonna have to throw the ball

1684
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: more than twelve times. What a bizarre stat line, by

1685
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: the way, two incompletions sixteen yards per attempt. But the

1686
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: three turnovers too. So weird game. Great game, Seahawks showing

1687
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: they are an absolute wagon. Let's go to what I

1688
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: felt was one of the dumbest, most fun ridiculous games

1689
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: of the entire twenty twenty five season.

1690
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 18: Hold on, buckle up thirty seven seconds to go twenty

1691
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 18: nine to twenty four, Texans trailing third and goal at

1692
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 18: the fourteen. Mills shotgun Marks to his left. Two receivers

1693
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 18: watchside right. Here's the snap, Davis looking, Davis stepping to

1694
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 18: his left, Davis.

1695
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: On the run.

1696
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 1: Ten Davis five Davis to the corner. Davis touchdown, go stand.

1697
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 9: The Texans take.

1698
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 12: The lead on the Mill scramble. Amazing. Dmails gets it done. Damails.

1699
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: He stuck his knock out and he got the win,

1700
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: and he got the over two hundred and twelve passing

1701
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: yards that I put on game debut. Thank you, Davis Mills.

1702
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Mark Vandermir on k I l T. Davis Mills was

1703
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback of an NFL team Shook that outscored their

1704
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: opponent on Sunday twenty six to nothing in the fourth quarter.

1705
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: True or false? True false.

1706
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 13: I mean it happened.

1707
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: I watched it happen.

1708
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 13: Okay, I thought there was a follow up there. I'm

1709
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 13: more shocked.

1710
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 16: I've never heard your voice go to that range before.

1711
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 16: I'm still stunned that you could get there.

1712
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you give me a chance to

1713
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: make a Mark Vandermir impression. I'm gonna take it. What

1714
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: happened because I joined late and this this was a

1715
01:23:59,000 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: lot of fun.

1716
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 16: Okay, So late third quarter, Jack's going on eleven play,

1717
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 16: fifty eight yard drive, Eatn finishes off for the touchdown run.

1718
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 16: It looks like they've buried the Texans. This game is over.

1719
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 16: The Texans defense can't stop them enough to make it

1720
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 16: a game. And then the Texans find a way to

1721
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 16: move the football. Davis Mills starts throwing it with zero

1722
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 16: fear for what might happen, and they get down the

1723
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 16: field thirteen plays, sixty five yards, four minutes and seventeen seconds.

1724
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 16: It's twenty nine to eighteen. Okay, what maybe they're only

1725
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 16: down eleven. They have a shot, because that's when the

1726
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 16: Texans defense remembered who they were. Three and out, get

1727
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 16: the ball back to Davis Mills. Another touchdown, dime of

1728
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 16: a pass thrown to Dalton Schultz over two defenders. Three

1729
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 16: and out again, give Davis Mills the ball again. It's

1730
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 16: third and ten. They're deep inside their own territory. Who

1731
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 16: does he look for? He breaks the pockety rolls right.

1732
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 16: He finds Dalton Schultz on a perfect pass that keeps

1733
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 16: that drive going, and in the biggest moment, you heard

1734
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 16: it right there, Davis Mills takes off, shows off the

1735
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 16: athleticism and gets into the end zone. And by the

1736
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 16: end of this game, when the game finally ended with

1737
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 16: a Shelton Rankins fumble return for a touchdown, Liam Cohen

1738
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 16: was so angry.

1739
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 13: He threw his play sheet. He threw his headset. He

1740
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 13: tried to walk.

1741
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 16: Toward where he'd thrown it, as if he couldn't get

1742
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 16: off the field faster if he wanted to. There goes

1743
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 16: the headset. If you're watching on YouTube, he ends up

1744
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 16: throwing the play sheet. Boom gone. Now he goes to

1745
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 16: the belt, drop the ball. I'll throw up the headset.

1746
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 16: I might as well start taking clothes off at this point.

1747
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 13: That's how upset I am with the way this game went.

1748
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 13: And it was all because the Texans their willingness to battle.

1749
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 16: Baby.

1750
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: You saw the assistant that was behind them that immediately

1751
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: starts picking it up, and then you see Liam see

1752
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: the assistant picking it up, and then so he goes

1753
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: and picks up part of the other because he's feeling

1754
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: bad that he's making his assistant pick it up, and

1755
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: he was not happy. Let's listen to Liam Cohen after

1756
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: the game.

1757
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 23: The whole message was to squeeze the life out of

1758
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 23: these guys in the second half and go take it.

1759
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: Go take it.

1760
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 23: And it's been a frustration for a while now, obviously,

1761
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 23: the combination of lack of getting to the quarterback and

1762
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 23: when we do finishing it. But it definitely needs to

1763
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 23: continue to get evaluated and see who can help us

1764
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 23: do those things too.

1765
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, they haven't been getting much of a

1766
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: pass rush. It's interesting he called that out specifically. In

1767
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the end, the Texans almost doubled up the Jags and

1768
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 1: yards four twelve to two thirteen. And anytime you outscore

1769
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: an opponent twenty six to nothing in the fourth quarter,

1770
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: like that's a candidate for one of the craziest games

1771
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: of the year. When you do it in this fashion

1772
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: with Davis Mills, you know, running for a touchdown after

1773
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: you have first and goal at the two yard line

1774
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: and then you end up at second in goal on

1775
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: the fourteen yard line because you're just textinging it up

1776
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: with all these penalties to move you back, and then

1777
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills runs it in of all things. And then

1778
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: when that's followed up by just one of the most

1779
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: delightful ways to finish the game of the season, that's

1780
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: that's where you get into special territory. Let's listen.

1781
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Three man rush.

1782
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 18: It appears on first and twenty for the Jags from

1783
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 18: their thirty five Lawrence and the gun bunch four nation

1784
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 18: left seven seconds to go. Here's the snap to Trevor

1785
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,440
Speaker 18: Lawrence backing up, stepping up, Lawrence tripped.

1786
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Up, the balls out.

1787
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 18: The Texans have it across the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown.

1788
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Houston rackins game over.

1789
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 4: The Texans win it.

1790
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 1: Houston comes all the way back to defeat the Jaguars.

1791
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 12: The Texans have changed their season around with a traumatic

1792
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 12: comeback for the Agents.

1793
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: I love it and I believe it. They needed this

1794
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: one to get to four and five. I mean, now

1795
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: chef's kiss for that to be the final play. But also,

1796
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: what was Trevor Lawrence doing there again?

1797
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 16: What was happening on that trying to break the pocket

1798
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 16: and find somebody down to Here's the thing. Two plays prior,

1799
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 16: maybe it was a play prior, he actually through a

1800
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 16: really good ball to the sideline that would have put

1801
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 16: them in cam Little's range.

1802
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 13: Gets called back for illegal hands in the face.

1803
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 16: The sixth lineman got his hands in the face, and

1804
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 16: that was because they couldn't stop the Texans pass rush

1805
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 16: in the fourth quarter, daneil Hunter three and a half

1806
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 16: sacks tied a career high. He was a big part

1807
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 16: of it, so was Will Anderson. So at that point,

1808
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 16: Lawrence has nothing left to do but try to find

1809
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 16: somebody downfield with the clock essentially expired.

1810
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh you too, You're too kind to him, And there

1811
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: you go.

1812
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 13: You get the turnover that ends the game.

1813
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 16: Although Sheldon Megan's almost got the leon Lett treatment, like

1814
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 16: there was a little bit of Don beebe chasing him

1815
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 16: down there.

1816
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Good thing he got across the goal line, barely got across.

1817
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: But you're too kind to him. You watched the whole game.

1818
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence, that's a play. They're trying to get

1819
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: to the sideline to get into Cam Little's range. They

1820
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: have seven seconds left, and obviously at that point after

1821
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the penalty, it's a long shot. They're at their own

1822
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: thirty five. But you get like fifteen yards there, you

1823
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: give Cam Little a chance. You get ten yards there,

1824
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: you give Cam Little chance. It looked like we were

1825
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: going to have a Cam Little tempt and you got

1826
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: to get rid of that ball quickly. And he sees

1827
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: that the sideline routes are covered you just got to

1828
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: give your guy a chance. You just gotta throw it.

1829
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: You just got to throw the ball. And if you

1830
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: don't throw it to them, you just got to throw

1831
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: it away to at least set up for one more

1832
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: final play. The thing you can't do is just kind

1833
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: of freeze and hold the ball. And that's kind of

1834
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence type of play, it's all.

1835
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 16: And as that play was unfolding, I'm watching the clock

1836
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 16: and I'm thinking, even if they completed, their screwed like

1837
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 16: they're cooked.

1838
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 13: And that's what happened.

1839
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: The Texans are four and five, the Jags are five

1840
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: and four, and yet they feel so different. The Jags,

1841
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: after they're hot three to zero start, have really come

1842
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: back to the pack. Even the running game wasn't consistent today,

1843
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: although it rarely is against the Texans. And the Texans

1844
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: have the Titans next week, and they have maybe the

1845
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: best defense in the league, and they're in a conference

1846
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: where maybe the seventh seed could sneak in there, and

1847
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: they get to five and five, So that really does

1848
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: feel like, at least for now, a season saving win

1849
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: for the Texans. Let's move on to a game where

1850
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: neither team is saving their season, at least not in

1851
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: this season. But it doesn't mean that we can't have

1852
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of fun.

1853
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 14: So Isaiah Williams back deep to receive the punt took Bejorquez,

1854
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 14: and once again he'll kick it away from inside his

1855
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 14: own twenty yard line, again returnable. Running right with a

1856
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 14: flag down, Williams at the twenty six yard line. He

1857
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 14: gets loose down the sideline of the fifty cuts him

1858
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 14: back left of the forting he's at the thirty. They'll

1859
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 14: go all the way ten five.

1860
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 20: Touchdown for the Jets with their second consecutive kick return

1861
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 20: touchdown Kna Wong Woo for ninety nine yard. So now

1862
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 20: Isaiah Williams does the trick for seventy six.

1863
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Pretty rare you see two straight return touchdowns, and I

1864
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 1: bet it's even rarer if the team that pulls that

1865
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: off loses the game. At that point, I didn't care

1866
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: what the score was. I was like, they're going to

1867
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: win this game one way or another. It was close

1868
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to the Jets win twenty seven to twenty. That was

1869
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Bob was shoozing on wax Q for clarity. That was

1870
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: Isaiah Williams on a punt return touchdown and Yeah, Kenny

1871
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: wang Wu had a ninety nine yard kickoff return touchdown

1872
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 1: earlier in the first quarters. So on a day shook

1873
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: where Justin Fields had fifty four passing yards, the Jets

1874
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: would win pretty comfortably because it was a Browns field

1875
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: goal late that even made it a one score game.

1876
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, just another research note while I have it up

1877
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 13: in front of me.

1878
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 16: They beat the Browns today despite having only forty two

1879
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 16: net passing yards. It's the fewest passing yards by the

1880
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 16: Jets and a win since Week five of nineteen seventy three. Wow,

1881
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 16: and that's back when they barely threw the ball. The

1882
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 16: forward pass is barely even invented. I'm kidding, of course. Yeah,

1883
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 16: this game was really weird because those return touchdowns obviously

1884
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 16: revital to your final score, but it was also right

1885
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 16: after the Browns had led a nine play ninety five

1886
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 16: yard touchdown drive that was one of the most impressive

1887
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 16: drives I've seen from them all season, especially when it

1888
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 16: came to how Dylan Gabriel led that drive instantly within

1889
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 16: two returns. The Jets have full command of the momentum

1890
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 16: of this game. They're at home and the Browns are

1891
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 16: back to square one. Having to try to climb back

1892
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 16: into this game, which they ultimately did not do. It

1893
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 16: gave the Jets a team that had every reason in

1894
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 16: the world to lay down and just sleep walk through

1895
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 16: this game after they traded away two of their best

1896
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 16: players of the deadline and signaled that if it's not

1897
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 16: a teardown, we're looking toward the future and not this season. Instead,

1898
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,719
Speaker 16: they came out and battled. They fought through. At firstly,

1899
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 16: they couldn't throw the football, they couldn't get anything going offensively,

1900
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 16: so the return game gets involved, then the defenses all

1901
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 16: over the Browns quarterbacks and everything else, and then presall

1902
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 16: finishes it off a complete win, not statistically but visually,

1903
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 16: a complete all three phases of the game win for

1904
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 16: the Jets.

1905
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. The guy that they didn't trade away

1906
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Bresee Hall, and they didn't have a high success rate

1907
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: by any means, neither running game did. But he ends

1908
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: up with eighty three yards on the ground because he

1909
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: did have a big run, and then he has a

1910
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: forty two yard touchdown catch that you know, comprised almost

1911
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: all of Justin Field's passing yards for the day. The

1912
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: second leading receiver for the Jets was Isaiah Williams with

1913
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: four yards crazy.

1914
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 16: Tied, tied with Mason Taylor one catch four yards, one

1915
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 16: yard ahead of John Metchi one catch, three yard.

1916
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 13: That's what the whole offense was.

1917
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the type of loss that I if

1918
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski is going to be on the hot seat,

1919
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: if the GM is going to be on the hot seat, Like,

1920
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: this is the type of loss that would do it.

1921
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: Losing to the Jets, even if it helps out your,

1922
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, situation in terms of the draft as a

1923
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: as a Browns fan. What disappointed you here?

1924
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 21: Oh?

1925
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 2: God?

1926
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 13: Well, I mean where does start start? Yeah? It was

1927
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 13: really the fashion of which this game ended. You know,

1928
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 13: you know that the Browns defense is going to keep

1929
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 13: them in.

1930
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 16: The game and then they're going to eventually run out

1931
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 16: of gas in the fourth quarter, which is what happened

1932
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 16: on that Breeze Hall screen. But it was the way

1933
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 16: that the defense and the game ended. Because the Browns

1934
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 16: need one stop, they have all three timeouts, they get

1935
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 16: it down outside the two minute warning, they're about to

1936
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 16: get the stop, and then there's a holding call on

1937
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 16: third and like sixteen on Devin Bush, and then that

1938
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,600
Speaker 16: gets the Jets a new fresh set of downs, and

1939
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 16: then they take it to the two minute warning and

1940
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 16: the Browns they still have like a timeout or two left,

1941
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 16: and then they get another stop and it's fourth and

1942
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 16: four and the Browns jump off sides and give them

1943
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 16: another fresh set of downs and never get the ball back.

1944
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 16: They would have had the ball back with like thirty

1945
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 16: or forty seconds at the most, but the fact that

1946
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 16: they committed two penalties and two crucial downs and never even.

1947
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 13: Saw the football again.

1948
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 16: This game to me, and I've been one of those

1949
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 16: people that have just said, hey, the Browns are not

1950
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 16: playing for this year.

1951
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 13: It's very clear.

1952
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 16: This was the first time I've seen them lose a

1953
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 16: game this year in which I thought I could see

1954
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 16: somebody getting fired tomorrow. Now it's probably your special teams

1955
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 16: coordinator other than Trone, because of the returns that they've

1956
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 16: given up in the miscues that they've had on that

1957
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 16: side of the ball. But I could definitely see somebody

1958
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 16: losing their job because of how bad they looked at

1959
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 16: the end of this game.

1960
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Disappointing and exciting for the Jets. I do think there

1961
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: is a best case scenario where they win a few

1962
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: games down the stretch and at least feel like they're

1963
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: headed in the right direction and it's okay.

1964
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1965
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: The loss knocks them down to number five in terms

1966
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: of their pick. In terms of Tankathon, the Browns are

1967
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 1: at four. It We're going to have a lot of

1968
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: Titans and Raiders games, you know, up in Jets and

1969
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: Brown's households to see who ends up getting that number

1970
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: one overall pick. We will see. But the Jets win

1971
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: two straight and the Browns lose coming out of the by.

1972
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Let's take one last break and then we will get

1973
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: to Sunday night football fun one Chargers and the steam

1974
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: It could be fun, even if it's low scoring.

1975
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 19: Hopefully Herbert hands to Kimani Kimani into the unisold touchdown

1976
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 19: Chargers Chimani byel rewarded for all those hard runs earlier today.

1977
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: With the score.

1978
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 10: And the Chargers are up twenty one to three, he's

1979
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 10: getting it done in pass protection, He's getting it done

1980
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 10: on the goal line. It's Keimani vy Dell Troy Zone,

1981
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 10: Patrick Claiban's favorite player in the NFL, in for a

1982
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 10: touchdown to give the Chargers in insurmountable lead in a

1983
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 10: laugher on Sunday night, the Chargers win. Nick shook twenty

1984
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 10: five to ten in the game that Justin Herbert didn't

1985
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 10: even have to be superman.

1986
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: He was just a normal man. And that's because his

1987
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: defense kept setting him up. And eventually the damn broke

1988
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: in that running game and the Chargers offense took care

1989
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: of the rest of it. Yeah.

1990
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 16: What a testament to cohesive defense by the Chargers tonight,

1991
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 16: because if you dive into the numbers, it's not like

1992
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 16: they were getting after Aaron Rodgers on every play. They

1993
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 16: played phenomenal coverage. They largely bottled up the runs save

1994
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 16: for a few highlight runs, you know, the Jalen Warren

1995
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 16: hurdle being one of them. They just played a complete

1996
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 16: game on that side of the football and because of that,

1997
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 16: they were able to take a low scoring, some might

1998
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 16: say boring or unexciting affair and turned into a lopsided victory,

1999
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 16: and one that I don't think I saw coming, not

2000
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 16: given the fact that you know, they had some offensive

2001
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 16: line losses. I thought they were going to struggle like

2002
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 16: Daniel Jones and the Colts did against the Steelers a

2003
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 16: week earlier.

2004
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 13: No, I don't all they got the job done.

2005
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like they protected Herbert that well hit.

2006
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: He got pressured a lot. You know, their starting tackles

2007
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: in this game were what Pipkins and Austin Decliss. Deckliss

2008
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: was struggling, but they weren't in third and long too

2009
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: often they stuck with the run even when it wasn't working.

2010
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: And you say it's a boring game. I say it

2011
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: could never be boring for any Aaron Rodgers haters to

2012
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 1: be watching him have. But perhaps his worst game that

2013
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 1: he's ever had in primetime. He looks so old in

2014
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: this game. Going into that garbage time drive, they'd only

2015
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: scored three points Nick shook, and those three points came

2016
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: on a three and out that was set up by

2017
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: a short field. He had a pressure to sack ratio

2018
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: of all of them for much of the game. It

2019
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: was like if there was pressure, there was a sack.

2020
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: He was dirting the ball, he's avoiding pressure. It just

2021
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: was disgusting. And when you think about the two big

2022
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,560
Speaker 1: turning points in the first half of this game, the

2023
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: biggest one to me was his interception just before the

2024
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: two minute warning, when the Steelers are still leading the game,

2025
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 1: or they're right there, rather and it's five to three,

2026
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 1: and that sets up the Chargers touchdown right before halftime

2027
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: and then the first Chargers score of the game. Let's

2028
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: listen to it.

2029
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 19: Three on the play clock. Rogers has time climbing in

2030
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 19: the pocket. Here comes Khalil Mack in the end zone.

2031
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 19: He drops home safety. Oh, raise your hands and put

2032
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 19: them together. The Chargers got two points, and what a

2033
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 19: way to cement a legacy that only he and Kevin

2034
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 19: Green have. That is his thirty fifth sack as a Charger,

2035
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 19: Ian Green the only two players to do it with

2036
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 19: three different franchises.

2037
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good stat Great job by the way

2038
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 1: on both those calls by Matt money Smith. Our friend

2039
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah just quiet again on k f I. It

2040
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,959
Speaker 1: is a reminder Khalil Mack was awesome for an extended

2041
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: period of time for three different teams. You don't see

2042
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: that too often. Kevin Green's in the Hall of Fame.

2043
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack will join him one day. What did you

2044
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: think about Rogers just being so stymied throughout this game?

2045
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 16: I've found I hate that this is the case. I mean,

2046
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 16: I mean, if you're an Aaron Rodgers hater, you'll love this.

2047
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 16: But it seems like every week Aaron Rodgers is pissed

2048
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 16: off as teammates the entire game, and he was very

2049
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 16: upset with them for most of this game. And I

2050
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 16: think it's a combination of guys aren't getting open, Guys

2051
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 16: aren't running the routes, specifically how I want them to

2052
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 16: run them. I'm not getting protected long enough to be

2053
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 16: able to do what I want to do. And I

2054
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 16: also think it's him grappling with the idea of father time.

2055
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 16: Not to say that he looks exceptionally old, but when

2056
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 16: he tries to get mobile unless there's ample space, because

2057
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 16: he'll still roll out and flick it, you know, and

2058
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 16: get it downfield.

2059
01:39:58,479 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 13: But when he's under duress, it looks bad.

2060
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: Now.

2061
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,600
Speaker 16: It did not look bad earlier in his career, and

2062
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 16: you know it should look bad for a forty one

2063
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 16: year old. It felt like it discombobulated him all night.

2064
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 16: He never felt comfortable, and oftentimes guys just weren't open.

2065
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 16: Whatever those Steelers are trying to do offensively scheme wise

2066
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 16: just wasn't working against this Chargers defense until they scored

2067
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 16: a touchdown late in the game. And I think that

2068
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 16: that is a repeat case of what we've seen far

2069
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 16: too often with this team. You can go back to

2070
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,759
Speaker 16: that game against the Packers in prime time, similar situation

2071
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 16: where Rogers again is just frustrated with the outcome and

2072
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 16: the fact that he can't do what he wants to do.

2073
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 13: So a tough spot for them. They're very up and

2074
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 13: down right now.

2075
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 1: Offensively, Yeah, he held the ball longer tonight a little bit,

2076
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: and he went down the field a few more times,

2077
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: and he missed a couple shots deep that could have

2078
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: changed the game. And so when he's trying to make

2079
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 1: a play, he wasn't able to make them. And they're

2080
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: just a limited offense now. The Calvin Austin drop that

2081
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: turned into an interception, that's all obviously on Calvin Austin.

2082
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: The game's basically over at that point. Ultimately, they had

2083
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: nine drives shook before you know, those last couple that

2084
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in terms of the interception and the

2085
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: garbage time touchdown. They had four first downs on those

2086
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: nine drives. I mean, it's just it's not at NFL

2087
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: offense and Jalen Warren is easily their offense's best player,

2088
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: but DK Metcff has not gotten it on track at

2089
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: all as a consistent weapon. And you have to give

2090
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: the Chargers defense credit. Man Jesse Minter and this Chargers defense,

2091
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: they've been on a journey this season. It's like it

2092
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: has absolutely been a roller coaster, but you know, getting

2093
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: some of their best players back, especially Khalil Mack and

2094
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: then having an extra pass rusher and a dafe oh wait,

2095
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,560
Speaker 1: absolutely helping Derwin James is back to playing well. And

2096
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, it wasn't even a great Herbert game,

2097
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: but three straight weeks, Nick, the Chargers have essentially dominated

2098
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: like the line, not the line of scrimmage, but dominated

2099
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: play where they doubled up their opponents the last two

2100
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: weeks and almost double up them in yardage and definitely

2101
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: double them up in first downs and again until the

2102
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: garbage time. It was the same tonight. So they've just

2103
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: like been significantly the better team in three straight games

2104
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: against the you know, the Vikings, Titans, and Steelers. They

2105
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: are different. They're not the same old Chargers, considering they

2106
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 1: are a Jim Harbrot team. I don't know if they're

2107
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl, but missed me with the

2108
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 1: same old Chargers. They're just a tougher team. And the

2109
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: fact that They've come out of a little mini slum

2110
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: to get the seven and three is really impressive.

2111
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm glad that you brought up the Harball point,

2112
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 16: because that's what I was going to say, is that

2113
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 16: this team has taken on the identity of its coach.

2114
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 16: We saw it, you know, last year, but it's really

2115
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 16: carrying over week to week. And the cool thing about

2116
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 16: this team that makes makes me frustrated as somebody who's

2117
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 16: picking games every week and consistently getting them wrong no

2118
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 16: matter who's playing, whether it's the Chargers or any other

2119
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 16: team in the NFL. But what frustrates me is the

2120
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 16: fact that they do this in different fashions, which should

2121
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 16: be encouraging two Chargers fans, because you think about the

2122
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 16: Vikings game. They were dominant in that game, offensively dominant,

2123
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 16: Herbert was on fire. Everything went well for them on

2124
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 16: both sides of the ball. The Titans game a little

2125
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 16: close for out for it. They'd get the win and everything,

2126
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 16: but it wasn't the prettiest win. They lose Joe Alton

2127
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 16: that game, so you saw the effect on Herbert.

2128
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Touchdowns. Yeah.

2129
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 16: Fair, But then this game completely different from those last

2130
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 16: two games where they leaned on the run stubbornly, and

2131
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 16: they played a great game defensively. And I think that

2132
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 16: while it makes them difficult to predict how they might

2133
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 16: play from week to weekend opponent by opponent, they can

2134
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 16: win in different ways. That should be really encouraged.

2135
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback, you got a coach, and you

2136
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 1: got a team that's figuring out how to play together.

2137
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: It's going to give him a chance each and every week.

2138
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Whereas Pittsburgh they have a coach, but they're not great situationally,

2139
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: and they made some adjustments defensively. We'll see how that works.

2140
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 1: They are only one game up on the Baltimore Ravens,

2141
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: after that lead was a whole lot bigger four weeks ago.

2142
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: So they fall to five and four. They still got

2143
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: two games left to face the Ravens. Also want to

2144
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 1: just give a shout out of congratulations to Keenan Allen,

2145
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: the all time leader in receptions in Chargers history, passing

2146
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates. We mentioned it, remember shook back in week

2147
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 1: one as this could be a possible milestone that he

2148
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: could reach this season, and after one week we said, wow,

2149
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: maybe he will be able to do it. Hell, he

2150
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 1: did it by week ten, so cool to do it

2151
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: in primetime. An all time great Charger in a big

2152
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: part of this team. They lost Aronde, Gatzt and Junior

2153
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: to an injury at one point in this game. He

2154
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: did not return, so we'll track that during the week.

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Speaker 1: But obviously a great night for the Los Angeles Chargers,

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Speaker 1: great night for us, Shook. We will be back check

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Speaker 1: us out Monday night. We appreciate everyone that's been joining

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Speaker 1: us live on YouTube and it is a really fun

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Speaker 1: game Eagles and Packers, so we'll see everyone. Then hit

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Speaker 1: the music, Babona, Let's go. What are we waiting for?

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Speaker 1: We're home. It's been fun. This was a frisky Week ten.

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Speaker 1: We learned a lot about myself about the MVP conversation

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Speaker 1: about what my love language is. But yes, Shookie and

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Speaker 1: I will be back on YouTube live and check us

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Speaker 1: out for the Monday night recap.

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Speaker 4: See that