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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where

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Speaker 1: we're always playing Rizzy ball.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: The new Coach bumpkin. It lasted extra week. We'll find out.

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Speaker 1: We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal with my friends Steve Weiss and Patrick Claybond, the

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Speaker 1: preview crew.

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Speaker 3: My guys, you.

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Speaker 2: See we get stretched. Are we getting ready for it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're getting our ten thousand steps in this show, Greg.

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Speaker 1: We are, And yeah, it's a beautiful time of the

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Speaker 1: week to spend a little over an hour with my friends.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you wake up, you get the research document the

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Speaker 5: night before we come in here to the preview show,

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Speaker 5: get lathered up. Not starting the day like Darren Rizzy did.

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Speaker 5: We'll have to see if Darren Rizzy starts his game

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Speaker 5: day in a similar fashion that he did in his

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Speaker 5: first win little vomit.

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Speaker 2: I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was the issue, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're in an opposite boll.

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Speaker 3: I believe it could last.

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Speaker 1: I think the new Coach bump you know, could last

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Speaker 1: longer than we They just got a flush last week.

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Speaker 2: There it is.

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Speaker 5: Greg Rolsenthal, a professional at this and yes, we start,

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Speaker 5: guys with our first game going smallest to biggest spreads

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Speaker 5: in the week, as we customarily do, with just how

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Speaker 5: loud things might be. When Jameis Winston makes his appearance

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Speaker 5: in Mercedes Benz Super Dome Cleveland at New Orleans, the

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Speaker 5: New Orleans Saints a one point home favorite. Kenny Albert,

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Vilma and Megan Olivey on the call. It was

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Speaker 5: once the Mercedes Benz usurper Dome greg when he famously

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Speaker 5: led a charge to score a touchdown against the will

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Speaker 5: of Dennis Allen. That was one of the most consequential

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Speaker 5: instances of deliberate insubordination to lead a movement to lead to.

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Speaker 2: The house of Dennis Allen.

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Speaker 5: The Browns, the Brown's coming off the buye the Saints

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Speaker 5: coming off snapping a seven game losing streak, a game

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Speaker 5: we'll probably discuss before next April's draft.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the one game all week actually between

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Speaker 1: two teams that I would say have no chance to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. There's a lot more teams this year

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Speaker 1: that seem like they're out of it, but this is

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Speaker 1: the only game where two of them and yet I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to this one. It's Jamis coming off the

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Speaker 1: bye week. We're seeing if this Saints team can keep

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Speaker 1: it rolling and make it feel like they are a

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Speaker 1: new team again. And defensively, I can kind of buy

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Speaker 1: it that was the side of the ball that played

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Speaker 1: with a different energy, that they had different schemes that

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Speaker 1: they had up front in terms of how they were

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Speaker 1: going to attack the passer. They know Jamis will give

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Speaker 1: them a chance at a couple of plays. So it's

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Speaker 1: a good day for to be honey badger and maybe

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Speaker 1: get a pick.

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Speaker 4: You know, the fact that the Saints would only a

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Speaker 4: point up at the Dome tells you all you need

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Speaker 4: to know. That bump they got last week, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Well, the fact that they're favored at all against another

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Speaker 1: professional football team. Look at their wide receivers, like, look

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Speaker 1: look at what they've been this year, the Browns actually

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Speaker 1: without Shaun Watson. If you take away Watson, I would

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Speaker 1: say like they have more things going for them, more

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Speaker 1: good players, better defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Jamis is gonna go back and eat the w in

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Speaker 4: the white and orange uniform. Okay, I think when you

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Speaker 4: look at this. You mentioned it. First off, they had

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Speaker 4: the byeways. The Browns will clean some things up defensively,

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Speaker 2: The Saints have to score.

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Speaker 4: They're able to manufacture some points against the Falcons, who

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Speaker 4: they know well. But this is when Jamis is gonna

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Speaker 4: push the ball down the field on them. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: take some risk try to get to Jamis James gonna

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Speaker 4: have a big game in the Dome. This is not

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Speaker 4: I just I just don't think the Saints are team

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Speaker 4: They're gonna go down to the five O four and

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Speaker 4: do theres well. Darren Rizzi's second game is the Saints

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Speaker 4: underm head coach. He could become the Saints first interim

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Speaker 4: head coach in franchise history to win his first two games.

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Speaker 4: Those are the stakes after he dropped that big win

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Speaker 3: Yards protected yep.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know how much more MBS can offer,

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Speaker 5: but I'm willing to be surprised because the Browns had

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Speaker 5: those nasty blown coverages in the Chargers games, where if

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Speaker 5: they can avoid that and pressure car it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: This Brown's The rest of their season is going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting for them. They have to make some decisions

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Speaker 1: like in the secondary, Martin Emerson, that sort of guy

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Speaker 1: like Denzel Ward has played great all year. I thought

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Speaker 1: and he's cranked it to be all the way back

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. They just have outstanding players on

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Speaker 1: that defensive side. Ward is, you know, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know who Denzil Ward covers in this game, but when

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Speaker 1: he's firing, he's as good as as anyone. I think

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Speaker 1: they actually might have to show something down the stretch

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Speaker 3: Wow, to blame Andrew Berry, to blame Kevin.

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Speaker 2: That would be absolute nonsense.

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Speaker 4: That would be utter nonsense if they I mean not

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Speaker 4: to say they wouldn't do it, but that would be

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Speaker 4: utter nonsense to pull the plug on Kevin Tefanski, who's

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Speaker 4: a hell of a coach, Andrew Berry, who knows what

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Speaker 4: he's doing. Like you said, it's a talented roster. There's

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Speaker 4: been one position that has taken this thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line. Still kind of stinks they lost Callahan.

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Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills. It was a little bit of a story

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Speaker 1: But if you listen to everything that he said, he said,

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Speaker 1: upset because now he's been benched since then, he's not

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Speaker 1: getting his job back. And this was a guy who

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he could be a quality left

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Speaker 5: tackle for a lot of folks. But we've got to

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Speaker 5: contextualize these trigger terms that the tough football guys really

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Speaker 5: don't like, like like soft was apparently a huge issue,

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Speaker 5: that's that was ruining lives, and now we've got business decision, which,

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Speaker 5: as Greg pointed out, when putting the proper context, it's

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Speaker 5: something that's much easier to understand versus like, oh, I

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Speaker 5: it's his body if he wants to be concerned or

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Speaker 5: if you don't want to run out there, like the

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Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns put half of Baker Mayfield on the field

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Speaker 5: for several weeks in his final season there for I

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Speaker 5: don't know what reason.

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Speaker 1: And so if Baker they put half of Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: And that's and that is where like, yeah, you can't. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: sorry to make it about Watson and I cut you off.

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Speaker 2: No, you're good.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to a better game.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a much better game.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to a game that's going to be across

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Speaker 5: the I always say across the street. It's not even

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Speaker 1: The sidewalk, it's like twenty five feet. I I tell people, like,

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Speaker 5: I want one so bad. I want to shot out

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Speaker 5: on our demo field with a sandwich. If we could

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Speaker 3: Know, over the over the roof, and then yeah, it.

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Speaker 5: Would have to go through the score. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: They wanted to be safer. I mean I think they

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Speaker 2: Lo case, what we're talking about it so far, Saiding.

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Speaker 5: The Cincinnati Bengals, losers of two of their last three,

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Speaker 5: against the Chargers team that's won three in a row,

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Speaker 5: including four or five coming off their buy with their

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Speaker 5: in every game this year. That all being said, there

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Speaker 5: are still the Bengals. I still believe. Can they make

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Speaker 5: this close as they have all year, maybe even win

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Speaker 4: This is one where styles make fights, and I think

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Speaker 4: this is a bad match up for Cincinnati. I really

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Speaker 4: do the number feel small to me because of that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and you know, we're talking about so much

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Speaker 4: of the Bengals offense. The Chargers defense, Yep, they've got

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Speaker 4: thirty one sacks, right, they get after Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack,

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Speaker 4: Twully twee Upolow two, they get after it. And they're

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Speaker 4: good overall defensively. And we know the Bengals don't run

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Speaker 2: To pull off with with this defense, you know.

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Speaker 4: And look, they're second, the Chargers second the NFL turnover differential.

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Speaker 4: They don't turn it over right, and they've got thirteen

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Speaker 4: takeaways and eleven of those are picks. This is a

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Speaker 4: typical Jim Harbaugh coach team that doesn't beat themselves.

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Speaker 2: What do the Bengals do? They beat themselves.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm like this is stylistically this is

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Speaker 4: a bad matchup for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I almost feel bad for the Bengals because they come

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Speaker 1: off that one, that game against the Ravens, and they

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Speaker 1: feel like, oh, are we almost falling out of it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, actually we are a good team.

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Speaker 1: We just keep losing these tight games to great teams,

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Speaker 1: and then here they go on Sunday Night against a team.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it'd be a letdown game for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals because every game is so big for them.

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Speaker 1: But you look at and you think the Chargers could

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Speaker 3: Gonna need everything and everyone.

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Speaker 1: I love having this Chargers team in the national spotlight

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Speaker 5: This would be the best offensive team that the Chargers

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Speaker 5: have played this season that they've only given up a

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Speaker 5: I'm a South Bay resident. I appreciate Justin Herbert's fun

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Speaker 2: But these are the offenses that they played.

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Speaker 5: Will Levis coming back and making a.

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Speaker 4: That's it's just difficult to put the crown on them, right.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think that's why they're

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Speaker 3: They're like a top ten defense, very solid.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna give up points and yards to great offenses

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Speaker 3: And maybe that is all just bad luck.

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Speaker 1: But he even said it, like he regrets how he

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Speaker 1: There's just been these little moments where they have had

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Speaker 1: that's just your personality for that season. I don't think

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Speaker 3: And then you flip the other side.

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Speaker 1: The personality on the other side is a defense that

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Speaker 1: they do have a good offensive line right now, at

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's the bigger mismatches. Justin Herbert, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't turn the ball over. I think they

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Speaker 4: He played last week, was back yet, So I mean

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to the game, CASESE wait to see how

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Speaker 5: it's time for the Game of the Week presented by

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Speaker 5: Draft Games.

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Speaker 2: It's the Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: Bills, who are two point favorites at home against the

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Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs. Josh Allen Gregg without Keon Coleman. Last week,

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Speaker 5: Keon Coleman already out, Amari Cooper questionable in this game.

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Speaker 5: He threw his first two interceptions against zone coverage last week.

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Speaker 5: Now here comes Spags as defense. They're two point favorites

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Speaker 5: to try to beat the unbeaten Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I hate that.

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Speaker 1: As that game was ending in Denver, I was thinking, like,

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Speaker 3: Like this one, Achie, Like it just is like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they've been you know, Rickety and they've got all

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes rips off the Scooby Doo mask and it's

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Speaker 1: just Patrick Mahomes underneath, the greatest football player I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: So I think the way you win this game for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, man, I don't know who I'm going to

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Speaker 1: win a shootout, and I think I actually think they can.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills offense, they would be great to

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Speaker 3: And I do trust Josh.

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Speaker 1: Allen in the red zone a little more than this

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this, this is you know, style

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Speaker 4: great game. I like the Chiefs defense in this one

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Speaker 2: They've got different guys in the state. They roll through.

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Speaker 4: It seems like they roll through like sixteen different dbs

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Speaker 4: situation that can match up well with the tight end

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Speaker 4: I thought it was Remember last week I said, I

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Speaker 3: But this mean you were you were a block field

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but I think this one Kansas City's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's go, let's go get I like the Chiefs in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, It's difficult to see it because the one spot

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Speaker 5: where things have been vulnerable for Kansas City on spags,

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Speaker 5: this side has been tied ends and Dalton K and

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Speaker 2: See how much Dalton knocks they can work it.

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Speaker 5: It's just I'm just wondering about the passing options for

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Speaker 2: Of yards after the catch. But it's tough to do that.

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Speaker 5: It's tough to have YaKB be the basis of an

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to have a very efficient,

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and Dalton Kincaid's availability is really important to me.

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Speaker 1: We know Coleman is not going to be there. That

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Speaker 1: it's a different matchup against this the Chiefs defense than

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Speaker 3: Let's just run.

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Speaker 4: Here's a chief. Get ready to get Charles and men

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Speaker 3: But check o too, they think might be next time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, real quick, can we highlight a player for

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Speaker 2: But he will be a problem.

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Speaker 4: There will be played, there will be positions on the

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Speaker 1: I say, I say all that in my head like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Bills to win this game. It is,

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Speaker 1: but the reason why is because of the Chiefs offense.

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Speaker 1: Like for this Chiefs offense, they have not been able

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 5: It's a step up and again that narrowly a Leoshan

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Speaker 5: And I know, you know, we need to see more

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Speaker 1: been money against the Chiefs in the regular season. As

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Speaker 1: he pointed out, like it doesn't mean anything in the

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Speaker 1: regular seas like what.

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Speaker 3: Does mean anything? Does mean something?

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Speaker 1: You guys are trying it's the matt But it's also

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Speaker 1: like when the Chiefs are beating the Bills regularly in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, that's proof of concept to me. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean as much, but both teams are doing

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Speaker 1: everything possible to win, and the Bills are winning these

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Speaker 1: games in the regular season, that means something. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: running backs have recorded and ninety one rushing yards, genering

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Speaker 1: the fifth fewest rushing yards over expected in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I see that with my eyes. I don't think they're.

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Speaker 1: Getting very good running back play, and they have a

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Speaker 1: very good offensive line, and so maybe they don't take

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Speaker 1: advantage of what the Bills weakness is as much as

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Speaker 1: they normally would because of Kareem Hunt. That was our

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Speaker 3: The crown is yours.

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Speaker 5: We'll leave Buffalo and go to Denver, Colorado. Steed the

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Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons, coming off of being on the wrong side

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Speaker 5: of a nasty loss in New Orleans. They are two

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Speaker 5: and a half point underdogs on the road against the

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Speaker 5: Broncos team that was a properly protected field goal away

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Speaker 5: from giving the Chiefs their first loss of the season.

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Speaker 5: The Falcons win could give the both of these teams

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Speaker 5: the same record. Reg likes to make picks on the record,

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Speaker 5: Vibe Yeah, I feel that's about the moment.

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Speaker 4: But Patrick, this is a this is the kicking game

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Speaker 4: redemption game because young young way Ku Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: that was.

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Speaker 2: That was an issue. I like the number.

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Speaker 4: I liked it. I liked the to the two and

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Speaker 4: a half number for Denver. Here, Atlanta's a good road

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Speaker 4: team though, right they're three and one so far. They're

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Speaker 4: offensive lines good enough to deal with this splitz. But

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Speaker 4: you look at Denver and this Greg I'm coming right down,

478
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Speaker 4: right down your strike zone. Kirko Chains cannot move and

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Speaker 4: Denver has really struggled against quarterbacks who can move right

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks Laburn, Patrick Mahomes. But you

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Speaker 4: look at some of the quarterbacks they've played before. Who

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Speaker 4: of the Kirko Chains mobility scale, which is what from

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Speaker 4: zero tobout point plus zero, and they've they've played really well. Again,

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Speaker 4: this is going to be a challenge. Atlanta's going to

485
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Speaker 4: have to run the football against this defensive front. And

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Speaker 4: we still don't know what the Falcons defense is. Like,

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Speaker 4: they've shown us no identity.

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Speaker 1: The identity is you can't you can't win multiple playoff

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Speaker 1: games with this pass.

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Speaker 3: No, there's no way, like you can maybe make it

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I looking at the Bucks schedule, I actually I actually

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Speaker 1: think no, it's easy. Yeah, they don't play the rest

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Speaker 1: of the way they don't play anyone good. They have

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Speaker 1: like one game against a team that's not one of

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Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL. I don't think this division

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Speaker 1: has decided. I'm glad you pointed out my sort of

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Speaker 1: records theory, which is like, because these two teams, they

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Speaker 1: both they both look like six and five teams to me,

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Speaker 1: they do. Like I I'm glad the Falcons lost that

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Speaker 1: game last week, which they probably didn't deserve too. They

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Speaker 1: dominated that second half and found a way to because

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Speaker 1: because a pass rush this bad where you have ten

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Speaker 1: sacks on the season again, yet your pressure rate is

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Speaker 1: still like is among if not like the lowest in

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Speaker 1: the NFL too, Like they don't do anything well at all,

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Speaker 1: and this Broncos line can protect.

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Speaker 3: Bnix is getting a little better every week.

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Speaker 1: Nick Bonito's out there making plays, Jonathan Cooper getting after.

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Speaker 3: I think they're better up front.

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Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are a legit six and five team,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Falcons are a legit six and five.

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Speaker 1: They're just like a funky team. So that that makes

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Speaker 1: me feel like, let's let's ride Broncos today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I may I may have inceptioned you into picking the.

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Speaker 1: You kind of did six and five.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 5: We saw what Bonnicks because Baltimore really especially in the

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Speaker 5: first half. I know that they got those ten points

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Speaker 5: and then nothing really happened after that. But bon Nicks

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Speaker 5: had a whole lot of time in the pocket and

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Speaker 5: there's been time for him to value what things might

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Speaker 5: be like in a game against the team that cannot

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Speaker 5: get pressure. And all love to Ajterrell and Jesse Bates

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Speaker 5: and god love the folks the Falcon secondary. They're just

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Speaker 5: back there, man, They're just back their run around for dates.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're hanging.

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Speaker 5: They're getting no help, like, just trying to make the plays,

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Speaker 5: uh that are available. And over on the offensive side,

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Speaker 5: Darnell Mooney and Drake London shout out to them. It's

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Speaker 5: the first pair league wide to both have over six

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Speaker 5: hundred receiving yards. You have to deal with Moss and

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Speaker 5: Patrick's or Tan could be a big Kyle Pitts game, but.

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Speaker 2: It's tough. I'm gonna have to this is this is

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Speaker 2: like a believe type situation.

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Speaker 5: Much like the Chargers game. I just got to find

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Speaker 5: out which team is the team and this is a

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Speaker 5: great week for this matchup.

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Speaker 2: To figure it.

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Speaker 4: Out, coming down to the kicking game, coming down to

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Speaker 4: a field goal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I trust Denver.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the case. I got redemption.

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Speaker 1: One note for Denver is that Odric estimate. I don't

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Speaker 1: need to tell you this. I'm sure you've been talking

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Speaker 1: about it on Fantasy Live every day. He took over

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Speaker 1: as the starting running back last week. Javonte Williams. They

548
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Speaker 1: kind of put in that third down like Samaji p

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Speaker 1: Ryan that used to be his old roll roll with

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Speaker 1: the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: And estimate he's got some juice. Yes, he does, nice speed,

552
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Speaker 3: powerful guy.

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Speaker 1: I picked him up on my fantasy uh in my

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Speaker 1: fantasy league, and uh yeah, maybe maybe he has a

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Speaker 1: big game here for.

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Speaker 4: And the Foal Because you don't have downhill linebackers. Their linebackers

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Speaker 4: are chase linebackers. Even though Kaien Nellis is stud I

558
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Speaker 4: mean he can do it money.

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Speaker 3: Nellis leads the team in pressures. He's an off ball linebacker.

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Speaker 4: Off ball linebacker, and he blitzed up to that A

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Speaker 4: and B gap. That's where that's that's.

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Speaker 2: Where they are.

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Speaker 1: I like, I like a heavy blitzing team against Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins and well, I don't know I'm I'm torn. That's

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Speaker 1: a talented Falcons offense. They make a lot of plays.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Crow is getting it done. Don't you say that

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Speaker 1: scale it's like zero to Aaron Rodgers, I guess in

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Speaker 1: terms of mobility.

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Speaker 3: But Kirk Go's outplaying Aaron Rodgers by quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's not. We'll have time, just not saying much.

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Speaker 1: All right, we hit a couple of the best games

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Speaker 1: of the week, but we are not done yet. The

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Speaker 1: best game of the early window on Sunday, really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to, Yes, sir, which one? It's Ravens Steelers. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that after the break back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: It's the game that's gonna have Patrick Clayband's heart fluttering

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Speaker 1: in the early window.

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Speaker 5: Well, now, thanks to our two point conversion, miss my

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Speaker 5: necessary begels, it's not as consequential. It's the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 5: three point favorites at the on the road at the

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers with the over under forty eight eight Eagle

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Speaker 5: Charles Davis Evan Washburn on the call. It's also the

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Speaker 5: Deontay Johnson revenge game, coming back on the other side

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Speaker 5: of the division, playing against his old team. Greg there

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Speaker 5: was a Steelers defense that gave the Commanders all kinds

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Speaker 5: of problems. What kind of issues can they face for

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Speaker 5: right now the best player in the NFL on Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Jacks Well, I think the way to go at the

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Speaker 1: Steelers defense is to run at them, so that it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big test for them too. But I

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Speaker 1: think the thing they did against Jane Daniels that you

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Speaker 1: can't apply to this week is they're so disciplined in

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Speaker 1: how they rushed the passer and that was clearly the plan.

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Speaker 3: Last week. TJ. Watt was not flying up the field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't have as many pressures as he normally would,

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Speaker 1: but they kept him contained. That is tougher to do

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Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson, especially when he's got Derrick Henry and

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Speaker 1: you're having option plays. But if any defense in the

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Speaker 1: NFL can do it, this is the one that will

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Speaker 1: do it because we've seen them do it.

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Speaker 3: Steve like, Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: There's a defense in the NFL that's consistently given Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson more problems than the Steelers and Mike Donalin No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, they're disciplined and they've got

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Speaker 4: the players to play against him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all their guys can run. They've got guys

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Speaker 2: who can do things.

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Speaker 4: I look at the other side of the ball though,

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Speaker 4: I mean Pittsburgh's strength with Russ Cooking is Baltimore's weakness.

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Speaker 4: And my favorite player over the past couple of weeks

611
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Speaker 4: has been George Pickens. He has been absolutely deep ball

612
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Speaker 4: catch and run, breaking tackles. And it is week after

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Speaker 4: week with the Ravens where their secondary is getting tackled,

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Speaker 4: they're missing tackles, they're giving up big plays, and they're

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Speaker 4: giving up intermediate yard.

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Speaker 2: Plays to let the change move.

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Speaker 4: So the way that the Steelers are playing right now,

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Speaker 4: this is kryptonite to what's going on. And paired with

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Speaker 4: that defense, I just don't see necessarily Baltimore winning a

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Speaker 4: shootout in this.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point, Patrick, and I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to frame it to you, Okay, Like I am starting

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Speaker 1: to wonder, like, are the Ravens ever gonna figure it

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Speaker 1: out on defense? And because the great because if they don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't see them as a favorite anymore.

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Speaker 3: So I've just.

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Speaker 1: Been expecting, because of the jersey they wear, they will

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Speaker 1: figure it out.

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Speaker 3: What is your level of concern with this defense.

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Speaker 2: Oh, clearly the level is very high.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, they don't have to play Joe Burrow and Jamar

632
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Speaker 5: Chase again.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But they've looked bad against some place, and they'll have

635
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Speaker 1: they might have to play them again in playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they look bad with bow Nicks throwing to Courtland Sudden.

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Speaker 5: They look bad with Courtland Sudden throwing a bow Nick.

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Speaker 5: It's been bad here in week eleven, which is also

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Speaker 5: a euphemism for the Baltimore Ravens defense in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: four where I have the only thing historically I can

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Speaker 5: go to is the return of Bob Sanders for the

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Speaker 5: old Colts team where they couldn't do anything and all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, Bob Sanders came and fixed it.

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Speaker 2: They go to the super Bowl. Maybe that's the historical precedent.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who the Bob Sanders would be on

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Speaker 5: this Baltimore rage.

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Speaker 3: It was Dean P's they brought him back five weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work though, it's.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's tough, you know, George Pickens, Mike Williams

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Speaker 5: down the sideline, those one on one plays. Baltimore hasn't

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Speaker 5: been able to defend all season. But the hope would

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Speaker 5: be if you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, which you know

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Speaker 5: clearly I am, if if those are low percentage plays,

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Speaker 5: lower percentage for a lot of other quarterbacks other than

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson. If you go to next Gen Stats and

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Speaker 5: you sort deep passing attempts since since twenty sixteen, it's

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson and literally then everybody.

659
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the bingo card, like he's he's the one

660
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: that makes that go.

661
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 5: It's it's not fluky, and we could talk about Russ

662
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: target in the middle of the field.

663
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: He's just so effective outside of the numbers.

664
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 5: Now he has two really talented players, including George Pickens,

665
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: who's just must see TV because you don't know what

666
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: he's gonna do on any given play before he catches

667
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: the ball. After he cashes ball, anything goes wrong, and

668
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 5: it's it's a concerning one. But with the the Baltimore

669
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 5: line playing better and Lamar playing the way he is,

670
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's what you hang your hat on.

671
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: It's being Deontay Johnson. Everyone else has stepped up since

672
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: he's kind on join the Ravens TM.

673
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: He barely plays. All these was fall down on a

674
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: play would have got Yeah, but here here's.

675
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Speaker 3: Speaking of it. Let's let's listen to Mike Tomlin.

676
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: He was actually asked this week about preparing for his

677
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: old player Deonte Johnson, to be.

678
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 6: Honest, which I hadn't thought a lot about it. He's

679
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: not on a lot of their video and so you know,

680
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 6: at this stage of the week, I don't know that

681
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: I've weighed, you know, what he might mean to the matchup.

682
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: They got more significant pieces with larger roles that are

683
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 6: occupying my attention at this part of the week.

684
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: The best he's this year, just the best quote machine.

685
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: He just gives dandy and he says it was just

686
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Speaker 4: like this absolute philosophical Well.

687
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: There was like a hit.

688
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: There was a little smile when the question was first asked,

689
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: because that smile was like I'm going to flame this

690
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: guy in the nicest way possible and say it very calmly.

691
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: Well, what's crazy though, I want to flow back to

692
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: the Ravens Steveh. Yeah, when you look at the players,

693
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: when you look at the roe quandt Smiths, when you

694
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: look at Kyle Hamilton, who's you know, I know he's

695
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: a little nicked up, Like I just do not understand,

696
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, Nomdi Madabik. He's finally starting to come on

697
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: up front and upfront they're fine, like they don't allow

698
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: running yards and they do put pressure on the quarterback.

699
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: But I mean again, maybe is Zach Orr some of

700
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: the stuff they've done schematically, but it is not happen here.

701
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: But we got to communicate, communicate better.

702
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: It's the same players that you've had, So to answer

703
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: your question, I don't know if it's going to get better.

704
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a coaching issue at this point. I mean,

705
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: you can't point to anything else that the coaching staff changes.

706
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: On the defense.

707
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: You have so many of the same players and it's

708
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: just this bad week after week. Kyle Hamilton was seen

709
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: working lightly at practice on Wednesday, which actually is a

710
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: good sign. You know, he has a chance, it sounds like,

711
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: to play in this game. But without him, oh that's trouble.

712
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: And I do think because they stopped the run, and

713
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh obviously wants to run, and they've been a little

714
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: better lately running. Their offensive line has gelleden better. Jalen

715
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Warrens certainly is playing better than he did when he

716
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: was kind of fighting through some stuff early, Najre Harris

717
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: running hard, I think they'll be able to stop the

718
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Steelers run.

719
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: Can someone just just play too deep against.

720
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Speaker 1: You know we this is the mel Kuiper playing like

721
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: mel Kuiper tried to ban to you know, the two

722
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: high safeties. It didn't happen. It's still allowed. But nobody

723
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: does it against Russell Wilson. If ever, there's a team

724
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: to just play back and let Russell Wilson dice you up.

725
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: Let's see if he can do it just throwing short

726
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: over the middle, like dare him to just play back.

727
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams is gonna miss every tackle anyway, so just

728
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: let him like play forty yards back.

729
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: As got Eddie Jackson there to back him up.

730
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm just like, don't don't allow that.

731
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: If not.

732
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Speaker 1: If it's George Pickens making moves in the matrix, that's

733
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: one thing. But if it's Mike Williams like beating you

734
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: one on one like that, just come.

735
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: On, we'll see.

736
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: We'll see what Zach wore and the defense, and maybe

737
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: that's the silver lining. It's a whole lot easier to

738
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: fix play calling in defensive strung sure than it is

739
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: to acquire players after the trade deadline, which is something.

740
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: One last thing on this game.

741
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: If the Steelers win it, they are in control of

742
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: the AFC North in a very real way.

743
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: And I think they can win this game at home.

744
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Look they they split with the Ravens pretty often in

745
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: bad years for the Steelers. Why can't they now? And

746
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: they would be in the mix. Let's say, let's say

747
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs lose in the in the Steelers win, it's

748
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: like a four way race for the number one overall seed.

749
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: But Patrick and I were talking about, look at this.

750
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: Tell them the Steelers schedule week fifteen, Joe at the Eagles,

751
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: Week sixteen, back again at the Ravens week seventeen against

752
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs, Week eighteen, finishing the season against

753
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and the Cincinnati Bengals.

754
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a stretch. This is the first division game.

755
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: Doubt them at their at your peril, Oh, I.

756
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Adopted no less less.

757
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlins says something about me in a Wednesday news

758
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 5: camp ahead of a division game.

759
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: Let's get two.

760
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a lot of his programs, yes, like

761
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: when is Game Day Live on?

762
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: Again? I have to I have to DVR. It's on

763
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: it four am Pacific.

764
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's while you're coaching, coach, so I understand no

765
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: offense taken. Let's go to the Indianapolis Colts, who have

766
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: made a change at the quarterback position. Steve, it is

767
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: not Joe Flacco playing a revenge game. It's Anthony Richardson

768
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 5: making a start on the road at MetLife. The Jets

769
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: of three and a half point favorite. I love Drew Catalan,

770
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: Ticky Barbara, Jason mccordyon, A j Ross on the call.

771
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: They go back to the youngster, Steve.

772
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: I love it.

773
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: It feels like it bullied them into put again. I

774
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: love it. I love it.

775
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 4: Look the perfect timing to do it too, because the

776
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: Jets would have gotten to Joe Flacco.

777
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: They're not gonna get to Anthony Richardson.

778
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: You're gonna get a heavy dose of Jonathan Taylor and

779
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson running the football because of Jets or mishmash.

780
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: She gets to run. They can get after the quarterback

781
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: in certain situations. But this changes things for me. I

782
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: know the Jets are three and a half. The Jets

783
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: have scored more than twenty points in just two of

784
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: their last seven games, six of which were losses. They're

785
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: not scoring the ball offensively, and you know, defensively they're

786
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: in and out because the defense gets putting so many

787
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: bad situations. But I think with Anthony Richardson coming in,

788
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: they're not going to take away superpower. Go ahead and run,

789
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: move right, pocket, Let's go ahead and let's let you

790
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 4: do you Okay, maybe we learned some things watching Joe

791
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: Flacco that we need to do to help you out

792
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: a little bit better.

793
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: And I.

794
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: Have no trust in the Jets right now, absolutely none.

795
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 4: So I think the Colts that three and a half number,

796
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: not half. And I think the Colts, who win this

797
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: went out right.

798
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I think they will too. You know what's that says

799
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: like when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

800
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: And the Jets, well done. The Jets have shown us

801
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: who they are.

802
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: And it's like.

803
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, like the dead animal I saw on the

804
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: on the side of the highway on the way to

805
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: work today, Like that's what they've been. They weren't there,

806
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: like they weren't there last week. They weren't there. They

807
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: did not show up. You can run on them. I

808
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: really do believe there's a chance that they watched that

809
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: Jets film and the like, we should get r back

810
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: in here, because like, we don't need to throw against

811
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: this team.

812
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: This is gonna be perfect.

813
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: This will be a soft landing for him and as

814
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: bad as it's been in Indianapolis. Just based on the

815
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: way Shane Steichen was answering some of those questions, I

816
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: personally believe he wanted to start Anthony Richardson and maybe

817
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: his hands were tied a little bit even earlier this week,

818
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: until until he convinced the powers that be to untie

819
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: his hands and go back to his quarterback.

820
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: Well, well, now that we have the benefit of hindsight

821
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 5: about the decision and perhaps foresight some of us felt

822
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: at the start of the season.

823
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: So Anthony Richardson starts.

824
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: One and two games against the Texans, who we saw

825
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 5: pickoff Jared Golf five Tom's and promptm last time out

826
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: of the Green Bay Packers during the Xavier McKinney pickstreak,

827
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: and the Chicago Bears when that defense was very, very good,

828
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: and then they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers and Joe Flacco

829
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: gets in the game against the Jags, has success against

830
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 5: the Titans, and it's like.

831
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe Flacco the twenty twenty three Joe Flacco's back.

832
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: Well, now that we know, it was probably just the

833
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: schedule playing out the way that the schedule does because

834
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: they have these last two games against the Vikings and

835
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: the Bill. So incomes Anthony Richardson. The place that I'm

836
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 5: not confident about this Colts team is defensively. Yea, we

837
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 5: know Gus Bradley plays all of that zone. Aaron Rodgers

838
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: right now EPA wise against man is negative fifty one.

839
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 5: He's the worst quarterback against man coverage in the NFL.

840
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: That's Aaron Rodgers in the situation.

841
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: Also DeVante Adams and Garrett Wilson. It's hard to figure.

842
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Now, oh man, they'd be cooking right.

843
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 5: Well, now, the reprieve is they get to play a

844
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: team that's going to play most of their coverage snaps

845
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: in the zone. And so if there is a spot

846
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: where Davante has a lot of success, it feels like

847
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: it could be here.

848
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Anthony Richardson. You know we're taping

849
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. I was surprised because normally the quarterback

850
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: move you would have heard about it earlier in the

851
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: week and Stich and said, you know, Joe Flacco is

852
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: our quarterback moving forward Monday and Tuesday, and then they

853
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: flipped it. On Wednesday, Richardson spoke to the media about

854
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: what the last few weeks have been like.

855
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 7: As a competitor, you know, you never want to just

856
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 7: be on the sideline. You always feel like there's an

857
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 7: opportunity for you to go out there and help the team.

858
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 7: But just sitting on the sideline, it just allowed me

859
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 7: just to you know, just look and see the certain

860
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 7: things I could, you know, correct about myself, you know,

861
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: certain things that the team needed help with, you know,

862
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: And I'm just forever grateful for the opportunity. You know,

863
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 7: I'm glad that same feel like I'm the guy again

864
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 7: once once again. So like I said, I'm just forever

865
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 7: grateful and I'm just thankful.

866
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: He said separately that he low key thought it was

867
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: good for him that he was low key grateful for

868
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. You have heard quarterbacks talk

869
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: before about that feels like the worst thing that could

870
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: happen to you, and it almost is a weight lifted

871
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: off your shoulder to just go play football, like you

872
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: know how to. So I know, ever, you know, you

873
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: were upset that they benched him. I did not think

874
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: it was a bad idea to bench him based on

875
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: how he was playing. And I said at the time,

876
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: I promise you, I put it on Twitter like I

877
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: promise you. He will be starting again sooner than later,

878
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: certainly by December. I mean he got way before December.

879
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's okay that players who aren't playing

880
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: well don't play for a couple of weeks. He just

881
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: happens to play quarterback, and now he's going to play again.

882
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised to see a better version

883
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: well at.

884
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: That position again, because you watched him play. He got

885
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: to the point where he was he was mentally swimming upstream.

886
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 4: So this is one sit back watch when you're hearing

887
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 4: the play call come in, how it's supposed to be executed,

888
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 4: whether it works or not. But being able to see

889
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: the oh, okay, I see in this situation where I'm

890
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: not having to process it in the microsecond, but I

891
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: see how it's supposed to unfold, whether it does or not. Again,

892
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: you understand a little bit better, so now we'll see.

893
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people does help some people.

894
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: It does mean Bryce Young is playing freaking great right now,

895
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: He's not great. He's playing really good, much better than

896
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 4: how he looked earlier in the season. So he's the

897
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: one who took a step back. The coaching staff is

898
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: coaching for him a little bit more as well.

899
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: And he thought then Patrick to extend this idea further,

900
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: that maybe bring in tyrod for a couple of weeks.

901
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: Give give Aaron Rodgers this a little mental break. It

902
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: seems like he needs it.

903
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: He's now recycling his old bits on Pat McAfee, like, Hey,

904
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: there's something great in life called hope.

905
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: It's like you did that one two years ago. You

906
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: got to come up with new stuff.

907
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And in fact, everybody, if you want to be

908
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 5: better at something, stop doing it.

909
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: That's the that's.

910
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: The overall advice that we're coming up good on Anthony

911
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: Richardson to pick up his head coach, and everybody say, yeah,

912
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 5: it was a great idea. Look, I'll learned to watch

913
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: on the sideline. Maybe he learned to not be so

914
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: yolo with his body.

915
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: If you gave me he's gotta go this week, I

916
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't ever want to do it.

917
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: But if you said, Greg, don't like your performance lately

918
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: hosting NFL Daily kind of been You've been a little

919
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: bit of a mess. Take two weeks off and come back.

920
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: I bet you'd get a better performance out of him.

921
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, rest rest is good. We never we'd never go

922
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: to the head coach though and talk to make a move.

923
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 2: We never. Do you like that, though, Greg, So, Yeah,

924
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't want you to go anywhere.

925
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. I'm just saying some time he's

926
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: getting a little mentally refreshed. It's not the worst thing ever.

927
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 5: We love rest for everybody, hope everybody listening against proper

928
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: rests and compensation as well. Let's go to a team

929
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 5: that might need some coming off of a disappointing into

930
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: a wind streak. The Los Angeles Rams five point favorites

931
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: in Foxborough against Drake May and the New England Patriots. Adam,

932
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 5: I mean, Mark Sanchez, Christina Pink on the call, Greg,

933
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 5: you get to see Drake May go up against Matthew

934
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 5: Stafford maybe some similarities and the young Gunslinger in the

935
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: Super Bowl champ How do you see the matchup?

936
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that comparison. Obviously, Drake May is getting

937
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: a lot of his value from those scrambles, like his

938
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: ten plus yard scramble plays is now there with the

939
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in the entire NFL for the season right

940
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: off the bat. It's funny going back through that Bears tape,

941
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I thought play for Play might have been his worst

942
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: game of the season, Like he made a couple of

943
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: big plays, but that pass defense seemed to have him scrambling,

944
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: holding the ball for a long time.

945
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: He won't be holding it in.

946
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: This game because he'll have no choice, which I actually

947
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: think is not the worst thing for him. It just

948
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: puts him on Hey, if that first read isn't there,

949
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm into create mode and that's the best. Drake may

950
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: could be a little bit of a dangerous spot for

951
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: the Rams because I do think the Patriots are a

952
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: little more cohesive defensively than they were earlier in the season,

953
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: and so in this Rams offense not really cohesive right now.

954
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: No, look, this is one I know the Rams plus

955
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: five look early start, short week going across the country.

956
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: You talked about the disjoint of play. I mean now,

957
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: I will say this, watching that game, I was over

958
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 4: at the stadium, Anthony Weaver. Some of the coverage looks

959
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: he was given the Rams and tricking him at the

960
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. And you heard Stafford talk about, you know,

961
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: some of the simulated pressures. It was a game plan

962
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: of a lifetime. It was fantastic. But the Patriots are

963
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: physical football team, right, We'll see. I think the Rams

964
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: are going to have to run the ball some We

965
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 4: don't know what the weather's going to be.

966
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 7: Like.

967
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: My big thing is that Rams defensive front is Jared Verse.

968
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: We've talked about it before. He is fantastic, young, fantastic.

969
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: They're gonna be all over Drake may against this offensive line.

970
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: I mean you heard you heard. Why am I blank

971
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: on the head? Coach uh dried Mayo for the Pagequan say, hey,

972
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: this would be great to have the offensive line Paige

973
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: together for the second consecutive game.

974
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: Might not be against the group.

975
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: It's actually no one news in there. So yeah.

976
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: But the Rams, I mean they're looking therefore or five

977
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 4: man front looks were fantastic and they can really really put.

978
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Pressure on the QB.

979
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: The next collection of offensive lineman that they play will

980
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: be the twelfth unique combination of offensive lineman and that

981
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: would put them in the league. They're currently tied with

982
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 5: the Bears, the Browns and the Saints for the most

983
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: combinations and starting offensive line.

984
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: A couple of their starters weren't in the league at

985
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: the start of.

986
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: This No, they got some guys off the street.

987
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: They have they have played a little better.

988
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Although dried Mayo like sometimes he just says things that

989
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: like he said on Wednesday, you know, he trying to

990
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: big up his coach out Van Pelt and he's like, hey, like,

991
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: no one deserves more credit for how Drake You know,

992
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Drake may is playing than Alex Van Pelt And I'm like,

993
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: are you high man?

994
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: Like this is one of the worst offenses in the

995
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: league right now.

996
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Let's not like spend the week patting Alex Van Pelt

997
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: on the back because Drake may is playing pretty well.

998
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: It's mostly just Drake May. I'm not giving their offensive

999
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: scheme any of the credit.

1000
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Avp was the Browns oc last year and he got

1001
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco going.

1002
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: Okay, come on man, Yeah, I'm not seeing it.

1003
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe is who we thought Dave Kanalis was, Greg

1004
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1005
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing I'm not.

1006
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a young quarterback who's making a lot of

1007
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: impressive plays on He's going to be a good player.

1008
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: But like I said, I thought he was maybe maybe

1009
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: his worst game if just play for play was against

1010
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: the Bears, which makes sense.

1011
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 3: It's a good pass defense and everything.

1012
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: That's all.

1013
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: We're watching his scramble late score to Ramondre Stevenson where he.

1014
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Had forty seven seconds.

1015
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: Then in Alex Van Pelt's defense, he did have Hunter

1016
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: Henry open early in that play, drake Man went on

1017
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 5: an adventure and later apologized for not hitting him. But

1018
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 5: going back to Jared Versu and Braden fisk Man, they've

1019
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: generated seventy one pressures as a duo this season. You

1020
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: go back through ten weeks in the past seven seasons,

1021
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: no other rookie duo has done that.

1022
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 3: Wow.

1023
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 5: An incredible draft for the Rams who got a long

1024
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: time without having picks that early. They hit on both

1025
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: of them. But issues in this I mean talk about

1026
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 5: issues in the secondary. That's for games against a different team,

1027
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: that's for games against the Miami Dolphins. It's just tough

1028
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: to imagine them going into Foxborough.

1029
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know their floor is so much higher because

1030
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: of their defense. I do have concerns about their offense

1031
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: and just something's missing. Stafford's not having his best season.

1032
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: The running game is much more inconsistent than you would

1033
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: expect out of the Rams, and New England might get

1034
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger back. They made some changes in their defense

1035
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: where John Jones, Jonathan Jones has been there forever, he's

1036
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: now the guy who is in the life going how

1037
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: we feel about a Pittriot's victory? Oh yeah, you know

1038
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: how they do that. They were still doing that from Belichick,

1039
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: but now that's Jonathan Jones who's doing that. He was

1040
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: playing safety last week and it kind of cleaned things up.

1041
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: They're playing a little better up front, so defensively, I

1042
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: think they'll play well. But man, I don't think this

1043
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Patriots offense is going to get much of that.

1044
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: And get some quick passes off like the Dolphins. We

1045
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: saw the Rams were not tackling great stuff like that.

1046
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: One note Jordan Rodrieg said when she was in the

1047
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: office was, you know, Jonah Jackson came in off ir

1048
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: and they kind of rushed him back into playing center

1049
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: and that was where a lot of the problems happened

1050
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: last week. Communication the line calls pressure. So that's just

1051
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: something to watch that didn't really work out for them

1052
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: last week.

1053
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: All right.

1054
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: We'll go from a new England Patriots team where Greg

1055
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: is concerned about the offense and the offensive coordinator to

1056
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears, who fired Shane Waldron earlier this week.

1057
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 5: They or five and a half point underdogs at home

1058
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: against the Green Bay Packers, coming off of their by

1059
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: Kevin Burkhardt, Tom Brady, Aaron Andrews and Tom Ronaldi on

1060
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 5: the call, Steve, what do you think.

1061
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: The new look Chicago Bears will be?

1062
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 7: Like?

1063
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: Wow? First off, that five and a half numbers too

1064
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: small for me. It'll be aching.

1065
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: I know Thomas Brown well, I mean I actually covered

1066
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 4: him when I worked in Atlanta when he was a

1067
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: running back University of Georgia.

1068
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 3: And this wow.

1069
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who has had experience.

1070
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: Sean mcvaigh thought very highly of me coach running backs

1071
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: with the Rams and tight ends with the Rams was

1072
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: the assistant head coach.

1073
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: And that's where I think is going to get this

1074
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: offense too.

1075
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: I think whether it's it's throwing it or running the

1076
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: football with the running backs and getting the tight ends

1077
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: more involved to get Caleb and tempo. When did this

1078
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: offense actually function well when they played tempo? They sped

1079
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: it up. They know huddled, they got into a rhythm

1080
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: and then it's just all over the place. It worked

1081
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: for a couple of games and then Shane Waldron, Shane

1082
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: Waldron like, get away from it. Get this guy, get

1083
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 4: Cole komet going, let him be your primary target a lot.

1084
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: Let that set things up. The only problem is they're

1085
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: going up against the pack coming off. I mean, they

1086
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: could be playing catch up real quick, and that's not

1087
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: where you want Caleb to be. But I think Thomas

1088
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: Brown will keep the more steady. It's gonna be more

1089
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: of a run gate, a running back tight end centric

1090
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: offense may not be music to DJ Moore, but this

1091
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: could free him up a little bit. I don't expect

1092
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Speaker 4: a radical change, especially this week, because they're facing the pack.

1093
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: Right.

1094
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: You don't get the fired coach bounced with the coordinator, no,

1095
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: because you can say he's Shane Waldron. Shade Waldron's put

1096
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: a lot of tape out there and numbers as an

1097
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and they've all been pretty good, like better

1098
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: than league average to Lee Adrid and what metric I'm

1099
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: saying with Seattle and the Rams in the past, like

1100
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's run offenses that were competent, that were fine.

1101
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: He didn't run him in LA.

1102
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: The consistency is Matt Eberflus. Matt Eberflus has been there

1103
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: for a minute and all those offenses stink. And you

1104
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: can say, oh, he's a defensive coach, it's not his fault.

1105
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: He's saying I meet with Caleb every day. Maybe stop bro,

1106
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: because all you're like, hey, we can't turn the ball over.

1107
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at like, just we're gonna play to

1108
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: the defense. Caleb hasn't thrown an interception for three straight games.

1109
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: How's that going for you? He doesn't make a play,

1110
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't make a decision. He just sits back there

1111
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: and waits. The pass rush for the Patriots wasn't even

1112
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: that good in that game. There were moments, certainly in

1113
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: the second half as it got worse and worse, where

1114
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: they were dominating. But in the first half of that game,

1115
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: a lot of it's just him standing there and he's good,

1116
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: and then he's looking over. Okay, my primary read is

1117
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: not there. Oh, who's how about my secondary read? Oh,

1118
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: there's Dj Moore just loafing out there, just kind of

1119
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: running around. There's Keenan Allen looking a little washed, like

1120
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of backups on the offensive line.

1121
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: One.

1122
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know if a coordinator

1123
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: change can fix it. But to me, eber Flus is

1124
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: the consistent of it. That's the original sin they should have.

1125
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: They should have, they should have changed it before this

1126
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: season started.

1127
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: With not a person in a league who won't tell

1128
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: you otherwise.

1129
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: Sorry for that rant.

1130
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: No, it's nice right on, nothing to apologize for.

1131
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 5: They do get Cole comment because he had he had

1132
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: one target against the Commanders, no targets against Arizona.

1133
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: I guess Shane Waldron had.

1134
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: Gotten Kaylob's here and he's like, hey, load up, load

1135
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 5: up eighty five so I can try to keep my job.

1136
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 5: He got four targets, caught two of them. Apparently that

1137
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily enough. And over on the other side, it's

1138
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: just this defense still a good defense, but they've just

1139
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: had to deal with their offense doing next to nothing

1140
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 5: for several weeks. And here comes a healthier Jordan Love

1141
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: with a chance to come back after the bye in

1142
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: a Packers team in a good division. Things are all

1143
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 5: good in one place and they're all bad in another.

1144
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 5: It feels like unless Chicago can really pull the right

1145
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 5: off a miracle, it's going to continue to stay that way.

1146
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm banging on Matt Eberflys, I mean, and you can

1147
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: say that his defense, like, they're still a good defense,

1148
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: thirtieth in the NFL in DVOA in terms of their

1149
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: rush defense.

1150
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: Which is crazy. They led the NFL on rush defense life.

1151
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: So you know what's going to happen on Sunday.

1152
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs with those duo runs and that well coordinated

1153
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Packers offensive line, they're not happy. They kind of got

1154
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: they got their stuffed into the locker by the lines

1155
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: the last time they played, and now they're coming off

1156
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: a week off.

1157
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: They need this win.

1158
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: They're just gonna run straight through this Bears team. And

1159
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm with you, well over five and a half, let's

1160
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: take another break. We're gonna come back. We're going to

1161
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: talk about one of the weirdest seven and two teams

1162
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: of my life.

1163
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: Back on NFL Daily.

1164
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if during the commercial break, people are bringing

1165
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: up the NFL dot com standings and thinking like, who

1166
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: is the weirdest seven and two team of our lifetime?

1167
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: Who do you think it is?

1168
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, we have some options here, okay, and

1169
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 5: the lifetime consider we want to have to weirdess, they said.

1170
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: There have been some things that have happened for the

1171
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four Minnesota Vikings, who were a six point

1172
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: favorite on the road against Will Levis and the Tennessee Titans.

1173
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 5: Greg spiro DDAs, Adam Archoletta and Adida Kikwalla on the call.

1174
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: The over under a firm solid thirty nine and a half.

1175
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: Points, as Tennessee did score in their limited opportunities against

1176
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: the Chargers Sam Darnold coming off a three interception game.

1177
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: Could this be closer than the experts think at six?

1178
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1179
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: With the Titans at home, I thought Will Levis had

1180
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: his best game of the season. That's a low bar,

1181
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: but he played fine. I think when he threw the

1182
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: ball it went where he wanted it to throw. He

1183
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: had a couple of nice plays. They pushed the ball

1184
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: down the field a couple times. They thought their defense

1185
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: was gonna be carrying them this year, and that just

1186
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: hasn't happened because they give up a lot of yards

1187
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: through the air. And that's why I don't really think

1188
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: they have much of a chance to win this game,

1189
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: because with Hockinson back.

1190
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: This offense is just so varied.

1191
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: They're getting a lot of good production that the Vikings

1192
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: are out of Josh Oliver. And yeah, Donald fritzed out

1193
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: a couple of times, as as he's known to do,

1194
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: but they they're moving the ball like on a play

1195
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: to play basis. I don't think it was a terrible

1196
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: game for Donald outside those interceptions. And man, if you

1197
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: have two tight ends both producing. Josh Oliver, like I said,

1198
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: has had a lot of big catches, yeah, and you

1199
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: have Addison Naylor's like, this is a dynamic passing attack

1200
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: and this is one of the worst pass defenses in

1201
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: the NFL by the numbers of the Titans.

1202
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: So it's a pretty big missman.

1203
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: And they can't score. I mean, this is a team

1204
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 4: where Brian Florest can warm them up. I mean, they've

1205
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: got just so many guys. Hopefully we get another Cam

1206
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 4: buying them ray Gun touchdown televisions.

1207
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: Well, he mixes it up, he changes it time.

1208
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: That one went MiG so he's not he's not going

1209
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: to duplicate it.

1210
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: He did the parent trap. I mean, Cam buying him

1211
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: is sneaky star of the season.

1212
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, man, that was so good because Ray

1213
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: Guns is retired. Was a sad day in the break

1214
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 4: dancing world. I don't know if look this this is

1215
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: on the number six is fine. I mean Tennessee, you know,

1216
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 4: both coast countin horseshoes. They're a for efforting in it

1217
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: right now. I mean, I look on they're not tanking it.

1218
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: But the Vikings understand what's happened. Detroit is starting to

1219
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: pull away. They see green Bay coming off the by.

1220
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: They know what they'll tighten. U Kevin O'Connell, get them

1221
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: right right.

1222
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: The Titans offense has allowed a league high forty three

1223
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: percent pressure rate this season, including fifty three point six

1224
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: against the Blitz.

1225
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: That's also a league high.

1226
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: So a team that gives up more pressure than any

1227
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: against the Blitz with Will Levis at quarterback and Brian

1228
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: Flores coordinating the other team seems like trouble. And the

1229
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: Vikings are getting a little healthier on defense lately too.

1230
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: They had Blake Cashman returned last week and really helped them.

1231
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, in that metric, it's number eight against number thirty two,

1232
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 5: So congratulations to the Titans offensive line. On the bright side,

1233
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 5: since Nuke got traded, Calvin Ridley is seen as target

1234
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: rate increase from twenty point three percent to thirty two

1235
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: point three percent. You had those two touchdowns where you

1236
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 5: go back a few weeks ago and he had a

1237
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: prefer they lace tired about not being involved in the offense.

1238
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 5: It turns out swearing it is good and it gives

1239
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: you opportunities.

1240
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: He played well. It's just which Titans team are we

1241
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: gonna get?

1242
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 5: Are we gonna get the defense that fantasy wise only

1243
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 5: allowed one top ten quarterback in the first five weeks

1244
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 5: to three out of the last four weeks for Tennessee

1245
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 5: where it has not been that good.

1246
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: And it's such an advantage for these NFC North teams

1247
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: to play the AFC South out of division this year

1248
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: because we look at the Vikings last couple of weeks.

1249
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Those are a couple of ugly wins. That Colts win

1250
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: that was ugly, Jaguars win that's ugly, but they all count.

1251
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: And if you look at the Vikings schedule, they just

1252
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: got to keep winning these types of games. They're gonna

1253
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: get to eleven wins without even beating other good teams.

1254
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: And if you can just get some of those wins,

1255
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean they get to twelve to thirteen, which is

1256
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: really crazy if you think about it.

1257
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: I mean they might have to though when you look

1258
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: at some of the other divisions. Now, okay, there could

1259
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 4: be a waldcard coming out of the NFC East. We

1260
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily see that a couple of weeks ago. Right,

1261
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: It could either you know, Philly or Washington. There could

1262
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: be a wild card coming out of the nc West.

1263
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Like it's you know, it's.

1264
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: Possible, but I I know it's early, and I mean

1265
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: they're gonna get wrong.

1266
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: It does feel like three teams in the North get

1267
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: in and two teams in the East your playoffs.

1268
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: They've got to play each other. I mean there's gonna

1269
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: be some campibalism in there too. That's why Minnesota has

1270
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: got to show up. Now is not the time to

1271
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: have a clunker.

1272
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 5: Speaking of the NFC West, Steve, let's get to Seattle

1273
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 5: Seahawks on the road at the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

1274
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 5: who survived a bad Jake Moody kicking game with a

1275
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 5: Jake Moody game winner six and a half point favorites

1276
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 5: against the Seahawks, who have lost, is that five of

1277
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: their last six games beat the Falcons. The only thing

1278
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 5: keeping them from a six game losing streak, Greg, Can

1279
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: they get back in this hunt in this tight division

1280
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 5: with a win on the road in Santa Clair.

1281
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1282
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: What a tough week for them to come off the

1283
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: by a game they really need to have to play

1284
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: in Santa Clara. This has been the matchup in the

1285
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: Gino Smith era, and even before that, the Seahawks just

1286
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: could never figure out under Pete Carroll.

1287
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: In that first matchup.

1288
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: We were in London at the time, so we did

1289
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: not watch it live Steve Weisch, but Seattle San Francisco

1290
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: that Thursday night was so similar to all the other

1291
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: Seattle it just felt like a redo where they're not

1292
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: tough enough and they've made changes. They get rid of

1293
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Tyroll Dotson, their starting linebacker. They're green dot player who's

1294
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: played almost every snap this year is suddenly not even

1295
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: on the team anymore. They're going to change up how

1296
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: they do things. So I am curious kind of how

1297
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: they come out of their by and what changes, because

1298
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: this is why you hired Mike McDonald. He was supposed

1299
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: to be the Shanahan Tree stopper. He did a good job.

1300
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I thought against the Rams before the bye that was

1301
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: maybe their most encouraging defensive game almost of the whole season.

1302
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: They end up losing it, but they played well enough

1303
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: to win on defense. It's a tough match, but they

1304
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: always look like a team that's just not as physical

1305
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: as the forty nine ers, and they happen to catch

1306
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: them when Christian McCaffrey is back in the mix.

1307
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the six and a half number is big.

1308
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: I think it's a tighter game just because it is

1309
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: what it is and San Francisco getting McCaffrey back, I

1310
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: know it was a first game last week gets a tough,

1311
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: you know, Buccaneers team.

1312
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: They still they're still just not there yet.

1313
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: Like I think in two weeks from now, San Francisco

1314
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 4: can really start rolling offensively.

1315
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: I think Seattle understands like this is it like they've

1316
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: got a man up. They've got to show up or

1317
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: else it's going.

1318
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: To get sideways real quick with the rest of the division,

1319
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: especially Arizona playing the way it is playing as well.

1320
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: So Arizona has raised the stakes for everybody in the

1321
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 4: NFC West. I think Seattle will come out and play

1322
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: a pretty good game. They're not going to win, but

1323
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: I think the six and a half number might be big.

1324
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's an opportunity where h Mike McDonald optimistic

1325
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: about DK Metcalfs return.

1326
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: The Seahawks have needed him back.

1327
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 5: The forty nine Ers traditionally do all they can to

1328
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: bother DK, trying to get in his head, but the

1329
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 5: most impactful aspect of that is the way he's covered

1330
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 5: uh and they have done a good job with DK

1331
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 5: in the past.

1332
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: The Seahawks offense has seen some changes.

1333
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 5: We got more prominent Jackson Smith and Jigma during h

1334
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: DK's points time out, and so perhaps that's an opportunity

1335
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: for some positivity there and the by giving them a

1336
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: chance to to come back and do things differently defensive

1337
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 5: than the first time they had this matchup. It's but

1338
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's almost a healthy forty nine

1339
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 5: Ers team. Ricky Piersoll coming in on the way up.

1340
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's a great call of Patrick.

1341
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: Here they are again, Greg, as he pointed out, forty

1342
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 5: nine Ers after the buy going on a run hole

1343
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: he had dumb dumb.

1344
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: Every year, right, Like, yeah, Jennings really played the X

1345
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: last week that you know. Instead it like they had

1346
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: debo in a little bit of a different role, and

1347
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings maybe is the guy who's going to get

1348
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot of receptions and targets down the stretch. He's

1349
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: someone I think could have a big close to the

1350
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: season now that he's healthier and they rework their offense,

1351
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: and McCaffrey really helps so much in the passing game.

1352
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: It's obvious he's a good runner, but he's one of

1353
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the best pass protecting running backs I've ever seen, and

1354
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: he's so good as a receiver that it really helps

1355
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: unlock I think everyone else. So that it's gonna be

1356
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: tough for Seattle. They just have to avoid on offense

1357
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: negative plays on first and second down. I couldn't believe

1358
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: this stat that Ben Solak from ESPN sent out the Steelers.

1359
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Seahawks right now on third down faced

1360
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: the longest average distance of any NFL team since nineteen.

1361
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Eighty No way, no way.

1362
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And it's because of these negative runs.

1363
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: It's because of these sacks. It's partly because there's such

1364
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: a inexplosive offense there that they don't even get to

1365
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: third down when things go well, like they're just hitting

1366
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: big plays, but when they do I'm shocked they're even

1367
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL this year. Like, wow, they're

1368
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: worse than the Panther.

1369
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think a team like that.

1370
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: They're the worst since nineteen eighty and that's when ESPN

1371
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: Stats and Info started keeping track, So for all we know.

1372
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: They're the worst one ever.

1373
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Well, they also have two thirty yard losses.

1374
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: In there, right, But so what it's like, that's that's

1375
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: still just a couple of plays, Like in one of

1376
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: those one of those losses, they actually got it back

1377
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: to third and nine. I know what you're talking about.

1378
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: They keep having those like the ball goes over Gino's

1379
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: head and stuff.

1380
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: But you see it if they memory poll by you, Greg.

1381
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, very The Seahawks games they stick

1382
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: in my head, man, the like the ken Walker negative

1383
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: six runs and the sacks and.

1384
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 4: But still, I mean, I mean, just to I would

1385
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 4: think a team like Jacksonville, it has all these freaking

1386
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 4: holding penalties or something like that on situations like that,

1387
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 4: would be one of those teams.

1388
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: This is that's a mind blowing.

1389
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: Number if they come out and they lose a close game.

1390
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: But it looks like two pretty even teams that'll actually

1391
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: show me something that they're a little different, because I

1392
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's the fan in me coming out, but I

1393
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: I worry for them in this spot. So show me something, Mike.

1394
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: That's a good, that's a good. If not a victory,

1395
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: get a moral.

1396
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: Victory, I'll take it.

1397
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not I'm not a real fan that

1398
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: because I would take a moral victory.

1399
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 5: Let's go to a team that hasn't had any victories

1400
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 5: moral or otherwise. The Dallas Cowboys playing host to the

1401
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 5: Houston Texans, coming off of that heartbreaker to the Lions.

1402
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: Seven and a half point favorites, and it's Monday Night football.

1403
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters, So we won't have

1404
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: to worry about our stellar neighbor, that bright object ninety

1405
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 5: three million miles away being an issue A touchdown away.

1406
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: Steve So, I guess there's that going for him. Can

1407
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: they beat the Texans?

1408
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: No? No, And that's seven and a half numbers plenty good.

1409
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean, Houston just they know now where they have

1410
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: to be. They have got to start winning to ball games.

1411
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the point. If they're going to

1412
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: be a player in the AFC, they've got to start

1413
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: playing well. Defensively, they've been fine and that's where they're

1414
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna win this game. I mean, the

1415
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: way their insire linebackers played, They're gonna get pressure on

1416
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 4: Connor Orr or Trey Lance or whomever the Cowboys trot

1417
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 4: out there.

1418
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1419
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 4: Look, offensively, they still gonna have their issues. We did

1420
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: see Dallas show up a little bit, you know, on

1421
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: defense last week. But Houston, their defense, I think is

1422
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: really gonna have to turn a corner. Still don't know

1423
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: if Will Anderson's gonna be back, but again, the way

1424
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 4: this guy's in a secondary and inside linebackers play, I

1425
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: think that's what's gonna get them over the hump and

1426
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna beat that points one.

1427
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, show me something with your run blocking, with your

1428
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: their early down runs, they've become very predictable Houston. A

1429
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of first second down runs and then they're in

1430
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: a third and eight, similar to what Seattle's been going through.

1431
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1432
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: I thought that Cowboys defense in the first half of

1433
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles game played as well as I've seen them

1434
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: play in a long time. Funny how when you insert

1435
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players I've ever seen into

1436
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: the lineup that that they get a lot better. But

1437
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: they really did look good, Like it took the Eagles

1438
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: got like seven first half possessions to get that second touchdown,

1439
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: and they had you know, they were playing hard and

1440
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: then then the roof fell in a little bit.

1441
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 3: But Overshowing's playing great.

1442
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's gonna be healthy enough to play in

1443
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: this game and they might get Deron Bland back for

1444
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: this game on Monday night. So defensively, I actually think

1445
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: they could ugly it up Collins this game. That's a

1446
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: huge one that that changes the offense. Our friend Seth Payne,

1447
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: who is on the show, has pointed out over and

1448
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: over like like, I know the offensive line is bad,

1449
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: but if you put Nico Collins in, the offensive line

1450
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: will look better, you know, because c J.

1451
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: Stadd will just be getting the ball to his guy,

1452
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: Nico Collins.

1453
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know who leads the Houston Texans and the

1454
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 5: receiving yards this season despite not having played since Week.

1455
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: Five, it's still Nico Collins.

1456
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: And I think the other as we saw John Metchi

1457
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: again all congratulations, great coming back from having his breakout

1458
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 5: game getting the end zone for the first time on

1459
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 5: Sunday Night football.

1460
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: A lot to look forward to there.

1461
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 5: I just I'm gonna need forty five passing yards in

1462
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 5: the game for the past for the Dallas Cowboys.

1463
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: And Cooper Rush is starting again.

1464
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we are.

1465
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: But they've told us what they think of Trey Lance then,

1466
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: but I mean Trey Lance came in the game, they

1467
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 4: got some positive yards.

1468
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 5: Then Cooper Rush came back in and immediately fumbles. He

1469
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 5: goes to turnover back to the Philadelphia Eagles. Everything's a

1470
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 5: mess there. So seven and a half feels feel solid

1471
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 5: to me.

1472
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: Okay, should we do our survivor pick real quick?

1473
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: Before we do it?

1474
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 4: Is this you know? Now last year Bobby Slowick was

1475
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 4: the whiz kid, and yeah, we're questioning what you just

1476
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 4: talked about, the early predictable rundowns, Like, is he really

1477
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 4: that that craven O sass?

1478
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: You know, this is the OC pick pick on the OC.

1479
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: Show that happens.

1480
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: I believe we give too much credit and I do

1481
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: it as much as anyone, So I'm putting myself in

1482
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: this like we give too much credit and too much

1483
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: blame to the coordinators.

1484
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: It's just sort of the move we always do.

1485
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: If you have a good year, coordinators go get hired

1486
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: and interview around and I don't know, but there's a

1487
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: lot of variants, a lot of luck to it.

1488
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, Slowick hasn't been great despite that. I mean

1489
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: last week we went against the Cowboys with the Eagles.

1490
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's just keep it rolling.

1491
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: I rolling.

1492
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 5: I do not want to hear about Cooper Rush's five

1493
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 5: and one stretch in twenty twenty one ever again.

1494
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: I will gladly Greg.

1495
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Okay sign on to make this our survivoral Eric behind

1496
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: the glass, Eric Roberts doing a great job, did go

1497
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: back and track it. We've hit all of our Survivor

1498
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: picks after we started off bad, Patrick miss one, then

1499
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: I missed one week two, and we decided to restart

1500
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: as a team in week three.

1501
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: We've hit them all and the Lions actually have not

1502
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: been used. And they play the Jaguars this week.

1503
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: They got to save it. We'll save them.

1504
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: But I think let's save them. I think just fading

1505
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is a good move. Let's let's go Texans.

1506
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 5: If we want to finish this thing out, Yes, let's

1507
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 5: get going to keep the timeouts in the bag.

1508
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 3: And Okay, see how things going, let's get Let's go Texans.

1509
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to our next game.

1510
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 5: The Miami Dolphins, coming off of a win on the

1511
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 5: West Coast, are back at home as the Las Vegas

1512
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 5: Raiders off of the bye seven and a half point

1513
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 5: dogs forty for the over under Tom McCarthy, J Feeley,

1514
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 5: Ross Tucker, and our friend Tiffany Blackman on the call.

1515
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 5: Greg Miami showed us a little something, especially defensively against

1516
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Rams.

1517
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: How are they gonna do against the Raiders off the ball?

1518
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: I think they'll do well.

1519
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see if Anthony Weaver in this

1520
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: defense is starting to build something, you know, Yeah.

1521
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: Because they've they've not been great most of the season.

1522
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: No, but that was a fantastic performance.

1523
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes a new defensive coordinator takes a little while for

1524
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: it to get going. The schedules tourney in their favor

1525
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: now coming up, including this matchup. Gardner Minshew is starting

1526
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. There was some question. There actually was

1527
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: even some light reporting that it was going to be

1528
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, and I think they lost their stomach for it.

1529
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm still questioning it in general.

1530
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

1531
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: This Raiders team, Scott Turner's first game as offensive coordinator.

1532
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: They have some of the worst rushing stats of any

1533
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: team this century. So he'll try to turn that running

1534
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: game around some historical you know, yeah, you dropped like

1535
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: in my lifetime twice.

1536
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, ever seen once and now in this century since

1537
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 4: nine eighty made it appearance, this was yeah, I mean.

1538
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's epa per rush. They have the

1539
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: worst number since since two thousand. They're the Raiders.

1540
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, and just know Miami's offense is

1541
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 4: just getting ready to hit. You know, they're they're trying

1542
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: to help you. So, I mean they're trying. They're they're

1543
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: using their running backs a lot. I mean, you're not

1544
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: seeing a guy with a hot hand kind of stick

1545
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 4: with the ball. They're rolling a chn and most shirt

1546
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: and right twenty five they're rolling them through instead of

1547
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: I just think they're getting ready. You know, their offensive

1548
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 4: line there there's a big concern in the right tackle

1549
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 4: with Austin Jackson going on. Ir they are really they know,

1550
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 4: there's some certain things we have to do, and the

1551
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 4: one is get the ball out quickly. But in this game,

1552
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 4: right here, a seven and a half is plenty. I mean,

1553
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders are just right now. They're a mess, but

1554
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 4: I think Miami is this win right here, I think

1555
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 4: made them feel pretty good about their talent. We know,

1556
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 4: if they can play up to their talent, very very

1557
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 4: dangerous football team. It made me feel good about their

1558
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: talent because it's tough.

1559
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 5: I was trying to go back and remember a game

1560
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 5: where we saw to a tongue of Aoloa under pressure

1561
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 5: as he was like that on the road and the

1562
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 5: Dolphins still winning. Nonetheless, a lot of that was the defense,

1563
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 5: a lot of it was Jason Sanders and ain't that

1564
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 5: Colletch kick late in the game. But despite all the

1565
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: pressure that, they still look serviceable offense, and they made

1566
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 5: plays and they had big plays a couple of them

1567
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 5: as well. Where you know, this this Raiders team, I

1568
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 5: don't know what changes on the buy.

1569
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Max Crosby gets some time off perhaps, Yeah,

1570
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: that could help that that helps.

1571
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers helped them when he came back into the lineup,

1572
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: that he really made a big difference for them. Man,

1573
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: this Raiders team, it's sad they are the least interesting

1574
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. I was thinking about this and

1575
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: for a race. Even when the Raiders are bad, I

1576
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: always thought they were kind of interesting. Antonio Pierce is interesting,

1577
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: like as of just a personality. But I would actually say,

1578
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: like if I could, like they they are the lead,

1579
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: They're the most under the radar, Like I just don't

1580
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: really want to watch them team just about in the NFL.

1581
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: You could throw the Titans in there, I guess, but

1582
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: like for a Raiders team to be that team, that's sad.

1583
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, Max Crosby, you know, you love

1584
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 4: because he's he's one of the you know, the better

1585
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 4: best I'll say, one of the best defensive players in

1586
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: the NFL. But he's like Nanda Austin waet Nondi had

1587
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: all those great years with the Raiders and never played

1588
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: on a team with a winning record. And that's the

1589
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: direction that Max Crosby's head in, you know, with his career.

1590
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: Salute to him, he's take he's gonna handsomely compensated. He's

1591
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 4: mister Las Vegas. He's going nowhere, you know, Salute to

1592
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 4: him for not saying, get me out of here. But man,

1593
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 4: I just don't know, even looking at future years, if

1594
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: they get a quarterback, you know, is ap going to

1595
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 4: be around like this. This team still has a lot

1596
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 4: of turnover to get some competitive players on that roster.

1597
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a big game for the Every game

1598
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: is a big game for the Dolphins. At this point,

1599
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: six losses, you can get back in the AFC playoff picture.

1600
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: It's a big for our Thanksgiving Night podcasts, which I

1601
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: think I'm planning to do this year because that doesn't

1602
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: that schedule doesn't look great. But Dolphins, if they're coming

1603
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: in on a three game winning streak against the Packers,

1604
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: that's a good nightcap for the Thanksgiving slate. So I

1605
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: want them to get to that game on a three

1606
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: game winning streak, and you gotta win this one the

1607
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: second game of that streak to make.

1608
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 4: It happens the best one since the century.

1609
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 5: Patrick, I'll hop on to that because the middle game

1610
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving is gonna need to pick me up because

1611
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna get the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, and potentially Cooper

1612
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 5: Rush again on that one. But speaking of Thanksgiving, let's

1613
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 5: wrap today up with that. Kevin Harland, Trent Green and

1614
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 5: the crew on the call for Mac Jones and the

1615
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 5: Jacksonville Jaguars on the road against the Detroit Lions, where

1616
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: they are thirteen point favorite Steve with an over under

1617
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 5: a forty seven A Jared Goff get right game after

1618
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 5: five picks in Houston.

1619
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, yeah, Jered Goff get right game.

1620
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 4: Look, this is one where Detroit could very easily kind

1621
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 4: of sleepwalk a little bit, and that thirteen number might

1622
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: be big. I mean, they're not gonna lose this game,

1623
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 4: you know, even if Jerry Goff throws those types of interceptions,

1624
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: because Jacksonville just can't I mean, they can't do enough

1625
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 4: consistently right on both sides of the ball offensively and

1626
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 4: defensively to get past what Detroit offers, especially if Detroit

1627
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 4: runs the ball.

1628
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Lions check that box.

1629
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: I think they're in a perfect spot to cover the

1630
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: thirteen and maybe make it thirty because they're so well

1631
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: coached and I think are so focused and hungry that

1632
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: it's like they're coming off a loss, you know. I

1633
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: say great teams respond well to a loss. I think

1634
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: they'll feel like we did not play our best last week.

1635
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: We can't let that happen again. We're gonna be ready

1636
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: to go in front of our home crowd and we're

1637
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: playing Mac Jones with one of the best secondaries in

1638
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: the league. It's amazing how these two teams I'm thinking

1639
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: out them together and they could be in the NFC Championship,

1640
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles in the Lions. What was the problem last

1641
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: year for both these teams their defensive backfields? What did

1642
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: their front offices attack, attack, attack all off season in personnel,

1643
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: defensive backfield, secondary, And it's the secondary that makes the

1644
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: Lions special. I mean, Mac Jones isn't going to get

1645
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: anything done against this team. It's just no way, right.

1646
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Travis etm But they're a good run

1647
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: defense too, like because one of the reasons is they

1648
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: they're so good in the back end is they don't

1649
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: they don't send extra guys. Even without Hutchinson, you get

1650
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: Zidaria Smith playing in this game, I'm going forty one

1651
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: to seven, Like, forget this game.

1652
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

1653
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 5: Let's go all right, that's a significant forty one to seven.

1654
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: H even not even Garbagetan points. When did they get

1655
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 5: the seven? That could be the biggest thing.

1656
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Actually get it early. It's seven to seven, and then

1657
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: the Lions take that person.

1658
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: This might be the biggest differential in this century.

1659
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: That might be the biggest number we've seen all year.

1660
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for We're mid those.

1661
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: Let's get to it.

1662
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: There was another big one last time. It's time to

1663
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: start having big numbers. It's it's there's a lot of

1664
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: dead teams. One new news item in this game, Doug

1665
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: Peterson said he was optimistic Trevor Lawrence will return after

1666
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: the bye, which is interesting because there was some reporting,

1667
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: I believe from our network that he could be out

1668
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: for the season. When that happens, just having worked in

1669
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: the business, you do wonder, like where is the information

1670
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: coming from? Like Dak Prescott, for instance, to use a

1671
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: different example, spoke with CBS Tracy Wolfson over the weekend.

1672
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: She was like he and he said, I was a

1673
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: little surprised. I wasn't put on IR yet and it

1674
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: was like going back and forth of like is he

1675
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: out for the season?

1676
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 7: Is he not?

1677
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: And sometimes there's you know, different agendas going on.

1678
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: So you do wonder what Doug puts that out publicly

1679
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: that he's optimistic Trevor Lawrence is coming back, but we

1680
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: heard from another report that Trevor Lawrence might be out

1681
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: for the season, and who's mate. I'm just curious just

1682
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: something to watch. I don't know, you know what I'm get, yeah,

1683
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: and I know what you're getting. I remember it's like

1684
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: maybe the agent or maybe that some part of the

1685
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: team thinks it'd be better for Trevor long term to

1686
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: just start that process now, and if they get a

1687
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: higher draft pick, so be it. And Doug Peterson wants

1688
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: to win games. I don't know, like you know, all

1689
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: of that happens, right I don't know if it's happening here,

1690
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: but it just makes you think about it.

1691
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, ultimately, I do remember Ian quote tweeting Jake

1692
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 5: Rudin who said that he's hearing that Surgery was gonna

1693
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: have surgery, and Ian said, we you know that's we

1694
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: don't know, yeah, exploring all options.

1695
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: They're considering all the options.

1696
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 5: I will say, like, if Trevor Lawrence needs surgery, if

1697
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to have surgery anyway, then go ahead

1698
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 5: and have it now. We don't know what the changes

1699
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 5: are going to be in Jacksonville. Why not give him

1700
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 5: an off season where he's with the team and not

1701
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 5: recovering from surgery.

1702
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 4: Right here, here's another thing with that, the Jacks learned

1703
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: this to play portals. If he was unable or if

1704
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 4: he was on the roster by a certain date bonuses

1705
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 4: kicked in. He held off wrisk surgery until after the

1706
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 4: season where they could not cut him injured he was

1707
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: on the roster.

1708
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: Not a concern for Trevor Lawrence, but also a fascinating

1709
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: thing that can happen with the player because as.

1710
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 5: I was thinking, like, because it's always teams want to

1711
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 5: have the player have the surgery on their own time.

1712
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they want to play there.

1713
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: We prefer not necessarily they want to play role to

1714
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: hobble around on vacation, but just to play when you

1715
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 5: could play and then have the surgery when you can't play.

1716
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 2: But we'll see how they treat trev and then situation.

1717
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: But a mac Jones playing against the Lions on the

1718
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 5: road is not something that anybody wanted.

1719
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: No, what a world.

1720
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: The Lions is the best team in the NFC, and yes,

1721
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: what a world. I get to spend it with you

1722
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: guys every Wednesday talking out here in the Chris Westling

1723
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: podcast CEO. That was a lot of fun. Thank you

1724
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: for watching and listening to NFL Daily. Yes we will

1725
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: be back Thursday Night Football one of the best games

1726
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: of the season Commanders Eagles Steven Ruiz the Ringer will

1727
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: be joining me.

1728
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: For the recap show, so check that out.

1729
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: Yes, when we're talking about players avoiding surgery, you know

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Speaker 1: football is back.