1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: As many of you know, I have four daughters, and 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: on this podcast we talk a lot about bringing up 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: children in this new age of technology, and it's something 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: I talk about because, to be honest, I personally struggle 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: with how to manage technology with my children. There's a 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: lot of pressures for them to communicate with friends, and 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: I think if you have kids, you know that there's 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: just a lot of pressure on your children to get 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: a cell phone, get an app, get this, get that, 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: and yet if you allow any of this, they've made 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: a healthier choice. And then there's this judgment as a 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: parent that you struggle with because you're like, oh, man, 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: I let them do this, and other parents won't let 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: them do this. And I struggle with it because when 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: I was growing up, I was a really social kid, 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: and for me, I wanted to talk to my friends. 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: As soon as I got home from school. 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: As soon as I was probably in middle school, I 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: was on the phone. And it was different because the 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: phone was attached to the wall. My parents could pick 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: up the other receiver at any time and yell at 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: me to get off the phone. 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: But I needed. 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: That interaction with my friends and now the only interaction 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: you can have is through a cell phone. And so 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: it's tough for me to come to the conclusion that 28 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: I have to eliminate the cell phone because I'm eliminating 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: that connection. 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: But I know that there are dangers with the cell phone. 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: And we had a new one last week that I 32 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: hadn't really anticipated, something that I hadn't even talked to 33 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: my kids about, and I didn't actually know what's really 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: going on. So my daughter, who's in high school, was 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: dating a boy and he broke up with her, and 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: he broke up with her and immediately blocked her on 37 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: all social media, and that to me was a shock, 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't know what happened. He just 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: said he wanted to be friends, but then he blocked 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: me on everything, and it was like this massive sadness 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I could see, and I thought, what a mean thing. 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: And I sat the girls down and I said, why 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: would he do this? And they said, oh, this is 44 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: the thing. They all do this, and friends do this. 45 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: And then a friend did this to her a few 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: days later, and then and then they unblock each other. 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: But you're just cut out of the person's life. You 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: can't speak at all and it was so devastating, and 49 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: at that age, something devastating like that can lead to 50 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: catastrophic results. Right, we don't even think about it. We 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: don't really think about etiquette when it comes to these 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: cell phones. And I sat the girls down and I said, 53 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: we don't block people. It's not something we do. If 54 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: you don't want to talk to them, explain I'm not 55 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: really ready to talk right now. I need space. But 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: don't cut someone out of your life like that. There 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: are so many things that I hadn't thought of with technology, 58 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: and that's why I'm so glad that today I am 59 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: joined by retired Navy Captain Peter Ryan. Captain Ryan, he 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: now works at the Pentagon and he's devoting much of 61 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: his time to educating everyone from our military officials, two 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: parents with young kids like me on why screen addiction 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: is actually a national security issue. 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Captain Ryan, thank you for joining me. 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure talk about this because you've written a lot, 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: you've studied a lot. You said that this is your passion. 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: You want to be doing this the rest of your 69 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: life because you've seen how not only screen addiction has 70 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: affected our kids, but even those folks in our military 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: who are fighting every day or preparing to fight every day, 72 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: and there are catastrophic accidents just because of this screen addiction. 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: Can you get into that a little bit, yes, ma'am, thank. 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: You so much. So I'm a happily married father for 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: and my back. In twenty thirteen and fourteen, one of 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: my teenage children began to use the Internet in high 77 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: school and began using it more and more. It's very 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: fair to say it's more screen time was being utilized 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: late into the night. Decay followed, and significant decay. He 80 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: was a four point oh student, great fantastic son and sibling, 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: but by a sea your year, he had down near 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: it monthly apps, and I didn't know what was going on. 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: So as a type a personality, I'm digging into things 84 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: trying to understand, and the medical community didn't make sense 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: to me what they were doing. So anyway, finally it 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: occurred to me that the screen was definitely involved with it. 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: Being a navy man, I ended up then looking at 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: what's happening in our DoD and our military men and 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: women are not as healthy as they were back prior 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: to two thousand and eight. They just are and the key. 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: So I began to investigate what was going on with 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: them as well. And I actually read an article in 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: an eighty journal Proceedings called technology the New Addiction. And 94 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 3: by and large, I think we're seeing, particularly post COVID, 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: that screen time and the levels at which were using it, 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: clearly in the evening at night, when it's destroying sleep, 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: is incredibly unhealthy and it's leading to all kinds of 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: second and third order impacts, including increased depression in youth, 99 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: increasing because of our lifestyles being sedentary, vastly increasing issues 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: of overweight and obesity. We're not socializing. There's a great 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: article called technology, Excuse me? Have Smartphones destroyed a Generation? 102 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: By psychology. She's a generational psychologist, a gene doctor, Gene Twingy, 103 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: And it was in the Atlantic and I think in 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen or eighteen, and that's really the article that 105 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: caused the light bulb in my head to go off 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: with what was going on, because she is documenting how 107 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: generationally changes occur, not that quickly, but suddenly. As soon 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: as high speed internet, smartphones, streaming media, and social media 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: came about, streaming media, facilitating on four streaming porn. Uh, 110 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: there's clear data that shows our kids are changing, and 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: most all of it for the worst. 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: Well, and this is an uncomfortable topic, but you t 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: how you brought up porn, and that is something that 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: I was reading some some of those statistics before we 115 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: got on the podcast, and just to see that suddenly 116 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: now teenage boys are suffering with rectile rectile dysfunction. 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's to me, it's totally shocking teenage boys 118 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: and they're no longer dating. 119 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is now the loneliest generation. This this 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: gen Z is the loneliest generation out there. And you 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: think technology would connect you, it's not connecting you. It's 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: making you more and more go into your shell, go 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: into your your private solitude, and then to have these 124 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: these medical effects, a rectile dysfunction, infertility, what is the future? 125 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there perhaps a fertility rate decline is perhaps 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: what you referred to. Because it's interesting as soon as 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: we began to see increases in youth depression and suicide 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: and these changes in behavior, our nation's fertility rates started 129 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: declining in two thousand and eight as well. I don't 130 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: think it's any coincidence that they're happening at the same time, 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: because young people are not dating, are not interacting, and 132 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: young men are consuming and increasingly women unfortunately are consuming 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: porn and video games to such an extent that it's 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: actually more attractive to them than natural relationships leading to marriage. 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: And I think it's a very significant issue from a 136 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: national perspective, just about repopulating our nation as older folks, 137 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, die, and then also too just the health 138 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: standpoint is overwhelming, and the fact that we isolated kids 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: behind screens for over a year and a half in 140 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: many cases I think is so tragic and it could 141 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: have been foreseen with a little bit of just thinking 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 3: about what it would do to a young person's health. 143 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: I was trying to bring visibility to that. I was 144 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: centered on LinkedIn for saying that young people are going 145 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: to be harmed by this policy. Fortunately, I happen to 146 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: be Roman Catholic, and in the Catholic church here in 147 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: Fairfax County, they actually had children going to school eighty 148 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: percent of the time during COVID, which is unlike the 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: public school which was zero. And we're seeing the results 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: come out in learning loss, massive levels of depression, and 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: young people are suffering immensely and that's our future generation. 152 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,479 Speaker 3: And I pray that parents and people, you know, authorities 153 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: in the government are going to see that we've got 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: a damaged generation there, and we're continuing to damage them 155 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: by rolling out more and more screen based tools that 156 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: they're using all the time, not recognizing that very fundamentally 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: homework at night on a computer. I was listening to 158 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: a Harvard psychiatrist speak. He wrote a book called Brain Energy, 159 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: and he was talking about how screen time at night 160 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: is harming kids and leading to anxiety depression. Because it's 161 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: harming sleep fundamentally, which is probably the most studied element 162 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: of all of this, it's very hard to prove. Unlike 163 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: with smoking, where you have years and years of research, 164 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: the technology is relatively new from a scientific study perspective. 165 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: And there's also problematically the medical community has been infiltrated 166 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: by big tech. There's an entity up at the Boston 167 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: Children's Hospital which is affiliated with Harvard. It's called the 168 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,359 Speaker 3: Digital Wellness Lab, and if you go on their website 169 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: you will see who their sponsors are. Talk meta, snap, roadblocks, discord, 170 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: it's criminal. 171 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 172 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. The important thing to explain to 173 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: people out there is these apps all have some addictive 174 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: quality to them that has been created to be addictive. 175 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: It's not like it's just a side effect. 176 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: They have been created to draw people and to make 177 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: them have to come back every day or more than 178 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: once a day. I mean, Snapchat is one of them 179 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: that my kids will be like, ohh, I lost my 180 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: streak with a friend. 181 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm like it stop. These things don't what is a streak. 182 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I had to learn that that they 183 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: have to have send a picture back and forth every day. 184 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And then I'm literally having to say to them this 185 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: is not it's not meaningful. This means nothing. It's they 186 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: are tricking you. 187 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: And I said, you guys need to understand this is 188 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: the These are these companies trying to get you back 189 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: as a customer. You're not communicating with your friends. You're 190 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: a customer of these companies. It's very hard for them 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: to understand. But you said something at the beginning of this. 192 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: You said you didn't like what the medical community was 193 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: saying when you talked about your own son. 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of dig in. 195 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what you meant by that, but I've 196 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: got somebody in my family who suffers with anxiety and depression, 197 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: and I have found that the combination of the pharmaceutical 198 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: industry and technology has made it so that I almost 199 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: don't recognize this person because immediately it's like this drives 200 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: the technology drives them to the psychiatrist. The psychiatrist immediately 201 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: puts them on a drug that makes it so that 202 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: there's no ups, there's no downs, there's no joy, there's 203 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: no no crying. 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: It's just like this steady anxiety. 205 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: I would say there is anxiety, but there is not 206 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: joy or deep sadness, but the anxiety because it's like 207 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: I don't fit somewhere, drives them to their phone. And 208 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: I spend my days watching someone who plays a video 209 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: game all day. And the answer I got when I asked, 210 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: why are you doing this? Like you're it's like you're 211 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: not even here, was I have to keep my mind 212 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: active because of all of the ad D and everything 213 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: that I'm suffering from, so it's easier for me to 214 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: not be distracted by the things around me and spend 215 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: all my time on my phone. 216 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: Who is telling our young people this, Well, that's a. 217 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: Really good question. Mental health is I don't want to 218 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 3: trivialize it. It's it's a very challenging field and it 219 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: does seem to me that in general, turning to the 220 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: pharmaceutical option first for these younger eegle who are who 221 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: are suffering, perhaps just looking at the lifestyle that we 222 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: begin to engage in and modify. That podcast that I 223 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: mentioned is with doctor Chatterjee O were in Great Britain. 224 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: He's a medical doctor and he actually goes he goes 225 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: into homes and he lives with them for a while. 226 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: The BBC films him and he does non pharmaceutical interventions 227 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 3: and he says to a person, they have vastly improved 228 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: every visit he's made. So I feel as though the 229 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: pharmaceutical industry has definitely infiltrate a lot of the medical 230 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: thinking and it's driving a lot of that because there's 231 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: massive money involved with that. But to me, we're not 232 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: focused on health first. It's not to say we don't 233 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: use medicine. Medicine's critical and it's life saving, but I 234 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: don't know that it necessarily needs to be the first 235 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: option that we seem to turn to, and that seems 236 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: to be happening broadly. I feel as though if we 237 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: kids are on screens excessively, that in and of itself 238 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: is going to contribute to anxiety and stress. It elevates, 239 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: puts them in a state of fight or flight, for instance, 240 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: playing video games. The chronic stress is no good for us. 241 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: We are meant to have downtime between facing the saber 242 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: tooth tiger. You've got to be able to relax before 243 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: you can optimally perform, and we're not seeing that. We're 244 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: seeing NonStop screen usage, particularly posts COVID. Before COVID it 245 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: was like eight hours. The amount of screen time was 246 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: already incredible beforehand. It's hard to keep up with all 247 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: the statistics, to be honest with you, because they're always changing. 248 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: People are measuring at different times, different ways. But it's 249 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: fair to say with COVID it was just over the top. 250 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: In Any recommendations from medical providers to limit screen time 251 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: went out the window because they all just threw in 252 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: the talent said, well, we've got to do this virtual 253 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: schooling to protect our children. Not appreciated eating the magnitude 254 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: the harm that they were doing to them, at least 255 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: certainly hoping they didn't appreciate it. I did, and I'm 256 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: very sad it went this way. 257 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, I noticed that in one of your writings he said, 258 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, there are things that affect people's lives, pandemics 259 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: and wars, but those are moments in time. This is 260 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: something that just continues to go on. But I do 261 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: think for our kids, they have the added component of 262 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: technology and the pandemic, as you just said, because I 263 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: remember thinking my kids in Michigan, my kids were locked 264 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: in the house for months. They weren't allowed to go 265 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: to the grocery store, they weren't allowed to go out 266 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. There were literally neighbors calling on neighbors 267 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: to the police if a child was outside for fear 268 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: the child across the street might actually catch something from them. 269 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: And so our kids were so so trapped and that 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: was an escape for them there. So I do think 271 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: during that time they became much more reliant on technology, 272 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: and it was a change in their mindset of what 273 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: home time is and parents were working, kids were at home. 274 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: It was kind of the perfect storm. But as we 275 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: came out of it, I think that that didn't. 276 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: Really go away. It felt like. 277 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Home time was time to be connected, and how do 278 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: we get our kids to disconnect and also do you 279 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: see a difference between female children and male children when 280 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: you look at technology addiction. 281 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: So your first question, how do we go about like 282 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: unwinding this mess we've made. I think first of all, 283 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: parents have to understand the severity of what the screen 284 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: time is doing to them. At the levels that we're seeing, 285 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: it's not a lot of like they're tools. They're going 286 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: to be with us forever you and I are on 287 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: the screen. But we also appreciate there's brain development involved. 288 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: A young man's brain doesn't fully form until about age 289 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: twenty six, so during this key period of time, I 290 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: feel it's really important that parents in particular delay as 291 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: long as you can getting them these devices, have them 292 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: engage in activities that are incredibly healthy. You get them 293 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: out socializing. 294 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: And. 295 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Recognize the more screen time you give them, the worse 296 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: off they're going to be at the levels we're seeing today. 297 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: The Attorney General in Virginia, he actually made a really 298 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: interesting comment. He said, the minute you give your son 299 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: or daughter a smartphone, their childhood is over. And that's 300 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: kind of tragic, it really is, because so many kids 301 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: are very tragedy. But I think awareness is the number 302 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: one thing. I'm part of a group. I'm an ambassador 303 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: for screenstrong dot org. I highly recommend them for any parents. 304 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: They've got all kinds of resources and helps available for 305 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: parents that are trying to navigate this mind field. So 306 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: I feel as that awareness is the first point. Ultimately, 307 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: the Attorney General is actually suing Meta, and I'm there's 308 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: also class action lawsuits going against video games video games 309 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: that on BOMP below the radar. Largely you see Zuckerberg 310 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: and the CEO or the American CEO of TikTok in 311 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 3: front of Capital, you know, in front of Congress, but 312 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: you don't see as much about the video games, and 313 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: they are absolutely devastating. Young men, particularly women, are starting 314 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: to play more as well. Your other question was the 315 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: difference between boys and girls. There's an awful lot of 316 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: statistics on all of this and who's being affected and 317 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 3: how largely the porn and video games were the domain 318 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: of young young men and teenage boys. Like I said, unfortunately, 319 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: women are starting to adopt both more, which is a tragedy. 320 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: And then social media, I think, probably because young ladies 321 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: are very social like you said you were. 322 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: The. 323 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: Social media is definitely having a greater impact on women. 324 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: Not to say young boys aren't also affected as well, 325 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: but that's kind of that's kind of the layout that 326 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: I see, and I try to keep up with it 327 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 3: all the time. And I know things change to the 328 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: technologies morphing all the time, and so it's something to 329 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: keep up with, that's for sure. 330 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: Well. And I think that when you talk about I 331 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: mean to go back to boys, young boys being able 332 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: to go into porn sights and young girls. 333 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: One of the things. 334 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: I know we're saying, well, that affects young boys more. 335 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: But one of the things that I've noticed is that 336 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: women are struggling to find husbands, struggling to find men 337 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: who can actually function in a relationship. So ultimately when 338 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: they're young, I think that that's affecting men. But we 339 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: have women who are in their twenties and thirties and 340 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: even forties. 341 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Who are like, there are no men out there. Where 342 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: did all of the men go? 343 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: And I do think that there's like this you talk 344 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: about the brain not developing until twenty. 345 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: Six years old. I think that there is. 346 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: This almost stunting in emotional growth, and I don't know 347 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: if that is preventing men from being able to connect 348 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: on a different level with a woman in person or 349 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: what is happening. 350 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, have you found anything like that in your. 351 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: Research, because I think young women are going where are 352 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: all the guys? 353 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think you're right. That's an incredibly complex topic. 354 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: I would sit here and say that the percentage of 355 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: young men that are doing this, it's changing their brains 356 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: and their motivation. Like when you play something again and 357 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: again and again, there's something called neuropurnit. If you don't 358 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: use it, you lose it. So it is changing the 359 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: brains and the attitudes and motivation. Like any addiction, it 360 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: pulls people away from healthy behaviors. I mean the signs 361 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: that you can look for as a parent. Are their 362 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: friends falling up by the wayside? Are their activities? Are 363 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: they no longer interested in debate or art or whatever 364 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: it might be, and they're now focused on the screen. 365 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: And then obviously grades, it is changing people. Matter of fact, 366 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: I've shared with an economist, the head of the Brownstone Institute, 367 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: my theory that post COVID our inability to get trade 368 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: schools fully populated are lower skilled labor areas. We're having 369 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: a hard time getting back to full employment and this trend, 370 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: in my view, is the result of young men largely 371 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: that are sitting here gaming and just losing interests and 372 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: losing everything that was a traditional man would be doing. 373 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: And they're basically they're putting off responsibility and hard work 374 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: because it's so much more attractive to find some dopamine 375 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: rush on World of Warcraft or whatever it might be, 376 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: which is absolutely tragic and level the level of use 377 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: is just incredible. E sports is growing, and these other 378 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: kinds of things that have second and third order effects 379 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: that our nation needs to be discussing. I do believe 380 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: it's a national security threat in total. I don't want 381 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: to sound like a hunt and alarmist, but if you 382 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: look at the harm to our kids, and if we 383 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: see that continuing as we're rolling out more and more 384 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: screen time in the educational arena, more and more just 385 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: devices of all kinds, I think we really need to 386 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: tread carefully because I think there's really negative ramifications associated 387 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: with this excess screen time. 388 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 389 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: it Titor Dixon podcast, so you to also talk about 390 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: how this affects our navy. Tell me a little bit 391 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: about what you've seen there because you've even noted that 392 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: there have been some deadly accidents, and you can connect 393 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: that back or believe that you can connect that back 394 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: to this addiction to technology. 395 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: Yes, Tutor, the very fundamentally one of the most clear 396 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: impacts that's been the most studied is the impact of 397 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: these devices on sleep. And the Navy sailors have always 398 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: been tired. It's hard work. 399 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: You know, you're watching, I'm making that face because I'm like, 400 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: oh gosh, what am I doing to myself? I mean, 401 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: I think this is very convicting, even for us as adults, 402 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: because I'm like, I'm guilty of this as well. 403 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Just scrolling through my phone and then going. 404 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: To sleep, right right, so back. If you recall there 405 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: were some major ship collisions involving many fatalities and the 406 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: loss of the ship in some cases, the McCain and 407 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: Fitzgerald collisions, if one of the underlying causes for that 408 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: was said to be sleep, you know, lack of sleep 409 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: on the part of the watchstandards. If you look at 410 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: things such as mishaps per flying hour, which is an 411 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: aviation metric, we see a growing set of mishaps per 412 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: flying hour from twenty eleven to twenty eighteen. The data 413 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: is hard to come by. That was Floyd information, but 414 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: it clearly seems to be growing in lockstep with the 415 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: with the growth in screen time that we're using at large, 416 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: and then the Navy also and d ord in a 417 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: bigger picture, we've seen a growing set of suicides that 418 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: matches in growth that which the greater population of young 419 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: people is showing. So between mental wellness and sleep, it 420 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: seems to me that we're less ready as a force, 421 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: and we need to help our military men and women 422 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: understand the addictive nature of these games that, as you said, 423 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: Silicon Valley trains these behavioral scientists how to make these 424 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: products addictively, which is a fact. And then so training 425 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: our sailors on that, and then going ahead and putting 426 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: in prudent limitations on screen. Use to make sure that 427 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: we're optimized, that we're well, we're healthy. These kinds of 428 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: limitations on screen you should be something that we all 429 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: consider what we're doing, because it's a lifestyle thing that 430 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: we've just embraced. And even going to the weight room, 431 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: I look at young guys sitting on the bench they're 432 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: on the bench press, and they're sitting there and They're 433 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: scrolling on their phone between sets, and I'm like, Okay, 434 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: are you going to get up ten minutes this went by, 435 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: I need to use the bitch and I'm being a 436 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: little bit flicked. 437 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing. 438 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: Is physical health something else that we've seen a decline 439 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: in physical health. I mean we even I think it 440 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: was ten years ago or maybe even twenty eleven when 441 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: an article came out saying that we're too fat to 442 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: serve as Americans. 443 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: And these are young people. 444 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about teenagers who can't join the military because 445 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: they're so overweight. 446 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: And I've seen this increase. Just the difference. 447 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: I think when you are a young person today and 448 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: you have children and you go to kindergarten for the 449 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: first time with your kids. I mean, I'm in my forties, 450 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: so I go back to the eighties when I was 451 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: going to kindergarten, and I look at the difference just 452 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: from my elementary school experience to my kids today. And 453 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: I look at the children in the school and there's 454 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: just this is not to criticize, but there's no way 455 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: to miss the fact that there is a significant number 456 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: of children who are severely overweight. And I wonder how 457 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: has technology contributed to that? And not just from the 458 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: standpoint of my own kids being on technology, but also 459 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: me being on technology, because it's just like a time suck. 460 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: It sucks things, It sucks your day away from you. 461 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: You don't you can get to the point where you 462 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: don't realize you're doing it, and it's like, oh, did 463 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: I have time to make a healthy meal? 464 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 465 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: I probably did if I didn't allow the time suck, 466 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: you know. And then you wonder, is it because my 467 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: kids are sitting around on the couch that they're gaining weight? 468 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: What are we doing. 469 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Today as a society that suddenly this generation Gen Z 470 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: and Gen Alpha are suddenly so much more unhealthy than 471 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: past generations. 472 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: How could we be getting to a point where. 473 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: We're becoming unhealthy rather than healthier with all we know? 474 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: Amen? Would you come on the speaking circuit with me? No? Sure? 475 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: Why not? 476 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm passionate about this and I have constant guilt 477 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: about it myself because I'm like, are we having enough 478 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: conversations and are we sitting down as a family enough 479 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: and is that keeping them from getting sucked into these ideas? 480 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: And I do think that there's a huge responsibility on 481 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: parents today to have more meaningful conversation, To take that 482 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: time we're putting everything away. Tell me about your day, 483 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: tell me what's going on, tell me about the boy 484 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: you like. And that's another thing that I've had parents 485 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: like I don't want to talk about that stuff, Well, 486 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: they're going to talk about it with someone else. How 487 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: do we get more engaged with our families. 488 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: Well, that's a first of all, I think parents have 489 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: to take ownership of it. And that's probably not something 490 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: that's necessarily popular, but we have to set our own limits. 491 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: When we go to the dinner table at a restaurant, 492 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: how many times do you just see families immersing their 493 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: faces and smartphones all the way around. It's rather tragic. 494 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: I see kids in the neighborhood being pushed in strollers 495 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: babies and the parents are walking the smartphone. It needs 496 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: to be there needs to be a national movement toward 497 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: understanding what the technology has done to us. I go out. 498 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: Prior to two thousand and eight, you'd regularly see see 499 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: kids riding bikes in the neighborhood, running around, playing kickball 500 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: over in the side open yard. You don't see that 501 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: as much anymore, and that's leading to all these consequences 502 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: of being overweight, being unhealthy, being isolated, and frankly for 503 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: parents too. I think this NonStop connectivity looking at whatever 504 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: the news is online, like I'm a news junkie too, 505 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: but I've actually made a point to get a newspaper 506 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: sent to me once a week, and I try to 507 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 3: greatly limit my time on the news because I think 508 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: you can get yourself worked up too. So then parents 509 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: are tired, single parents, especially what a challenge that would 510 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: be coming home in today's day and agent I would 511 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: have given my kid an iPad to go here, spend 512 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: some time, let me make dinner, into the dishes, and 513 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: do some laundry. I sympathize greatly. Our pace of life 514 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: is incredibly challenging, but as a family we probably need 515 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: to have an honest discussion internally and say what are 516 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: we doing as a family? How is it impacting us? 517 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: Because I tell you what, if we continue down this road, 518 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: the problems are only going to get greater unless we 519 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: get this under control. And I feel as though, you know, 520 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: reaching back on our faith, the pace at which we're 521 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: going is also pulling kids away from their faith. These 522 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: devices are the new golden calf if you will. And 523 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: when I get presentations, I actually put an iPhone up 524 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: in place of the golden calf. 525 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: But you know, just yesterday I was at a meeting 526 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: and one of the speakers said, I will tell you 527 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: that there are two simple things that you can measure 528 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: as to whether or not your child will be a 529 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: healthy adult. And one of them is do you make 530 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: time to sit down for dinner together and actually talk? 531 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: And the other one is ask yourself how often you 532 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: take your child to a church service. And you know, 533 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: those are things that now used to not be sacrifices. 534 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: Now we see those as sacrifices. They're so critical to 535 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: be involved and show your child that they are important. 536 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: He made another comment, every time you're sitting there on 537 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: the cell phone mindlessly scrolling, someone else is more important 538 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: than your kid, you're teaching than that, and you're teaching 539 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: them that they can also feel that someone else is 540 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: more important than their family member. 541 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: Man, it's really convicting when you go through this. 542 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: But that's why I really, I just I enjoy having 543 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: these conversations because I am learning, and I think there's 544 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: so many parents out there like me who have never 545 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: we've never experienced this we didn't grow up with it. 546 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: We don't know how to handle it. There's so many 547 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: pressures and how do we control it. So I appreciate 548 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: so much what you're doing. I think there's so much 549 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: more that we can dig into this conversation, and I'd 550 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: love to have you back and have more conversations about this, 551 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: because I think we can really we've kind of uncovered 552 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: the problem, but we can really dig into what some 553 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: solutions are and how parents can manage this, and how 554 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: we can talk to other parents about this too. So 555 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: I'd love to have you back to kind of dig 556 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: in a little deeper. 557 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: I would that would be my honor. 558 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to well, thank you so much. 559 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for reaching out to me and being willing 560 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: to come on Captain Ryan. 561 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: What you're doing is so important. We appreciate you. 562 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate what you're doing. Tutor. 563 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, and thank you all for joining us 564 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: on the tutor Best. For this episode and others, go 565 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 2: to tutordisonpodcast dot com. 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