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Speaker 1: Welcome in. I hope all of you are having fantastic

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Speaker 1: Thursdays wherever you may be across this great country or

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Speaker 1: around the world. We are here to make the next

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for hanging out with us. Give me

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a roadmap. Tulsea Gabbert is going

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Speaker 1: She is in the running to potentially be Trump's vice president,

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Speaker 1: but also maybe as well in his cabinet. We will

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Speaker 1: talk with her. We'll also talk Arizona politics at two

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Speaker 1: thirty with abe Hagadah, who is running out there for

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Speaker 1: a congressional seat. So that is where we are headed.

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Speaker 1: In the third hour of the program. Buck is out today.

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Speaker 1: He is traveling. We have got a massive day of

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Speaker 1: outside of studio promotional related activities that will be taking

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Speaker 1: in the air, I believe, as I am speaking to

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Speaker 1: you right now, en route to Nashville, this probably doesn't

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Speaker 1: surprise a lot of you, but there are many things

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Speaker 1: that are involved in doing this show that don't actually

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Speaker 1: out there, which is a pretty incredible accomplishment and thanks

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Speaker 1: to many of you. But I am fired up this morning,

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, wherever you may be across the country, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's just hit the afternoon on the East Coast,

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Speaker 1: still morning everywhere else. Harrison Butker is a guy that

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are not going to know at all.

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Speaker 1: He's a Kansas City Chiefs kicker. He is instrumental in

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Speaker 1: was asked to give a commencement address at a Catholic

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Speaker 1: has been building for multiple days now as the left

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Speaker 1: player to have. Mind you, I'm going to play some

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Speaker 1: of these clips and I think it's important for you

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Speaker 1: a huge amount of people in media and on social

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Speaker 1: media and in American life in general who talk left

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Speaker 1: but live right. That is, they embrace all left wing

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Speaker 1: you hear what Harrison Butker said. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning, the NFL condemned Harrison Butker's comments in

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Speaker 2: Listen, I want to speak directly to you briefly because

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Speaker 2: I think it is you the women who have had

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Speaker 1: That is a man, in his most public statement, probably

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Speaker 1: What's going on here? What's really going on? Because I'm

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Speaker 1: Live right. What does that mean? That's what the NFL

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Speaker 1: That is an aspirational goal. You know who does that,

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Speaker 1: That is I believe something that almost every man and

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Speaker 2: This is an important reminder that being Catholic alone doesn't

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Speaker 2: To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our

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Speaker 1: I mean that's controversial. Of course it isn't. And I

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Speaker 1: people out there recognize this at some point in their career.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why on your deathbed, nobody says, boy,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I really wish I could have gotten

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Speaker 1: that vice president title in my corporation. That would have

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Speaker 1: really made me feel better. Here as I'm about to die,

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Speaker 1: nobody says that you ever hear anybody say that you're

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Speaker 1: eighty five years old. You're on your deathbed, boy, that

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Speaker 1: VP that would have made me the seventy sixth most

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Speaker 1: important person in a moderately successful corporation. Boy, I just

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Speaker 1: wish i'd really grasp that brass ring. What are your

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Speaker 1: regrets in life? Well, I was the eighty sixth most

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Speaker 1: important person at my company. If I'd really done a

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Speaker 1: lot better, I could have been the seventy fourth. I

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Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people say that we've lost

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Speaker 1: grip on what legacy and success is. And this is

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Speaker 1: why I'm so fired up. And sometimes I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm screaming at the clouds and nobody else. I'm the

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Speaker 1: old man shaking his fist at the clouds. This is

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Speaker 1: why nobody's having babies, This is why humanity's population is collapsing.

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Speaker 1: Having kids can be hard, raising them can be hard.

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Speaker 1: It's incredibly gratifying. A lot of people don't want to

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Speaker 1: do hard things anymore. A lot of people in America

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Speaker 1: and around the world don't want to do hard things,

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Speaker 1: and as a result, humanity's collapsing. Everybody's always talking about

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Speaker 1: global warming. Oh my goodness. I don't worry at all

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Speaker 1: about the temperature of the Earth. I worry about whether

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Speaker 1: there's going to be humans on it. If you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about existential threats to society, go look at

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Speaker 1: the ground. Once women stop having two point two children

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Speaker 1: per woman, the population in the world collapses in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: And I think the fact that hardly anyone is addressing it,

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Speaker 1: or it's considered controversial if you even mentioned gender roles,

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Speaker 1: is a bigger reason why a lot of women don't

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Speaker 1: like men and a lot of men don't like women

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Speaker 1: right now. And I think a lot of it has

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Speaker 1: to do with gender roles. You know, women get sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of all college graduate degrees. Now they can't find

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Speaker 1: men that have the same educational level as them. They're unhappy.

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Speaker 1: Men can't find women who want to have a baby,

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Speaker 1: They're unhappy. I saw stat the other day some places

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of thirty year old men are virgins thirty percent.

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Speaker 1: They made the movie The Forty year Old Virgin to

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Speaker 1: mock the fact that that could have ever happened. Now

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Speaker 1: men can't even have sex anymore. Women don't like him,

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Speaker 1: men don't like the whole construct of society is collapsing,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like many people out there are narrow

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Speaker 1: with the violin in Rome, watching as everything burns down,

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Speaker 1: actually concerned about things that don't go to the root

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Speaker 1: causes of our cultural collapse. But anyway, I tend to

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Speaker 1: be an optimist, but when I see this reaction to

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Speaker 1: up verbal arms and actually defend him, because what he's saying,

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Speaker 1: what do you actually disagree with? Maybe there's people out

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Speaker 1: there who disagree with something that he said, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: But did anything that he said actually even approach the

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Speaker 1: possibility of controversy? In my mind, the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is falling apart. We've conflatednversy and truth. Hard truths aren't

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Speaker 1: allowed to be spoken in this country anymore because some

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Speaker 1: people's feelings are going to be hurt and as a result,

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Speaker 1: the whole country goes to hell. I don't really care

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Speaker 1: if your feelings are hurt. My goal in life is

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Speaker 1: not to avoid hurting your feelings. If that happens, I

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Speaker 1: grow up. Remember we used to say sticks and stones

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Speaker 1: may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

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Speaker 1: Now all we do is focus on words over actions.

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Speaker 1: I said it, Harrison Bucker would have been better off

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Speaker 1: being accused of sexual assault or getting a DUI than

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Speaker 1: he would be to tear up praising his wife for

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Speaker 1: being a homemaker. It's crazy. We're in an upside down world,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you Bucks away. He'll be back

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Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. But Buck took on a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different media projects before he and I partnered on this program,

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Speaker 1: and one of them was co hosting a podcast years

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Speaker 1: ago with an economics expert by the name of Porter Stansbury.

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Speaker 1: Porter studies our economy and world events like few do.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he helped shape bucks

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Speaker 1: views of our nation's economy and how it's affected by

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Speaker 1: politics and world events. Porter Stansbury has predicted almost every

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Speaker 1: and he helped predict the two thousand and eight financial crisis.

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Speaker 3: Chief up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty

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Speaker 3: four a Sunday highlight reel from the week. Fight it

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. As we were rolling

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Speaker 1: through the third hour of the program. Buck'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: He's traveling. We have a photo shoot. Don't even get

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Speaker 1: me started on the three hour photo shoot that we have.

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Speaker 1: I didn't pick out my clothes. I wonder if Buck

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Speaker 1: picked out his My wife doesn't trust me to pick

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Speaker 1: out my own clothes to get my photos taken, So

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Speaker 1: that probably gives you a good sense of my fashion sense.

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Speaker 1: As I'm sitting here in a T shirt and shorts

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Speaker 1: doing the show, Tulsi Gabbert joins us. Now, Tulsi, do

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Speaker 1: you pick out your own clothes for photo shoots or

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Speaker 1: do you have a stylist? Do you think you have

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Speaker 1: good style? My wife has no faith in my style.

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing as I was hearing you say that I

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Speaker 4: don't have a stylist, but generally, if I'm doing something

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Speaker 4: fancy like that, I will ask my husband, and I

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Speaker 4: trust his case far more than I trust my own.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting here in workout clothes as I'm talking to

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Speaker 4: you today, so we're good.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. How long have you

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Speaker 1: been married?

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Speaker 4: We just celebrated our ninth anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, We're about to celebrate twenty. My wife for twenty

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Speaker 1: years has asked me what should I wear to an event?

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Speaker 1: And for twenty years I've had no idea what to

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Speaker 1: tell her. Does your husband give you good advice on

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Speaker 1: what to wear new events? I mean, it's actually kind

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Speaker 1: of curious because you have so many formal events I

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Speaker 1: would imagine and things to go to, Like the whole

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Speaker 1: concept of what to wear to things for women, I

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Speaker 1: have no idea.

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Speaker 4: It's a real problem. It's a real problem, Clay. I

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Speaker 4: am of the mindset that in you in a twenty

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Speaker 4: four hour period, and maybe you can relate. We have

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Speaker 4: a lot of decisions to make just in the course

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Speaker 4: of a day everything you know, what am I gonna

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Speaker 4: have for breakfast or what to far more serious things,

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Speaker 4: and so for me, I like to minimize the decisions

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Speaker 4: about what I wear to be as simple as possible

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Speaker 4: as why men. One of the reasons that's why when

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Speaker 4: I'm on army duty in uniform like that is that

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Speaker 4: is the easiest thing. So I just I keep it

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Speaker 4: very simple. So if I have to break out of

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Speaker 4: my normal rotation of three suits or blazers that I use,

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Speaker 4: I do ask my husband. He has he has great

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Speaker 4: tastes in just being able to tell like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: he has never steered me wrong. He's a cinematographer, he's

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Speaker 4: a musician, so he uses a different side of the

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Speaker 4: brain than I do. And it's always, you know, I

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Speaker 4: just go for clean, classy and simple, and he is

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Speaker 4: on the mark anytime I have any question at all.

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Speaker 1: Talsea Gabbert always finally dressed for the per appropriate thanks

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Speaker 1: to her husband having great taste. All right, let's dive

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Speaker 1: into this CBS News supposedly VP debate July twenty third,

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Speaker 1: August thirteenth. They haven't set a date officially yet. How

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Speaker 1: bad do you think you would massacre Kamala Harris if

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Speaker 1: you got the opportunity to go head to head against

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Speaker 1: her in a vice presidential debate? And how much, based

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Speaker 1: on your experience in the twenty twenty race, would you

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Speaker 1: relish that opportunity? Be honest, is there anybody you would

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Speaker 1: rather of this orrate in a debate than Kamala Harris?

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Speaker 4: You know I'm not one to hold personal grudges. However,

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Speaker 4: I can say, based on the experience I had in

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Speaker 4: our interaction on a debate stage in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 4: how surprised I was that her lack of preparedness to

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Speaker 4: address her own record that she was running on during

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Speaker 4: her presidential campaign. She was proud of her record, and

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Speaker 4: yet asking her some very simple questions about that record

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Speaker 4: completely blew her cover and showed how ill prepared she was,

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Speaker 4: and that has only been reaffirmed throughout her tenure as

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Speaker 4: Vice president. So I would love to have the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to go toe to tode with her on a debate stage.

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Speaker 4: There is not a lack of material to address given

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Speaker 4: the substance of the failures of both President Biden and

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Speaker 4: Vice President Kamala Harris in their positions.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it speak to how bad she is that, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that Joe Biden is objectively I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say, the worst president in most of our lives,

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Speaker 1: they are terrified at eighty two year old Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: stepping down because it would mean they would have to

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Speaker 1: elevate Kamala Harris, who has managed to somehow be worse

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Speaker 1: than Joe Biden despite the fact that he's the worst

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Speaker 1: president ever. I mean, that really kind of sums up

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Speaker 1: the awfulness of their combination, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: It does, and it it points to the lack of

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Speaker 4: judgment obviously in President Biden knows around him. For him

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Speaker 4: to make a decision that he stated from the outset

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Speaker 4: would be purely based on identity politics reveals the failure

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Speaker 4: of that whole That whole premise. I think the other

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Speaker 4: thing that just came to mind, given.

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Speaker 5: Their identity politics, is is I know this because it's

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Speaker 5: the excuse Kamala Harris uses every time anyone in the

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Speaker 5: media dares to point out her failures and her lack

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Speaker 5: of preparedness.

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Speaker 4: Is she says, well, you know they are racist or

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Speaker 4: they are sexist. If I am going toe to toe

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Speaker 4: with her as a quote unquote woman of color on

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Speaker 4: the debate stage, I don't know how she uses that

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Speaker 4: as an excuse to cover up her inadequacy and her

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Speaker 4: in her lack of qualification to serve in the current

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Speaker 4: position that she's in and to be literally one breath

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Speaker 4: away from the presidency.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Tulsea Gabbard, four term congresswoman, combat veteran

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Speaker 1: currently serving as a lieutenant colonel in the US Army Reserve,

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Speaker 1: and she has a best selling book for Love of Country,

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Speaker 1: which you'd encourage you guys to go check out. Tulsa.

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Speaker 1: You grew up in Hawaii. I believe believe you are

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Speaker 1: a big surfer. I think we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: Would you have ever believed that men would be able

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Speaker 1: to identify as women and compete in Surfing Championships to

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Speaker 1: win women Surfing championships as a woman who has grown

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Speaker 1: up surfing all over Hawaii. If you and I are

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Speaker 1: around the same age, if I had told you that

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Speaker 1: was going to happen in two thousand and three, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, twenty years ago, I think you would

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Speaker 1: have told me that I was crazy, and maybe I

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Speaker 1: would have agreed to make that argument. But now it's

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Speaker 1: democrat standard orthodoxy. How do we get here?

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Speaker 4: It is? It's literal insanity, and I dedicate a whole

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Speaker 4: chapter in my book specifically to this topic, both because

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Speaker 4: of what the consequence is. I've spoken with a few

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Speaker 4: of the women who are currently on the World Surfing

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Speaker 4: Circuit Tour and then expressing their frustrations because not only

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Speaker 4: is it completely unfair, there are two different divisions for

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Speaker 4: a reason. The physical capability of male surfers to be

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Speaker 4: able to paddle into some of the biggest waves in

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Speaker 4: the world is just different from the women. These women

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Speaker 4: are excellent beyond you know, I'm like I'm like in

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Speaker 4: kindergarten as a surfer compared to what these women are

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Speaker 4: doing and dominating around the world. However, they are different

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Speaker 4: for a reason, and if they speak up about it,

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Speaker 4: they will immediately see their sponsorships canceled and perhaps be

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Speaker 4: kicked off the tour. We see this because it happened

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Speaker 4: to Bethany Hamilton. You know, she had her arm bid

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Speaker 4: off as a child, and so as a one armed

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Speaker 4: surfing woman, she is still going out and competing and

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Speaker 4: doing things that I define.

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Speaker 1: Me pause here for a moment with you, because I

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Speaker 1: want the Bethany Hamilton's story to me is so amazing.

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Speaker 1: If I ever got attacked by a shark, because I

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Speaker 1: think that's how she lost her arm, right as a surfer,

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Speaker 1: she was attacked by a shark. If a shark ever

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Speaker 1: bid me, if I had the tiniest little cut, ever,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would ever go in the ocean again.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the bravery that it takes to lose

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Speaker 1: an arm to a shark and then get better and

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Speaker 1: go back out into the ocean with only one arm

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Speaker 1: to try to catch waves. I mean to me, that

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Speaker 1: is a bravery that's unparalleled in terms of athletics. And

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Speaker 1: she's speaking out and saying, hey, there's a big difference

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Speaker 1: being paid attention to by many.

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Speaker 4: People she's not and worse, she's being retaliate against. And

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Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. I mean her courage and bravery as

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Speaker 4: she was healing from, you know, the shark bit off

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Speaker 4: her arm very close to her shoulder, so there's nothing

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Speaker 4: there really to work with. She doesn't use a prosthetic

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Speaker 4: when she's paddling. I don't even know if that's a

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Speaker 4: viable thing. But she was eager. I think she was

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Speaker 4: twelve years old when this happened. She was eager. It's

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Speaker 4: amazing in the water to pursue her passion and really

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Speaker 4: what I respect in her and her story. It's powerful

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Speaker 4: for so many reasons. But as you look at the

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Speaker 4: cur she exhibited them and you look at the courage

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Speaker 4: she exhibits now as a mom of I think three

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Speaker 4: kids now competing in incredible ways around the world. When

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Speaker 4: she just stood up and said men should not be

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Speaker 4: competing against women in surfing, her decades long sponsor immediately

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Speaker 4: canceled their sponsorship for her, which is a way to

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Speaker 4: earn her livelihood to help support her family. And there's

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Speaker 4: a thing on International Women's Day that's become a tradition

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Speaker 4: in surfing where the male surfers. As they're competing, they

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Speaker 4: choose the name of a woman they admire and put

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Speaker 4: it on their jersey. In these past couple of years,

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Speaker 4: multiple male competitors chose Bethany Hamilton as the woman they

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Speaker 4: most admire. And after Bethany Hamilton made that statement, the

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Speaker 4: World Surf League would not allow her name on these

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Speaker 4: men's jersey. Unbelievable, Like four or five of them wanted

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Speaker 4: to feature her, admire her, applaud or champion her, and

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Speaker 4: they said, no, you are not allowed to have this woman,

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Speaker 4: this specific woman's name on your jersey. I give her

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Speaker 4: so much credit because she is continuing to stand up

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Speaker 4: and speak out for free speech and for equality for

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Speaker 4: women and girls and protecting women and girls in surfing,

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Speaker 4: in all sports. And I hope that more women are

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Speaker 4: willing to do the same, and men for that matter.

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Speaker 1: I think this is important. I think I asked you

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Speaker 1: this the last time you were on your in consideration

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Speaker 1: potentially to be vice president or to be involved in

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Speaker 1: the cabinet. You and I have a similar political evolution.

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Speaker 1: You were a Democrat. I voted for Democrats, I worked

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Speaker 1: for Democrats, and then I finally just looked around starting

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Speaker 1: about six seven years ago in real earnest and said,

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Speaker 1: Democrats have lost their minds, and I haven't really changed.

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Speaker 1: I still believe pretty much the same thing I always have,

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Speaker 1: but I'm now considered to be a right winger. And

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Speaker 1: as I talked earlier, people say, oh, I'm super controversial

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Speaker 1: because I say things like, you know, men's sports should

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Speaker 1: only be made up of men, and women's sports should

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Speaker 1: only be made up of women. I think there are

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Speaker 1: tens of millions of people out there, like you and me,

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Speaker 1: who are persuadable to recognize that things are broken in

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Speaker 1: this country. They need to be fixed, and much of

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Speaker 1: the breaking is being done by the left wing in

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Speaker 1: this country. How many people do you think are out

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Speaker 1: there persuadable and how do you think they respond to

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Speaker 1: you when you make that argument?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I mean millions to tens of millions of

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Speaker 4: people at at a minimum. You know, my evidence is

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Speaker 4: purely anecdotal at this point. But I live out of

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Speaker 4: a suitcase, and I travel across the country, and I

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Speaker 4: meet people and hear from people every single day who

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Speaker 4: say the same thing that you just said, who resonate

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Speaker 4: deeply with my experience. In your experience who are now

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Speaker 4: being called conservatives or right wing Republicans simply for standing

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Speaker 4: be censoring speech. Free speech is free speech in America.

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Speaker 4: That the government shouldn't be weaponizing its institutions against its

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Speaker 4: police should be allowed to do their jobs, our borders

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Speaker 4: should be secure. These things are not radical ideas, they

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Speaker 4: are fundamentally American ideals. And I specifically focused in my

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Speaker 4: fundamental principles. And this is where I see hope and

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Speaker 4: opportunity in this election, and where I've experienced my ability

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Speaker 4: to connect with people and let them know, hey, it's

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Speaker 4: not only okay for you to walk away from the

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Speaker 4: craziness of the Democratic Party, but we must seize this

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Speaker 4: moment as Americans and fulfill our responsibility as citizens to

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Speaker 4: save our country and to defend our freedom and make

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Speaker 4: sure we send President Biden and Kamala Harris packing on

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Speaker 4: election day.

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Speaker 1: We were heading out to Arizona right now, where we're

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Speaker 1: going to be joined right now by Abe Hammada, who

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this. I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: into the Attorney General of Arizona race with you here

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Speaker 1: in a sec. But first, you were a prosecutor. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've been paying some attention to the Trump case

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Speaker 1: in New York City that Alvin Bragg brought as a prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: How would you analyze the case? So far from your perspective, They're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna be with you. Well, if you look at this,

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Speaker 6: you know, people always ask me about my legal analysis

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Speaker 6: on this case, and quite frankly, it's kind of difficult

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Speaker 6: to do that because I think all of us can

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Speaker 6: recognize what is happening. It's a political witch hunt. The

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Speaker 6: case involved, you know, federal issues of election law that

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Speaker 6: was declined way back in twenty seventeen. But Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 6: what he did he brought the third highest ranking member

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Speaker 6: of the Department of Justice to be this prosecutor on

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Speaker 6: this case. So I'm a former prosecutor Clay, and I

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Speaker 6: am ashamed of the legal system. And if you're looking,

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Speaker 6: it's not just in New York with this one case.

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Speaker 6: You see Letitia James, Fanny will, as you have Chris

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Speaker 6: May's out here in Arizona. Then you had Jack Smith.

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Speaker 6: And what really concerns me is these are attorneys who

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Speaker 6: are in their forties, fifties, and sixties who are this

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Speaker 6: radicalized with this Marx societeology. What concerns me is this

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Speaker 6: new crop that's coming out of the universities, how committed

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Speaker 6: they are going to be to destroying our country in

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Speaker 6: the rule of law. So you know, this is this

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Speaker 6: is why Trump passed to win. And I know the

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Speaker 6: jury pool is very heavily favored in terms of the prosecution,

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Speaker 6: just because it was overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. But if

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Speaker 6: you look at Michael Cohen's testimony, he's a convicted liar

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Speaker 6: multiple times.

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Speaker 4: And I think the defense is doing an.

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Speaker 6: Excellent job on it. But you know, it's hard, but

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Speaker 6: it's stacked against you so much. But I you know,

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Speaker 6: we have to pray and hope that the jury does

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Speaker 6: the right thing. But I think everybody, at least everybody

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Speaker 6: watching this, if they've seen any trials of this case,

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Speaker 6: they're they're looking at this as a witch hunt, and

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Speaker 6: I think has only helped Trump in his election prospects.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to dodge this because you're a politician,

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Speaker 1: and politicians are good at dodging questions. This is going

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Speaker 1: to be maybe the most difficult question you get this

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Speaker 1: whole campaign. You went to Arizona State undergrad, you went

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Speaker 1: to the University of Arizona for law school. Who do

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Speaker 1: you root for when Arizona and Arizona State play and

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Speaker 1: a tie. And by the way, a tie is not

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Speaker 1: an acceptable answer at all, sir.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not. I'm brutally honest.

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Speaker 6: Well, it depends which sport. My brother in law, he

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Speaker 6: was actually an NBA champion who played at ASU, Jeff Ayres,

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Speaker 6: So you know, with basketball it's probably ASU. But you know,

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Speaker 6: typically you of AAD does a lot better, but football

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Speaker 6: attends to be u OF banned. It really depends on

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Speaker 6: which sport it is. But I had a good time

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Speaker 6: at both schools.

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Speaker 1: I saw, by the way, that is the typical politician answer. Well,

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Speaker 1: in football one thing, basketball another, so both sides can

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Speaker 1: be happy and angry simultaneously. I'm sure you saw the

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Speaker 1: video of the ASU frat guys clearing up the Palestine

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Speaker 1: but a lot of people were like, hey, good for

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Speaker 1: those guys. Would you have believed when you were at

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Speaker 6: No, And I think that's what's so scary right now.

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Speaker 6: Clay is how aggressively Marxists are. And I've always been saying,

865
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Speaker 6: what it's kind of an unusual alliance that's happening right now.

866
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Speaker 6: Right you see these I mean these people have purple hair,

867
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Speaker 6: pink hair, they don't know what gender they are. They're

868
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 6: flying this LGBTQ flag along with hes Bolas flags and

869
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Speaker 6: Palestinian flag, which is unusual, right, But this is what

870
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Speaker 6: Marxism is. It's stilled as contradictions. They're using the universities

871
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Speaker 6: as their training camps. They're using the media as their

872
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 6: propaganda arm, and they're using radical Islamis b l M

873
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Speaker 6: and Antifa as their military wing. So you know, in

874
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Speaker 6: combination of all those three things, it's a recipe for disaster.

875
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Speaker 6: And what's you know, I applaud ASU and U of

876
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 6: A has been cracking down a lot more aggressively than

877
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Speaker 6: other schools. And if you saw the frat boys at ASU,

878
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 6: it was almost sanctioned by the university. Actually, the police,

879
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 6: the undercover police are basically telling hey, go do the go,

880
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 6: do the dirty work for us. So I'm it's good

881
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 6: to see that strong people. You know, courage is contagious, Clay,

882
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: and I think that's what's important. We have to stand

883
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Speaker 6: for truth. We have to protect you know, these you

884
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 6: know we keep saying jewishuits, but these are American suits.

885
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 6: I mean, these are our fellow Americans. And imagine if

886
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 6: the the same was in reverse, where you've saw people

887
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Speaker 6: in his jobs not allowed to go to campus classrooms.

888
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 6: You know, everybody's been being an up war. So we

889
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 6: have to we have to be fair. We have to

890
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, protect our Jewish American students, and uh, you

891
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Speaker 6: know in Congress.

892
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Speaker 4: What I want to do.

893
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 6: I'm want to start going after the universities. They're taking

894
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 6: all this money from Qatar, China, the Emirates, and that's

895
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 6: the problem right now, is that our universities are captured

896
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Speaker 6: by foreign countries.

897
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Abe. I'm gonna get you right now.

898
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Speaker 1: Your name correctly here, Hammaday. You can correct me if

899
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Speaker 1: I'm mispronouncing. One of the things that I do on

900
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: the show all the time, Abe is mispronounced everybody's name.

901
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: I think I have the worst phonetics on the planet.

902
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: So hopefully I'm getting that right. I want you to

903
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Speaker 1: dive into because you know better than anybody what's going

904
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Speaker 1: on in Arizona. I'm sitting here in Tennessee. Buck is

905
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: usually down in Florida, and I'm concerned that in twenty

906
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: twenty four, the election's gonna come down to a few

907
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: thousand votes in Arizona. And we saw what happened in

908
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty where it felt like it took a month

909
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: to figure out what the vote tally was going to be.

910
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: You know better than anybody, I would say, almost in

911
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: the entire country in twenty twenty two. You can tell

912
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: the audience that may not be aware how minimal the

913
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: gap was between you being the Attorney general of Arizona

914
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: and you not and all of the issues, particularly Americopa County,

915
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Speaker 1: but certainly in other parts of Arizona as well. Should

916
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: we non Arizonas but I'm sure Arizonas certainly want this

917
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: as well. But for people outside, have you guys fixed

918
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: the election related issues? Are you confident that in twenty

919
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: twenty four, we talked to carry Lake a couple days ago,

920
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: you know this, tell us your attorney general experience in

921
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: that race and what happened, and should we be confident

922
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: at all in process in Arizona?

923
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, that's a great question. And you're pronouncing my

924
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 6: name correctly, Clay and I don't have an easy name

925
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 6: like you at two first names.

926
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Speaker 1: I've actually got three Richard, Clay, Travis, And yes, that

927
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Speaker 1: causes its own issues, but yeah, tell us about the

928
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Speaker 1: attorney general process.

929
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Speaker 6: Absolutely so. In twenty twenty two here in Arizona, we

930
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 6: all saw what happened with those machines going down. Ultimately,

931
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Speaker 6: you know, I supposedly lost my race by two hundred

932
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 6: and eighty votes out of two point five million, the

933
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: closest race in Arizona history, Clay. And there's still nine

934
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 6: thousand uncounted ballots from election day. And what's interesting about

935
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 6: that is a lot of these ballots that were not

936
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Speaker 6: counted are actually legitimate ballots. One of them is the

937
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Speaker 6: husband of a state senator who's an Army veterans for

938
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 6: thirty years. Imagine his vote did not count, it was counted.

939
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Speaker 6: They classified as a provisional ballot. So and we overwhelmingly

940
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Speaker 6: won election day votes. That's why those machines were targeted.

941
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Speaker 6: I believe they were targeted, and they went down in

942
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Speaker 6: my congressional district that I'm running, and it was hit

943
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 6: the hardest, and it was a very Republican area with

944
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: the most amount of seniors in the entire state, and

945
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Speaker 6: those you know, those people can't wait in line for

946
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Speaker 6: that law. And I tell people that I am not

947
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Speaker 6: confident about what's going to happen. I'm only confident that

948
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: me and Terry Lake have been exposing all of this

949
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 6: here in Arizona. But unfortunately, the same people who ran

950
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty, in twenty twenty two in Arizona are still

951
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 6: in charge. However, I think a lot of these lawsuits,

952
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 6: you know, there has been good momentum with it. We

953
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 6: have a strong RNC chairwoman, We have a strong Arizona

954
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 6: Republican Party chairwoman who's excellent on election integrity. So at

955
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: least we're vigilant now, but we have to be guarded

956
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 6: of course. But you know, with President Trump, I think

957
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 6: they're worried right now. Clay, in twenty twenty, the biggest

958
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 6: difference was there wasn't this rise of third parties. If

959
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 6: you remember, the Green Party was not on the ballot,

960
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 6: RFK Junior was not about. So now you have this

961
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Speaker 6: combination of all these third parties. So I think it

962
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 6: becomes more difficult for the left to positively cheat in

963
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 6: this election. I tell folks, you know, how they're doing,

964
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Speaker 6: how they're rigging our elections, not just the voter roles.

965
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Speaker 6: It's not just the machines with the you know, going

966
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Speaker 6: down death by a thousand cuts. And that's something that

967
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 6: I've learned over the past two years, and that's why

968
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Speaker 6: I'm so excited. You know, I've endorsed by President Trump

969
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 6: and Kerry Lake because they know I'm a strong fighter.

970
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 6: I don't back down from this corruption. So when I

971
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Speaker 6: go to Washington, DC, it's going to be one of

972
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Speaker 6: my top priorities. But my race is July thirtieth, and

973
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Speaker 6: when I win my primary, it's a very Republican district.

974
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Speaker 6: I'm going to make sure we recapture the Senate by

975
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Speaker 6: getting Carry Lake elected, and we take back the White

976
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Speaker 6: House by getting President Trump elected. Because this is a

977
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Speaker 6: do or dielection. Everybody recognizes it. And Arizona, You're right,

978
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 6: it was the closest state in the country and now

979
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Speaker 6: it's being headed by these Democrats and unfortunately some of

980
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 6: these weak need Republicans who don't want to acknowledge what's happening.

981
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Speaker 6: But look at just yesterday in Texas, a judge literally

982
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Speaker 6: just ordered a new election for twenty twenty two. I

983
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 6: don't know if you saw that. But you know, people

984
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 6: are starting to take election integrity much more seriously now,

985
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Speaker 6: and I think that's a good thing. We have to

986
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Speaker 6: really focus on it when we get to Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: AB.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. Two hundred and eighty votes. I can't

989
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Speaker 1: even imagine what that's like. We're rooting for you guys

990
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Speaker 1: all to take back Arizona, flip it back a red

991
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Speaker 1: and help to restore some sanity in the country. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time.

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