1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Thursday edition 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: of the program. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: I am out in Seattle having a fabulous time hanging 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: out with the Hillsdale College crew. Spoke last night with 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: their big I think there are five hundred and six 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: hundred people in the room for their event out here 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: in Seattle. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Really outstanding. 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Buck is out today and tomorrow, will be back with 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: me on Monday. In the meantime, it's you, me and 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: hopefully millions of our friends out there. And we got 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: a couple of news stories that we got to update 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: you on that have happened. If you just happen to 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: get in your car right now or you're just hanging 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: out with us. Two of the seven seeded jurors have 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: now been dismissed in the Donald Trump rig job trial 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: in New York City. One juror woke up this morning 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: decided she could not be honest and impartial and that 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: she didn't think she was up for being on the jury. 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: She has now been released from jury duty. Another juror 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: was caught lying. Jur number four that we talked about yesterday, 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: born in Puerto Rico, said that he was too hard 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: working to have crimes, to have crimes, to have hobbies, 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: claimed that he did not have any strong political leanings 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: or opinions surrounding Donald Trump. He has actually, it turned out, 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: been caught as a liar. He was arrested in the 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: nineties for political activism in Westchester County, which is a 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: wealthy county outside of New York City. So he now 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: is off the jury as well. So they have caught 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: one juror line. Another juror says she isn't up for 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: the tumult of sitting on the trial. This is spiraling 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: rapidly out of control. A lot of you are real 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: acting out there to this insanity and in the VIP mailbags, 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Lewis says. So they dismissed a juror guilty of the 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: same infraction as the judge and prosecutors, will they charge 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: him with perjury? 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good question. 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: I would think if you claim that you did not 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: have strong political opinions and it turns out you were 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: arrested in the nineties for having strong political opinions. You 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: probably should have disclosed that fact. I'm sure they ask 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: the jurors whether they have ever been arrested. So this juror, 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: I think, probably should be charged with perjury. He was 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: trying to rig the election through this jury. That is 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: trying to rig the election too, Jeff writes Clay, There's 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: no way the jurors identity will be unknown unless they 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven sequestered. There will always be people 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: placing huge pressure on these jurors. That's why they need 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: to postpone the trial until after the election. Trump's going nowhere. 53 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: What's the harm? Why have twelve people? And this is 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: my argument, this is Jeff writing in Why have twelve 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: people effectively determine the election and not one hundred and 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: fifty million citizen voters? Makes no sense to have this 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: trial continue. Supreme Court needs to be petitioned to delay 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: trial for the good of the country. 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Well, the challenge here is state court, and. 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: You would have to work through the entire state court 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: apparatus before you were able to find the federal issue 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: that should be in play in order for the Supreme 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Court to have any opinion here at all. I have said, 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: and you can grab this, you can flag it, you 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: can come back to it in a year. Supreme Court's 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: going to overturn the entire basis upon which Alvin Bragg 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: has brought these charges. He's elevated a misdemeanor to a 68 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: felony based on a second crime that I don't believe 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: eve is permissible under New York law. Not to mention, 70 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: the statute of limitations has already expired. And this is 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: a clearly political based prosecution. Remember, Alvin Bragg has lowered 72 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: fifty two percent of all felony charges in Manhattan to misdemeanors. 73 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: It is almost unheard of for him to elevate a 74 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: book keeping misdemeanor, which is what this case is, to 75 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: a felony. So not only is this a political rig job, 76 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: he is actually doing the opposite of almost everything that 77 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: he does for every other case that he deals with. 78 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: That is, generally speaking, he takes felonies and lowers them 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: to misdemeanors. 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Here he is. 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Taking a misdemeanor and elevating it to a felony. They 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: did a search of how many cases are similar to 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: this right now in Manhattan. Misdemeanor elevated to a felony 84 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: based on a second law almost non existent for anybody 85 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: but Donald Trump. So we're not only talking about a 86 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: political prosecution. We're talking about a political prosecution without precedent 87 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: in the way that Alvin Bragg treats other criminal related issues. 88 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: And we're now seeing this entire case fall apart because 89 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: they can't see anyone on the jury without them lying. 90 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: Because the truth of the matter is this, Yes, there's 91 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: gonna be pressure on jurors, but also there's going to 92 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: be jurors who potentially get book deals. Can you imagine 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: if you are a left winger who hates Trump, and 94 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: there are a lot of them, especially in Manhattan. You 95 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: get seated on this jury, you keep all of your notes, 96 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: You aggressively keep track of everything that happens during the 97 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: course of the trial. You convict Trump, and then you 98 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: write the book about you being a juror on the 99 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: trial and the conviction of Trump that occurred. That person 100 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: might well get a multimillion dollar book advance. Now they'll 101 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: try to say, hey, we don't want you to keep 102 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: in notes, Hey we don't want you writing a book. 103 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 2: But once the conviction occurs, somebody's going to write a book, 104 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: and if you are the juror who makes that happen, 105 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: you're a hero on the left. You can catapult that 106 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: into a life worth of salary from one book. Conversely, 107 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: if this trial completely falls apart and there isn't a 108 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: conviction and you're a juror who refuses to convict, you 109 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: could become a hero on the right. Now you might 110 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: have to move out of Manhattan. But are you telling 111 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: me that these jurors aren't aware of that? Do they 112 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: have functional brains? Of course they're aware of that. Other 113 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: than the oj trial, which we know was a ridiculously 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: racist rig job refusing to convict him because of what 115 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: happened to Rodney King, there hasn't been a jury in 116 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: the last thirty years that is anywhere near as famous 117 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: as the jury will become on this trial. So don't 118 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: sell me the idea that these jurors don't understand the 119 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: implications of the value that they can unlock in their 120 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: own personal lives if they end up on this jury trial, 121 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: and if they are partisan in nature, they're not imbeciles. Now, 122 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: I understand why a lot of people don't want to 123 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: be on the jury trial. I understand why some of 124 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: you out there would say this is the last thing 125 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: I need. I understand why a lot of you out there, 126 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: who may be Trump's supporters in New York City, would 127 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: say I don't want this, because a lot of you 128 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: were probably undercover already. I'm in Seattle right now. I 129 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: spoke at the Hillsdale event. I met a lot of 130 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: our listeners last night. A lot of them came up 131 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: to me and said, we're undercover. One woman said, Hillsdale 132 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: sent me a bumper sticker. She said, there's no way 133 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: I would put that on my car living in the 134 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Seattle area, because it would get defaced and someone would 135 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: rip it off, and something might happen to me if 136 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: they found out that I was the kind of person 137 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: who supported Hillsdale College. A lot of you listening to 138 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: me right now, I bet undercover. Some of you are 139 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: in your offices right now, and you're listening to me 140 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: in your earbuds, and you're camouflaging who you're listening to 141 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: because you're afraid your coworkers might find out. That's very 142 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: common in New York City. That's common in Seattle, where 143 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: I am right now. Many of you who live in 144 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: leftist cities are undercover because you're worried about what would 145 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: happen to you at your own job. So I actually 146 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: think there's tons of people out there who would support 147 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: Trump that don't want to be on this jury because 148 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: they're afraid they would get outed, because they might not 149 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: be willing to convict. We mentioned yesterday one of the 150 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: jurors that seated is an attorney. Let me tell you 151 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: a lot of law firms won't even allow their law 152 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: firm to represent Donald Trump. If I were an attorney 153 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: at a big firm in New York City and I 154 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: was a Trump supporter, I would probably have to keep 155 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: that quiet. Well, almost need a secret handshake. Do I 156 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: want to be on that jury trial? If it comes 157 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: out that I was a juror who refused to convict, 158 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: it could be the end of your legal career. Your 159 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: partners might force you out of the law firm if 160 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: you voted on a jury that you didn't think Trump 161 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: was guilty. Conversely, if you were on the jury and 162 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: you were in that law firm, the firm might reward 163 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: you if you were on and you shepherded a guilty verdict. 164 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: This is the world we're in, Man, so I understand 165 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: some people who are like, hey, I just I don't 166 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: want to be involved in this is going to blow 167 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: my life up. I can't stay in Manhattan and be 168 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: a Trump guy anymore or a Trump gal. If I 169 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: got seated on this jury, I just want out. I 170 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: can't be impartial. I think there's lots of people saying 171 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: that on the flip side. The reward in Manhattan if 172 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: you put Trump send him up to the Big House, 173 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: I think it's substantial because it's an eighty seven to 174 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: ninety percent anti Trump audience. Your employer might reward you, 175 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: it's got gonna stun you. Some of our Clay and 176 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: Buck employees who live in New York City area, they 177 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: have to really stay undercover. 178 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: They don't want to get out it as the Trump person. 179 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you in Seattle, the conversations that I was 180 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: having last night, there's a lot of fear about even 181 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: acknowledging what your politics are if you're not a left 182 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: winger right now. So it would take someone incredibly brave 183 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: to actually apply the facts here and call out effectively 184 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg for rigging the game in favor of left wingers. 185 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of people who just 186 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: don't want to get in that fight, respective of the 187 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: fact that you've got a rig jury pool already that 188 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: hates Trump. Even a lot of the people who love 189 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: Trump don't want to get out at as Trump people. 190 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a scary world that the left has created. 191 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: And what it all adds up to, in my opinion, 192 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: is a trial, a prosecutor, and a jury pool that 193 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: is also directly rigged and polluted and bogus that it's 194 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: impossible to even contemplate how true justice could happen in 195 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: this case. I'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred 196 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: two two A A two again big breaking news. Two 197 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: of the judge uh the jurors have been removed. We've 198 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: got a report from right outside of the courthouse about 199 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: the second juror and why he was removed. I will 200 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,479 Speaker 2: play that for you when we come back. In the meantime, 201 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: I told you I was at a Hillsdale event last night, 202 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: Larry arn the leader of Hillsdal. I left that and 203 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: then saying I want my kids to apply to go 204 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: to Hillsdale. Not sure they'll get in. Only twenty percent 205 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: of the applicants get in. But man, He is the 206 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: kind of leader that we need at more universities right now. 207 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: And I love Larry arn and everything that he is 208 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: standing for at Hillsdale right now. He even told me 209 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: last night, he said, almost everybody we admit to Hillsdale 210 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: now has a perfect GPA high school GPA. They absolutely 211 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: kill it, he said. In his twenty years, they have 212 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: only had I believe the number was twenty students graduate 213 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: from Hillsdale with a four point zero. At that university 214 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: average GPA is two point eighty five. I said, how 215 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: does that happen? He said, we want you to work 216 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: hard and we want you to learn, but we don't 217 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: do great inflation. You know, almost everybody gets an A 218 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: at almost every college out there. Hillsdale is so committed 219 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: to the idea of education, and they got a crazy 220 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: idea not everybody should get an A. Not everybody. Only 221 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: twenty people in twenty years have been capable of even 222 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: getting a's in everything. I kind of love it. I 223 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: love everything about the school and they do and are 224 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: having such a tremendous impact all over the nation. Hillsdale 225 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: has had a ton of Supreme Court clerks. It's kind 226 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: of unheard of. I believe they have four Hillsdale graduates 227 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: on the Supreme Court clerking right now, every judge only 228 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: gets four, so you're talking about thirty six Supreme Court clerks. 229 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Hillsdale's had four. 230 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: Recently, was talking to doctor arn They have seven people 231 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: now who went to their journalism program. Credit to the 232 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal working at the Wall Street Journal right now. 233 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: And Primus is going out to millions of people. It's 234 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: their free newsletter. 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Clayanbuckfur Hillsdale dot com. One more time, Clayanbuck 245 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: for Hillsdale dot com. We're going to take some of 246 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: your calls at the top of the next hour, about 247 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: five minutes from now. So if you're with us right 248 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: now eight hundred and two two two at A two, 249 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: I promise that I will get to you when we 250 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: come back at the top of the next hour. A 251 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: lot of you want to react about a variety of 252 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: different topics out there, but I want to make sure 253 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: that I'm keeping you updated on all of the breaking news. 254 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: Here is Fox News discussing the removal of juror number four, 255 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: who they determined had lied during the jury selection process. Again, 256 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: we're only three days in, two jurors out of the 257 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: seven now off the trial. Here is the report about 258 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: jury number four that. 259 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: This has to do with something that very well could 260 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: have been the fact that this juror may had been 261 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: arrested back in the nineteen nineties conducting some type of 262 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: political vandalism against something posters on the right, and it 263 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: was not revealed or he did not remember it and 264 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: did not include it, and that is why that juror 265 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: has been dismissed. 266 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but if I had ever 267 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: been arrested, I think I think I would remember it. 268 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: So it's very very lenient to a juror to say, oh, sorry, 269 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: I didn't remember that I got arrested in a political 270 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: related event. I'm sorry. That sounds super super political in nature. 271 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: Sounds like a rick job was in effect. Now credit 272 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: to the DA because they caught this doing a background check. 273 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: But how in the world do you try to sit 274 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: on a criminal trial as a jury member and not 275 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: disclosed that you've previously been arrested for a political related 276 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: charge back in the nineties. I think that would be 277 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: hard to forget. I could be honest with you guys, 278 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: so far, I've never been arrested in my life. Now 279 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg may arrest me soon for calling out his 280 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: ridiculous kangaroo court of a case, which case I'll have 281 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: to change that, I'd say I've been arrested now. 282 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you forget that. 283 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't think any of you out there when I 284 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: say have you ever been arrested? You might not want 285 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: to tell me, but you certainly aren't thinking to yourself. 286 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: Let me think about that for a little while. It's 287 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: like down Staley when you got asked about trans athletes. 288 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: She paused and took a drink of water. If I say, 289 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: have you ever been arrested? Before and your first thought is, well, 290 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: define arrest. Well, let me take a dream here for 291 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: a moment before I give you an answer on that. No, 292 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm betting you've probably been arrested. So two jurors down, 293 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. I'll take your calls and we 294 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: come back. But I want to tell you in the 295 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: meantime about Liberty Safe. How many of you out there 296 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: have things in your home that you desperately want to 297 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: protect and make sure isn't easily accessible to everyone. That's 298 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: what liberty Safe does. 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You guys got your finger on the pulse 318 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: of your audience. I'm in real estate sales, picture, I'm 319 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: a business card, but I can't put anything on social media. 320 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 4: I can't promote things from my views because I'm living 321 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: in the ability of the beast here. So that's exactly right. 322 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: There's a lot of conservatives out there that have job, 323 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: self employment or whatever that just kind of have to 324 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: keep their views a little parked, which is that's okay, 325 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 4: But on the other hand, it does represent kind of 326 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: a void where you don't see us as much. 327 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: So thank you for the call. 328 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 6: You nail it. 329 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call I'm getting. I got a 330 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: bunch of messages people like, do you have a camera 331 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: in my office right now? How did you describe exactly 332 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: how I am listening to your show so perfectly like 333 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: you're looking around though buck Buck is a former CIA agent. 334 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: You'll be back on Monday, by the way out with 335 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: carry for the rest of the weekend on a quick 336 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 2: vacation trip. But no, we don't have cameras in your office. 337 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: But I know how a lot of you are listening 338 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: because the number one thing that people say to me, 339 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of people said it at the Hillsdele 340 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: event last night. They come up and they say, you 341 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: say everything that I wish I could say, because you're 342 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: worried about keeping your job, You're worried about paying your mortgage. 343 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: You're concerned that if everybody knows what you actually think, 344 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: your life could be really impacted in a very negative way. 345 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: Which is why I think even though they've got a 346 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: rig jury pool, I actually think there's tons of Trump 347 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: people who don't want to be on that jury because 348 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: it would out you and it could cost you your job. 349 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: Dave and Jackson, Michigan. What you got for us. 350 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 5: Pleasure taking my thank you for taking my call. 351 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for listening. 352 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: What you got the birthplace of the Republican Party. I'm 353 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: not absolutely afraid I've got a nineteen seventy six front 354 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 5: license plate. We don't require two plates on our cars here, 355 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: but I get a front United States flag license plate 356 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: by centennial addition, and on the back I probably displaying 357 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 5: my license plate issued from Lansing United States Marine Corps. 358 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: So I'm not afraid of that. But here's the question 359 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: I have for you, sir, what's going on with this 360 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: tainted not tainted? Well tainted for one thing. But you 361 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: know statute of limitations is a big deal. Yeah, everybody 362 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 5: can step in. 363 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. 364 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: First of all, I think if this juror, juror number 365 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 2: four who's been dis mass, if they are correct that 366 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: that juror had previously been arrested in the nineties, that 367 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: sounds like that juror lied to try to get seated 368 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: on this jury. I believe the jury should be prosecuted. 369 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Juror members should be prosecuted. I said, I hope that 370 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: some of the Trump people get on the jury. People 371 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: are fired up about that early this week. I don't 372 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: want you to lie. I don't want you to commit 373 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: a crime to get on the jury. But if I 374 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to get on that jury by answering questions. Legally, 375 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: I would do it in a heartbeat. But if we 376 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: find out, as appears to be the case, that a 377 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: left winger is trying to get on that jury because 378 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: he wants to throw Donald Trump in prison and he 379 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: declined to announce that he had been arrested, I think 380 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: that guy should be prosecuted for perjury. As I was 381 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: saying as we went to break last time, I don't 382 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: believe that you could you could have forgotten whether or 383 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: not you had ever been arrested. I just I don't 384 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: think that's a foreseeable reality for anyone out there. And 385 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: so I think he lied to try to get on 386 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: the jury because he knew if he admitted that he 387 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: had had an arrest for an election related issue in 388 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties, that would have gotten him struck. 389 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: There's no way they to put him on. Andrew in Polo, Illinois. 390 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 7: What you got for us, Andrew Clay, I'm a huge fan, 391 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 7: great to talk to you. First got to know you 392 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 7: from reading Dixie Land and Dixie Land to Light and 393 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 7: on Rocky. 394 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: Top, so govaals. 395 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 7: I got a what I would like to call a 396 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 7: highly likely hypothetical question for you Let's say all these 397 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 7: charges that they're trying to levy against Trump don't work, 398 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 7: he gets on the ballot, he wins the election. What 399 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 7: are they going to do. Are they going to try 400 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 7: invalid invalidate the election by pulling up some old statute 401 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 7: out of the spider webs, or do they JFK. 402 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for the call. I, like many of you, 403 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: am worried about Trump's personal safety on a regular basis. 404 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: So I don't see how you could not. 405 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: Be terrified for how crazy there are people out there 406 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: on the left. So I hope that he is well protected. 407 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: I hope that the Secret Service agents do a great 408 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: job with him, and with Joe Biden, and with anybody 409 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: who's going to be in a prominent place in politics. 410 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't want an RFK. I don't want an MLK. 411 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't want a nineteen sixty eight situation. I don't 412 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: want a JFK situation. We've been very fortunate in avoiding 413 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: violent acts directed towards political leaders in this country for 414 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: a long time, and I hope that keeps going. On 415 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: the other part of the question, you asked, oh, I 416 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: think that all the people who told you that January sixth, 417 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: was an insurrection and argued that it was a unique 418 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: threat to American democracy. Will do everything they can to 419 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: avoid acknowledging the electoral votes. If Donald Trump is elected president, 420 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: they will protest, they will throw fits, they will have 421 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: rallies all over Washington, d C. I think that they 422 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: will have mass riots. Democrats will all over this country 423 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: if Trump wins. They used the one incident of misbehavior 424 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: from people on the right January sixth to treat it 425 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: as a unique outrage, despite the fact that BLM spent 426 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: months burning down cities all over the country. And remember 427 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: there was plywood everywhere in the windows all over America. 428 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: When election twenty twenty happened as an implicit threat that 429 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: riots would ensue if Trump were re elected, everyone knew 430 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: what was going on there. I expect the same sort 431 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: of reaction if Trump were to win in a little 432 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: over six months from now. Sheila in Racing, Wisconsin. Once 433 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: you got for is Sheila? 434 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 8: Hi, Hi Clay, thanks for taking my. 435 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Call, Thanks for listening. 436 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 8: Hey, listen, I want to zero win on this jury 437 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 8: selection and the board deer process specifically. I was just 438 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 8: listening to the breaking news about two jurors the dismissed, 439 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 8: and one was for going on social media. I was 440 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 8: on a jury back in nineteen eighty seven before social media, 441 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 8: and one of the things you do not do is 442 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 8: talk to anybody, including your spouse, about the trial. So 443 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 8: in today's era of social media, I can't believe how 444 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 8: anyone who is not sequestered could possibly follow that rule. 445 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 8: And I was talking with your screener and I said, 446 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 8: in order for him to get a fair trial, and 447 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask you this, Clay, I think that he 448 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 8: needs to go out of Manhattan into another county with 449 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 8: a change of venue. And if Trump's attorneys did introduce 450 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 8: a change of venue and the judge denied it, number one, 451 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 8: does that show an impartial judge? And number two, where 452 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 8: could Trump go for a fair trial? Since he is 453 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 8: so well known over the entire world world. I just 454 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 8: want to say one last comment is when you're on 455 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 8: a jury, for them to be asked the question do 456 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 8: you have an opinion one way or the other about 457 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 8: Donald Trump? If they said no, I can't believe that 458 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 8: because everybody has either a negative or a positive view 459 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 8: of Trump because he is so well known, and so 460 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 8: to say something like that is really not truthful. I'm 461 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 8: wondering what kind of jury purgery charges could be put 462 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 8: again to the one from Westchester County. 463 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay, great questions, several of them. Let me try to 464 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: take him in order. I believe Trump has requested a 465 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: change of venue already. It's already been rejected. They don't 466 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: want to give a change of venue because they know 467 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: they have a tremendous advantage. Eighty seven percent of the 468 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: voters in this jurisdiction voted against Trump and for Biden 469 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty plus. They don't want to give up 470 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: their political power. Judge Marchand wants this case. It's the 471 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: greatest case of his judicial career. He thinks of himself 472 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: as a hero for sitting on this case. I would 473 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: bet Alvin Bragg sees this as the case that will 474 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: propel his political future, potentially to the governor's mansion in Aubany. 475 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: He's never going to give up an advantage. Crew can 476 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: check on this. But I believe that motion for a 477 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: jury to be moved has been rejected already. Where would 478 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: it be I talked a little bit about this. I 479 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: think you should go to a county that is fifty 480 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: to fifty because that's where America is. If you wanted 481 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: a true jury of Donald Trump's peers on this issue, 482 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: I threw out Miami Dade County. I think you could 483 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: take this case to Nassau County or Suffolk County out 484 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: on Long Island. I think you get a much more 485 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: honest version of the fifty to fifty nature of this country. 486 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: There are few places in America less representative of the 487 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: United States than Manhattan. That is not a jury of 488 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: Trump's peers. It's a rig job. That's why I said 489 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: you should be able to remove case is like these 490 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: to your home jurisdiction. Paul Beach County I think would 491 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: be fair. I don't know what the data is on 492 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Palm Beach County in general. I think it's close to 493 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty in Florida. That's where Trump lives now, 494 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: that's where mar Lago is. This case would never get 495 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: a conviction in Palm Beach County. I think the judge 496 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: probably would throw out this case. Honestly, I think this 497 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: case is going to get tossed eventually because I think 498 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: it's bogus in terms of the statute of limitations. The 499 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: fact that it's been elevated from a misdemeanor to a felony. 500 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: The fact that if you analyze this, the only way 501 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: it stands is based on a second crime that is 502 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: being added to potentially a federal crime to a state charge. 503 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't add up. 504 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: It's not going to be legally sustainable, but it's not 505 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: going to be struck down. I don't think before November fifth, 506 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: when the election happens, they just want to be able 507 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: to say, see. 508 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Trump's a felon. 509 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: And then the last question I think that we got 510 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: there was I think this is perjury. I don't believe 511 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 2: if this jur did not disclose the arrest, which has 512 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: been the report so far, so I'm reacting to the 513 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: reports from the media to be fair, If this jur 514 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: did not disclose his arrest in the nineteen nineties for 515 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: a political related charge in Westchester County outside of New 516 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: York City, I think that's clear perjury. She's right when 517 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: she said it's hard to find anybody. If anybody says 518 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: I don't have an opinion of Donald Trump, I think 519 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: that's a lie. But it's hard to prove that an 520 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: opinion is not true. Whether you've been arrested or not 521 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: is a fact, and if he didn't disclose that, in 522 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: my opinion, he lied in an effort to get on 523 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: the jury. We'll take some more of your calls. We 524 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: got loaded lines eight hundred and two two eight A two. 525 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: I am Klay Travis. We appreciate all of you hanging 526 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: out with us, and I want to tell you it 527 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: is Major League Baseball season. 528 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 5: You know. 529 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm down the road from where the Seattle Mariners play. 530 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: They had an afternoon game yesterday. My kids are obsess 531 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Braves. 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By 551 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: the way, we're going to continue to follow all of 552 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: the updates as we will for the next several weeks 553 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: on the Trump trial. But I actually saw a couple 554 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: of stories that I thought were super important. One of 555 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: those had to do with the crazy NPR check that 556 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: they have put in control there. But also the Google 557 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: company has fired twenty eight employees for protesting on the job. 558 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: I actually saw that as a super positive development. We'll 559 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit more as well in 560 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: the third hour as we continue to discuss the absolute 561 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: latest on the Trump trial. But I want to take 562 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: a couple more of your calls here, rob in let's see, wait, Steven, 563 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: South Carolina, what you got for. 564 00:32:52,680 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 6: Us calling about your comments? About people more or less 565 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 6: hiding in the closet well listening to your program, or 566 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 6: trying to hide who they are for a fear of 567 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 6: being fullag at work. And I'm just calling to say, 568 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 6: I hope you don't condone that for the sound like 569 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 6: he did. 570 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: And well, hold on me. Let me just ask you 571 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: a question, Steve, Where do you live. 572 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 6: South Carolina? 573 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? When's the last time South Carolina elected a Democrat statewide? 574 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 6: Oh? Care where I am? Bob? I am who I am? 575 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: I get it. But Steve, thanks for the call. Let 576 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: me tell you something. 577 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: It's easy to live in a red state and call 578 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 2: in and call people coward to live in blue states 579 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: or blue cities and have to worry about what their 580 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: politics might do to them. So if you don't live 581 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: in New York City, and if you don't live in 582 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and if you don't live in San Francisco, 583 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: and if you don't live in Seattle, you don't, frankly 584 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: have any clue what the pressure is on you. 585 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: And I appreciate the fact. 586 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: That people who want to be incredibly outspoken and aggressive 587 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: in what they believe. 588 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: I am that. 589 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: And I'm fortunate now to have a career where I 590 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: get paid to say exactly what I think every day. 591 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: But I also understand that I am speaking for lots 592 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: of people that don't have that luxury, and it would 593 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: be incredibly arrogant and condescending of me and my opinion 594 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: for me to tell you, Hey, if you live in 595 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: New York City and you've got a job that's allowing 596 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: you to pay your mortgage and put your kids in college, 597 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 2: but you have to go to DEI seminars in order 598 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: to keep your job, you should stand up and call 599 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: out their bs in front of the whole company. 600 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what probably would happen. 601 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: You would get fired, and you might feel better because 602 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 2: you got that off your chest. But feeling better doesn't 603 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: pay the mortgage and it doesn't pay your kids tuition. So, 604 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: with all due respect you calling in and saying those 605 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: people are cowards, I'll say exactly what I think. When 606 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: you live in South friggin Carolina and there hasn't been 607 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: a Democrat elected in your state in forty years, the 608 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: pressure is a little bit different on you than it 609 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: would be if you live in New York City or Seattle, 610 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: or Chicago or San Francisco. A lot of you don't 611 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: feel that you have the ability to say what you 612 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: really think and. 613 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: Keep your jobs. I think that's wrong. 614 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 2: But I respect a lot of you out there who 615 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: are willing behind the scenes to fight battles that you 616 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: can't fight publicly. So no, I'm not going to call 617 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: those people out. The people I will call out are billionaires. 618 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: If you are rich and nobody can do anything to you, 619 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: and you are a coward, I think you deserve criticism. 620 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: If you've got. 621 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: Twenty million dollars and you won't say what you think. 622 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: If you've got one hundred million dollars and you won't 623 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: say what you think, I think you're a coward. If 624 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: you're fighting your ass off to pay your mortgage and 625 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: keep the job that you already have to take care 626 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: of your family and you don't feel like you can 627 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: speak out and say the truth. Guess what we're here 628 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: for you. I know what that feels like. I have 629 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: been in that position, and I'm never going to forget it, 630 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: and I'm never going to apologize or call out people 631 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: who are trying to fight those battles.