1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Today's episode was recorded before the SAG after a strike 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: began on July fourteenth. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Table for two. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Thanks you as always for tuning in and supporting entertainers. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and thank you for joining us today on 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Table for two. This episode, we're back at the Tower 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Bar in Los Angeles for another delightful lunch. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Oh your back lit? Oh my god, here she is. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me today at the table. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Today's guest is an Emmy winning actress, writer, and producer 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: who's so stylish in her Genes striped shirt and diamond 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: necklace that she gets an A plus on the bossing scale. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Her going into dressed up dressed down mode is all 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: the more impressive because she recently added mom to her 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: long list of accomplishments. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to have a Caesar salad and steak Fritz 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: please medium and with some hot sauce on the side. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: You know her from the office that she wrote for 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: and started, and more recently she created shows like Never 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Have I Ever and The Sex Lives of College Girls. 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: That solid looks great. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: I've never uttered that sentence before, but that's all looks great. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have a meal today with the marvelous, 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Mindy Kaling, So pull up a chair, poor a glass 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: of rose, and enjoy the show. I'm Bruce Bossi and 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this is my podcast Table for Two. You know, my 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: very good friend Andy Cohen is also a single parent. 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I began the process of being a father with the 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: idea of it being a single parent. And it's really 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: a very serious decision and a very brave decision, Mindy. 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: That you made. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: How did that feel for you when you held your 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: baby for the first time? 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: You said, Okay, this dream has come true. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: I think my kids are such a huge part of 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: my life. And I knew growing up. I was always 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: obsessed with romance and romantic love and obsessing about boys, 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: even when I was like thirteen, fourteen years old, and 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: I was like, never someone that boys like wanted to 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: date or do anything. So it sort of made the 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: passion and the interest more intense, if that makes sense. 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: So I was very boy crazy with zero success, and 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: so I had this pent up interest and I always, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: you know, and a lot of projects I write and 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: work on or about women who are obsessed with marriage, 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: both because I relate to it and I also think 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 3: it's really funny, right and that's why it is fun 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: and all the padfalls of making decisions to make somebody 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: love you and how you change yourself and all that. That 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: is just something that is so interesting to me and 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: so relatable to me. And there is also a desperation 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: to it that is, you know, makes you incredibly unhappy 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: in my twenties, wanting to find someone, anyone to settle 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: down with. And I think, I mean, that's why I 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: think the show Sex and the City was so groundbreaking. 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: In addition to being so funny and. 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: So fashionable and completely. 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: Darren and Michael Patrick King are so great, but it 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: tapped into this thing of like, you don't have to 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: be desperate and sad, and that came out when I 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: was I think from the ages of nineteen to twenty three, 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: so it came out at a great time, but I 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: didn't have money or access to that lifestyle, so you know, 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: I was still sort of a desperate, desperate person who 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: wanted to be in a relationship. But I feel blessed 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: because I was also, if might equal to my desire 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: to find a man, I wanted to have children, and 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: that intensified when my mother died because for me, it 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: was like I don't want to be in my deathbed, 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: hopefully in my like comfortable hospital room or even better 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: in my own home, and not have anybody around my bed. 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: I want there to be kids, and I want there 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: to be grandkids. And that to me was way more 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: important than these other sort of shallow things of like 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: I want my six bedroom house in the Palisades and 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: my kids going to this school with my husband just 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: a surgeon or the head of a studio. That was 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: all important to me. But the thing that was the 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: most important to me was this relationship with my phantom 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: children that I didn't have, you know, and that when 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: I got older, that you know, they wouldn't like weird 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: like I pictured. I'd be like living in New York 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: City and they'd come visit me and would like walk 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: to go see place together and then go to the 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: poll and for dinner and I would you know what 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they'd just hang. 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: Out with me. When I'm in my sixties and seventies. 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: Also, there became a thing when all my twenties I 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: was I would date guys for like two three years 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: and then break up. And then I was on the office, 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: which was beyond a full time job. As a producer 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: and a writer and a director on that show. And 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: I loved my work, but I stopped when I would 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: be single in these little windows between boyfriends. I started 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: in my thirties to really despise going to parties out 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: here and what I wanted to start doing. And I 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: don't know if you felt this at all, is I 98 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: started being like, I really like this vibe of going 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: to friends houses and they have kids. It's it's it 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: was like it was on one level, I want to 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: have children. I mean, I probable I wanted my social 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: life to change. I wanted it to look different, like 103 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: I didn't need to be going to some house in 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: the hills and like Outpost or the Birds where you 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: know there's no parking and you're walking to a party. 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: And it was just a bunch of dudes my age 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: who are interested. 108 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: And was very insightful. 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think very insightful for you, 110 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't sometimes have the fortune 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to sort of take a step back and look at 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: it like that, to sort of say, okay, so therefore 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to change how I live my life, approach 114 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: my life. It's like staying at the party too long, 115 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: staying in the game too long, and you say okay, 116 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: and then you look back and you're like. 117 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that was exactly it. I didn't want to stay 118 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: at the party too long. Yeah, it was the literal party. 119 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I can't stay at these kinds of 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: parties anymore. 121 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: Right. 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: One of the things I always say about what has 123 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: created a lot of empathy and sympathy in me is 124 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: growing up feeling different. When you talk about sort of 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: feeling different, you know, and I believe that becomes a 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: power of ours because in it becomes this heightened sense 127 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: of empathy, sympathy, kindness. 128 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: FYI. 129 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: The thing I have to just say is, you know, 130 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: when I was telling Ava today at breakfast, who I 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: was having lunch with, She's like, well, does she know 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: how much I love the office? 133 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: Does she know? I'm like, she knows she loved that 134 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: huge fan. Do you think you know? How did that? 135 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: How did those years growing up kind of muld mindy 136 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: into becoming Time magazine has named in one of the 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: most one hundred influential people. 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Like that's a big deal, madam. 139 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: You kind of yeah, I think you nailed it, Which 140 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: is like being an outsider is key, you know, And 141 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: for me, I was an outsider in so many different 142 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: ways or I always have this chip on my shoulder 143 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: growing up, you know, being this like dark skinned Indian girl, 144 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: sort of not traditionally attractive, like kind of friendly, overweight 145 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: kid that was never dating or anything like that. Like 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: I really felt like an outsider. And I think one 147 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: of the benefits of being the child of immigrants was 148 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: like I really had to code switch a lot. Like 149 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: when I was growing up, my mom, who is a 150 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: busy doctor. 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: Cokud switch, can you? 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I use it? And now I'm like, do 153 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: I even know definition I would? And I'm probably using 154 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: it wrong, so please correct me. But the way that 155 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: I spoke to my parents or Indian immigrants, uh pretty 156 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: traditional and my grandparents and my Indian family was very 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: different than the way that I talked to my. 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: Teachers and my friends at school. 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: And I had to learn how to do that and 160 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: it was a challenge, but it was also like incredibly 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: valuable skill to learn. As someone who wants to be 162 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: a writer or a performer is like, Okay, I have 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: to act this way around this person, this way around 164 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: these people, and I somehow have to make it in 165 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: both right and by the way, I would see cousins 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: and Indian children of friends of the family who just 167 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: weren't able to do it as much. And I remember 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: being like, I really want to succeed at both. I 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: want my teachers to love me and to be well 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: liked at school, even if nobody wants to date me, 171 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: and I want my parents to think I'm a good kid. 172 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: And I didn't always succeed, but because I had to 173 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: learn that kind of sophisticated tool early on, I think 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: that was really helpful as a writer, and I think 175 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: as someone who could be someone about an ability to 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: make friends, and so it was a real really felt 177 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: like an outsider all the time, and it helped me. 178 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: Like when you're a comedy writer, so much of your 179 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: life is observing things and noticing that things are like 180 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: in the office, like just noticing things that are ironic 181 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: and strange and then heightening it for a TV show, 182 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: And so I was doing that constant. 183 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: It's amazing because I do think the skill set developed to. 184 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Be able to Christian Lubita is standing behind Madame. 185 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: So glamorous. 186 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: Hi, I haven't seen you were too long, Bruce. 187 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean the King is here. We're doing a glamorous 188 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: We're doing a lunch. It's been way too long, Christian, 189 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. 190 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: I can't believe you're friends with Christian Lubaiton. By the way, 191 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: I've been mince pronouncing his name. Can you say it again, 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: Christian Lubitan Okay, that's makes me feel bad. And aren't 193 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: you so happy that I didn't ask for free shoes. 194 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: In front of you? 195 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: I say, that's a missed opportunity. 196 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: God damn it. Okay, I'm going to go over there. 197 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: Excuse me, sir, I met you two minutes ago. 198 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: Wait, you know what, what's your size? 199 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm not saying my shoes. Send them over there, fetishists. 200 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: I have enough enough. 201 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the table for two. 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: Recently, Mindy has been involved in the roy Bowl film 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: and television production act, spearheaded by George Clooney, Grant Heslow, 204 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: my partner, Brian Lord, and many others. The Roybal School 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: exists to create opportunities in the entertainment world for students 206 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: from underrepresented communities. I wanted to know what drew Mindy 207 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: to the school, So let's talk a little bit about 208 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: the Royball School. You know, so George Clooney and a 209 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: Mall and Mindy and Brian really heads of so they 210 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: got together and realized that there was something lacking here 211 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. 212 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: Brian, Brian and Grant and George. 213 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: It's your it's your story to tell, but it's really important. 214 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, thank you for characterizing it like that. 215 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: I'll really say. 216 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: It was a phone call from Brian where he said, hey, 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you about something. It's actually 218 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: about education. And I said, oh, that's interesting. You know 219 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: from Brian to hear that, and I know that Brian 220 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 3: is so philanthropically minded, but I hadn't, you know, I'd 221 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: only known him as like an agent, and so it's great. 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: He's like, can you do a zoom. 223 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: With George and Grant and and they'll be we'll probably 224 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: be in like lake come up or it was like 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: absolutely absolutely, well right, And so I get on a 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: zoom with them and you are dear friends with George, 227 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: and he is I don't. I didn't. I think I 228 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: met him like once like an award show that I 229 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: had known, but what I I had known of course, 230 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: because there's like George Colney that we all hear about 231 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: where he is, wants to help in Haiti and Syria, 232 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: and you know he's all in the Sudan, like he's 233 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: that guy. 234 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: But when I saw this idea, it felt it was so. 235 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: Brilliant and I can't believe it hadn't been done yet, 236 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: which is like we are in Hollywood. We have we 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: to hire crews and shows, and they are historically pretty 238 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: traditional looking and it's usually like if you look at 239 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: a crew on most shows, it's predominantly white. 240 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: And that's that it was built and. 241 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: Pronominantly met and it's you know, with some exceptions. And 242 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: I think that for someone like me, where my entire 243 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: career is built on this idea that we're trying to 244 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: showcase voices that don't get seen, it's disappointing when you 245 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time with your writers and your 246 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: actors feeling that I'm making it diverse, but you're the 247 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: crew hasn't sort of caught up, and there's all these 248 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: underserved voices who really want to break into the business 249 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: and don't know how. 250 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: And so George was explaining this, I was. 251 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: Like nodding, and Grant and Brian were explaining this, and 252 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: they had this idea of what if we did a 253 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: public high school in LA that trained kids to have 254 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: these jobs, Like why can't a kid who's going to 255 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: high school in LA go on to become an extremely 256 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: well paid, union protected hairstylist, grip someone who works in 257 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: special effects, you know, so a script coordinator. And I 258 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: thought it was such a brilliant idea. And honestly, I 259 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: come at these kinds of things. Anything I think of 260 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: in sort of like altruistically or philanthropically, I always think 261 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: of like will it work business wise? Like is this 262 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: going to actually work as a businesswoman? And Hollywood is 263 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: not a nonprofit right, and so I want someone that 264 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: actually is going to work and will actually make my 265 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: job easier to produce shows, not just a charity. 266 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: And that's what I really responded to. 267 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: This is a really really good business idea, a school 268 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: that would every year when people graduate, I'm Inndy Haaling 269 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: go to the school and say, wonderful, there's someone to 270 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: work in the production design office, someone to help, you know, 271 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: a costume designer, if not a costume designer themselves, and 272 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: hair makeup. And I was like, this will be amazing 273 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: because we get scrutinized and we should be scrutinized about 274 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: our crews and how they look. And so he explained 275 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: this to me. It seems brilliant and I love being 276 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: a part of it. And I will say, of the 277 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: many things I work on, it's the one thing where 278 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: literally Brian or George tell me to show up someplace 279 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: and I will just show up, and they are the 280 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: brains behind the operation. 281 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: If I can come and meet the. 282 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: Secretary of Education or you know, talk to the superintendent 283 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: and tell them why I would hire people from them, 284 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: that's what I do. But like they're doing the lion's 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: share of the work and I am showing up. 286 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: Another thing that happens with these kids is when you know. 287 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: They are fully embraced and they graduate and they they 288 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: are placed. They are in a world that they would 289 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: never be able to be a part of. 290 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: And one of the things, one of the things that. 291 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: You do is you know, you paved a way so 292 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: epically without those lines in play, so for them to 293 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: see you and to when you go to the class 294 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: on a given Wednesday afternoon and there's no cameras and 295 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: there's no stuff, and you're saying, you're telling your story, 296 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: it's monumental. 297 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: I mean that is so nice. You know, people talk 298 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: about representation so much. Yeah, and it sort of like 299 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: if you can't see it, you can't be it. And 300 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: so if I can be part of that or show 301 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: people that you can do that, then that's amazing. I mean, 302 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: what's been so nice is I have an incredible costume 303 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: designer named Salvador Perez who is Latino and he's gay, 304 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: and you got an Emmy nomination for one of my 305 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: shows and he started working with roybal and I think 306 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: that's really meaningful. 307 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: He's born and raised in La Yes. 308 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: You know, like he is Mexican American, and he has 309 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: gotten to the highest level of costume design and it 310 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: hasn't been for him and he is so groundbreaking. And 311 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: to be able to be the person that connects him 312 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: to the school so people can see that, I'm going 313 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: to be like, he's a great life, Like he makes 314 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: good money, he's around interesting, fun people all day. 315 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 316 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: You know, my drawings that I do and the sewing 317 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: that I do, they don't just have to be like 318 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: little doodles that I do before I go do whatever 319 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: job I'm supposed to do, you know. And so I 320 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: think that's exciting. I think it'll be really great when Yeah, 321 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: it'll be. 322 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Graduate. 323 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I really want to stress, however, that 324 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: that is this project is completely the brilliant George Glee product, 325 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: and it is George and Grant and Brian, and I 326 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: feel lucky to just be part of it. 327 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: Come and speak about why it's important to me. But 328 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: it is. 329 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: Truly, it is truly them, and I feel like blessed 330 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: to be part of it. 331 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: And I hear George, Okay, they might have been the 332 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: engine that is going to. 333 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Be like I show up more than you done, Cheetle, 334 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: really able scrudges. I can't have done hittle mamie. 335 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Right when the industry sort of like kind of exploded, 336 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, with the idea of hey, there's not proper representation, 337 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: women are not being properly respected. 338 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: You stood in the front of the line too. That's ballsy. 339 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a challenge when you're trying to start 340 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: a company, have at work, be successful, not this one 341 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: hit wonder where you're like in some magazine articles one 342 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: year and then two years later people have moved on. Yeah, 343 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: and also be a role model and someone who stands 344 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: up for something I am still learning, Like every day. 345 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: It's like I look at people a Kerrie Washington, Ava 346 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 3: DuVernay who are incredible, Maha, you know very well, and 347 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: they're so politically engaged and also like, you know, Maha 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: and Carrie have kids, and literally look at them and 349 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, how. 350 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: Do you do this? 351 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: Because it's you know, the truth is and I'm still learning. 352 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: This is like I got into the business when I 353 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: was you know, when I was dreaming of doing this 354 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen, nineteen years old. I wanted to do this 355 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: so that I could like write comedy shows and be 356 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: on Saturday Night Live and be super successful and famous 357 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: and funny and have everyone want to be like me 358 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: and be rich and famous in all those things. 359 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: I didn't go into being like how do I change 360 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: the status quo? 361 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: Like I just wasn't that person and I'm not proud 362 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: of it. But that's the truth, right, And I think 363 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: that evolving from someone who's like, if you're going to 364 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: make it as a comedy writer or make it on TV, 365 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: it's like you have to have this singular focus that 366 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: is kind of exceeds your talent, right. It means it's 367 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: more important than your talent and your belief in yourself. 368 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: So then when you shift into this thing, when you're 369 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 3: suddenly an employer and you're like, oh, like, I am 370 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: not just this artist who wants to make it big 371 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: anymore and make an artistic statement and be have everyone 372 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: adore me like it would Steve Martin or David Letterman, right, Like, 373 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: I have to be someone who stands for something because 374 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: I don't look like Steve Martin and David Letterman. That 375 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: is a challenge that I face every day. I'm imperfect 376 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: at it. I am always fucking up. I want to 377 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: but now it's like I am held accountable by the 378 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: people who work for me. I'm held accountable by my 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: daughter and my son to a user degree, and so 380 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: it's something that I'm really learning about. There are times, 381 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'm right now, we're in the middle of 382 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: a writer's strike. It's a very complicated issue, your political issue, 383 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: and I pick it. And then we had like a 384 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: South Asian picketing event and you know, I'm like, Okay, 385 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: I got to go to that. I want to turn 386 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: up for my people and show up and know that 387 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: I care. It's like important for me to go because 388 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: the past five years have been so transformative politically, It's 389 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: like there's you can't hide behind anything. You just have 390 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: to like be like what am I standing for? And 391 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: you can't sort of make a private political decisioning where 392 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: you have to be like, well, I'm someone who believes 393 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: that women have been treated abhorrently. 394 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: Even if I've been. 395 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: Sort of lucky, not everyone has been, you know, And 396 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: I think that takes a lot when you're just trying 397 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: to stay afloat funny to be talking about Sex and 398 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: the City because I remember, really, well, that's show. It's 399 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: a comedy show. It's in many ways really aspirational. It's feminist, 400 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: but it's not overtly political, do you know, which is 401 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 3: why I think it was so popular. And yet at 402 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 3: some point Mitchel Patrick Kenny, I don't know how much 403 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: of the how much of the series you've seen, you've 404 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: seen everything, and I've seen everything at least once written okay, good. 405 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: I didn't want to make generalizations to be like, how 406 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: dare you I'm a gay man who has not seen 407 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: Sex and the City. But seeing as you're very good 408 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: friends with Sarah j Justina Harger, yes, as you should be, 409 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: as am I but she was not at the Mecalla 410 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: this year. 411 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: I don't think was she. 412 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: I don't think she was. 413 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: No. 414 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: I love that, You're like so in tune that I'm 415 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: like she was. I don't know why, but I don't. 416 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, because when she goes it's like an event. 417 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: She takes it seriously. It's a responsibility, it's fashion, she's 418 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: making a statement. 419 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: She's one of those people where when I was as 420 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: a little tangent when I was at the office and 421 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: I I loved fashion and would go and look at 422 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: all the photos I'm like getting images were like Elle 423 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: would be like here are the best looks or big 424 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: wild look. 425 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: At the best looks. 426 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: I would as this nerd, this nerdy comedy writer on 427 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: the office who was like I'll never get invited to that. 428 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: Like whatever I would see and her look, you know, 429 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: like she cares so much about the theme and like 430 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: interpreting it to such an artist and it seems like 431 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: a lot of work. 432 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: And I just respected that so much, And you're right, 433 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: she's an artist, and like there was no like when 434 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: she was going like reveal like yeah, very quiet, like 435 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: this is. 436 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: What it is. 437 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just swe and just so her some people 438 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: go and it's. 439 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: About them, and it's about I have arrived, you know whatever, 440 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: and she's like, I'm here in service to a designer. 441 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: I think is really amazing about her because it's not 442 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: always that way. You know, people should have forget about 443 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: the designers, like their moment to be fabulous in a 444 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: kookie costume. But anyway, that was my attendent too. I 445 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: remember really well thinking about in Sex and the City, 446 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: which is not a political show, when they decided to 447 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: do the episode that Carrie had had an abortion. 448 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that, but that. 449 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Was a big deal. 450 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, big deal, right, and really brave and thinking, like, 451 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, I do shows that are all about women. 452 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: I do a show right now, but it's literally called 453 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: the Sex Lives of College Girls. And if those girls 454 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: aren't dealing with girls who are getting abortions then And 455 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: it's nothing that anyone has pressured me to talk about 456 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: or anything, but I'm like, if Carrie Bradshaw, who's the 457 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: most beloved character on a worldwide hit, can say that 458 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: she's had an abortion, like, what does that mean for shows? 459 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: I do? You know? 460 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: And I think it's really cool that they did that. 461 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: I agree in that show I think addressed all those issues. 462 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: They address issues of women being sexual and enjoying sex. 463 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: They address issues. 464 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: Of you know, having children, not having children, and you know, 465 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: so handedly Sarah Jesca Barker and Carrie Bradshaw change downtown 466 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: New York and how people just present themselves in the 467 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: world all of a sudden, you know, women all across 468 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: It is kind of great. 469 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: I'm making this the Sex and City fan podcast. 470 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: I know so much. I love it. 471 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on Table for two. You 472 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: probably know Mindy is the wonderful and hilarious Kelly Kapor 473 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: on the Office, but you might not know that she 474 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: also served as a writer, producer, and director. 475 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious to know more about her time behind the scenes. 476 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: I have to ask for Ava, I mean, I just 477 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: have to know. Do you have a favorite episode? Is 478 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: you have a favorite? 479 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 480 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: So I love talking about the Office and I don't 481 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: get to talk about. 482 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: It that much. 483 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I think I don't know. I don't really 484 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: do podcasts. Is like one of the two podcasts I've 485 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: ever done. 486 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: No, I truly don't. And I love talking about the Office. 487 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I wrote something like twenty four 488 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: or twenty five episodes of the show, and one tin 489 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: of episode that I always would write was I for 490 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: some reason, I wrote a ton of the Christmas episodes. 491 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 492 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: When I was growing up as like a TV addict. 493 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your shows? 494 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: Well, so I was not picky, so I watched everything 495 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: like whatever I could find. So I watched mussy TV 496 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: in the nineties was huge for me, who I kind 497 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: of felt friends. But I also watched like the shows 498 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: that were like in between the hit shows and NBC 499 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: even and they were to kind of have like wings 500 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: or a single guy or you know, or it'd be 501 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: like the brookshul Show. 502 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 5: You know. 503 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: I'd watch everything some season, yes, you know which. Her documentary, 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: by the way, is amazing beyond she's. 505 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: Incredibentor she's survivor everything. Yeah, I really And I was 506 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: in love with her growing up. 507 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was in love with her in 508 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: a gay way too, and who wouldn't be. 509 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: And then she like went to Princeton like she really was. 510 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: She did everything. 511 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: Her husband seems normal, like you know what I mean, 512 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Like she's like her daughters are cool at its from 513 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: the one scene in the documentary, right, But I have 514 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: nothing to remote. So I'm just here promoting documentaries in 515 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: Sex and City. 516 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so you have what you're doing, what we're doing together, 517 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: which I think people that pull up at chure is 518 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: we're having lunch, We're having a conversation, and people don't 519 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: do that anymore. 520 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: So I would recommend that documentary, which was amazing. And 521 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: then did you see the Michael J. Fox documentary? 522 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: Still still loved it, loved it. And I just watched 523 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: Almost Done with the Mary Tyler Moore. 524 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: Oh, I haven't seen that one, Lindy. 525 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: It's great. 526 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: But the Office, So I loved the Christmas episodes and 527 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: here I'm like, I'm not Christian, im hindoo, I've always 528 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: loved Christmas. Uh, it's so cinematic to me exactly. And 529 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: what I love about Christmas episodes in messy TV in 530 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: nineties and the eighties is that there is something where 531 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: when you did a Christmas episode, it could be a 532 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 3: little bit more sentimental, something magical could kind of happen 533 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 3: in the episode because everyone's like sort of in the 534 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: Christmas spirit. And that was true in the Office, like 535 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: we would do these episodes where Michael was often in 536 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 3: a Santa costume and we would because we live in 537 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: la Like, we'd shoot these in August when it's like 538 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: ninety degrees out in the Deep Valley, and they would 539 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: fill it with snow for these exterior shots, since I'd 540 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: write these episodes where they always had to go outside 541 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: because I wanted them to like fill it because the 542 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: show takes place in Pennsylvania, So they fill it with 543 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: snow and we'd just get to be in this sort 544 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: of fake snowy Christmas like paradise for the six to 545 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: seven days that we shot the episode. And so I 546 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: love those episodes because I was deeply homesick for the 547 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: East Coast and it just it sort of was like 548 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: a way for to experience that and sort of have 549 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: NBC you pay for it, And so I love and 550 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: you could also be a little bit more. That show 551 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: was really funny and not very sentimental, and I've felt 552 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: in those episodes we were allowed to be a little 553 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: bit more. 554 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: And you are you surprised sort of like the new 555 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: audience that keeps being birthed and appreciates this timeless from 556 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, you were telling these stories, You're writing twenty 557 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: four to twenty five episodes. 558 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: These are resonating with I am surprised. 559 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: I am surprised because not too much, because I love 560 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: the show and the writing staff. You know, almost everyone 561 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: who I worked with for like my favorite seasons like 562 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: season two and three, have gone on to become like 563 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: great showrunners of their own shows and show creators. But 564 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think what I'm surprised about is that 565 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: it was a network show and it felt cool. 566 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that doesn't happen that much anymore. 567 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: You know, there's great network shows, Like there's a couple 568 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: exceptions like ABBT Elementary, which is such a great show, 569 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 3: but they don't tend to feel cool, and there's something 570 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: about that show that feels like now, I think young 571 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: people would be like, oh, that feels like a streaming show, 572 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: which is why I think it made sense that it 573 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: was like on Netflix that people thought, But in terms 574 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: of like how it pushed the envelope, I think it's 575 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: such a great thing that a show that was like that, 576 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: which really demands its audience to be sophisticated, Like you'd 577 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: have this guy who'd say things that were offensive, like 578 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: you know, Michael Scott and Dwight would say things to 579 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: all these protected classes that would offend them and yet 580 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: you knew the audience is who's watching it is like 581 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: knows that they're not inherently bad people. 582 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: They're just flawed and you can contain multitudes. 583 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: And I think that shows now and underestimate audiences being sophisticated, 584 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: but they know that. And so I think one of 585 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: the reasons it's so popular now is it feels sort 586 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: of like dangerous or like I can't believe they're saying that, 587 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: And I miss that about TV, you know, I get 588 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: my shows are about a lot of like horny women 589 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: who like want to have that NBC and find love, 590 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: so we get to push the envelope in a completely 591 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: different way. But it's that feels like I hope we 592 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: can get to a time where studios feel less afraid 593 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: about because the audiences I think are really smart. 594 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: I agree and can handle it. 595 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: Yes, you don't watch that with Eva and you're like, Okay, 596 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: now we have to go a conversation about how Michael 597 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: Scott is someone who does microaggressions and like, you get. 598 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: It, she's smart. She knows like you completely don't be 599 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: like him, and. 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't even want me in the room. 601 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: You know. It's so funny we talked about the Officers, 602 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: about six and the City, We talk about friends, we 603 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: talk about the shows. Seinfeld talk about these shows that 604 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: like they hit with people so specifically because they're you know, 605 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: based on like real situation, real life situations that are 606 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: ever great. So yeah, what I also love about all 607 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: these shows is a lot of it all takes place 608 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: prior to people looking at their phones. 609 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's all about human I mean. 610 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about like Legally Blond, 611 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: you have the stuff going on now, so leg Levon, 612 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, Reese door Rees. We don't want any spoilers, 613 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: but like where's you know, al going, Like what do 614 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: you guys, what's going on there? 615 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: So I love that project obviously now we sort of 616 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: have pencils down because of the writer's strike, but it's 617 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: had a couple iterations over the past couple of years, 618 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: and I think it's it's it's a challenging project because 619 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: of the same reasons what makes it so great, which 620 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: is like this is like ell Woods, is like Reese's 621 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: Avenger character, and people feel so passionately about this, like 622 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm just someone who's coming in to write co write 623 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: the third movie and even I see how excited people 624 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: are and what is Ellwood's doing in twenty twenty three, 625 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four when culture has changed so much since then, 626 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: And so that's tricky as a writer that you know, 627 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: writing something that is incredibly funny is a great role 628 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: for Reese, but is saying something about feminism now, And 629 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: so we've just been trying to nail it. And she's 630 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: so busy, and I'm pretty busy, but it most like 631 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: she is and she's shooting shows, movies and everything else. 632 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: So there isn't this sense from her that she's like 633 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: in any way like she loves the character and wants 634 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: to do it if it's like exactly right. But she 635 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: has no there's not like any kind of like desperation 636 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: or anxiety about getting back into the role. 637 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: So it's been taking some time. 638 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that you're you're involved. 639 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: I could talk to Mindy all day, but unfortunately all 640 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: meals must come to an act. I wonder what's next 641 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: for her, But Mindy has another topic and one of 642 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: my favorites on her mind. So as we sort of 643 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: like conclude our lunch, which has been so amazing, Mindy 644 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: and I. 645 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: Just love it. What do you what summer going to 646 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: look like for you? You know what a great question? 647 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: What some are going to look like? 648 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: Well, I just want to say, because you can't see 649 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: this that while Bruce was talking, I was and I'm 650 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: a power eater because I have little kids, so I 651 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: know how to do it fast. But I had half 652 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: of the most delicious steak done medium. 653 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: I don't know why. I'm like, I love hearing about food. 654 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I a ton of tabasco sauce and French fries. 655 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: And then I started off with this eser salad that 656 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: was like one of those delicious ones that had anchovies 657 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: and it was loaded with dressing. 658 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so good. Animasca meal. 659 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean wondering and if I wonder what I had. 660 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: I had gold asparagus chicken breast. 661 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: I saw that I didn't touch because I'm just too 662 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: busy talking, And but it looks delicious. 663 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: I will say, I think my lunch was better than yours. 664 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I think yours was. Are you going to take that home? 665 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of should. Protein is protein. 666 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I can't leave the Sunset Tower with 667 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: a doggie bag from this. I feel like it's not 668 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: a good look. Although I would I would do that 669 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: if you weren't here. This has been so fun. We 670 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: didn't even talk about Andy Cohen. 671 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it. 672 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: I had a lot of shit to say about that guy. 673 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: You know, I really I love him. I mean I 674 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: love him, and I love your guys' old friendship. You're 675 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: a whole friendship. And I know that it's probably going 676 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: to be a book or a TV show or documentary 677 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: or something one day. But I think it's amazing to 678 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: have old friends. It's like, there's not that's not that common. 679 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know, it is a bit of 680 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: a Lucy Ethel sort of friendship, and it is where 681 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: we're just so connected and we read each other and 682 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I've spoke to him before and he knows I was 683 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: sitting here with you and he was super excited. 684 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: And you know, you can't make old friends. 685 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, we saw each other through our twenties and 686 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: thirties and forties and fifties and parenthood. 687 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: So I mean, I think one thing that La does 688 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: is there's a thing that you get more successful where 689 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: you start losing old At least I've been guilty of this. 690 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: You start losing old friends because they start to piss 691 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: you off because they call you on stuff and you're like, 692 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: this is uncomfortable. I just want to be my new 693 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: friends who don't call me accountable. And so when people 694 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: have old friends, yeah, it's I think a really good 695 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: sign of your character and him in particular, you know. 696 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: Special Guy's Mindy. I'd like to see more of you 697 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, LA. Just one of those cities where 698 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: like we all have the kind of the intent. But yeah, 699 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: for some reason, it's hard. 700 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: Well, I'm also an introvert too. I'm okay, introvert. 701 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: We could pull but do small, okay with Brian at 702 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: the house, Brian. 703 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: And Andy Cullen and George, you. 704 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: Know, just a small group. That's so if you're listening, 705 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: that's fine. 706 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper, okay, just a small Jeff Bezos and laur 707 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: intentions just you know. 708 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: That's an easy group to get together. Yeah, just you know, 709 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: low key peeps. Thank you so much for pulling up 710 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: your chair today. 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