1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian. The customer had just stopped for gas. They 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: went somewhere, they stopped for fuel, went to start it, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: and he said, Ron, there was this big puffet smoke 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: that came out of the right side under the Hoodlike 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: he said, it kind of reminded me of the Wizard 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: of Oz. The Car Doctor, this is an eighty four 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Eldorado with a forty one Caddy motor correct the four 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: point one. The good news is if you can find 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: service information for this vehicle, you can actually diagnose this 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: right through the air conditioning control head. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick. 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Up the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: five p five ninety nine hundred and now. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Running. 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about for MEM. You 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: know what for MEM is right, everybody knows for MEM. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: So for MEMM for MEM, we got to go back 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy eight and the American Space program was 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: in dire straits. We were in the process of shutdown. 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Apollo program was over, and we weren't quite sure, you know, 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: when we were we gonna fly again. The Shuttle wasn't 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: going to launch for a while, and we were laying 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: off aerospace workers. Ford aerospace workers as a matter of fact, 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: and Ford Motor Company, in an effort to keep their 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: engineers employed, went to work for Ford Motor Company, the 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: car company. So we've got a bunch of aerospace engineers 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: working with automobile engineers, and they're trying to design automobiles 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: that will be successful. The first generation of EKE three 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: cars actually is what they were up to, and it 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: later revolved into EKE four e five in the present 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: day will be D two versions EKE being Electronic Engine 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Controls versions three, four, five, and so on. So they 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: developed FORMEM for MEM. I guess the best thing I 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: can make you think about. Remember the movie Apollo thirteen, Houston, 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: we have a problem. Well, they were using backup systems. 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: They used backup systems to get the spacecraft home, sort 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: of the same thing with the cars. For MEM means 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: failure mode effects management, and if you remember anything out 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: of my conversation with you today as we kick off 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: this hour of the Car Doctor's It's for mem. Famem 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: is very important if you're driving and you own a 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Ford product, the various year making model, if you're working 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: on a Ford product, the various year making model, failure mode, 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: effects management. And I don't hear it mentioned a lot anymore. 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: I see glimpses of it in seminars and some of 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: the YouTube videos that I watch on a regular basis, 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: And you know, everybody forgot the story. The idea was 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that if the vehicle suffered some sort of a failure 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: g Apollo thirteen History bus is sound familiar, if the 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: vehicle suffered some sort of a failure, an alternate strategy 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: would be used to operate said vehicle, to get it home, 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: to get it back to Earth or your garage, whichever 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: came first. I tell you this because I ran into 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Famem this week. Oh for Mercury, Grand Marquis, Ford, CROWNVIC, 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: same thing, right, different badge, different side of the assembly line. 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Came into the shop. It was running pig rich on 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: the left side. Bank two. It was running negative twenty 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: percent short term fuel trim on the left side of 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the motor driver's side of the motor passenger side of 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: the motor was even fuel trim it it was fairly 65 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: close to what it should be, zero plus or minus 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: five percent. It never really took off. It wasn't like 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: exact opposites. See if it was exact opposites, that would 68 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: have made it easy for me. If it was exact opposite, 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, right away, I'm thinking, I've got a breathing problem. 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Do I have a timing chain that jumped the tooth? 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Do I have a restricted exhaust on the left sid 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: side of the motor? But I didn't. I had it 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: was if I had two four cylinder engines. I was 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: looking at a good operating bank one the right side 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: and a bad operating left side the driver's side. So 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: as I went through diagnosis, nothing made sense, and I 77 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: watched everything very closely, and I kind of agonized over 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: this because it's been a while since I ran into 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: one of these. You know, I always say that when 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: you're training and educating yourself as a technician, that you 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: prepare for the worst, right, you prepare for World War three, 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: You hope you never have to fight it, because you're 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: looking for small skirmishes here and there because they're easier, 84 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: more efficient, and you get to move the day along 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: and get the car in and out of the shop. 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: This car was World War three. This car would not 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: show me what it really want, what I really wanted 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: to see, and it really wouldn't show me. You know, hey, 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: this is this is where it hurts. I had to 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: keep looking for it. So so I went through basics, right, 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, I stopped treating the symptom and I started 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: diagnosing the car. Just tell me what you know is good, 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's bad. I looked at timing chain. Well, 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: the timing chain I knew was in sync. This is 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: a dual overhead chain motor, you know, left side, right side, 96 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: two chains, and I knew the left side was good because, 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: as it turned out, there is a CAM sensor in 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: the left side of this engine. And looking at the 99 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: scan tool a pit which is the parameter of data, 100 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the piece of data that you look at when we 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: look at two sensor values, or you know, is the 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: cam in sync? And all that it said yes, and 103 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: I had to agree. I had to follow that. I 104 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: didn't get any cam sensor fault. 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: It was. 106 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: There was multiple ways they were checking it, and it 107 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: showed me consistently the CAM sensor or the timing chain 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: via cam sensor, CAM and crank sensor actually was okay. 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a back pressure test because I 110 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: was curious, did I have a problem with exhaust back 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: pressure creating an issue and skewing the left side O 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: two censor. And the reason I came to that conclusion 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: was because I ran the car, got it hot, put 114 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: it up in the air, left it running, and I 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: started shooting the exhaust with my thermal imager. Now, the 116 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: right side thermal imager, the passenger side, and I just 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: picked similar points, was about four hundred and ten degrees 118 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: at the cat inlet the right I'm sorry, the left side, 119 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the driver's side of the vehicle was about one hundred 120 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: degrees hotter, same point, Jee, that's kind of weird. Why 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: is it one hundred degrees warmer? Well, it could be 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: where were we were running so rich for whatever reason 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: that we're we're or we're running so lean for whatever reason, 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: because we're pulling fuel away negative twenty percent that you know, 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: more oxygen in the mix creates a hotter fire. Right, 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: we see the fire go up when we fan a 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: fire in the fireplace, same idea. I couldn't get the 128 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: two censor out. That was problems. It's frozen in the manifold, 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to create a problem with breaking 130 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: it just jet. I didn't want to get that deep 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: into it because that's a point of no return. I 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: had to get to the point of, hey, I've got 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: to pull this two centsor so, I've got to check 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: some other things. Let's see. I could have I could 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: have it. I'm thinking about it. I could have I 136 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: could have leaky injector on the left side creating a problem. 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: And it's easy enough to swap injectors on this motor. 138 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: It's about twenty minutes, maybe thirty on the outside once 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: you do it the first time, and I did. I 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: swapped injectors, ran the same left side negative twenty percent, 141 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: trying to pull away twenty percent of its fuel base. 142 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Right side was three percent positive fuel trim. Short term, 143 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: eventually the left side will count up, by the way, 144 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: and it did. It would count up and continue to 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: count and get the twenty five percent fuel trim, and 146 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: then it would bang it. It would move long term 147 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: fuel trim. A couple of notches and then work its 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: way back up and eventually long term fuel trim for 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: the left side of the engine, we'll get to negative 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: twenty percent, and then the two short term fuel trims 151 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: match because one long terms at negative twenty and the 152 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: other ones at zero or plus one didn't my usual 153 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, due diligence, move the injectors. Nothing still wouldn't 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: show me what was up with it. And I started 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: thinking about some of the other things that are on 156 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: a scan tool, and I started looking through all the PIDs, 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of information Ford will 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: give you. I will say that this particular car by 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: rough Count gave me over four hundred pieces of information, 160 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: four hundred different data pits that I had to look 161 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: at and make a determination, you know, what to see 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: and what do I want to concentrate and focus on. 163 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: And it turned out that one of the things that 164 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: caught my eye, and this was after I went back 165 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: to school this week. I spoke to Chris over at 166 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: Opus IVS. He's the Ford guru over there, and we 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: kicked this around and we talked about when it goes 168 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: into limp mode, as he called it, I call it 169 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: from them, all right, and that it went into closed 170 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: loop And did I have closed loop fault because there's 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: actually a pit. There's actually a piece of data in 172 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: the scan tool that Ford will tell you if you 173 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: look at closed loop operation for my texts out there, 174 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: and you'll see closed loop fault. Yes or no. No 175 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: means it doesn't see a problem, and that means it's 176 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: actually using everything it's got. Yes means there's an issue 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: with something in the vehicle's operation that it won't allow 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: correct closed loop operation, meaning it won't listen to its 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: sensors for fuel delivery and fuel control and emission controls. 180 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: It's going to run a prefixed program. I caught this 181 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: car because it doesn't happen like that. It's not a switch. 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: It'll take anywhere from three to eight to twelve minutes. 183 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: And I'll elaborate on this in a minute that it 184 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: takes a while for it to fall into this failure. 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I drove this car. I came in on Thursday, and 186 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: that's when I caught it. I drove this car as 187 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: it sat. I watched the fuel trims go crazy as 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: they were. I brought it back, I put it up 189 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: in the air. I disconnected the right side fuel trim, 190 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry the right side. OH two sensor the 191 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: good side, the alleged good side. Because there's also the argument, 192 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: how do I know? How do I know what's telling 193 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: me the truth? 194 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: Here? 195 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: What's honest and what's not? I disconnected the right side 196 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: O two sensor drove the car within three minutes. I 197 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: saw the car go into famem. I saw the car 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: have a closed loop fault. I saw fuel trims match 199 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: each other's side to side. Both banks went negative twenty percent. 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: This car was saying, hey, there's a problem. It was 201 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: now calculating off of the left side O two sensor. 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: It was now saying, hey, we're gonna run the car 203 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: according to the left side. We don't care what the 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: right side saying. It's disconnected or it's sending out a 205 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: signal that doesn't make any sense. We don't see any 206 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: response when we change fuel trim on the right side, 207 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: So we're only going to trust the left side. We're 208 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: going to trust the left side booster pack to get 209 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: the spaceship home, if you will. I did the same thing. 210 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: I brought it back in. Did a cam reset A 211 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: cam as a keep alive memory reset. It's basically resetting 212 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: the PCM's look up tables, data tables, clearing codes, clearing 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: fuel trim values, telling it it has to learn all 214 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: over again. Did that disconnected? The left side reconnected, the 215 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: right side, took it for a ride. This is where it 216 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: got interesting. It took nine minutes the for the car 217 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: to finally go into fameen, for the car to finally 218 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: have a closed loop fault, which tells me the right 219 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: side sensor has priority. The right side sensor is the 220 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: one that it looks at hardest for making a decision 221 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: about foremen, because it went in in half the time. 222 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm driving around in failure mode, as it were, and 223 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm watching the tool, watching the tool, 224 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: watching the tool. I felt, you know, not to date myself, 225 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: but I had just seen this movie and it popped 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: into my head. I was just watching an old version, 227 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, remember having a Costello mete Frankenstein when Abbott. 228 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: When Costello comes in, he says, I saw what I 229 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: saw when I saw it when he first saw the monsters. 230 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: I saw what I saw when I saw it. I 231 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: knew what it was. All of a sudden, I saw 232 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the left side fuel trim go from minus seventeen percent 233 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: to the same as the right side, and it matched 234 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: and everything looked equal. Let me pull over and take 235 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: a pause. When we come back, we'll wrap this up. 236 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm running ending in the car. Doctor, don't go anywhere. 237 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five 238 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you 239 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: really need advice on your car. 240 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: Here's rober Hey, welcome back. So where were we? 241 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 242 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the famem right, Apollo thirteen coming home on the 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: former or grahamore key. So I'm at the point where 244 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: I now am proving that I can put this vehicle 245 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: into famem Why is that so important? Well, something I 246 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: had done prior to unplugging the two sensors to see 247 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: what would happen and would it switch? I had done 248 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a ve test, volumetric efficiency test. And this is a 249 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: fairly easy test. You've heard me talk about calculated load. 250 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: This is like a calculated load test on steroids. You're 251 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: looking at RPM, mass, airflow, intake, air temp, barometric pressure, 252 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: all right, and you're doing it pretty much similar to 253 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: a calculated load test. And then there's various calculators out 254 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: on the web that you can use. There's various plug 255 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: in calculators. Is also if you want to do the math, 256 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: if you want to be a little geeky about it, 257 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: you can go in and plug in the math and 258 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: relive high school all over again. But the bottom line 259 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: is it will show you engine efficiency and how well 260 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: it breathes. This vehicle had an eighty nine percent ve test. 261 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: It ran consistently well, all right. So it also made 262 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: me say, well, man, man, you know I don't I 263 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: don't see this as a catalytic converter issue. And that's 264 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: what brought me to the unplugging the O twos because 265 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I knew timing chain was good. So now where do 266 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: I go? Well, I got to get that O two 267 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: censor out and that's gonna be Monday's job or Tuesday's job. 268 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: I gotta get approval from the customer first. You see, 269 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you run into brick walls with repairing a car. 270 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: But it's not the car. Sometimes it's the car. Sometimes 271 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: you gotta wait, you gotta get the go ahead, right, 272 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: it's you've got to be told that, yeah, okay, let's 273 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: make this commitment. And why is that Because if that 274 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: O two doesn't come out of that manifold, this twenty 275 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: year old car with this original LO two censor at 276 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: sixty six thousand miles. It's going to be a problem 277 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: because if the manifold should somehow tear up its threads 278 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: with the sensor as it releases, and we're hoping it doesn't, 279 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: getting the manifold off is going to be even worse 280 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: because the nuts are so weathered. It'll be a YouTube 281 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: video when I take the tenplate tool out and start 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: drilling holes out of the out of the cylinder head 283 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: in order to get the manifold off. Sometimes when you're 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: fixing the car, the answer isn't obvious. Sometimes the answer 285 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense. Sometimes you have to justify why 286 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: you have to go to the next step. But I'll 287 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: tell you this, I now know where I'm at. I've 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: either got a bad O two, I've got a skewed 289 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: O two meaning it's biased, meaning instead of its range 290 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: starting from zero to one vault, it might be a 291 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: negative trimming O two starting it negative two tents of 292 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: a vault going up to positive eight tents of a vault. 293 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: In other words, it's zero point has shifted or could 294 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: have shifted one way or the other. We don't really know. 295 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: That yet I can do a vacuum leak and a 296 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: pro paine test. I don't consider that's going to be 297 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: accurate in this case. I'm not going to go there 298 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: unless I have to. I'm trying to get this so 299 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: two out and I just wanted to prove to the point. 300 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: But for them exists, and if you're not aware of 301 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: it when you're diagnosing a Ford product, you'll miss it entirely. 302 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: So I challenge you learn to look at all the PIDs, 303 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: learn to look at all the pieces of information that 304 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: are there, because it's not just well, there's no codes 305 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: and fuel trim is good or bad, and that's all 306 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I can look at. There's a lot of information and 307 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: scan tools if you learn where to look, and a 308 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of it is looking at good vehicles and then 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: looking at bad vehicles and storing your information. 310 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: You know. 311 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: That's why there's a print button or a graphing button 312 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: or a store it in memory button, because it's so 313 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: much more than just well, I've got no codes. It's 314 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: not telling me anything. Jef've got missfires, which this vehicle 315 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: did have a couple of misfires. Oh, let's put spark 316 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: plugs in it. It must be ignition. No, it's not ignition. 317 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, the spark plugs are new there within 318 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: eight months old. So be aware that when they talk 319 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: about diagnosing, I always think of Einstein. Right, what did 320 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein say? He said, you know, he said something 321 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: to the effect. There's a Albert Einstein quote somewhere where 322 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: he's captured as saying, listen, you know, research is all 323 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: part of the work we do. And if you're afraid 324 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: to do your own research, then consider mine, because trust me, 325 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: my problems are much greater than yours. And he was 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: trying to say that everybody does research. It's a necessary 327 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: part of who we are, whether you're an electrician, a plumber, 328 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: a mechanic, a nuclear scientist, a physicist. Right, everybody is 329 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: research and you just have to accept the fact that 330 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: it's part of the day. The answers don't always fall 331 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: out right in front of you, And you know, that's 332 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: where we were. So it was that kind of a 333 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: week in the shop. Right, then maybe I'll tell you 334 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: the story about the one Taurus with the misfire and 335 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: cylinder five and the end of the spark bug that 336 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: fell up, because sometimes they're just that easy. But when 337 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: we come back. We're going to open up the phone 338 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: lines because the phones are lit up, and I appreciate 339 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: you guys being there. By the way, the phone number 340 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: should give that out eight five to five five six 341 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero eight five five five six 342 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running ending of the car, doctor. 343 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go back. 344 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Ron's in his own the AutoZone studio and he'll be 345 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: back right after this. Welcome back to the AutoZone studio. 346 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: Here's Ron. 347 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Hey, let's get over to Connecticut and talk to Dan. 348 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Or Dan and talk to Connecticut. It's gotta be you, 349 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: gotta be one of the other. What's going on? Brother? 350 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Thanks for waiting, Ron, how are you? I'm good. 351 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: Love the show listen every week. 352 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: Thank you. 353 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: I try to be thorough here. My daughter got a 354 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen Jeep Compass. She bought it from Carmacks and 355 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: the year after she bought it, they had to put 356 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: a new engine in. Carmacks didn't want nothing to do 357 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: with it. It had to go through the warranty at 358 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: the dealer. She wouldn't let me involved in that. Anyways. 359 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: She had she got an oil change about a month 360 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: ago at Firestone. For a couple of weeks the car 361 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: was good. All of a sudden started leaking in the driveway. 362 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: She brought it back there. They couldn't find nothing. Didn't 363 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 4: leak for about a week. Then one night she came 364 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: home it was leaking. I got under there and I 365 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: could tell it was coming from the filter. Okay, so 366 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: called them up, they said, but but it was a 367 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: there was oil in it. I checked it, called them up, 368 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: could bring it up there. It was leaking like a 369 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: like a pipe broke. And once she started driving it 370 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 4: up there, it stopped leaking. But anyway she got it 371 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 4: up there. They I don't know what the heck they 372 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: did if they put a new filter in. Anyways, they stopped, 373 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: stopped it. And he said that it may be an 374 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: old oil filter housing, that it may be a common thing. 375 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Right now, it's not leaking, so so so I wonder that, Yeah, 376 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: this is this is a four cylinder, right Dan? Or 377 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: is this the same? 378 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: It's a four cylinder four by four okay. 379 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: And this has the oil filter housing. This has the 380 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: cartridge insert that goes inside the It goes inside the 381 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: filter housing, the plastic housing. This is a screw in 382 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: is a screw on filter? 383 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, I was under there, so they had 384 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: a yellow one on that. 385 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: So this is a two point four leader. This is 386 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the four cylinder. Yeah, okay, so filter housing, I haven't 387 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: seen filter. There's the the filter is the housing. I'm 388 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: confused by his statement. That doesn't that doesn't he. 389 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: Said the oil filter housing is independent. That's the engine. 390 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what he was talking about either. 391 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Right, But isn't this a screw on filter? Isn't this 392 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: a screw on filter that it screws onto the it 393 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: screws onto the side of the engine. 394 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: What's underneath? 395 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it's it's external. This is an external 396 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: oil filter that threads onto a nipple coming out of 397 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: the side of the engine. Right. I think I think 398 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: the gentleman is confused about what engine he thinks this 399 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: geep has. I think he's thinking it's a V six 400 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: because the V six has the plastic housing that's down 401 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: in the belly between the cylinder heads under the intake 402 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: that is prone to leaking, and you know that's a 403 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: known issue. All right, But you know my comment, My 404 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: comment is I'm going to say that I think he's 405 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: thinking this has the wrong filter, you know, so they 406 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: change the filter. I could buy that it's a filter. 407 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: I've seen more than a few film lately. I'm telling 408 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you the quality of filters, that we have a filter problem. 409 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Is what I'm trying to go the long way around 410 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: the barn to tell you is we have a filter 411 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: problem right now in the industry. That a if you 412 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: can get them, you're grateful, and be you're paying way 413 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: too much money for him because everything has gone up 414 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: thirty to forty percent in the world of filters. It's 415 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: just absolutely ridiculous. It didn't help that two years ago 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: two of the major filter manufacturers in the world combined, 417 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: and now I think we're instead of like five majors, 418 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: were down to three majors and they're still fighting. And 419 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: the marketplace, well, we still have shortages, as they claim 420 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: as a result of the pandemic. But I don't understand 421 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: that it was so long ago at this point from 422 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: my perspective. But yeah, there's a filter problem, and we're 423 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: seeing the quality of the filters that are out there 424 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: just not great. So, yeah, could this have just had 425 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: a bad oil filter on it? Sure, anything's possible, you know, 426 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: But if it's not leaking now to me, the proper 427 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: way that somebody should have repaired that. First of all, 428 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care whether it was Firestone, Goodyear, 429 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: a tire store, you know, a repair shop. The dealer 430 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: whoever changed the oil should have ge Dan, we're really sorry. 431 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Bring it in right away, Let's look at it, get 432 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: it up in the air, wash it off, Okay, verify 433 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: it's the filter. And I would have as a shop owner, 434 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: I would have spent the fifteen bucks and put a 435 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: dye in the oil on my dime, just to sit 436 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: there so I could sit there and say, hey, you know, 437 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: here's the leaker. No, there is no leak. How do 438 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: I know it's not How do I know it's engine oil? 439 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: How do I know it's not something else? I mean, 440 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: chances are this is engine oil from the sounds of it. 441 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: But don't you have to do something to give customers 442 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: peace of mind? Isn't that still part of the process 443 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: in the ritual today? 444 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: No, Ron, when she took it back the first time, 445 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: I think they did put a die yet, Okay, good good, Yeah, 446 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: I think they did. Yeah, I got to you know, 447 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: be fair here. 448 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely, And I think I think that's the 449 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: right way to do it. Did they So at this point, 450 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: does it still have a leak or it's no more leak? 451 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: No, it's not leaking right now. I just wanted to 452 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: ask if that was a common thing here. No, I 453 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: watch it. 454 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you had a bad metal screw on filter. 455 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I think you had a problem with the way the 456 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: gas gets sealed. It's not uncommon. We're seeing lots of 457 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: filter problems. Like I said, you know, the industry's working 458 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: on it. They're getting better, but filter issues. I'm actually 459 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: seeing quite a few oil filters leaking coming into the 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: shop first time customers that I'm looking at them going 461 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: and I reach up and I give them a twist. 462 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: They're tight. I'll take the filter off, I'll change it, 463 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I'll put on our brand, and the problem is solved. 464 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: And I still can't tell you why. It seems like 465 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: the very cheap oil filters, the fifty dollars filters that 466 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: still seem to plague this industry that are out there 467 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: still leak and they still have issues. Was there a 468 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: second question, Dan. 469 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did say that he thought maybe something like, 470 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 4: you know, underneath the filter there could be warped. That's 471 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: when he mentioned the housing. 472 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's watch it. Yeah, I think he's 473 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: wrong on that. I think he's thinking it's a different Okay, 474 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: I think you're having two separate conversations there. So watch 475 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: it if it doesn't, if it doesn't come back, you're good. Yeah. 476 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: So was there a second comment, Dan? 477 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: Okay? Hey, Yeah, I got a twenty fifteen Dodge Grand Caravan. 478 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Okay. 479 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: I was getting like a noise from the right rear tire, 480 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: like I don't know how to describe it, a squeak 481 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 4: or a squeal or whatever. Took it to my mechanic 482 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 4: and I thought it was a bearing, you know, But 483 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: he said it was the backing plate. He had to 484 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: push it back a little bit, mixed it right, and 485 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: now I'm getting the same thing from the left rear tire. 486 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 487 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: I haven't got a chance to get to him yet 488 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: or call him. Here's you ever hear of that? 489 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the problem. You live in Connecticut. You get 490 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy weather. We throw this thing that 491 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: we throw all this chemical treatment down on the road 492 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: when it snows, it tends to cause the vehicles to rust. 493 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: The rust builds up all over the place. You're starting 494 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: to build up a rust ridge on the inside of 495 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: the backing plate against the road, and as you drive 496 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: it just starts to it makes that rubbing or that 497 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: squeaking noise. Not uncommon. Got to remember, now, Dan, to you, 498 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: that vehicle's new, but to the rest of the world 499 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: it's eight years old. Yeah, yeah, you know, not completely uncommon. Yeah, 500 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: So let him do his thing and you'll be fine. 501 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Let them clean it up. You know, maybe now's the 502 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: time if you're planning to keep it, depending on how 503 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: bad the backing plates are deteriorated or what the rotors 504 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: look like. You know, if the roads are starting to 505 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: rust that badly, maybe it's time to replace brakes based 506 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: on you know, there's a thing you know, you ever 507 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: see a countertop delaminate? I'm dating myself, remember the old 508 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: days when kitchen countertops were formica, and the formica would lift, well, 509 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: brake rotors kind of do the same thing. They would delaminate. 510 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: They'll actually start to that hard machine surface will actually 511 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: fall off the side of the rotor or the rotor 512 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: rots and rusts. So just ask them what kind of 513 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: shape are the rotors themselves in? Not necessarily just the 514 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: outside face of the rotor, but the inside face usually 515 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: the inside face of the christ of the rotors and 516 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: to rotten and rust faster. So you know, it may 517 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: be time for rear breaks, regardless that you have good 518 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: break material, but the rotors themselves may be so badly rusted, 519 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: or it could just be a backing plate issue, all right, sir? 520 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, this same guy he did the breaks 521 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: and rotors on the rear a couple of years ago. 522 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know I'll all that to you know, 523 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: like I said, the the the chemicals we're putting down 524 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: on roads here in the Northeast is crazy. We we 525 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: tend to. I think we over medicate, but that's just 526 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: my opinion. Everybody's got a four wheel drive, all whee 527 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: drive that car. 528 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: You go try to do something with it myself. 529 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: Right, Well, you know what, if you want your mechanic 530 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: to do it, he can do it in his bay. 531 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: If he gets out to Newhampshore Oil Undercoating. I got 532 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: to give him quick mention. Here, New Hampshore Oil Undercoating. 533 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: They've got all kinds of products you can spray on 534 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: and help slow down the rust on that vehicle. It'll 535 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: clean it up and keep it going for a lot 536 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: of years to come. But newhamp Sho oil undercoating makes 537 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: a great product in this case, and it'll help. It'll 538 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: help get rid of that rust, you know, tame it down. 539 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: And thanks all right, sir, you'd be well, Dan. I 540 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. You're very welcome. I'm running aiding the 541 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 542 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: We're running aading the card doctor. Let's go to Arizona 543 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: and talk to Barney. Barney, welcome to board, sir. How 544 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: can I help? 545 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, welcome. We get your show almost a 546 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: full week late. I was listening this morning and you 547 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: had another caller with a suspected oil filter problem. It 548 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: was a fram and you asked him if it was 549 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 5: possible as a counterfeit filter, and he after replacing it, 550 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: he had engine trouble. And it's kind of funny that 551 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: previous call was also about possible bad filters, and I 552 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 5: wanted to comment on his last week. And there's an 553 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: easy way to find out if it could have been 554 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: a filter problem where you just don't throw it away. 555 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: I used to have a chain of autoparts stores here 556 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 5: in Tucson, and even brand new filters. If there were 557 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 5: an off band, OR'd get a second line, I'd cut 558 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 5: them open. It's really easy, even if it's used. You 559 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 5: drain it and put some solvent in and rinse it out, 560 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: and then you can just trim off the can with 561 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 5: a tin snip and you can easily see if the 562 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 5: thing has failed. We used to get cheap filters actually 563 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 5: had a string tied around the filter medium because it 564 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: was pretty light duty and that would prevent it from 565 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: bulging and possibly rupturing. But you can see what kind 566 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: of quality of filmilter is after you cut the can off, 567 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 5: see if the pleats are straight, oh whatever other kind 568 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: of uh interior it Scott and you can even in 569 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 5: the fram situation, you can get a known fram filter 570 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 5: and spend a few bucks, but it's sure cheaper than 571 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: a blown engine. 572 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Sure and compare it, Yeah, you bat and compare it. Yeah, Barney, 573 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: you're a man after my own heart. I remember you 574 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: know I've been doing this. It sounds like we're we've 575 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: both been in this business the same amount of time 576 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: that I. 577 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 578 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: I used to you know, when the new when the 579 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: filter salesman came in, I'd always ask him Okay, let 580 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: me see your filter cut open, and I'm gonna cut 581 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: open one of mine, and what I'm using now kidding? 582 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was very and you know, we'd count pleats, 583 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: we'd look at diameter, we'd look at filter medium, we'd 584 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: and listen. Every once in a while if I had 585 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: a new filter line, and I was I was always 586 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: very judgmental. I don't, I didn't, I didn't, I have 587 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: not and do not jump vendor or ship or brand 588 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: unless I have very good reason. You know, the problem is, 589 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: it takes a long time to get my fuse lit. 590 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: But the length of the fuse is long, and when 591 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: it's lit, it's over. You know, it's you got a 592 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: lot to screw up. But once you do, you're gone. 593 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: And I would every once in a while, even with 594 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: a new vendor. Yeah six months in eight months in 595 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I'd cut open a filter. So am I still getting 596 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: the same filter that I was originally signed on? 597 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 598 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Just you know. 599 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 5: You're talk kind of bait and switch. 600 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look at the world we live in. It 601 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: got worse. I never had it happen with a filter. 602 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: I've had it happen with some other things that I 603 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: caught that I would throw the vendor out that and 604 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: happened often. You know, Pop always taught me. I remember 605 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: as a kid, my father always said, you know, Ron, 606 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: there's only one chance to make a mistake, and in 607 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: an airplane you only get it at ten thousand feet. 608 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: I never forgot that, so I because my dad was 609 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: an airline mechanic during the war and the later years 610 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: until he became a carpet salesman, which is a whole 611 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: nother family story. But you know, it's you got to 612 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: look at everything. You're responsible for everything. You got to 613 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: look at everything. And that's the business, you know exactly. 614 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: Yep. 615 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to get new product lines in a 616 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: surprising I've been out of the business. I sold my 617 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: three stories eighteen years ago. 618 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so congratulations, you're my hero. You made money, you 619 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: got out, so you know. 620 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: It was a It was a glorious day, Ron, Yeah, 621 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 5: it really was. Listen, Reed stores and I sold all 622 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: my parts on the same day. 623 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, Barney, the business has changed so much. Listen. 624 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock and I gotta go, But 625 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: you called me back another day. I'd left to chat 626 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: with you for twenty minutes on air because I'm sure 627 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: you've got some great odo port stories of selling things 628 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: over the years. So do that, Barney, call us back and. 629 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 5: Let's I started turning wrenchers on old VW. So Tom's 630 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 5: got my number, You're welcome to give me a. 631 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have Tom. I'm gonna have Tom 632 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna have Tom get a hold of 633 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: you and we'll we'll set up a conversation in the 634 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: coming weeks and we could kind of chew chew the fat. 635 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure it was back in the sixties 636 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: and the seventies, how the business has evolved and changed. 637 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: You'd be well, Barney, I'm unning naming the car Doctor. 638 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back. 639 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: We'ren named the card Doctor. Real Quick. Eight by five 640 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero is the phone 641 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: number that numbers on all the time. Eight five five 642 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Beginning this week, 643 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: Wednesday nights, we're gonna start taping call. So if you've 644 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: got a question midweek and you can't wait till the weekend, 645 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: if you call eight five five five six zero nine 646 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: nine zero zero, just leave a message and we'll put 647 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: you in the queue. We're gonna begin taping calls seven 648 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time and get some calls in the can 649 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: and we can get them up on air. This way, 650 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: everybody benefits from it. So we're gonna try this for 651 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: a while and see if it works, because we hear 652 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Hey, Ron, I need to 653 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: talk to you. It's Tuesday, it's Wednesday, it's Thursday, Thursday. 654 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: You're waiting until Saturday. But Tuesday you can still get 655 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: a hold of me, and I'll be glad to talk 656 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: to you Wednesday. So we look forward to that. Eight 657 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Like 658 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I said, leave a message, we'll get you in Q. 659 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you Wednesday nights, seven pm Eastern time, 660 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: So just make sure you're available real quick before the 661 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: hour ends. I want to just tell you real fast. 662 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I had that one tourist, remember the k sealed tourist 663 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: that came in a couple of weeks ago. We were 664 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: talking about the car had been everywhere and they nobody 665 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: could fix the check engine light and the EGR valve 666 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: problem and turned out to be a bad dpfeed digital 667 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: pressure sensor for the egr and he poured a bottle 668 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: of k Seal in it and sealed the head gasket. 669 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Still working cars still running strong. K Seal did the job, 670 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: but it also developed an engine missfire cylinder number five. 671 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: It came in this week for that separate problem, completely 672 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: unrelated to anything. The plug on number five was missing 673 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: half its tip. Gee did cool it when it leaked? 674 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Did it create a thermal shock and pop the plug apart? 675 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Did it finally show up? I don't know, but I 676 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: know diagnosing it like a regular problem. Set of plugs 677 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: and wires just for age, and that car solved them 678 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: down the road. So sometimes diagnosis is really just a 679 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: diagnose this until the next time I'm running Ady and 680 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See 681 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: you