WEBVTT - Maggie Gyllenhaal 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.080 Welcome to River Cafe Table four, a production of iHeartRadio 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:05.359 and Adami Studios. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.040 When Maggie john Noll enters a river cafe, I stop 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:17.320 whatever I'm doing, even if mid service a rare admission 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.239 from a chef. But then Maggie is a rare person 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:27.640 for whom the world should stop. She's a brilliant actor, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:32.919 a strong director, and a beautiful writer. She is a 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.639 truly passionate woman, and I am truly passionate about her. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.320 That's so beautiful, That's true. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:53.880 A little love letter from Ruthie Rogers. We are going 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.120 to read the recipe that you chose for a taggy 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:59.600 telly with figs. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:05.880 Three hundred and fifty grams egg tagliatel eight black figs 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:14.240 cut into eighths, two dried chilis, crumbled, two lemons, parmesan 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.839 grated extra virgin olive oil one hundred millilters double cream. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.240 Grate the lemon peel of both lemons and squeeze the 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.560 juice of one. Heat a frying pan large enough for 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.040 the figs in one layer. Add olive oil, and when hot, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.479 place the figs in the pan, turning them immediately to caramelize. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.559 Season and add the dried chili. Stir the lemon, zest 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.680 and juice into the cream and mix with the figs. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.520 Cook the pasta and add to the sauce. Serve with parmesan. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.160 Thank you. It would be nice to talk about the 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:03.160 lost water and food accommodation of movie and food work 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.520 in food Greece and Italy and figs and pasta. So 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.919 how was it filming in Greece? Was it last summer before. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:13.400 The Last Daughter? 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.200 It was this summer before last summer, so it was 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.120 August September October, although we only shot for a month 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.800 of that time of twenty twenty. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:25.960 Yeah, so two summers ago. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:27.560 And were there fixed? 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:33.600 Oh yeah, there were figs your name later. It's very provocative. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.120 You're thinking about the Yates. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:44.280 I bet you know it by heart in Italia touto 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:45.000 di corpo. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.200 There's a few interesting food things in The Last Daughter. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.320 The rotten fruit in the very beginning. Yeah, picked up 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:57.720 the boat. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:03.600 Yeah, but I think like hunger as an idea, especially 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:04.120 for women. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:04.720 I think. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.799 Often we're told that our appetites are too big, you know, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.200 for what it is we want, what it is we need, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.040 even the amount of rage, the amount of confusion, the 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.280 amount of need, the amount of love, the amount of desire, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:22.240 Like it's too much. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.320 What were your daughters like when they were little? Were 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.760 they like this willful little creature. I don't mistake my 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.560 command them much. Actually, I don't know. You can't forget 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.800 anything about your own children. I was thinking about food 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.120 in some ways, in terms. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:44.920 Of desire and hunger versus deprivation. So like even that 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.000 scene with Callie, the pregnant sister in law when she 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.880 offers her the cake and she who eats cake? And 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.360 who doesn't? From one woman's hands to another, and Olivia 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.000 takes a bite, and at least the way she plays 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.640 and that take, I feel like it actually was delicious 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.760 and you know, really something she was sort of trying 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.400 not to eat but wanted to eat. And what we 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.440 really remember food wise in my family. And Olivia Coleman too, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.760 I mean she was a part of this. Was like 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:21.720 this kind of obsession we had with spinach pie, you 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.839 know the Greek spinach pre that's a cheese. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:25.599 Yeah. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.920 I found that. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.040 I needed fat, like I needed like my brain needed 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.800 fat and I could eat four. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.080 No, four was too many. That's what we decided. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.520 Three spinach pies throughout the day was the right number 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:42.800 and four was too many. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.800 It was that different from other films you've worked on. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.000 Do you think being director, you needed a different kind 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.159 of way of eating. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.120 Yeah, I did. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.479 I needed a different It's a totally different kind of 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:04.280 I was constantly moving and thinking. For example, it's so 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.400 different than editing. When I was editing, I was editing 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.240 in the middle of the pandemic in New York in 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:15.520 the winter, just me and my editor. We needed like nourishing. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.880 I bought him lunch every day and we had like 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:25.159 steak sandwiches and pasta, and I don't know, I needed 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.919 something more streamlined when I was shooting, like just straight 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.760 like black coffee and spinach pies, spinach push. I was 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.640 thinking about the last time I saw you actually when 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.680 what that was. I don't even know if you knew 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:43.240 really what that dinner was. But I invited the people 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.560 who not the people who had literally paid for the movie, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.839 but the people who had organized all of that, the 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.719 people who had gotten it sold to European distributors, the 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.520 people who had you know, made the deal with Netflix, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.280 the people who had connected did me with our financiers, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.520 the people who were like doing the sort of. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:05.520 Business side of it. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.840 Who always take me to dinner, and they had just 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:15.560 done something like really brilliantly in what they do, and 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.560 I really wanted to take them to dinner, and I 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.520 wanted to take them to like the most beautiful, bountiful 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:27.360 dinner with the best wine and all the desserts. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.680 And I in fact got to. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.880 Do what I didn't even realize I wanted to do, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.560 but like I ordered for everybody because I remember this, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.520 I remember, yeah, but I thought it gave me so 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:45.880 much pleasure to offer to them, I mean like a 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.600 real thank you, you know, like in a special place. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.360 And then I remember like we weren't sure. We're like, oh, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.400 is this enough pasta? And I was like, no, no, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.880 no it's not. Let's get another two pasta, you know, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.280 like that so that nobody nobody felt I mean, you 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.320 don't want also to too much that you don't care anymore, but. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.960 That everyone felt that they could eat their fill. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.440 I remember that night that you were there, and I 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.400 remember the feeling of it that you were you know, 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.040 you you were so happy and you were so wanting to. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.640 Give I kept texting you and saying, oh, could one 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:25.400 more person come. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.000 Oh, could just one more person come? Could one more 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:28.760 person come? 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.080 And I felt good, I felt really bad because you 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.920 were like fitting us into the world of your restaurant. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.640 Then at the same time, everyone was like, sort of 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.880 more people wanted to join, you know, could I you know, 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.800 and don't you always kind of want to say yes, right, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080 like like of course you can bring your boyfriend. Of 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.440 course I didn't realize to invite her, and of course 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.400 she should be invited, and you know, so you're just 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:56.840 kind of opening your arms more and more, and this 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:57.560 is interesting. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:57.840 It was. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.360 It really was a special night. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.720 And one of the thing I just want to say 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.800 about it is, you know, in terms of Hunger and 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.400 my film, and you know, even like we were talking 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:14.320 about deprivation versus being satisfied, I think I felt something 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.240 interesting about that night too, because of course we were 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.960 there to do press for The Lost Daughter. We all 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.640 had to wake up at like six o'clock in the 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.320 morning the next day and go do press all day 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.800 and then go to the opening night. And we had 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.320 all eaten all this food, drank tons of wine and 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.200 champagne and chocolate cake. And I was thinking the next 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:40.720 day about like consequences what's worth it and what isn't 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.240 you know? And I was like, this feeling I have 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:49.120 today is totally worth it. I'm not blindly having this 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.520 dinner and drinking wine and you know, eating all this 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:57.280 delicious food. I understand that I will sacrifice something the 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.440 next day. If I'd gone to sleep at nine and 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.840 had green juice or something, I would feel different. But 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:07.600 what it gives me in exchange, I felt was was 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:08.200 worth it. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.319 I remember exactly where you were sitting. You were outside 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.960 and you were and I came in to see you. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.040 I always say again, like you, I try and say 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.440 yes as much as well. I just I think I 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.960 say it to my grandchildren. I say it to I 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.840 say it to the way it's just saying, you know, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:38.880 it makes life actually much nicer and much happier. So 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.040 going back, what was it like growing up in your 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.640 household in the chillinal household? And food? Did your mother cook? 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:47.560 Yeah? 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.760 Both of my parents cooked and cooked pretty well. I 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.800 think you know that my brother is a you know, like. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.560 A really like a like a gifted cook. You know. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.840 I don't think my parents are gifted cooks, but they 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.200 know what they're doing and they care about food. And 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:09.240 they enjoy food, and I think that's definitely something that 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.440 can be handed down. Like my mom always jokes that 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.760 I remember things that were happening in places that I 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.400 went by what I was wearing, and she remembers by 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.000 what she was eating. But I also remember by what 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.960 I was eating, and I plan my days around. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.320 Around food, you know, all the time. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.440 I think, like growing up, you know, my dad would 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.320 make us a really nice breakfast in the morning, and 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.640 we still do that for our kids, Like they always 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.880 have breakfast and something nice, and I like to. You know, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.840 the thing is like even just cutting up an orange 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.520 nicely and putting it on a cutting board and putting 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.199 it in the middle of the table at breakfast along 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.560 with whatever else you're making, all of a sudden makes 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.400 it a nice meal, or you know, putting having a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.680 nice sort of butter bell and having some nice gams 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.280 around it. You know, even if you're doing the simplest thing, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.200 I do that, Like, actually, I mean, I mess up 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.520 all sorts of things, but I do really take care 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.000 of food. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:13.960 You know. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.240 When I've traveled to other countries, as I'm sure you have, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.320 I always think that the way a person cuts a 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 piece of bread. The way they slice of bread tells 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.319 you something about the culture. And Richard and I went 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:32.120 to Syria, and you know, it's done by the museums, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.800 and I was moved by the architecture. And then you 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.720 would go into a small little place and you'd see 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.559 the way, as you say, they would cut a piece 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.360 of bread, or they would put a piece of cheese, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.120 or they would serve it in a bowl, and it 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.200 meant something. You know, if you do that for your 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.439 children and. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.200 Those little things that you know, would just make a difference. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.960 I believe in that, and I so in my house, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.240 we always had breakfast. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.640 What do you have, Maggie? What do you have for 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.599 breaks in our house? Now? I have a breakfast? Was 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.000 Gloria there? She could tell us. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.520 Gloria's right here, Yeah, she can hear you. You want 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.560 to tell her a little bit about breakfast at our house? 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.960 What do we have? Okay, Gloria is gonna Gloria, who 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:12.319 is my. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.640 Daughter who's nine, who's home from school with a cold today, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.280 is gonna keep me honest? 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.640 What do we have for breakfast? You're come over close 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.160 to the microphone. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:26.280 Like we have like eggs and we have toast and 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.520 oranges m hm. And sometimes my mom puts out a 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.079 little bit of juice like Dorsley apple. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:37.000 Juice, and do we have We also usually have tea, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.800 and sometimes we have cool things like sometimes. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.120 We have like egg and a hole. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:43.520 What's up right? 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:44.840 What's egg and a hole? 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.880 It's like it's a piece of bread with the inside 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.040 cut out and instead there's a bit of the middle 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.120 of the eggs inside of it, and the outside there's 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.600 also an egg. So it's kind of. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:00.720 Just like an egg. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:01.320 Yeah. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.120 You take something that makes like a perfect circle, like 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.959 a little cup, and you push out a perfect circle, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.880 and then we toast that little circle in the pan 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.840 too with some butter, and you crack the egg in 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.720 the circle so that it stays in the circle, and. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.520 You have like a little egg and a hole coming 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.360 for breakfast? This household? Did you grow up with a 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:28.160 household where where you had breakfast every day, where you 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.120 sat around the table with your parents and had breakfast? 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.400 Is something that you were brought up with that you 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.680 want to give to your children because your parents give 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:36.160 it to you. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.280 Well, my mom, like me, likes to sleep late, so 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.120 she would like stay in bed and my dad would 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.760 make her a coffee, which just seems like such a 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.400 luxury to me. It's so nice. And then my dad 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.439 really made breakfast for us. My mom, I would say, more, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.600 made dinner. My dad too, both of them cooked. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.240 Did you have dinner? 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.120 Yeah, always almost all. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.719 And you did. Jake said that you did when your 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.040 parents entertained. He described sitting on the stairs and listening 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.680 from above. And so when you left home, did you 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.439 cook for yourself? 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.920 I was not taught, not really taught how to cook. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.400 I mean, it's funny. I remember going to a dinner 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.800 party at somebody's house when I was in my early twenties, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.440 and this woman was making a tomato sauce like Apasta sauce, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.320 and she put raw onions in at the end, and. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.680 I was like shocked. You know, I knew, I knew. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.120 I mean I always knew, like enough to know not 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.720 to do that, and I could always cook a little. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.480 But I I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.880 Always sort of basically had the basics just from growing 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.200 up around people who cooked. When I first left home 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.040 and I went to college, I you know, ate Chinese 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.760 food at four o'clock in the morning and bagels with 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.680 butter and just whatever I wanted, which I think is 0:14:54.720 --> 0:15:01.480 not uncommon probably, And then when did I start to cook, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.000 I don't know, kind of snuck up on me. It 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.800 definitely had to do with mothering. I think that I 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.000 really wanted to feed my kids well. I always want 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.240 to feed my kids well. And I don't mean like 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.920 super super healthy. I don't actually think about it like that. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.320 I just want them to feel nourished and satisfied and 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.640 excited about food. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.400 So it is food always when you're working. Does it 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.160 depend on what you're working on? 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:44.200 Well? 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.680 I remember actually when I did Three Sisters with Peter 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.680 with my husband, I would drink lots of coffee. I 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.280 remember a friend of mine who was in the play 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.480 with us, was like, I can't believe how much coffee 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.800 you drink, you know, Like I would have one that 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:02.720 was like a latte, one that was just a regular 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.560 drip coffee, and one that was an espresso, and I'd 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.160 kind of sip from different ones at different times in 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:12.000 the performance. And I found also I was in a corset, 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.359 so you can't eat. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.640 A lot, like you'll burp. It's weird, but I and 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:18.160 also you. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.240 Need that kind of streamline feeling, but you know, what 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.040 I found worked really well and would sustain me for 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.760 long enough through a whole long check off play was 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:34.120 sober noodles their buckwheat and there's a kind of I 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.120 would go to this place, this really good place in 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:41.560 the East Village and get sober noodles with shrimp tempura 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.720 and the seaweed salad, and it was just exactly perfect. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.880 If I had that early enough, that would sustain me 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.160 through the play. Again, it was nourishing, it had some protein, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.560 it also had carbs and something that filled me. And 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.680 then I'm of course on stage, I'm always hungry afterward. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.240 Yeah, afterwards going out to eat afterwards. When you decide 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.240 to do a film, or when you decide to do play, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.800 or when you are wanting to work with another actor, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.680 actress or director, does going to a restaurant with them 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.480 reveal something about them? Do you thinks? 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:16.080 Oh? 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.119 Yeah, I don't think of it as consciously as that. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.359 I'm not trying to pull something out of them. It's 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.920 more I feel comfortable in that space, let me order 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:30.439 beautiful things for us, and you know, yeah, I really 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:35.000 like to share a meal with anybody who I'm who 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.440 I'm interacting with. But certainly with work, yes, and I 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.840 only want to go really good places. Thinking about this 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.000 just occurs to me because I had like a couple 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.600 of really good meals with David Simon when I was 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.400 working on The Deuce at Via Kurota. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.920 But when we were scouting. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:18:00.200 Basically I shadowed a director on the Deuce, meaning I, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.080 you know, when I wasn't acting, there was one director 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.359 who I just spent all the time with. I we 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.240 did location scouting and costume fittings and you know, I 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.280 sat with her at her at her chair, and I 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.080 hated location scouting when it wasn't my film. When it 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.080 was my film, I mean, I could have done it 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.359 all day, but I was super bored on the Deuce. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.080 I was like, oh my god, when is this day 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.360 gonna be over? And like that high school looks fine, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.080 you know. But we were in I don't know where 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.720 we were, like Long Island or something, and we ended 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:35.240 up stopping at this pretty great Italian like like Italian 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.160 American like Long Island like type of place like Red 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.800 Sauce like you know, and it was really. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.600 Pretty great and it just totally lifted me. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.199 We're scouting in little Italy in this cafe that was 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.879 known for its like almond cookies, almond cookies that are 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.720 kind of chewy in the middle. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:56.600 Like amaretta. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.480 Yeah, no, pine nut, pine nut them, they're like pin 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:07.679 yeah yeah, and and and they were so good and 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.840 they just gave us an espresso and like a box 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:10.479 of these cookies. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.520 And again I was like okay, I like scouting again. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.800 Good matters. And it's also a celebration. Were you married 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.920 in Italy? Did you tell me once that you were 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:19.719 married in Italy? 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.640 Yeah, in Pulia. 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.199 And the food was incredible and it's the same kind 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.960 of food we're talking about, like not fussy, not a 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.840 big deal, warm, plentiful. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.080 Pullia is an incredible region of Italy. It's it is 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.840 totally unique in that barren landscape with the time of year. 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.760 Was it It was May second, so it was in fact, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.040 we went back in August one year and we were like. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:51.480 This is a completely different place. Hot and like totally packed. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.720 But in May it was poppies everywhere and olive trees 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:57.800 and really quiet. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:58.880 It was great. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.119 The one cush and I ask everyone is if food 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.520 is love, Food is alleviating hunger, food is giving support. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.280 It is also a comfort is there a comfort food 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.920 that you would go for? 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:18.600 Yeah, I mean for me, it's pasta. Yeah, it's not 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:24.160 any pasta. It's not acidic pasta, Like it's not tomato pasta. 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.440 Jake loves that, right, you know, he's always making it. 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:27.959 Yeah. 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:35.880 Yeah, for me, it's like a simple, basic. 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:38.400 Pasta. Yeah. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.080 I can have variation, of course, but we have one 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.360 that we make with like a little bit of anchovy 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.679 that you can barely taste and you know, in my 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:51.240 house and the cooking water and parmesan and you know. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.360 Just really really simple. Yeah. 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.160 I love pasta. I think it's a good go too 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.040 for comfort. It is. It is very comforting, and talking 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.600 to you is comforting and seeing you and celebrating your 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.880 movie and try and come for the Baftis. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.119 Yeah, I'm going to try and come, and if not, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.679 I'm going to get to London and see all my 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.560 friends and you and eat at your restaurant. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.160 I'm dying to come back. I really am really miss it. 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:24.239 Just get on that plane and come bye bye man, 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.119 nice Hi, I love you. 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:26.720 Thank you. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.320 To visit the online shop of the River Cafe, go 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.760 to shop Therivercafe dot co dot uk. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.919 River Cafe Table four is a production of iHeartRadio and 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:55.160 Adamized Studios. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.280 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.