1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Holly Fry and I'm Tracy B. Wilson, and welcome to 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Casual Fridays or we do our behind the scenes minisodes 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: m This week we talked about Seneca Village, which, as 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: I said, was something I've had on my list for 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah. Uh, and then you know, the 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: list is like building a castle on sand, It's always shifting. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: But I was really really glad to be reminded of 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: it and to take some time to dig into it. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I love Central Park 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: and I often go when I'm in New York. But 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: now I have a vested interest in seeking out this 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: area so that I can just go and see it 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: for myself. Even though there's nothing of the original village 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: there on the site, you can just know that you're 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: in that space. Um, and I want to check out 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: the various plaques that they put up to commemorate and 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: explain the history and see how all of that is 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: has been managed. Yeah. We're having a thunderstorm at my house, 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: so if any listeners are like, what is happening? You 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: may hear thunder in the background today I have. I 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: think I've only been to Central Park maybe once, because 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the first time that I went to New York City 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: I was I was in my like I think was 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: an eighth grade field trips seventh or eighth grade. I 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: was in middle school. We took a bus overnight from 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: North Carolina to New York City with the strings class 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: that I was in, And at that point, I don't 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: know how much of this was influenced by the fact 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: that we were North Carolina kids from a not very 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: like a h our school I think was technically in 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the city, but like we were mostly from a relatively 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: rural area. I don't know how much of it was 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: influenced by that and how much of it was really real. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: We were told not to go anywhere near Central Park 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: because it was dangerous. Well it would have been more 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: dangerous then, yeah, um My, I don't know how much 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: of that was real danger and how much of it 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: was like big city. No, I definitely went through a 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: very dangerous period. Okay, so yeah we did not we 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: did not go there. But then the first time you 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: and I ever did a live show of this podcast, um, 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: I was really nervous about it, which is funny to 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: me in hindsight, but I just like, I was very nervous, 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: and so Patrick and I went out and had lunch 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: somewhere and then we went on a walk, and when 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I got into Central Park, I was like, this is huge. 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Like it's I did not have a conception of how 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: big that park is at all. Um, It's gigantic. This 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: episode also really reminded me of UM a brief thing 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: that we touched on in an earlier episode, which was 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: we talked about the zoot Suit riots, a similar process 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: of Chavez Ravine being cleared out of all of its 55 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: residents to build Dodger Stadium, which, like that had had 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: some similar traits in terms of people being suspicious of 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: the residents there because they were predominantly Hispanic. UM. And 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: then how outsiders viewed that neighborhood versus how the people 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: living there viewed the neighborhood, with a very similar outcome 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: of then there was a stadium there instead of homes. Yeah, 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I UM, I love Central Park. Brian and I have 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: gotten in the habit of UM. If we're in New York, 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: particularly if we are staying near the I heart offices 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: in midtown to just south of where Central Park starts. Uh, 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: we'll just walk the length of the park, like we'll 66 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: set aside some hours on a day, or we'll book 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: an extra day there and just walk the park and 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: then end up at the met and wander around there 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: for a little bit. And it's like one of our 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: favorite things to do because it's just a really beautiful 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: space and its sounds like a great day. It is 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: a great day. We love it. We love just walking 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: around in New York. I love just walking around a 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: place in general. Yeah. Yeah, It's one of those things 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: where the last one of the last trips that Brian 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and I had there was in the fall, and I 77 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: was so watted up with work commitments that he kind 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: of had that moment of can I just walk the 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: park by myself? As I go ahead? Um, So he went. 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: He didn't do our full, our full loop that we 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: usually do, but he went and hung out a bit 82 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: because he loves it there too. It's such an interesting 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and unique space because it is um I mean admittedly, right, 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: we talked about in the episode the reasons for wanting 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: that space were a little bit pretentious in some ways, 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to emulate Europe's great garden traditions. But it is 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: quite marvelous to have that big, beautiful space in the 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: middle of a city that is so busy, and there 89 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: are places you can be in Central Park and you 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: don't you lose all sense of it being like that. 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: Even though you can look around and see the buildings, 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: it's still there is a very impressive capture of tranquility 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and nature that that is surprising. It's hard to imagine 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: what New York would be without it. M hm. So uh, yeah, 95 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: we're big fans of Central Park and I hope to 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: go there again sometime one day when travel might exist ever, yes, 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: but in the meantime we will stay home and stay safe, 98 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: which I hope all of our listeners are doing as well. 99 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: So we're almost at the end of July, but we 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: do finally have Unearthed in July this week. Indeed. Yeah, 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: it was something that I was planning to do a 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: little bit earlier than we did, but then Cohen telpro 103 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: morphed into a two part thing, which pushed stuff out 104 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, and then this one became a one 105 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: part thing, which for a lot of the time that 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: I was working on it it was right on the 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: line of is this going to be one part or two? 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: I always like to ask you if you have a 109 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: favorite among the topics of the unearthed of that whatever 110 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: period we're working on. And I just, I, uh, the 111 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the dog poop story of just I mean, it's not 112 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: even just because it's scatological, just the sort of this 113 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: the surprise factor of how much dog poop there is 114 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: in the archaeological record delighted me. Um. I also had thing. 115 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I had one that I had originally been leading off 116 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: with that I took completely out. That was about poison control. Yeah. Uh. 117 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: And how when we talked about the poison control system 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: and our pretty recent episode on the evolution of the 119 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: poison control system in the US, we talked about how 120 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: poison control or poison exposures were increasing because of there 121 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: being a lot more focused on cleaning and sanitation and 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: a lot more toxic cleaning and sanitation products in people's homes. 123 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: And then in the first three months of a very 124 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: similar uptick reported by the Centers for Disease Control in 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the More Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report UM as people 126 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: were trying to like keep their houses and what not 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: more clean, in sanitary because of the pandemic, a big 128 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: increase in cause to poison control. It was like a 129 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: increase Q one nineteen versus Q one, and then an 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: increase I think just March nineteen versus March, like a 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: whole big thing and not surprising, and it um most 132 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: of the exposures, it was like more than half of 133 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: them were exposure to bleach um and then the like 134 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: portions were non alcohol cleansers and hand sanitizers, and a 135 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: lot of that exposure was inhaling, so people trying to 136 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: bleach their stuff and not being in a well ventilated base. Um. 137 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: And I wound up cutting it out because I was like, 138 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: now we have to talk about how this like this 139 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: trend is continuing, and like I just I'm talking about 140 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it now, even though I wasn't going to talk about 141 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: it in the episode. I was like, and we're gonna 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: talk about the thing that the President said where he 143 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: asked if you could inject disinfectants because a lot of 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: cities reported more poison control calls after that, and I 145 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: was like trying to work all of that into an 146 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: episode that already felt a little bit long, it was 147 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: just making it longer and I was like, you know what, 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: I could cut out of this episode this and apparently 149 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: we're just going to talk about it in the behind 150 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the scenes instead. There you go. And I ever told 151 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: you that I don't use bleach ever, No, I hate it, 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: like I'm a little afraid of it for all of 153 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: the inhalation reasons you mentioned. But moreover, I associate bleach 154 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: with childhood trauma because my mom loved it. She ruined 155 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: so many garments by bleaching. So, um, yeah, we do 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: have a small thing of household bleach here in our house, 157 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: but are our preferred disinfecting methods are are not that 158 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: we have other cleansers and whatnot? Yeah? Uh so anyway, 159 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: like that was a whole I was like, this is 160 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: uh the the amount of time it was taking to 161 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: explain all that? Was like, this is now two thirds 162 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: of this update section, right right, So maybe maybe we 163 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: can just leave that out. Yeah yeah, I I imagine 164 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: we're going to be continuing to see the same trends 165 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and poison control calls because this pandemic is still happening. Yeah, 166 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: it seems like some people have moved on. Um. I 167 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: also said last time that it was the first time 168 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: that I had worked on an an Earth episode where 169 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: it felt like the same world circumstance kept coming up 170 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: over and over, and that was the case with this one. 171 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Also because there was a lot more stuff about this 172 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: work was supposed to happen, but it had to be 173 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: delayed because of the pandemic or the reason we were 174 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: going through this part of our archive was because, like 175 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: we're trying to stay busy at work during a pandemic 176 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: when we don't have visitors in our museum, that kind 177 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: of stuff. So, um, we'll see how things are in 178 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: three more months when we do the next the next unearthed, 179 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: so long as the pandemic hasn't stopped everything, in which 180 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: case we'll do something else. Yeah, yeah, I mean, um, 181 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: since since I did not include stuff that happened in July, 182 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: I know for sure I already have a few things 183 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: that we can talk about next time, because we're recording 184 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: this on July four. There you go. Yeah, Uh, you 185 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: have questions or anything, send us an email. History podcast 186 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: that I heart radio dot com. 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