WEBVTT - Rerun: TechStuff Samples Some Raspberry Pi 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.680 Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.720 John Than Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.680 And how the tech are you? As for myself, I'm 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.079 a little under the weather. I'm struggling with a migraine 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.479 which makes it difficult to function, and I'm working on 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.080 an epic episode but it is not finished yet. And 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.120 due to feeling a little under the weather, I thought 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.320 we could listen to a classic episode of tech Stuff today. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.360 And there's a reason why I picked this one. The 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:47.199 episode is called tech Stuff Samples Some Raspberry Pie, and 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.680 the reason I wanted to talk about the Raspberry Pie 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:55.160 at all is because I've been looking into going the 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:00.640 Mame Arcade emulator route, using a Raspberry Pie as the 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.640 brains behind it. I'll talk more about that at the 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.679 end of this episode, but for now, let's enjoy this 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:12.200 classic episode, which originally aired on February two thousand, twelve, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:18.120 more than a decade ago. Enjoy today. We're going to 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.840 sort of discuss one of our favorite topics. But you're 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.640 about to reveal. Longtime listeners will know why this is 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.160 going to be a difficult one. Yep, yep, yep. First 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.280 of all, this comes to us courtesy of a little 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.200 Facebook feedback. This comes from Arthur. He says, Hey, guys, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.280 I was wondering if you could maybe do a podcast 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:44.320 on the raspberry Pie computer. Pie. I love pie. Pie 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.880 is awesome. It's both the number and the food, especially 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.480 when the food in the number converge. Yes, because it 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.480 is in this case raspberry pie is spelled p. I 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.440 like the number, but it has raspberry, like the delicious 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.800 fruity filling that we all love. So yeah, and it 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.320 is not the next bild of Android. No. No, in fact, 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.680 it's specifically not Android. But you know, Jonathan, where you 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.880 do you remember that the episode we recorded not too 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.560 long ago about Commodore sixty four. I do recall such 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:18.000 an episode. We're laughing to ourselves because in recording time, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.960 we did that last week, so you know that the 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.360 episodes will be spaced out, so it's not that close 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.480 together anyway. But don't worry, we're already spaced out enough 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.160 as it is. Absolutely now. One of the things we 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.080 touched on in the Commodore sixty four episode was that 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.760 this was that machine sold a lot of of Uh, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.680 computers to a lot of people. And one of the 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.080 things that people did with those, especially young people, and 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.519 it was fun to create your own programs, to learn 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.519 exactly how programming works. In fact, the Commodore sixty four 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.640 was the best selling computer of all time if you 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.160 look at a very specific model of computer. Yes, so 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.600 the Commodore sixty four sold I think it was seventy 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.239 million units, which was pretty incredible for a single the ice, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.079 especially given the the time at which it was sold 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.280 and uh um, the price at which it sold. Uh. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.840 That was not the heyday of computing, but it's really 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.040 sort of started the whole snowball rolling and for a 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.280 lot of people, uh, people who create your favorite software 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.720 games and other programs. Uh, a lot of them sort 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.520 of cut their teeth on the Commodore sixty four, which 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.520 was because those were really big, bulky, heavy machines. He 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.480 was going to say that, Uh no, they were. They 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.760 got their feet wet programming. Let's use a different analogy, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.079 which by the way, I do not recommend when you're 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.520 using electrical device. I knew he since I said, Okay, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.000 so actually the device we're talking about now, the Raspberry Pie, 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:46.080 is created to do really very much the same thing. Yeah. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.839 In fact, there's a great backstory to this device. That's 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.080 that's what I think is the really compelling part of this. Yeah. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.440 I mean the device itself is awesome too, but yes, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.840 but the reason behind it is fantastic. So over in 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.120 jolly old England across the pond, and I promise I'm 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.080 not going to do my terrible fake English accent today. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.160 A fellow by the name of even Upton, who worked 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:16.360 in admissions at Cambridge University and also would do lectures there, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:21.880 he noticed a disturbing trend. Incoming students who are interested 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.160 in studying computer science seemed to be to have a 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.000 less of a grasp on the way computers work than 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.719 previous generations of students. So, in other words, as time 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.120 has gone on, people the incoming classes seem to be 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.640 more ignorant of the way computers work than the previous class, which, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.960 you know, you'd think that's odd, because we're in a 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.240 world where computers are much more pervasive than they ever 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.000 have been before, to the point where you might have 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.279 a computer in your pants pocket, as a smartphone or 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.320 a tablet on your on your desk, or or even 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.760 the device you're listening to right now might very well 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.120 be considered a computer. Well, a lot computers are in 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.000 lots of things. Computers are in your car and in 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.760 your fridge and in all sorts of other stuff. But 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.320 the thing is, uh, today's computers, the computer computer, the 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.480 one that sits on on your desktop or a laptop 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:20.000 or desktop machine. Um, those computers just work and doing 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.039 for you. Yeah. Yeah, So back back when we're talking 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.719 about the old Commodore sixty four days, those were days 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.400 where you're using uh interface where it's all text based. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.960 You're typing stuff into the computer to get it to 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.080 do things, and people were wondering, well, wait, how does 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.320 this work? How does how does what I type in 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.680 translate into this action? And how can I create my 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.880 own programs knowing that there's this one language I can 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.640 use to build something that that you know, when you 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.200 execute command it does something kind of cool, and you've 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.680 got a lot of people getting into it and sort 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.320 of a hobbyist level. Right. Well, those people when they 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.560 would go to school, some of them would say, you know, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.040 I loved tinkering with that stuff. I want to learn 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.280 more about it. This is what I'm going to pursue 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.360 as a career, and they became that generation of computer 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:14.440 engineers and scientists. Well, the problem is that we've got 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.160 these devices that are now so sophisticated and do so 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.520 much for us that that level of tinkering has been 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.039 taken out. It's really hard to tinker with a device 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:30.120 that's running, say, a sophisticated graphics uh graphic user interface. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.200 You know you can You're not seeing the underlying programming 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.680 that's making this all go, and you might very well 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.720 not have very much exposure to it. And in fact, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.200 Upton's point was that he said that the students he 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.280 was encountering, most of them had little to no understanding 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.680 of any programming. If they had anything, it was HTML programming, 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.839 which is not really programming h g MLS markup language. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.279 It changes the way stuff looks, but it's not truly 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.320 a pro gramming language. Right. You know, if I may 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.320 be permitted an analogy, I think it's sort of like 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.880 somebody going to say, you know what, I want to 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.600 become a mechanic, and somebody goes, okay, so you have 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.560 a car. What makes it go? Well, I step on 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.320 the gas and it makes it go. Yeah, But what 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.880 about the engine. What about the parts of an engine? 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.360 And you go, I don't I don't know the gas 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.080 makes it move forward. I know that I put the 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.320 groceries in the trunk and at the other end there's 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.680 something exactly. And that was that was Upton's point, was 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.880 that students only had a very superficial understanding of computers. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.520 They had nothing. It's it seemed like it was getting 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.040 worse each year. Yeah. Now, I mean you you have 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.280 computers now, um that come with programming language is built 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.040 into the computer when you take it home and unwrap 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.880 it and take it out of the box, it's got 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.640 that stuff. But a lot of people don't even mess 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.960 with it. And he wanted, um, he wanted people to 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:02.520 be able to get started programming in a very inexpensive way. Yeah, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.720 And so Upton realized, and it's this is all stated 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:12.320 on the Raspberry Pie Pie. It's it's stated on their 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.440 on their web page. So if you go to the 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.760 web page, you can actually read this whole story that 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.720 we're summarizing here. But Upton's point was that he knows 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:25.200 that access does not automatically solve a problem, right, but 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.360 that without access you can't solve a problem. And so 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.720 one of the things he thought would be important is 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.400 to try and create a very very low cost computer 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.080 that would give people the opportunity to really play with 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.360 programming in a way that hasn't been seen since the 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.160 days of the Common War sixty four and other computers 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.439 of that era. And so he set out to try 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.600 and create as an affordable a computer as possible. This 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.560 is essentially it's a nonprofit approach. It's a charity approach 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.560 to this, UM too, so that you can get as 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.800 many of them into schools and into private hands as possible, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.200 so that people kids mostly could really get their hands 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.720 on some programming, and perhaps this would inspire the next 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.199 generation of computer engineers. In fact, they're talking about the 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.680 possibility of a buy one, send one approach in the future. UM. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.679 They as at the time we're recording this in January twelve, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.319 they just started manufacturing these devices, probably within the last 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.680 uh six to eight weeks from what I understand, So 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.720 they're still pretty new and if you go to the shop, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.800 they are not actually in the shop. The only thing 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.920 that's in the shop right now are stickers for keyboards, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.040 so they might they might send one later. A lot 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.400 of the places like a one laptop per child do 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.360 that where you can you can purchase a machine for 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.480 someone else who may not otherwise be able to afford one, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.880 and they will send it out and help somebody get started, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.480 which I think is is a nice idea. And Raspberry 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.679 Pie does the same thing where you can choose by 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.920 where you can choose to actually send it to. Uh, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.520 you know, instead of purchasing one for your yourself, you 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.720 just spend the money in order for someone else to 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.559 have this device. So let's talk about what the device 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.080 actually is. Well, the device, Um, if you're looking for something, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.240 if you're one of those people who looks at a 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.400 computer and it just works, uh, this device maybe kind 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.160 of mystifying to you because it doesn't have a case. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.280 It looks like a circuit circuit board um with stuff 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.000 on it. Yep, it's it's kind of interesting. It is. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.240 It is. It's the heart of a computer. But it's 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:33.200 a tiny, tiny size. Actually, I think I have the 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.440 the the diagram looks it looks like this. I'll hold 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.600 it up to the mic and you can everyone can 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.360 look at it at the Raspberry Pie site. Right now, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.360 I was gonna I was gonna actually give the measurements 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.960 eighty five point six millimeters by fifty three point nine 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:54.480 eight millimeters and that's length and width that for the right. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.280 So it's tiny. Yeah, it's it's about the size of 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.000 a I don't know, smartphone, a fablet. Yeah, it's the slice. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.520 I hate that you did that. Just twitch in my forehead. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.800 It's um. It's got. It's got a few UM interfaces 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.160 soldered onto the board. Um, of course it's got. It's 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.400 got a process or chip, a Broadcom b C m 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.160 ARM chip. It's seven mega hurts. It's not the fastest 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.000 thing in the world. But it does have an r 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.920 C A video out, an audio jack, UM USB too, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.760 an Ethernet jack on one of the two. They have 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.240 an A and B model UM. They have an H 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.520 B H D M I port, micro USB for power, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.280 and an SD card slot. It also will work on batteries. Yes, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.920 C S four double as I think is what it 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.040 will work on. But you can also use the micro 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.199 USB and plug in a cable and either plug that 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.760 into another device or into a wall to power it. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.200 So it's got no monitor installed, though you can hook 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.160 it up to one. It's got UM no, you know 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.360 it's got networking capabilities, no WiFi. It weighs forty five 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.800 grams or one tenth of a pound. It does have 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.200 a few L A D s to tell you how 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:09.160 it's working. Um and UM, yeah it's it's So essentially, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.440 what you would do with this thing is, uh, let's 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.480 say that you have the model A. Okay, so you 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.480 would use an h d M I out probably for 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.600 you to go out to a television or a monitor, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.600 and then you would use a three and a half 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 millimeter headphone jack. You would plug your headphones and so 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.360 you can get sound. Although like with HDM I, that's 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.360 gonna carry sound too, so you can actually have sounds 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.240 straight through the monitor if your monitor has UM speakers 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.320 in it, So if you're using a television, you could 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.920 just use the TV speakers. Uh. You would also use 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.480 a USB keyboard and plug that into it, and then 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.440 you've got your keyboard user interface. If you want to 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.960 have a mouse, then what you would need to do 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.760 is get a USB hub, plug that into a keyboard. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.440 That right, what in which case the keyboard itself as 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.160 a hub. Um, but anyway, you gotta have a USB hub, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.040 possibly in the shape of a keyboard. And then you 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.719 can plug your mouse and to that. And the thing 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.480 is that it doesn't have a hard drive on it, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.880 but you could get a have a clock on it either. Yeah, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.480 you can get an external hard drive and and plug 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.959 that into it if you wanted to. Um, so you 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.479 would have the using a using a lot of existing technology. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.199 You might have to actually go out and buy the keyboard. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.400 Funny thing is the keyboard might actually cost more than 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.360 the Raspberry Pie. It depends on because yeah, the two models, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.520 the Model A that has no Ethernet is twenty five dollars. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:36.480 The Model B that has eithernet is a Princely. Bringing 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.880 the Princely back. There was a Model T and you 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.920 could get it in any color as long as it's black. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.280 We'll be back to talk more about the Raspberry Pie 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:56.679 in just a moment. The two models dollars. That's incredibly 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.640 affordable for a fully functional computer. And you might wonder, well, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.680 what does this computer run? These are designed to run 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.880 UH specific Linux distros. Yes, so we're not talking Windows 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:13.400 or the mac os or or even certain Linux distributions 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.280 like a Buntu do not work with it. Yet. It 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.200 doesn't run Android the moment. Originally it was going to 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.160 run a Buntu, but then Buntu realized the people behind 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:27.200 a Buntu realize that they were not hitting their schedule properly, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.160 so they knew that they were not gonna be able 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.680 to build in support for Raspberry pie uh they did 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.720 the top. It did sound like that it's something that Canonical, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.680 the company behind one too, and other distributions of Lenox 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.480 are are working on, but it's not currently available. The 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.800 specific ones that are available at launch are Debian, Fedora, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.040 and arch Linux. Those are the three that can work 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.400 right at the top of the as soon as it's ships, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.480 and there's been some beta once sent out already. It 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.560 also sounded like it's possible that they that that the 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.560 maker of Raspberry pie pi would be willing to accept 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.480 uh Android, but they're not going to apport it themselves 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.160 somebody else. If somebody else does it, they'll be cool 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.200 with that. But in other words, this this is a 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.760 very open source kind of approach where the community is 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:19.760 going to provide a lot of the actual content and 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:24.640 functionality beyond just the basics that the that the foundation 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.440 that has been created to do this well will do. Also, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.640 the Model A and Model B I should mention they 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.840 also have different amounts of memory. Yes, sal A is 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.880 a tight megabytes of memory. Model B is two hundred 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.280 fifty six megabytes of memory. And uh, I think I 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.080 think the Model B actually has two USB ports, which 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.840 could be good because you could plug in a WiFi 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:50.200 dongle into uh, you know, one of the Raspberry Pie 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.440 devices um to to give it WiFi connectivity, but it's 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.000 not built into the to the board. Yeah. Yeah, that's 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.760 the nice thing about USB, right, is that the they're 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.720 so so many different peripherals that use that standard that 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.320 can really extend the functionality of any computer, but particularly 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.240 for something like this, where it's just a very creative 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.600 approach to solving this problem. So yeah, the whole goal 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.880 here is that you get this device in as many 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.120 hands as possible, and the Linux distros are designed in 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.920 such a way that that they do kind of harken 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.680 back to that commonore sixty four day where it's it's 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.520 it requires a certain level of investment on the part 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.480 of the user to learn how the system works and 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.640 and to really kind of explore it um And that's 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.880 the whole purpose of this is not you know, it's 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.720 not just that it's a cheap computer that can get 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.960 into the hands of people. The the ultimate purpose is 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.640 to inspire people to really look into programming and learn 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.760 more about it and and possibly become the next you know, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.440 genius programmer. Um. And so mainly they're going to be 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.400 working with the Python programming language, but there are also 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:06.480 other languages supported, including Basic, although it's from why I 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.160 understand it's a form of Basic called BBC Basic. There's 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.840 also the C programming language and Pearl. Okay, so, um, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.959 there will be other languages probably added in support will 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.760 be added in later. Uh. And uh, it's any programming 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.800 language that the limitations that the program gramming language has 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.360 to have support for Linux because that's the obering system 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.320 and for ARM processors, because not every programming language works 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.480 with every processor. It's one of those tricky things about 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.960 computers is that, you know, you just when you think 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.640 you got it all figured out, you realize that there's 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.960 a hardware limitation. Yeah. But those those languages that you mentioned, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.879 for the most part are process are neutral. Yeah. I 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.840 mean those uh, you know, Python, C, Pearl, those are 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:58.080 they're all you know, cross platform. Um. And you might 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.000 be saying, well, you know, you guys, that sounds pretty 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.479 cool and all. But uh, you know, for the general public, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.800 why is that interesting? Well, for one thing, it gives 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.480 more people a chance to try out computer programming inexpensively. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.440 I mean, this is something that if you've always wanted 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.600 to do, this could be a cool way to get 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.400 into uh uh to hacking and learning how to write 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.719 your own software and how computers work. And this is 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.000 this is an inexpensive way to get your your not 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:30.800 your feet wet, you're you're you could dive into you 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:35.480 could try programming. But um, but yeah, there there's also 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.920 another audience that again the Raspberry Pie people are not 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.640 discouraging at all, And those are the people who already 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.960 know how to do this stuff but want to try 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.560 and making something else out of this little computer. And 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.600 one of the things I've already seen them do is 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.320 messing with x MBC, which is a media center at 0:18:55.480 --> 0:19:00.359 an open source media center. Um and uh it's available again, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.359 this is cross platform you can build your own. Remember 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.439 now is a podcast from a long time ago, building 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.000 your own uh media media center. Um. But this and 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:14.320 this operating system works for existing machines Lenox, Windows, mac 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.440 os ten um works on all of them. But they've 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:22.159 seen XNBC running on a Raspberry Pie. We've got a 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.280 little bit more to say about the Raspberry Pie after 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:35.639 these messages. So the question is what can makers do 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.560 with this device. We talked about the Arduino and the 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.720 micro controller board. This is another device like that, exactly 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.760 in the way that you can I would say, this 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.879 is this is two computers, is two circuits. Yes, so, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.200 uh yeah, I've already heard about people who are interested 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.520 in robotics using this as a component in in uh 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.720 their next robot. I also saw a video online of 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:05.520 a I who had created a essentially what what amounts 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.879 to an Apple TV using this, where he could he 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.920 could push video from an iPad to a television through 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:20.240 the Raspberry pie Pie. So yeah, so, I mean they're 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.080 the applications are numerous. So and and the nice thing 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.440 is at twenty five or thirty five dollars a pop, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.720 it's a really affordable component. I mean, you're talking about 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.000 hobbies that you know, hobbyists in these areas are sometimes 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.880 accustomed to spending multiple hundreds of dollars on on projects. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.800 So when you suddenly have like the brains of your 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.080 project is twenty five or thirty five dollars. That opens 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.440 up a lot of opportunities. I mean, even if you 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.200 went down to the computer store you said, I wanted 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:50.639 to build a computer, use for my computer, to have 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.600 a computer cheaper than now, And um, I believe they're 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.720 also talking about a case. So if that that's putting 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.920 you off, Yeah, there's no case right now, but that 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.040 there are plans for that in the future. Yeah, So 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.200 it's uh, because that's that's one thing some folks have said, like, well, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.680 it looks a little cluji. It looks a little like, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.280 you know, you've got this hardware showing that to some 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.480 people just seems a little weird, like it looks like 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.600 you naked circuit board. Yeah, it looks like looks like 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.000 someone went crazy and took a radio apart or something 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.120 and now there's just the pieces sitting around. So there 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.920 is talk about creating a case, although I'm sure there's 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.000 gonna be plenty of people out there who are going 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.560 to The folks that I think really this appeals to 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.000 are the same ones who will go out and build 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.960 their own cases. Who will you know, you'll end up 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:40.359 seeing like some really crazy interesting variations on cases for 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:46.680 the Raspberry Pie pie. Uh and I've already seen a 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.800 Lego based case. Yeah, yeah, it makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:53.919 of course you don't want to completely steal it off, 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.520 because you've got to not only provide access to the ports, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:00.200 but also provide a little cooling, um, make sure little 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.720 Eric can get to it. But um, but yeah, I 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.879 mean for considering, it will take wired or wireless connections, 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.280 and I'm including power in that. Um. You can do 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.720 all kinds of things with this little device, um and 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.200 possibly get a whole new generation of people interested in 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.240 what it takes to uh to learn programming and learn 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.320 what you can do with computers of all kinds. Um. 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:28.879 You know, I think this is an excellent opportunity and 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.520 i'm a great idea. UM. And the nice thing is 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.399 too that all the hackers will who are buying up 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.560 the machines will also provide money for the charity side, um, 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.320 who can then possibly distribute these two people who are 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.040 just getting started who may not necessarily have the money 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.640 to to get involved. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a it's 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.000 a really cool idea. And I all that I can 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.320 predict already that I'm gonna pick one of these up 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.119