1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio. 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: John Than Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: And how the tech are you? As for myself, I'm 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: a little under the weather. I'm struggling with a migraine 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: which makes it difficult to function, and I'm working on 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: an epic episode but it is not finished yet. And 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: due to feeling a little under the weather, I thought 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: we could listen to a classic episode of tech Stuff today. 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: And there's a reason why I picked this one. The 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: episode is called tech Stuff Samples Some Raspberry Pie, and 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the reason I wanted to talk about the Raspberry Pie 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: at all is because I've been looking into going the 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Mame Arcade emulator route, using a Raspberry Pie as the 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: brains behind it. I'll talk more about that at the 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: end of this episode, but for now, let's enjoy this 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: classic episode, which originally aired on February two thousand, twelve, 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: more than a decade ago. Enjoy today. We're going to 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: sort of discuss one of our favorite topics. But you're 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: about to reveal. Longtime listeners will know why this is 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: going to be a difficult one. Yep, yep, yep. First 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: of all, this comes to us courtesy of a little 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Facebook feedback. This comes from Arthur. He says, Hey, guys, 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could maybe do a podcast 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: on the raspberry Pie computer. Pie. I love pie. Pie 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: is awesome. It's both the number and the food, especially 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: when the food in the number converge. Yes, because it 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: is in this case raspberry pie is spelled p. I 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: like the number, but it has raspberry, like the delicious 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: fruity filling that we all love. So yeah, and it 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: is not the next bild of Android. No. No, in fact, 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: it's specifically not Android. But you know, Jonathan, where you 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: do you remember that the episode we recorded not too 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: long ago about Commodore sixty four. I do recall such 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: an episode. We're laughing to ourselves because in recording time, 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: we did that last week, so you know that the 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: episodes will be spaced out, so it's not that close 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: together anyway. But don't worry, we're already spaced out enough 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: as it is. Absolutely now. One of the things we 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: touched on in the Commodore sixty four episode was that 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: this was that machine sold a lot of of Uh, 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: computers to a lot of people. And one of the 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: things that people did with those, especially young people, and 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: it was fun to create your own programs, to learn 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: exactly how programming works. In fact, the Commodore sixty four 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: was the best selling computer of all time if you 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: look at a very specific model of computer. Yes, so 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: the Commodore sixty four sold I think it was seventy 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: million units, which was pretty incredible for a single the ice, 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: especially given the the time at which it was sold 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and uh um, the price at which it sold. Uh. 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: That was not the heyday of computing, but it's really 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: sort of started the whole snowball rolling and for a 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of people, uh, people who create your favorite software 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: games and other programs. Uh, a lot of them sort 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: of cut their teeth on the Commodore sixty four, which 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was because those were really big, bulky, heavy machines. He 58 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: was going to say that, Uh no, they were. They 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: got their feet wet programming. Let's use a different analogy, 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: which by the way, I do not recommend when you're 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: using electrical device. I knew he since I said, Okay, 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: so actually the device we're talking about now, the Raspberry Pie, 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: is created to do really very much the same thing. Yeah. 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: In fact, there's a great backstory to this device. That's 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: that's what I think is the really compelling part of this. Yeah. 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean the device itself is awesome too, but yes, 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: but the reason behind it is fantastic. So over in 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: jolly old England across the pond, and I promise I'm 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: not going to do my terrible fake English accent today. 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: A fellow by the name of even Upton, who worked 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: in admissions at Cambridge University and also would do lectures there, 72 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: he noticed a disturbing trend. Incoming students who are interested 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: in studying computer science seemed to be to have a 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: less of a grasp on the way computers work than 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: previous generations of students. So, in other words, as time 76 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: has gone on, people the incoming classes seem to be 77 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: more ignorant of the way computers work than the previous class, which, 78 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, you'd think that's odd, because we're in a 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: world where computers are much more pervasive than they ever 80 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: have been before, to the point where you might have 81 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: a computer in your pants pocket, as a smartphone or 82 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: a tablet on your on your desk, or or even 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the device you're listening to right now might very well 84 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: be considered a computer. Well, a lot computers are in 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: lots of things. Computers are in your car and in 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: your fridge and in all sorts of other stuff. But 87 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the thing is, uh, today's computers, the computer computer, the 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: one that sits on on your desktop or a laptop 89 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: or desktop machine. Um, those computers just work and doing 90 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. Yeah, So back back when we're talking 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: about the old Commodore sixty four days, those were days 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: where you're using uh interface where it's all text based. 93 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: You're typing stuff into the computer to get it to 94 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: do things, and people were wondering, well, wait, how does 95 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: this work? How does how does what I type in 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: translate into this action? And how can I create my 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: own programs knowing that there's this one language I can 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: use to build something that that you know, when you 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: execute command it does something kind of cool, and you've 100 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: got a lot of people getting into it and sort 101 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: of a hobbyist level. Right. Well, those people when they 102 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: would go to school, some of them would say, you know, 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: I loved tinkering with that stuff. I want to learn 104 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: more about it. This is what I'm going to pursue 105 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: as a career, and they became that generation of computer 106 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: engineers and scientists. Well, the problem is that we've got 107 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: these devices that are now so sophisticated and do so 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: much for us that that level of tinkering has been 109 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: taken out. It's really hard to tinker with a device 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: that's running, say, a sophisticated graphics uh graphic user interface. 111 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: You know you can You're not seeing the underlying programming 112 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: that's making this all go, and you might very well 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: not have very much exposure to it. And in fact, 114 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Upton's point was that he said that the students he 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: was encountering, most of them had little to no understanding 116 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: of any programming. If they had anything, it was HTML programming, 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: which is not really programming h g MLS markup language. 118 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: It changes the way stuff looks, but it's not truly 119 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: a pro gramming language. Right. You know, if I may 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: be permitted an analogy, I think it's sort of like 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: somebody going to say, you know what, I want to 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: become a mechanic, and somebody goes, okay, so you have 123 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: a car. What makes it go? Well, I step on 124 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: the gas and it makes it go. Yeah, But what 125 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: about the engine. What about the parts of an engine? 126 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: And you go, I don't I don't know the gas 127 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: makes it move forward. I know that I put the 128 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: groceries in the trunk and at the other end there's 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: something exactly. And that was that was Upton's point, was 130 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: that students only had a very superficial understanding of computers. 131 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: They had nothing. It's it seemed like it was getting 132 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: worse each year. Yeah. Now, I mean you you have 133 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: computers now, um that come with programming language is built 134 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: into the computer when you take it home and unwrap 135 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: it and take it out of the box, it's got 136 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: that stuff. But a lot of people don't even mess 137 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: with it. And he wanted, um, he wanted people to 138 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: be able to get started programming in a very inexpensive way. Yeah, 139 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: And so Upton realized, and it's this is all stated 140 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: on the Raspberry Pie Pie. It's it's stated on their 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: on their web page. So if you go to the 142 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: web page, you can actually read this whole story that 143 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: we're summarizing here. But Upton's point was that he knows 144 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: that access does not automatically solve a problem, right, but 145 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: that without access you can't solve a problem. And so 146 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: one of the things he thought would be important is 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to try and create a very very low cost computer 148 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: that would give people the opportunity to really play with 149 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: programming in a way that hasn't been seen since the 150 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: days of the Common War sixty four and other computers 151 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: of that era. And so he set out to try 152 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: and create as an affordable a computer as possible. This 153 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: is essentially it's a nonprofit approach. It's a charity approach 154 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: to this, UM too, so that you can get as 155 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: many of them into schools and into private hands as possible, 156 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: so that people kids mostly could really get their hands 157 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: on some programming, and perhaps this would inspire the next 158 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: generation of computer engineers. In fact, they're talking about the 159 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: possibility of a buy one, send one approach in the future. UM. 160 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: They as at the time we're recording this in January twelve, 161 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: they just started manufacturing these devices, probably within the last 162 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: uh six to eight weeks from what I understand, So 163 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: they're still pretty new and if you go to the shop, 164 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: they are not actually in the shop. The only thing 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: that's in the shop right now are stickers for keyboards, 166 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: so they might they might send one later. A lot 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: of the places like a one laptop per child do 168 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: that where you can you can purchase a machine for 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: someone else who may not otherwise be able to afford one, 170 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: and they will send it out and help somebody get started, 171 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: which I think is is a nice idea. And Raspberry 172 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: Pie does the same thing where you can choose by 173 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: where you can choose to actually send it to. Uh, 174 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, instead of purchasing one for your yourself, you 175 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: just spend the money in order for someone else to 176 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: have this device. So let's talk about what the device 177 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: actually is. Well, the device, Um, if you're looking for something, 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: if you're one of those people who looks at a 179 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: computer and it just works, uh, this device maybe kind 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: of mystifying to you because it doesn't have a case. 181 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: It looks like a circuit circuit board um with stuff 182 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: on it. Yep, it's it's kind of interesting. It is. 183 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: It is. It's the heart of a computer. But it's 184 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny size. Actually, I think I have the 185 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: the the diagram looks it looks like this. I'll hold 186 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: it up to the mic and you can everyone can 187 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: look at it at the Raspberry Pie site. Right now, 188 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna actually give the measurements 189 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: eighty five point six millimeters by fifty three point nine 190 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: eight millimeters and that's length and width that for the right. 191 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: So it's tiny. Yeah, it's it's about the size of 192 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: a I don't know, smartphone, a fablet. Yeah, it's the slice. 193 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: I hate that you did that. Just twitch in my forehead. 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: It's um. It's got. It's got a few UM interfaces 195 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: soldered onto the board. Um, of course it's got. It's 196 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: got a process or chip, a Broadcom b C m 197 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: ARM chip. It's seven mega hurts. It's not the fastest 198 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: thing in the world. But it does have an r 199 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: C A video out, an audio jack, UM USB too, 200 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: an Ethernet jack on one of the two. They have 201 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: an A and B model UM. They have an H 202 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: B H D M I port, micro USB for power, 203 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: and an SD card slot. It also will work on batteries. Yes, 204 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: C S four double as I think is what it 205 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: will work on. But you can also use the micro 206 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: USB and plug in a cable and either plug that 207 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: into another device or into a wall to power it. 208 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: So it's got no monitor installed, though you can hook 209 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: it up to one. It's got UM no, you know 210 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: it's got networking capabilities, no WiFi. It weighs forty five 211 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: grams or one tenth of a pound. It does have 212 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: a few L A D s to tell you how 213 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: it's working. Um and UM, yeah it's it's So essentially, 214 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: what you would do with this thing is, uh, let's 215 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: say that you have the model A. Okay, so you 216 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: would use an h d M I out probably for 217 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: you to go out to a television or a monitor, 218 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: and then you would use a three and a half 219 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: millimeter headphone jack. You would plug your headphones and so 220 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: you can get sound. Although like with HDM I, that's 221 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna carry sound too, so you can actually have sounds 222 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: straight through the monitor if your monitor has UM speakers 223 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: in it, So if you're using a television, you could 224 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: just use the TV speakers. Uh. You would also use 225 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: a USB keyboard and plug that into it, and then 226 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: you've got your keyboard user interface. If you want to 227 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: have a mouse, then what you would need to do 228 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: is get a USB hub, plug that into a keyboard. 229 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: That right, what in which case the keyboard itself as 230 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a hub. Um, but anyway, you gotta have a USB hub, 231 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: possibly in the shape of a keyboard. And then you 232 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: can plug your mouse and to that. And the thing 233 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: is that it doesn't have a hard drive on it, 234 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: but you could get a have a clock on it either. Yeah, 235 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you can get an external hard drive and and plug 236 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: that into it if you wanted to. Um, so you 237 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,479 Speaker 1: would have the using a using a lot of existing technology. 238 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: You might have to actually go out and buy the keyboard. 239 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Funny thing is the keyboard might actually cost more than 240 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the Raspberry Pie. It depends on because yeah, the two models, 241 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the Model A that has no Ethernet is twenty five dollars. 242 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: The Model B that has eithernet is a Princely. Bringing 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: the Princely back. There was a Model T and you 244 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: could get it in any color as long as it's black. 245 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: We'll be back to talk more about the Raspberry Pie 246 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: in just a moment. The two models dollars. That's incredibly 247 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: affordable for a fully functional computer. And you might wonder, well, 248 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: what does this computer run? These are designed to run 249 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: UH specific Linux distros. Yes, so we're not talking Windows 250 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: or the mac os or or even certain Linux distributions 251 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: like a Buntu do not work with it. Yet. It 252 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: doesn't run Android the moment. Originally it was going to 253 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: run a Buntu, but then Buntu realized the people behind 254 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: a Buntu realize that they were not hitting their schedule properly, 255 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: so they knew that they were not gonna be able 256 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: to build in support for Raspberry pie uh they did 257 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: the top. It did sound like that it's something that Canonical, 258 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: the company behind one too, and other distributions of Lenox 259 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: are are working on, but it's not currently available. The 260 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: specific ones that are available at launch are Debian, Fedora, 261 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: and arch Linux. Those are the three that can work 262 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: right at the top of the as soon as it's ships, 263 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: and there's been some beta once sent out already. It 264 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: also sounded like it's possible that they that that the 265 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: maker of Raspberry pie pi would be willing to accept 266 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: uh Android, but they're not going to apport it themselves 267 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: somebody else. If somebody else does it, they'll be cool 268 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: with that. But in other words, this this is a 269 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: very open source kind of approach where the community is 270 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: going to provide a lot of the actual content and 271 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: functionality beyond just the basics that the that the foundation 272 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: that has been created to do this well will do. Also, 273 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: the Model A and Model B I should mention they 274 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: also have different amounts of memory. Yes, sal A is 275 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: a tight megabytes of memory. Model B is two hundred 276 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: fifty six megabytes of memory. And uh, I think I 277 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: think the Model B actually has two USB ports, which 278 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: could be good because you could plug in a WiFi 279 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: dongle into uh, you know, one of the Raspberry Pie 280 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: devices um to to give it WiFi connectivity, but it's 281 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: not built into the to the board. Yeah. Yeah, that's 282 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: the nice thing about USB, right, is that the they're 283 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: so so many different peripherals that use that standard that 284 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: can really extend the functionality of any computer, but particularly 285 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: for something like this, where it's just a very creative 286 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: approach to solving this problem. So yeah, the whole goal 287 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: here is that you get this device in as many 288 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: hands as possible, and the Linux distros are designed in 289 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: such a way that that they do kind of harken 290 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: back to that commonore sixty four day where it's it's 291 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it requires a certain level of investment on the part 292 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: of the user to learn how the system works and 293 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: and to really kind of explore it um And that's 294 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: the whole purpose of this is not you know, it's 295 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: not just that it's a cheap computer that can get 296 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: into the hands of people. The the ultimate purpose is 297 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: to inspire people to really look into programming and learn 298 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: more about it and and possibly become the next you know, 299 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: genius programmer. Um. And so mainly they're going to be 300 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: working with the Python programming language, but there are also 301 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: other languages supported, including Basic, although it's from why I 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: understand it's a form of Basic called BBC Basic. There's 303 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: also the C programming language and Pearl. Okay, so, um, 304 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: there will be other languages probably added in support will 305 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: be added in later. Uh. And uh, it's any programming 306 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: language that the limitations that the program gramming language has 307 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: to have support for Linux because that's the obering system 308 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: and for ARM processors, because not every programming language works 309 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: with every processor. It's one of those tricky things about 310 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: computers is that, you know, you just when you think 311 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: you got it all figured out, you realize that there's 312 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: a hardware limitation. Yeah. But those those languages that you mentioned, 313 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: for the most part are process are neutral. Yeah. I 314 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: mean those uh, you know, Python, C, Pearl, those are 315 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: they're all you know, cross platform. Um. And you might 316 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: be saying, well, you know, you guys, that sounds pretty 317 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 1: cool and all. But uh, you know, for the general public, 318 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: why is that interesting? Well, for one thing, it gives 319 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: more people a chance to try out computer programming inexpensively. 320 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that if you've always wanted 321 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: to do, this could be a cool way to get 322 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: into uh uh to hacking and learning how to write 323 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: your own software and how computers work. And this is 324 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: this is an inexpensive way to get your your not 325 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: your feet wet, you're you're you could dive into you 326 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: could try programming. But um, but yeah, there there's also 327 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: another audience that again the Raspberry Pie people are not 328 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: discouraging at all, And those are the people who already 329 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: know how to do this stuff but want to try 330 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and making something else out of this little computer. And 331 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: one of the things I've already seen them do is 332 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: messing with x MBC, which is a media center at 333 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: an open source media center. Um and uh it's available again, 334 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: this is cross platform you can build your own. Remember 335 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: now is a podcast from a long time ago, building 336 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: your own uh media media center. Um. But this and 337 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: this operating system works for existing machines Lenox, Windows, mac 338 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: os ten um works on all of them. But they've 339 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: seen XNBC running on a Raspberry Pie. We've got a 340 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: little bit more to say about the Raspberry Pie after 341 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: these messages. So the question is what can makers do 342 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: with this device. We talked about the Arduino and the 343 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: micro controller board. This is another device like that, exactly 344 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: in the way that you can I would say, this 345 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: is this is two computers, is two circuits. Yes, so, 346 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I've already heard about people who are interested 347 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: in robotics using this as a component in in uh 348 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: their next robot. I also saw a video online of 349 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a I who had created a essentially what what amounts 350 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: to an Apple TV using this, where he could he 351 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: could push video from an iPad to a television through 352 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the Raspberry pie Pie. So yeah, so, I mean they're 353 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: the applications are numerous. So and and the nice thing 354 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: is at twenty five or thirty five dollars a pop, 355 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: it's a really affordable component. I mean, you're talking about 356 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: hobbies that you know, hobbyists in these areas are sometimes 357 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: accustomed to spending multiple hundreds of dollars on on projects. 358 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: So when you suddenly have like the brains of your 359 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: project is twenty five or thirty five dollars. That opens 360 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: up a lot of opportunities. I mean, even if you 361 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: went down to the computer store you said, I wanted 362 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: to build a computer, use for my computer, to have 363 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: a computer cheaper than now, And um, I believe they're 364 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: also talking about a case. So if that that's putting 365 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: you off, Yeah, there's no case right now, but that 366 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: there are plans for that in the future. Yeah, So 367 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: it's uh, because that's that's one thing some folks have said, like, well, 368 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: it looks a little cluji. It looks a little like, 369 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, you've got this hardware showing that to some 370 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: people just seems a little weird, like it looks like 371 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: you naked circuit board. Yeah, it looks like looks like 372 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: someone went crazy and took a radio apart or something 373 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: and now there's just the pieces sitting around. So there 374 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: is talk about creating a case, although I'm sure there's 375 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of people out there who are going 376 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: to The folks that I think really this appeals to 377 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: are the same ones who will go out and build 378 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: their own cases. Who will you know, you'll end up 379 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: seeing like some really crazy interesting variations on cases for 380 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: the Raspberry Pie pie. Uh and I've already seen a 381 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Lego based case. Yeah, yeah, it makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, 382 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: of course you don't want to completely steal it off, 383 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: because you've got to not only provide access to the ports, 384 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: but also provide a little cooling, um, make sure little 385 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Eric can get to it. But um, but yeah, I 386 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: mean for considering, it will take wired or wireless connections, 387 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: and I'm including power in that. Um. You can do 388 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: all kinds of things with this little device, um and 389 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: possibly get a whole new generation of people interested in 390 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: what it takes to uh to learn programming and learn 391 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: what you can do with computers of all kinds. Um. 392 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: You know, I think this is an excellent opportunity and 393 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: i'm a great idea. UM. And the nice thing is 394 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: too that all the hackers will who are buying up 395 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: the machines will also provide money for the charity side, um, 396 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: who can then possibly distribute these two people who are 397 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: just getting started who may not necessarily have the money 398 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: to to get involved. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a it's 399 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: a really cool idea. And I all that I can 400 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: predict already that I'm gonna pick one of these up 401 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: as I can, because I mean for thirty five dollars, 402 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: how can I not? And Uh, it would be just 403 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: be cool to have something where I could, you know, 404 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: have a device specifically where I'm learning to program, maybe 405 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: do a couple of these hacks, uh and uh and 406 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: just sort of experiment with it, you know, use it 407 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: for what it was intended for, really, to to to 408 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: learn about programming. And uh, frankly, I've I've while I 409 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: know about programming, I've never really gotten into it on 410 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: a deep level back when I was a kid. I 411 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: started getting into it with basic but but you know, 412 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I never went far beyond the program that when you 413 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: tell it to run, it prints out a picture of 414 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: a cake or something, maybe a pie. But I was 415 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: trying to avoid it because I think at this point 416 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: of people have been counting up how many times we've 417 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: said pie. They've got to be exhausted by now. Well, 418 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: you know we'd have to stick with that because the 419 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: cake is a lie. Yes, So this is this is 420 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: seriously nifty, stuffy, um, and and these the things that 421 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: you're learning are not just applicable to uh, this computer, 422 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: but also to other computers and can start to other stuff. 423 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: It's really good because it will give you the foundation 424 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: the basics that you need to be able to to 425 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: build more complex programs. And uh and once you get 426 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: that that foot in the door, where you've got that understanding, 427 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: then it's really all it's just up to you about 428 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: how far you want to go. So yeah, I'm really 429 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: excited to see how this develops and whether or not 430 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: it ends up being a successful program. I certainly hope 431 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: it is, because it's clear that that the people who 432 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: are part of this foundation, their hearts are in the 433 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: right place. And uh and again, you know, they recognize 434 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: that creating an accessible machine is just part of the problem. 435 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: You can't, you know, you can't just give people access 436 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: to stuff and expect that to solve everything. But uh, 437 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: it's a good first step. So hopefully maybe maybe in 438 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: a generation or two, maybe maybe less, but maybe like 439 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: in in ten years, when Cambridge is looking at the 440 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: people the students that are are applying to study computers, 441 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: they're going to find that, uh, they're much more um 442 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: knowledgeable about the field than the folks who applied this year. No, 443 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: no slight against anyone who's at Cambridge, by the way, 444 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I have I have nothing but respect for your comedy programs. 445 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: But I mean that produced half of money python okay, 446 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: but um yeah. And and another nice thing is since 447 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: it is a charity organization, I feel comfortable giving out 448 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: their address on the podcast, which is raspberry Pie with 449 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: you know p I not the with an e um 450 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: dot org Now dot com is also also belongs to them, 451 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: but that's the store specifically. If you want to learn 452 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: more about the device and the and the group that 453 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: that is making it and all of that, go to 454 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: the raspberry pie dot org site and they won't uh 455 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: provide you with all the information you need there. And 456 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what kind of craze the 457 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: hacks come out of all this, because you know, there 458 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: are gonna be people out there who are going to 459 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: apply this in ways that we just can't even conceive 460 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: of at this moment. And uh, and those are going 461 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: to be really awesome. It's gonna have an instant following, 462 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: I think, just because it's so affordable and people are 463 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna want to mess with it, even people who are 464 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily uh you know, the people you would consider 465 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: makers or hackers. Now I think they'll go you know, 466 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: and I can afford that I'm gonna try it. I 467 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed that classic episode. Like I said, I've 468 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: been thinking about creating a main machine, a multi arcade 469 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: machine emulator, and emulators are all about using hardware or 470 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: software to replicate some other form of hardware or software. 471 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: You are emulating it, so you're trying to replicate the effects, 472 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: but you're not necessarily following in the exact same. You know, 473 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: UM structure as the original piece of technology, and with 474 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: main machine, you're talking about a device that is capable 475 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: of playing arcade games on it. So the first thing 476 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: you have to do is build a main machine. And 477 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: the Raspberry Pie has proven to be a very popular 478 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: choice for people who are in that hobby. UM right now, 479 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the Raspberry Pie four is the divisive choice, but we 480 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: do expect to have the fifth version of Raspberry Pie 481 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: released sometime this year, so I've been holding off a 482 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: bit waiting for that before I kind of dip my 483 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: toe in and try and do this just to kind 484 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: of future proof it a little bit. But yeah, the 485 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: whole idea is that you you get the machine, you 486 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: program it, you get a a memory card reader, and 487 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: you get a memory card that has what they're called 488 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: images of games. On it. All of this can get 489 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: a little tricky, like there are ways to go about 490 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: this in a legal way, because, uh, there are a 491 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: lot of folks out there who have images of these games, 492 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: but they didn't actually have permission to do it, so 493 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tricky. I want to make sure I 494 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: do this, you know, in an upright, straightforward way. I 495 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: don't believe in just cases it may just be that 496 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: it's abandoned game, where like the there are no entities 497 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: that own the rights anymore for some of these games, 498 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: and in those cases it gets a little you know, 499 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: fuzzy about whether or not it's ethical to download an image. 500 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: But that's pretty far off for me. I still have 501 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: to actually get the device itself and then get all 502 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: the other components together to make an arcade cabinet. Uh. 503 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: This was just one of those projects that I think 504 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: would be kind of neat to do, and I've looked 505 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: at a lot of videos online about it. So that's 506 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: why I thought it would be fun to go back 507 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: to this classic episode and learn about the Raspberry Pie. Now. Granted, 508 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: things have changed quite a bit since that original Raspberry Pie. 509 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: There have been multiple versions that have come out since 510 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: then with more advanced capabilities, but the purpose is still 511 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: the same. It's a simplified computer device that allows for 512 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: programming experience on a level that otherwise would probably be 513 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: prohibitively expensive. So very interesting, and a lot of people 514 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: use raspberry pies for all sorts of projects, not just 515 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, arcade machines, but there are people who use 516 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: it in robotics and other interesting technological applications that really 517 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: show an incredible sense of innovation. So I highly recommend 518 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: you check into raspberry pies if you have any interest 519 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: at all on that, even if you just want to 520 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: see what people have done with it and what is 521 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: possible with it. There's an entire community out there that 522 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: is incredible, and I encourage you to check it out. 523 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: If you have suggestions for topics we should cover on 524 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: future episodes of tech Stuff, please reach out to me. 525 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Best way to do that is on Twitter. The handle 526 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: for the show is text Stuff HSW and I'll talk 527 00:29:51,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: to you again relea soon. 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