1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Live from our Nations. This budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: do nothing. Space Force. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and Politics colliding, 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound on the insideings the influencers, the insides. I 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: The President has to do exactly what people send him 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirling on Floomberg and 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven h D two. Bernie Sanders 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Senior adviser Jeff Weaver is here in studio. He's telling 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: us all about the field Medicare for All, the economic plan, 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: and how a president Bernie Sanders would negotiate with China. 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of China, the President also has China on his mind. 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: We will dive into the specifics the latest developments between 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the US and China trade deal. Jeff Weavers here. James Holman, 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: national political correspondent from the Washington Post, author of the 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: Daily Duo two. He's gonna stop by, as is Hagar Shamali, 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: CEO of Greenwich Media Strategies, former Treasury spokesperson for Terrorism 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: and Financial Intelligence. We've got such a great show. We 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: are following all of the latest developments surrounding the US 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: China trade deal, potential for there to be continued unrest. Now. 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: For quite some time, economists worried about the looming a 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: potential looming economic recession. Jeff Weaver is a senior advisor 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: to Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. He's here with me in studio. 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: We were talking about this a little bit earlier on 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television. But how would President Bernie Sanders negotiate with China? Well, 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: look at Kevin, you know, as we were discussing, you know, 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders has been very critical of all of these 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: pro corporate job killing trade deals NAFTA, pnt our with China, 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: UH and the rest. But the difference is Bernie Sanders, 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: unlike Donald Trump, would not go in there with a 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: hand grad aide. And that's what the president has really done. 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean at a very base level. You know what 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: your listeners should think. The Chinese really take Donald Trump seriously, 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, uh, and we're very different into 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders a White House. I mean, the goal number 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: one is to make sure that we negotiate deals which 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: do not bleed American jobs. Uh, and they did not negatively, 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: in fact impact working people and the environment. Uh. You know, 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: that's job number one. But in terms of the deals 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: we already have, Look, I do think we have to 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: renegotiate a bunch of those deals, Burnie Sanders, and we 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: need to renegotiate a bunch of those deals, but you 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: do it, uh, in a in a way that does 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: not sort of blow everything up. In the meantime, Jeff, 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: when I was preparing for this show, I was really 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: kept coming back to one of these questions that we 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: hear so much in the chattering class here in Washington. 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that chattering chattering class. And it's 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: at this point that President Donald Trump sort of upended 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: is you have trade policy in the Republican Party and 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: went against, so to speak, the Chamber of Commerce and whatnot. 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: He's using tariffs. The business community, the big business community 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: is against tariffs. Many Republicans have argued that the president 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: needs to back off. What do you say to folks 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: who would would argue that, well, Senator Sanders might use tariffs, 59 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: Senator Warren might use tariffs. And how does that factor 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: into sort of this this shift that we've seen on 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: trade policy amongst the two parties. Well, look, you know 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: American trade policy, you know that's going back to at 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: least the nineteen nineties, has you know, has been driven 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: by the big money interests in this country. You know, 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and the DLC, you know, Democratic Leadership Council 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: also known as the Democrats for the leisure class and 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: some circles you know, drove this sort of corporate friendly 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: trade policy which had a couple of bad impacts, one 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: of which was a decimated UH industrial capacity in this country, 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: and the otherwise it really shattered the Democratic Party and 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: the traditional sience between the party and labor. And I 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of working people, you know, who had 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: looked to the Democratic Party historically to protect their interest 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: suddenly realized that you had an administration and you had 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: a new set of priorities uh that were not in 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: line with them, and that actually created the space for somebody, 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: a demagogue like Trump to come in, uh and take 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot of votes away from the Democratic Party. Do 79 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you think Jeff Weaver, Senior advisor to Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Do you think the US is headed toward another economic recession? Well, look, 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, it seems to me that we're probably getting 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: to the end. And I think a lot of folks 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: in the financial sector of saying this as well. We're 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: probably getting close to the end of the Obama recovery 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: now been about to enter the Trump recession potentially. And 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, one of the problems we've had in this 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: country is that because so much of the income, new 88 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: income and wealth is going to the top. You know, 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: the working people of this country and people living in 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: marginalized communities are economically very, very fragile. And so if 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: we could create an economy, in fact, where more of 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the money went to people at the bottom, who, as 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: we all know, spend it almost immediately because they have 94 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: so many needs, you know, I think we would create 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: a much more stable economy in the long run. Right now, again, 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: we end up in these booms and boomed and bust cycles. 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: You have some few people the top with so much money, uh, 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: and they all chase the latest h balloon, economic balloon 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: or economic bubble. Uh, and that bubble always bursts. What's 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the difference to stick with trade? What what what's the 101 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: difference between how presidential Biden would negotiate with China and 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: how President Sanders would negotiate with China. Well, I don't 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: want to like, I don't want to speak for Vice 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: President Biden. You know he has a record on trade. 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, he has said he's not has no apologies 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: for his vote on a NAFTA quite shockingly. Uh. But look, 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the goal of negotiating with another country is to create 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: an agreement which is mutually beneficial, but not just in 109 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the aggregate, to make sure that it is mutually beneficial 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: to a broad range of people in the country, and 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: that includes working people, farmers. You know. One of the 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: problems with the Trump approach dealing with China, uh is 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, he looks at it from a very xenophobic 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: or nationalist point as opposed to looking about about how 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: it impacts various sectors of the American population. So, you know, 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: he has said this attack on China, but you know, 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: the farmers and Iowa and other places are really ones 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: are getting caught in the crossfire because his eye is 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: not on the ball of helping working people and small 120 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: business people. You know, it's about advancing this sort of 121 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: xenophobic agenda. Jeff Weavers here coming up. We're gonna talk 122 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: Medicare for all. We're gonna talk about the crowded field. 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: He's a senior adviser to Senator Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: But before all of that is this. We were talking 125 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about this, and I wanted to get 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: another longer time. Is this Joe Biden's Democratic Party? Jeff Weaver, Now, 127 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: look absolutely not. You know, the party has trained changed 128 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: dramatically in the last twenty years. Of the rank and file, 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and democratically aligned Independence are moving in 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: a much more progressive direction. I think we saw that 131 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: in sixteen. I think you're seeing it now. Uh. And 132 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, there are there is a sort of you know, 133 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: I call the Democratic donor class which still clings to 134 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the sort of nineteen nineties uh, you know, pro corporates viewpoint. 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: But the vast majority of the party has moved on. Frankly, uh. 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: And that is what we have got to do if 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: we're going to beat Trump and move the country in 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: a very different direction. All right, Jeff Stick here, we're 139 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Medicare for all. And a host of 140 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: other issues coming up. Jeff Weavers here. He's senior advisor 141 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: to Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. 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I'm Kevin Serelli, Chief Washington correspond 151 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: it FRO, Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio. We're talking all things 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: with someone caught in the middle of it all. He's 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: here in studio, Jeff Weaver. We are thrilled to have him. 154 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: He's a senior advisor to Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. Was 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: with the Bernie Sanders campaign last cycle as well. All right, 156 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: let's talk medicare for all. Let's just let's do it 157 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: its Senator Kamala Harris's medicare plan Medicare for All, No, 158 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Uh. You know, it is a system that 159 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: essentially relies on private companies. Look, Medicare for all, UH 160 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: is a concept which exists, of course, and can in 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: other places where you have a single pool of patients, 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: which is everybody. Uh, you take out the private insurance companies, 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: which creates a tremendous amount of free money in the system, 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: which allows you to extend coverage uh to everybody. In fact, 165 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: there's been a number of studies would show that you 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: can extend coverage to everybody and the country as a 167 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: whole will pay less than it pays now with no copayments, 168 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: no deductibles, and complete freedom of choice provider, which is 169 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: something that most people in this country do not have. 170 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: So on the issue of Medicare for all, just sticking 171 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: with this because this is a fascinating issue that your 172 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: boss really carried the party with him and made it 173 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: an issue, created the box that candidates are trying to check. 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: On the issue of Medicare for all, the Biden campaign says, okay, well, 175 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: if we have Medicare for all, what do you tell 176 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: the union worker who's negotiating their healthcare, are they gonna 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: lose their health care? Look, and let me say generally 178 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: before we talk about unions. You know, anybody who has 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: somewhat better healthcare than their neighbor and is afraid about 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote losing it. It's a little bit like the 181 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: person who's in the Economy Plus who paid an extra 182 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: nineteen bucks and you come back and say, I'm putting 183 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: you in first class and you're like, hey, I paid 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: nineteen dollars for Economy plus. You're like, you're gonna go 185 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: to first class. But on the union point specifically, you know, 186 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: that's a very easy thing to address. You know, what 187 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: you do is, you know, unions and the companies negotiate, 188 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: both of them do very exhaustive calculations of the overall 189 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: value of the compensation package, which includes wages, healthcare, and 190 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: other benefits. And all you have to do is require 191 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: that if and when Medicare for comes for all comes 192 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: into place, that you require the company to give that 193 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: the savings that they realize back to the workers in 194 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: other wages and benefits, which they can negotiate out with 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: the individual unions in that case. So it's you know, 196 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: there is not It's not a situation where these workers 197 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna lose some part of their compensation. You just require 198 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: the companies to give it to them in other ways, 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day, workers will 200 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: have better health care and they'll have higher wages. So 201 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: let's say the company, the company doesn't increase the wages. 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: What happens then? Well, look, I think, you know, I 203 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: think that the approach that the Senator has been working 204 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: on is one where you would create let's call it 205 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: a tax uh advantage or a disadvantage for not doing 206 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: it that's sufficiently heavy that the companies would would in 207 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: fact do it. I saw this on the Boomberg terminal 208 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: that Senator Elizabeth Warren has embraced Sanders Medicare for all. Uh. 209 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you think that he's getting enough credit it for 210 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: for his Medicare for All plans? Look, you know, actually 211 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: have been a number of polls recently among Democratic primary voters, 212 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: and regardless of where voters are on the horse race, 213 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: and every one of those polls, Bernie Sanders is the 214 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: most trusted a person on healthcare among Democratic primary voters. So, 215 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is an issue that voters know Bernie 216 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Sanders has led on for decades. Frankly. Uh, they understand, 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, because they feel it every day. The excesses 218 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: of the insurance company who tells them they can't have 219 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: this procedure, that procedure, that they have to see this 220 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: doctor or that doctor, or the pharmaceutical company, h companies 221 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: that are ripping them off exorbitantly. People feel it in 222 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: their everyday lives. They know Bernie Sanders stands with them 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: and that he has been a leader on this particular 224 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: I know one more crushing on the horse racer and 225 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: I wanted just a couple on policy. Everyone wants to know. 226 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: Everyone knows their friends, Elizabeth Moore and Bernie Sanders. When 227 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: is the truce break? There's no truce quote unquote truce. 228 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: But you know true, I shouldn't have said truce. When 229 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: does the good will end? Well, I don't think. Look, 230 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: they are friends, uh in fact, uh, and there is 231 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: a lot of good will between them. And you know 232 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: what I think is going on right now is that 233 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: there is a debate and the party you mentioned earlier 234 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: is just Joe Biden's party. Uh. And I think that 235 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: what we are seeing is a reckoning of the fact 236 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: that it is not Joe Biden's party, it's not the 237 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: corporative wing of the Democratic Party's party. It's the progressive wing. 238 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: And as we get closer to the actual data voting, 239 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: I think people will start to look at the individual candidates. 240 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: But right now there's really a victory of the progressive 241 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: wing over this sort of withering uh corporate failed, corporate 242 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: swing at the party. And that's what you're seeing. What 243 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: you saw in the second debate with Bernie Sanders, uh 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: with Elizabeth Warren support defending the progressive agenda, you bringing 245 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: it back absolutely? Why is that important? Why is it important? Look, 246 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: people who do banking should do banking. People should other things, 247 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: should do other things, Like I think we saw in 248 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the last procession that the intertwined nature of the financial 249 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: services market uh really cost this country a tremendous amount 250 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: of money. Like it creates structural it creates the ability 251 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: for companies to create uh systemic uh collapse in this country, 252 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and we've got to stop that, alright, Jeff Weaver, so 253 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: much to talk about. What about this? The last policy 254 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: thing I want to ask you for folks who say, 255 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: how are you gonna pay for free college for all? 256 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: What was the answer, Well, the free college for all 257 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: one asked, actually is a quite easy to answer. Bernie 258 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Sanders has talked about imposing a financial transactions tax and 259 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: anti speculation tax, which is you know other countries have, 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: many other countries have, and that this would in fact 261 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: provide enough money to do two things. One is to 262 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: UH create tuition free public colleges and universities and vocational schools. UH. 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: And it would also allow Bernie Sanders administration to cancel 264 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: all currently existing student debt. Final question, we're doing the 265 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: lightning round everybody. Jeff Weaver, the senior advisor to Bernie 266 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Sanders presidential campaign, has been so generous with his time. 267 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Is if he's not in Iowa or New Hampshire, he's 268 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: been so generous with this time. But the final question 269 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: that I have for you is on the issue pertaining 270 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: specifically to you trade policy and specifically to the Green 271 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: New Deal. And what do you say to a worker 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: in a refinery or a worker in a coal mine, 273 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: who here's the Green New Deal and maybe they're maybe 274 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: they're in a union, maybe they're progressive, or they decided 275 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: between Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders in the last cycle, 276 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: those voters exist. What do you say to someone one 277 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: of those workers. She says, Wait, this Green New Deal 278 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: is gonna shut down this refinery, The screen New Deal 279 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: is gonna cost me and my family my job. This 280 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: s green New deal could could cost coal miners and 281 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: and and really dramatically upend the way that that the 282 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: town that I'm a part of, uh, that is a 283 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: part of me, uh operates. Oh yeah, well that's a 284 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: great question. And let me let me say this. You know, 285 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: I hope everybody understands that Bernie Sanders does not believe 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: that coal miners and refinery workers are some kind of 287 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: enemy here. But there is a a global crisis and 288 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: in fact affects uh the children and grandchildren of coal 289 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: miners and refinery workers like everybody else. That's why it's 290 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: called a green New deal all and the new deal. 291 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: Part of this is that we are going to ensure 292 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that people who work in those industries are not displays. 293 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: This is not about just giving folks a job training. 294 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: This is about ensuring the economic security of folks who 295 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: currently work in industries. UH. You know that will play 296 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: a much much, much less part of our economy going forward. 297 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Weaver, thanks so much for coming in. Thanks for 298 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: talking about all these issues. We hope to get your 299 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: boss on eventually. Jeff Weaver, everybody, he's a senior advisor 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to Bernie Sanders twenty presidential campaign, very much appreciate the time. 301 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: Coming up. We pivots a foreign policy here. Garshamali is back. 302 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: James Holman from The Washington Post is back. Download the 303 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, Bloomberg dot com, 304 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You can also 305 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. 306 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio, 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 308 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: The funding of the role right now is never looked better. 309 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: We have really fair deals that we have many deals 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: in the works and Nationalist if would like, they are 311 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: doing studies on Donald Trump. They're trying to figure it 312 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: all out. Behind the tweet with Kevins rely on Bloomberg 313 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: and one oh fived two m. Keevins Cirelli, Chief Washington 314 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Correspondent FRO Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio. There's been a lot 315 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: that the President has been tweeting about. Today, he tweeted, quote, 316 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: it would show great weakness if Israel allowed representatives Omar 317 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: and representatives to Lead to visit. They hate Israel and 318 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: all Jewish people, and there is nothing that can be 319 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan 320 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: will have a hard time putting them back in office. 321 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: They are a disgrace. End quote. It came following Israeli 322 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Benjamin Netton Yahoo's barring of those two congresswomen 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: that I just mentioned from entering into Israel. Hagar Shamali 324 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: is CEO of Greenwich Media Strategies, former Treasury spokesperson for 325 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. She's back and James Homan making 326 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: his Lolomberg radio sound on debut is a national political 327 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: correspondent for the Washington Post. He is also the author 328 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: of the daily two oh two. I cannot start my 329 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: day without it. James, Why is President Trump and Prime 330 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Minister Neton Yahoo talking like this? Well, Prime Minister nat Yah, 331 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: who has a strong political incentive with the upcoming redo 332 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: election to placate his base. President Trump, you know, his 333 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: a bone and he's running after it. He thinks that 334 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: this is good politics for him. He thinks that it's 335 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: helpful to go after the squad as they call themselves, 336 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: two of the four members. That this excites his folks, 337 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: that it sets up kind of a culture war clash 338 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: that he thinks works to his advantage and excites his base. Um. 339 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, one of the thing that that struck me 340 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: the most is r it's so clear that this is 341 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: a ploy by President Trump, that that Prime Miister Neton, Yeah, 342 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: who played into um. And it shocks me that you 343 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: know that he that he was goaded into it, especially 344 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: after the ambassador, the Israeli ambassador to the United States 345 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: had already affirmed that you know, this wouldn't happen, they 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be barred entry. UM. But the part that um, 347 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, if this is it's an unprecedented move. I 348 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: certainly haven't seen anything like this, UM in recent history 349 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: where a U. S President is gonna is asking a 350 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: foreign government to take action against a US government official. 351 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: When we impose visa bands here against outside officials is 352 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: because they pose a threat to the United States. It's 353 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: a serious move. And it's not just the tweets Cigar 354 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: and James that that that he's tweeted about earlier today, 355 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: just within the last half hour, President Trump speaking briefly 356 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: to reporters before boarding a plane in New Jersey to 357 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: head to Manchester, New Hampshire, where he's gonna have a 358 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: rally there later tonight. Uh. And he says that on 359 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: the issue with China, for example, he says, quote that 360 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: the September China meeting is still on as I understand it. 361 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: He says that the longer the trade ward goes on, 362 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the stronger the US gets. Trump says, China doing poorly. 363 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: He wants to make a deal. And then he added, 364 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: and this is this is why I'm saying. This is 365 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: because on the issue of Israel and Omar, he says 366 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: that the President Trump says, I'm reading from the Bomberg 367 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: terminal Omar until we have said quote unquote disgraceful things. 368 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a fight to James point. I mean, James, 369 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: he wants to have this fight, even if it makes 370 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: many people, and he's not thinking long term. You know, 371 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: obviously this sets a precedent where you know, if we're 372 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: if he's telling I mean, it's one of the one 373 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: of the many norms that he's challenged over the last 374 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: two years. I mean, this is one of the more 375 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: significant ones because it does create a precedent for other countries. 376 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: If you know, if UH procurred, Republican members of Congress 377 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: should kenturkey and exclude them from coming into the country. Now, 378 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, Trump is Trump is opening a Pandora's box. 379 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: But that's not how he's thinking. He's thinking im purely 380 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: in electoral politics terms and also sort of in short term, 381 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: immediate terms. The reality is, if they had just let 382 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: these two congresswomen come, it wouldn't have been a very 383 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: big deal. It wouldn't have been the biggest story in 384 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: the news for a day, let alone multiple day. Is 385 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: and and in that sense, you know, Trump, I think 386 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: Candy's worst enemy. But again I think here there is 387 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a method to the madness. Let me let me play 388 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: for you, Huggar. What Congressman Tim Ryan had to say 389 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: about the about this whole whole matter. He was asked 390 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: about it earlier today out on the campaign trail. Here's 391 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: Congressman Tim Ryan, Democrat from Ohio. I really think the 392 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: issue with Trump is that he's coming unhinged because this 393 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: looming recession. We saw him go off the rails yesterday. 394 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: Now today it's this, It'll be something tomorrow. And the 395 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: more that heat gets cranked up, and the more this 396 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: economy softens, the less he's going to be able to 397 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: keep his stuff together. You know. It's funny. This morning, 398 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: when I saw his tweet, my first thought was, you know, 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: is it a boring days? There's something that he is, 400 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: There a reason he he. I knew that the punditry 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: would be crazy because it's so it's such a it's 402 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: such a ridiculous move, you know. But the thing is, 403 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the Israelis were upon 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: in this right. They, on the contrary, should have insisted 405 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: that the congresswoman come to Israel, meet Israeli officials, meet 406 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: with Israeli opposition. And by the way, I would add 407 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: to this that I think the congresswomen are should have 408 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: also included on their trip visits to Israel and visits 409 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: to different parts of Israel, the Israeli officials and the opposition. 410 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: Having been in the government, yeah, I mean, having been 411 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: in the government a long time, it's kind of weird 412 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: not to go to Israel's were so many I mean, 413 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: there's so many things we work with together with them 414 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: in right, whether it's defense or counter terrorism or technology 415 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: or whatever. But Representative I'm I'm being a little bit 416 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: humorous here, But what you're saying is so important. Right, 417 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: You're going to Israel, the airports in Tel Aviv, You're 418 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: going to Israel. You you know, Representative Omar said in 419 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: her statement that you know, as someone who sits on 420 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: the House Form Affairs Committee and she oversees appropriations, it's 421 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: important for her to be informed. She's right, of course, 422 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: it's important for her to be informed. Going to one 423 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: side is not being informed. You have to go to 424 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: both sides. Period. Yeah, and this is this ensures I think, 425 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of the problems is obviously so many 426 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Democrats aren't solidly reliably pro Israel. And this, I think again, 427 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: in the short term way, it feels like this is 428 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: going to divide this the Israel relationship shouldn't be partisan. 429 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: And uh and and this is uh, this is problematic 430 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: because it's going to force Democrats to you know, in 431 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: taking the side of the you know, it's not like 432 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna all of a sudden become pro b d 433 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: S or anything. But what it does is it it 434 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: makes Israel look partisan. It makes Israel look like a 435 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: republican issue, and the strength of the Alliance for so 436 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: long has been that it's not I want to pivot's 437 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: to Hong Kong because the President just within the last 438 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: half hour briefly telling reporters that he wants to see 439 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: China solve Hong Kong in a humane way. He went 440 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: on to say that he wouldn't want to see violent 441 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: Hong Kong crackdown. Hog are We've been talking about this 442 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: all week in the situation in Hong Kong. What do 443 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: you make now of the presidents from within the last 444 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: half hour or so, I mean, listen, it's not bad, 445 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: but not great. He we're looking to the president to 446 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: express support for the protesters. He's got to do that, 447 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's important. It's a representative of our value. Um. 448 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: I was at the White House when we had the 449 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Arab Spring, and I remember dealing with these issues, and 450 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: so I can appreciate that. It's it's confusing that you know, 451 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to go out too far, you don't 452 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: want to put the carpet for the horse. But these 453 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: these um, these protests haven't taken have been going on 454 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: for a while, and they're demanding things that are very 455 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: fair and and um, the Chinese are are playing dirty 456 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: with the deals that they had with you know, when 457 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: they took over the territory. So yeah, he's got to 458 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: be clearer about it. He's not being James Holman. What's 459 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that You're the political zeitgeist master here, you know all 460 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: of the political insides and out. It's like I'm talking 461 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: to like Mike Allex Protege, but what do you say, 462 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: what is the political calculation for President Trump? Not, to 463 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: car Gar's point, going as aggressively out in favor of 464 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Hong Kong as it's all about trade. It's all about trade. 465 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: It's all it's all about again domestic political considerations. Trump 466 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: is not, you know, a lowercaseted democrat. He's not someone 467 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: who's kind of, you know, on the side of you know, 468 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: on the there if you if you think about every 469 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: kind of leader, what side of the barricades there on? 470 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: You know, are they storming the barricades? Are they on 471 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: their side of the barricades? Donal Trump's on the other 472 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: side of the barricades kind of guy. Uh And and 473 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, he made a he made a 474 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: commitment during a phone call that caught his AIDS off guard, 475 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: with She Jinping saying I won't criticize you publicly for 476 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Hong Kong a few weeks ago. That was reported by 477 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: the Financial Times a few weeks ago. But then subsequently, 478 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, other people have have followed up on that reporting, 479 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: and and AIDS have been going to the President and saying, 480 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. You know, you need to speak out, 481 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: and he won't and uh and so I think you 482 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: know he's responding to some pressure to do so. And 483 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: she pig made a deal of fetanel that he totally 484 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: went back on. All Right, we're gonna talk more politics 485 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: and policy with an all star panel James Holman of 486 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, Everybody, the author of the Daily two 487 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: oh two, and Garshamali, CEO of Greenwich Media Strategy, former 488 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: spokesperson for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence at the Treasury Department. 489 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple, it Tunes, 490 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. 491 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: You can also find us on Radio dot com, I 492 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin Sirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. 493 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg 494 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 495 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 496 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. It's been a jam pack news day. We 497 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: have been covering all things on the program, and it's 498 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: now time for a segment that I like to call 499 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: What's on your Radar? And we've got two political all stars, 500 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: James Home and Everybody. He's first time on Bloomberg sound On. 501 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: He's national political correspondent for the Washington Post and author 502 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of one of my daily must reads, The Daily two 503 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: O two. And he Garshamali, CEO of Greenwich Media Strategies. 504 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: She's really like our resident foreign policy expert of Bloomberg 505 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Sound On, but she's also the former Treasury spokesperson for 506 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. I'm gonna start off because one 507 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: of the things that's on my radar has has been 508 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: this tragic story from I grew up right outside of 509 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Delco. Uh and last night there was that 510 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: shooting and police officers in Philadelphia getting shot in Philadelphia, 511 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: and you lead with this in your Daily Note today. 512 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: James Home in in the Washington Post Daily two O two, 513 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: you said, The headline reads, police officers keep getting shot 514 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: by people with criminal records who are not allowed to 515 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: own guns. The President tweeting about this as well, this 516 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: this notion as well. Earlier today, Senate Majority Leader Mitch 517 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: McConnell has said that when lawmakers returned from congressional recess 518 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: in September, they're gonna try to get something done, some 519 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: type of bipartisan legislative fixed done and timber. But talk 520 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: about what you what you report today in the Daily 521 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: to yes, this is part of a pattern, unfortunately, Kevin, 522 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: I wish I could say it was just this terrible 523 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: incident in Philadelphia, But earlier this week, in fact, two 524 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: police officers were killed in California, uh in one in 525 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and that was a very similar situation. The 526 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: guy in Philadelphia had an incredibly long rap sheet, including 527 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: a lot of gun crimes convictions that made him legally 528 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: ineligible to buy a gun. Obviously he's still got one. 529 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: There are lots and lots of ways to get guns 530 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: in America. For for most Americans, they can do it 531 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: legally and easily. For others, even if you're you're banned 532 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: by law from getting a gun. You can still get 533 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: them at um. There's gun show loopholes. You can buy 534 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: parts online and assemble them. You can buy them underground 535 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: through gangs that are trafficking them. There's a host of 536 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: different ways that people are are able to get guns 537 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: even when they're not allowed to. And I think you 538 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: know those are they're breaking the law as it is 539 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: on the books. That doesn't mean that you can't pass 540 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: new laws or change things, but it is something that 541 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: lawmakers have to grapple with us. They're trying to make 542 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: public policy. How do you prevent these people who shouldn't 543 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: have guns, who aren't currently allowed to have them, from 544 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: getting them? And uh, and so there are a lot 545 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: of loopholes, and it doesn't sound like some of those 546 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: loopholes are are under consideration, which is what I tried 547 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: to write about this morning that you certainly you know, 548 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: expanding background checks would make it harder for some of 549 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: these folks to get guns. There was also a case 550 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: in Arkansas a couple of weeks ago where a cop 551 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: was killed a sheriff's deputy. But but you have to 552 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's changes to the law that can 553 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: be made that would stop these kinds of things from happening. 554 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: I grew up reading the Delco Daily Times. I also 555 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: grew up reading the Philadelphia Inquirer. One of the journalists 556 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: there Aubrey Wale, and covering this story. We went to 557 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: college together. And the headline of this story, I'm gonna 558 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: tweet it out. I mean, you have to read this. 559 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: The headline reads, after hours of fear, terrified parents comfort 560 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: children after daycare lockdown near North Philly police shooting. Uh. 561 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: This story just puts into perspective. That's seven and a 562 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: half hours, seven and a half hour standoff in North Philadelphia. 563 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I can't. I don't want to imagine that. 564 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: But that's the reality that Philadelphia is waking up to 565 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: today and it's the reality for this this community. Excellent 566 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: reporting James in the Daily two oh two on this. 567 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: So that's what's on my radar. I can't stop thinking 568 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: about it. And kudos to the Philadelphia Police for everything 569 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: that they've done on on this issue and the work 570 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: that they did in that community. James, what's on your radar? So, 571 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, like you mentioned a few minutes ago in Manchester, 572 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, tonight, Loveshire. He won the New Hampshire primary 573 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: after he lost the Iowa caucus in and everybody said, 574 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a ground game. And I'll never forget this. 575 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: That is victory speech. He goes, we learned a lot 576 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: about a ground game. And you know who He pointed to, 577 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Corey Lewandowski. And Corey is from New Hampshire and he 578 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: has been an operat of in New Hampshire for a 579 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: long time, manage to Senate race there, work for the 580 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Cokes there and uh, and Corey kind of has gotten 581 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: the political bug of wanting himself to run for office. 582 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: He's leaning toward running for Senate. Uh. Every Republican kind 583 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: of from the establishment wing of the party, everyone who 584 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: was against Trump in has been pleading with the National Party, 585 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: with the White House, with the President not to endorse 586 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Korey Luandowski. They say he will not be able to 587 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: beat Jean Shaheen, the incumbent Democratic senator there. They say 588 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: that if if Korey Lewandowski is the Republican nominee for Senate, 589 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: what it would likely do is mean that the Republican 590 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: governor there, Kris and Nuni, would lose reelection. So lots 591 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: of concern, lots of concern among Republicans in New Hampshire 592 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: about Corey getting in that Lincoln you'll miss at the 593 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, subpoena at President Donald Trump's 594 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: former campaign manager, Korey Lewandowski Switching gears, Hagar, what's on 595 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: your political radar? The developments with Iran US, mainly the 596 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: latest in detentions has been taking me. The news is 597 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: moving so fast it's actually a little bit hard to follow. 598 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: But on Tuesday, the Iranians had said that a vessel 599 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: that the British had seized off the coast of Gibraltar 600 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: on July four would be released. Um. That vessel had 601 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: been detained for sanctions violations for allegedly sending a smuggling 602 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: oil to Syria. UM, and that's you know, that's you 603 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: had seen a lot happening over the course of the 604 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: last few weeks related to that, the Iranians seized a 605 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: British tanker and so on. So that happened on Tuesday, 606 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: and the United States this morning said that they had 607 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: applied to seize that ship from the Europeans from the 608 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: UK UM, which would stall its release. But then a 609 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: couple of hours after that, the authorities in Gibraltar decided 610 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: to go ahead and release it. So the reason I'm 611 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: very fascinated by this and I think it's an interesting 612 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: development is, you know, it's like a real game of battleship. 613 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it is. I mean, I I 614 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: stand firm with my point that I really I do 615 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: not believe we're headed to full scale war. I just 616 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: don't see in a scenario where a miscalculator, even a miscalculation, 617 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: could make that happen. But that being said, you know 618 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: what this means for US tensions with Iran is going up. 619 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Things are are getting you know, even shakier. We're seeing 620 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: the next round of things. But then, on the other hand, 621 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: I think from a sanctions perspective, as you know, I'm 622 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: a sanctioned nerd and I love to go to I'm 623 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: a nerd. Yeah, we all are here. Um, I find it. 624 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's not unprecedented for the United States to 625 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: request seized vessels that were seized for other you know, 626 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: sanctions violations. On to slow down for our listeners, and 627 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: we've got like a minute and a half left, it's 628 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: not unprecedented, right for the United States to seize vessels 629 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: that were seized by other authorities. Yes, so I'll give 630 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: you an example of a couple of months ago, the 631 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: Indonesian seized a vessel for violating North Korea sanctions. Sorry, 632 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: that happened last year, and a couple of months ago 633 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: the United States was able to seize that vessel from 634 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: the Indonesians. So it's again, it's not unprecedented. It does happen. 635 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting, protectrum. Yes, the Reef was not happy, but 636 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't believe anything the reef said, So 637 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: why shouldn't, I mean, truthfully, just to kind of top 638 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: line view this for it is getting in their car 639 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: on the way home from work. Why bottom line, tweetable line? 640 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: Why does it matter the developments with this ship for 641 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: US Iranian relations? Because it's another step in the escalation 642 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: in the U. S Iron relations, and because the United 643 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: States is looking for creative options to find different ways 644 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: to increase the pressure further. You know, September is gonna 645 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: be a crazy month. But one of the things that 646 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm like really already thinking about is if President Trump 647 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: shows up at the U N and what his message 648 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: is going to be, because that's when all of this 649 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: is going to come to a head. Huggar Shamalley my 650 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: good friend. Huggar Shamali, CEO of Grandich Media Strategies, former 651 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Treasury spokesperson. Thanks for being here, James. Did you have 652 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: a good time. I had a great time. Good to 653 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: be with you. People want to subscribe to the Washington 654 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: Post Daily two o two. How can they do it? 655 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: Just go to Washington Post dot com slash daily two 656 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: oh two like the DC area. Congrats on all the 657 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: success of that. James home and everybody. He is the 658 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: author of the Washington Post Daily two o two. He 659 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: is the national political correspondent for the Washington Post. You 660 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: can download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple, it tunes, 661 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 662 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: You can also find us on a radio dot com, 663 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Spotify. 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