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Speaker 1: It's down a seventh seconds.

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Speaker 1: Hit that one from the parking lot.

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Speaker 1: It's college basketball.

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Speaker 2: It's not the size on the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 2: It's the size of the fight in the dog. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the Big Bets on Campus podcast. This is

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Speaker 2: Matthew Cox, one of the three members of the Three

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Speaker 2: Man Weave College Basketball Crew. Kai McKean the other, Jim

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Speaker 2: Root the other. Back at Janir air Waves as we

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Speaker 2: are every Wednesday morning all throughout the college hoops year.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode the standard six live Dog of the Week,

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Speaker 2: Blowout City Power Game in the Week, mid Major Game

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Speaker 2: of the Week, and Kyle we have a new section

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Speaker 2: called the trash Man, which is basically going to get

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Speaker 2: even grosser and uglier and muckier than we have been

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Speaker 2: in the past, trying to find the most disgusting matchups

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Speaker 2: on the slate. And then some big rivalry games coming

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Speaker 2: up later on this weekend as rivalry season is upon

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Speaker 2: us for college hoops. But let's start with the dogs,

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Speaker 2: the pups. Where's mine?

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Speaker 1: Oh dog?

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Speaker 2: Where's mine?

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Speaker 1: Oh dog?

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Speaker 2: The pups have been barking so far this year, Fellas

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Speaker 2: we've had some winners. We've been pretty prophetic in this

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Speaker 2: section so far this season. Let's keep it hot. Ky,

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Speaker 2: you've outlined a few games that have some live dog actions.

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Speaker 2: And again for those who listens to us on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: we try and highlight games Thursday, Friday, Saturday into the

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Speaker 2: weekend for you to circle as you go through your

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Speaker 2: daily handicapping regimen. Some key ones here that'll jump out

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Speaker 2: Mom at Saint John's Murray State at Memphis to Paul

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Speaker 2: one sticks out to use potential live money line, Let's

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Speaker 2: talk mon myth Maddie kim Pum's got this one at

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Speaker 3: I don't think it gets there.

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Speaker 4: knows that, and Saint John's has struggled as a big

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Speaker 4: also that I've also hung around with the Johnny's unexpectedly.

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Speaker 4: I'm basically gonna discount the Saint John's love that I've

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Speaker 3: On the money line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the backcourt to handle the pressure, Saint

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Speaker 1: Kay that they struggled to get away from the FDU

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna officially take mom with moneyline, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, Georgie Pappas might have thirty five, and

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Speaker 2: But here's direct quote from Pennyhart after another gut wrenching,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Penny, you're the coach. You brought this team together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, usually we have to kind of imply locker room issues,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe these guys are like this, Like who

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Speaker 4: It's the hot dog meme? I think you should leave

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Speaker 1: Yes, who did this? We're all trying to find the guy.

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Speaker 4: It's literally Penny Hartily and he's not very good at coaching.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is, Matt. He said they looked like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Murray has been one of my favorite teams

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Speaker 2: So you're not getting like that ultimate juicy money line

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Speaker 2: I gotta think Memphis eventually comes out just pissed off

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Speaker 1: All three of Memphis is like dizzying. Bad losses have

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Speaker 2: That's worth a point and a half. Like if I

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Speaker 2: Can they take down Louisville on the road? The louisvill

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I think so. I think they're kind of legit.

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Speaker 4: I would say it's impressive that they hung around with Lowell.

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Speaker 4: I do think DePaul has a real shot here at

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Speaker 4: Their schedule has been bad too, and Jim, this is

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Speaker 3: It's David Jones. Guy has been a minst this season.

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Speaker 1: We specifically don't like betting young or non meshed teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Paul's a live dog. They're so athletic.

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Speaker 2: we'll see the demons pan out there on their first

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Speaker 2: true Roady test under mister Stubblefield, the new commander in

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Speaker 2: Why not us?

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Speaker 3: Kai?

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Speaker 2: What are the other slogans they're piloting right now? I

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Speaker 2: quick South Dakota State plug. They're going to Washington State

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Speaker 2: always a live dog going to Washington State, Kai, it's

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Speaker 4: And I like Wazoo too. I just think South Dakota State.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you're playing them, you have to be an upset

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Speaker 4: We'll start chronologically here Merrimack and Zaga and Merrimack is

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Speaker 1: Merrimack going east coast to west coast after a Tuesday game,

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Speaker 2: Kai Houston Baptist at Rice. My only concern with this

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Speaker 4: It was an anomaly. They suck with Oklahoma. That is

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Speaker 2: Texas at seedon Hall Gym. Who's going to be favored

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Speaker 4: They've played some good teams. They obviously beat Michigan. That's

433
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Speaker 4: what kind of turn everybody onto the Seaton Hall team. Matt,

434
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Speaker 4: even though we were the first adopters, we were haul

435
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Speaker 4: hip trained. We were Yeah, it should be a good game. Gosh,

436
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 4: Seaton Hall's favored. I am going to be tempted to

437
00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,959
Speaker 4: take Texas.

438
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Speaker 2: I'm not touching Tech. I think a taller bust for me.

439
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 2: No profound thoughts in this game. Timmy Allen is texas

440
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 2: best player. I think we heard murmurs about that in

441
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: the offseason. It's really come to fruitionent again. It's against

442
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 2: non conference nobody's so we'll see how the packing water

443
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 2: shakes out against real Big twelve competition as the year matures.

444
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 2: But right now, he's been their best player pretty emphatically.

445
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that just for the

446
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,640
Speaker 2: ceiling of Texas in this matchup, I don't like fatasyed

447
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 2: hall defense, length two stout too forrdible. I want to

448
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 2: look at Alabama Houston. This one really intrigues me. Bama

449
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 2: off that huge win at the Zags, Jimmy Jimm's Houston

450
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 2: shock Bama here and sort of a sleepy feeling good

451
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Speaker 2: about themselves beating the chest spot.

452
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Speaker 1: I don't think Alabama's going to be sleepy. I think

453
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Speaker 1: they know they're playing a top five Ken Pom team,

454
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: is a quad one opportunity at home. Crowd's going to

455
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Speaker 1: be hyped. I won't call it sleepy. But man styles

456
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: make fights, boys. This one is going to be a

457
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Speaker 1: tug of war in terms of tempo, in terms of

458
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Speaker 1: how this game plays out. Alabama obviously thrives when they

459
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Speaker 1: get to run their guards are in space. Look at

460
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Speaker 1: what they did to Zaga. But Houston wants this to

461
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: be a street fight. They want to brawl in the paint,

462
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: want to get all over the offensive glass. If they

463
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Speaker 1: go too hard in the glasses, that opened the transition

464
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Speaker 1: attack up for the tide man. It's it's tough to

465
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Speaker 1: get a read on this one. Kai. Houston might be

466
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Speaker 1: a little inflated in the market because of the way

467
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Speaker 1: they blow out bad teams. What do you think.

468
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Speaker 4: Definitely played in kimpom their number four right now, that's

469
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Speaker 4: clouds man, Like, I'm shocked. Kemm has this at minus

470
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Speaker 4: one at Alabama. The market just saw Alabama Beacon Zaga.

471
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Speaker 4: There's no way this is minus one. I bet as

472
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Speaker 4: close to three. I might punch back on Houston there.

473
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Speaker 4: I think Houston is primed for this type of game.

474
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Speaker 4: They're gonna just come out and a dog fight, a

475
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Speaker 4: cougar fight, matt if you will, there are the cougars,

476
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 4: not a bunch of hot older ladies. But I do

477
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Speaker 4: think Houston is a good dog in this.

478
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Speaker 1: In this fight here, Mark continues to emerge for Houston.

479
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Speaker 1: I think that's that's huge. He started off on the

480
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Speaker 1: on the shelf injured. I had had a couple of

481
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Speaker 1: big games lately off the bench against bad teams. He's

482
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Speaker 1: the NBA talent on this roster, Matthew, if he emerges

483
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Speaker 1: into the star, the all conference caliber guy that they

484
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Speaker 1: don't quite have. I mean, sassa has been great, but

485
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Speaker 1: Mark I think has the highest ceiling.

486
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Speaker 2: Jamal Sheet's been the guy who's impressed me. An absolute

487
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: disruptor in the backcourt. Is sort of morphed into their

488
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: quasi point guard on paper, I like you as a

489
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Speaker 2: Houston takes feels like they can shut down Alabama's for

490
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Speaker 2: the guard play. I thought Gonzaga's guards were equipped to

491
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Speaker 2: do the same, and the Crimson's guards were head and

492
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Speaker 2: shoulders above them. I know Houston they are better, but

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're going to say Nemhard and

494
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: Strawther are both plus plus defenders, and I thought Bama

495
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Speaker 2: looked you don't think so.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm not there on straw there as a plus plus

497
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Speaker 1: defender compared to the way gets these guys in the

498
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Speaker 1: factory interns the mount.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston's better. I think that's the key. Houston's better.

500
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Speaker 2: I just want to caution us because we said the

501
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Speaker 2: same thing. At least I was saying the same thing

502
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Speaker 2: you guys about Alabama's guards going going up against like

503
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Speaker 2: severe length. But yeah, Houston different animal. I think Houston

504
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 2: could be a livebro dog here. Actually, fine, you convinced me,

505
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Speaker 2: You've commenced me. Yeah, the country that one of the

506
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Speaker 2: country defense Kenzaga nineteenth. Houston's defenses better rocks the house.

507
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: It is better the perimeter defense, the interior defents. Excuse me,

508
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: is why think Houston's is much better than Kenzagis?

509
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Speaker 1: Oh? Shade's a Chet Holmer, potentially the best shot blocker

510
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Speaker 1: in the country.

511
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Speaker 2: He's still a soft Jimmy, still a little softy. Can

512
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: you can bloime a little bit? You can blame a

513
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: little bit, tough narrative. What to call him soft? He's

514
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: a little soft.

515
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: It's a fifteen percent blocker.

516
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's been really good this year. I

517
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm throwing This is not a Chellholmer discussion.

518
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: Illinois hosting Arizona Kai the alioni Andre Corbello, who cares

519
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: doesn't matter better without him? They're going to start those

520
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: narratives now, conspiracy theories. I'm here to start them. I

521
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: kind of think they don't need them. And Trent Fraser's

522
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: awesome Alfonso Plumber as it missed at three since two

523
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: thousand and three. Kofe's a monster, but Arizona is also

524
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: a jugger out?

525
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 4: What gives you ever seen? Finding Emo too? The walruses

526
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: they want to keep people off of their island.

527
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Speaker 3: They go off off, off, off, off off.

528
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Speaker 4: That's how I feel right now about Arizona. Get away

529
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Speaker 4: from Arizona. This is our team, Jim. We were high

530
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Speaker 4: on in the preseason, the weave called Arizona. Now the

531
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: wildcat is out of the bag. That's another pun for you.

532
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 4: They're twelfth in Kim Palm, up from number forty seven preseason,

533
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: top five in that everyone is on the Arizona train.

534
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. They're a great matchup Illinois. They have

535
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: the size to neutralize Cobra and I'm Williams words Arizona.

536
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Speaker 1: If they're plus three Arizona wins, they're better. They are

537
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: a little more of an established identity in the back court.

538
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: Illinois still kind of figuring things out with Frasier and Plumber,

539
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: kind of alternating alpha status there. And yeah, if you

540
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: don't have to double Kofi or like completely change your

541
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: defense to combat him and how you guard the post,

542
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have success. I just think this Arizona

543
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: team is fully for real, like top five good. I'm

544
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: all aboard the bandwagon. I blew up my ninety five

545
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: to one futures ticket and I sleep under it at night.

546
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: It keeps me warm. I am a wildcat man all

547
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Speaker 1: the way. I think they get it done here.

548
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: Agree. Are we worried about the home hypness coming back

549
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: to bite here on the road. Yeah? I think this

550
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: could be like the you loan blemish on Arizona's resident's

551
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: all said and done.

552
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: At Oregon State. They've been on the road, al right, They've.

553
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Been tested a little bit a right, These non con

554
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: homes have been pretty strong though. That's my only quart

555
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: of caution to those looking to follow us. But I

556
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: am on Arizona. There's just no reason why you shouldn't

557
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: be back in them right now. They're that good. And

558
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: then finally, well, Sunday Sunday service here we will be

559
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: worshiping up the altar at basketball when villaan Nova travels

560
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 2: to Waco, West Texas or Middle Texas to take on Baylor.

561
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: The Bears, two teams that are buying for the legit

562
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: national title discussion. We both anoint them as worthy members

563
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: of that exclusive club Baylor. Will they be favored by

564
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: four or five in this game? Kind it's tough to

565
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: kind of peg where we're going to have this spread

566
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: or the odds makers will open this number. Ken Palm

567
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: has it right around five right now.

568
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: Gosh, if it's five, taking Villanova. Also, it's more East Texas.

569
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: It's like Middle East, the East Texas, Waco. I would

570
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: take Villanova. This is a rematch jim of the tournament

571
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: game Sweet sixteen. Baylor won by eleven, but Villanova had

572
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: a seven point lead at halftime. With con Glespie con

573
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 4: Glessie's back. This Bayler team is still incredible, not quite

574
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: as good as last year. I think Villanova can hang around.

575
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 4: I think Vanova can even win this game. So if

576
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Speaker 4: you give me four or five and probably on the Cats.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Villanova gave Baylor the best game in

578
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: the tournament, the only real competitive game they played where

579
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: they actually had to fight to pull it out. I

580
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: guess Arkansas kind of hung around and made it difficult,

581
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: but losing at halftime, goodness, that was a foreign concept

582
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: for Baylor last year. And yeah, like you said, without

583
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: Gillespie there their chief ballhandler. I think Villanova has gone

584
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: over two and their big swings so far this year,

585
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: and they won't go over three. I just trust Jay

586
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Wright too much. They blew it against.

587
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: And Purdue they could have won that game.

588
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: They probably should have arguably should have. So I think

589
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Villanova finally gets the top of the line, featured, top

590
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Speaker 1: of the resume win here, and that is no slight

591
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 1: to Baylor. I think their top five to seven ish

592
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: this season. They're switchability on defense with Brown and Sohan

593
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: in there is really really deadly. Meyer continues to emerge

594
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: as that alpha scorer Matthew. But trust Villanova. I think

595
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: getting round Cosby Rowntree, while he's not a huge contributor,

596
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: just having that extra body helps. And I think they're

597
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: smart enough defensively with their switching that the Wildcats win.

598
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm road Wildcats is what I'm all about.

599
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: And Jim, that road trip is not as far as

600
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Speaker 2: I let on on my entry. You're right, Waco is

601
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: in middle central Texas. Why do I think Waco was

602
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: West Texas?

603
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: I always used to think that too. I have no

604
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Speaker 1: explanation for it. I thought it was like, oh, yeah,

605
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Lublick and Waca, the two ones that are way out there.

606
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: That I was about, like Odessa and Midland, like Perian

607
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Panther too. Now I'm an idiot. Waco fans like New Exasity,

608
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: My sister lives close. I should know these things. I

609
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: hope the Lenova loses so people can continue to doubt

610
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: them because I think they're awesome. So I guess, just

611
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: for my own selfish reasons and betting going forward, I

612
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: hope Baylor wins. That's my only take I'll have there.

613
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: Let's get us some mid major games of the week

614
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Speaker 2: real quick for folks who run along. I want to

615
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: save plenty of time to talk rivalry action. Baby, Let's

616
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: run through these four. Utah State at BYU. Oh, that's

617
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: a big one on Wednesday, so listen to this on Wednesday.

618
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: This is tonight that we have Vermont at Brown on Friday,

619
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Speaker 2: one of the IVY Mid major darling so far this year.

620
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: We have Richmond hosting Toledo on Saturday, thet Bitch Spiders

621
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: hosting the Rockets, and then Yelvers Iona in Brooklyn on Sunday.

622
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: Those four we're going to quickly hit at the top.

623
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Speaker 2: Utah State BYU. Man, what Ryan Odom's done to replace

624
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Craig Smith has been nothing short of magnificent. Probably should

625
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: have beat Saint Mary's in a home got hose on

626
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: a last second call. Now they travel to BYU Jim.

627
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: The Cougars are down two key big guys, and that's

628
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: my concern for Mark Pope's bunch going forward.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no Harward, no Baxter, and then Gideon George. We

630
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: don't know his status. He's been out a couple too,

631
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: so kind of want him back. I mean, if this

632
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: is nine, that's absurd, that's entirely too high. I love

633
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: Mark Pope, He's terrific, but nine is just entirely too

634
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: many points for this. I would guess it's closer to

635
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: like seven, and I would still lean towards Utah State. There.

636
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: They figured themselves out after that home loss to UC

637
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Davis to open the year. They've got really skilled digs.

638
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: They can spread you out, and then they run a

639
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of intric cutting motion and really precise stuff offensively.

640
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: This will be a great game just to watch as

641
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: a basketball fan. Both these teams are tremendously well coached,

642
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: and kai mister Justin Bean potentially an All American.

643
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: He's so freaking good. We can say we can cuss

644
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: this on this podcast. Actually, he's so fucking good. Justin

645
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: Bean is so good. If you have not watched him play, guys,

646
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: please go turn on Utah State game.

647
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: This is a pretty big rivalry.

648
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the Old Wagon Wine is the football

649
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: rivalry Trophy. No way, it's gonna be nine. With the

650
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: injuries here, this is the last year. Also, Matt Eoe's

651
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: gonna be called a mid major. Well, I don't know

652
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 4: why they're going to Big twelve, but eventually they're going

653
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: to the Big twelve, So there's not too much longer

654
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: for U being in the mid major category. This one

655
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 4: does not feel like a mid major game. It's gonna

656
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: be fun to watch. I also lean towards Utah State.

657
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure called these high majors hi hybrids. Hybrids. Yeah,

658
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 2: I'm sure the WCC and Mountain West fans are up

659
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: in arms that we're even classifying both these squads here,

660
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: But hey, deal with that. We talked about your team

661
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: in depth. You're welcome ver Mott Brown a more true

662
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: to mid major form. The ivs have just impressed us,

663
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Brown and Cornell the to Like, what the hell of

664
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: all the ivs so far? But just and John, they've

665
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: all been better than we thought, coming off a year

666
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: where they set out kai Brown looking to be a

667
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: slight dog here hosting the Catamounts, what say you?

668
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: Awesome matchup? Davis and Show two best players in each team.

669
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: They're big guys, but Show's pretty versatile. You can do

670
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: pretty much whatever he wants in the floor seven and

671
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: t who gets to spread as Brown? As of this

672
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: podcast taping, they have a game tonight.

673
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

674
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: I don't really have a side in this one, Jim.

675
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: I'm just shocked how good Brown is this season.

676
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: I kind of lean towards Brown again. Both these teams

677
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: I think played tonight as we were recording, so we're

678
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna get a little more information about them. But you

679
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: mentioned Show vers Davis. You also have Ganey, Jalen Ganey,

680
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: the defending IVY Defensive Player of the Year or reigning

681
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. That's a great matchup for

682
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: him inside. Vermont hasn't really knocked down shots the way

683
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: we would think that kind of team will, and Brown's

684
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: just big and athletic. It's a weird identity for an

685
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: IVY team, but they have embraced it and like their guards,

686
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: they've got two six four, two hundred and twenty pounders

687
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: that can guard multiple positions. I actually kind of like

688
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Brown here. What can Brown do for me?

689
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Hopefully nothing? I like the other side, Jimmy, Sorry, I

690
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: think Vermont is sneaky athletic too, especially on the wing.

691
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Unlike we talk about how Brown is an outlier in

692
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: the IVY playground, I think Vermont is an outlier in

693
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: the America East playground.

694
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: Now.

695
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: I know that playground is a lesser playground than the

696
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: IVY in terms of competition, but they have some athletes.

697
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: I do like the catamouts. There should be a negligible

698
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: home and no disrespect to the Brown home crowd there.

699
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 2: But I'm not. I think you're getting some free value

700
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: with the road spot there for the for Vermont's. But yeah,

701
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: seven to two gets the number. Brown's been good the

702
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 2: order of the IVY. Next up Toledo at Richmond.

703
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: Kai.

704
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: I like the HBC Spiders. I continue to think they're undervalue.

705
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: But Jim is shunning or showing the rocket T shirt

706
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: right in my face. Got some swagged out gear on

707
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: this program. Well just go to Jim here. Jim, why Rockets.

708
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Richmond hasn't been as convincing as I thought they would

709
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: be this year.

710
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: I like to blow leads. The hey love the blow leads.

711
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Right, So I think even if you get down, you

712
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: have the hope of that, and I think Toledo's pretty solid.

713
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: They get Keshawn Saunders back, give them a little more

714
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: depth than they've desperately needed this year. So I'm a

715
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a rocket guy here, Matthew. I think

716
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: it touchdown would be too many, and that's what Ken

717
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Pum has it at.

718
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: Toledo's four and three gets the spread not as scary

719
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: as last year when they were like seventeen to zero

720
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: and we were like, oh my god, you can't pay Toledo.

721
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with Richmond, Matt They've

722
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: they've blown all their chances to win huge games. They

723
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: have a couple of nice wins on the road against

724
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: mid majors, but as far as that large resume goes,

725
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: they kind of need this game where they win by

726
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: seven or more. I tend not to think so, but

727
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: I think they win. I wouldn't call Toledo a live

728
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: dog quite yet in this one, and they have a

729
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: neutral NC State or against NC State on Friday seventeenth,

730
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 4: so I think Richmond has something to play for.

731
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: I'd be wary of Toledo.

732
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't think Tolto's defense is that good

733
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: this season. I think it was propped up by the

734
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: little about house of cards last year and a half,

735
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and they don't have Edu back there. Blocking shots. Didn't

736
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: have them last year and they played fine. But I

737
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: don't think Edo team can stop the other one. But

738
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: I trust Richmond's defense a lot more in Toledo. But

739
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: I think Jim's initial point that's seven is a big number.

740
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: So it's all kind of about value for me in

741
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: that matchup, all right, Last one here, Yale versus Iona.

742
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: This is at Brooklint, not really the kind of maybe

743
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: some home for Iona for those that want to take

744
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: a quick subway down from Neurochelle to the Barclay Center coaching.

745
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: There's no advantage here for either side unless you want

746
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: to ru rip Patinos better than James Jones in a

747
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: one game setting, and you're free to do so. But man,

748
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: James Jones can carry the clipboard, Jimmy. This is just

749
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: a two really good teams. Iona actually has that large

750
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: berth to play for. Yale probably outside of the real possibility,

751
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: but still a great team and a cap will come

752
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: out with the big effort here.

753
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the difference is the big boy Nellie

754
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: Junior Joseph in the middle for Iona. Yale's bigs are

755
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: not great. It's kind of just a collection of bodies

756
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: that they throw out there, and even their bigs are

757
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: not that big. Isaiah Kelly starts at center. He's six

758
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: seven two fifteen junior. Joseph is six nine, two forty.

759
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: He's an animal. I think as long as Iona doesn't

760
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: forget about him and try to throw up shots from outside,

761
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: they're in good shape. But Kai, we don't know if

762
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Elijah Joyner will play. I think he is likely still

763
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: out for this one, which hurts them in the back court.

764
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: It does, but I'm not sure I care that much.

765
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer now in this Ziona squad. You

766
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: guys were earlier than me, and kudos to you. But

767
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: seven to three against the spread, they beat Alabama.

768
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Give me my flowers ki.

769
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the team's good, Yale. Yale's actually three and six

770
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: against the spread mat they're the worst ats t That

771
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: shocks me, which is very surprising.

772
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Great research.

773
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, blown off against them.

774
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: Seaton Hall in Auburn obviously two teams that are pretty

775
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: damn good. But again, I own to beat Alabama, so

776
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: I think my astree might be a little short here.

777
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: I take the gils.

778
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, kind of the whole the three and

779
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: six ants of the spread is a little bit concerning,

780
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: and probably it demunks My IVY has been awesome, nerded

781
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: to some degree, but Yale's really good, So don't let

782
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: that steer you away for that reason alone. The trash

783
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Man pick of the week.

784
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm the trash man.

785
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it.

786
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Totally unreliable, undependable.

787
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: That's it.

788
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: You've been told off.

789
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: How do you like that? Good? Okay, let's get to

790
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: some ugly, ugly games coming up. There's one that really

791
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: sticks out here.

792
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: Trash Man pick of the week.

793
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: The trash Man pick of the week, Get yourself littered

794
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: and garbage. Old Dominion is hosting VI you on Saturday.

795
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: And when I think ugly, gross teams, VS comes right

796
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: to mine. Basically injury ridden, down a few key guys

797
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: having to win with defense. Older Meanian has been playing

798
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: out of that mantra for years. Yes, sim is that.

799
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: Because VCU is two hundred and sixty third in offense

800
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: and fourth in defense? Could that be why you think

801
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: of them as a trash team? Ky?

802
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: What do we call that? What do we call that?

803
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 3: It's called a lopsided lovely Matthew, But in.

804
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: This case it's not so lovely, is it?

805
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: No?

806
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 3: It isn't.

807
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Do we have a take on this game? Side under?

808
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, is the undergo the toll going to be

809
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: sub one twenty? Probably?

810
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Probably, so I would imagine it will be.

811
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: It could be sub one ten by the time I'm done.

812
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: Bet we'll see. Kay, what are you looking at?

813
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: Od use threehundred and forty six and tempo, so that

814
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: plus their offense is two forty first going against like

815
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: Jim said, the fourth ranked defense. That's a bad recipe there.

816
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: VCU's held teams to fifty four, fifty eight, thirty seven,

817
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: fifty six, and fifty five in five games. I mean,

818
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: that's incredible. And VCU themselves have not scored over sixty

819
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: seven points the entire year.

820
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: They were one of the words includes an overtime game.

821
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: And they're one of the worst teams with the ball.

822
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: They turned the ball over constantly. This game is going

823
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: to be just no points in trash Man piccoliy Gym

824
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 4: is perfectly anointed to this game.

825
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Yep, don't be afraid of unders just because the number

826
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: is unbelievably low. This could be forty two to thirty eight, Like,

827
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: this is the epitome of disgusting here.

828
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Nothing further to that gross. I will probably take them

829
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: under as well. Two more quick hitters l IU at Fordham,

830
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: Green Bay at UMKC. This is Thursday and Friday, respectively.

831
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Fordham's offense isn't as gross as it has been in

832
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: prior years, but it's still pretty gross, coming in at

833
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety third. LU can't score either. They

834
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: really haven't been able to under Derek Kellogg now for

835
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: multiple years. Jim Any take.

836
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Here, Well, Fordham actually has decent guards.

837
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, decent guards.

838
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Lu's guards are kind of like mannequins. They're not good.

839
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: They've got an awesome front court, but they can't get

840
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: them the ball in advantageous spots, so they get blown

841
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: out constantly. I would lean towards Fordham here, although minus

842
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: six seems a little high.

843
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like square peg round hole here. Neither

844
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: team shoots over thirty one percent from three. It's going

845
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 4: to be just a breakfast.

846
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: Agree UMKC Green Bay, same thing. Do the Roost take

847
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: care of business?

848
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: Combined three wins against D one competition for these two teams,

849
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: UKC severely better. So I don't like tough schedule there

850
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: in cases Nice ball Club, very nice Blok Club.

851
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be at least four.

852
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: To five shot clock violations in this game. Yeah, those

853
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: teams play super slow at bottom typically.

854
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Good for unders. Shot clocks violations good for unders. I

855
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: believe all right. Spotlight rivalry games kicking it off Thursday

856
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: evening sy Hawk Kai. We have attended Hilton Magic. We

857
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: saw it during the non con a little bit of

858
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, we didn't see its phos.

859
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: It was a conference game, but it was Christmas.

860
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Break because over Chrismas breaks, we didn't really see the

861
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: full juice that it has to offer.

862
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: Here.

863
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: It's going to be rocking when the Hawkeys come to town.

864
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: And we now know that Iowa State is good. That's

865
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: where I started. Are they good?

866
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: I think they're good.

867
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they're top fifteen like the ap pole shows.

868
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: And you see that here by a projected spread of

869
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: minus three for Iowa. Did a little research on all

870
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: these all these games so well throughout the all time

871
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: series records here, Iowa was forty seven to twenty seven

872
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: but since two thousand and one, Iowa State has won

873
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: by an average of one and a half points per

874
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: game at Ames at Hilton Magic. This will be the

875
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: first time since two thousand and one GYM that Iowa

876
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: State would be a dog in this series at home.

877
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: Very interesting.

878
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: Iowa State's four and six against spread at Ames in

879
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: the Siahawks and so on last year was almost a

880
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: thirty point game at Iowa blowout. I think Iowa State's

881
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: out for blood, and I really like this Iowa team

882
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: this year, so it's hard for me to say that.

883
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: And I'm still kind of doubting Iowa State, Jim, but

884
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: the spot and the magic of the Hilton Coliseum has

885
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: me leaning towards the Clones.

886
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sort of a believer in what Otzolburger's done

887
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: so far. They defend like crazy on the pernimeter, and

888
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: while Matt we know that I was upgraded the athleticism

889
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: on the premiere a little bit, especially when they get

890
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Perkins and Ulas out there, that that's kind of juice

891
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: their efforts in recent games. It's still I don't know

892
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: if it's enough to deal with Iowa State. Hey, guys,

893
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: this is surprising to me. Bart Torvik. If you take

894
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: out preseason bias, preseason priors, can you guess what these

895
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: two teams rank this year? Give me a ballpark for

896
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: both of them.

897
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: Kai twenty and forty.

898
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: Iowa Yeah, good guesses.

899
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I agree, Iowa fifteen, Iowa State thirty. Both these teams

900
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: have been rock rock solid this year, so pretty impressive.

901
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: This is a much bigger game than I thought it

902
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: was coming into the year. I was like, oh, the

903
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: number fifty team at number one fifteen, It's like, nope,

904
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: these are two tournament teams. Really impressed with them both

905
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: so far.

906
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, come with you.

907
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: Kai.

908
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: I feel contradictory saying that Iowa State's a little bit overrated,

909
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: but I think this is the right spot and I

910
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: think they match up pretty well with Iowa State and

911
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: Hilton Magic back to its fullest form under their old

912
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: former assistant, mister Altielberger. I like to close at home

913
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: Kansas at Missouri. This is a rivalry games called the

914
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: border War for those that aren't from the Missouri Kansas area.

915
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Here's a matchup of two teams. One team is good.

916
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: It used to be competitive, and then it didn't exist

917
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: for a little bit, and now it's back and the

918
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: timing not ideal for your tiggers, Jim and Kai as

919
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 2: I see some Miszoo attire in both of your backgrounds. Jim,

920
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: why is Miszoo going to keep this competitive? Try and

921
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: talk yourself, talk to people into some reach of a

922
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: case for this game being closed. Please try.

923
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: No, no, I refuse. I have no reason to believe that. Guys,

924
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: the stat I just gave you of taking out preseason priors,

925
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: guess where Missoo is in that. Oh wow, three hundred

926
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: and tenth, three hundred and tenth. They're terrible. This is

927
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: an awful team of three hundred and thirty third in offense.

928
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: We talked on our preseason podcast about how bad their

929
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: offense could be. We didn't I don't think we even

930
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: fathom that could be this terrible. They're going against a

931
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: motivated juggernaut in Kansas that is going to be like, hey,

932
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: you left our conference. We want to embarrass you. We

933
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: want to pull your pants down in front of all

934
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: these people and spank you with a paddle until you

935
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: go home crying back to Columbia. And that's what's going

936
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: to happen. I think Kansas wins by thirty plus.

937
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kansas Hates Zoo and the feelings mutual Jim as

938
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: Miszoo fans here.

939
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: This game has been played in twenty twelve.

940
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: It's been almost ten years, so this is very highly

941
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: anticipated Kay Obviously it's a series one seventy three to

942
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: ninety four. There has never been a bigger spread in

943
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: this rivalry, at least in the last ten years. Eighteen

944
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: and a half was the biggest back in eight. KAY

945
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: us only six and five though, against the spread at

946
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: FOG during that span, which is a little surprising to me.

947
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: It's usually pretty close.

948
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: The math.

949
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: There are three outliers. K's won by thirty three, thirty two,

950
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: and twenty five in the last ten years against Miszoo.

951
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: I totally think.

952
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: It's going to happen on Saturday, and Miszoom only won

953
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: outright just one time back in O three when Quinn

954
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: Snyder took down Roy Williams. I'm just excited this rivalry

955
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: game is back. I'll be way more excited for next

956
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: year when it's in Columbia.

957
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: Miszoo covers that's my tay, You're crazy, You're wild covers.

958
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: All the way back to nineteen ninety eight, Kai Kansas

959
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: was a twenty four and a half point home a favorite.

960
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: They only won by ten, So perhaps Matt is onto

961
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: something there nineteen ninety eight. Now that's your historical precedent.

962
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: The problem is that Missoo's defense isn't even good this year.

963
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: That's what Jim was saying, Like it, I don't have

964
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: like the old physicality Kwanzo thing to fall back on.

965
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: There's no size like the size. Well, how do you

966
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: have a team that has no shooting and no interior defense?

967
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: Like it's just a bunch of bricky wings. That's it.

968
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: Zoo has a seven to three guy, but somehow no size.

969
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Because he's this mobile, right, he's he shouldn't be on

970
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: the court.

971
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: It's the Kobe Brown game. He hits thirty Missouluses by

972
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: eighteen cover Central Boom, write it down, all right, I'm

973
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: more important and more relevant right where? This year the

974
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Crosstown Shootout Xavior hosting Cincinnati Battle of the Queen's City.

975
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: Skyline Chili, all that stupid cliche stuff, Jim, since he

976
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: leads the all time series, You've.

977
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Already pissed off every Cincinnati human being both sides by

978
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: saying what Skyline saying? Bullshit around?

979
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: All right?

980
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff you can you can't do. I've actually never

981
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: been in Cincinnati, so I'm I'm keeping my never head

982
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: skyline chili streak alive by just simply not going to

983
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: the city. Jim since he has been dominant historically, However,

984
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: Xavier has been dominant recently. What gives here? Xavier's been

985
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: the better team this season, but Xavier's been or since

986
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: he's been feisty as well.

987
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I'm concerned. Xavier has won multiple recently.

988
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: It's the typical clip of Travis Steele going to Dana

989
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: Gardens and dropping the cash on the bar and becoming

990
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: the folk hero and rallying the fan favor as he

991
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't make NCAA tournaments. I think the new presence on

992
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: the other sideline makes a difference here. I think west

993
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Miller has Cincinnati playing much better. I think they're feisty

994
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: as an underdog, even on the road at Cintas it's

995
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of an ugly game. I've been impressed

996
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: with the interior defense of both teams. None Gee has

997
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: been outstanding. For Xavier, like really really impressive. Coming over

998
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: from Iowa, he didn't have to play defense very often,

999
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: so I think it's kind of an ugly close game

1000
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: war down to this, down to the end. I'm giving

1001
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: the slight edge to Sincy. I'm just kind of a

1002
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: bearcat guys here higher on this team. I think they

1003
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: get it done.

1004
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: Kay.

1005
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: I think they win at Sintas.

1006
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: Are sign Xavier's won eight to last ten at home,

1007
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 4: but there are only four and six against the spread

1008
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: in those ten games. They've won by an average of

1009
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 4: three points per game. Wes Miller better coach than Travis Steele.

1010
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: It's not close.

1011
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I think it's I agree with that.

1012
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was about to push back.

1013
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: Reaction was like, oh, that's a hot take to some

1014
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I think it's right, though, was one of the

1015
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: worst coaches in the country. Oh my god, that's all

1016
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: too harsh. No, they've been good this year.

1017
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: Worse than Power Conference basketball, one of the like Power

1018
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: basketball mat I truly believe that Xavier hasn't had a

1019
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: three year tournament voy.

1020
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: He has achieved.

1021
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: No.

1022
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: I agree that he's underchiead. I just not right. I

1023
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: think there's plenty of candidates of whole bad coaches. I

1024
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: think you're discounting the number of bad, bad coaches that are.

1025
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: Currently I'm pretty sure Xavier has started like this the

1026
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: last couple of years and faded.

1027
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: Last year.

1028
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: Savis eight no in a non con just melted around

1029
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: the stretch. So let's let's not overreact to their hot

1030
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: start here. I'm kind of a gym. The spread feels

1031
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: kind and high. It's really going to be around eight,

1032
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: probably in towards Sinci.

1033
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet the spreads like five and that's okay

1034
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, right exactly.

1035
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: And finally, ruquiem for the Big East Georgetown Syracuse it's back.

1036
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: Well it's technically been back, but no longer is it

1037
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: a fun conference game. Unfortunately, Syracuse is three to ten

1038
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: against the spread in the last thirteen meetings. Guys, Georgetown

1039
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: has subtly dominated this rivalry recently. I just think the

1040
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: Georgetown team this season is maybe the worst we've seen

1041
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: in the last twenty years. And that may not be hyperbolic. Jim,

1042
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: where are you standing here?

1043
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: It just feels like a game that bubble Syracuse loses

1044
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: to remain bubbly, where it's like, oh, they got a

1045
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: big one at Florida State, they knocked off Indiana at home.

1046
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: We're kind of certain to think the Syracuse team might

1047
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: be good and they're like, no, no, no, no, we want

1048
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: our selection Sunday to be stressful. So we're going to

1049
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: lose to Georgetown, which is an odd, odd game to lose.

1050
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about him here, Kaya. I

1051
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: think the Hoyas, despite being as frustrating as they can be,

1052
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: they've won some recently in this in this matchup where

1053
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: I thought they were category worse, and I think they

1054
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: can do it again here.

1055
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: And they are categories worse. I watched the South Carolina game.

1056
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: Georgetown is terrible. They are the stupidest fucking team I

1057
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: have ever watched. Like it looks like they're just not

1058
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: even coached Matt like on defense. Especially their big guys

1059
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 4: are so dumb, just stepping up on help situations and

1060
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: no one helping behind them. I was actually like mad

1061
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: watching the game. I was on Georgetown small, so that

1062
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: was part of it, obviously.

1063
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: No, it didn't come across at all.

1064
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: The betters sympathize with the anchor there on a game,

1065
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: but they're so stupid, Like I would not ever bet

1066
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: Georgetown in the situation, even though I think it would

1067
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: be Jim, like you said, a probably a pretty good

1068
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: bet in the grand scheme.

1069
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Ken Palm only has a Syracuse minus too.

1070
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: There's no way in a world my number says we

1071
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: got a bet on Georgetown here, because that seems wildly low.

1072
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: It's just a total gut feel Syracuse identity thing where

1073
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: it's like they got to drop a bad one so

1074
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: that they stay on the bubble.

1075
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Speaker 2: I kind of think Syracuse hangs around with Villanova and

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Speaker 2: this will happen Tuesday night, so by the time we're

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Speaker 2: listening to this, that will be in the books. Feel

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Speaker 2: free to audit what a terrible take that was or

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Speaker 2: good take it was, and thus sets up for another

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Speaker 2: vintage Georgetown out of their ass effort. So yeah, Georgetown

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Speaker 2: kind of like Azoo take for no real RHYMERI is

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Speaker 2: just weird rivalry shit. You like betting on the ugly

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Speaker 2: teams man, they're gross. No one else likes to oddsmakers,

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Speaker 2: don't like said lines against them, people like betting on them.

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Speaker 2: But here I am. I'm the garbage man, happy to

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Speaker 2: pick up those trashman the trash man exactly. That's all

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Speaker 2: we got, kids, heftypod today. A lot of games coming

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Speaker 2: up will continue to get better as the weeks roll

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Speaker 2: a Long. Please rate and review our show on Apple Podcasts,

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