1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Dahlia Defilito walking out a free woman after a judge 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: declared a mistrial and her murder for higher retrial. This 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a confidential police informant 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: and former lover of Dahlia di Folito, testified in court 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Tuesday that he was pressured to set to Polito up 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: for arrest by the boy in Beach Police Department or 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: else face prosecution. She was accused of trying to hire 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: a hitman to kill her husband. In Beach. Police staged 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: the fake crime scene where they told di Polito her 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: husband was dead and allowed film crows from the TV 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: show Cops to record the entire ordeal. I'm Sorgo Ramsay, 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: and we had a report of a disturbance at your 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: house and there were shots fired as your husband Michael. Okay, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: been killed. Try right now, we need to we need 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: to get I'm not just one percent sure I want 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: him dead. I'm two percent sure. Wait now, I'm five 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: thousand percent sure I want my husband dead. I'm not 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: what you think I am. I'm not as sweet as 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: you think. I'm a mean little cookie. Yeah, I am 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: quoting to the best of my recollection, Dahlia di Polito. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: You've got to remember this. This woman marries seemingly in 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: love and the next thing you know, according to police, 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: she's caught on video hiring a hit man to murder 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: her husband over what to get her mitts on a 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: two hunt dollar condo. Now, according to the husband and 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I spoke to him and his lawyer, she tried to 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: kill him before with Chai tea from Starbucks. Didn't work, 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: so she decided to go with a hit man who 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: happened to be an undercover agent, and he video and 31 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: audio taped the whole darn thing. This is crime Stories. 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: with us. I'm talking about the Florida Black widow, Dahlia 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Dippolito and Oh my stars, Meryl Street. Watch out because 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: they video the whole thing. They set up a sting 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: to make it look like the husband had been killed. 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: They told him what was going on, so they set 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: it up as if he'd been killed. Then they find 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito. They go tell her. She puts on a 40 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: performance like no other. Let's take a listen to that 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: audio and if you could just see the video but 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: listen to this, just kick back and enjoy roll it. Alan, 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, d Ramsey, I'm I'm not want to call you. 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for comment. I'm sorry to call you. Listen. 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: We had a report of a disturbance at your house 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: and there were shots fired. Is your husband Michael? Okay, 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: been killed. IM up right now, we need to do 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: she tried. She beins over willing about her dead husband. 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: They take her to the police station and after questioning her, 51 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: they let her see him alive and well, and she 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: screamed out like, I didn't do it. My question isn't 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: running from I can't like them. I cannot do this 54 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: right now. On trial, the defense was she was, actually, 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: you want to help trying to be a reality star 56 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: like the Kardashian and this whole thing was a TV 57 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: reality show and she thought the under the hit man 58 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: was it and so this whole thing was a script. Now. 59 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: My question and that was, well, why didn't she tell 60 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: the police when they arrested her? Hey, hey, hey, whoa 61 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: wait wait, this was just a reality these shows, GrITT, 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: what are you talking about. No, she never said a 63 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: word until they finally got to trial about a year 64 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: and a half later. Then that was the defense. Now, 65 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool, they got an hung jury. Defense attorney, fairly 66 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: well known Brian Claypool says that's no longer the defense. 67 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: There's a new defense that the police tried to and 68 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: trap her, that they didn't have enough criminals to deal with, 69 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: that they wanted to frame an innocent person, Dollia to 70 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: Polito so they could be on the show Cops before 71 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: I go to very well known defense attorney Brian Claypool 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: is defending Dollia this time around with a brand new defense. 73 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I guess the truth changed. I want to think Simply 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Safe our sponsor for making this podcast possible. 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I mean, hey, 92 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: all I can say is all I can say is 93 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: don't take a chi tea from this woman, Okay, I 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: mean because you know this ain't her first time at 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: the rodeo. Husband told me point blank that she tried 96 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: to kill him before this with some chi tea from Starbucks. 97 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: What is that anyway? I don't even know what chi 98 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: tea is, but whatever it is, he the husband says, 99 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: she tried to kill him with that. It didn't work. Brian, 100 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: I've yet to have coffee at Starbucks with Dahlia. But 101 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this much. Remember Nancy law school 102 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: one oh one, Remember that doctrine, Remember that doctrine that 103 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: she got taught about fruit of the poisonous tree. It's 104 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: it's a big remember that one. Well, that's that's what 105 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: this case is about. It's it's about police officers and 106 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: law enforcement who can't break the rules, violate the law, 107 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: and then use the evidence they've generated from from from 108 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: a corrupt investigation to a case somebody, even if you 109 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: think that person is guilty. It's it's basic law. One 110 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: on one, Brian, let me understand this, um, your your 111 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: defense is it no longer that when she hired a 112 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: hit man to kill her husband, it's all called on video, 113 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: which I love. I love watching Dollia Dippolto, especially when 114 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: they tell her the husband is dead and she's like, 115 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: oh I love that so much and she bends over 116 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: in grieve blah blah blah. Anyway, also like I also 117 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: like the one where she's got in the car with 118 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: a hit man and the whole thing is bugged and 119 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, got triked out with video and she's not 120 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: just a hud. Sure she says what, I'm five thousand 121 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: percent sure I want him dead. Now, I thought your 122 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: defense was that that was really a script for a 123 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: reality show. Is that not the offense anymore? No that 124 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: remember this. The second trial we did was in late November, 125 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and we got a jury. We got a hung jury 126 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: in early December. And in fact, I know, I brace yourself, 127 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't want you to pass out. But five jurors 128 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: in our favorite it was three to three. And then 129 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: there were two alternate jurors in the last trial, and 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: one of the TV shows Blue was Dateline tracked them 131 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: down the two alternates think guess what. I must have 132 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: been able to put something in the coffee of those 133 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: five jurors because they voted to a quit Dalia Dippelito. 134 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: And in fact, Nancy Love how did wait? Wait, how 135 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: many jurors were there? Fifty? Yeah, well, well in Florida 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: and Florida. And by the way, we're gonna have the 137 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: third trial. I don't know if you knew this. The 138 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: third retrial of Dalia Dippilito takes place. It starts on 139 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: June second. I could not be happier. I could not 140 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: be happier. I may just have to come down there 141 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: and watch you. Brian clay Boo, now, like something very 142 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: seriously said before you started talking about this girar in 143 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that Gerard did this one and that one according to dateline. Uh, 144 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: first they were alternatives, thank god in heaven. But you said, oh, 145 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: that was the defense at the second trial, So you've 146 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: got a different defense. That's not the defense the board 147 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: that it was all a script. Yeah, right, the the 148 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: the the reality script is not is not part of 149 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: the defense. Why if it's the truth, because that's not, 150 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: because it's not true. The reality is this and a 151 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of your she sat there in court and let 152 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: her lawyers say all the things she said to a 153 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: hit man. She thought that was a script, not a lawyers. Yeah, no, 154 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's uh yeah, I mean you keep you 155 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: keep coming back to this try t or Latte. I 156 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: mean I think something something must have been in that 157 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: shy of her first lawyer. Well, what's the defense this time. 158 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: It's a defence this time that the police did it. 159 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: It's their fault. I'm just so happy. Yeah, well, look 160 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. It's not it's not been their fault. 161 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: With a lot of trying not to laugh out loud, 162 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: because okay, I'm trying not to laugh outlet that first 163 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: phone call. People don't realize this The first phone call 164 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: made by the confidential informants to the Boy and Beach 165 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Police Department reported a domestic abuse concern, and that person 166 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: reported that he that that Dolly has said the following. Okay, 167 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: here's what she said, Nancy, Okay, I'm listening. I can't wait. 168 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: She said two things. She said. Number one, I've been 169 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: I've been physically abused by my husband, and I I 170 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: I either want to be dead or he needs to 171 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: be dead. That is the context of the first phone call. 172 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: And the problem that the state prost you're gonna have 173 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: in this case again is that nobody took serious this 174 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: domestic abuse call. They didn't. They didn't filter that out, vetted. 175 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Let me get back. I'm want to go back even 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: earlier than that. Brian Claypool. Is it true that Dahlia 177 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: de polito first date with her husband was when he 178 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: paid her because she was a hooker? She was not 179 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: an escort whenever rubbed down and out and I need 180 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: a good laugh. I'm gonna call you. Wait, you're telling 181 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: me she was not a hooker. That is comical. I mean, 182 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: what are you telling me she was not a hooker? Act? 183 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: On the was she was? She an escort. He was 184 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: not an escort. Mike, listen, you're listen, Nancy, You're you're 185 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: you're believing it convicted felon who who propagated that story. 186 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Here's a guy who says, okay from elderly folk. Now 187 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: that's what he says. He says that she was an escort, 188 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: and that's how we met her. Why would you believe 189 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: somebody who lies the elderly folks and builds money out 190 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, they were certainly perfect for each other. 191 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: You're not gonna fall for that, Mike Depolito trap, are 192 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: you watch out? Um? Yeah? Probably? Then how did they meet? 193 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: You know what? I know you're gonna think this is 194 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: a joke and I'm not trying to I'm not right 195 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: and Sundays go over again. But they met at a Starbucks. Yes, 196 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: it was a Starbucks. So that's where they met. Okay, 197 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at evidence. I'm looking at evidence right now, 198 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: which our texts from her phone where she is um, 199 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: where she's saying hi, and she's using her pseudo name, 200 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: and he goes, great, I so hook up next week. 201 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: But question, can we forget the hourly fee and just 202 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: go out for drinks? And then is that day or 203 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend's phone? I can't which one is it? 204 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: And then he says, um, how are you coming dressed? 205 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: I would love you in a real short skirt with 206 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: pink underwear, if that's okay, She writes back, sure, And 207 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: she is setting up a hook up for money. So 208 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: you're telling me that's not a hooker. Yeah, that's not that, 209 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I don't know where that wasn't that that 210 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: would never come in That's never gonna come into evidence anyway. 211 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: You know that. Even if that's true, and I didn't 212 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: say it was coming into evidence, I'm asking you what 213 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: the truth is. I'll tell you where I saw it. 214 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I said, the New Times at Broward Palm Beach newspaper. 215 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: That's where it is, the New Times. It's printed. I believe. 216 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I've me that's fiction, and I don't. There's no proof 217 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: that's her phone and that she's making those text messages 218 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: all hearsay, So I don't put any value into that 219 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I know her two years now, 220 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I've got to know her family. Nobody wants to know 221 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: the human side of her. Everybody. I think I know 222 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: the human side. I think I know that Brian Claypool. 223 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: I think I know the human side because she was 224 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: on house arrest with her mother and had the right 225 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: to go to her lawyer and to church, and somehow 226 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: she got pregnant. How did that happen on house arrested? 227 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I think she was somewhere else. Hey, you aren't suggesting 228 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: on the dad, are you. No. I hadn't thought of that, 229 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: but now that you brought it up, come on, Hey, 230 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: wait good you think are you suggesting that one of 231 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: those lawyers. One of her meetings with the lawyers, maybe 232 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: that didn't take place at the legal office. Oh, I 233 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: am just looking at all the texts that this woman 234 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: is sending. But you still say she was never a hooker. Okay, 235 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: it looks like you're under Dollya di Polito's spell. I'm 236 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: worried about you. Brian Claypool. Well, you know that Dolly 237 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: actually mentors some of the some of the people at church. 238 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: She goes religious Dear Lord in Heaven. So you know, people, 239 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: You've been in cases before where people are portrayed one 240 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: way in the public but they're not really that's not 241 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: really who they are, you know. So so Dolly, so 242 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: let me understand this. You say she was not a hooker, 243 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: that she met her husband slash would be would be 244 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: murder victim at a starbarhooks, and that she never tried 245 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: to put water or engine cool in her husband's coffee. 246 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: That was another it was hi kee. And then you're 247 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: saying the first defense that she sat there and and 248 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: lived through where they claimed in front of a jury 249 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: that all the things she said caught on tape and 250 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: the way she cried and carried on when they told 251 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: the cops told her he was dead, but actually it 252 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: was a staying to see what she would do. They 253 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: found out about it through the alleged hit man, and 254 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: the husband wasn't killed. And then when she saw the 255 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: husband at the police says, she goes, mikey, I didn't 256 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: do it. I didn't do it. Do what? Why would 257 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: she say that anyway? Okay, so you're saying that was 258 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: not that was not true. So the defense this time 259 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: is going to be what was your defense? Yeah? The 260 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: defense this time is that the police department not only 261 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: violated his own policies and procedures and trying to set 262 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: her up and lure her. You know what it's like, Nancy, 263 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: You know what was like have you ever gone fishing 264 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: as a girl growing up? You throw that line out 265 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: into the lake and you start pulling, you know, twisting 266 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: and turned, pulling your line in and trying to hook 267 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: a fish. That's exactly what this police department did. They 268 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: were they were trying luring her in, hooking her in, 269 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: trying to get her on. Because they have so many resources, 270 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: they don't have enough dopers and killers and sex offenders. 271 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: They got to go try and get Dollia Dipolete out, 272 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: not a hooker. Okay, So they spend their spare time 273 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: trying to frame an innocent person. Okay, oh absolutely, you 274 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: want to know why. Let me let me tell you, Nancy, 275 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: you always talk about motive, don't you write? You always 276 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about motive. Let me give you the motive real quick. 277 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm pins and needles. Yeah, okay, alright, brace 278 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: yourself again. I don't want the paramedics over here. Here's 279 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: another one. We've found an email for the second trial 280 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: that the chief the police defending an email out everybody 281 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: the police department say hey, let me know when that 282 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: view when the first episode of Cops comes out with Dolly, 283 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's so we can have a big viewing party. 284 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. Well that really doesn't bother. They're more 285 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: worried about a good TV show for cops than they 286 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: are up they're not. Dolia Dippilto tried to kill her 287 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: husband at least once so she could get ahold of 288 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: his condo, and it was all on video, and that 289 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: happened to be when cops was in that jurisdiction filming, 290 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: and that's what happened, and then it was all over. 291 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: She's so obviously guilty. They were gonna watch it and 292 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: get a kind of a laugh off of it because 293 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't believe anybody would be so darn dumb as 294 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Dolia Dippolito. Well, Nancy, I'm gonna throw you. I'm gonna 295 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: throw you a consolation prize now if you if here's 296 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: my consolation prize to you. If I get Dolia quitted 297 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: in June, I'm gonna force you to meet her. We're 298 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna all meet for coffee at Star but I want 299 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: to meet her, but I'm not drinking any coffee. I'm 300 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: not drinking any coffee, Okay. I you're gonna have a 301 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: face to face with her. I'm gonna bring my own 302 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm bringing my own coffee in a armos. You can 303 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: count on that, Okay, Bryan claypol I'm afraid that defense 304 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: is going to change by the time you finally take 305 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: it to trial. Brian Claypool. Okay, Claypool, seeing court man, 306 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Thank you. But I love 307 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Okay Alan, Alan, did you hear that was incredible? I 308 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: love that guy's Oh he's still here. If you do 309 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: get her acquitted, I want to come to that coffee. 310 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: See what is it with you men? Can't you see 311 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: through her? Don't get near her with a ten foot 312 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: pollet for Pete's sake, don't have coffee with her. Trying 313 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: to save you darn lives here, I'm trying to save 314 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: your life. Claypool, you better watch out, Claypool. I'm serious, 315 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to She would love nothing more 316 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: than to marry She would love to nothing more than 317 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: to marry a successful lawyer like there you and then off. Yeah, 318 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, there were there were rumors 319 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: floating around the deck. The kid was mine for a while. 320 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: But well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Brian, but I 321 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: have not built that Look you already think so lowly 322 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: of me for sending you. I don't want you to 323 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: think worse. I can assure you one fact. It's not 324 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: my baby, okay, not good to know, good to know? 325 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: And you know what Shakespeare said, me thinks thou dost 326 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: protest too much? It's too funny. Again. I want to 327 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: thank Simply Safe for being with us on this podcast. 328 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Simply Safe. Thank you for making home security affordable because 329 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: I want to protect my family and I'm sure everybody 330 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: else does too. Thank you, Simply Safe. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, 331 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: signing off, Goodbye friend