1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm like Hey, I'm scotts On. This week's podcast 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: will explore the big money issues in the world of 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: sports and talk to some of the biggest players in 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the industry. Just in time for the World Series. We 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: talked to former baseball star and current TV analyst Keith 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: and Nandez a little. Did they know what they brought 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: into this world when they brought in the computer and 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: how it's changed everything and the game has become too 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: much statistic oriented. We will have more of our interview 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: with former baseball player Keith and Andez in a few minutes, 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: but first let's look at the top stories of the week. 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Joining us as Bloomberg Business of Sports reporter Eben Nobe Williams, 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: and again let's start with the topic that has really 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: dominated sports and the NFL and players kneeling during the 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: national anthem. Again, that controversy of not standing is front 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: and center. NFL commission at Roger Goodell wants the players 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: to all stand, and he's not making it a requirement. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: We believe that our players should stand for the national answer. 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: That's an important part of our our game in our moments, 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: and we believe in that the question comes down to 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: and I hate to break it down like this, but 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: this is a money issue for the NFL because it 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: could impact teams if players decide to kneel and fans 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: decide not to spend their dollars with that team. Of course, 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: it's a money issue. They're looking at the TV ratings 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: which are down somewhat about seven percent sence last year, 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: but up the last couple of weeks. So let's see 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: which way that trends. Little known fact, Michael bar though 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: that our Edmund W. W. Williams is a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: and I think we've seen a little turn here, Edman. 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Your owner Shad con may have given us a glimpse 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that things are changing from the ownership perspect has been 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: very outspoken against Donald Trump. No coincidence that he's the 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: owner that is doing this. Uh, he's a self made billionaire. 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: He's an immigrant, Uh, he's Muslim. These are a lot 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: of communities that are that are not too happy with 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump at the moment um. But there's no 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: question that we're starting to see a little bit of pushback. 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: But the point he made was Donald Trump, he's the 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: president of the United States, but he says he's jealous 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have an NFL team. But the league 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: did something that was pretty unique, and that is they 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: brought in and I think for the first time, they 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: brought in players, union reps all and to talk with 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: the owners all to talk about this issue. And the 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: union would tell you, and the players would tell you, 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: where has this been. What we've wanted is a seat 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: at the table to discuss the issues. What can we 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: do with the platforms we all have. Look at J. J. 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Watt what he did in Houston. He raised how much 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: money I don't even know. He tried to raise five 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: thousand and he wound up raising like twenty million. I 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: don't even know what the number was. But one player 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: was able to do that. Imagine the collective power of 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: all of the stars. That's what they want to see. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: A think all the players starting to realize that they 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of have a lot of this leverage now. In 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: this power it seems like kind of a more recent 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: thing in the past. Bridge comes from the fact that 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: this as a CB a measure they are not required 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: to stand. It would be very interesting to see what 62 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: would happen if, let's say, Jerry Jones told one of 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: his guys or suspended. As he said, if you don't stand, 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: you don't play well. Something tells me the players understand 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: that the c b A does not require them to stand. 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: That would be a battle where they have leveraged. This 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: is a topic that is not going away anytime soon. 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Another topic, and it's weird to say it now. Former 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: University of Louisville basketball coach Rick Pattino he has sued 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Adidas or Audidas wherever you are on the planet, saying 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: he was unaware at the sportswear company allegedly funneled money 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: to the family of a recruit, as prosecutors claimed last month. 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a location thing, Michael. If you're 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: talking soccer, it's Adidas. If we're talking every other sports. 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: So interesting here in that evan Rick Pettino was always 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: a Nike guy. Then he goes to Louisville, which had 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: all their other teams decked out in Adidas, and the 78 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: athletic director or x alliting director, Tom George told him, Rick, 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: we need continuity, we need no pun intended uniformity, So 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: come on board with Adidas. So he took a little 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: less money. He has a contract with Adidas. The school 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: has a contract with Adidas. Not surprising that the first 83 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: thing Rick does, it goes after. This is a total 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a mess, and it's a it's a web. 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: You can't really untangle Rick Pettino from Louisville from Adidas. 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Adidas made it clear when they gave them 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty million dollar contract this year that 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: Louisville was the most important piece in their college properties. 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: And Rick Pettino he was paid on the side by 90 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Louisville as well. Uh, he was the most important coach 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: in the Louisville in the Adidas collegiate properties. Uh, this 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: is an absolute mess. Uh. I imagine there's going to 93 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: be more lawsuits Rick Rick Petino. If he is going 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: to claim that he's innocent, that he did not know 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: that all these briberies, et cetera were happening, he has 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: to go after the people that are saying he did 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: um and and Adidas is part of this lawsuit. Adidas 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: was the one in some ways they were they were 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: helping funnel the money to players. He's going after them 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: to try and clear his name. Worth noting the lawsuit 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: came a day after they severed the contract with Rick. Definitely, 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: and the w n b A is moving into Las Vegas. 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: They're joining the NHL and the NFL. It's a very 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: shrewd move for w for the w n b A, 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and for MGM. I mean, that's the new owner. That's 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: what I look at. Who owns this and it's now MGM. 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: And they have an arena, and what they need is 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: things to fill the arena. You need dates and there 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: are only so many concerts and shows that can that 110 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: can command the attention. You have a hockey team and 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: now you're gonna have a w NBA team. This is 112 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: all about events and content. So MGM making a move. 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean the days now of how how many teams 114 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: now it's we wonder what took soul? And now they 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: have said everybody's gonna have a team in Veigas. No 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: big deal, it's just Las Vegas. Yeah. The casino ownership 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: is not new to the w n b A that 118 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: Mohegan Sun has owned the Connecticut team for a while now. 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: But there's no question that we're continuing to see that 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: that strict line that used to exist between the gambling 121 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: industry and the professional sports industry. We're just chipping away 122 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: at the edges and that in every possible way. It's 123 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: it's that little march, right Evan. Next is sports betting, 124 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: federally regulated, legalized sports betting, which will be that next 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: great revenue stream for the league's and teams our Thanks 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Business of Sports reporter Evan Noby Williams, and 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: now Scott and I speak with baseball analysts and former 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: star player Keith Hernandez, a five time All Star. Keith, 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. It's my pleasure. I wanted to 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: start with sports as business. When did you, as a player, 131 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: first realize that this wasn't all fun and games that 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: sports was for you now a business at all. Remained fun, 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: fun and a game, but you do realize, I think 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: after your first trade, and I was fortunate. I mean 135 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: I only was traded once and I was let go 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: when I was older by the Mets, and I've spent 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: my last year in Cleveland and that was a whole 138 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: different pro ball game. But I think when you on 139 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: your first trade, you know, you come up in the 140 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: minor leagues, you have a sense of loyalty with the 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: ball club, and for me, I played, you know, two 142 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and a half years in the minor leagues, in the 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: eight and a half years in St. Louis. That's over 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a decade with the organization. And then you get traded. 145 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I think you realize you've had kind of a naive 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: perception of the game of the profession, and there is 147 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: a business side to it. And I mean obviously when 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: they trade you, they want someone else, so they're not 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: happy with you, and you feel rejected. So I think 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: that's the big cold shower. But you move on. You know, 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: it's part of life. You get the sense that players today, 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: because not only sports business has become part of the 153 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: consciousness of fans alike, do they get a sense earlier 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: in their careers, perhaps even while they're intellege reminers, that 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: it is a big business and they better treated as such. Well, 156 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: they certainly know it's a chance to make a lot 157 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: of money and you know, be put over the top. 158 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean one contract, they can make more money than 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: that I made, or they may they make more money. 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Well I want maybe, but I can't do the math. 161 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: But but this is fine. I love when players do this. 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: What was your top salary? I made two million, which 163 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: was top salary when I retired, So today two million 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: dollars is maybe a backup second basement. Is that right? 165 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Or am I stretching it too much? It's more okay, 166 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: it's the player that's probably a two year guy or 167 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: three year guy, two year guy that can't go to arbitration, 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: or you know, a mediocre player that's gone to arbitration. 169 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: But I think the lesser salaries are four million. And 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: but you know, it's all relevant. I mean, I think 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: that they're aware that there's a great opportunity for them 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: to take care of themselves financially the rest of their lives. 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: And you know, if they're married, their families an eventually 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: they will be married. So I think that in that sense, 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: if that's the business side of it, I don't know. Uh, 176 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: they still got to play the game. You've got to 177 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: perform to make the money. It's one thing to play 178 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, which obviously is a big market, but 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: it's another thing when you come to New York. Can 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: you talk about that experience when you come to the 181 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: biggest city in the U. S. Well, it's the number 182 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: one media market and the Northeastern fans are entirely different 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: breed of cats. Uh. You have Philadelphia, Boston and New 184 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: York and they are rabid fans. Um, they'll boo you, 185 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: although they never booed me in New York as I 186 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: played so well and we were we were so good. 187 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: It was another Golden Years and they had Golden eight 188 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: and the seven years I was there in New York. Um. 189 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: But there's definitely a difference in fans are different throughout 190 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the country. They're regionally. The Midwest experience with St. Louis, 191 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: they're just they're just as loyal and uh and pulling 192 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: for the home team. But in New York, at the 193 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: spotlight and the media glare, uh, the attention, it is 194 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: something different, and some guys can handle it and some 195 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: guys can't. You're right about Mets fans being extremely loyal. 196 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: My father in law is a die hard Mets fan 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: and he found out that I was going to talk 198 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: to you, and he's like, oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. 199 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: You gotta ask him this and ask him this is like, okay, 200 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: thank you, dad, I appreciate it. But the point of 201 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: the matter is you're right. The Mets fans are seemed 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: to be are more appreciative shouldn't say this than Yankees fans. Well, 203 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Yankees have had more success. 204 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: They I called met fans long suffering met fans. Um, 205 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: there's been more bad years than good and it always 206 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: seems like Murphy's law over there in met Land and 207 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Flushing and the Yankees, what they're doing this year is 208 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: really remarkable. And my hats are off to the front 209 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: office Brian Cashman. It's not easy to rebuild a team. 210 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: They had a wonderful team that had a wonderful run 211 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: and they all got old at once. And the Yankees 212 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: haven't stayed down for long. Um. They are top notch 213 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: organization that starts with this scouting um. They draft people 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and make trades uh for young people. They've developed them. 215 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: And in this case, you know, the Yankees have made 216 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: have some veterans on the and that they traded for. 217 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Obviously they made big trades in July the deadline that 218 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: really put them over the top. But you know they've 219 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: also developed Sanchez and Judge those kind of players, and 220 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: then they come to New York and they seem to 221 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: thrive for some reason. So there's something there's a positive 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: mojo over there in the Bronx. We're going to get 223 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: back to Aaron Judge a little bit, but I want 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: to ask you about that coming to New York and 225 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: thriving in general, there's no way of knowing, is there 226 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: which players will sink and which ones will swim? Do 227 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you have any litmus test for I think this guy 228 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: can be good in this market. You know, you can 229 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: ask questions and inquire, and I'm sure general managers do. 230 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I remember reading an article about Frank Cash and when 231 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: he made the trade for me, and Frank was also 232 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: involved in one of the greatest trades in baseball history 233 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: when he traded UH was involved in that Milk Pappas 234 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: trade for Frank Robinson that brought Frank to the Baltimore Orioles. Uh. 235 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Frank said that we knew we were getting a great player, 236 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: but we didn't know we were getting UH a leader 237 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: still leadership qualities. That was something that was just about us, 238 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: and he felt that Frank Robinson was the one that 239 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: turned the Orioles and had into a mentally tough team. 240 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: He drove his team, and he was also making the 241 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: comparison to my trade. So it's hard to figure out 242 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: if you get a bad apple you could get a 243 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: bad apple and someone with a bad attitude. You just 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, there's always rumors running around. But 245 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: some players just like to go out and play and 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: don't give anything out else except their performance on the field. 247 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes a lot of times that's good enough. But 248 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: then there's players that give more and to the team 249 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: and that that's a hard commodity to find. You know 250 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: that when you get that, it's it's like the motherload. Keith. 251 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: We teased at Aaron Judge, I've run out of adjectives 252 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: for this guy. I mean, he goes on this big 253 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: strikeout streak, people get a little down on him, then 254 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: he's popping balls out of the yard. Again, give me 255 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: York take on what he has accomplished and what he 256 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: means not only for baseball but for the New York Yankees. Well, 257 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: he's a budding superstar. He's going to probably either he 258 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: or el Tov are going to be the Most Valuable Player. 259 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: And you know you can't the votes are already in 260 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: this postseason. Has nothing to do with the m v 261 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: P voting. Who would get the Keith rnandas vote boy, 262 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: it's a tough one that that that either one is 263 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: worthy of the award and one of us is going 264 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: to be disappointed. So we'll see. I'm actually very curious 265 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: to see how the voting turns out. You've got a 266 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: guy that can be as a rookie, you know, the 267 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: home run leader as well as a an m v P. 268 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of Mickey Mantle kind of stuff, and what 269 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: does he mean to baseball? But he's another guy that 270 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: baseball can make is their face of the game. He 271 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: carries himself very well. He's very humble, He's not a 272 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: braggadocio at all. That's what impresses me. Um. You know, 273 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: we had the bad slump and after the All Star 274 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: break running blow over a month and he broke out 275 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: and had a great September. It's always a positive sign 276 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: for him to get off the sets. The terrible start, 277 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen anybody has such a bad 278 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: start with the strikeouts and the one one for twenty 279 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and to see him persevere, I mean, 280 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: these are all signs of a very strong, uh mind, 281 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: a very uh tenacious individual that doesn't quit. So that's 282 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: what's been most impressive to me. He's got a beautiful swing. 283 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: I'll always like to Swin. He's a classic cleanup hitter. 284 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't buy the Saber metric of hitting your best 285 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: hitter in a two hole. He gets more chances to 286 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: drive in runs and more at bats. I don't buy it. 287 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Um the game has turned to power. But and he 288 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: certainly delivers that. Um, he's like he should be in 289 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: that four hole. You've got guys like Gardener who should 290 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: be hitting up in the one two hole, and your 291 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: best hitter, your third hitter, which I think eventually could 292 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: be Bird, another guy the Yankees have developed that looks 293 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: very impressive to me. This is the ball club now 294 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that is going to be good for a good stretch. Now, 295 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and they seem to have The Yankees seems 296 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: to just have it. They've you know, he's Aaron Judge. 297 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: They've got the people out there in the in the chambers, 298 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: and here comes the judge and everybody's wearing the wigs. 299 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: It's it's someone that's it's a PRS dream, the team's dream. 300 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Plus the fact that this won't go to this kid's head. 301 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I just think he's got his He's firmly planted in 302 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the ground. He's not going to get overwhelmed. And become 303 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: a fat head, and uh forget his roots. So this 304 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: is just really good for baseball, good for the Yankees. 305 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: In newsflash, you would shuffle the batting order. He won't 306 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: become a fat head, but he's gonna sell a lot 307 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: of fat heads because everybody wants them on the wall. 308 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: This rufie and character, And that's what I mean about 309 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: the business side of baseball. I see New York playgrounds 310 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and you see kids wearing Leo Messi Jersey's neymar Steph 311 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Curry all of a sudden, while baseball is trying to 312 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: figure out a way to connect with kids. And it's 313 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: about digital, It's about iPods, you know what it's about. 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: It's about this larger than life character hitting home runs. 315 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: All I see all around New York City are kids 316 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: wearing number nine jerseys. You said it's a PR it's 317 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: a PR gift. It's a dollars and cents gift to 318 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: no uh, no question. I mean baseball of the multime 319 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: a million a billion dollar industry, and um, they want 320 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: to keep it going and they need stars. And you 321 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: know what better places in New York to have someone 322 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: like him. He's the new He's the modern day Babe Ruth. Okay, 323 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: when the fifty home runs, I don't care. I mean, 324 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: I feel the balls juice this year big time. Uh. 325 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: They want home runs in the commissioner's office, they know 326 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: what they're doing. But fifty home runs is fifty home 327 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: runs in any league, and he's There's never been anybody 328 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: like him. The closest thing I can think is Frank 329 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Howard of the old Washington Senators and lost in Los 330 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers. And Frank was six eight and a big guy. 331 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: But Judge is to seventy. I don't think Hondo was 332 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: to seventy and very lights Uh athletic plays a good defense. Uh, 333 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: He's just I think he's the modern day Babe Ruth. 334 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I just I just feel that Babe Ruth when he 335 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: came in and the dead ball area era, he transformed 336 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: baseball with the home run and I think that this 337 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: kid is doing the same thing in modern times. How 338 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: do you watch your games when you're at home? There's 339 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: that big debate of at home versus at the stadium. 340 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: You love the TV or on the go? Do you 341 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: love it on your iPad in your phone? I still 342 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: have I think the best picture I still have the 343 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: Plasmas and they're they're they're big. Um. So I like 344 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: the big screen like the h D It's incredible. But 345 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: I do eat out a lot, and I do have 346 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: to watch the Mets play. Uh, when I'm working the 347 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: games that I do in the course of a season, 348 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and when i'm off, I get usually get you know, 349 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: ten and twelve days off coming up around four or 350 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: five chunks of that. I have to watch the Mets 351 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: and see what's going on. And I'll bring my iPad 352 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: to the restaurant and I'll watch on my iPad, but 353 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I prefer to watch on my big, big TV. Now 354 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: that's a big change because back in our day when 355 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: I watched the Mets, when I watched you play, I 356 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: had an old analog TV and it was like about 357 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: about maybe sixteen seventeen inches. Now today, like you said, 358 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: you can watch the game on an iPad or any 359 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: digital device. Can you talk about that how viewing has 360 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: changed in sports, not just in baseball. Well, it's just 361 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: never another avenue of of of ownership in the leagues 362 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: in all sports. To get the fans to watch their sport. Uh, 363 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: people have to work, you know, people go out to dinner, 364 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: People go out and barbecue, go to the beach. You 365 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: can bring it along and you can kind of keep track. 366 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: It keeps them, it keeps them interested in the team. 367 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's the ultimate goals. Viewership. Uh, they 368 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: want viewership and they want people. And there were people 369 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: to come to the ballpark, want to come to the ballpark, 370 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: wanted to go there. Now with the ball with all 371 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: the stadiums now, it's like it's like a state fair. 372 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Which I understand the business part of it there, and 373 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: that's to me where it's real business. And people you know, 374 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: are not in their seats, they're up in the bars, 375 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: in the restaurants, uh, walking around the stadium. They got 376 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: TVs everywhere, so you can walk around the stadium and 377 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: still watch the game and not miss the action. And 378 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: they're spending their money, and you know it's their choice. 379 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: If no one's got a gun at their head saying, hey, 380 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: you gotta buy this, you gotta do this, you gotta 381 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: do that. Uh, So that extent uh the game is 382 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: uh it really okan overboard a little bit business wise, 383 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: but I understand. I don't think it helps. I think 384 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: people have a low attention spans today and I think 385 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: this adds to it. Uh. You know, when I was 386 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: a kid, we went to the ballgame, saw the Giants 387 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: fly in San Francisco. We had to sit in our 388 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: seats and we watched the game, and we watched intently. 389 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: We didn't have the music bosting in our ears. In 390 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: between endings, you can sit and have a conversation with 391 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: your mom or your dad, or my brother or and 392 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: talk about the play. It was a relaxing afternoon. And 393 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: it's not that anymore. It's just too much noise for me. 394 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: It drives me bats. They want to keep the people 395 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: hyped up. The the game is not the really, I 396 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's the selling point anymore. I mean based 397 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: the game used to be the hook to get the 398 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: people in. I don't. I don't think it's that way anymore. 399 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: It's just people want to go. It's a social event 400 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: and they can go and they're on their iPhones, they're texting, 401 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: they're doing video. Oh you know, it's like it's just 402 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: like they're at disney Land. But you know, life goes forward. 403 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: And I feel good to be a part of the 404 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: game and in some way and broadcasting end of it. 405 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: But there are things I don't like you go to 406 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: the Midwest and you go to St. Louis, they still 407 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: watch the game. Um, they're not. It's still kind of 408 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: old fashioned there in the Midwest has always been behind 409 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: the East and the West coast. And I kind of 410 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: a little more conservative when it comes to that. Is 411 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: it time to speed up the game because of what 412 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: you just mentioned? Yes, but I know that Major League 413 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: Baseball has done their cost benefit analysis and they know 414 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: how long the games can go with that to the 415 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: where where it will not be a negative. It's something 416 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: they get. Their cost benefit analysis came back and said 417 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: they can get away with four hour games. There be 418 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: four hour games. So they're talking about trying to slow 419 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: the game, speed up the game. They are whistling, Dixie. 420 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe a word of it. Well, they say 421 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: they're trying to speed up the game because you mentioned it, 422 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: it's they're trying to at the millennials. They don't have 423 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: the attention span. Everybody seems to be one of getting faster, faster, faster. 424 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you will. 425 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: But isn't the beauty of baseball that there is no 426 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: time limit? That you do have to think about if 427 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: the ball is hit to me on this play, what 428 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: do I do? If it's hit there? What do I do? 429 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: The conversation, Should I pinch it here? Should I hit 430 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: to the right side? Has that sort of that part 431 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: of the romance of the game. Is it gone forever now? 432 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: They'll always be fans that will enjoy it. I mean, 433 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: it's not so much the player, it's the fans setting. 434 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: They're going saying those things. Uh, if we know the 435 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: balls hit here, shouldn't be Should the manager take the 436 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: picture out the players in front of the boar? Is 437 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: a bad base running there by that guy? It's the 438 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: summer game. It's a game of relaxation, and the world 439 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: is spitting at a very rapid rate, and it's it 440 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: has infected everything. So even in the sports world and 441 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: particularly certainly in the in then um in baseball. Even 442 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: though we're talking about speeding up the game, that kind 443 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: of sounds like a paradox because the game is long 444 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: and there's a way too long for me. But you know, 445 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of analytics. Now, Little did uh 446 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: Steve jobs and it's a big old I can't think 447 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: of his name from Microsoft. Little did they know what 448 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: they brought into this world when they brought in the 449 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: computer computers, and how it's changed everything and the game 450 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: has become too much statistic oriented and they break it 451 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: down every little detail. You've got all these pitching changes, 452 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: too many pictures, too many three two counts, too many teams, 453 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: not enough talent, a lot of mediocrity. But when you 454 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, you see the best four teams 455 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: are what is it, the two wild cards? So you 456 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: see the best eight teams and the caliber play. And 457 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: that's the caliber of player that we used to say, 458 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: used to see every day, even the bad teams. When 459 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: I was playing at you know, quality players. I knew 460 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: how to play the game. And it wasn't just a 461 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: strikeout our home run. It gets quite one base at 462 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: a time. It gets quite boring. But you know one 463 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: of my I have. I have no power in this. 464 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: This is what they want and this is what the 465 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: public is gonna get. Keith, you can shape perception as 466 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: a broadcaster because of who you are. So you mentioned 467 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Bill Gates and Bill James. You know he he brought 468 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: the analytics to baseball. If if we can pretend then 469 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: you do have the power. You are Commissioner of Baseball 470 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: Keith Hernandez. We already know what Yankee manager Keith Hernandez 471 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: would do. Move Aaron judged the four hole. What's the 472 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: first item on Commissioner Hernandez is to do list that 473 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: improves the game. I would go to a hundred and 474 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: fifty four games schedule number one because of the extra 475 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: tier of playoffs, and you won't be playing in novem 476 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: her like the old days. Um, I'd get rid of 477 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: the d h uh. I get rid of four teams 478 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: it's not happening. Instead of one thing, I got three 479 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: things I do out top of my list. So you 480 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: give a man a little power, he wants a lot more. 481 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Keithan and as, by the way, a brilliant job. I 482 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: mean from the veil. Now you're a current broadcaster and 483 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: a great analyst. Keith and Nanez. Thank you so much 484 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: for talking with us. All right, my pleasure. Thank you. 485 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: Takeaways Keith and Andez. He's old school baseball, which of 486 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: course I love. But he also brought up the point 487 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: that old school baseball not necessarily is what the owners 488 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: want today. They want the money, they want people in 489 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: and it's whether they're making their money from cocktails in 490 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: the outfield. That people are not watching the game. They're 491 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: just happy to be in the pavilion to have a 492 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: happy hour. So be it my takeaway right off the batman, 493 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge has had a pretty good season, a ruth 494 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: of the babe ruth of today. But he wants to 495 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: hit him number four. He wants he wants that six 496 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: ft seven power hitter in the four hole, not hitting 497 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: number two, drop them down driving more runs. Very interesting 498 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: to see moving forward where Aaron Judge winds up in 499 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: the Yankee lineup. Feels better to be number one than 500 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: number five. I'll wear a number because of Mike. We 501 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: have a chance to go for three in a row. Kid. 502 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: Numbers are a good time, and let's first started wearing 503 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: the number. I would just have the floomberg business of sports. 504 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: The number of the week, time for the number of 505 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: the week, and you have it as number eleven, number eleven. 506 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with baseball. We're going 507 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: back to basketball, and it's the number of carrots diamonds 508 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: in the Golden State Warriors Championship ring. I I mean, 509 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: for me, I think it would take four fingers to 510 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: fill that thing up. Those guys maybe like two it 511 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: looks like a basketball on their fing, but eleven carrots 512 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: the most ever put in a ring for any of 513 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: the major championship sports. And they just had this promotion 514 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: to give away replica rings to the fans, which I 515 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: think is really neat. So fourteen carrot gold replica is 516 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: probably something else. But you said giveaway something. Something tells 517 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: me that some amount of cash will be flowing from 518 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: fan to team in that transaction. Oh yeah, you've been 519 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports. 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