1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. Single best idea on 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: the night, the evening, the pageantry of the State of 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the Union. We're going to get to Professor Schiller, Wendy Schiller, 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Brown University down the line. This is where we give 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: you two thoughts from our show. Today's show is wildly eclectic. 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: We talked about ESG and the new ESG, the challenges there, 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: to say the least. We had a wonderful discussion on leverage. 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: How much leverage do you have into in video? Over 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars a share. But and again this is 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: the do you give you a vignette here into how 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: we act? I have no control purposely over the guests 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: we get. I will say to people, you know, all 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: this guests really didn't fit, or that one didn't fit. 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: But basically, Bob Bragg and our team put the entire 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: show together without talking to me. And what that usually 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: means is I get really wonderful surprises. I got a 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: wonderful surprise at eight fifty five this morning, we're in 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: five minutes. We had Christopher Whalen come on. He has 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the definitive one volume on American financial history Inflated. He 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: announced on the show. He's in rewrite out at a 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: substantial rewrite, but he's wonderful. On analysis of the banking system, 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: we talked about SVB in the spring. I guess a 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: year ago. Now we have NYCB in New York really 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: troubled the former Treasury secretary coming in yesterday with a 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: billion Whalen and I agree that seems like an awful 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: small amount of money. But what we really did with 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Chris Whalen is we talked about, Okay, we're here, where 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: are we going within the banking system? 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: So I think your dad, there were a lot of 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: models that grew over the last ten years, really since 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight that don't work at and particularly 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: the change in the valuation of urban commercial and urban 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 2: multi family real estate. It's episodic. You know, I raided 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: many of the banks in New York Tom when I 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: was picked Corole. These portfolios had to see any appreciable 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: credit loss in seventy five, one hundred years, and they 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: were always fully let. These buildings today we're talking about 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: are fully lit the cash flow, but you can't sell them. 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: The value has been cutting half. 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: There's a window into where we are with the NYCB, 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: and what we're talking about there is the marketing concepts 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: where SVB was going after for reduced fees, people with 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: a lot of money to sit there where they could 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: make money on the lead brick of money in their portfolio. 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: And NYCB had to do with the vicissitudes of the 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: New York City rental market and all that and where 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: we go from here. It was really interesting. Chris, there's 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: some real vulnerabilities out there. He seems to be dead 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: on that. We'll have to follow this very closely into 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: next year. And of course we'll do this with Banker, 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: and he's coming out. I actually looked already. It's not 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: upon us, but out one month. JP Morgan on April twelfth. 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: We're out on Apple car Play. We're on YouTube live. 54 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: A lot of confusion there. It's just simple, go to 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: YouTube and this is live seven to ten Wall Street time. 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: You type in Bloomberg Podcasts and you go there and 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: it says surveillance this that, and you can get a 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: wonderful live feed of Paul Sweeney, as handsome as he is. 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: It is single best idea. Thank you so much for 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: tuning in. It's an experiment, it's a work in progress, 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: to say the least. We are listening to Chris Wayland 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: talking about banking systems, the troubles that are out there 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: specifically for NYCB, and the rescue I guess I'll call 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: it a rescue in the last twenty four hours. The 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: rescue tonight is for President Biden. He has to come 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: out with all the politics of his party and of 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: this nation and do the pageantry that from our childhood 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: we all adore. A little bit of history here George 69 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Washington had an annual address in seventeen ninety and then 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: on you go with all different permutations of a State 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: of the Union. It became somewhat codified with FDR and 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: radio Harry Truman, I believe was the first televised State 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: of the Union that was before my time. Wise guys 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: out there, and then on we go to the pageantry 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: and then the amazing television football that we have now. 76 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Of course we'll have complete coverage with Joe Matthew and 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: Kaylee Lines with people not the usual back and forth politics, 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: but people with some real depth about the pending Biden 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: Trump battle. We went for depth, and we do that 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: at Brown University with Wendy Schiller, her textbook is definitive 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: in America as an introduction to high level civics. And 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: she was fired up today, Wendy Schiller here on a 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: fractious Democratic Party. 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: I think the Biden missasion made a pretty significant flaw 85 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: in their selling of their legislative program, the Inflation Reduction 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: Act infrastructure. They didn't really really tie what they we're 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: doing to how it's going to improve people's lives. And 88 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: this is what Democrats do. They go big. They're successful, 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: yet a lot of big things passed, and then they 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: completely fail to selve properly. The Republicans cut taxes, raised deficits, 91 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: and they are the magic party on the economy. This 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: has been true for forty years. I mean, I don't 93 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: know if there's a magic, you know, magic answer to this, 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: but I think right now, telling people the economy is 95 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: better than they think it is is not going to work. 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: Showing people how the government has helped them in the 97 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: face of a bad economy a couple of years ago. 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: May one, Wendy Schiller, consultant to the Democratic Party. She 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: said in the early nineteen eighties, and they said, Okay, 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: that's enough of that. But her enthusiasm is really infectious. 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: It's just like whatever your political persuasion, every time she 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: is with us, the professor from around university makes us 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: smarter about the political process. The goal of single best 104 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: idea is not to make you smarter. I'm not going 105 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: to do that for you. The goal is to take 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the treasured conversations we have an economics, finance investment on 107 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: international relations and give you two little vignettes into what 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: we've done today. An Apple CarPlay and YouTube lige on 109 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: Bloomberg surveillance