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Speaker 1: with You Doug Gottleb Show, Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day. You know,

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Speaker 1: we are. Falls definitely arrived in northeast Wisconsin. Boys, it's

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Speaker 1: like forty degrees last night, windy, the colors are beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's we've got another we we completely

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Speaker 1: skipped over. It was like one week of the really

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Speaker 1: cool sunny part of fall, and now it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what's coming next, right, big boy?

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Speaker 2: Right, that's Midwest living for you, Doug. Yeah, you get

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Speaker 2: like a handful of days or like seventies sunny and

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Speaker 2: then I got a straight.

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Speaker 1: I gotta share with you guys. A quick story is

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Speaker 1: Doug Gatlip share on Fox Sports Trail. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to the midway in a second. When you're when when

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Speaker 1: you're coaching, you know, sometimes you get into coach mode

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Speaker 1: like yelling screamer because they just they frustrate the hell

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Speaker 1: to do this, you're not doing it yet, and it

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Speaker 1: takes a while for stuff to resonate, and everything else

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Speaker 1: is going on. One guy's hurt and this guy's got

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Speaker 1: this whatever. So I was trying to come up with

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Speaker 1: an analogy for my team. I just again, I this

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Speaker 1: is what it's really like. Okay. So obviously we play

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Speaker 1: and we play a crazy schedule if you know anything

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Speaker 1: about college basketball. Obviously we open at Kansas, one of

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Speaker 1: the best programs, if not the best program in the country. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but we play we only play three non conference home games.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play Yale, they're picked when the IVY League.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play Santa Barbara. They're picked to when the

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Speaker 1: Bick to when the the what was the Big West? Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: likely play College at Charleston. They're picked to win I

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Speaker 1: think the CIA, you play Saint Thomas. They're picked to

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Speaker 1: win the Summit League, and they did win the Summonth

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Speaker 1: League last year. Like it's it's really hard and the

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Speaker 1: only way in which you can really be effective offensive

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Speaker 1: and you're watching. The magic to the Warriors is that

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Speaker 1: despite the twenty four second shot clock, they move it

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Speaker 1: side to side. The more passes, the higher of the

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Speaker 1: shopper centers, the higher your efficiency. And so I was

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Speaker 1: trying to describe this to my team. So I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's what you guys are. Okay, you guys are the

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Speaker 1: high school or early college kid who the second you

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Speaker 1: can make out with a girl, you start trying to

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Speaker 1: take off all your clothes. Guys, you gotta talk to

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Speaker 1: him on the phone. You gotta text him, you gotta

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Speaker 1: take him out to dinner. You gotta be chivalrous. You

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Speaker 1: gotta establish a relationship. Right, You got to kind of

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Speaker 1: go through some state and then the other stuff kind

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Speaker 1: of takes care of itself. Offensive basketball is much the

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Speaker 1: same way. Right. We can't just every time we come

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Speaker 1: down trying just score right away. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: was really proud of my analogy. Today. Guys are dying.

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Speaker 1: Guys came literally came into the office like coach, I

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Speaker 1: get it now, I get it, But like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't get it. Because I was once a twenty

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Speaker 1: we go from A to Z? Right? Come on?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do remember a quote from John Wooden saying

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Speaker 3: that for play in basketball is so important. So well

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Speaker 3: he said gets like a lot of hype. But also

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Speaker 3: I think it was him saying that for play is

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Speaker 1: Well, that was actually the thing. I couldn't remember the word,

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Speaker 1: and I made sure this is the this is the

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Speaker 1: slowly maturing but made sure look around. Okay, now who's

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Speaker 1: in the gym? Oh no's in the gym? Yes, he

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Speaker 1: said be quick, but don't hurry, and for play is

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Speaker 1: one of the keys to success. That's actually most people

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Speaker 1: only use half the quote Dan, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's because it doesn't matter that the means to it.

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Speaker 1: So you got to meet him on their level. That's

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. This is the Doug Gotlip Show reminder.

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Speaker 1: At some point, you'll be able to see Jay stew

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's pulling off one of the all time heists.

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Speaker 1: Like he all he has to do is sit in

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Speaker 1: most of them negative. Let's turn over.

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Speaker 5: To Jayseto today, gentlemen for the group text. I sent

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Speaker 5: this out for the Midway. What is the one storyline

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Speaker 5: you are most interested about here with the new NBA season? Now,

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Speaker 5: I'd like to do just one, don't stam it up,

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Speaker 5: just one and then drill.

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Speaker 4: Down, dog, I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 3: Can I go first?

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Speaker 4: No, Midway, Dan Byer, what.

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Speaker 5: Do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think that it is Janis and Tetecumpo's future, or

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Speaker 3: possibly lack thereof. In Milwaukee, it was a storyline throughout

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Speaker 3: the season that went silent and then all of a

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Speaker 3: with ownership. It said that he was committed to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: If the Bucks season turns on its head, which it

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Speaker 3: shouldn't do because of a variety of reasons. But if

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Speaker 3: the season turns on its head, it's what does Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: do with Yannis? Who to get in the mix? And

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Speaker 3: this may go on all the way until next summer

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Speaker 3: as well. But I think watching the state of the

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Speaker 3: if there was an opportunity for him to leave Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: for a different team, that now may be that time.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that that decision is is so

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Speaker 3: story that I think is in my mind, a huge,

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Speaker 1: Literately, back up what Dan said, where obviously came out

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Speaker 1: that the Knicks wanted him, and like he he only

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Speaker 1: wants to play for the Knicks right outside of Milwaukee's

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Speaker 1: what he says. This reminds me of so many court

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Speaker 1: room dramas we've seen growing up. Right, he opened the door, right,

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Speaker 1: once you open the door. Now you open the door

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Speaker 1: to Okay, Well, if it's not New York, there's got

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Speaker 1: Even if the ask is is I'm I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you that that's one of the two biggest storylines.

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Speaker 1: And once you open that door now allows it allows

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Speaker 1: for no one denied that story. That's the whole thing

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Speaker 1: and goes, that's not true. We weren't interested in moving.

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Speaker 1: We weren't interested we there's no discussion. Nobody denied it.

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Speaker 1: So it is out there, and once it's out there,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Dan, I also think that there's if you had

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Speaker 3: this conversation, say five six years ago, Jannis in his

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Speaker 3: young prime, that didn't seem like it was feasible. And

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Speaker 3: it was also a time where the NBA you didn't

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Speaker 3: think a team like the Milwaukee could win a championship. Sure,

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Speaker 3: so Milwaukee ends up winning one with Giannis. But it's

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Speaker 3: also now the fact, because of the second apron, because

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Speaker 3: we've seen the volatility now of NBA champions it's no

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Speaker 3: longer a long shot for some of these teams in

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Speaker 3: a winner, where previously, if you were to give up

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Speaker 3: Giannis and you were the Bucks, you would have no

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Speaker 3: shot because you couldn't compete in free agency, you couldn't

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Speaker 3: compete with these other teams. Now I think it's completely

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Speaker 3: different in that manner, in that manner, and now you

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Speaker 3: Giannis who maybe does say, yeah, I'd kind of like

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Speaker 3: to win another championship somewhere and if it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be here. Back then, it seemed like there was

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Speaker 3: I think now you have a reason to say that

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Speaker 3: both sides could be motivated to make a deal depending

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Speaker 3: on how things go, especially with the stup for grabs

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: Eas step for grabs is a big, big, big thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me give you mine, gupe. Where's Lebron James finished

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Speaker 1: this season? Right? Is Lebron James hurt or is he injured? Right?

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Speaker 1: And if you remember, it's a obviously an all sports expression,

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Speaker 1: but probably first brought to the forefront with the Program, right,

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Speaker 1: that old movie The Program. Anyway, if you heard, get

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Speaker 1: back out there. If you're injured, go see a doctor.

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Speaker 1: We use that today.

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Speaker 1: I'm not questioning whether or not his sciatic hurts, but

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Speaker 1: it's Lebron James. Okay, And did you notice last night?

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Speaker 1: Last year? Okay, last year, Jay Stu, what happened? Opening night?

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Speaker 1: Bronni played and we were and we were told that

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Speaker 1: Bronnie is gonna gonna be a rotation player year two.

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Speaker 1: Anybody see the box score last night?

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Speaker 3: I thought the same thing during the game.

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Speaker 1: Didn't take off the sweats, didn't pee a drop nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know why, because he can't play at that level.

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Speaker 1: And the only reason they did it was to pacify Lebron.

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Speaker 1: And it's pretty obvious that they're over Lebron, right, and

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Speaker 1: they're over Lebron because of crap Like last night we

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Speaker 1: got Opening night against the Golden State Warriors. We traded

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Speaker 1: for one of the great players now and in the

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Speaker 1: future of the game. And you can't play, you can't dress,

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Speaker 1: you can't run up and down because you're psiatic hurts.

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Speaker 1: We're never gonna but we're not playing your kid again.

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Speaker 1: That ain't happening. We're the laughing stock in the league.

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Speaker 1: By the way Marcus. No one can wreck a watch

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Speaker 1: of a game like Marcus Smart. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 5: There's so many stories. But if you put a gun

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Speaker 1: guaranteed deal. So you know, it just strikes the whole

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Speaker 1: thing strikes me as odd. But then again, it's the Jets.

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Speaker 1: What do we expect.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been some you know, there's it feels like

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Speaker 6: there's been a long time where they've struggled and they've

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Speaker 6: had a lot of these types of issues pop up.

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Speaker 6: I would say that the takeaway for me was, you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe you know, I think they had kind of a

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Speaker 6: good laugh at the Aaron Rodgers thing. Hey we brought

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Speaker 6: him in and you know, flew him all the way

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Speaker 6: across the country and sent him on his way, and

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Speaker 6: it was kind of like we you know, new sheriff

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Speaker 6: in town type thing, and it's like, okay, you can

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Speaker 6: strip away whether you like him you don't like him.

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Speaker 6: I would argue, even you know, personality aside, probably deserved

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Speaker 6: a little bit better treatment than that. And then now

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Speaker 6: you look up and you're like, goll Lee, they would

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Speaker 6: love to have him based with what they're looking at

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Speaker 6: the quarterback position right now.

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Speaker 5: M h.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, he's taking on his old team.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk Steelers defense. What happened. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: did nothing. Joe Flacco was back there behind an offensive

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Speaker 1: line which people accuse of allowing Joe Burrow to get

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Speaker 1: hurt being so bad. And here you have Flacco who's

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Speaker 1: in his forties and not as mobile as Burrow, and

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Speaker 1: he's standing tall in that pocket. Granted they got rid

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Speaker 1: of it pretty quick. What happened in Pittsburgh front.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think that was the front. I mean

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Speaker 6: that was a back issue. You know, they that you know,

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Speaker 6: Flacco was getting rid of the ball pretty quick. When

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Speaker 6: you go back through, he's got guys wide open, and

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Speaker 6: you've got some you know, some veteran guys in that secondary.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's kind of a collective loss

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Speaker 6: to step saying, but you don't get that open unless

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Speaker 6: there's major communication and bus you know, in terms of

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Speaker 6: the issues there. So that was a that was a

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Speaker 6: secondary problem for them, and that you know, it's just

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Speaker 6: they haven't been buttoned up on defense, which is unusual

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Speaker 6: for so many years. That's where they were locked in

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Speaker 6: and you didn't see you know, guys running naked down

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Speaker 6: the field. It's just all over the place. And this

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Speaker 6: is Jamark Chase. This isn't like the freaking backup tight

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Speaker 6: end that they you know, had like a leak route

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Speaker 6: with and kind of snuck him down the seam like

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Speaker 6: this is the arguably the best receiver in football. There's

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Speaker 6: nobody within ten yards of them like that. That is inexcusable.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they have I don't think they have

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Speaker 6: a major front issue there. I think they still have

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Speaker 6: a lot of good players up there in that front,

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Speaker 6: but many they are there, as we would say. But

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you talk about this in basketball too, Doug,

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Speaker 6: But like they are not tied together at all defensively.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you. I've seen it. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: as well. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Okay, Bill's got a chance to get back

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Speaker 1: on track against the Panthers. How likely is that to happen?

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Speaker 6: Well, give the Panthers credit, I know, you know, see

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Speaker 6: what happens with Bryce Young. But they've been running the ball,

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Speaker 6: they've been playing good defense. They you know, I pick them.

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Speaker 6: I think I pick them to lose Darner every week,

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Speaker 6: and they still somehow have been rolling here and winning

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Speaker 6: some games. So it doesn't on the surface, I think

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Speaker 6: it's a get right game. But man, they're uh, they're

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Speaker 6: playing a little bit better there. So I'd like to

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Speaker 6: see coming off of a little bit of a rest

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Speaker 6: if if Buffalo could you know, just be a little

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Speaker 6: more explosive offensively, and then you know, defensively, just you know,

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Speaker 6: be able to get home and have a little more pressure,

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Speaker 6: a little more consistent pressure. I don't think we've seen

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Speaker 6: much in their pass rush the whole year.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: is our guest. Course, Move the Sticks is the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely out outstanding. Okay, Uh, what do people

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Speaker 1: in the league say about the Browns thing? They did

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Speaker 1: go and win a game, right, but it's against the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and Dolphins are complete poop show. Okay, but Tomlin

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Speaker 1: says you can't do that. Then Joe Flacco goes and

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Speaker 1: wins the game against Tomlin. And I've just heard from

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Speaker 1: NFL people how upset they are with the Browns. But

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Speaker 1: what you know, way more people in the NFL. How

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Speaker 1: do they view the Browns trading indivision to a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that kind of saves the Bengals season.

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Speaker 6: I would say it's just kind of, you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: more so of an unwritten rule type thing. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I also have people that are saying, you know, it's

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Speaker 6: it's a team that's looking forward, you know, to the future,

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Speaker 6: and they have every right to do that. So you know,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you've got to be

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Speaker 6: whoever's on the other team that you're playing against. It's

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Speaker 6: just kind of I would say, maybe a little frowned upon,

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Speaker 6: but well within their right to do, you know, what

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Speaker 6: they did and get a look at these younger quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: So I wouldn't say outrage almost more just like kind

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Speaker 6: of a roll your eyes, like, you know, oh, of

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Speaker 6: course the Browns are punning, you know, punning and in

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Speaker 6: an asset to a division opponent this early in the season.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of like one of those one of

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Speaker 6: those like it's a Browns thing type deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hear you did. We were we wrong

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys?

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Speaker 6: Offensively? They're good, man. I don't think that, you know,

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Speaker 6: I thought the expectation was that they could be a

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Speaker 6: good offensive team. I think they're even better than that. They're,

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Speaker 6: you know, playing like an elite offensive team. Dack's playing

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Speaker 6: at a crazy high level. They got a lot of

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Speaker 6: good pieces there. Defensively, I still have major, you know,

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Speaker 6: major concerns of what they look like there. So I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be They're gonna be a watchable product

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Speaker 6: because of the offense. It's going to be fun. You know,

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Speaker 6: they can hang in this division where it doesn't look

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Speaker 6: like Philadelphia's. It looks like Philadelphia is almost kind of

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Speaker 6: sleep walking through the regular season. So I mean, they

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Speaker 6: can hang around. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: I still don't think they have enough defense to get

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Speaker 6: where they want to go.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I would, I would agree with you. This

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Speaker 1: is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Last thing,

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Speaker 1: obviously you do the draft for the NFL network. Arch

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Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be close to being ready. Aler gets

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Speaker 1: hurt and he wasn't having a good year. So as

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Speaker 1: we watch the Jets, who are going to need a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the Saints, who are going to need a quarterback, these

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Speaker 1: teams at the bottom, what where where are we with

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks likely to come out into the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 6: Well, the two names that are you know, getting the

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Speaker 6: most heat right now throughout the year have been Simpson

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Speaker 6: from Alabama and Mendoza from Indiana. And I don't you know,

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Speaker 6: I just got all my video actually just arrived the

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Speaker 6: Ethedex today, so I'm excited to uh to jump in

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Speaker 6: on it. But the the con the consensus early on

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Speaker 6: seems to be those are the two guys that people

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Speaker 6: are excited about, but nobody views them as you know,

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Speaker 6: can't miss big time, you know, high high graded players.

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Speaker 6: But just of this group, those seem to be the

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Speaker 6: best of the class.

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Speaker 1: Day Listen, have yourself a great Thursday night call. Then

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Speaker 1: you got the weekend off? What is it? What does

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Speaker 1: a color man do on the weekend off? With the Chargers?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna go watch the Christian High Patriots versus

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Speaker 6: the Point Loma. Gosh, what are they the Lancers?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I have to ask Aaron Eric Allen

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Speaker 6: who went there the Hall of Famer. But we got a

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Speaker 6: high school fooball game Friday night and then a lot

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Speaker 6: of college football at home on Saturday. Maybe a nice

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Speaker 6: steak dinner with the with the family, a little church

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Speaker 6: on Sunday, which is rare to go to church on

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Speaker 6: Sunday in the football season. And then uh, and a

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Speaker 6: lot of a lot of sleep, Doug, a lot of sleep.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting old, man.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. You show up at

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Speaker 1: church with your wife. She's like, who are you you sure? Sure?

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Speaker 1: You don't usually come around these yer parts. DJ, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the weekend off. We need the bullets to get back

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Speaker 1: on the right side tomorrow night. Thanks for being our guest,

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Speaker 1: see Buddy all right, Stug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate Jay Stu not bringing up the fact

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Speaker 1: that Dodgers continue to play with the Padres, continue to

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Speaker 1: to fish to fish, that's what they do. Coming up

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Speaker 1: next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, do you hear what

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Tom Izzo had to say about a

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Speaker 1: recent ruling in college basketball? If you missed it, I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna enjoy it and I'll give you my

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Speaker 1: thoughts on it. That's up coming next.

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Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on

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Speaker 1: Got get done. Let's get to the press with Dan

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Speaker 1: Byer the press.

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Speaker 3: Dabe, what you got London is calling in college basketball?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, no, not what I'm talking about it

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Speaker 3: all London Johnson, a point guard who spent time in

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Speaker 3: the NBA's G League. Earlier this week, announced that he

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Speaker 3: has committed to play for the Louisville Cardinals. Expected to

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Speaker 3: arrive at Louisville mid year. And then we'll sit out.

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Speaker 3: You'll have two years remaining of eligibility. According to your buddy,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Goodman, my buddy as well, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: Jeff as well as you do. And I haven't talked

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Speaker 3: to Jeff in about twelve years, so, but The Field

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Speaker 3: of sixty eight's Jeff Goodman reporting that it's a topic

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Speaker 3: of conversation that has made waves in college basketball, including

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Speaker 3: with Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo, who was asked

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Speaker 3: about a G League player signing with a college program.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to get myself in trouble.

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Speaker 3: But I.

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Speaker 7: Listen to people talk how kids changed. Kids aren't the problem,

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Speaker 7: We're the problem. This was sprung on us again yesterday,

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Speaker 7: where a guy can be in the G League for

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Speaker 7: two or three years and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 7: he's eligible. Most of my people knew nothing about it.

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Speaker 7: I don't think our commissioner. I mean, I am not

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Speaker 7: real excited about the NCAA or whoever's making these decisions

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Speaker 7: without talking to us, just letting it go because they're

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Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. Okay, So just

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Speaker 1: so we're aware, last year mid season I legally brought

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Speaker 1: over a professional player from Israel and he was on

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Speaker 1: my team, first ever mid season free agent acquisition of

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Speaker 1: its kind. And so people will say, hey, what's the

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Speaker 1: difference between a twenty one year old Israeli, which is

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Speaker 1: we did last years he was twenty three, and a

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Speaker 1: twenty one year old American who's played three years in

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Speaker 1: made it work is the way that foreign players make

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Speaker 1: it work, which is they had to show that the

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Speaker 1: money that he received only covered his expenses and anything

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Speaker 1: beyond that he probably had to pay back, right, And

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Speaker 1: the argument is like, wait, we're really We're gonna not

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Speaker 1: let a kid play because he was getting paid to

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Speaker 1: play when they're all getting paid to play in college.

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Speaker 1: That hypocrisy. On the other hand, the difference is he

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Speaker 1: knowingly made this decision three years ago and had a

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Speaker 1: choice of college or professional. He chose professional. Once you

652
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Speaker 1: choose professional, you can't go back, as opposed to players

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Speaker 1: overseas where there is no collegiate system. You play junior team,

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Speaker 1: then you play in the big boys, and you know

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Speaker 1: you'd likely collect money as well. So I actually agree

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Speaker 1: with tom Izzo, even though look, I mean, we're gonna

657
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Speaker 1: try and get guys G League, you know, and is

658
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Speaker 1: done like the transfer portal, He's taking a couple of

659
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Speaker 1: transfers as well, because you have to in order to survive.

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Speaker 1: But he's right, London Johnson made the decision over three

661
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Speaker 1: years ago to not go to college, to go to

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Speaker 1: the G League, ignite, and he failed in his quest

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Speaker 1: to become an NBA player. He failed in his quest

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Speaker 1: to become an overseas player. He's not so he's now

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Speaker 1: going back to college. It used to be you tried it,

666
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Speaker 1: you can't go back. Now you can. It's a very

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Speaker 1: very murky path for the NCAA, and I know they're

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Speaker 1: only doing this because they're scared to get suited.

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Speaker 3: It offends so much of my sensibilities. Not the actual topic, thug,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know what to think. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's right or wrong. Like even if college basketball was

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Speaker 3: under the old way, and let's say a kid went

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Speaker 3: to the G League and spent a year and just

674
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Speaker 3: it was not working out for him and says I

675
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Speaker 3: need the structure of college because I'm still nineteen years old,

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Speaker 3: Like that's he would be more of a reason, which

677
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: back then there would have been no leeway whatsoever. He

678
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: would not have been able to play. Or I would say, well,

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Speaker 3: let's help the kid out. You know, at eighteen, he

680
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: made a bad decision. Let's try to help him in

681
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Speaker 3: a certain way. I this whole thing is just crazy

682
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Speaker 3: to me because I would think the same thing that

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Speaker 3: maybe this this and I call him a kid at

684
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Speaker 3: twenty years old but needs some sort of structure. But

685
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Speaker 3: that's not what it's about at all. It's just about

686
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: winning basketball games. Yeah, So yeah, it's it's Yes, it

687
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: messes with my head.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And and I don't really blame Louisville, right, They're

689
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: just like they're just trying to win games. This is

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00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: at some point and this is no different than there's

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Speaker 1: there's a kid tying Grant Foster, who's a I don't

692
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Speaker 1: know him personally, I know other people that know him.

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Speaker 1: He's a great young man. He's got an eligibility hearing,

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Speaker 1: like an appeal hearing today. So he had a heart problem,

695
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: missed most of two years of college. So you'll see

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Speaker 1: social media like, oh he only played three years. He

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Speaker 1: missed its. He played two years of junior college two thousand,

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Speaker 1: eighteen twenty nineteen twenty, nineteen twenty twenty. Like he's been

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Speaker 1: in college for eight years, seven years. He's played five

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Speaker 1: full seasons, had two seasons where he had to sit

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Speaker 1: because of his heart problem. Like, dude, at some point

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Speaker 1: we got to go like, hey, or it's just as

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Speaker 1: long as you're a college student, you can play. There

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Speaker 1: really can't be any in between. And if so, it's

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Speaker 1: what Izzo went on to say, which is, what do

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Speaker 1: you do with high school kids? It's a really a

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Speaker 1: hard one. Like in Wisconsin, none of these players are holdbacks.

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Speaker 1: So I have a freshman. His name's Keegan ben Callenberg.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited to coach him. We're probably gonna red

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Speaker 1: shirt him, not because he's not, but he's like, he's eighteen,

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Speaker 1: I got, I got twenty three, twenty three, twenty three,

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Speaker 1: twenty three, I got old men. And it's his body's

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Speaker 1: not there yet. So yeah, I mean we're backlogging junior colleges,

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Speaker 1: prep schools with high school kids because everybody's finding extra

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Speaker 1: years of eligibility and.

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Speaker 3: Just for clarity of the NCAA also a pre the

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: player for Santa Clara that once played in the G League.

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Speaker 3: Last month they cleared him to be able to play

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Speaker 3: for the Broncos. So this Louisville player, a London Johnson,

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Speaker 3: not the not the first player to you know, to

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Speaker 3: have this jump from the G league to the college game.

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Speaker 2: Dan, I believe the first one. The first name of

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Speaker 2: the first guy to do this was Van Wilder. Oh right,

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Speaker 2: he did that a long time ago.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: NFL is moving the Pro Bowl games to the Tuesday

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Speaker 3: out of super Bowl week, so the Super Bowl game

728
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Speaker 3: is on February eighth. The Pro Bowl will take place Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: February third, and Doug NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, so they

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Speaker 3: have no plans to make any changes to the halftime show.

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Speaker 3: Bad Bunny will be the main draw in. Commander's Quarterback

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Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels ruled out of their game in Kansas City

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Speaker 3: on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Hey can I can? I can Marcus Mario to start?

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Speaker 1: What was the what's the old singer? Who Mike Johnson?

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Speaker 1: The congressional guys? How is Lee Greenwood? He really said

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Speaker 1: Lee Greenwood should do it the halftime show? He really

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Speaker 1: said that. You know what Roger Goodell said to that.

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Speaker 1: And that's the press. Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox

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