WEBVTT - "Go Get 'Em, Sun."

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<v Speaker 1>This is Chase Utley and this is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd's Lucky Wednesday, August twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we doing, Ruben? You're showing a uh I'm

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<v Speaker 1>teasing your tea knockoff. You're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>We got him coming. It's a knockoff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the uhmer is coming. It's the bullpen cart that

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<v Speaker 3>used to meet tug At when you give you his.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacket, that's all right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they had the bullpen carts still, just to

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<v Speaker 1>just to roll it out for old times sake.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I do love that cart. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing. I think they might have one in

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<v Speaker 2>the ballpark somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dig that. They gotta dig that thing out, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday nights when they were in the record.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For those listening in their car, Ruben's got a Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>Show bullpen cart t shirt on to knockoff without us

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Without us, And it's always better when we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the cart driving at great point, Jimmy, are you

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<v Speaker 1>driving that cart? You're on the left hand side.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm driving with my foot.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the fact that you're hanging out to

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<v Speaker 2>the side though, j Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there before, hanging out of a golf cart.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, guys. The last couple of games for

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies pretty pretty good. Bryce Harper hits that walk

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<v Speaker 1>off hit on Monday night. Aaron Nola just dials it

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<v Speaker 1>up on Tuesday night. Last night, Nick Castianis hits a

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<v Speaker 1>big home run, three run home run on Tuesday. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we feeling about how they've been playing the last four game,

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<v Speaker 1>they won four in a row. They can sweep tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>get the first five game winning streak since May, seems

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<v Speaker 1>like again, Jim, we talked about this the other day, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of doom and gloom last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit different vibe going on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a lot of doom and gloom, and

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<v Speaker 3>some people scoffed at me when I said my panic

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<v Speaker 3>meter was at one point five when I take my pulse.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did kill you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know, no panic that. I just looked

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<v Speaker 3>at the standings. Guess what, They're tied for the best

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<v Speaker 3>record in baseball again. They've won four in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>The offenses awakened just enough, just enough. The starting pitching

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<v Speaker 3>has been very good the last turn through, maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>last two turns turn plus, they've hit some bombs. They

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<v Speaker 3>are much better team when the ball ends over the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can say that about pretty much every team

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<v Speaker 3>because home runs are big, and that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the way that the game has played today. But getting

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<v Speaker 3>on base a little bit more, you still gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>care of those advantage of those opportunities that call for

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<v Speaker 3>some good situational hitting. But good teams will do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, they're bashing the ball just enough. Here.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a couple of eleven run games in Kansas

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<v Speaker 3>City last night. You mentioned Castianus with that three run

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<v Speaker 3>home run, very very clutched, very timely. He sniffed out

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<v Speaker 3>that breaking ball. It was a twelve sixer. It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>break off the plate to kind of gives him trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>He sniffed it out and he drove it into the seats.

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<v Speaker 3>So and Aaron Nola just made it all stand up.

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<v Speaker 3>He he has been brilliant, you know his last three

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<v Speaker 3>or four, you know, last like twenty four innings. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's given up like four in runs. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of things are coming together at the

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<v Speaker 3>right time. Now with thirty games left, we're constantly asked,

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<v Speaker 3>are they back. I'm not going there. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say they're back to me. They're back when they're when

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<v Speaker 3>they're on the parade, you know, float down Broad Street,

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<v Speaker 3>That's when they're back, because that's what this is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, they're playing bad at a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>They've won two series in a row. That's been a

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<v Speaker 3>magic recipe for them winning series, and they've they've taken

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<v Speaker 3>care of the Houston Astros here taking the first two.

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<v Speaker 3>And wouldn't it be something if Taiwan Walker went out

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<v Speaker 3>there later on today and had one of had it,

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<v Speaker 3>had his best start of the season and helped them

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<v Speaker 3>lock down a sweep going into the final month, that

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<v Speaker 3>would be that would be something to see. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is actually a fascinating day, you know, this Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>going for the sweep against Houston with your weak link

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<v Speaker 3>on the mound, a guy who's really struggled, the guy

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's clamoring to, you know, bounce him out of here,

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<v Speaker 3>and let's let's see what happens. I think it has

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to be some very interesting theater ninety seven degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing that's back. Summer's back ninety seven today

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<v Speaker 3>Taiwan Walker on the mound, Ruben Tomorrow, sweat and bullets

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<v Speaker 3>in that beautiful jacket last night, Ruber. I loved that jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the love. You will make great points. I

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<v Speaker 2>think back right now to a couple of different things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>I think back to what Chase Utley said when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in La Listen, this team's got to go through

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<v Speaker 2>a tough time and they got to go through some

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<v Speaker 2>adversity and they got to bounce back and be playing

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<v Speaker 2>well when it's time to play well. And he may

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<v Speaker 2>be a soothsayer, because it looks like that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>thing is happening right now. I couldn't for the life

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<v Speaker 2>of me. People were asking me the same thing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on with the Phillies? What is going on? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think and as I think about it now, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's about the starting pitching, and it's about and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it starts, and for me, that's where it ends.

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<v Speaker 2>When the starting pitching is going well, which was and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the best in all of baseball in the

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<v Speaker 2>first two months of the season. All of baseball. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle was the only other team that was as good

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe to touch better. But Seattle had no offense

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<v Speaker 2>at all, and they still don't have any offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>they still have pretty good pitching. So they're sort of

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<v Speaker 2>in the race. The Phillies. They're pitching rotation. Suarez going down,

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<v Speaker 2>that was huge, and I back now about Suarez coming

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<v Speaker 2>back and pitching in Kansas City and pitching the way

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<v Speaker 2>he did, and that was the start of this role

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<v Speaker 2>they got going. And I think that that in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways, it's just weird. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's mental. I don't know if it's physical. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be a combination of the two. I think that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that sort of picked this team back up.

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<v Speaker 2>He came out and pitched his ass off, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was ranger Suarez of old and it started that turn

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<v Speaker 2>in the rotation that made it. You know, then you

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<v Speaker 2>got Suarez and Wheeler and Nola, and you know, Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez is pitching his tail off as well. Obviously, Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker struggling and not pitching all that well, but having

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<v Speaker 2>those four guys setting it up for those four guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what Rob Thomas has been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all season long. Get those guys healthy, make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>take care of give him an extra day when they

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<v Speaker 2>need it, you know, kind of you know, take a

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<v Speaker 2>long time to get Suarez back after those back spasms

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<v Speaker 2>took their time. Hopefully he's going to be fine and healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one of the biggest reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>these guys are short of back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then Jim, like you said, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>guy pop on every once in a while and that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cassianis last night you mentioned him. He gets a

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<v Speaker 1>first pitch fastball and he takes it, and after the

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<v Speaker 1>game he goes, yeah, I was kind of kicking myself

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't see any fastballs. In fact, he sees

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<v Speaker 1>fewer fastballs than any any hitter in baseball, you know, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just breaking balls and off speed stuff. So then

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<v Speaker 1>he is going, Okay, now, I'm that's probably the only

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<v Speaker 1>fastball I'm going to get in this at bat. So

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<v Speaker 1>he sits breaking ball and Justin Verlander throws him an No.

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<v Speaker 1>One breaking ball, hanger right over the middle, and he

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<v Speaker 1>crushes it. And it was interesting. After the game, Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Verlander said, you know what, against my I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>he was sitting spin. So I threw him a first

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<v Speaker 1>pitch passball, and then against my best instincts, I should

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<v Speaker 1>have thrown him another fastball, but I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw him a breaking ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, and I just had to basically said, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had a bad feeling about him. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could go back, because there's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. He's like, you'll have to go ask Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>but I bet you he is sitting something soft on

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<v Speaker 1>that old one pitch, And sure enough he was, because

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I knew I was going to get something

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<v Speaker 1>with some spin on it. But he's been We talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about him. He's been really good over the

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<v Speaker 1>last really since mid May. I think he's forty first

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<v Speaker 1>in OPS and baseball out of like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three failures, so he's top thirty percent in baseball

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of OPS. He's really been putting together. He's

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<v Speaker 1>now hitting fifth. He talked, we talked about us, remember

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<v Speaker 1>this earlier in the season, he was kind of complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about how he's hitting too low in the lineup. He

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<v Speaker 1>said last night, He's like, I love I'm basically a

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<v Speaker 1>glory or batting practice hitter. I swing at everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>I swing hard, and uh so it helps me when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the middle of the lineup. Rob Thomas said,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to earn that spot, though, and he's earned it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's earned a spot. You know, you don't just get

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<v Speaker 1>to hit fifth just because you like to swing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and you swing hard. You have to actually produce,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's produced lately. So now he's been hitting fourth

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<v Speaker 1>fifth the last twelve thirteen games.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim, I got to give it. I gotta get some

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<v Speaker 2>love for them, because you talked about it from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning about how the back of the baseball football card matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and you talked about you know, you talked about Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Castianos a lot during the early part of the season

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<v Speaker 2>if everybody wanted a Cana guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just felt like, you don't put up all

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<v Speaker 3>those good seasons and all those doubles and all that

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<v Speaker 3>slug by accident. And he's not old, but he is streaky,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just thought he was going through a bad streak,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought we were going to see it almost

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<v Speaker 3>like an equally good streak at some point. We have

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<v Speaker 3>been very very important player throughout that you know, two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half month scuffle that this team has had,

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<v Speaker 3>helping them stay afloat with those occasional bolts, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bolts of lightning to the gap here and there. So

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<v Speaker 3>that breaking ball and he hit from Verland, it was

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect shape for him. If it was something off

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<v Speaker 3>the plate, those are the ones that give him trouble,

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<v Speaker 3>but just a great piece of reaction reaction hitting, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was a difference maker in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>Fascinating to hear, you know, how Verlander's mind was working there.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, really, he's a he's he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 3>cerebral picture, he's a veteran picture. He's not afraid to,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, let you in on what he's thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>And that creates a really interesting storyline for people who

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<v Speaker 3>love the game and interested in the game that byplay

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<v Speaker 3>between the hitter and the picture of what they're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really enjoyed reading about that today and your

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<v Speaker 3>story Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was you kind of hear those things that

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of nerd out as a as a baseball fan,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, he's like, you know, he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the chess match between hitter and pitcher, and and sure

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<v Speaker 1>enough that's what Nick was thinking. And sure enough, vier

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<v Speaker 1>line is up there, going maybe I should be throwing

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<v Speaker 1>him a fastball here, hanger gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the other part of that is another fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>part of it, and you mentioned it and talked a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about it, was how Castiano's talked about not

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of protection when he's deep in the lineup. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>when he's deep in the lineup, he knows that he

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<v Speaker 2>can walk, they can walk him and not feel fear,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Johann Rojas's of the world and the

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<v Speaker 2>other guys behind him. But when he's in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the lineup, you know, he's got a little protection

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, whoever it is, Scott or JT or

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<v Speaker 2>whoever is hitting behind him, so that they it it

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<v Speaker 2>gives the picture a little bit more angst to not

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<v Speaker 2>walk the guy and have to sort of challenge him,

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<v Speaker 2>which means he gets more pitches to hit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a whole and that's that's why roster construction and

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<v Speaker 2>lineup construction can't be all about the analytics. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a subtle piece of what's going on here about protection

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<v Speaker 2>and left right and you know, forcing the opponent to

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<v Speaker 2>do certain things that they might not want to do

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<v Speaker 2>because of the construction of the lineup. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>one big thing that Charlie talks about that every manager

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<v Speaker 2>really talks about. But you can't just have an analytics

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<v Speaker 2>guy just because this guy's got X Y numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>wobah's and all types of stuff. It's about the subtleties

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<v Speaker 2>of what's going on in the lineup versus that picture

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<v Speaker 2>the bullpen, how they will attack them. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>lineup means something, man, it really does and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>and that's part of the subtlety that creates and and

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<v Speaker 2>makes what good what you know, good managers are. I

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<v Speaker 2>think managers do two things, three things. They run the bullpens,

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<v Speaker 2>they construct their lineups or should they know, shouldn't come

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<v Speaker 2>from above, but they do a lot of in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of places, and they have to manage the clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are the three biggest things I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the manager do. Managers do And if you can do

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<v Speaker 2>those well, you can have a lot of success, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think Rob Thompson does a heck of a job

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<v Speaker 2>of it myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have to. I'm sorry, they have to. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned manage the clubhouse, build trust, communicate and when

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Thompson says to Nick Castianos, Nick, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>you right in the middle of that lineup. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be hitting fifth, but you got to earn it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he goes out and hits well and he learns it.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to put him there, and that's how you

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<v Speaker 3>build a great relationship. And that's how player bustes asked

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<v Speaker 3>for the manager, and that's how players bust their ask

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<v Speaker 3>the manager. I agree with you on all that other stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen and the lineup, but there's a chemistry between

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<v Speaker 3>good manager and players and performance and the way your

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<v Speaker 3>commune to get it with them. And I think Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>is very good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Active and we are back, gentlemen. We put out a

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<v Speaker 1>tweet last night for questions listener for your questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's taken off because we got a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of questions yesterday. Like, we got so many questions we

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<v Speaker 1>won't even get to you know, a third of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I mean on Instagram and on x

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<v Speaker 1>AKA the or I should say they're formally known as Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, let's let's jump into these. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch and let's start with the general themed big picture question.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something I think was I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy asked it, but this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>was asked a few weeks ago. The Phillies seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be hurting me less. Now do you think they'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt me less into the postseason? This is for

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<v Speaker 1>Michael on x Remember we got one like that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why why do they want to hurt me so much?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>When will the ping go away?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Elizabeth, Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 1>So what do we think? Well, Rubin, you said the

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitching. If the starting pitching keeps going like this,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be They're gonna be in games every night.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any question that if if now

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers back on track and these guys remain healthy, the

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<v Speaker 2>four big four guys, because they're they're really they're the

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<v Speaker 2>crux of what they what this team is built around.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know they spend a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>on offense, but the reality of it is I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll never stop thinking this. When you have great

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<v Speaker 2>starting pitching, man, you've got a chance to win every

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<v Speaker 2>single night. It's as simple as that. And why the

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<v Speaker 2>game got away from this, I don't know. If I

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<v Speaker 2>was an executive in this day and age, I would

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the same themes. When everybody's going left,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going right and going back to what's what means something,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's starting pitching. If they're healthy, they'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll be really, really good in the postseason. I

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<v Speaker 2>know they have to get big hits, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>to make adjustments to teams that have good plans and

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<v Speaker 2>execute those plans. But if they get good starting pitching,

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<v Speaker 2>they got a chance every single day.

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<v Speaker 3>There still might be nights when the pain rears its

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<v Speaker 3>ugly head when they're chasing and swinging from their heels

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<v Speaker 3>and having a night like they had in Game six

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<v Speaker 3>and seven last year. Unfortunately, it's kind of in their

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<v Speaker 3>DNA that stuff can pump up. But I do think

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<v Speaker 3>when they're going good, they can put together lengthy stretches

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<v Speaker 3>where they avoid that stuff and seem to be in

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<v Speaker 3>one right now. Bomb chasing a little bit, you'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to see that him get dialed in because he's typically

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<v Speaker 3>a very selective hitter. But right now the pain is subsiding.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will remind you of that Bart Giamatti quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball is designed to break your heart. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's a tough, tough game and a tough tough business

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<v Speaker 3>and only one team at the end is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be smiling on. So you got to get into October,

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<v Speaker 3>which they will, and then you got to play good baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>take care of opportunities, don't make errors, don't give up

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<v Speaker 3>extra base runners, extra bases, and put it all together.

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<v Speaker 3>This team is very capable of doing that. I personally

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to see how they perform in the month

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<v Speaker 3>of October.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, you you mentioned Alec Boom. That was the question

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<v Speaker 1>that British Philly on X one S wanted to asked

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on with Boem? Weird body language gone

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<v Speaker 1>from constant RBIs to swinging at everything. Any inside information

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<v Speaker 1>from coach Rubin on a player showing body language like

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<v Speaker 1>Boom has been. I mean that has jumped out the

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<v Speaker 1>last few games, and I know he has talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that in the past, like trying to control his emotions

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<v Speaker 1>on the field and not having such bad but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean slamming the helmet, flinging his bat. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>frustration from him over the last six games, spatting one

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three ninety two ops, three grounded into double plays,

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<v Speaker 1>three double place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think he's starting to feel it. He

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<v Speaker 2>had such a great start to the season, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are human beings, and now he started going into

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<v Speaker 2>one of those funks. For a while, I mean for

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<v Speaker 2>almost a month he didn't have an RBI. It was bizarre,

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<v Speaker 2>and part of it was because guys in front of

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<v Speaker 2>him were really not getting on. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff going on as far as the lineup construction.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Schwarber and Turner were struggling. They weren't really

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot, and so even Harper was not as

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamic clearly, and his opportunities did not present themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he struggled in those opportunities, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it sort of snowballed on him a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 2>over the last a week or so, I see him

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<v Speaker 2>sort of getting out of his comfort zone. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that uses the whole field. He swings the bat

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<v Speaker 2>on pitches that are in the strike zone. Typically, I

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<v Speaker 2>see him just trying to press a little bit and

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<v Speaker 2>do a little bit much. Maybe he's starting to think

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<v Speaker 2>about arbitration and money and contracts and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't been locked up. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that about him. I don't but if I'm if i'm him,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm in his shoes, I start thinking about those

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<v Speaker 2>things like, oh my god, if I get another ninety

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<v Speaker 2>or one hundred, you know, another one hundred and ten

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.679
<v Speaker 2>RBI season or whatever the case may be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I may put myself in a position to make a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of money. I don't know if those things are

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<v Speaker 2>going through his head. I don't know if he's just pressing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's getting out of his comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do see some differences in him. I think

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<v Speaker 2>fortunately he hasn't really taken it. I don't think to

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<v Speaker 2>the field, which is a you know, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>very it's something where he's showing to his maturity. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he'll be back. He's one of the most talented

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<v Speaker 2>hitters they have, and I mean as far as just

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<v Speaker 2>utilizing the whole field and that kind of stuff, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be back. He just needs to take

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<v Speaker 2>a breather, you know, relax a little bit, and go

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<v Speaker 2>with the lessers more program, which is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Manual theory. Less is more, let the pitcher come

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and then, you know, then take care of

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<v Speaker 2>the damage.

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<v Speaker 3>I see him. He's an emotional guy. You know. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind a little emotion, a little snap down, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I probably want to do it up in

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<v Speaker 3>the tunnel where nobody can see it, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it shows your care. But I just think he's reacting

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment and in the instant to the result

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<v Speaker 3>of that particular at bat. And I would offer last night,

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<v Speaker 3>he has that bloop hit later on in the game

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<v Speaker 3>where they all come together in the outfield and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ringling brothers and he's standing on second base and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, big smile, you know, big smile. And

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<v Speaker 3>so there was his reaction. He didn't hit the ball well,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a reaction based on the result. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's disappointment coming out and at the

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<v Speaker 3>root of it, it's like, I know I'm better than this,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just disappointment, and everybody handles it a little differently.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be careful to squeal shit because I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>who he is. But I think in their private conversations,

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Thompson Kevin Long can urge him. You're a good player,

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<v Speaker 3>You're good hitter. We're here. A lot of the reason

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 3>we're here is because of you. Don't get too frustrated.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to happen for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop breaking helmets.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever heard a story about at Lee was a serial, quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>stealthy helmet breaker, and nobody knows like because he never

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<v Speaker 3>would do it out in public, out on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>He's smart, he's smart about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Snaps he would snap up up up up in the

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<v Speaker 3>tunnel where nobody could see it. And I feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>telling this because I wrote the story years ago. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was one season he broke like seven helmets and

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<v Speaker 3>Phil Sheridan, the equipment man, great equipment man with the

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<v Speaker 3>Philly's been there forever and does great job. Phil Sheridan

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<v Speaker 3>went up to him and said, like in September, said,

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<v Speaker 3>hey man, you got to cool it. This is my

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<v Speaker 3>last helmet. This is the last helmet I got for

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 3>you in your your size or whatever, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta control your snaps. A little bit, so guys care

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<v Speaker 3>they blow off steam. I just think people are like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, is he is he burying himself? Is

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<v Speaker 3>he quitting on himself when it happens out on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>But so just bring it inside where nobody can see it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when you retire, we'll tell all the stories

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<v Speaker 3>about the helmet you broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep in mind, you know, like I wonder, do

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<v Speaker 1>you does a player finally start getting charged like and

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that at one point is day they go all right, Chase,

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>we gotta start charging you for these helmets. I mean,

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.439
<v Speaker 1>this is getting ridiculous, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what a helmet costs, but it's over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars, I bet for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>When I played. When I played, they probably would charge,

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<v Speaker 2>would have charged. Yeah, I think it broke a couple,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't give me very couple of them. I

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<v Speaker 2>had reason to break a lot of them because I

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<v Speaker 2>made a ton of outs.

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<v Speaker 3>But they don't. They don't charge for anything anymore. When

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I started coming, when I started covering baseball, Todd, I

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 3>remember covering Triple A baseball and guy in Patucket where

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 3>it was cold in April, and guys were like beg

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 3>borrowing and stealing to get sleeves, you know, cold weather sleeves.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 3>They had to buy their own undershirts. Do you remember

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 3>those days, Ribbon?

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Do I remember those days? Come on, dude, I

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 2>mean we were making like three dollars an hour. I

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 2>worked it out to like fifty cents an hour with

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>all the hours we put in, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they get everything they need, tons.

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<v Speaker 2>Of It's a different world now, man. These guys are

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<v Speaker 2>living a life of luxury now in the Minor Lakes.

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jose Alvarado question, is there any news on Jose Alvarado?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think whatever issue is he is he has

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<v Speaker 1>is affecting his pitching. That's from bow ninety two to

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>ninety two on Instagram. The only thing I can say

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>is that, you know. Rob Thompson says he does not

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>know when he will be back. For those who don't know,

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Jose Jose Alvarad has been placed on the restricted list

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>left the team for personal matter. Rob Thompson says he

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<v Speaker 1>does not know when he will be back, but he

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>does expect him back this season. I spoke to somebody

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>else yesterday saying they're trying to you know, take care.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're they're they're they're expecting that he will

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<v Speaker 1>be back this season, hopefully sooner rather than later. But

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>there's only thirty some games left. So to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys have any thoughts on how they're going

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to handle his absence. I know he's been super inconsistent,

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>but he's been their best pitcher against left handed hitting

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like left these are hitting one thirty four hundred ohps

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>against them against him, how do they handle that? Rob

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Thompson said, Tanner Banks and Ryan Kirkering. But Ryan Kirkering

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>has been it's been okay against left these. He hasn't

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>been great, but that's a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, to me, it's to me, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>about guys just stepping up, stepping forward. I mean, he

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>had been struggling. My biggest concern is for the guy.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what's going on with him. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea. I tried to poke around to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reality of it is, I have no idea

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>what it is. I just hope he's fine, and I

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 2>just hope the man's okay because I have a great

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 2>deal of respect and I love the guy. He's a

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>fantastic teammate. He's important in that bullpen, if not just

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>for his presence, and he's an outstanding pitcher when he's on.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's really really good, and I just hope

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 2>he's okay.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, really good man, good hearted guy, good

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>in the clubhouse, big smile, loves everybody, so you know,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 3>all the best to him. The recipe might be what

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 3>they got last night, try to get seven good ones

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 3>from the I mean, you've rested the rotation periodically throughout

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the season because you know you want to play big

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 3>games in September and October. If you could get seven

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 3>and shorten the from your starter, shortened the billpen a

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 3>little bit, I think that might be a really good

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>recipe going forward. We see a lot of times in

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>the postseason bullpen's rain, bullpen's rule the day, But like

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>pitching backward a little bit, I think starting pitching could

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 3>rule this day for the Phillies down to stretch and

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 3>into October, trying to get seven, shorten up your bullpen

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and see what happens.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's just say, well, do you guys see that

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>stack that they have won thirty in a row? Thirty

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>games in a row, when the pitchers could go on

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>seven seven innings in the very first I think it

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>was the very first game of the season. They didn't

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>win the first game of the season. I think somebody

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>won seven innings. Since then, thirty straight games of wins,

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty and one. It's insane. Yeah, that's how important going

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>seven innings is. I mean, look at that. I mean

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 2>it's insane. Thirty and one. That's that. That is a

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 2>big number. That's why it's so important to get length

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>out of your starters. People have to remember that. Somebody

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and some executive has to understand that number because it

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't lie.

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Dave Debrowski likes that. I know that. Damn he's about they.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Get because you know baseball.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dave does like the old school nature of this

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>rotation and throwing guys out there for six seven innings,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>seven innings. I've preferred a couple questions on September call ups.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>September call ups question mark. That's from weight man Stats

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. Is there anyone at Lehigh Valley that could

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>not be on the average fans radar that could get

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a call up in September? That's from Dave Hyms on

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>x I don't know if there's anybody that's not on

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the radar that could possibly get called up. I don't

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>think there's an O Ryan Kirkering down there that that's

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>going to come up in September and help. I think

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it might be Cody Clemens. Cody Clemens I think probably

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>should come up. I guess you could go third catcher.

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you need it. I don't know

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>if you need a third catcher with only two now,

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>there's only two rosters, two spots that get added to

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the roster in September. So maybe Cody Clemens, he's deserved,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's earned it, and then you have Tyler Phillips could

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>come up, Michael Rutgers on the forty men roster. Tyler

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert who is just up here, could come up at

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>some point. I don't know what they're going to do

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>with the pitching, if they're going to go for a

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>real length guy or a shorter, you know, more short

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>reliever type of guy. But but nothing really super exciting

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>for the fans. I don't think, you know, there's not

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Justin Crawford's not coming up in September.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I think you might want a little bit of length

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in the picture capability of giving you a little length,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>because you still might have to nurse this Taiwan Walker

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>thing through the final I mean a month of the season.

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>He'll start on Wednesday, and then after that what he'll

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 3>have five or six that spot will have five or six.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 3>So you might have to do a lot of Nixon

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 3>and Match to get through that. So that might you

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 3>might want to prioritize multi innings. As far as the catcher,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>that's an interesting one. We all love Marshan. I think

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>it was a little banged up recently, but you know,

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that you have to carry its third

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 3>catcher because you can still make moves. If somebody goes down,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 3>you can get them on the roster the next day, right.

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See, that's the beauty of what MLB has done.

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I started thinking about the limitations that they

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>put on. Now just two guys brought up, So now

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>you have a roster of twenty eight that you can maneuver.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>But you can maneuver it because if you have flexibility

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and options for your players. The teams now are playing

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 2>like the Triple A season is now being pushed all

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>the way down to almost lined up to the major

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>league season now so that those guys continue to play.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And if you want to make like as if you

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>were in the normal season, you want to make roster

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>moves now back in the day, that season ended on

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.719
<v Speaker 2>September second or third, and now you had to have

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.719
<v Speaker 2>certain guys like we would take guys and send them

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>to Clearwater and say, okay, here's ten guys that might

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 2>get a chance to play at some point if you

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>don't get brought up to the big leagues and just

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>be ready, and then you can expand your roster to

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>as many as you wanted, but you can still have

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>more guys ready. Now you can have guys actually playing

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>in baseball games in Triple A and Double A and

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>allow them to and and you know, if you have

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>roster flexibility, that's why it's important to have that and

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>move guys back and forth. Like a pitcher can throw

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.479
<v Speaker 2>one day, he can get sent down and you know,

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>get sent down and be replaced. So I think it

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just a gain again, it's a it's a way

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to maneuver. I think a lot of it will depend

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>on what's going on with Alvarado two, whether you want

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>another left hander in there, or whether you know, but

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>you can you have some flexibility of maneuver around if

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>you have options on these guys.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Jim, you mentioned Taiwan Walker question. Of course, it's got

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a question about timeline Walker. Where the realistic

0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>options for Walker DFA trade that's from anonymous us on Instagram.

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>What do we think it's gonna Taiwan Walker tonight? He

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>pitches Wednesday night, they can go for the sweep. It's

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be a crazy atmosphere because fans are starting

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to get excited again. So if Taiwan Walker goes out

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and he lays an egg in their first couple innings,

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the booze are going to rain down upon him with

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>oh yes, with great fury. Uh I might I have

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>my Phillies Beat newsletter is going to come out later today.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I had somebody break down a lot of the stats

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>on Taiwan Walker because the Phillies keeps saying they're encouraged.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Taiwan keeps saying it's going to be coming. But the

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>facts are the facts, and he'll probably pitch well tonight

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm writing this. Chase rate on his splitter

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>by season is dropped each year over the past three years.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>It's way down the whiff rate, so that's swing and

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 1>miss on his splitter way down. It's twenty nine sixteen

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>point eight percent this season. Uh So, now when he's

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>fallen behind the count, he's getting Now when he comes

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in the zone, you guys know it, he's getting absolutely crushed.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>He's last in baseball in barrel percentage. That's his balls,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, hit certain exsit velocity, line drives last, and

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>average exivelosity ninety two point one last, and hard hit

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>percentage fifty. When he's when he's hitters are ahead in

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the counter batting three point fifty three with a one

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>point I ops against him. So not a lot of

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>there's not really any signs. There's not a lot of positivity.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of signs of these boy he

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>could just this is just coming along and you know

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he's all he's just right there. I mean, he's really

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just getting pulverized out there. So I don't know what

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the answer is. I do you guys think he's gonna

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>get dfaide this season? Do you think he could get

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>dfaid this season? That's a lot of money to eat, right,

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 3>It's a desperate for the roster spot. But I would

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 3>be surprised to see him back next year. Next year,

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know how they're gonna handle it in

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the short term. Ruben, You've had to make these decisions.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough one man. Third eight million dollars is

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a big, big nut. I mean, that's a lot of money.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 2>And so I know that Middleton doesn't I mean he

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>cares about money. I mean everybody cares about the money.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean when especially when you're when you're having to

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 2>dole out those types of dollars for an unproductive player.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>But I mean in the past, you know, we've we've

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>had to make some tough decisions. You know, he's providing

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>some depth right now because he is a starting pitcher

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and they need somebody to eat some innings.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I know, Alert has pitched pretty darn well at times,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and Phillips can fill mix in, and there might be

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>some other guys that you can throw in the mix,

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>but right now, he is a starting pitcher and they

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>need some innings to be eaten up, and he needs

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 2>somebody to protect the other four guys in that rotation

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>and and the bullpen. Now, if he can't, if the

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>man is throwing two or three and that's it. They

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>may end up going to like a piggyback situation. Who

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>knows where they say, Listen, I'm going to get him

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>for two or three innings and I'm going to bring

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, a long guy in and go from there.

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if you can necessarily do

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>that when you're going to a six man rotation right now.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure about all the plans that are

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be happening over the course of September, but

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 2>he certainly put them in a tough position. If he

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 2>was pitching, better to be a much easy position to say, man,

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>we're just going to give you the baseball, but you

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 2>just cannot continue to get hammered and get knocked out

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>after three innings, because it's just the domino effect on

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the on the bullpen and the rest of the U

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the club is just too great.

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Start by start basis. Right now, you know, he's gonna

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 3>have to earn his innings, you know, five days later

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 3>every time he goes out there, and you know, I

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know if they can go through another season of

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>this unless there's some dramatic improvement and I'm not sure

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 3>that's in the cards at this age, and he's apparently

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 3>pitching healthy, so it's a it's a tough call. I mean,

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>all that really matters, though, is right now, in the

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>next thirty days, and he's going to get the ball

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday, and he needs to give them just take

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 3>five innings, you know, give me five innings and and

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.439
<v Speaker 3>we'll deal with the five days later, five days later.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 2>And I just I just don't know if he can

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>throw it with people ask can throw out of the pen.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this guy, I don't think so. I

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's going to elevate his fastball. I don't

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 2>think that, you know. I think he's giving it all

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>he's got right now, and and I think this is

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>where he's maxed out.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you have any trade value in the

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 3>off season if you ate a whole bunch. I think

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 3>that's iffy.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's possible, but you have to

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>eat like almost the entire contract, I mean everybody's I

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>mean Todd gave the numbers. I mean, if you're looking

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 2>at the numbers, you're just hoping that the guy bounces back.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>In some way, shape or form, and you don't really

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>want to pay much for the guy.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 3>And if if there's a chance they're going to let

0:36:58.320 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>him go and you can get him from the minimum,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>why would to give up a player?

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, No doubt exactly.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Uh see, when I don't know, if there's ruben, you

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>might have a good story on this all. I'll ask

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you this one. When trading a player for cash considerations,

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>what is the lowest amount that a player has been

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>traded for? This is from your Phillies educator on X.

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>You remember one dollar and.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I think I think the max is one hundred grand.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, it has to be approved or yet,

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>although you can you can send the player and you know,

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>pay down. I mean it also has to be approved

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>by by the commissioner's office. Sure, so you can move

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>a player and pay him down, but I think I

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>think the minimum. I think I may have traded a

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 2>guy for a buck or something like that.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I remember a trade for zero dollars.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Who's that.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>They had a minor league pitcher and they traded him

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 3>to the Anaheim Angels for zero.

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 2>That gave well the minor leagues.

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Sort of transferred his contract okay, okay, today is Jim

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Tomey's birthday. I guess this is maybe sent yesterday, and

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Big Jim is known for being one of the nicest

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>players in MLB history. Who are some of the nicest

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 1>guys you have dealt with? Also, any jerks you wish

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to dump dirt on? That's some steampunk Philly Uh you

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>know what. So I'm sure you guys get this too, right,

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, other than like the day to day questions

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 1>of why is this guy struggling? Why is that guy's?

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>The thing I get asked the most is who's what

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>are guys like in the clubhouse? Who do you like?

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Who do who don't you like? Who's the biggest jerk

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse? I'm not going to say who the

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>biggest jerks are, but uh, there's been a lot of

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>really great guys.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Because that's because you'll lose them. You can't I mean, yeah, professionally,

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 2>you can't really name those guys. Yeah, for your sake

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 2>and for my sake. I mean, uh, the ones in

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the past, you can, you can toss them out there

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but but typically, you know, it's very

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>difficult for writers to have to dump on guys, because

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>then they don't have any respect from from the guy

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 2>when they want to have a conversation and want to

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>do a story about them or talk to them. And

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that's a difficult position to put you guys in. But

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you know some great guys, and most of them are

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>great guys really honestly, ninety seven percent or ninety nine

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 2>percent of them are pretty darn good guys. Do you

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>guys not agree? And then you know you have a

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>couple of apples that are you know that that will

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>upse up the car.

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>The way I always tell people is it's just like

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>wherever you work at, you know, if you work in

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>an office building, or if you work at a you know,

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>car dealership, or wherever you work, right like, most of

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the people you work with are pretty good people. And

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>then there might be one or two people are like, man,

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy, Oh my god, what an a hole. But

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I will say on this roster, this current roster, and

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just saying this because these guys are playing

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>right now. Most I think I can't think of a

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>guy in there that I'm like, Ah, this guy just

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>gives me a hard time every single time I go

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>up and talk to him. Or this guy causes so

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.919
<v Speaker 1>many problems in the clubhouse or whatever. It is a

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>really good clubhouse from top to bottom. But I mean

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>favorite players, I mean, nicest guys have ever covered me.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Jim Tolmy obviously there. Love Jeff frank Core we had

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>him on the show. He might be my favorite, my

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>all time good guy. Just you know, you only play

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>with the Phillies for one season. But there's chooch. You know,

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>there's all the backup catchers you could talk about, you know,

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>from Hoskins, Andrew Knapp, you know, Tommy Joseph we just

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>saw him in se Alley's the assistant hitting coach for

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the Mariners. Great guy, you know, but you know, and

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>then the star players. To Ryan Howard was always tremendous.

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I always liked talking to Jason where Shane Victorino, I mean,

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the list could go on and on and on.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Shane Victorya was HILARI You know, I love covering Jimmy

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Rollins because he did exciting things on the field and

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>he said provocative things after the game. Same with Shilling.

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 3>He did exciting things between the lines and he said

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 3>interesting things after the game. Yeah, you know, I liked

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 3>all those you know, Jim told me, just gentleman, Jim,

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 3>and you mentioned Tommy, Joseph, Michael Franco was a great kid,

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 3>remember Michael. Oh, just you know Rico, Bronia, Rex Humbler,

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 3>you could just I mean, just Billy Wagner. Just there's

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 3>so many good guys. And Brad Lidge.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Brad, what a quality human being.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, has this storybook season in two thousand

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 3>and eight, and he's more than willing to take you

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>along for the ride and share it with you as

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 3>a writer so you can write about it, very accommodating.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 3>The next year is the Season from Hell, and he's

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 3>the same guy. He's very accommodating, you know, it's not

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 3>your fault, and just a gentleman. So I could I

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>could go on for an hour about all the good

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 3>people you know, I've met in the game.

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's the same here. But the guys that

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>come to mind, Jim Tomy was my teammate and then

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I signed him a couple of times, had to trade

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 2>him once or twice. Just just saw to the earth

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>man just a wonderful, wonderful human being, almost to the

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>point where it's just real and it is the other guy.

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 2>The other guy that was like that a little bit

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>was Mike Sweeney. We didn't him for very long, but

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>what a tremendous human being he was. And you mentioned

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 2>the other guy, Rex Hadler. I just saw Rex. He's

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>doing the TV over there in Kansas City. Man, he

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>is just an absolute treat man. I just I love him.

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 2>He's so positive, he's such a I mean, there's so

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>many different characters in the game. I have some great

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 2>friends in the game. Gary DiSarcina who was a teammate

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and a coachmate of mine, Paul Sorrento, same thing. I mean,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>just there's so many millions of guys that I could

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>sit here and name that are just sweet, sweet people

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and great people to be around. Dave Hollins, I mean,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, one of the one of my great

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>great friends in the game. Just super human beings that

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you that you're in a lot of ways. I'm a

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 2>better person for knowing a lot of them.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know, it was a really good guy.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 3>He just popped into my head. Is Markleter Junior, who

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 3>just came through with the Yankees. He was here briefly,

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 3>just a kid who was you know, from Jersey Shore,

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, appreciated being a major leaguer, worked really hard,

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 3>just a good guy. I mean, it's just there's so

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:24.720
<v Speaker 3>many of them.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>You know. I I gotta mention Kevin Jordan because he

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>was an unlivable teammate. What a superhuman being he is.

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 2>We see him in San Francisco all the time, and

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it's great to get a chance to see him my benchmate.

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Just the awesome, great peaks.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 3>So today, you guys, I'll tell the story really quick.

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Franzen loves this story. In ninety eight, so you

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 3>guys signed directs how the ninety seven ninety eight two

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 3>year deal. He showed up hurt because he blew out

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 3>his hamstring trying to run twenty miles an hour on

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 3>a treadmill two days before spring training and it was

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>never right. Har And so you guys released him towards

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>the end of ninety eight at the VET and he's

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 3>standing in the front of his locker and uh, there's

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 3>gaggle of reporters around him. I'm kind of off to

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the side a little bit, and he's saying, you know,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I just wish I played better, and you know, I

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 3>was hurt, but I appreciate the opportunity and all the

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 3>right saying all the right stuff. Then he catches my eye.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>And he used to call me Steak for obvious reasons,

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>and he catches my eye. He goes, Steak, I got

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 3>fired today. He busts out crying big tears, and he's

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 3>hugging me and on my shoulder crying his eyes out,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking around saying, what am I supposed to

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 3>do here?

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>That must have made you feel very comfortable.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Today?

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>He was just disappointed and he wasn't able to live

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>up to the contract because he was a pretty good

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean prior to that. I think he was with

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the Angels just prior to that, and he had been

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>playing some pretty good baseball as like a utility guy,

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>second maseman, little outfield, little listle that could run a

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit, to do some things. And he was a

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>positive influence in the clubhouse.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>But were you on the team, he probably are on

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 3>the team. When he stole the little leave from the

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 3>Wrigley Field ivy, he went out and took a piece

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>of ivy.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure I played with him, Yeah, he went out and

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>took a.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Piece of ivy off the Wriggley field long and he

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 3>was going to like root it, you know that home

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to throw it, and the grounds crew got all over

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>his case.

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? That I would love. I would love

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to know if he actually did plant it, and if

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it's still goes, that's that is fantastic. Let's see if

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>we got one or two more. Our good buddy John

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Finger wants to know how does Jim get his tomatoes

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>so big?

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh man. You know a lot of people ask me that,

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 3>and the analogy I give them is when when it's easy,

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<v Speaker 3>grown tomatoes is easy. So when Charlie manuelill manage Roy Holliday,

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<v Speaker 3>he used to take the ball and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>go get him soon, and so I stick him in

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<v Speaker 3>the ground. I look up on this guy and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>go get him some little, water him a little bit, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Before you know it, you know, you're talking tomato sandwiches

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<v Speaker 3>on sour dough. Oh my god, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could eat him. I can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Digestion problems, Oh my gosh, you bumps me out. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I love tomatoes too, and yours are great.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, Jim's got yeah, Jim does a great job. With

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<v Speaker 1>his with his produce and let's let's see, let's wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this up. This is from a teamnt ten on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked a few questions. Favorite ballpark other than Citizens

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<v Speaker 1>Bank Park and then he said, any Phillies merch show

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<v Speaker 1>show merch coming, any Phillies show meetups soon. Let's start.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the ballpark. Favorite ballpark other than Citizens

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<v Speaker 1>Bank Park? If you had to send somebody on a plane,

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<v Speaker 1>all expenses paid, front row seat behind the visitors, dugout

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<v Speaker 1>watching Phillies game, where are you sending them? And don't

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<v Speaker 1>give me one answer, don't don't start real. Rattle off

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight Your favorite ballpark I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sending I'm sending him to San Francisco when the Giants

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<v Speaker 3>are good and it's a big game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. I'll say PNC Park because it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's at night, twilight, when the bridges and the lights

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<v Speaker 2>are going on in the city, purple lights, skyline. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say panc.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great one. That's a great one. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say eighteen t as well. I love I

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<v Speaker 1>love that ballpark in San Francisco, the location, the just

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<v Speaker 1>the view from behind behind home plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh The atmosphere there is just fantastic, like you said, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're good, when the Giants are good, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great atmosphere. And and it's a great ballpark food ballpark,

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<v Speaker 1>good lot of great, a lot of great, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great food at that ballpark. You get the garlic fries,

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<v Speaker 1>which you'll be feeling and tasting and smelling for the

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<v Speaker 1>next six days, no matter.

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<v Speaker 2>How pouring out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly right. But that is a great ballpark to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I love walking up there in the afternoon before the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a great view the outside of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>And then leaving is great because they have all the

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<v Speaker 1>palm trees out front like wrapped in these led lights,

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<v Speaker 1>these orange led lights. So you walk out, the ballpark

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<v Speaker 1>is really lit up beautifully. You have the Willie May

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<v Speaker 1>statue out front. It's just a great, totally great vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say this one thing as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember John Farrell telling me this, said, Reuben, when

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<v Speaker 2>you go out on the Lions and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good team, and they had a good we had a

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<v Speaker 2>very good team in sixteen and seventeen, there'll be nothing

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<v Speaker 2>like being a first base or third base coach at

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<v Speaker 2>Brickley at Fenway. It was spectacle. I walked out and

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<v Speaker 2>the club and the dugout and the first base coaching

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<v Speaker 2>box is like six feet I walked out there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and felt like, Wow, this is heavenly. That's gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>It was so badass, it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gotta be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then answers other questions. Any Phillies show merch

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<v Speaker 1>in the works, any Philly show media. We would love

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<v Speaker 1>to do a meet up. We have to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to fear about to do that. Yeah, figure

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<v Speaker 1>out something. We have to figure out a day to

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<v Speaker 1>do it when we're all off, when there's no Phillies game.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we can do like.

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<v Speaker 3>An Eagles watch party.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Chit chat, little chit chat Phillies in between.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, we do have some fun interesting We have some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting guests coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do have some stay tuned to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then right, yeah, we've got some merch on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so hopefully we'll be introducing that at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited about that. It's been a long time coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got to tease that's a little bit a tease.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of a teas. It'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different than that. But yeah, it'll be good.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be good.

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<v Speaker 3>So we went. We went really long today. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we pitched deep into the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did. We might have gone to eight innings,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron in.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's wrap this up exactly. We'll be back later

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<v Speaker 7>this week. But then, yeah, we answered answer a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of listener questions. We get we didn't even I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>even get to half the questions I wrote down on

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<v Speaker 7>my on my list here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll do it. Maybe we'll do it on Friday. Whenever, Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll come back on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, hey guys, I'll uh, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sell smellia. Am I allowed to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Smell you later?

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<v Speaker 3>For sure? You guys?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll smell you guys later.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll smell you too. Have a great one.

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<v Speaker 2>Smell it.

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