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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks. Ten takeaways from Wee Gate

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, and Rhett Lewis. What's up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show here, DJ, Bucky, Rhett, and guys.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to our ten takeaways here in just

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Speaker 1: the takeaways. Buck, I'll start with you here on the

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Speaker 1: first one. Leonard Williams traded the Jets ship him really

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Speaker 1: send him to your crosstown rivals and to give the

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Speaker 1: that would I mean, they got him out of the conference,

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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised. Maybe he didn't fetch more, but maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what the market is on Leondar Williams. People don't

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Speaker 1: and picking that up. Yeah, No, it's just that you're

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Speaker 1: And I hadn't really thought about a team that was

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Speaker 1: The price didn't seem like it was too high. No,

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Speaker 1: And this Jets roster, guys, it's in such bad shape.

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Joe Douglas about this is my

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Speaker 1: my opinion of Sam Donald's, you have to collect as

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Speaker 1: So Joey's just, you know, twenty ft ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: So I just go walking up the plane. I go, hey, Joey,

427
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Speaker 1: your brother just had a pick. He goes, Nicky had

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Speaker 1: a pick. I go, ye know, he's got three actually

429
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Speaker 1: just had a pick. He goes, You can I sit?

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Speaker 1: So I pulled up on my phone and I show

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Speaker 1: it to him, and it was so funny. He just

432
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Speaker 1: looked at it. He could definitely tell he's a proud brother.

433
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Speaker 1: But then he just kind of jokingly said, as only

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa can say, what what a jerk? I have

435
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Speaker 1: my best game of the season. Now he does this

436
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Speaker 1: and completely overshadows me, and then Rivers Rivers jumps in

437
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Speaker 1: and Rivers goes man, joe your brother runs exactly like

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Speaker 1: you do. It looks it looks like the exact same

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Speaker 1: human being. It was funny because Joey Bosa was dominant.

440
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Speaker 1: I think got four tackles for lost, two sacks, and

441
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Speaker 1: then Nick goes out has three sacks and a pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard to have a better family

443
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Speaker 1: day than that one. That was That was fun Why

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Speaker 1: I had to watch I did game to highlights last night,

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Speaker 1: so I was watching that game leading up to the

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Speaker 1: show and just I mean, Bosa just dominated, and then

447
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners dominated in the run game. Devin Coleman,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, four total touchdowns on the day. He was

449
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Speaker 1: inspired by the Hoosiers getting a big win over Nebraska

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Speaker 1: to move to six two in the season. Uh look,

451
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Speaker 1: big day for the Hoosiers and uh, and for Tevin

452
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Speaker 1: Coleman as well. I mean that run game in San

453
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Speaker 1: Francisco is about as good as it gets in the

454
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Speaker 1: league right now. Absolutely, it's Look, it's a dominant run. Gay,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you haven't played against that Shanahan run

456
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Speaker 1: game before when the original Dad Mike Shanahan was in

457
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Speaker 1: Denver and you had t D running. It is problematic

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Speaker 1: because they get all the linemen running like elephants on parade,

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Speaker 1: and then the running backs are able to cut back

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Speaker 1: because they chopped down the back side. So it's problematic.

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Speaker 1: It's physical, it's intimidating, and right now they have so

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Speaker 1: much confidence in the ground game it really opens up

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Speaker 1: the rest of the playbook. And look, even though Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo isn't playing at what I would call a high level,

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Speaker 1: he's a ficient enough to take advantage of defense overplaying

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Speaker 1: the run, which why is why the forty nine his

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Speaker 1: offense is really so hard to difficult to defend. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'll uh, do you want me to take us to

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Speaker 1: our next one? Here? Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go on a little Minshew magic with a few

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Speaker 1: tricks left learning going from the eight mans you dropped

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Speaker 1: the throw man. You look right, look pump still look

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Speaker 1: still look like fire for the end zone broad by

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Speaker 1: d J Jar touchdown chart attack in the corner of

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Speaker 1: the end zone and the Jags. It's definitely, oh the

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Speaker 1: old chart attack like that one. Yeah, so so look

477
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Speaker 1: it was all to say about Gardner Minshew weeks six

478
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Speaker 1: and seven, after taking the league by storm with the

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Speaker 1: mustache and everything and coming in for Nick Foles and

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Speaker 1: and really doing a nice job for the Jaguars the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks, he started to be like, Okay, when

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles comes back, it's you know, it's probably gonna

483
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Speaker 1: be time. This thing might have run its course. Then

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Speaker 1: he gets a date with the Jets and he absolutely

485
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Speaker 1: took advantage three touchdown passes in this game. Uh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got more multiple touchdown games than any Jaguars rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback and franchise history. Um, he's got five games like

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Speaker 1: that and then this he's the first rookie with three

489
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Speaker 1: plus passing touchdowns. But he is tied with Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: for the most extended play passing touched counts, which means

491
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Speaker 1: he's finding ways to get out of pressure scramble, get

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and it still find a way to make

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Speaker 1: a positive play. And that is what's most impressive to

494
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Speaker 1: me about Minshew and if he can keep this up.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Nick Foles not eligible till their week

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Speaker 1: eleven game, which is right after a bye week, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's still a decision to be

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Speaker 1: made in Jacksonville. Look, man, it's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 1: pull him the way they're playing, and I know that

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles will all for more because he can do

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Speaker 1: more things at the line of scrimmage. However, Nick Foles

502
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Speaker 1: is most comfortable when he's able to play out of

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Speaker 1: the shotgun Leonard for Nett, and the rest of the

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Speaker 1: team operates better when they have more of a traditional

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Speaker 1: under center style. So Doug Moron has to make a

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Speaker 1: decision what is best for the entire team. Is it

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Speaker 1: best for us to go back and do some of

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Speaker 1: the spread stuff that makes our top, big money quarterback comfortable,

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Speaker 1: or is it better for the rest of the guys

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Speaker 1: that have the low price quarterback that plays in the

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Speaker 1: center and has developed a rhythm in chemistry with the

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Speaker 1: rest of the guys. Tough decision for him to make.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's one that we're going to see

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Speaker 1: made very very soon. Yeah, he's made plays on time

515
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Speaker 1: and off schedule. I know those off schedule throws get

516
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Speaker 1: you a lot of the highlights in the A fun

517
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Speaker 1: place to watch, but there's also times you see Menshew

518
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Speaker 1: hanging there and deliver the ball. The one thing that

519
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Speaker 1: jumps out to me and I think maybe you could

520
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Speaker 1: have uh come up with this information based off of

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Speaker 1: his wardrobe. But there's no fear at partner Minshew, absolutely none.

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Speaker 1: And uh it's fun to watch. Thirteen touchdowns, two picks, boys,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good. Well I'll take that really really good,

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Speaker 1: not bad. What do you got buck? The pages? Just

525
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Speaker 1: take care of business first and chat for the fats

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Speaker 1: balls on the right, hash over the Browns fourteen change

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Speaker 1: white speck in two receivers right the three left. Brady

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Speaker 1: takes the snap, looks over the middle of the pump.

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Speaker 1: Cats is in the pocket. Now he starts to roll

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Speaker 1: to his rights and he ends up pretty times in

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Speaker 1: touchdown Patriots, So why are you going to the pocket?

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Speaker 1: Great composure by the quarterback. Can you see the care

533
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Speaker 1: sucking underneath bags? Do these folk work drills? He sits,

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Speaker 1: he slots laft, slots back up, bags out that rights

535
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: finds this guy anilement. He's working man. The man conference

536
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Speaker 1: sees his quarterbacks in trouble breaks, his route finds him

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Speaker 1: out to tune. Can't defend it when you give this

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Speaker 1: guy time four yard touchdown. You know, when you watch

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Speaker 1: this game, I don't. I don't think it was a

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Speaker 1: very impressive performance by the Patriots, but I think it

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Speaker 1: is um great that it coincided with Bill Belichick getting

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Speaker 1: his three hunt win. And I think the reason why

543
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Speaker 1: is because when you look at this team, this is

544
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Speaker 1: a team that is just consistent, and I think their

545
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Speaker 1: consistency forces you to play almost like a mistake free

546
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: game to have to beat them. You hear coaches all

547
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Speaker 1: the time say, look, make the other team beat you.

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Speaker 1: They will eventually make mistakes. And when I look at

549
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they just wait for you to fall apart.

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00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: You kind of stumble over your own stuff. You you Stubb,

551
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: you told you do something that gives them opportunities and

552
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Speaker 1: then they seize on those opportunities. And so for Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick to get the three hundred wins, I think what

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Speaker 1: he has done is really master the recipe of being

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Speaker 1: able to win, and the best way to win is

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Speaker 1: to not beat yourself. And we're saying it is hard

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Speaker 1: for teams to avoid beating themselves, especially when they played

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. You know what, I thought I could take

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Speaker 1: the take the listeners behind the curtain here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all have a group text message when

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Speaker 1: we're saying what takeaways we wanna, we wanna you know,

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about them the next day. And

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Speaker 1: so I remember reading Bucky's when he came in and said,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots take care of business. It was still the

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Speaker 1: third quarter. I was like, Buck, they were in control

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Speaker 1: of the game. It was over. They were now and

567
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Speaker 1: they're up fourteen. We're like, no, look, Buck's right, man.

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Speaker 1: They don't beat themselves and that's not the type of

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Speaker 1: game that they were going to give up, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Alright, boys, I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to give you one point on this game. So Buck,

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Speaker 1: our mutual friend Joey Roberts, who does a lot of

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Speaker 1: work with Trent dial for Um Love Justice Along and

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Speaker 1: this is fascinating to me. Joey's great obviously, right you

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Speaker 1: know him as well? Uh, the top five league leaders

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Speaker 1: right and snaps under center. So teams aren't the gun

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Speaker 1: teams that are quarterback under center. The top five teams

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Speaker 1: been the most time up there. Their combined record right

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Speaker 1: now thirty three and six. Here are the teams that

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Speaker 1: are under center the most in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, the forty Niners, the Rams, the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: the Saints. And it this is this is the correlation here.

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Speaker 1: Think about this in college in two thousand nineteen this season,

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Speaker 1: do you know how many snaps the percentages in college

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Speaker 1: football of being under center? It's ten point two. These

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Speaker 1: kids that have ten percent. So these kids and Bucky

587
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: knows this culture as well as anybody in the seven

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Speaker 1: on seven world that we live in. In junior high,

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Speaker 1: in high school, and in college, it is spread city, baby,

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Speaker 1: And so your defense, your defensive coordinator, it's speed and

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00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: spread and shotgun and run to space. And now all

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00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get in the NFL and now

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Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback putting his back to you and

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Speaker 1: you don't know are they running the ball? Is it

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Speaker 1: play action? I've got lineman coming at me. Then you

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00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: can mix in a little bit of even some of

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00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: the you know RPO stuff from under center. These guys

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00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: don't know how to fit against a run. They don't

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Speaker 1: know how to react of off play action. I mean

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Speaker 1: it is there is no mystery to me that the

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Speaker 1: teams that are under center having tremendous success right now

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Great point DJ, and I'm gonna take

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00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: it even further by looking at the Vikings. Forty, Niners

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00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: and Rams all have a similar run game. It's the

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00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: old Alice Gibbs system. Outside zone stretch movement based uh,

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00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: bootlegs coming off of their run action very successful. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots in the Saints are communities. They can change

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Speaker 1: it up. The reason why this brand of football works

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Speaker 1: is because you talked about the shotgun and all these

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators putting speed on the field to defend the

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Speaker 1: spread with the thing that negate speed is straight ahead power.

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Speaker 1: And I'm surprised that more teams haven't gone back to

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Speaker 1: an old school approach because when you have these two

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Speaker 1: and fifteen and two twenty pound linebackers that aren't used

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Speaker 1: to taking on lead blocks, now used to taking on

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Speaker 1: full backs and being able to get off blocks from

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Speaker 1: guards and stuff climbing to the second level, it is

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Speaker 1: a tremendous advantage. Is also a reason why the running

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Speaker 1: game is beginning to come back to prominence in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. You're saying, these running backs have these

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Speaker 1: big games because the team's realize we can run the

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Speaker 1: little guys off the field, and they're having success. And

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Speaker 1: those teams that you're talking about big and run game,

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Speaker 1: big in play action, which is why they're really really successful.

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Speaker 1: Two things I'll add to that. I was I'm interested

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Speaker 1: to see that the Patriots are on that list, and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady it spends a lot of time under center,

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Speaker 1: but they have not had the success in the run

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Speaker 1: game that they've had that they certainly had last year.

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle twenty one carries on seventy four yards and

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Speaker 1: he had a sixteen yard carry in there. So you

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Speaker 1: take that one out, it's twenty carries for fifty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: The yards for attempt is down a little a lot

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Speaker 1: lower than I'm sure they like it to be. And

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Speaker 1: then on the flip side, the Browns, what did you

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Speaker 1: love about what Freddy Kitchens was doing with the Browns

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Speaker 1: right getting So it was funny we had that conversation

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Speaker 1: at the comment where Freddy Kitchens, he was getting in

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Speaker 1: twelve and thirteen personnel, putting all the big guys on

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Speaker 1: the field, and then this year he goes away from

641
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Speaker 1: it because he got cute. Old school football continues to

642
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Speaker 1: work in the National Football League. I just surprised more

643
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: teams aren't doing it. But the Browns probably had the

644
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Speaker 1: most successful rushing attack against the Patriots in this game.

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Speaker 1: Hub goes for one thirty one. If he doesn't turn

646
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Speaker 1: it over, they're in much better shape on those first

647
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Speaker 1: the two of those first three drives, so that it's

648
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Speaker 1: an interesting point to make and one to follow. Let's

649
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Speaker 1: keep Let's keep moving here, boys Eagles. They run through

650
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Speaker 1: the Bills. At his second out of nine, Lens Flank

651
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Speaker 1: thought beside fravorite Savers Wentz and the gun. Lentz ends

652
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: it off again and running up the middle, picking up

653
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Speaker 1: the first out of more at the fully thirty five

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Speaker 1: thirty at Sand's funny five Funny fifteen Top five touchdown

655
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Speaker 1: saw his first NFL rushing touchdown. Le Sandy just breaks

656
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Speaker 1: off the left side and he out runs everybody, leaving

657
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Speaker 1: all the blue shirts in his week for his first

658
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Speaker 1: NFL touchdown. We have been waiting for that time, but

659
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: he's so explosive at this time, he hit the whole

660
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Speaker 1: not Harry, and he went, Yeah, this is a team

661
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Speaker 1: that's gow gone on the road and beat up the

662
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Speaker 1: Packers physically. They just went on the road and beat

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Speaker 1: up the Buffalo Bills. And we think about difference makers.

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Speaker 1: We all have often talked about quarterbacks or pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a difference maker for this Eagles team.

666
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: Is Jason Kelsey the center? When you watch all their

667
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: big plays in the screen game, all the different things

668
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: he can do getting to the second level. He took

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Speaker 1: ed Oliver and washed him down the line of scrimmage

670
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Speaker 1: about twelve yards on one running play. I mean, he

671
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: is phenomenal and he's kind of the guy that makes

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Speaker 1: that whole thing go up front. Look, when I when

673
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: I think about the Eagles, I think one Orlando Scandrick

674
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Speaker 1: having those comments come out. I think kind of Galvin

675
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: as the squad too. I believe Doug Peterson's ability to

676
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: his decision to recommit to the running game helps him. Look,

677
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I love Carson Wentst and I think Carson Wentz is phenomenal.

678
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: I think he has a potential to be an outstanding

679
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Speaker 1: quarterback in this league, and we've seen him play at

680
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: a high level. But they have to take some of

681
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: the pressure off of him. I've in for so long.

682
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Coaches get enamored with quarterbacks and they want to give

683
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: him more, and sometimes you need to give them less.

684
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: When they run the football and they're committed to running

685
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: the ball, he plays better. He may not put up

686
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: the big numbers that the fantasy geeks like, however, he's efficient.

687
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: He's effective. And really this team plays better because they

688
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: also mask the deficiencies of the defense by playing a

689
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: little more possession oriented. Two best games Eagles have played

690
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: all season. They run the heck out of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Beat the Packers at Lambeau and here beat the Bills

692
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Run game travels absolutely all right, What do

693
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Speaker 1: you got next, book man? With the coats ugly winds

694
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: still count here? It is snap ball town, kick us up,

695
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: It's on its way past the distance. It is done.

696
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Sit down, hold the league, but hold tav league the

697
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. Not sit through the fifteen to

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00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: thirteen for twenty two seconds left hall like over problem

699
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: and they called free fight too. Look, this is a

700
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: terrific example of the Indianapolis Coast and why. I believe

701
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: they're a better version of the team than the one

702
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Speaker 1: that we saw last year with Andrew Luck. They are

703
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: a more balanced team. They have the running game working,

704
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: they have a defense that can get stops and generate turnovers.

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Speaker 1: And Jacoby bri said is really playing very very well

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Speaker 1: as a game manager. Now that's not a disrespectful term

707
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Speaker 1: towards him, but I think what he does best, he

708
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: understands how to kind of insert himself in and out

709
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Speaker 1: of the game based on what they needed. We saw

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Speaker 1: at the end when they needed to drive, he made

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Speaker 1: more plays. We saw the athleticism step up, We saw

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Speaker 1: him make plays from the pocket. He is exactly what

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Speaker 1: they need. Now. How far can they go playing this way?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know they're very efficient,

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Speaker 1: effective team and they're one of those teams they make

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Speaker 1: you beat them and most teams don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do so. Yeah, guys, I'm looking at this game

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Speaker 1: real quick and flip it over to the Denver Bronco

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Speaker 1: is they are rushing the past or better? I know

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is upset they weren't more aggressive, and I

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Speaker 1: tend to agree with Joe Flacco on that one, but

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Speaker 1: the other takeaway from me on the Denver side, Uh,

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this one. Derek Wolfe had two

724
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Speaker 1: sacks and um from the inside. He's a name I've

725
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: heard kind of buzzing around some of these trade circles.

726
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Speaker 1: So we'll see. Maybe by the time this comes out,

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00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: he'd be one that has been dealt. But I would

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Speaker 1: definitely keep an eye on that name as somebody that

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00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: teams are looking at. Yeah, that's an interesting one to

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Speaker 1: watch for. Jcoby Rissett and he comes off a game

731
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Speaker 1: where he had four touchdown passes in a win and

732
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: then bounces back. This one wasn't as impressive, but I

733
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Speaker 1: will take the throw he made to get Away Miller

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Speaker 1: over the four touchdown performance that wins games. Dude, that

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Speaker 1: that is what wins games. You need your quarterback to

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Speaker 1: be able to deliver when it matters, and he was

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Speaker 1: able to make a play when they really needed, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our last one here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of errands you gotta worry about. With

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Speaker 1: the Packers rode all the shotguns, Paul Williams trying to

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Speaker 1: the right, CRI receivers funds to the left, Jimmy Graham

742
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: slot right side staff roder is looking pump bikes now

743
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: still looking under pressure, puts it right side of the inside.

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Speaker 1: Is it car It is caught in the back line

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Speaker 1: of the end Williams. God, this is in the far

746
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Speaker 1: right corner of the end zone. They beat Boris Clayborne. Yeah,

747
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: that was a ridiculous throw by Aaron Rodgers, one of

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: the best you'll ever see, escaping and just flipping it

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Speaker 1: almost like a shortstop deep in the whole kind of

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: submarine that thing across the diamond. Um, it was beautiful.

751
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers, we know what he could bring to

752
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: the table. Now you've get Aaron Jones rolling, And getting

753
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones rolling in the passing game in this one

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00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: was huge. They were able to split him out. You know,

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00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: I do those charger games. I see how they use

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00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler in the passing game. And this was the

757
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: literally the exact same play that Austin Ekeler hit a

758
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: home run on the Tennessee Titans last week. They hit

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00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: a home run on in this one. Um, they were

760
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: able to find out it was man coverage and once

761
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: they had a linebacker and everything else cleared away, um,

762
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: double moves see you later. That is a huge advantage

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: when you can find that matchup with a guy like

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. So I'll say that I had an initial

765
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: reaction kind of like Matt Lafleur, but like remember home alone,

766
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: when mcaulay Culkin puts the aftershave on for the first time,

767
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I heard his hands on his face. Yeah, I mean,

768
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Speaker 1: like that's how I felt. How many quarterbacks around the

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Speaker 1: league wouldn't even just let me just toss that one

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Speaker 1: into the stands as I'm running out of bounce, wouldn't

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: even try to keep that one in. Yeah, I mean

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00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: it was a remarkable throws, even better catch, um. But

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Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing from the Great Way Packers,

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00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: we're seeing Matt Lafleur's influence on this offense. We're seeing

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: the running backs more involved. And I can say this,

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00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the Packers for years, obviously because I

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: have a close tie there. They never utilized the running

778
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: backs like some teams like the New England Pagents have

779
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: utilized the running backs for years in the passing game.

780
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: But now we're seeing them and Aaron Jones a hundred

781
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: and fifty nine receiving yards and two touchdown receptions. This

782
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: is the kind of impact that changes the way defensive

783
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: coordinators have to defend your offense. When you have a

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00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: running back that can be split out there and used

785
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: as another wire receiver who also can give you the

786
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: ability to run the ball and get those dirty yards,

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00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: it changes the way they have to defend the Packers.

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: And it's really going to open up the field for

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00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers when you look at this team, just no,

790
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is coming back, and when he comes back,

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: he's going to have more room to operate than ever.

792
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: I like the way they're trending. The only concern I

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: have about them, I really don't know how good that

794
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: defense is. That defense is opportunistic, but it's not dominant.

795
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: And I wanted in these matchups as we get into

796
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs forty Niners and Saints, can they go toe

797
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: to toe with a heavyweight and win with their defense.

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00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Jeneral Alexanders turned out to be a pretty good corner. Huh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really good. He's a great player. Yeah he's been.

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: He's been a really good player for him. He's absolutely

801
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: a really good player. The one thing, the one thing

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00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: I would just say is an underlying concern for the

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Packers and we'll see what happens going for But giving

804
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: up five sacks in that game, and some of those throws,

805
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: including the one we just played, the highlight throw by rights,

806
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: he was under a lot of heat in that game,

807
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: and that's something that obviously did not happen the week before.

808
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: The Raiders don't have much of a pass rush and

809
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: he was clean. Um. This is the genius and the

810
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: beauty of Aaron Rodgers is even when you don't play

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00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: great up front, he can cover a lot of that

812
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: stuff up. But that was just one thing and I'm like, okay,

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00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: we'll see if we'll we'll keep an eye on that

814
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Speaker 1: on pass protection wise, how they are going forward. They

815
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: play the Chargers this week, who can rush the pastor

816
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, so be interesting to see how that goes.

817
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: Botr and Bologa both misstime in this game at different

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00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: points in the game. And this has been a really

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00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 1: good offensive line as a unit. So if you start

820
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: to lose a piece here and there, that could cause

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Speaker 1: some problems going forward. All right, that'll do it for

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Speaker 1: us boys. A little tent takeaway podcasts, some bonus nuggets

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Speaker 1: there at the top. I hope you guys have enjoyed it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you have any questions for us, get on Apple Podcast,

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Speaker 1: drop us a review in there, and drop a question.

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