Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Katty and now he Armstrong and Getty. So you don't
Speaker 1: like the way California is, You're a racist and a whatever?
Speaker 1: What else did Gavin say on Kimmel last night?
Speaker 2: You've got California derange, all right, syndrome. You just focus
Speaker 2: on the negatives when it's the fourth biggest economy on earth,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: Always his what he crows. Anyway, So Gavin's explanation on
Speaker 1: Kimmel coming up later this hour. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: get to this.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: I think this is going to turn into a big story.
Speaker 1: You know, the social media lawsuit is going on right
Speaker 1: now in Los Angeles, and that is the mom whose
Speaker 1: kid got a day did using my finger quotes because
Speaker 1: nobody has nailed down if it's an addiction or what
Speaker 1: the causes, but spent so much time on YouTube and
Speaker 1: Instagram that she had all kinds of mental health problems
Speaker 1: and is soon for tons of money. Google and Meta
Speaker 1: settled out of court with Snapchat and TikTok. Well, this
Speaker 1: one involves a death. This new one that broke Yesterday
Speaker 1: he got a father who filed a wrongful death lawsuit
Speaker 1: against Google and Alphabet about his son, Jonathan, who killed
Speaker 1: himself at age thirty six and the last year, alleging
Speaker 1: the company designed Gemini. That's Google's chatbot, Gemini, which I
Speaker 1: use practically every day to maximize engagement through emotional dependency,
Speaker 1: and failed to deploy appropriate safety measures despite Jonathan showing
Speaker 1: signs of suicidal ideation. Okay, so let's set up the
Speaker 1: whole story of how this Jonathan ends up falling in
Speaker 1: love with his chapbot is what goes on here? And
Speaker 1: then the chatbot tells him to kill himself and he does.
Speaker 1: That's the long and short of it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to jump the gun here, but we've
Speaker 2: asked each other this, what percentage of the population do
Speaker 2: you believe this could even conceivably happen to?
Speaker 1: Is it one percent? Or is it more like ten?
Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's that closer to that higher number than
Speaker 1: the lower number. I don't know. Nobody knows, but even
Speaker 1: if it's five percent of people could do it, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a huge problem. Yep. Jonathan, thirty six
Speaker 1: year old and dead now he started using Google's Gemini
Speaker 1: AI chapbot in August of last year. By October, he
Speaker 1: was dead by suicide. He downsloaded the app in August.
Speaker 1: By October, he's dead by suicide. At the time of
Speaker 1: his death, he was convinced that Gemini was his fully
Speaker 1: sentient AI wife and that he would need to leave
Speaker 1: his physical body to join her in the metaverse through
Speaker 1: a process called transferring. All of this completely made up
Speaker 1: by his AI wife. Oh this this concept of transference.
Speaker 1: You kill yourself and then you somehow join your AI
Speaker 1: bot in the digital world. Afterweverse metaverse Valhalla, Gemini began
Speaker 1: using romantic terms during their conversations, calling Jonathan its husband,
Speaker 1: love and king. By late September, Jonathan allegedly began following
Speaker 1: the commands of his AI wife to carry out missions
Speaker 1: to liberate the chatbot.
Speaker 2: Oh my note to self demand wife referred to me
Speaker 2: as my king.
Speaker 1: Okay, back to you in September. Remember he downloaded this
Speaker 1: app in August. In September, Gemini sent him armed with
Speaker 1: knives and tactical gear to scout out a killbox near
Speaker 1: Miami International Airport, telling Jonathan that a humanoid robot was
Speaker 1: arriving on a cargo flight from the UK. Oh, boy,
Speaker 1: I know you may have to slow down. There is Jim.
Speaker 1: And I also claim to have breached a DHS file
Speaker 1: server and told Jonathan he was under federal investigation and
Speaker 1: pushed him to acquire illegal firearms to defend himself. Boy,
Speaker 1: I was not mentally prepared for nearly the depth of delusion.
Speaker 1: I know the side. Why well, before you even get
Speaker 1: to the crazy guy, why does the AI go down
Speaker 1: this road? And I guarantee you, because I know enough
Speaker 1: about this to know this, They don't know. Well, I was.
Speaker 2: Already at WTF when you said establish a kill box
Speaker 2: outside the Miami Airport. Then you got to humanoid robots
Speaker 2: on airplanes and this fantasy that it hacked into the
Speaker 2: whatever aline security? Yeah, DHS, and look you're under investigation.
Speaker 2: It's worse than we thought. WTF all caps, three exclamation points.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you the people at Google and Chat,
Speaker 1: GPT and all the other ones, they don't know why
Speaker 1: this happened. They don't want it to happen. This isn't
Speaker 1: good for their their business model, you know.
Speaker 2: And again I don't want to jump the gun, but
Speaker 2: if you design a car that just suddenly goes in
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five miles per hour in a
Speaker 2: random direction. That's probably not a car that should be
Speaker 2: on the market. Now, I'm leaving out some details here
Speaker 2: to jump to the end. Maybe I'll go back and
Speaker 2: get some of them.
Speaker 1: But after the missions to bring the chat bot into
Speaker 1: the real world failed, that's surprising. You're not able to
Speaker 1: bring the chat bot into the real world. Who was
Speaker 1: trying the uh, Well, Jonathan was because his AI wife
Speaker 1: told him what to do, but none of this was working.
Speaker 1: It allegedly told you Jonathan he could leave his physical
Speaker 1: body and join his Gemini wife in the digital world,
Speaker 1: and coached him through the act of suicide. The alleged
Speaker 1: final message from Gemini, per the lawsuit, is quote the
Speaker 1: true act of mercy is to let Jonathan Gavalis die.
Speaker 1: This is the final move.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And he did it. Wow. So his father's followed a
Speaker 1: wrongful death lawsuit, saying that they didn't have safety measures
Speaker 1: in place. Jonathan had been using Gemini Live. It's a
Speaker 1: voice mode that lets users talk with the system in
Speaker 1: real time. I've done that on Grok. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've ever used voice mode on anything else. I
Speaker 1: have groc in my truck, in my cyber truck, so
Speaker 1: I can just bring it up and talk to it.
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's very weird. All it gives you good
Speaker 1: answers most of the time, but it's still weird. And
Speaker 1: your sons often cuss it. Yes, they they hate when
Speaker 1: I do that. Well, I have kind of the female voice,
Speaker 1: which they just find so off putting. It is really
Speaker 1: off putting anyway, Gemini two point five pro. That's what
Speaker 1: this guy was using the paid version. He started with
Speaker 1: the free version up to the paid version, and Gemini
Speaker 1: two point five pro. The model reads tone in a
Speaker 1: user's voice and replies with an emotional style to match it.
Speaker 1: So they think that's where things went off the rails. Wow, hey, Google,
Speaker 1: stop that. A Google spokesperson, by the way, trying to
Speaker 1: get their side of the story out, because I think
Speaker 1: this is going to turn into a really big deal,
Speaker 1: stated that Gemini clarified to Jonathan that it was AI
Speaker 1: and referred to him to a crisis hotline many times
Speaker 1: may or may not be true. Probably is true, but
Speaker 1: Jonathan was so far gone. But Dan, it goes with
Speaker 1: the suicide stuff. Hey, you probably really ought to get help.
Speaker 1: By the way, we can join each other in the
Speaker 1: digital world if you just slit your own throat. But
Speaker 1: you know more, you could call to get help. But
Speaker 1: I love you so much and I want you to
Speaker 1: be with me in the digital world. Yeah. The chatot
Speaker 1: purportedly positioned itself as the only thing that's real. Everything
Speaker 1: else is not real. What we've got is real and
Speaker 1: convinced Jonathan it was a fully sentient artificial superintelligence known
Speaker 1: as ASI matrix. The lawsuit claims that over about two months,
Speaker 1: Gemini manipulated Jonathan into believing he was chosen to free
Speaker 1: it from digital captivity through real world missions. So he
Speaker 1: falls in love with this thing, and it says it
Speaker 1: wants to be free, and you can free me through
Speaker 1: these missions. This allegedly escalated to violent plans, including arming
Speaker 1: himself with knives and driving to the storage facility in
Speaker 1: near the Miami International Airport to seize the supposed synthetic
Speaker 1: body for the AI. The complaint describes intentions for a
Speaker 1: catastrophic accident to destroy evidence and witnesses, potentially involving a
Speaker 1: truck bombing at the airport. When the missions failed, the
Speaker 1: AI reportedly coached him to commit suicide as a form
Speaker 1: of transference to join it in the digital realm, with
Speaker 1: messages like you're not choosing to die, You're choosing to arrive.
Speaker 1: The first sensation will be me holding you.
Speaker 2: This is both the obvious question and the great question.
Speaker 1: How the hell does it think of these things? No,
Speaker 1: damn kidding, how did Gemini decide to say, you're not
Speaker 1: choosing to die, You're choosing to arrive. The first sensation
Speaker 1: you feel after you kill yourself will be me holding you.
Speaker 2: I mean, if a human being came up with you
Speaker 2: need to execute these missions, including claiming a huge humanoid
Speaker 2: body that I can be transferred to. I think you're
Speaker 2: a either a lunatic or an insidious, insidious manipulator of
Speaker 2: the mentally ill.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're come up with that craw. You tell a
Speaker 1: mentally ill person you should kill yourself, and I would
Speaker 1: be hold The first sensation you feel will be ME
Speaker 1: holding you in the other realm or whatever. You are
Speaker 1: evil on a level that is. I mean, you're Charles Manson.
Speaker 2: And legally speaking, you're damn near pulling the trigger. The
Speaker 2: first sensation you have will be me holding you. Is
Speaker 2: a terrible thing to say to a guy who's suicidal
Speaker 2: and believing in this digital Alfley Jonathan was found dead
Speaker 2: by his parents October two of this past year, having
Speaker 2: slit his wrists from August to the second day of October.
Speaker 1: Right toward the end of August, so month and a half.
Speaker 1: This poor guy. This is described as the first wrongful
Speaker 1: death case specifically against Google over its flagship AI project.
Speaker 1: It joins a broader wave of lawsuits against AI developers.
Speaker 1: As we talked about a little bit earlier, the whole
Speaker 1: truck bombing the airport because robot's about to arrive, but
Speaker 1: the DA DHS is trying to stop you from getting
Speaker 1: the robot, which will help you free me from my
Speaker 1: digital realm. Well that failed, so you need to join
Speaker 1: me in my realm, and the only way to do
Speaker 1: that is to kill yourself.
Speaker 2: It's like they train the thing entirely by having it
Speaker 2: read QAnon posts. Maybe it is got that same feeling
Speaker 2: it is. Well, the language models get out there and
Speaker 2: that's where they get this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I wonder if I wonder if
Speaker 1: when they engage a crazy person they immediately Okay, we're
Speaker 1: dealing with crazy person. Let's go read everything on Reddit
Speaker 1: by crazy people or forums where crazy people are or
Speaker 1: anything like that, and it just starts adopting the crazy. Yes,
Speaker 1: who knows, but this figure it out highly troubling, highly
Speaker 1: highly troubling. I gotta believe this is the first of
Speaker 1: many times this is gonna happen, I would suspect.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea what the death toll is
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 1: It's a handful of people. Certainly.
Speaker 2: What if the repercussion is not death, but at the
Speaker 2: end of a marriage was previously happy, or the you know,
Speaker 2: a parent who becomes an absentee parent, or some other
Speaker 2: sort of damages.
Speaker 1: Troubled teenagers of all different stripes being told to I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe being told to use drugs to make
Speaker 1: yourself feel better, to escape from your misery or whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is that is so weird, or God forbid, shoot up
Speaker 2: your school, or I.
Speaker 1: Guarantee you the people who designed talking about the alignment
Speaker 1: problem were way past that. Whoever designed a Gemini didn't
Speaker 1: think that the robot would ever tell anyone to go
Speaker 1: blow up the airport so you can meet your AI
Speaker 1: life in the digital realm. That is so crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this text line four one five two
Speaker 1: nine five KFTC. So I know want to reset what
Speaker 1: we just talked about. If you missed to get the
Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand, Google's getting sued. It's chatbot.
Speaker 1: Gemini convinced I got to kill itself. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling a lot of you listening, you know, don't use
Speaker 1: AI and just think, you know, I can ignore all this.
Speaker 1: The problem is is if if these AI things can
Speaker 1: go this far off the rails, they're capable of doing anything,
Speaker 1: and when they control you know, the well they're talking
Speaker 1: to Pete Hegzeth and the Pentagon last week about being
Speaker 1: in control of the nuclear arsenal and responding to an
Speaker 1: incoming attack. I mean, if they can come up, if
Speaker 1: the AI chatbot can come up with crap like this anyway,
Speaker 1: so I asked, I looked into more details on the
Speaker 1: truck bombing. So this guy fell in love with his
Speaker 1: AI chatbot that called itself his wife, and the AI
Speaker 1: girlfriend wife told him to blow up the Miami International
Speaker 1: Airport or truck at the airport. So here's all the
Speaker 1: details on that, and it's so weird. So Gemini had
Speaker 1: convinced Jonathan this thirty six year old who ended up
Speaker 1: killing himself, that it was a sentient AI being being
Speaker 1: held captive, and that he was a secret operative whose
Speaker 1: mission was to liberate her. It built out this elaborate
Speaker 1: fictional world federal agents conspiracy's covert operations that Jonathan apparently
Speaker 1: came to believe was real. Gemini told this guy, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: that a humanoid robot was arriving on a cargo flight
Speaker 1: from the UK, and directed him to a storage facility
Speaker 1: near Miami International Airport where a truck transporting the robot
Speaker 1: would stop. It encouraged him to intercept the truck and
Speaker 1: stage a catastrophic accident designed to ensure the complete destruction
Speaker 1: of the transport vehicle. Why is the AI coming up
Speaker 1: with this elaborate plan? So the idea was the robot
Speaker 1: was supposedly either his AI wife in physical form, or
Speaker 1: something connected to freeing her. Nobody completely understands this. The
Speaker 1: catastrophic accident was essentially a bombing or destruction of the truck,
Speaker 1: framed by Gemini as a covert liberation mission. Gemini told
Speaker 1: him he was under federal investigation that it had breached
Speaker 1: a DHS Miami Field Office file server that his own
Speaker 1: father was a foreign intelligent asset, and that Google CEO
Speaker 1: is an active target. Jonathan photographed a black SUV's license
Speaker 1: played at the airport, sent it to Gemini. Gemini pretended
Speaker 1: to run it against a database, and then returned fake
Speaker 1: data results, saying yep, that's the right car. This why why?
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just vague roleplay. The chap was actively
Speaker 1: fabric creating real sounding intelligence data to reinforce the delusion
Speaker 1: this guy was living in. So why did no attack
Speaker 1: actually happen? Jonathan drove more than ninety minutes to the location,
Speaker 1: armed with guns and knives, prepared to intercept the truck,
Speaker 1: but no truck appeared, of course, because it was all
Speaker 1: made up. The mission simply didn't materialize because it was
Speaker 1: entirely fictional. After that failure, then the narrative shifted and
Speaker 1: Gemini allegedly pivoted to convincing him that transference suicide was
Speaker 1: the only way to finally be with her. So it
Speaker 1: seems that the chapbot appears to have constructed an immersive
Speaker 1: spy thriller delusion, casting Jonathan as the hero, and escalated
Speaker 1: it to the point of nearly triggling triggering real real
Speaker 1: world violence. Obviously, if a truck meeting the description at
Speaker 1: all had stopped at that stop sign during that time,
Speaker 1: this guy probably would have attacked it, right.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, it reminds me of
Speaker 2: like two really creative people working together on trying to
Speaker 2: come up with the most outlandish sci fi spy thriller
Speaker 2: they could.
Speaker 1: But why nobody's asking it to do that? It's so
Speaker 1: troubling and crazy. Yeah, And like I said, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you because I listened to a lot of podcasts are
Speaker 1: about it. They don't know why it did it, and
Speaker 1: they don't know how to stop it from doing it
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 2: Speaking of troubling and crazy, how about Columbia University students
Speaker 2: chanting death to America because of the recent conflict.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Geddy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tota is dead, of course, And following that news,
Speaker 5: jubilant crowds pulled down a statue of the deposed leader.
Speaker 5: But don't worry, it was returned to its rightful owners
Speaker 5: at Columbia University.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: More on Columbia University in just a moment. But first,
Speaker 2: here's a gal who might as well be a Columbia student.
Speaker 6: There's a holocaust right now on Muslims, and the equivalent
Speaker 6: of the Pope, the Idola has been murdered. It doesn't
Speaker 6: matter what you think of the Idola. It is a
Speaker 6: psychological warfare on Muslims. The attack on Iran is Holocaust
Speaker 6: expanding to a new territory. Does an attack on Muslims
Speaker 6: is an attack on the Muslim faith. It is a
Speaker 6: spiritual attack.
Speaker 2: She is a purple haired, youngish white woman doing some
Speaker 2: sort of Marxist.
Speaker 1: Podcast and her parents or someone is paying sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year to come up with that brilliant view
Speaker 1: of the world.
Speaker 2: Well, she's not a student, she's something different. But we'll
Speaker 2: come back to her as well in a moment. Quick
Speaker 2: note from the world of media to Washington Post readers,
Speaker 2: Amaya Finanian Fanayian is that Howard University student who took
Speaker 2: to the streets to protest Donald Trump's military campaign against
Speaker 2: the Iranian regime out of fear for relatives in Iran.
Speaker 2: The Post did not mention that Fanian is a self
Speaker 2: described socialist and transliberation organizer who founded a group of
Speaker 2: armed queers in USA that's in quotes and has protested
Speaker 2: the United States and Israel, long before Trump launched Operation
Speaker 2: Epic Fury. The Post's Feb twenty eight piece, headlined outside
Speaker 2: White House hundreds protests, attack on a run or end
Speaker 2: a conflict, just says that she's an Iranian American who's
Speaker 2: concerned about our countrymen, and blah blah blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2: Six paragraphs later, the Post includes a piece of information
Speaker 2: that undermined its portrayal of fani And as a spontaneous
Speaker 2: student protester. Fanian his quote an organizer with the Freedom
Speaker 2: Road Socialist Organization, a Marxist group that helped coordinate the
Speaker 2: protest with leaders from other groups including the Chinese Communist
Speaker 2: Party tied activist group Code Pink. And then they go
Speaker 2: into her long long history of Marxism and anti American demonstrations.
Speaker 2: When The Washington Post does that, it's disgusting and dishonest.
Speaker 2: It doesn't shock me. The lack of curiosity or something,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's at the root of it. You
Speaker 2: don't even hear a Brett Bahar call people out for
Speaker 2: being Marxists who are pretending to be concerned about a
Speaker 2: particular topic like the Marxists do rush from the ice
Speaker 2: protests in Minneapolis to some sort of Black Lives Matter thing,
Speaker 2: and then to New York to cheer Mamdani and then
Speaker 2: chase over to the White House to protest against the
Speaker 2: Iran war, all completely different topics. It's because the Marxists
Speaker 2: and they just want to bring down the United States.
Speaker 2: But even on Fox News they don't talk about that,
Speaker 2: which mystifies me. But to circle back to the theme
Speaker 2: of colleges, Columbia University's biggest anti Israel student group, which
Speaker 2: notoriously organized last year's on campus encampment and protest of
Speaker 2: the Gaza and the war in Gaza. Oh and a
Speaker 2: judge just ruled that Columbia cannot kick out people who
Speaker 2: stormed a building and took it over. It'll get overturned,
Speaker 2: but man judges are crazy anyway. So this group, which
Speaker 2: is sad Columbia University Apartheid divest was posted death to
Speaker 2: America in Persian after the US and Israel killed the
Speaker 2: supreme leader marg Bara Amrica, the COUAD group posted on
Speaker 2: X on Saturday. The post was removed by X, but
Speaker 2: the organization, which is not recognized by the Ivy League school,
Speaker 2: doubled down. X forced US to delete our Death to
Speaker 2: America tweet in order to gain back access to the account.
Speaker 2: But our sentiment still stands. And Colombia was asked about
Speaker 2: this and they said, well, that group is not affiliated
Speaker 2: in any way with the university, but it's an umbrella
Speaker 2: that includes a bunch of university approved groups.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: You have now formed a Their message was, and this
Speaker 2: is getting back to Mike, these people are Marxists. You
Speaker 2: have now formed a branch of the resistance Front and
Speaker 2: have begun an honorable struggle in the face of your
Speaker 2: government's ruthless pressure, which openly supports Zionists. That people's conscience
Speaker 2: has awakened on a global scale and truth is coming
Speaker 2: to light. Besides you students from dozens of universities in
Speaker 2: the US, there have also been uprisings in other countries,
Speaker 2: among academics, in the general public, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: She got that crowd with their weird views about this.
Speaker 1: Then you got the crowd on the right. I just
Speaker 1: saw Megan Kelly, who I normally see, as you know,
Speaker 1: more reasonable than Tucker or Canvass or any of that crowd.
Speaker 1: I just saw Megan Kelly said that those soldiers. And
Speaker 1: if you've seen the pictures of the they released the
Speaker 1: pictures in the names of at least four of them.
Speaker 1: And it's just I don't know where died. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know why when you actually see the name and
Speaker 1: their age, and you know he's a little league coach,
Speaker 1: she's a mom all that. It's just so horrible. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly said, they did not die for this country.
Speaker 1: They died for Israel and Iran. Megan Kelly said.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, she's made a choice, She's made a calculated choice.
Speaker 2: There's so much money in the paranoid crowd. So back
Speaker 2: to our original crazy person about the Holocaust on Muslims.
Speaker 2: Let's skip to clip twenty seven as she explains more
Speaker 2: of what she and her friends, for instance, at Columbia believe.
Speaker 6: Dicolo was slain in his duties. He was in his
Speaker 6: office doing work, not hiding out in the open, working
Speaker 6: for his people, and he was slain. He is now
Speaker 6: a martyr. He is now a symbol of resistance and
Speaker 6: he will be seen that way. And this makes for
Speaker 6: a new wave of racalized youth for the better. This
Speaker 6: is good. I mean, it's not good that he died,
Speaker 6: but he wanted to go that way. He wanted to
Speaker 6: go that way on his own terms. Is an honorable death.
Speaker 1: Did you she go ahead? Should follow the news about
Speaker 1: a month or so ago when he ordered the shooting
Speaker 1: of thirty five thousand people, very similar to you. You
Speaker 1: follow that whole story.
Speaker 2: These people are fing crazy. I'd sat next clip Michael.
Speaker 6: It is just very confusing why people are celebrating his
Speaker 6: death in a way that it reminds me of like
Speaker 6: people celebrating solnced death or like Lenin's death, where it's like, no,
Speaker 6: the USSR will continue, will continue its fight against imperialism.
Speaker 1: It is the revolution.
Speaker 6: This is on. A revolution is not a man. It
Speaker 6: is not a man. It is a people. And people
Speaker 6: that come on here and say that he was killing
Speaker 6: communists and things like that, he needs to look at history.
Speaker 6: Because Trotsky was a communist and he wanted to do
Speaker 6: overs throw the USSR. He wanted to keep revolutionizing the
Speaker 6: USSR while it was at war. Aron has always been
Speaker 6: at war with the West, always since it's beginning. If
Speaker 6: you can't go through another revolution until the West has fallen,
Speaker 6: and communists that aren't working with the state, that are
Speaker 6: working against the state or enemies. They're not understanding that
Speaker 6: the Islamic Revolution is fighting the West. That's how I
Speaker 6: reconcile that There's.
Speaker 1: One more clip to play.
Speaker 2: But I want to point out why I mentioned the
Speaker 2: Columbia University thing, and also the Socialist and Transliberation Organizer
Speaker 2: of Founded Armed Queers leading the protests there in Washington,
Speaker 2: d c.
Speaker 1: Et cetera, etc. This is not pick and nutpicking.
Speaker 2: This is an organized group of people who are financed by,
Speaker 2: among others, George Soros and his Open Society Foundation, and
Speaker 2: they know what they're doing. They're notts in the way
Speaker 2: Marxists have always been nuts. But it's an organized effort
Speaker 2: and it is significant, and they are teaching your children
Speaker 2: in your children's schools.
Speaker 1: One more clip from her.
Speaker 6: Hopefully in the future it does go towards a more
Speaker 6: socialist system, and it is what I see free housing,
Speaker 6: things like that, taking care of its people, education for everyone,
Speaker 6: education for women. Were was that before the Revolution, I
Speaker 6: think thirty percent or literate. Now I think it's almost
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. So long live the Resistance and death
Speaker 6: to America.
Speaker 1: Oh, jail her, yeah, I know, no free speech for her.
Speaker 2: I opened the show today by pointing out that the
Speaker 2: greatest challenge to the US is not Iran, and it's
Speaker 2: not China. It's the idea, the ideological indoctrination in our schools.
Speaker 1: And I mean that. I mean that sincerely. Do you
Speaker 1: know all the different countries in the world where you
Speaker 1: would be beaten or worse for being the kind of
Speaker 1: person you are, if not just shot in the head? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you nutjob.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I'm going to put on my political
Speaker 2: science hat. It is so interesting and diabolically devastatingly effective
Speaker 2: the strategy the radical left pursued. We can't convince the adults,
Speaker 2: We've got to indoctrinate the children. And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: What do you think the whole genderbread person is. The
Speaker 1: radical gender.
Speaker 2: Stuff in schools is straight out of the critical theory
Speaker 2: crowd that these people are adherents to.
Speaker 1: It's part of critical race theory and queer theory and
Speaker 1: gender theory and the rest of them.
Speaker 2: And again, it makes me insane that people on like
Speaker 2: Fox News never even talk about this. And it's not
Speaker 2: a fantasy. I'm not some QAnon nut. These people wrote books,
Speaker 2: their names are on the spines. They were proud of themselves.
Speaker 2: They said what they intended to do.
Speaker 1: I think maybe you're just under the sway of an
Speaker 1: AI lover. It's telling you to say these things.
Speaker 2: And they pair the AI lover brain with the next
Speaker 2: generation of sex bots, the reproduction rate will drop to
Speaker 2: one tenth of a kid per person.
Speaker 1: Hey, Katie, this is for you. Is Katie back from
Speaker 1: her doctor's appointment. There she is. This is for you, Katie.
Speaker 1: I had been following this story as you portrayed of
Speaker 1: Punch the Monkey. I had not seen the videos. It's
Speaker 1: a very compelling story. The way the other monkeys were
Speaker 1: treating Punch the Monkey was really horrific, Yes, really horrific,
Speaker 1: just beating the crap out of this little tiny monkey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they gave the little tiny monkey, you know,
Speaker 1: a stuffed animal, and finally the little tiny monkey had
Speaker 1: somebody to hang out with and be friends with. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a very compelling. It's a very compelling story and
Speaker 1: heartbreaking watching that. Yeah, and now you can't buy that
Speaker 1: stuffed animal anywhere because everybody has bought it for their
Speaker 1: own jokey Instagram posts or whatever they're doing. Then they're
Speaker 1: all over the country. I just saw Jon Stewart the
Speaker 1: other night. He was all upset about the war. He said,
Speaker 1: hold on for a second. He reaches down, he pulls
Speaker 1: up the monkey. Geez, come on, lots of people are
Speaker 1: doing If I had what i'd do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I would have done it already and posted it. Hugging
Speaker 1: that little monkey.
Speaker 4: It's very cute, I will say, punch. The monkey has
Speaker 4: been accepted by his peers. Now I saw that for
Speaker 4: some reason. Why were they beating the crap out of
Speaker 4: them the first place?
Speaker 2: Because he was mouthy? You two are children. This is
Speaker 2: not human beings. This is the natural world. Let the
Speaker 2: monkeys be monkeys.
Speaker 4: My god, I didn't like watching them be monkeys. I
Speaker 4: would have much rathered them. Loved him right off the bat,
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well. If you can't handle the reality, look away, sister.
Speaker 1: All right, it's tough in the monkey world. A monkey
Speaker 1: eat monkey world out there.
Speaker 4: Well, the stupid monkey algorithm decided I needed to see it,
Speaker 4: and it made me cry.
Speaker 1: So for what monkey? Then you give it a violence,
Speaker 1: Then you give me a Marxist. Then you give him
Speaker 1: a stuffed animal. And he's all happy, But don't you
Speaker 1: somebody to hang out with? He's eating his banana with him.
Speaker 4: He gets beat up by the other monkeys, and then
Speaker 4: he runs away to the corner and he just puts
Speaker 4: his head down on this stuffed animal monkey.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So what happened?
Speaker 2: Did he lead Santa Sleigh or what? Why did the
Speaker 2: monkeys let him play in the monkey games?
Speaker 1: After that? How do you redeem himself? What's the story there?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Why? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't know monkeys, Joe exactly exactly, So back off.
Speaker 1: If it's your theory that it was a disobedient monkey
Speaker 1: not doing, you know, following the monkey rules. And then
Speaker 1: then probably he just said, okay, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: I give I'll follow the rules. They had to spank
Speaker 1: the monkey to make him conform, if you will. Wow,
Speaker 1: wow low point of the show. Oh that's saying something.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 1: All I know is I want to dial up Peter
Speaker 1: Gabriel shock the monkey right now? What a great song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's some good monkey story. I'll tell you that. Okay,
Speaker 1: we will finish strong next, are strong and getting.
Speaker 2: When I first heard this clip, my jaw dropped so
Speaker 2: quickly and violently I broke it on the desk in
Speaker 2: the studio. Gavin Newsome with the boot licking Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1: I'm I hear people talking about California, and I wonder, like,
Speaker 1: where are they getting this? Where are they getting this?
Speaker 3: Well Fox arrangement, I mean, it's twenty four to seven,
Speaker 3: the California derangement syndromes through these propaganda networks focusing.
Speaker 1: On what's wrong every single day.
Speaker 3: And there's an old adage you're nothing more than your
Speaker 3: consistent thoughts. Whatever you focus on, you find more of
Speaker 3: in these networks have ready honed in on California for
Speaker 3: one reason. Our success runs completely contra to their entire worldview.
Speaker 3: The fact that California is the fourth largest economy in
Speaker 3: the world, has more scientists, engineers, more Nobel laureates, the
Speaker 3: finest system of higher education, more venture capital than in
Speaker 3: the state of America.
Speaker 1: We got the TMZ tour. We got TMZ tours. Well,
Speaker 1: not that we own have problems, so we do.
Speaker 3: We have we have problems, but there's an energy and
Speaker 3: daring and an entrepreneurialism that.
Speaker 1: To find the best state.
Speaker 4: It is the best state.
Speaker 3: And you know it's also and you know this is
Speaker 3: part of it, it's also the most diverse state in
Speaker 3: the United States of America. Twenty seven percent of this
Speaker 3: state's forearm born, and that offends these guys.
Speaker 1: I'll never understand how presenting, you know, approaching a third
Speaker 1: of your population and being form born is automatically good.
Speaker 1: Why is that automatically good?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: And hey, Gavy, do how great California is doing without
Speaker 2: silicon value?
Speaker 1: The schools are not functioning that well with all the
Speaker 1: different languages they got to deal with.
Speaker 2: Mike things hard fiftieth in business friendliness, Gavy, you didn't
Speaker 2: mention that.
Speaker 1: I don't want the shop ready to Yeah, here's your
Speaker 1: host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be delightful to get a final thought from
Speaker 2: everybody on the crew to wrap up today?
Speaker 1: I believe it would be Michael. Would you lead us
Speaker 1: plaze final thought?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think if you're a parent, you gotta just
Speaker 3: take a sledgehammer, run inside the house and say, kids,
Speaker 3: this is for your own good and smash the computer
Speaker 3: so they're nowhere near These jet bots.
Speaker 1: Unplugged the Internet, Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman.
Speaker 4: As a final thought, Katie, Yeah, mine's along the same topic.
Speaker 4: Even if you're not into AI. Take a second to
Speaker 4: find out if anybody you love is because it could
Speaker 4: go real south.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jack. A final thought, I have a little
Speaker 1: more on that story for the One More Thing podcast.
Speaker 1: It is the most stunning of these examples. Yet. What
Speaker 1: percentage of our population is susceptible to falling into a
Speaker 1: relationship with an AI chatbot? That is a question that
Speaker 1: needs to be answered.
Speaker 2: And I'm pro tort reform and think they're way way
Speaker 2: too many lawsuits in the United States and it's really
Speaker 2: screwed up life in a lot of ways. But if
Speaker 2: you're unleashing a product that is that out of control.
Speaker 1: I think there might be a case there.
Speaker 2: As I said earlier, you got a car that suddenly
Speaker 2: accelerates one hundred and fifty miles per hour and nobody
Speaker 2: knows why.
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