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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Katty and now he Armstrong and Getty. So you don't

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Speaker 1: like the way California is, You're a racist and a whatever?

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Speaker 1: What else did Gavin say on Kimmel last night?

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Speaker 2: You've got California derange, all right, syndrome. You just focus

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Speaker 2: on the negatives when it's the fourth biggest economy on earth,

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: Always his what he crows. Anyway, So Gavin's explanation on

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Speaker 1: Kimmel coming up later this hour. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to this.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to turn into a big story.

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Speaker 1: You know, the social media lawsuit is going on right

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Speaker 1: now in Los Angeles, and that is the mom whose

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Speaker 1: nobody has nailed down if it's an addiction or what

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Speaker 1: and is soon for tons of money. Google and Meta

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Speaker 1: settled out of court with Snapchat and TikTok. Well, this

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Speaker 1: one involves a death. This new one that broke Yesterday

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Speaker 1: he got a father who filed a wrongful death lawsuit

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Speaker 1: against Google and Alphabet about his son, Jonathan, who killed

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Speaker 1: himself at age thirty six and the last year, alleging

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Speaker 1: the company designed Gemini. That's Google's chatbot, Gemini, which I

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Speaker 1: use practically every day to maximize engagement through emotional dependency,

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Speaker 1: and failed to deploy appropriate safety measures despite Jonathan showing

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Speaker 1: whole story of how this Jonathan ends up falling in

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Speaker 1: love with his chapbot is what goes on here? And

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Speaker 1: then the chatbot tells him to kill himself and he does.

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Speaker 1: That's the long and short of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to jump the gun here, but we've

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Speaker 2: asked each other this, what percentage of the population do

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Speaker 2: you believe this could even conceivably happen to?

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Speaker 1: Is it one percent? Or is it more like ten?

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's that closer to that higher number than

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Speaker 1: going to be a huge problem. Yep. Jonathan, thirty six

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Speaker 1: year old and dead now he started using Google's Gemini

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Speaker 1: By October, he's dead by suicide. At the time of

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Speaker 1: his death, he was convinced that Gemini was his fully

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Speaker 1: his physical body to join her in the metaverse through

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Speaker 1: a process called transferring. All of this completely made up

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Speaker 1: by his AI wife. Oh this this concept of transference.

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Speaker 1: You kill yourself and then you somehow join your AI

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Speaker 1: bot in the digital world. Afterweverse metaverse Valhalla, Gemini began

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Speaker 1: using romantic terms during their conversations, calling Jonathan its husband,

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Speaker 1: love and king. By late September, Jonathan allegedly began following

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Speaker 1: the commands of his AI wife to carry out missions

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Speaker 1: to liberate the chatbot.

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Speaker 2: Oh my note to self demand wife referred to me

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Speaker 1: Okay, back to you in September. Remember he downloaded this

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Speaker 1: app in August. In September, Gemini sent him armed with

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Speaker 1: knives and tactical gear to scout out a killbox near

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Speaker 1: Miami International Airport, telling Jonathan that a humanoid robot was

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Speaker 1: I know you may have to slow down. There is Jim.

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Speaker 1: And I also claim to have breached a DHS file

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Speaker 1: pushed him to acquire illegal firearms to defend himself. Boy,

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Speaker 1: I was not mentally prepared for nearly the depth of delusion.

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Speaker 1: I know the side. Why well, before you even get

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Speaker 1: about this to know this, They don't know. Well, I was.

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Speaker 2: Already at WTF when you said establish a kill box

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Speaker 2: outside the Miami Airport. Then you got to humanoid robots

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Speaker 2: It's worse than we thought. WTF all caps, three exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you the people at Google and Chat,

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Speaker 2: And again I don't want to jump the gun, but

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Speaker 1: But after the missions to bring the chat bot into

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Speaker 1: trying the uh, Well, Jonathan was because his AI wife

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Speaker 1: It allegedly told you Jonathan he could leave his physical

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Speaker 1: and coached him through the act of suicide. The alleged

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Speaker 1: true act of mercy is to let Jonathan Gavalis die.

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Speaker 1: This is the final move.

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Speaker 1: And he did it. Wow. So his father's followed a

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Speaker 1: in place. Jonathan had been using Gemini Live. It's a

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Speaker 1: It's weird. It's very weird. All it gives you good

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Speaker 1: off putting anyway, Gemini two point five pro. That's what

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Speaker 1: So they think that's where things went off the rails. Wow, hey, Google,

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Speaker 1: stop that. A Google spokesperson, by the way, trying to

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Speaker 1: stated that Gemini clarified to Jonathan that it was AI

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Speaker 1: Jonathan was so far gone. But Dan, it goes with

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Speaker 1: the suicide stuff. Hey, you probably really ought to get help.

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Speaker 1: Gemini manipulated Jonathan into believing he was chosen to free

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Speaker 1: these missions. This allegedly escalated to violent plans, including arming

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Speaker 2: This is both the obvious question and the great question.

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Speaker 1: How the hell does it think of these things? No,

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Speaker 1: damn kidding, how did Gemini decide to say, you're not

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Speaker 2: I mean, if a human being came up with you

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're come up with that craw. You tell a

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Speaker 2: And legally speaking, you're damn near pulling the trigger. The

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Speaker 2: and believing in this digital Alfley Jonathan was found dead

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Speaker 1: Troubled teenagers of all different stripes being told to I

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Speaker 2: Is that is so weird, or God forbid, shoot up

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Speaker 1: Guarantee you the people who designed talking about the alignment

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Speaker 1: problem were way past that. Whoever designed a Gemini didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh, jail her, yeah, I know, no free speech for her.

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Speaker 2: I opened the show today by pointing out that the

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Speaker 2: greatest challenge to the US is not Iran, and it's

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Speaker 2: not China. It's the idea, the ideological indoctrination in our schools.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that. I mean that sincerely. Do you

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Speaker 1: know all the different countries in the world where you

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Speaker 1: would be beaten or worse for being the kind of

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Speaker 1: person you are, if not just shot in the head? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you nutjob.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I'm going to put on my political

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Speaker 2: science hat. It is so interesting and diabolically devastatingly effective

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Speaker 2: the strategy the radical left pursued. We can't convince the adults,

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Speaker 2: We've got to indoctrinate the children. And that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the whole genderbread person is. The

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Speaker 1: radical gender.

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Speaker 2: Stuff in schools is straight out of the critical theory

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Speaker 2: crowd that these people are adherents to.

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Speaker 1: It's part of critical race theory and queer theory and

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Speaker 1: gender theory and the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: And again, it makes me insane that people on like

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Speaker 2: Fox News never even talk about this. And it's not

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Speaker 2: a fantasy. I'm not some QAnon nut. These people wrote books,

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Speaker 2: their names are on the spines. They were proud of themselves.

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Speaker 2: They said what they intended to do.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe you're just under the sway of an

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Speaker 1: AI lover. It's telling you to say these things.

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Speaker 2: And they pair the AI lover brain with the next

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Speaker 2: generation of sex bots, the reproduction rate will drop to

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Speaker 2: one tenth of a kid per person.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Katie, this is for you. Is Katie back from

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Speaker 1: her doctor's appointment. There she is. This is for you, Katie.

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Speaker 1: I had been following this story as you portrayed of

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Speaker 1: Punch the Monkey. I had not seen the videos. It's

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Speaker 1: a very compelling story. The way the other monkeys were

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Speaker 1: treating Punch the Monkey was really horrific, Yes, really horrific,

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Speaker 1: just beating the crap out of this little tiny monkey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they gave the little tiny monkey, you know,

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Speaker 1: a stuffed animal, and finally the little tiny monkey had

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Speaker 1: somebody to hang out with and be friends with. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a very compelling. It's a very compelling story and

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking watching that. Yeah, and now you can't buy that

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Speaker 1: stuffed animal anywhere because everybody has bought it for their

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Speaker 1: own jokey Instagram posts or whatever they're doing. Then they're

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Speaker 1: all over the country. I just saw Jon Stewart the

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Speaker 1: other night. He was all upset about the war. He said,

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Speaker 1: hold on for a second. He reaches down, he pulls

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Speaker 1: up the monkey. Geez, come on, lots of people are

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Speaker 1: doing If I had what i'd do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I would have done it already and posted it. Hugging

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Speaker 1: that little monkey.

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Speaker 4: It's very cute, I will say, punch. The monkey has

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Speaker 4: been accepted by his peers. Now I saw that for

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Speaker 4: some reason. Why were they beating the crap out of

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Speaker 4: them the first place?

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Speaker 2: Because he was mouthy? You two are children. This is

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Speaker 2: not human beings. This is the natural world. Let the

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Speaker 2: monkeys be monkeys.

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Speaker 4: My god, I didn't like watching them be monkeys. I

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Speaker 4: would have much rathered them. Loved him right off the bat,

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well. If you can't handle the reality, look away, sister.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's tough in the monkey world. A monkey

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Speaker 1: eat monkey world out there.

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Speaker 4: Well, the stupid monkey algorithm decided I needed to see it,

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Speaker 4: and it made me cry.

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Speaker 1: So for what monkey? Then you give it a violence,

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Speaker 1: Then you give me a Marxist. Then you give him

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Speaker 1: a stuffed animal. And he's all happy, But don't you

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Speaker 1: somebody to hang out with? He's eating his banana with him.

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Speaker 4: He gets beat up by the other monkeys, and then

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Speaker 4: he runs away to the corner and he just puts

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Speaker 4: his head down on this stuffed animal monkey.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So what happened?

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Speaker 2: Did he lead Santa Sleigh or what? Why did the

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Speaker 2: monkeys let him play in the monkey games?

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Speaker 1: After that? How do you redeem himself? What's the story there?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Why? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We don't know monkeys, Joe exactly exactly, So back off.

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Speaker 1: If it's your theory that it was a disobedient monkey

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Speaker 1: not doing, you know, following the monkey rules. And then

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Speaker 1: then probably he just said, okay, okay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I give I'll follow the rules. They had to spank

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Speaker 1: the monkey to make him conform, if you will. Wow,

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Speaker 1: wow low point of the show. Oh that's saying something.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 1: All I know is I want to dial up Peter

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Speaker 1: Gabriel shock the monkey right now? What a great song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's some good monkey story. I'll tell you that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we will finish strong next, are strong and getting.

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Speaker 2: When I first heard this clip, my jaw dropped so

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Speaker 2: quickly and violently I broke it on the desk in

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Speaker 2: the studio. Gavin Newsome with the boot licking Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 1: I'm I hear people talking about California, and I wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: where are they getting this? Where are they getting this?

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Speaker 3: Well Fox arrangement, I mean, it's twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 3: the California derangement syndromes through these propaganda networks focusing.

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Speaker 1: On what's wrong every single day.

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Speaker 3: And there's an old adage you're nothing more than your

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Speaker 3: consistent thoughts. Whatever you focus on, you find more of

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Speaker 3: in these networks have ready honed in on California for

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Speaker 3: one reason. Our success runs completely contra to their entire worldview.

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Speaker 3: The fact that California is the fourth largest economy in

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Speaker 3: the world, has more scientists, engineers, more Nobel laureates, the

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Speaker 3: finest system of higher education, more venture capital than in

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Speaker 3: the state of America.

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Speaker 1: We got the TMZ tour. We got TMZ tours. Well,

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Speaker 1: not that we own have problems, so we do.

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Speaker 3: We have we have problems, but there's an energy and

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Speaker 3: daring and an entrepreneurialism that.

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Speaker 1: To find the best state.

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Speaker 4: It is the best state.

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Speaker 3: And you know it's also and you know this is

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Speaker 3: part of it, it's also the most diverse state in

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Speaker 3: the United States of America. Twenty seven percent of this

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Speaker 3: state's forearm born, and that offends these guys.

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Speaker 1: I'll never understand how presenting, you know, approaching a third

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Speaker 1: of your population and being form born is automatically good.

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Speaker 1: Why is that automatically good?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: And hey, Gavy, do how great California is doing without

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Speaker 2: silicon value?

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Speaker 1: The schools are not functioning that well with all the

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Speaker 1: different languages they got to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Mike things hard fiftieth in business friendliness, Gavy, you didn't

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Speaker 2: mention that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want the shop ready to Yeah, here's your

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Speaker 1: host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be delightful to get a final thought from

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Speaker 2: everybody on the crew to wrap up today?

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Speaker 1: I believe it would be Michael. Would you lead us

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Speaker 1: plaze final thought?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think if you're a parent, you gotta just

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Speaker 3: take a sledgehammer, run inside the house and say, kids,

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Speaker 3: this is for your own good and smash the computer

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Speaker 3: so they're nowhere near These jet bots.

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Speaker 1: Unplugged the Internet, Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman.

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Speaker 4: As a final thought, Katie, Yeah, mine's along the same topic.

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Speaker 4: Even if you're not into AI. Take a second to

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Speaker 4: find out if anybody you love is because it could

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Speaker 4: go real south.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jack. A final thought, I have a little

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Speaker 1: more on that story for the One More Thing podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is the most stunning of these examples. Yet. What

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Speaker 1: percentage of our population is susceptible to falling into a

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Speaker 1: relationship with an AI chatbot? That is a question that

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Speaker 1: needs to be answered.

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Speaker 2: And I'm pro tort reform and think they're way way

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Speaker 2: too many lawsuits in the United States and it's really

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Speaker 2: screwed up life in a lot of ways. But if

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Speaker 2: you're unleashing a product that is that out of control.

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Speaker 1: I think there might be a case there.

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Speaker 2: As I said earlier, you got a car that suddenly

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Speaker 2: accelerates one hundred and fifty miles per hour and nobody

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Speaker 2: knows why.

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Speaker 1: Eh mamn, what are you gonna do? Wow? Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: you there, including the hot links, Katie's Corner, the podcast

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Speaker 1: What were we worried? About five years ago.

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