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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in What's Driving Nigart Episode two thirty eight jam

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<v Speaker 2>Back Show. Today, we have a conference finals. We are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a new champion. For the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of the NBA, there is not in

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<v Speaker 2>the final four a single person who has ever won

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<v Speaker 2>a league MVP. It's the first time we've ever had

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<v Speaker 2>a conference finals that does not have someone who has

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<v Speaker 2>already won a league MVP. It's almost like maybe we've

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<v Speaker 2>been giving those MVPs up to the wrong person. But listen,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the games. Demonse's here. I'm fresh off a trip from

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. Who's great to see you. A bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. I surprised Demons at work. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much he appreciated that. I also think there's probably

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<v Speaker 2>some weird inner office politics he has to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>when I come in. But that's fine. I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>making a few other people feel a little uncomfortable at

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<v Speaker 2>times if need be. But it was great to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>We shared two outstanding meals, A nice little crawfish feast

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's not really the season, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some great dumplings, so that was wonderful. I played in

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<v Speaker 2>a poker tournament. We'll see if we have time to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that. But we've got to get to Nugget Simberwolves.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get to what missed the cut. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>what is not in today's show. The NBA All Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>team being announced. Don't care. These other two things I

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<v Speaker 2>do care about. Actually, Thursday's show is gonna be an

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<v Speaker 2>odd one because I haven't wanted to. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss the Harrison Butker thing in you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>a small SoundBite, and then the Schefler thing happens. And

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<v Speaker 2>so Thursday's show, we're gonna talk about the cops and

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Bucker. Just letting you guys know right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be a little bit of a different show. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a good show. But that's what we're doing on Thursday. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Please America, do not buy into the stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>inaccurate headlines that Red Lobster American institution. It went belly

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<v Speaker 2>up because of endless Shrimp. They went belly up for

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<v Speaker 2>the same reason. Countless of our institutions have gone belly up.

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<v Speaker 2>They got bought and stripped clean by private equity. Private

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<v Speaker 2>equity bought Red Lobster, then bought the land that the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Lobster stores were on, then leased the land back

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<v Speaker 2>to Red Lobster at an exorbitant rate. They couldn't service

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<v Speaker 2>the debt, they couldn't pay for it, and now Chaterbay

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<v Speaker 2>Biscuits are gone. That's what happened, Demanse. Somehow just slid

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<v Speaker 2>off the screen. I don't know what's going on, And

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<v Speaker 2>in that regard, I do see timberwolves there. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>was on purpose, Demanse. Let's get to the actual show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh he's back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Bell all right, So a classic two by you.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver was bounced by Minnesota and had the largest blown

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<v Speaker 3>lead in a Game seven in history. You're celebrating like

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<v Speaker 3>you nailed the series or like Denver didn't get Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get win the skin of your teeth. Sorry, but uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't even make a pick, So go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>take your victory lap. I know there's gonna be plenty

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<v Speaker 3>you got to talk about with Jokicchen, probably even Lebron somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna put thirty five minutes up on the

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<v Speaker 3>clock for this topic alone, and the fans will be

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<v Speaker 3>able to vote on the side if you'll make the

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<v Speaker 3>time or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you're gonna be thirty five minutes to discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>Under over to be specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry guys, Okay, yeah, so people can vote in the chat.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this wasn't a classic two by me because you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't pick. I didn't make a pick in the series,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when I did, I think I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>saying nuggets in seven at the very end. And so no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get credit for this series pick. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am not going to do anything unfair or untoward when

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<v Speaker 2>discussing one of the biggest collapses in NBA history. What

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to do is give a fair appraisal

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened, and the Timberwolves obviously deserve credit, and

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<v Speaker 2>so let me give that on the front end. But

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<v Speaker 2>as often happens in sports, the bigger story is the loser,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly because we're gonna have more time to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the winner. And listen, I haven't bought so much into

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<v Speaker 2>the Anthony Edwards Michael Jordan comparisons. But if this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to be, you know, pretty damn inefficient

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<v Speaker 2>in a massive spot and then get all the credit

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<v Speaker 2>for the win, maybe he's more like Jordan than I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my goodness, gracious, But in seriousness, Anthony Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>finding a way to put his imprint on the game

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<v Speaker 2>despite being six of twenty four is what great players do.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as biggest game seven comebacks, on that list

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<v Speaker 2>is some iconic games biggest second half game seven comebacks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the biggest by far, twenty points in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half. But on that list are the twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand Timberwolves, I'm sorry, Blazers, Lakers, the game that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of culminated in the Kobe to Shaq lob and then

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe Shack running up the court pointing at Kobe. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the two thousand Blazers. Shaq and Kobe came back

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<v Speaker 2>there another game in the Western Armens Finals. Another Game

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<v Speaker 2>seven comeback was the twenty ten NBA Finals Celtics Lakers,

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<v Speaker 2>where Kobe was exactly six of twenty four like Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Edwards was, but added fifteen rebounds. Ron Ard tests now

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<v Speaker 2>a world piece, hit the huge three and the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>get that title. I so Anthony Edwards was not the

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<v Speaker 2>star of this game, but never lost his confidence. The

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<v Speaker 2>two guys on the timberwlf side of things that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give massive credit to are two guys that

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<v Speaker 2>I have been very critical of. First one is Rudy Gobert,

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<v Speaker 2>and unlike Draymond Green, just because I've been critical of

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<v Speaker 2>Gobert in the past, I'm not going to be dishonest

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<v Speaker 2>about his impact. He in these playoffs has the best

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<v Speaker 2>plus minus differential of any player in this series. The

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<v Speaker 2>Timberwolves crushed when he was on the court and side

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<v Speaker 2>from Game two got crushed when he was off the court.

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<v Speaker 2>In this series. His ability to roam, which is his

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<v Speaker 2>defensive assignment allowed for them to shut off the water forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone butt joker. And this idea that all, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're the defensive player of the year, you have it

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<v Speaker 2>is your responsibility to shut down the best offensive player

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<v Speaker 2>in the league is belied by history. A fun fact

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And again, I have been critical of Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>Gobert in the past because of his playoff deficiencies. They

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<v Speaker 2>did not show up here. There are not many four

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<v Speaker 2>time defensive player of the years. Rudy go Bear is

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. Another one is to Kimba Mutumbo. To

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<v Speaker 2>Kimba Mutumbo once in the NBA Finals had to play

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<v Speaker 2>the best player in the league, Shaquille O'Neal. In those finals,

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<v Speaker 2>what did four time Defensive Player of the Year to

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<v Speaker 2>Kenbe Mutumble hold Shaquille O'Neal to. The answer is nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't hold him to anything. Shack averaged third v

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<v Speaker 2>three sixteen and five on fifty seven percent shooting. Also

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that the defensive player of the year must

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<v Speaker 2>have an ego where I am going to abandon what

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<v Speaker 2>my team wants me to do. Instead, I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to guard the other guy's best player. Draymond knows better

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<v Speaker 2>than that because in every damn Finals he played Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't guard Lebron James. Andre Iguidala won Finals MVP

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<v Speaker 2>for holding Lebron James to thirty six, thirteen and nine

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<v Speaker 2>for the series because the Warriors defense was unlocked by

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond guarding the other team's worst player and roaming, the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing the Timberwolves do with Rudy, So shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Rudy. The other guy is Cat Kat, who I

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<v Speaker 2>have considered a good stats, bad team guy, not a winner,

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<v Speaker 2>not committed defensively, kept them in this game in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half when Anthony Edwards had nothing, when Rudy was

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<v Speaker 2>fumbling with the ball. There were multiple times when it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like the Nuggets were gonna blow it open, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was one possession in particular, the Nuggets had just

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<v Speaker 2>gone up fifteen late second quarter and Cat hit a

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<v Speaker 2>three to cut it to twelve. Cat, also, because of

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<v Speaker 2>his strength, was able to do something so that when

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers played the Nuggets, the Lakers had Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 2>doing what Rudy does, or they tried that multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>You roam, but then Ruey had to do what Cat did,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you guard Djokich. The problem is when Jokisch

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<v Speaker 2>would back into Rudy, Rudy would get knocked backwards five feet.

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<v Speaker 2>When Jokis knocked into Cat, Cat stood his ground and

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<v Speaker 2>was able to stype a bit. Now, again, Jokic was

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal in games four and five and was I thought good,

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<v Speaker 2>not great, but good in Game seven. But Karl Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Towns kept them in this game, played solid defense, winning basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So those guys get credit, no question about it. They

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<v Speaker 2>get credit. And now we get to have what will

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<v Speaker 2>go down as one of the greatest series in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 2>From a talking perspective between Luca and Ant, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to be in multiple languages, It is

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<v Speaker 2>going to involve snarls, It is going to involve I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine bad breath. I can't wait for it. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk more about that later when we talk Luca. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we do need to do the Nuggets piece of this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a historic collapse. There is no way around that.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no out for that, there is no excuse

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<v Speaker 2>for that. You are the defending champions up three to

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<v Speaker 2>two against a team with no history, no pedigree, no champions.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the only guy on this team who had

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<v Speaker 2>played in a single game bigger than every game of

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<v Speaker 2>this series was Mike Conley a decade ago. And once

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<v Speaker 2>you go up three to two with a fully healthy team,

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<v Speaker 2>and that part's important, you're down by fifty fifty in

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<v Speaker 2>Game six and you lose Game seven at home despite

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<v Speaker 2>being up fifteen at halftime in twenty in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nuggets starting lineup Demonse going into this series had

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<v Speaker 2>lost two games ever against Western Conference teams in that building. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>when it's Jamaal MPJ, Gordon Jokic KCP, that's starting five

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<v Speaker 2>at home against the West playoffs and regular season combined,

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<v Speaker 2>had lost twice. Ever, they lost three times in this series,

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<v Speaker 2>including a historic collapse in a Game seven at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So how and why does that happen? Go ahead, Demonse,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to jump in rule it's the history.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much more history the Nuggets have

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<v Speaker 3>then the Timberwolves. I guess. I guess they won the

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<v Speaker 3>finals last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're a defending champion. That's the history. The

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<v Speaker 2>history is the right now, they're the defending champion. Every

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<v Speaker 2>single guy playing for the Nuggets played in games, uh

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<v Speaker 2>bigger games eleven months ago. Zero guys playing for the

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<v Speaker 2>Timberwolves except for Mike Conley, had ever played in a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger game in their career. They were at home, they

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<v Speaker 2>had a lead, and this was not a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>the other team gets red hot and runs away in hides. No,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what makes the collapse harder to swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>This game was a possession game the bulk of the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, and the Nuggets did not have answers. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Timberwolves go on the great run at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the third quarter to cut a twenty point lead

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<v Speaker 2>to a nineteen point lead. They then take a three

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<v Speaker 2>point lead early in the fourth quarter. Michael Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 2>hits the one shot he hits seemingly the whole game

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<v Speaker 2>to tie the game at seventy seventy to a piece.

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<v Speaker 2>They then just don't have answers. They have opportunity after opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and their possessions go like this. Joker missed three, and

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<v Speaker 2>Joker shot twenty six point four percent from three this postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a weakness for him this postseason. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't miss. This year, he couldn't hit it. That

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six point four percent, by the way, is the

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<v Speaker 2>exact to the tenth of a percentage that Lebron actually

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<v Speaker 2>shot from three last postseason when folks were speculating should

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<v Speaker 2>they give Lebron the Dylan Brooks treatment Darren to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>great players go cold from three. At times it happens,

0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:15.840
<v Speaker 2>but it hurt them. Jokic misses a three next Denver possession,

0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Michael Porter misses a three, next Denver possession, Jokic hits

0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.920
<v Speaker 2>his one three, I think one of his two threes

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<v Speaker 2>for the game. Now again eight minutes left, down two.

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<v Speaker 2>The next possession is when Rudy hit the turnaround and

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<v Speaker 2>you're down four. That then led to a Aaron Gordon

0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:41.120
<v Speaker 2>miss layup, followed by an Aaron Gordon turnover. Joker, however,

0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.040
<v Speaker 2>follows that up with his other made three of the game,

0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and again you're down just three points and they just

0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:54.480
<v Speaker 2>can't connect. Mpj misses a three, Joker misses, gets his

0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.760
<v Speaker 2>shot blocked, and then when Jamal makes a couple plays

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and again you're down it goes Joker miss lay up, turnover,

0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Jamal Joker miss three, and all of a sudden you're

0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.200
<v Speaker 2>down ten and Anthony Edwards is mother effing that old

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 2>man in the crowd and it's good night, good luck.

0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So so so, how did you get here? So what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>And how rare is this? And what do you do

0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.560
<v Speaker 2>moving forward? Those are the questions for Denver. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start with how rare is this? Because right now,

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<v Speaker 2>what everyone's saying, oh man, six different champion in the

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>last six years, this is the new NBA. Not really,

0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 2>So how rare is it for a whole defending champion

0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that is healthy to get not follow up their title

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 2>defense with anything. Well, we can go through it, guys,

0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and we can go all the way back to nineteen eighty.

0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 2>The eighties are very simple to go through. The Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>were in it at you know, won three titles, went

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.679
<v Speaker 2>to five finals. The Lakers won five titles, went to

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.160
<v Speaker 2>eight finals. In the eighties. The Sixers didn't defend their

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 2>title well, but it was their fourth trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>finals that was kind of their last stand. The Pistons

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously went to three straight finals, one two. The Bulls

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<v Speaker 2>defended their title every year that Michael Jordan's started the

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 2>year with the team. The Rockets won a title and

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<v Speaker 2>defended it. Right, So now we're through the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineties, the Spurs won a title and then

0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 2>ran into the Lakers repeatedly. The Lakers win three. The

0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Spurs then, you know, win another one. On the back

0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>end of that. The Pistons win a title and then

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the finals the very next year in

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<v Speaker 2>a game seven. The Heat did not defend their title

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<v Speaker 2>well at all, and it's a kind of a weird

0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 2>spot for them. You can say Shack got old, but

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 2>he played another like four years that. The Shack d

0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Wade Heat did not defend their title well at all.

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 2>The Celtics win, the Spurs obviously won five total titles.

0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:30.399
<v Speaker 2>The Spurs, I'm sorry. The Celtics go in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, they're injured in or win in two thousand

0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and eight, they're injured in O nine, they're back there

0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 2>in a game seven NBA Finals in twenty ten, the

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Lakers win a title and defend it, win another one.

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<v Speaker 2>The MAVs twenty eleven win that title and don't defend

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it at all, And it's kind of a weird one, right. Obviously,

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the Heat win two, the Spurs win their last one.

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.159
<v Speaker 2>We then have the Warriors go on their run. The Calves,

0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 2>how do they defend their title? They go back to

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the NBA Final and then we get to this weird era, right,

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>But over the last forty years, there was the four

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>heat where it's like, what the hell happened that four?

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Pardon me? The six heat, like, what the hell happened there?

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 2>The twenty eleven Maps, okay, twenty nineteen Raptors, they didn't

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 2>defend their title at all. Kawhi Leonard left. The twenty

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty Lakers, they didn't defend their title at all. Anthony

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Davis injured in the playoffs. The twenty twenty one Bucks,

0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.439
<v Speaker 2>they didn't defend their title at all. Chris Middleton injured

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.119
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, misses all of round two. The twenty

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty two Warriors, they didn't defend their title at all.

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.640
<v Speaker 2>What happened? Will Draymond Green punched one of his teammates

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 2>and the season went to hell from the beginning. The

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three Nuggets didn't defend their title at all.

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 2>What happened, Well, that's the question. What happened? Was it injuries?

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>No? You think the Bucks was a little weird. They

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<v Speaker 3>still had Giannis. I guess they they lost Chris Middleton,

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.320
<v Speaker 3>but they still had The best player was considered to

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<v Speaker 3>be the best player at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there was. But we know what happened, We

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>know what their second best player was out and they

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 2>lost in They lost in round like there is a

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you can say they shouldn't have lost it. And by

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the way, I'm we can pause on the Bucks thing

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>because I'm good with a lot of these Bucks conversations.

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to have them. But I still think at

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:33.439
<v Speaker 2>least they had a you can say the Bucks looked

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 2>like the overwhelming favorite. Chris Middleton gets injured early in

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Round one and does not come back and they end

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 2>up losing in seven to Boston. If Jamal Murray had

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 2>missed the last ten games for the Nuggets, it does

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>feel differently. Flatly, it does. And so the question is

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:08.119
<v Speaker 2>what happened? Why were they not good enough? And I

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>know folks are gonna expect right now that I'm gonna

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 2>hang this on Jokic. I'm not Jokic. Was Jokic. Game

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 2>four and five by Jokic in this series were as

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:28.199
<v Speaker 2>close to perfect offensive basketball as one can play. And

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Game seven he was good. I don't think he was

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>great I alway, but I thought he was good in

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>game set exactly right, exactly right. The so, but here

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 2>is what I am So. What happened was, in my opinion,

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 2>was nothing happened. This is about what is supposed to

0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 2>happen for any team in league history that is not

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 2>either a legendary all time dynastic team or any team

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have one of the seven or eight best

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 2>players in the history of the sport on it. This

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>is how it can go. You won a title, it

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:29.719
<v Speaker 2>was unbelievable, you were the deserving champion. But you're not

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a dynasty. And the questions all of a sudden are

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>about to get a lot harder because when you look

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>at the Nuggets moving forward, what are they going to

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 2>do with KCP who is a pending free agent assuming

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 2>he opts out. You desperately need him. Are you going

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to pay him? Because you weren't able to keep Bruce Brown,

0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 2>and Bruce Brown if he weren't playing in these playoffs,

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe you win. You missed him. Michael Porter Junior is

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 2>on the books for thirty five million, thirty eight million,

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>forty one million. Is that the best use of that money?

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon has a player option after next season. You

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>desperately need him he's making twenty five million a year,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>and Jamal Murray, you have to extend this off season.

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>And then you have to delicately gently say, hey, Jamal,

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>if for the first time in your career, you could

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 2>come into a season in shape rather than play yourself

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>into shape, it would be helpful, it would. I mean,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like man, Jamal Murray, he just goes to this

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>different level in the playoffs, Like well, he goes to

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>a different level by the end of the season because

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>he's a peak condition. He's at his peak playing shape

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and caught up to him a bit this year, and

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>so it gets hard and it gets tough, and that's

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>why sports are great. But it's also why and now

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I will circle back around. It's also why so much

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of the commentary and the accolades about this team always

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 2>felt like we were two steps ahead of reality. It

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 2>always felt like we were trying to press fast forward

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>on eras and places in history and throwing terms around

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>like better than a chema lajauan. And I just wanted

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>us to wait a beat. I just wanted us to no, definitively,

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the simple question of is Nikoi Jokic forget where he

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 2>is in history, Is he the best player of his

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 2>own era? Because I don't know the answer to that.

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I do not know who is going to be better

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>him or Yannis. And let's see how this next month

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 2>goes and whether or not my guy Luka really throws

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>himself in that conversation. Because right now, Jokichiannis are One

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>is forty three and thirty six in the playoffs. One

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>is forty four and thirty six in the playoffs. One

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>has three MVPs, One has two MVPs and one Defensive

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Player of the Year. They One has two conference finals appearances.

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 2>One has two conference finals appearances. One defended their title

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 2>by losing in seven in round two, the other defended

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>their title by losing in seven in round two. Both

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>guys had epic all time championship runs culminating in brilliant

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>NBA finals, and one guy hasn't been close to being

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>back there since. The other guy. We'll see. Yannis has

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 2>six All NBA caliber seasons, Jokicic has five. Yannis has

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>five First Team All nbas Jokich has three. Right now

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>on the pyramid, on the lists, they've gotta be neck

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and neck, and I am not gonna sit here and

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>kill Joker for them not defending their title, just like

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't sit here and kill Yannis for him not

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>defending for them not defending theirs. But let's just take

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a beat on the anointing and on the greatest offensive

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>player we've ever seen. Stuff, Just a breath, And let's

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 2>also remember for the guys in that upper upper crust

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>they lived in late May and early June, after a

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>ton of long seasons, Magic went to nine finals. Kareem

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 2>went to ten, Brons been to ten, Steph has been

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to six, Shack went to six, Kobe went to seven. Okay,

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Duncan went to six. Anybody Bird went to five, Jordan

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>went to obviously six. Russell I know it's you know,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't we don't talk about Russell. Russell went to twelve, okay,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Wilt went to five. Let's those guys that we are

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>so quick to elbow out of the Dream who I

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't mention Dream went to three. Doctor j who we

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>throw out went to four in the NBA, two in

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the ABA. So that's six. Durant, who has been just

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>cast aside entirely for Jokic, entirely. Durant has been to four. Well,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>one with the Thunder, three with the Warriors. So because

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Duran Durant got took the Thunder there when he was

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. So again right, long time ago. So let's

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>just all I'm asking Dirk, now, Dirk, Dirk's to me

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>a guy jokich is has ascended past, but it's not

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>not miles apart. Dirk went to two one one one

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>league one a single league MVP for him as opposed

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 2>to three for Joker. But so, and this is why

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the MVP stuff, I must admit, does me just a

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>bit well, because so much of the commentary around this

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>player in this team would have been more measured and

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>would make more sense if he was, as he probably

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>should be, a two time MVP. It's like, okay, then

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>we can have a real conversation like Durant versus Joker.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>One's got one, MVP one has two, but he did this,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Dirk versus Joker one is one, MVP one is two,

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>but he did this, and I'd have a Joker added

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Dirk those things. But it's the those the premature MVPs

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>on the front end and now the deserved ones on

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the back end. Add it to where it's like, well,

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the guy does have the same number of MVPs as

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, and and so what are

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>we talking about here? He does have as many as Durant,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Shaq and Kobe combined. So what are we doing here?

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>And I all I want is an accurate reading of

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the story. And the story here is Joker was good

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>enough for his team to advance, his teammates were not.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And I also think Jamal Murray and Michael Malone needed

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a reality check, both of them. Both

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 2>of those guys, while excellent, had been living in a

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>luxury penthouse paid for by their best friend. And while

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, listen, they kicked in and they helped and

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>they were good at what they did. Both of those

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>guys started, in my opinion, carrying themselves as is, as

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>if it was a Big Three situation when it was

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>more yet that the Street band. What do you mean,

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>what's unfair to tell me?

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's hitting game winners, he carries a little

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>when he needs to. I think being a little like

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 3>to the to the Denver, I think you might be

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>be being a little unfair to the surrounding cast because

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 3>they had a bad game seven. I get that, but

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 3>they did get it to a game seven after going

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 3>down oh to from home, and it's like those guys,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 3>those guys.

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Go to a home how did that?

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, wait a second, how did they fall down

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 2>o to at home? Were they not? Were they absent

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>from those games? Part of the reason they were in

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 2>the hole? And then hold on, you said, I'm being

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 2>unfair to Jamal Murray. Tell me the mate again. I'm

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>going to keep up with this. Be honest. You's a

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>bucket conversation. Okay, tell me. Tell me the massive distinguishing

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>factor between Jamal Murray and Chris Middleton. I want to

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>know it because I saw Chris Middleton hit game winners

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. I saw Chris Middleton be an awesome,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>awesome robin to a clear cup batman. I saw all

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of it. What I didn't see was Chris Middleton handle

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the adversity the way Jamal did. I didn't see that.

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>And what I didn't see from Coach Bud was him

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 2>the Finally, it's like, oh kind of deal. I didn't

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>see Coach Bud when they won Preen the way I

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>saw Michael Malone, and I didn't see Coach Bud when

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they lost throw a tantrum. I didn't see those things,

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and so what I I am not saying again, Jamal

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Murray is as good as any player in NBA history

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>to never be an All Star. He's probably the best

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>ever in that group. So that's kind of a it's

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>like being it's a weird category to be in. But

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 2>he is an excellent number two who had a rough postseason.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, but there there was a level of, to me, unearned.

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if arrogance is the right word, but

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>stature that I felt. I felt Joker every step of

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 2>this journey. Once Joker became super high profile, I didn't listen.

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Joker early in his career got thrown out of a

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>playoff game because of nasty flagrant and the shoven on

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the Morris twin in the back. I didn't love as

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Since Joker has been face of the league adjacent,

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>he has conducted every step perfectly, perfectly. They tried debate

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>him in the postgame into saying Denver was the better team.

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't do it. He was like, no, we play

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a seven game series, we lose. That means they're the

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 2>better team. So I either I've got no I've got

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>no arrows for him because he doesn't deserve any arrows.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Have some arrows. A lot of my joker angst is

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>really media criticism, is really talking less about him and

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 2>more about my colleagues that I think were so in

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 2>such a rush to press fast forward on something they

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't let it play out. And a little bit of

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 2>almost Yannis protectionism, because I thought Yannis Yannas scored fifty

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>points to win a championship. The next year, looks like

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna win it again. He doesn't have his robin

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>for the playoffs, they lose, and then all of a

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>sudden people are like, well, Yannis is great, but you

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, if you need a bucket, can

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>you count on him? I'm like, I don't know. The

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>guy averaged forty two points a game for the final

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>five games of a finals, Like, I think you can

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 2>count on it. So there was a little bit of that,

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I will admit, where I felt like one guy was

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 2>being elevated way ahead of the other. But these are

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>real questions now. And if you're the Nuggets, how strong

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 2>of a position are you in moving forward? That's a

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>real question too. Because I watched these playoffs, and Christian

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Brown is fine but doesn't want to shoot and can't shoot,

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and that could be a problem. Peyton Watson eliminated from

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the rotation justin Holidays thirty four years old. Now we'll

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>see what Nause and Strawther and these young guys who

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>got no playoff run whatsoever, what they evolve into. But

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>life comes at you fast in this league, man, and

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>that team is about to be a second Apron, super

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>expensive team that when you get down to brass tax

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>on this to Monsey. The question they have to ask

0:37:55.239 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>themselves is this, it's really only one question for the offseason. Well,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's two. One is do we want to

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, overpay to keep KCP. The answer that is

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>probably yes, you have to. But the other question is this,

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 2>are we shopping Michael Porter Jr. Can we turn his

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty five million dollars into something better? That's the question

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to ask themselves, because am I ready

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to say, like, oh, this team can't you know, they've

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 2>hit their sailing, they can't win. Of course I'm not

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>ready to say that.

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Like they were, like you can say, I feel like

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you get some good stuff for MPG.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's gotta be yes, and I think

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>you could. I also think it's a unique spot because

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't shown the ability to create off the bounce

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>at all, right, and so and he's a lack of

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>daisical defender. So he's super valuable in certain like they

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>have two guys in MPJ and Aaron Gordon who might

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>be more valuable to them than to almost anyone else.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Like Aaron Gordon would never be more valuable to any

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 2>team in the league. Dan the one he's on with Denver.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>You know you don't have to run a single play

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>for him. He's gonna guard the other team's best wing.

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>He's got no you know he's gonna do the dirty work,

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 2>add toughness, right, huge asset for them specifically. Now that

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean there's no other team like that, but they're

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>at the top of the list, and that was a

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>great trade they made in acquiring him MBJ. Again, like,

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>you need to find the right fit and it needs

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to be a team that can have one of their

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>wings never need the ball. I mean the team that

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine would love to have him as the Suns,

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>not they could use them at all, but because they

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.280
<v Speaker 2>just want the same version. They just want worse version,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 2>market type on down the list. But uh, and so

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>they My point is it's real questions. They have demons,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it's real questions.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 3>So I've got a question for you. So Denver losing

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to Minnesota, this say is how how are the Lakers

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 3>looking at this point? Doesn't that make them look even worse?

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 3>And then you also say they've got like a top five,

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 3>top ten change the game type of guy and they

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>play the Nuggets and they lose, and okay, bad?

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Who wait? When did what do you mean a top five,

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>top ten change the game type of guy?

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Top ten Lebron Lebron? You were saying that he was

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 3>like one of the guys that still impacts the game

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 3>on a super heavy level, and then ended up getting

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 3>a he got the gentleman sweep. Yeah.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Lakers would have lost to the

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Nuggets with with peak Lebron. I think that. I don't.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think I

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>saw I saw Pete Lebron uh dominate the league for

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>a decade. No, I don't think they would have lost.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think right now the Lakers have one of

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>those guys. They obviously don't. They have the oldest player

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>in the league. And it's here's the thing that folks

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I think get frustrated by when it comes to trying

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>to troll me on basketball things. I don't give a

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 2>shit about the Lakers. I am not a Lakers fan.

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.959
<v Speaker 2>Lakers fans mostly don't like me because of the old

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Kobe stuff. I have no loyalty to the Lakers. I

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 2>am a basketball fan, and Lebron James is my favorite player. Ever,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>nothing would make me happier than Lebron leaving that organization

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that is run like the family Dollar Like I don't so.

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, does it mean the Lakers were further from

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 2>a championship, Sure, but it's also one of the reasons

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>why nobody in their right mind was picking the Lakers

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>to win the championship, even when I picked them to

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 2>beat the Nuggets. I had the MAVs winning the championship

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see how that one turns out. But yeah,

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't care. I'm not and I'm also

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>not really trying to do the transitive property of series.

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the story though, But go ahead,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 2>if you have more questions. Maybe ones that don't annoy

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 2>me as much as that one.

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead. Yeah, so you got mad at the producers

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>for the Chiefs Denver comparisons. But it seems like that

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>could still be true if and the Tea Wolves equal

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 2>So here's the problem with a number of those things,

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of those Mahomes and comparisons, and this is the or

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs comparisons. So Patrick Mahomes is twenty eight years old,

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and he has his three championships and has been to

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>four Super Bowls, the equivalent of the NBA Finals and

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>six conference finals. Nikolajokich is older than Patrick Mahomes. He's

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:20.839
<v Speaker 2>older than it. So it's not like, oh, they're on

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the track the Chiefs were on The Chiefs were on

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that track when my guy was twenty three years old.

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>So if we want to retroactive, be like, oh, last

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 2>year was the Nuggets twenty nineteen year and this year

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>is their twenty twelve. In fact, no, also, that's not

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>even the history of it. The Chiefs followed up their

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>first championship by getting back to the championship, is what

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>they did. The Borough thing happened to the following year

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and then they won two straight. So no those and

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>also will that is where I'll get irritated. Patrick Mahomes

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>at worst, at worst is going to finish as the

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>second greatest player in the history of his sport. They're

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 2>not in the same grouping guys. They're not. And so

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 2>again it's like that. It's it is not fair to Joker,

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not fair to anyone with an IQ over seventy.

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not fair to people who appreciate the games. To

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>compare these two, one is already a minted dynasty, the

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>other has won one title. That's okay, that's where that's

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 2>where we're at, and that's fair. That's fine. The if

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you want to right now, the far better comp for

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the if we want to go cross sport, the far

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>better for the Nuggets is the Rams won a championship

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 2>banner hangs forever, had a very disappointing championship defense, and

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 2>then is trying to get back to that place. And

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>last year I thought the Rams could have But and

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>this is the last thing I'll say on this, but

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>then I'll move on. Man, you don't wanna waste the

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 2>healthy seasons. And this is where the Nuggets maybe got

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>unlucky already. Maybe the Nuggets feeling is our championship window

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 2>was cracking open in the bubble when we made those

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>conference finals, when we had the back to back three

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to one comebacks against Utah and the Clippers made the

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.240
<v Speaker 2>conference finals, get cracked by the Lakers, and then Jamal

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Murray got hurt and two of our contention years were

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.919
<v Speaker 2>ruined by Jamal Murray's injury, which is probably accurate, right,

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And now we've had two that the next two years

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 2>when we've been fully healthy we had we won a

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 2>title and then we you know, blew the biggest lead

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>in the history of a Game seven at home. And

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the point I'm making is this team doesn't have the

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 2>depth in order to deal with somebody's spraining an ankle

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and missing three weeks of the playoffs, and and they

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have the luxury the Celtics have, which is we

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>could lose a guy like Kristaps Porzingis and it doesn't

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:52.240
<v Speaker 2>matter because our path to the finals is so laid

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:57.959
<v Speaker 2>out for us. The West is gonna be brutal every year,

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and some hard financial realities are coming for the Denver Nuggets,

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see all they respond, but defending your title

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>by getting fifty balld in a closeout game and then

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>blowing the biggest game seven lead in the history of

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the sport. It's on the resume. It's not the first

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 2>thing on the resume, but it's it's before the old

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 2>story continues on page A seven part of the resume.

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>It's on there. How long did how long did we go?

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Demanse went forty.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Three, So it's it's mirrored for me, So uh okay,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean we went for it. I bet the kid's

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 3>college fun. On the over, where do I collect my winnings?

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Fifty seven percent said over those fifty seven percent were winners.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Take quick break, talk about the other series, What's Right?

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Wright episode two

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.959
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. Again a reminder, and it's a reminder because

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting I'm saying it multiple times because I sometimes

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I say I'm gonna talk about something on the pod

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm just like, I don't have the energy.

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a heavy topic, but I'm pot committing

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>myself to it. Thursday show, I'm gonna use what Happened

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:32.919
<v Speaker 2>with Scottie Scheffler, pardon me, thank you, And we're gonna

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about the cops. And also we

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 2>haven't had a pod since Butcker's comments at the graduation

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 2>because we didn't have a pod last Thursday, so we'll

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 2>talk a bit about that as well. So we'll do

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>both of those things. Speaking of, by the way, the

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs and an off season that has been you know,

0:48:55.280 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 2>not without some news blotter this front on Football Talk.

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>The photographer who said initially that Rashi Rice hit him

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 2>at the club, evidently the photographer wants the chargers dropped.

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So that was a weird one where the initial allegation

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 2>was that Rashid texted the guy come back to the club,

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the guy came back to the club and he clocked

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>him in the face. But then the next day the

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>owner of the club was like, yeah because the yeah,

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 2>so it was it wasn't like paparazzi photographer. It was

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 2>like club photo, you know what I mean, if you're

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 2>out a nightclub and they have like the person who

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 2>does it for like the club's social media something like that.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 2>It was more that type of thing. I guess, yeah,

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 2>because at first when you hear allegedly hit a photographer.

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 2>You think it's one of those things like walk into

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>your car, someone taking a picture, you push the camera.

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the image at least I had in my head.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>But then the allegation was this guy was working at

0:49:55.719 --> 0:50:00.720
<v Speaker 2>the working left, was texted told to come back, came back,

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and she hit him in the side of the face. Like, well,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty bad to see you're already in trouble. It's

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 2>pretty bad. But then the next day the owner of

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the club came out and said, none of this happened.

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>He said, I was there and I reviewed the videotape.

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 2>None of it happened. But then the police report came

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 2>out and the police report said the photographer had a

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>visible mark on his face, so seemingly something happened to him.

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it was an odd it was an

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 2>odd story to begin with. Now, according to uh I

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 2>think w or. Tom Pellisaro of NFL Media says that

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the man said there was a misunderstanding and he wants

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>any and all charges dropped. So that's not going to

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>go anywhere. I don't know what did or didn't happen.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. The thing is this, even if he

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>is one hundred percent innocent on this, okay, And this

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>is where I'm gonna you know what, I'm gonna ask

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 2>your opinion demons, and then we'll get back to the basketball.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 2>But there's a little breaking news on it. And I

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 2>get annoyed with people who think that there are.

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Something dress address for.

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's yeah. I mean it's like, guys,

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I do like you. The folks who say that they

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>they act as if one hundred percent of the content

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I produce is like the seven minutes of clips a week.

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 2>At first, things first puts out of you know what

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I said. I'm like, guys, there's been a lot of

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>dress that did not make it into your Twitter feed.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But but I so let me ask you this. If

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I sound like an old man here, if you think

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is reasonable, if you think you're honest

0:51:53.080 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 2>to god opinion okay, okay, if you're Rashi Rice and

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:06.439
<v Speaker 2>the street racing thing happened and is hanging over your

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 2>head from the moment that happens until the moment it

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>gets resolved. With the NFL and with uh the court system,

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't want I don't I don't want you at

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>clubs A club Yeah, is that a reasonable take in

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 2>your opinion?

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a reasonable take if you I think

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 3>the guy has the ability. I don't. It's a it's

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.839
<v Speaker 3>a weird one. But yeah, i'd say that's reasonable. Are

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.439
<v Speaker 3>you saying, like as a coach, Andy Reid front office whatever, Yeah,

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd say that's fair to to.

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 2>That I'm saying. I'm saying if if I were his dad,

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>if it were you, and you had made a big mistake,

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 2>that the consequence is we're pending for right that we

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 2>don't know how much trouble you're in, and within a

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 2>month you're like out partying. I am nervous even if

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 2>now and I think this is and I think my

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 2>stance on that is proven by this exact thing, because

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.959
<v Speaker 2>either within a month you were out partying and made

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 2>another egregious decision, or within a month you were out partying,

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>did absolutely nothing wrong and now get drawn into more controversy, you.

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean.

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Like the either way, it's kind of evidence of let's

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 2>just chill on the hanging out with our buddies in Dallas, Like,

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 2>let's just let's just chill a bit, man. And so yeah,

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>so there there's.

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 3>A super bowl Man having a good year.

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I know, but let yeah exactly all right, let's get

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to the back to the basketball, all right.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 3>So the Knicks players can finally get some rests. The

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 3>injuries were just too much. I think Josh Hart got injured,

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Og was injured, and then Brunson fracture his hand at

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the end there. So they have a sup They have

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>their superstar and Jalen Brunson in a good supporting cast

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of assets. So with that said, Lebron

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 3>James to the Knicks next year.

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 2>God, I'd love it. I mean, it would be awesome.

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna happen. Uh. I think it

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 2>is on the board, but not at all likely in

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the least. I think it's possible. I think you would

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 2>fill a massive need for them. They need another piece.

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>They obviously should spam the Sun's phone calling for Kevin Durant.

0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I understand a lot of folks want Mikhale Bridges because

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>he's the Nova guy and it at if I'm being honest,

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Knicks are in Mikale Bridges away

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 2>from being champions. I think, then you have this awesome roster,

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>but you don't have the guy. Well, listen, Jalen Brunson

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.319
<v Speaker 2>has made himself the guy. But if he's gonna be

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 2>your guy, you need a better number two than McHale Bridge, right, exactly.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I do want to talk about the injuries though, because

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I think people are being so intellectually dishonest about the

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 2>TIBs piece of it, which is folks are acting like

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 2>because of what the injuries were, that Tibbs playing his

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>guys these insane minutes has nothing to do with the injuries,

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and that just that defies the obvious logic and the

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 2>most basic point of this. Are you more likely to

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 2>suffer a basketball related injury when you're playing basketball or not?

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.720
<v Speaker 3>On the bitch, right, that's this area.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the people are like, oh, well, only Oge's

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 2>was an overuse injury. Yeah, but I And so this

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 2>was the analogy that I that I used on the

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 2>show that I'm going to use again. If I run

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a delivery business, okay, a courier business in New York City,

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and my business is known for working my guys incredibly

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:45.439
<v Speaker 2>long hours, having them run or do more deliveries than

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 2>any other company, and I don't give them water breaks,

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the year I've had, I've

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>lost ten couriers to injury or other and I'm like, well,

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 2>hold on the second guys. Only two of them was

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>dehydration exactly. The other seven got hit by cars or

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 2>turned an ankle. You can't say that's on me. It's like, well, no,

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 2>but they had more opportunities to get run over by

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 2>somebody on an ee bike because they were out in

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the streets more. There are more opportunities for these guys

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 2>to get hurt because of the minutes they're playing. And

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>if it to us, could take the TIBs and analogy further.

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 2>If every year I ran this business, around September, people

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>wrote articles like, oh my goodness, Nick's delivery business overachieving again.

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone said he couldn't hit these quotas with that number

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 2>of employees, but look what he's doing. And then every year,

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 2>by Christmas time, my customers are disappointed, and I'm like, well,

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 2>what do you want for me? All my guys are hurt,

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Like what do you want for Like, well, I don't know, Adjust. Adjust.

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I respect him as a coach, He's obviously an excellent coach.

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>He needs to tweak this one thing. Man, There is

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 2>every coach, they play their best players all the minutes.

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Do they get there without him playing the players the

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 3>way he does?

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 2>But I guess my point is, what is there? Do

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 2>they get to round two? Yeah? Maybe? Like this is

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>like this was not a you know, a historic run,

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and I like the Knicks, but you the this whole

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>thing of and we saw it with the We've seen

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 2>it throughout his career, and so I just I just

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:54.640
<v Speaker 2>chill a little bit, bro, especially when you you wouldn't

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 2>play Alex unless you had family members kidnapped, and then

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 2>you finally play him. Burg's like, I'm all right, i

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 2>might miss a few defensive rotations, but I'll help you out.

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just too much, all right, let's move on.

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 3>So your lard Slavinian Son has a chance to make

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 3>it to his first finals, but in the Timberwolves obviously

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.600
<v Speaker 3>stand in his way. So everybody's ready to crown ant.

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 3>But if Luca ends up winning this series, does it

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 3>belong to Luca?

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, winning this series, Winning this series won't give

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:32.959
<v Speaker 2>Luca the best player in the league crown. I don't

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>even know if winning the championship definitively will I think that.

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that if Luca wins the title, that crown

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 2>is up for grabs with Giannis and Luka and Jokic

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.800
<v Speaker 2>vying for it. Jokic, I think, is still in the

0:59:55.880 --> 1:00:00.479
<v Speaker 2>pole position fairly because yes they lost, but they didn't

1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:04.680
<v Speaker 2>lose because he no showed, So I don't think you can't.

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not just the guy who wins the title becomes

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the best player in the league. That's not how it works.

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>But it puts Luca in that territory. And I and

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>here's the other thing I want to say about Luca.

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:24.560
<v Speaker 2>The guy twice in his career has had an All

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Star ish teammate and both times made the conference finals.

1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 2>When Jalen Brunson was ascending, they go to the playoffs.

1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:37.520
<v Speaker 2>They make the conference finals. Last year was a bad year,

1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it, missed the playoffs, trade for Kyrie midyear.

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>This year, Kyrie, who's not even playing that great this postseason,

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:49.680
<v Speaker 2>they make the conference finals. Luca's played seven series playoff

1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 2>series in his career. Six of the seven were against

1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:56.919
<v Speaker 2>top nine defenses in the league that year, and now

1:00:56.920 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 2>they're playing the number one defense. He already has beaten

1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the number one seed twice. He's already just the tenth

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:11.040
<v Speaker 2>guy in NBA history to be the best player on

1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:14.840
<v Speaker 2>a multi time conference finalist before he turns twenty six

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>years old. Like, the guy's a legendary player, and I

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 2>think they can win the title.

1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, demanse you think he stops? Uh oh, yeah.

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 3>If Luca wins the finals, will he be the runaway

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:30.560
<v Speaker 3>MVP for next season?

1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's always in contention for it. I think he'll

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:35.880
<v Speaker 2>start with a lead.

1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But what was the other question you were gonna ask?

1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:42.800
<v Speaker 3>He stopped Jalen Brunson, Like, I feel like Jalen Brunson

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 3>left Dallas and immediately like sprouted. Do you think that

1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:48.959
<v Speaker 3>Luca was responsible for any of his.

1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:55.680
<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing on Jalen Brunson. So, I don't

1:01:55.880 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 2>the I think Jalen Brunson. What happened with him was

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:04.760
<v Speaker 2>he got way better as a player, right, So, Jalen

1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Brunson was Was he a second round pick or into

1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:11.760
<v Speaker 2>first round pick? I don't hold on. I gotta look.

1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't I think he was a second round pick,

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:19.240
<v Speaker 2>but I gotta look. So Jalen Brunson was an early

1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:25.680
<v Speaker 2>second round pick, Yes, and so his his first year

1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:27.640
<v Speaker 2>in the league. He was nine points a game. His

1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:30.400
<v Speaker 2>second year league, he was eight points a game. His

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 2>third year in the league he showed something was thirteen

1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:38.280
<v Speaker 2>points a game. And then that year, let me make

1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 2>sure I have this right, Yeah, that year in the

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:46.480
<v Speaker 2>playoffs was brutal. Was brutal, and wasn't really all that

1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:51.960
<v Speaker 2>playable in the playoffs. Uh, but you know what, Brutal's unfair.

1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:56.960
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't brutal. He Carlisle didn't trust him, is what

1:02:57.000 --> 1:03:01.040
<v Speaker 2>it was. He didn't get many opportunities. Sixteen minutes a

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:05.680
<v Speaker 2>game and eight points a game. So it's unfair to say.

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.160
<v Speaker 2>But it was a tough matchup for him against those Clippers,

1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.240
<v Speaker 2>and and the MAVs didn't pay him because of that.

1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:16.080
<v Speaker 2>And then the next year he ascended and in the

1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 2>postseason was twenty one a game after in the regular

1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:22.320
<v Speaker 2>season being sixteen a game. He's just gotten better and

1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.120
<v Speaker 2>better as a player. Now, would he have turned into

1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:30.160
<v Speaker 2>this alongside Luca, No, because they're No, because they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he But I think that's because of

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<v Speaker 2>the style of players they are. They both made the

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<v Speaker 2>ball so much right exactly, and so I don't but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Luca was holding him back. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he you know, he's a very undersized score first guard

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<v Speaker 2>that took a lot of time to develop. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see is that and we'll talk about is that?

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<v Speaker 3>What would you describe Kyrie? He's game ass because I

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<v Speaker 3>know he's been like shape shifting and playing different to

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<v Speaker 3>what they need. But what would you say? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm kind of is that not?

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<v Speaker 2>What is?

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<v Speaker 3>Slightly? It is?

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<v Speaker 2>Except Kyrie had those three years playing with Lebron, so

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<v Speaker 2>he learned how to be his best self alongside a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's going to have the ball in his hands

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<v Speaker 2>a ton And Kyrie's up more of a dead eye

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<v Speaker 2>shooter than Jalen and so you know, those two things

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But yeah, that's why I thought the Kyrie

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<v Speaker 2>Luka fit wasn't going to be a great one. And

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie's had to take a lesser role and Kyrie, to

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<v Speaker 2>his credit, man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's playing to it his well and his.

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<v Speaker 2>Maturity and leadership has been awesome. Like I really think Kyrie,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that post that the video when he was

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<v Speaker 2>with the Nets when I think that was a really devas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a really hard moment for him

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<v Speaker 2>because he was being accused of being anti Semitic, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and I said at the time and will

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<v Speaker 2>say it again, I don't think Kyrie is a hateful

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think hate is part of how he operates

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I think he can be stubborn and hard headed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that to this day. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie actually watched that two hour movie that the you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He posts a clip on Instagram. It turns out the

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<v Speaker 2>movie he's talking about, actually you know, paints Hitler in

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<v Speaker 2>a positive light. Kyrie's then asked about it because he's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of you know, an anti establishment. He's

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<v Speaker 2>more like, bleep you Yeah, I watched it, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe you know what, and then it's snowballs on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a bit of a scarring experience

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<v Speaker 2>sperience from him, and I think he grew because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that Kyrie trying to He clearly takes

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<v Speaker 2>being a leader, a cultural leader seriously, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that finally has he has matured to the point of

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<v Speaker 2>understanding so much of his ability to lead and to

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<v Speaker 2>impact communities financially and otherwise is generated from his brilliance

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<v Speaker 2>as a basketball player, and that was being put into

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<v Speaker 2>question because of you know that he was missing games

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<v Speaker 2>and wasn't on playoff runs and all those things. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a more committed defensive player than ever before.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's been more mature. I think he's been

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be like the wise elder. He's the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>star left in the playoffs at thirty one years old. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been super impressed by Kyrie, super impressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and will turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't even played great and despite that, the MAVs

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<v Speaker 2>find themselves in the conference finals.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, next, all right, so my Celtics continue this

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<v Speaker 3>treacherous path to the finals. They've got the Pacers up next,

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Open at minus twelve hundred favorites. Is it worth

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<v Speaker 3>watching or should I just tune in to June sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>For Game one of the finals? Yeah? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's worth watching.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're they're gonna give them, They're gonna give them

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<v Speaker 3>a game or two. I honestly think they might give

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<v Speaker 3>them too. I know they're gonna give them one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, it's hard to sweep. There's there's no there's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about that. It's hard to sweep.

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<v Speaker 3>I snatch up. Yeah, I know, it's the easiest sweep,

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<v Speaker 3>should possibly be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, And Pacer fans, I get why you're

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<v Speaker 2>annoyed at how Game seven was presented, because the game

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast should give each team equal time, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>But this isn't the game broadcast, this is my podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not interested in the Pacers. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm just not. I mean, shout out to Halliburton

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<v Speaker 2>for rallying in that series against the Knicks after a

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<v Speaker 2>really tough start to the series. They're a good story,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're multile interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>But they they had the most efficient shooting night and

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<v Speaker 3>a Game seven win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I'm happy for him, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't have any chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Something to look out for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to no, I'm I'm but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to pretend like they have a chance to win

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<v Speaker 2>the series.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the Celtics are going to be in the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll talk more about the Celtics as we get

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the finals. All right, Uh, we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm not gonna do the poker thing today because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to do it. We'll take quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>come back and answer a few questions next, What's right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Welcome back in what's right with Nick? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Demon say, let's get to a few listener

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<v Speaker 2>questions before I go.

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<v Speaker 3>Sham S reports the Lakers think that JJ Reddick has

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<v Speaker 3>pat Riley type pat Riley like potential. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>think of Lebron's sorry, sorry, the Lakers opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that the Lakers the thing they most

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<v Speaker 2>like about the idea of hiring JJ Reddick is it'll

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<v Speaker 2>create buzz and if it doesn't work out, they can

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<v Speaker 2>act like Lebron made them do it, when I know,

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<v Speaker 2>definitively for a fact, Lebron has not commented one time

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lakers about this coaching search. The Lakers are

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<v Speaker 2>a poorly run team that make a lot of their

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<v Speaker 2>decisions not based on what's the best possible decision, but

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<v Speaker 2>what's the decision that if it doesn't work out, we

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<v Speaker 2>can keep our jobs despite it. So that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not excited about the idea of the Lakers hiring

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<v Speaker 2>a first time head coach who's never even been an

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<v Speaker 2>NBA assistant. It's also why I hope Lebron James is

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<v Speaker 2>not on the Lakers next year, but I think he

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<v Speaker 2>will be next.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Murphy asked the Celtics gonna lose lose with non

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<v Speaker 3>Boston NBA fans. If they don't win, it'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>failed season. But if they do, it'll be chalked up

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<v Speaker 3>to an easy path against the injured week East. Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy ass, that's no question, like once a week now

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<v Speaker 3>the no.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing. Are you talking about the conference

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<v Speaker 2>finals or the finals? If they don't win the conference finals,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be a failed season. If they lose as

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<v Speaker 2>minus fourteen hundred favorites to the Pacers, it is a failure. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me make that clear now that you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the finals, I not lose lose if you win the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>If you win the championship, no one will care what

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<v Speaker 2>the path to the finals was. You will be playing

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<v Speaker 2>either Luca or Ant in the finals and if you win.

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<v Speaker 2>The way to make it not a lose lose is

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<v Speaker 2>to win. But if you make the finals through this

1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:26.639
<v Speaker 2>path and then get rolled by one of these two teams, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna say you know that you made the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But were you the fourth best team in the sport

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<v Speaker 2>that year? Where the MAVs, the Thunder, the Nuggets all

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<v Speaker 2>better than you, and that'll be a fair conversation. So

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<v Speaker 2>go win the championship and it's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Next, Bradley Hammond asked, can you give us a few

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<v Speaker 3>players whose future with their current team is most tied

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<v Speaker 3>to how the season ends? Might not even be a

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<v Speaker 3>player on the one one of the remaining teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you always have to include Jalen Brown because when

1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:02.839
<v Speaker 2>if the Celtics don't win the championship, his name always

1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:06.200
<v Speaker 2>comes up in trade conversations. So there's one Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what his future with the Suns is

1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:15.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be. Donovan Mitchell as well as far as

1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:19.800
<v Speaker 2>teams players on the remaining teams, No, Jalen Brown's the

1:12:19.840 --> 1:12:26.320
<v Speaker 2>only one. All right, Uh, let's go to Dylan Demase.

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan A. Dylan L. Nick. What historical NFL team is

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<v Speaker 3>your count for the Wolves so far these playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw that question. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 2>have a great answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Newton's like, sorry, well.

1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:48.000
<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad one. But that team was fifteen

1:12:48.040 --> 1:12:52.640
<v Speaker 2>and one and Cam was the league MVP. Uh, this

1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:55.920
<v Speaker 2>is like a team based on defense that seems to

1:12:55.960 --> 1:13:01.479
<v Speaker 2>be there early Russell Wilson Seahawks, is I answer? And

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<v Speaker 2>when in year two they win the whole thing? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and they beat uh Peyton, Manning and Denver. Oh, they

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<v Speaker 2>beat Denver in the Super Bowl. So off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head, Russell Wilson Seahawks, all right? Last one?

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<v Speaker 3>Genghis Khan asked Nick, what happens to your Scoot Henderson

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<v Speaker 3>over Wimby call?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bad rookie the year pick. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was, by the way, it was not a career

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<v Speaker 2>length call. It was it was it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>for that I picked Scoot to win Rookie of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year because I thought he was going to be more

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<v Speaker 2>NBA ready, and I thought Wimby might not play the

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<v Speaker 2>requisite games. But I clearly undervalued Wmby and clearly overvalued Scoot. Again, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>try to be like, ah, I got you, guys. If

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm wrong, it doesn't happen that often. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong, I admit it. The Scoot over the Category three?

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<v Speaker 3>What now I know that he's another Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>Wimby would be good with the Knicks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think every team. But why are you bringing

1:14:08.680 --> 1:14:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that up?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Because you were saying, like the Knicks that piece

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<v Speaker 3>that they're missing. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Prime Bill Russell would be good with the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not available. I mean r I P. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the I mean Wimby's not available. They could

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<v Speaker 2>offer the deed to Madison Square Garden. He's not available.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's a lot of guys that could. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Joker would be good with the Knicks. They should

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<v Speaker 2>call and see if they can get him.

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<v Speaker 3>They available.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sorry, I was ending the show and you

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<v Speaker 2>threw out. Do I think Wimby would be good with

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks? Yeah? I think Justin Jefferson be pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>with the Chiefs. I don't think they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get him. Sorry, pal, I don't mean to flame

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<v Speaker 2>you at the end, but there's you just threw that

1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.400
<v Speaker 2>out there. It's just a bad take. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be great with the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 3>They should call.

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<v Speaker 2>Go could tell world Wide West, you can call San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 2>see what if you'll take a couple future twoes. Demon's

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<v Speaker 2>a great job everyone, Great job, Daniel. Sorry your team

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being a one time champ. No problem with

1:15:09.760 --> 1:15:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that though, there's you still get to hang that banner.

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