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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Driving Nigart Episode two thirty eight jam

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Speaker 2: Back Show. Today, we have a conference finals. We are

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Speaker 2: going to have a new champion. For the first time

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Speaker 2: in the history of the NBA, there is not in

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Speaker 2: the final four a single person who has ever won

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Speaker 2: a conference finals that does not have someone who has

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Speaker 2: already won a league MVP. It's almost like maybe we've

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Speaker 2: been giving those MVPs up to the wrong person. But listen,

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Speaker 2: that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: the games. Demonse's here. I'm fresh off a trip from

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Who's great to see you. A bit of

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Speaker 2: a surprise. I surprised Demons at work. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much he appreciated that. I also think there's probably

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Speaker 2: making a few other people feel a little uncomfortable at

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Speaker 2: We shared two outstanding meals, A nice little crawfish feast

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Speaker 2: a poker tournament. We'll see if we have time to

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Speaker 2: get to that. But we've got to get to Nugget Simberwolves.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to what missed the cut. Here is

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Speaker 2: what is not in today's show. The NBA All Rookie

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Speaker 2: to discuss the Harrison Butker thing in you know, just

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Speaker 2: so Thursday's show, we're gonna talk about the cops and

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Speaker 2: be a good show. But that's what we're doing on Thursday. Also,

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Speaker 2: the Red Please America, do not buy into the stupid,

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Speaker 2: inaccurate headlines that Red Lobster American institution. It went belly

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Speaker 2: up because of endless Shrimp. They went belly up for

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Speaker 2: the same reason. Countless of our institutions have gone belly up.

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Speaker 2: They got bought and stripped clean by private equity. Private

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Speaker 2: to Red Lobster at an exorbitant rate. They couldn't service

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Speaker 2: Biscuits are gone. That's what happened, Demanse. Somehow just slid

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Speaker 2: in that regard, I do see timberwolves there. Maybe that

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Speaker 3: Thanks Bell all right, So a classic two by you.

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Speaker 3: Denver was bounced by Minnesota and had the largest blown

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Speaker 3: didn't get win the skin of your teeth. Sorry, but uh,

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Speaker 2: As far as biggest game seven comebacks, on that list

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Speaker 2: This is a historic collapse. There is no way around that.

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Speaker 2: when it's Jamaal MPJ, Gordon Jokic KCP, that's starting five

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Speaker 2: So how and why does that happen? Go ahead, Demonse,

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Speaker 2: if you want to jump in rule it's the history.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much more history the Nuggets have

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Speaker 2: What happened? Will Draymond Green punched one of his teammates

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Speaker 2: and Jamal Murray, you have to extend this off season.

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Speaker 2: And then you have to delicately gently say, hey, Jamal,

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Speaker 2: everyone's like man, Jamal Murray, he just goes to this

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Speaker 2: I will circle back around. It's also why so much

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Speaker 2: himself in that conversation. Because right now, Jokichiannis are One

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Speaker 2: six All NBA caliber seasons, Jokicic has five. Yannis has

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Speaker 2: five First Team All nbas Jokich has three. Right now

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Speaker 2: I didn't sit here and kill Yannis for him not

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Speaker 2: Duncan went to six. Anybody Bird went to five, Jordan

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Speaker 2: not miles apart. Dirk went to two one one one

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Speaker 2: would make more sense if he was, as he probably

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Speaker 2: One's got one, MVP one has two, but he did this,

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Speaker 2: the story. And the story here is Joker was good

424
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: enough for his team to advance, his teammates were not.

425
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: And I also think Jamal Murray and Michael Malone needed

426
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: a bit of a reality check, both of them. Both

427
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: of those guys, while excellent, had been living in a

428
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: luxury penthouse paid for by their best friend. And while

429
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, listen, they kicked in and they helped and

430
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: they were good at what they did. Both of those

431
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: guys started, in my opinion, carrying themselves as is, as

432
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: if it was a Big Three situation when it was

433
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: more yet that the Street band. What do you mean,

434
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: what's unfair to tell me?

435
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he's hitting game winners, he carries a little

436
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: when he needs to. I think being a little like

437
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: to the to the Denver, I think you might be

438
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: be being a little unfair to the surrounding cast because

439
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: they had a bad game seven. I get that, but

440
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: they did get it to a game seven after going

441
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: down oh to from home, and it's like those guys,

442
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: those guys.

443
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Go to a home how did that?

444
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: Wait?

445
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait a second, how did they fall down

446
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: o to at home? Were they not? Were they absent

447
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: from those games? Part of the reason they were in

448
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: the hole? And then hold on, you said, I'm being

449
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: unfair to Jamal Murray. Tell me the mate again. I'm

450
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: going to keep up with this. Be honest. You's a

451
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: bucket conversation. Okay, tell me. Tell me the massive distinguishing

452
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: factor between Jamal Murray and Chris Middleton. I want to

453
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: know it because I saw Chris Middleton hit game winners

454
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I saw Chris Middleton be an awesome,

455
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: awesome robin to a clear cup batman. I saw all

456
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: of it. What I didn't see was Chris Middleton handle

457
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: the adversity the way Jamal did. I didn't see that.

458
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: And what I didn't see from Coach Bud was him

459
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: the Finally, it's like, oh kind of deal. I didn't

460
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: see Coach Bud when they won Preen the way I

461
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: saw Michael Malone, and I didn't see Coach Bud when

462
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: they lost throw a tantrum. I didn't see those things,

463
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: and so what I I am not saying again, Jamal

464
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Murray is as good as any player in NBA history

465
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: to never be an All Star. He's probably the best

466
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: ever in that group. So that's kind of a it's

467
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: like being it's a weird category to be in. But

468
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: he is an excellent number two who had a rough postseason.

469
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: It's fine, but there there was a level of, to me, unearned.

470
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if arrogance is the right word, but

471
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: stature that I felt. I felt Joker every step of

472
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: this journey. Once Joker became super high profile, I didn't listen.

473
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: Joker early in his career got thrown out of a

474
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: playoff game because of nasty flagrant and the shoven on

475
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: the Morris twin in the back. I didn't love as

476
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: years ago. Since Joker has been face of the league adjacent,

477
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: he has conducted every step perfectly, perfectly. They tried debate

478
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: him in the postgame into saying Denver was the better team.

479
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: He wouldn't do it. He was like, no, we play

480
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: a seven game series, we lose. That means they're the

481
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: better team. So I either I've got no I've got

482
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: no arrows for him because he doesn't deserve any arrows.

483
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: Have some arrows. A lot of my joker angst is

484
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: really media criticism, is really talking less about him and

485
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: more about my colleagues that I think were so in

486
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: such a rush to press fast forward on something they

487
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: didn't let it play out. And a little bit of

488
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: almost Yannis protectionism, because I thought Yannis Yannas scored fifty

489
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: points to win a championship. The next year, looks like

490
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna win it again. He doesn't have his robin

491
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: for the playoffs, they lose, and then all of a

492
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: sudden people are like, well, Yannis is great, but you

493
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, if you need a bucket, can

494
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: you count on him? I'm like, I don't know. The

495
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: guy averaged forty two points a game for the final

496
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: five games of a finals, Like, I think you can

497
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: count on it. So there was a little bit of that,

498
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: I will admit, where I felt like one guy was

499
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: being elevated way ahead of the other. But these are

500
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: real questions now. And if you're the Nuggets, how strong

501
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: of a position are you in moving forward? That's a

502
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: real question too. Because I watched these playoffs, and Christian

503
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Brown is fine but doesn't want to shoot and can't shoot,

504
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: and that could be a problem. Peyton Watson eliminated from

505
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: the rotation justin Holidays thirty four years old. Now we'll

506
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: see what Nause and Strawther and these young guys who

507
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: got no playoff run whatsoever, what they evolve into. But

508
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: life comes at you fast in this league, man, and

509
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: that team is about to be a second Apron, super

510
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: expensive team that when you get down to brass tax

511
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: on this to Monsey. The question they have to ask

512
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: themselves is this, it's really only one question for the offseason. Well,

513
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: I guess it's two. One is do we want to

514
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: you know, overpay to keep KCP. The answer that is

515
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: probably yes, you have to. But the other question is this,

516
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: are we shopping Michael Porter Jr. Can we turn his

517
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 2: thirty five million dollars into something better? That's the question

518
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to ask themselves, because am I ready

519
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: to say, like, oh, this team can't you know, they've

520
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: hit their sailing, they can't win. Of course I'm not

521
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: ready to say that.

522
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: Like they were, like you can say, I feel like

523
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: you get some good stuff for MPG.

524
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gotta be yes, and I think

525
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: you could. I also think it's a unique spot because

526
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: he hasn't shown the ability to create off the bounce

527
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: at all, right, and so and he's a lack of

528
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: daisical defender. So he's super valuable in certain like they

529
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: have two guys in MPJ and Aaron Gordon who might

530
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: be more valuable to them than to almost anyone else.

531
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: Like Aaron Gordon would never be more valuable to any

532
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: team in the league. Dan the one he's on with Denver.

533
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: You know you don't have to run a single play

534
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: for him. He's gonna guard the other team's best wing.

535
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: He's got no you know he's gonna do the dirty work,

536
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: add toughness, right, huge asset for them specifically. Now that

537
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: doesn't mean there's no other team like that, but they're

538
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: at the top of the list, and that was a

539
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: great trade they made in acquiring him MBJ. Again, like,

540
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: you need to find the right fit and it needs

541
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: to be a team that can have one of their

542
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: wings never need the ball. I mean the team that

543
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: I would imagine would love to have him as the Suns,

544
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: not they could use them at all, but because they

545
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 2: just want the same version. They just want worse version,

546
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: market type on down the list. But uh, and so

547
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: they My point is it's real questions. They have demons,

548
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: it's real questions.

549
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: So I've got a question for you. So Denver losing

550
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: to Minnesota, this say is how how are the Lakers

551
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: looking at this point? Doesn't that make them look even worse?

552
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: And then you also say they've got like a top five,

553
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: top ten change the game type of guy and they

554
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: play the Nuggets and they lose, and okay, bad?

555
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: Who wait? When did what do you mean a top five,

556
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: top ten change the game type of guy?

557
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: Top ten Lebron Lebron? You were saying that he was

558
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: like one of the guys that still impacts the game

559
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: on a super heavy level, and then ended up getting

560
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: a he got the gentleman sweep. Yeah.

561
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't think the Lakers would have lost to the

562
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Nuggets with with peak Lebron. I think that. I don't.

563
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think I

564
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: saw I saw Pete Lebron uh dominate the league for

565
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: a decade. No, I don't think they would have lost.

566
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: I don't think right now the Lakers have one of

567
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: those guys. They obviously don't. They have the oldest player

568
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: in the league. And it's here's the thing that folks

569
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: I think get frustrated by when it comes to trying

570
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: to troll me on basketball things. I don't give a

571
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: shit about the Lakers. I am not a Lakers fan.

572
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 2: Lakers fans mostly don't like me because of the old

573
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Kobe stuff. I have no loyalty to the Lakers. I

574
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: am a basketball fan, and Lebron James is my favorite player. Ever,

575
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: nothing would make me happier than Lebron leaving that organization

576
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: that is run like the family Dollar Like I don't so.

577
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: I yeah, does it mean the Lakers were further from

578
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: a championship, Sure, but it's also one of the reasons

579
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: why nobody in their right mind was picking the Lakers

580
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: to win the championship, even when I picked them to

581
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: beat the Nuggets. I had the MAVs winning the championship

582
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: and we'll see how that one turns out. But yeah,

583
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't care. I'm not and I'm also

584
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: not really trying to do the transitive property of series.

585
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the story though, But go ahead,

586
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: if you have more questions. Maybe ones that don't annoy

587
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 2: me as much as that one.

588
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Yeah, so you got mad at the producers

589
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs Denver comparisons. But it seems like that

590
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: could still be true if and the Tea Wolves equal

591
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

592
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: So here's the problem with a number of those things,

593
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: of those Mahomes and comparisons, and this is the or

594
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: the Chiefs comparisons. So Patrick Mahomes is twenty eight years old,

595
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: and he has his three championships and has been to

596
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: four Super Bowls, the equivalent of the NBA Finals and

597
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: six conference finals. Nikolajokich is older than Patrick Mahomes. He's

598
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: older than it. So it's not like, oh, they're on

599
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: the track the Chiefs were on The Chiefs were on

600
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: that track when my guy was twenty three years old.

601
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: So if we want to retroactive, be like, oh, last

602
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: year was the Nuggets twenty nineteen year and this year

603
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: is their twenty twelve. In fact, no, also, that's not

604
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: even the history of it. The Chiefs followed up their

605
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: first championship by getting back to the championship, is what

606
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: they did. The Borough thing happened to the following year

607
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: and then they won two straight. So no those and

608
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: also will that is where I'll get irritated. Patrick Mahomes

609
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: at worst, at worst is going to finish as the

610
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: second greatest player in the history of his sport. They're

611
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: not in the same grouping guys. They're not. And so

612
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: again it's like that. It's it is not fair to Joker,

613
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: it's not fair to anyone with an IQ over seventy.

614
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: It's not fair to people who appreciate the games. To

615
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: compare these two, one is already a minted dynasty, the

616
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: other has won one title. That's okay, that's where that's

617
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: where we're at, and that's fair. That's fine. The if

618
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: you want to right now, the far better comp for

619
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: the if we want to go cross sport, the far

620
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: better for the Nuggets is the Rams won a championship

621
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: banner hangs forever, had a very disappointing championship defense, and

622
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: then is trying to get back to that place. And

623
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: last year I thought the Rams could have But and

624
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: this is the last thing I'll say on this, but

625
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: then I'll move on. Man, you don't wanna waste the

626
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 2: healthy seasons. And this is where the Nuggets maybe got

627
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: unlucky already. Maybe the Nuggets feeling is our championship window

628
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: was cracking open in the bubble when we made those

629
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: conference finals, when we had the back to back three

630
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: to one comebacks against Utah and the Clippers made the

631
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: conference finals, get cracked by the Lakers, and then Jamal

632
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Murray got hurt and two of our contention years were

633
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: ruined by Jamal Murray's injury, which is probably accurate, right,

634
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: And now we've had two that the next two years

635
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: when we've been fully healthy we had we won a

636
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: title and then we you know, blew the biggest lead

637
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: in the history of a Game seven at home. And

638
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: the point I'm making is this team doesn't have the

639
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: depth in order to deal with somebody's spraining an ankle

640
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: and missing three weeks of the playoffs, and and they

641
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: don't have the luxury the Celtics have, which is we

642
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: could lose a guy like Kristaps Porzingis and it doesn't

643
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: matter because our path to the finals is so laid

644
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 2: out for us. The West is gonna be brutal every year,

645
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: and some hard financial realities are coming for the Denver Nuggets,

646
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: and we'll see all they respond, but defending your title

647
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: by getting fifty balld in a closeout game and then

648
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: blowing the biggest game seven lead in the history of

649
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: the sport. It's on the resume. It's not the first

650
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: thing on the resume, but it's it's before the old

651
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: story continues on page A seven part of the resume.

652
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: It's on there. How long did how long did we go?

653
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Demanse went forty.

654
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: Three, So it's it's mirrored for me, So uh okay,

655
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean we went for it. I bet the kid's

656
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 3: college fun. On the over, where do I collect my winnings?

657
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent said over those fifty seven percent were winners.

658
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Speaker 2: Take quick break, talk about the other series, What's Right?

659
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: All right?

660
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Wright episode two

661
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Again a reminder, and it's a reminder because

662
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm putting I'm saying it multiple times because I sometimes

663
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: I say I'm gonna talk about something on the pod

664
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: and then I'm just like, I don't have the energy.

665
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a heavy topic, but I'm pot committing

666
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: myself to it. Thursday show, I'm gonna use what Happened

667
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 2: with Scottie Scheffler, pardon me, thank you, And we're gonna

668
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the cops. And also we

669
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: haven't had a pod since Butcker's comments at the graduation

670
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: because we didn't have a pod last Thursday, so we'll

671
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: talk a bit about that as well. So we'll do

672
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: both of those things. Speaking of, by the way, the

673
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: Chiefs and an off season that has been you know,

674
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: not without some news blotter this front on Football Talk.

675
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: The photographer who said initially that Rashi Rice hit him

676
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: at the club, evidently the photographer wants the chargers dropped.

677
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: So that was a weird one where the initial allegation

678
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: was that Rashid texted the guy come back to the club,

679
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: the guy came back to the club and he clocked

680
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: him in the face. But then the next day the

681
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: owner of the club was like, yeah because the yeah,

682
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: so it was it wasn't like paparazzi photographer. It was

683
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: like club photo, you know what I mean, if you're

684
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: out a nightclub and they have like the person who

685
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: does it for like the club's social media something like that.

686
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: It was more that type of thing. I guess, yeah,

687
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: because at first when you hear allegedly hit a photographer.

688
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: You think it's one of those things like walk into

689
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: your car, someone taking a picture, you push the camera.

690
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: That's the image at least I had in my head.

691
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: But then the allegation was this guy was working at

692
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: the working left, was texted told to come back, came back,

693
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: and she hit him in the side of the face. Like, well,

694
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: it's pretty bad to see you're already in trouble. It's

695
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: pretty bad. But then the next day the owner of

696
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Speaker 2: the club came out and said, none of this happened.

697
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: He said, I was there and I reviewed the videotape.

698
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: None of it happened. But then the police report came

699
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: out and the police report said the photographer had a

700
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: visible mark on his face, so seemingly something happened to him.

701
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: So it's like it was an odd it was an

702
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: odd story to begin with. Now, according to uh I

703
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: think w or. Tom Pellisaro of NFL Media says that

704
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: the man said there was a misunderstanding and he wants

705
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Speaker 2: any and all charges dropped. So that's not going to

706
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Speaker 2: go anywhere. I don't know what did or didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. The thing is this, even if he

708
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent innocent on this, okay, And this

709
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: is where I'm gonna you know what, I'm gonna ask

710
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: your opinion demons, and then we'll get back to the basketball.

711
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: But there's a little breaking news on it. And I

712
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: get annoyed with people who think that there are.

713
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Speaker 3: Something dress address for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah. I mean it's like, guys,

715
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: I do like you. The folks who say that they

716
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: they act as if one hundred percent of the content

717
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 2: I produce is like the seven minutes of clips a week.

718
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: At first, things first puts out of you know what

719
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: I said. I'm like, guys, there's been a lot of

720
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: dress that did not make it into your Twitter feed.

721
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: But but I so let me ask you this. If

722
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: I sound like an old man here, if you think

723
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is reasonable, if you think you're honest

724
00:51:53,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: to god opinion okay, okay, if you're Rashi Rice and

725
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 2: the street racing thing happened and is hanging over your

726
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: head from the moment that happens until the moment it

727
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: gets resolved. With the NFL and with uh the court system,

728
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't I don't want you at

729
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: clubs A club Yeah, is that a reasonable take in

730
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: your opinion?

731
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: It's a it's a reasonable take if you I think

732
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: the guy has the ability. I don't. It's a it's

733
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: a weird one. But yeah, i'd say that's reasonable. Are

734
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Speaker 3: you saying, like as a coach, Andy Reid front office whatever, Yeah,

735
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: I'd say that's fair to to.

736
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Speaker 2: That I'm saying. I'm saying if if I were his dad,

737
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: if it were you, and you had made a big mistake,

738
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: that the consequence is we're pending for right that we

739
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: don't know how much trouble you're in, and within a

740
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: month you're like out partying. I am nervous even if

741
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: now and I think this is and I think my

742
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: stance on that is proven by this exact thing, because

743
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 2: either within a month you were out partying and made

744
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: another egregious decision, or within a month you were out partying,

745
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: did absolutely nothing wrong and now get drawn into more controversy, you.

746
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

747
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: Like the either way, it's kind of evidence of let's

748
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: just chill on the hanging out with our buddies in Dallas, Like,

749
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: let's just let's just chill a bit, man. And so yeah,

750
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: so there there's.

751
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: A super bowl Man having a good year.

752
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: I know, but let yeah exactly all right, let's get

753
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: to the back to the basketball, all right.

754
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: So the Knicks players can finally get some rests. The

755
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: injuries were just too much. I think Josh Hart got injured,

756
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: Og was injured, and then Brunson fracture his hand at

757
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: the end there. So they have a sup They have

758
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: their superstar and Jalen Brunson in a good supporting cast

759
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: and a lot of assets. So with that said, Lebron

760
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: James to the Knicks next year.

761
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: God, I'd love it. I mean, it would be awesome.

762
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen. Uh. I think it

763
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: is on the board, but not at all likely in

764
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: the least. I think it's possible. I think you would

765
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: fill a massive need for them. They need another piece.

766
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: They obviously should spam the Sun's phone calling for Kevin Durant.

767
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: I understand a lot of folks want Mikhale Bridges because

768
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: he's the Nova guy and it at if I'm being honest,

769
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the Knicks are in Mikale Bridges away

770
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: from being champions. I think, then you have this awesome roster,

771
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: but you don't have the guy. Well, listen, Jalen Brunson

772
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: has made himself the guy. But if he's gonna be

773
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: your guy, you need a better number two than McHale Bridge, right, exactly.

774
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the injuries though, because

775
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: I think people are being so intellectually dishonest about the

776
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: TIBs piece of it, which is folks are acting like

777
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: because of what the injuries were, that Tibbs playing his

778
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: guys these insane minutes has nothing to do with the injuries,

779
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: and that just that defies the obvious logic and the

780
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: most basic point of this. Are you more likely to

781
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: suffer a basketball related injury when you're playing basketball or not?

782
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 3: On the bitch, right, that's this area.

783
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the people are like, oh, well, only Oge's

784
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: was an overuse injury. Yeah, but I And so this

785
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: was the analogy that I that I used on the

786
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: show that I'm going to use again. If I run

787
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: a delivery business, okay, a courier business in New York City,

788
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: and my business is known for working my guys incredibly

789
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 2: long hours, having them run or do more deliveries than

790
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: any other company, and I don't give them water breaks,

791
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: And at the end of the year I've had, I've

792
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: lost ten couriers to injury or other and I'm like, well,

793
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: hold on the second guys. Only two of them was

794
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: dehydration exactly. The other seven got hit by cars or

795
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: turned an ankle. You can't say that's on me. It's like, well, no,

796
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: but they had more opportunities to get run over by

797
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: somebody on an ee bike because they were out in

798
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: the streets more. There are more opportunities for these guys

799
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: to get hurt because of the minutes they're playing. And

800
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: if it to us, could take the TIBs and analogy further.

801
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: If every year I ran this business, around September, people

802
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: wrote articles like, oh my goodness, Nick's delivery business overachieving again.

803
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: Everyone said he couldn't hit these quotas with that number

804
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: of employees, but look what he's doing. And then every year,

805
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: by Christmas time, my customers are disappointed, and I'm like, well,

806
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: what do you want for me? All my guys are hurt,

807
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: Like what do you want for Like, well, I don't know, Adjust. Adjust.

808
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: I respect him as a coach, He's obviously an excellent coach.

809
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: He needs to tweak this one thing. Man, There is

810
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: every coach, they play their best players all the minutes.

811
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Do they get there without him playing the players the

812
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: way he does?

813
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: But I guess my point is, what is there? Do

814
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: they get to round two? Yeah? Maybe? Like this is

815
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: like this was not a you know, a historic run,

816
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: and I like the Knicks, but you the this whole

817
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: thing of and we saw it with the We've seen

818
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: it throughout his career, and so I just I just

819
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: chill a little bit, bro, especially when you you wouldn't

820
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: play Alex unless you had family members kidnapped, and then

821
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: you finally play him. Burg's like, I'm all right, i

822
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: might miss a few defensive rotations, but I'll help you out.

823
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: Like it's just too much, all right, let's move on.

824
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: So your lard Slavinian Son has a chance to make

825
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: it to his first finals, but in the Timberwolves obviously

826
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: stand in his way. So everybody's ready to crown ant.

827
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: But if Luca ends up winning this series, does it

828
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: belong to Luca?

829
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: Well, no, winning this series, Winning this series won't give

830
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 2: Luca the best player in the league crown. I don't

831
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: even know if winning the championship definitively will I think that.

832
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: I think that if Luca wins the title, that crown

833
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: is up for grabs with Giannis and Luka and Jokic

834
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: vying for it. Jokic, I think, is still in the

835
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 2: pole position fairly because yes they lost, but they didn't

836
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: lose because he no showed, So I don't think you can't.

837
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: It's not just the guy who wins the title becomes

838
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: the best player in the league. That's not how it works.

839
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: But it puts Luca in that territory. And I and

840
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: here's the other thing I want to say about Luca.

841
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: The guy twice in his career has had an All

842
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: Star ish teammate and both times made the conference finals.

843
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: When Jalen Brunson was ascending, they go to the playoffs.

844
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: They make the conference finals. Last year was a bad year,

845
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: no doubt about it, missed the playoffs, trade for Kyrie midyear.

846
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: This year, Kyrie, who's not even playing that great this postseason,

847
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: they make the conference finals. Luca's played seven series playoff

848
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: series in his career. Six of the seven were against

849
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: top nine defenses in the league that year, and now

850
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: they're playing the number one defense. He already has beaten

851
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: the number one seed twice. He's already just the tenth

852
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: guy in NBA history to be the best player on

853
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: a multi time conference finalist before he turns twenty six

854
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: years old. Like, the guy's a legendary player, and I

855
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: think they can win the title.

856
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: Go ahead, demanse you think he stops? Uh oh, yeah.

857
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: If Luca wins the finals, will he be the runaway

858
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: MVP for next season?

859
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, he's always in contention for it. I think he'll

860
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: start with a lead.

861
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But what was the other question you were gonna ask?

863
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: He stopped Jalen Brunson, Like, I feel like Jalen Brunson

864
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: left Dallas and immediately like sprouted. Do you think that

865
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,959
Speaker 3: Luca was responsible for any of his.

866
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: So here's the thing on Jalen Brunson. So, I don't

867
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: the I think Jalen Brunson. What happened with him was

868
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: he got way better as a player, right, So, Jalen

869
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: Brunson was Was he a second round pick or into

870
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: first round pick? I don't hold on. I gotta look.

871
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't I think he was a second round pick,

872
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: but I gotta look. So Jalen Brunson was an early

873
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: second round pick, Yes, and so his his first year

874
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: in the league. He was nine points a game. His

875
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: second year league, he was eight points a game. His

876
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: third year in the league he showed something was thirteen

877
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: points a game. And then that year, let me make

878
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: sure I have this right, Yeah, that year in the

879
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: playoffs was brutal. Was brutal, and wasn't really all that

880
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: playable in the playoffs. Uh, but you know what, Brutal's unfair.

881
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't brutal. He Carlisle didn't trust him, is what

882
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: it was. He didn't get many opportunities. Sixteen minutes a

883
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: game and eight points a game. So it's unfair to say.

884
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: But it was a tough matchup for him against those Clippers,

885
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: and and the MAVs didn't pay him because of that.

886
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: And then the next year he ascended and in the

887
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: postseason was twenty one a game after in the regular

888
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: season being sixteen a game. He's just gotten better and

889
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: better as a player. Now, would he have turned into

890
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: this alongside Luca, No, because they're No, because they're they're

891
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: But I think he But I think that's because of

892
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: the style of players they are. They both made the

893
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: ball so much right exactly, and so I don't but

894
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Luca was holding him back. I think

895
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: he you know, he's a very undersized score first guard

896
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: that took a lot of time to develop. All right,

897
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: let's see is that and we'll talk about is that?

898
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: What would you describe Kyrie? He's game ass because I

899
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: know he's been like shape shifting and playing different to

900
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: what they need. But what would you say? Because I

901
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: was like, I'm kind of is that not?

902
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: What is?

903
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: Slightly? It is?

904
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: Except Kyrie had those three years playing with Lebron, so

905
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: he learned how to be his best self alongside a

906
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: guy that's going to have the ball in his hands

907
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: a ton And Kyrie's up more of a dead eye

908
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: shooter than Jalen and so you know, those two things

909
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: I think. But yeah, that's why I thought the Kyrie

910
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 2: Luka fit wasn't going to be a great one. And

911
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: Kyrie's had to take a lesser role and Kyrie, to

912
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: his credit, man.

913
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: He's playing to it his well and his.

914
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: Maturity and leadership has been awesome. Like I really think Kyrie,

915
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: I think that post that the video when he was

916
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: with the Nets when I think that was a really devas.

917
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: I think that was a really hard moment for him

918
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: because he was being accused of being anti Semitic, and

919
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: I think, and I said at the time and will

920
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: say it again, I don't think Kyrie is a hateful

921
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't think hate is part of how he operates

922
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: at all. I think he can be stubborn and hard headed,

923
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: and I think that to this day. I don't believe

924
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: Kyrie actually watched that two hour movie that the you know.

925
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: He posts a clip on Instagram. It turns out the

926
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: movie he's talking about, actually you know, paints Hitler in

927
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: a positive light. Kyrie's then asked about it because he's,

928
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, kind of you know, an anti establishment. He's

929
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: more like, bleep you Yeah, I watched it, Yeah, I

930
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: believe you know what, and then it's snowballs on it.

931
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: I think that was a bit of a scarring experience

932
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: sperience from him, and I think he grew because of it.

933
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: And I think that Kyrie trying to He clearly takes

934
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: being a leader, a cultural leader seriously, and I think

935
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: that finally has he has matured to the point of

936
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: understanding so much of his ability to lead and to

937
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: impact communities financially and otherwise is generated from his brilliance

938
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: as a basketball player, and that was being put into

939
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: question because of you know that he was missing games

940
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: and wasn't on playoff runs and all those things. And I

941
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: think he's a more committed defensive player than ever before.

942
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: I think he's been more mature. I think he's been

943
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: trying to be like the wise elder. He's the oldest

944
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: star left in the playoffs at thirty one years old. Like,

945
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: I've been super impressed by Kyrie, super impressed.

946
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: Uh and will turn around.

947
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: He hasn't even played great and despite that, the MAVs

948
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: find themselves in the conference finals.

949
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: All right, next, all right, so my Celtics continue this

950
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: treacherous path to the finals. They've got the Pacers up next,

951
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: Boston Open at minus twelve hundred favorites. Is it worth

952
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 3: watching or should I just tune in to June sixth.

953
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: For Game one of the finals? Yeah? I mean, I

954
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: mean it's worth watching.

955
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 3: But they're they're gonna give them, They're gonna give them

956
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: a game or two. I honestly think they might give

957
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: them too. I know they're gonna give them one.

958
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's hard to sweep. There's there's no there's

959
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. It's hard to sweep.

960
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 3: I snatch up. Yeah, I know, it's the easiest sweep,

961
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: should possibly be good.

962
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And Pacer fans, I get why you're

963
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: annoyed at how Game seven was presented, because the game

964
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: broadcast should give each team equal time, so to speak.

965
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: But this isn't the game broadcast, this is my podcast,

966
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: and I'm not interested in the Pacers. I mean the

967
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: I I'm just not. I mean, shout out to Halliburton

968
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: for rallying in that series against the Knicks after a

969
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: really tough start to the series. They're a good story,

970
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: but they're multile interesting.

971
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: But they they had the most efficient shooting night and

972
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: a Game seven win.

973
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I'm happy for him, but I'm not.

974
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: But they don't have any chance.

975
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: Something to look out for them.

976
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to no, I'm I'm but I'm not

977
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: going to pretend like they have a chance to win

978
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: the series.

979
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 3: They don't.

980
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: And so the Celtics are going to be in the finals.

981
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about the Celtics as we get

982
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: closer to the finals. All right, Uh, we've got a

983
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: a I'm not gonna do the poker thing today because

984
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't have time to do it. We'll take quick break,

985
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: come back and answer a few questions next, What's right?

986
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back in what's right with Nick? Right?

987
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: All right? Demon say, let's get to a few listener

988
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: questions before I go.

989
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: Sham S reports the Lakers think that JJ Reddick has

990
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: pat Riley type pat Riley like potential. What do you

991
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 3: think of Lebron's sorry, sorry, the Lakers opinion.

992
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: So I think that the Lakers the thing they most

993
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: like about the idea of hiring JJ Reddick is it'll

994
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: create buzz and if it doesn't work out, they can

995
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: act like Lebron made them do it, when I know,

996
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: definitively for a fact, Lebron has not commented one time

997
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: to the Lakers about this coaching search. The Lakers are

998
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: a poorly run team that make a lot of their

999
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: decisions not based on what's the best possible decision, but

1000
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: what's the decision that if it doesn't work out, we

1001
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: can keep our jobs despite it. So that's what I think.

1002
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 2: I'm not excited about the idea of the Lakers hiring

1003
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: a first time head coach who's never even been an

1004
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: NBA assistant. It's also why I hope Lebron James is

1005
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: not on the Lakers next year, but I think he

1006
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: will be next.

1007
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: Scott Murphy asked the Celtics gonna lose lose with non

1008
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: Boston NBA fans. If they don't win, it'll be a

1009
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: failed season. But if they do, it'll be chalked up

1010
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: to an easy path against the injured week East. Scott

1011
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: Murphy ass, that's no question, like once a week now

1012
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: the no.

1013
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Are you talking about the conference

1014
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: finals or the finals? If they don't win the conference finals,

1015
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: it will be a failed season. If they lose as

1016
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: minus fourteen hundred favorites to the Pacers, it is a failure. Okay,

1017
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: let me make that clear now that you get to

1018
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: the finals, I not lose lose if you win the championship.

1019
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: If you win the championship, no one will care what

1020
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: the path to the finals was. You will be playing

1021
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: either Luca or Ant in the finals and if you win.

1022
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: The way to make it not a lose lose is

1023
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: to win. But if you make the finals through this

1024
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: path and then get rolled by one of these two teams, yeah,

1025
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: people are gonna say you know that you made the finals.

1026
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: But were you the fourth best team in the sport

1027
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: that year? Where the MAVs, the Thunder, the Nuggets all

1028
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: better than you, and that'll be a fair conversation. So

1029
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: go win the championship and it's not a problem.

1030
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: Next, Bradley Hammond asked, can you give us a few

1031
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: players whose future with their current team is most tied

1032
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: to how the season ends? Might not even be a

1033
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: player on the one one of the remaining teams.

1034
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, you always have to include Jalen Brown because when

1035
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 2: if the Celtics don't win the championship, his name always

1036
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: comes up in trade conversations. So there's one Kevin Durant,

1037
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what his future with the Suns is

1038
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: going to be. Donovan Mitchell as well as far as

1039
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: teams players on the remaining teams, No, Jalen Brown's the

1040
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: only one. All right, Uh, let's go to Dylan Demase.

1041
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: Dylan A. Dylan L. Nick. What historical NFL team is

1042
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 3: your count for the Wolves so far these playoffs?

1043
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: So I saw that question. I don't know that I

1044
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: have a great answer.

1045
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: Cam Newton's like, sorry, well.

1046
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: That's not a bad one. But that team was fifteen

1047
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 2: and one and Cam was the league MVP. Uh, this

1048
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: is like a team based on defense that seems to

1049
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: be there early Russell Wilson Seahawks, is I answer? And

1050
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: when in year two they win the whole thing? Uh,

1051
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: and they beat uh Peyton, Manning and Denver. Oh, they

1052
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: beat Denver in the Super Bowl. So off the top

1053
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: of my head, Russell Wilson Seahawks, all right? Last one?

1054
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,919
Speaker 3: Genghis Khan asked Nick, what happens to your Scoot Henderson

1055
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: over Wimby call?

1056
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: It was a bad rookie the year pick. I mean

1057
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: it was, by the way, it was not a career

1058
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: length call. It was it was it was. It was

1059
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: for that I picked Scoot to win Rookie of the

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Speaker 2: Year because I thought he was going to be more

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Speaker 2: NBA ready, and I thought Wimby might not play the

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Speaker 2: requisite games. But I clearly undervalued Wmby and clearly overvalued Scoot. Again, folks,

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Speaker 2: try to be like, ah, I got you, guys. If

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Speaker 2: when I'm wrong, it doesn't happen that often. But when

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I admit it. The Scoot over the Category three?

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Speaker 3: What now I know that he's another Do you think

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Speaker 3: Wimby would be good with the Knicks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think every team. But why are you bringing

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01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: that up?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Because you were saying, like the Knicks that piece

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Speaker 3: that they're missing. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think Prime Bill Russell would be good with the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: but he's not available. I mean r I P. But

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Speaker 2: I mean the I mean Wimby's not available. They could

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: offer the deed to Madison Square Garden. He's not available.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot of guys that could. I

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: think Joker would be good with the Knicks. They should

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01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: call and see if they can get him.

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Speaker 3: They available.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I was ending the show and you

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: threw out. Do I think Wimby would be good with

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01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: the Knicks? Yeah? I think Justin Jefferson be pretty good

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01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs. I don't think they're gonna be able

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01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: to get him. Sorry, pal, I don't mean to flame

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: you at the end, but there's you just threw that

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: out there. It's just a bad take. Yeah, I think

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: it'd be great with the Knicks.

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01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: They should call.

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: Go could tell world Wide West, you can call San Antonio,

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: see what if you'll take a couple future twoes. Demon's

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Speaker 2: a great job everyone, Great job, Daniel. Sorry your team

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: ended up being a one time champ. No problem with

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01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: that though, there's you still get to hang that banner.

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