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Speaker 1: welcome to this incredibly special edition of Defending the Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Alters with your voice to the Chiefs. Don't fear.

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Speaker 1: Matt mcmallin, Senior team reporter, will join me in a bit.

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Speaker 1: But we have an awesome guest here with us is

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Speaker 1: have enough jobs. Kathy Nelson I said at a Monday

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Speaker 2: Oh, there certainly have been challenges. You know, anything of

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Speaker 2: and really that just comes down to communication. So over communicating,

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Speaker 1: What has been the path to get here? Going back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we started back in twenty fifteen, you know, traveling

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Speaker 1: How big is this and can it be? Because I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, my first impression is how fortunate are we that

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Speaker 3: Every team can get better, the Chiefs included. No roster

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Speaker 3: They're picking last in their home city, and we don't

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Speaker 1: Up and team. Since twenty seventeen, let's be honest, and

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals have Kyler Murray, but we haven't talked

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Speaker 1: So now best leads it because this too slot trade

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Speaker 1: But I think the run, just my theory, will come

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Speaker 3: A guy like Emmanuel Forbes from Mississippi State, I think

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Speaker 1: And don't be stunned, Chiefs Kingdom that if one of

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Speaker 1: And corners are a little bit like pitching in baseball.

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Speaker 1: You can't get enough. And we have seen like lit

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Speaker 1: Lgerius Sneid, know we pigeonhole a guy in a corner.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing news for the Chiefs. Right we're picking up

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Speaker 3: of the draft the worst teams are getting better and

435
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Speaker 3: the team at the bottom of the draft are not

436
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Speaker 3: getting the best players. But just the way this draft

437
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Speaker 3: has worked out is truly the depth and the strength

438
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Speaker 3: of this class is guys in that twenty to maybe

439
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 3: fifty range, and the Chiefs are right in the middle

440
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Speaker 3: of that at thirty one. Overall, it's a great opportunity

441
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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs, and unlike previous years where maybe there's

442
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Speaker 3: a certain position the Chiefs really have to address, Like

443
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty comes to mind. After that season you lose

444
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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, you have to address offensive tackle. Right,

445
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Speaker 3: We're really not talking about any other positions in the

446
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Speaker 3: first round because they have to address offensive tackle. They

447
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 3: end up trading for Orlando Brown Junior with that first

448
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 3: round pick this draft, that's really not the case. Are

449
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Speaker 3: there areas that Chiefs can get better? Sure, those three

450
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: areas I mentioned are the ones that come to mind,

451
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Speaker 3: but they could go any of those directions and end

452
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Speaker 3: up with a pretty good player that we feel really

453
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Speaker 3: good about that could come in on Day one and

454
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Speaker 3: help this team hopefully get back to the super Bowl.

455
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Speaker 3: They don't have to go any of those directions. One

456
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Speaker 3: of those players in those position groups will be there.

457
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Speaker 3: And I'm really excited about the crop of guys that

458
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Speaker 3: could be available because there's some good players in this

459
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Speaker 3: draft and maybe wouldn't be available in this range in

460
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Speaker 3: previous years other position.

461
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Speaker 1: Before we close here, and we got one other thing

462
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Speaker 1: about the blessing and the curse of the thirty first pick,

463
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Speaker 1: is the tight end position. Now, let's say there's run

464
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Speaker 1: on corners have and just take that hypothesis and it

465
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: shoves down tackles, it shoves down edge, it shoves down

466
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Speaker 1: what you've got, but also shoves down tight ends in

467
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Speaker 1: the fact that this is a really good tight end class.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, people talk about Mayor of Notre Dame Kincaid

469
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: is super athletic. He's got to stay healthy, and so

470
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Speaker 1: does the Oregon State tight end. But there are four

471
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Speaker 1: or five impact tight ends that are considered to be

472
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Speaker 1: somewhere in the mid first and the mid second. And

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, wait a minute, we don't need a

474
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Speaker 1: tight end. We've got a glut of tight ends. If

475
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Speaker 1: the right tight end is there, go back to the

476
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Speaker 1: Kingdom lens here in that if it's there, don't look

477
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Speaker 1: past at the Chiefs would take one and figure out

478
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Speaker 1: a way to use him, especially if it's an athletic

479
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: tight end that is in this class. That again that

480
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Speaker 1: don't be stunned if the Chiefs, if it's there, would

481
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Speaker 1: do something like that.

482
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Speaker 3: It gets back to what we've been saying for weeks

483
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Speaker 3: now that the Chiefs truly can take the best player available.

484
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Speaker 3: They don't have a glaring need where they have to

485
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Speaker 3: fill a hole. Again, areas that can get better, yes,

486
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Speaker 3: but if a really good tight end is there at

487
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Speaker 3: thirty one, a guy like Michael Maher or Dalton Kinkaid,

488
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Speaker 3: those two come to mind. For sure, they can do it.

489
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Speaker 3: And they're the team that has the ability to do

490
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Speaker 3: so because they're already so good and they just won

491
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, right and we talk about wide receiver

492
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Speaker 3: and yeah, we have to find some more pass catchers

493
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Speaker 3: on this team. Well, a guy like Dalton Kinkaid, Sure

494
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: he's a tight end, but he is a quasi receiver

495
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: playing tight end, just like Travis Kelsey is. Travis Kelsey

496
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Speaker 3: is the number one wide receiver on the Chiefs right now,

497
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 3: even though it says tight end next to his name.

498
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid has that kind of potential, so Kinki would

499
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. Michael Maher is more of

500
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: a complete kind of tight end. He's a bigger guy,

501
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: more of a blocker as well as a pass catcher.

502
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: But he would be exciting in that spot. But they

503
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Speaker 3: don't have to do it in round one. This is

504
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Speaker 3: one of the deepest tight end classes I can ever remember.

505
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Speaker 3: There's some guys who are really good players who will

506
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Speaker 3: be available on Day two. Guys like Tucker Craft from

507
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Speaker 3: South Dakota State.

508
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: That's my guy. Yeah it is. Yeah, you love that guy.

509
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Speaker 3: I love that for a good reason. You mentioned Luke

510
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 3: Musgrave from Oregon State, Darnall.

511
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Speaker 1: Washington healthy, he missed most of the last year, but yeah,

512
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: mus Graves, he's got a shot, good player.

513
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: And then Darnell Washington from Georgia who's six foot eight

514
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: two and fifty pounds, didn't play a lot of the

515
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 3: move tight end role in college, was mostly a blocker,

516
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: but was used a little bit in the passing game

517
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Speaker 3: and was effective because he's huge as a pass catcher.

518
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: So it could make a lot of sense for the

519
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: Chiefs as well. But if a tight end is there

520
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: in round one, they could do it, and if they don't,

521
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised that they did on Day two.

522
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Speaker 1: And keep in mind, we're looking for a fullback replacement,

523
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: right Michael Burton has moved on to the Broncos. That

524
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Speaker 1: tight end dish person of this group of tight ends,

525
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: and that's a very diverse group, could shift in or

526
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: your fourth tight end is also your fullback. All right,

527
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Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind, go back and watch the

528
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Speaker 1: Kingdom Lens talking about versatility and being creative. We'll close

529
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Speaker 1: it out this way, and I call it the blessing

530
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Speaker 1: and curse of the thirty first pick. First of all,

531
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Speaker 1: the blessing is and you brought it up. Were standing

532
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Speaker 1: on the lawn where there were hundreds of thousands of

533
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Speaker 1: people and I got to stand right there on that

534
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Speaker 1: stage with their football team with the Lombardi Trophy, three

535
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Speaker 1: of them. So that's a good thing that you're picking

536
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Speaker 1: thirty one. The curse is, particularly with Wow the Chiefs

537
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: picks worked this year, There's not a ton of It

538
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: would be very difficult, I think for the Chiefs to

539
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: move up much. You know, last year they could move

540
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Speaker 1: up to twenty to get the twenty one slot, I believe,

541
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Speaker 1: to get Trent McDuffie. But to do that there was

542
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Speaker 1: equity to do it. This year, maybe not as much

543
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: equity now you could move up and you know, we

544
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Speaker 1: know about Brett Veach. He will not hesitate. If he

545
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: sees it, he strikes. But maybe you know, in the

546
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: mid twenties he could do that, but maybe not. And

547
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Speaker 1: so thirty one and one of the curses iss it

548
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: kind of feels sometimes like the start of the second round.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's difficult because thirty one overall basically is the

550
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Speaker 3: first pick of the second round. Thirty teams have selected

551
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 3: before you have, and it's difficult to trade up from

552
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: that pick very far. Brettvich mentioned in this presser last

553
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: week that that mid twenties range is pretty much the

554
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: striking distance. If the Chiefs see a guy falling a

555
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: la Trent McDuffie last season, you go up and get him.

556
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: You get your guy.

557
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 3: But I really think there's so much depth in this

558
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: class that the Chiefs don't have to do that if

559
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: they shouldn't feel like they have to, right, because they'll

560
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: get a good player at thirty one. If they identify

561
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: a guy who is sliding, they can find a way

562
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: to make it work, I think with their draft capital.

563
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: But you're right it will be difficult. Let's quickly run

564
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: through the picks the Chiefs have in this draft. They

565
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Speaker 3: have ten of them, thirty one overall, obviously, then in

566
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Speaker 3: the second round, number sixty three overall, in the third round,

567
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Speaker 3: number ninety five overall. They have two fourth rounders, one

568
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Speaker 3: of them in the Tyreek Hill trade, Number one twenty

569
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Speaker 3: two overall, number one thirty four overall, a fifth rounder

570
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Speaker 3: which is number one sixty six overall, two sixth rounders,

571
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 3: one from Miami one as a cop pick. Those are

572
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: number one seventy eight overall and number two seventeen overall,

573
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Speaker 3: and then back to back picks in the seventh round

574
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Speaker 3: number two forty nine overall and number two fifty overall.

575
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Speaker 3: So ten picks in this draft for the Chiefs. Not

576
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: a lot of very high picks, so not a lot

577
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: of ammo to go up and gets to fifteen overall

578
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: or something crazy. But I do think they could find

579
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: a way to make it work if they wanted to

580
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Speaker 3: get in that mid twenties range.

581
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Speaker 1: What do you heard from Kathy Nelson? Come out here

582
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Speaker 1: on Saturday and enjoy this. Also, don't sleep on those

583
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: seventh round picks. No or Isaiah Pacheco or Jalen Watson

584
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: will slap your hand right. So we pay attention to

585
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Speaker 1: the seventh round in the chief Kingdom. Here's the fight.

586
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: We'll close out this way, here's the blessing of the

587
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: thirty first pick, and on defending the kingdom. Matt and

588
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I try to kind of give you things to think about.

589
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: You can take it to your water cool or to

590
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: your workplace and go, hey, let's talk about this. So

591
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: we'll plant this seed. The thirty first pick in this

592
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: time of Patrick Mahomes and where he ranks on the

593
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: chief salary cap. Right, he's on a second contract. We

594
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: know the dynamics of that. We've seen that affect other teams,

595
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs have already won a Super Bowl with

596
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on that second contract. But the thirty first pick,

597
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: if it becomes a long term player, even if it's

598
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: not necessarily a pro bowler, you get the fifth year. Basically,

599
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: it provides leverage. So think about the great picks the

600
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs have had over the last two years. And let's

601
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: take a creed. Let's take Trey Smith. The Chiefs picked

602
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: him up in the sixth round. He's really a first

603
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: round talent at the very least the second round. But

604
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: if you pick him at thirty one in this draft,

605
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: or someone like him, you basically get five years instead

606
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: of four, and really four instead of three when you

607
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: look to that free agent year. So it creates leverage

608
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: for that player that you're looking for, a long term

609
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: player that the Chiefs are looking for to live in

610
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: that second lap around the track of Patrick Mahomes' contract.

611
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: That cost control is so important because how do you

612
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 3: keep getting back to the super Bowl every year if

613
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: you're the Chiefs, Well, you have Patrick Mahomes, you have

614
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, you have Chris Jones. That's a big step

615
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: and a big part of it. But you also have

616
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 3: to replenish this roster with good young talent year in

617
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: and year out. And that's why the Chiefs have been

618
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: so good in recent years. It's not just the guys

619
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Speaker 3: at the very top of this roster. It's the guys

620
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: that you bring in like Jalen Watson, like Isaiah Pacheco,

621
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: like Tray Smith, that you're finding at the back end

622
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: of the draft and it come in and they're not

623
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Speaker 3: just good players, they help this team win a championship.

624
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: You have to keep finding those players each and every year.

625
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: And kind of joked around that number thirty one overall

626
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: is basically a second rounder, But in terms of that

627
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: cost control, it's really not. Because you have that fifth

628
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: year option, and if you get a really good player

629
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Speaker 3: at thirty one overall, and you can We've seen that

630
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: in past drafts. You can get a really good player

631
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: even in the thirties, you have them for an extra year,

632
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: when if they are thirty two overall in this draft,

633
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: you'd only have them for four.

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Speaker 1: Years, all right, So, Kingdom Defenders, if you can get

635
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: here over the next several days, do so. It literally

636
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: feels like a world's fair National Football League style And

637
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: if you've never been to Kansas City, you will see

638
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: just how magical it is. And for those of you

639
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: can't get it over the next three or four days,

640
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: sometime maybe the next five years or so, figure it

641
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: out a way to get here, even if you're not

642
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: from the States, to get here and see how magical

643
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: and wonderful this city is. I know you and I

644
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: are both immensely proud of it. Matt McMullen's senior team reporter.

645
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Speaker 1: I'm Betchold's voice to the Chiefs. It's the NFL Draft

646
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. It's here, it's now. It's real in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. John touch down, Lo wash it down, and

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Speaker 1: the celebration begins to their head