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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions and incasion didn't notice I'm not broke. 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: You know he'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: industry decision make because it's what he likes to do, 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: we go. Yes, Yes, ras Sean mcdonald' want to making 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: conversations Welcome to my show. Welcome to everybody the show. 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Because I'm about I'm a sharing, I'm I'm a share 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm a giving guy. I give you information. I 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: tell you the truth. I don't lie because just just 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: google me, Just check me out online, just go Rashaan McDonald, 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: just type it in pages. Information gonna come up about me. 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Information I forgot gonna come about me. They add information 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: daily about me. Overline that it was really a trip 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: because as you, as you start populating the system, people 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: want to know more and more about you. And that's 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: what this show is about. Now. My next guest, starting 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: his acting career in eighteen seventy four in the New 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: York Shakespeare Festival production of king Lear. Right there, I 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: cannot do king Lear. You hear my accent. I can't 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: even come close to doing a character in king Lear. 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: He did it with another eloquently speaking gentlemen called James 53 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Earl Jones in the title role. Then he got busy. 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: He appeared alongside Edda Murphy and coming to America, they're 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: supposed to do a remake. I don't know why they're 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna mess that up. There's an all time great movie 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: coming to America and earned a role in nine Spike 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Lee film Do the Right Thing. That movie should have 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: won an Oscar. He is noted for being the most 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: frequent actor to appearing adaptations of Thomas harris Hannibal books, 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: along with Man Hunter. That was a good movie, right there. 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: He also appeared at lectures Jailer Barney and the Silence 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: of a lamb Oh, that was a scared movie, right there, 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Jodie Foster, the sequel Hannibal, and the prequel Red Dragon. 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: He is well known to many Baltimore City Police Commissioner 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Irvan Burrell on HBO's critically applauded claimed drama The Wire. 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: That show was too real for me, as many other 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: critics include Blue bloods Lie to Me, Lauren Arthur s Vu, 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: The Good Wife, Elementary Band, c We're gonna talk about that. 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: That is my all time favorite show, and Luke Cage. 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: He is not starting on a new show called The Village. 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money, Megan Conversations, Frankie, it is on. Well, alright, alright, 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: if he gonna get tired of talking about me, is 74 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: he gonna get tired of talking about me? No, sir, no, 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: sir no, sir, Ree, Brother, you are you are a 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: consummate professional? You are you articulate? I had to tell people, man, 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: when they come on my show, you know you you're 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: a grinder. You're you're grinder. You know you've got good 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: friends of mine like Vondi, Curtis Hall, my Boy, or 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Clifton Pile. These are something some people. They play all 81 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: these different roles and I'm not saying you like them, 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: but y'all, you forget your body of work sometimes. And 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: how important I said, coming to America. If that ain't 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: big in the black community, come on that, do the 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: right thing. If that ain't big and the black men 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: did he jump over there? Do man? Hudder and silence 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: of the lamp. You don't do that. He just can't 88 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: do that. But man, okay, before we get to the village. Um, 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: all right, okay, Now, the wire that that changed television? 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Would you say that, would you? Because I would say 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I heard that on many occasions they said, yes, it 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: has revolutionized television and the way people watch television and 93 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: the things that they see on television. It was a huge, huge, 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: huge success and a very important part of I think 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: of history in general, not just Black history, but just 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: history in general. In the way in which you report 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: and watch and see things. So I'm so proud of that. 98 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't even begin to tell you when when you 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: when you read the script, because we all get scripts, 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: you know you you writers come to you and and 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: they say I want you. You auditioned for these roles, 102 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: did you feel anything when you would reading your character 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: as the series was developing, you felt like this is 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: something different, this is really gritty, too too real. Absolutely, 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: when I read it, I just felt that it was 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: just phenomenal writing, and I felt like was something I 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: really wanted to be a part of. Initially, I had 108 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: read I read audition for the role of for the 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: role of the young lieutenant. Um, I can't and when 110 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I can't, believe my mind, my mind is doing a 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: mental block on me. But they saw something in me 112 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: that said that no, he should be the Commissioner Barrel. 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: And so when I got that role, they came back 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and I hadn't remembered reading that role, because you're just 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: getting a certain part of the script when you read 116 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: in audition for things. But this it's turned out to 117 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: be a wonderful choice for me, and it's been a 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: wonderful choice for the production as well. I think we 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: both served each other very well. And you don't know 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: something's going to be amazing and fantastic. You just do 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the best you can while you're in it. And then 122 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: and then things they happened, and they happened for the 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: good and for this show it was it was well 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: deserve irved. Okay, Now my wife gonna get excited when 125 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: I broke up this show because man, from day one, 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: we couldn't believe we didn't uh band sheet now that 127 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: is that was a no brain of man. And then 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: that was a show that just from reading the rig, 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: just talking to the producer because I had to have 130 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: a phone call, interview conversation with him, and he told 131 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: me about the character and I said, God, I know 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: that man. That man is so he is, so he's 133 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: so in my body of work to come out, and 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: it was easy and then the show came out. There. 135 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Now the writing advance, he is phenomenal. People don't understand. 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: They think it's just one of those you know, action 137 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: shows with lots of sex and violence and all that. 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: But if you look at the curve and then the 139 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: journey of the writing, the writing path in this show, 140 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: you will say, it is phenomenal. So you get you 141 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: get sex, you get by lence, you get killing, and 142 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: you get amazing writing and amazing actors. Bancie really is 143 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: stands out. Is is one of my all time favorite 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: tub shows to be a part of. And now I'm 145 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: glad that people get excited about it, and people for me, 146 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, little old ladies I never thought would be 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: interested in that. They say, oh, I can't wait to 148 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: see the next episode of Bantacie, and I'm like, wow, 149 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you too, go ahead, it's great. So the most diverse 150 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: show to have a hit television as far as I'm concerned, 151 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: not I've never seen the show so diverse. You know 152 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the air, and it treats women with such respect. I mean, 153 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: he's a powerhouse women and every ethnicity that you can 154 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: name is well represented in Bancie. So fantasy stands out. 155 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: It stands out because of the fact that what because 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the reason the reason that reason I bring it out 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: first one of my favorite shows, but also the fact 158 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: that your character could have been white. What I'm saying, yeah, 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: because it's it's in a rural community outside of in 160 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and you and you bar owner. Now, how many 161 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: black people you know, on the bar in that type 162 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: of community, right, But you understand what I'm saying. That's 163 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that when we talk talking about talent 164 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: and and and believability, and you gave us that even 165 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: though the elements would say is that true? Yes, it 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: is because your character allowed us to believe it, and 167 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: then you gave us a reason the root for you 168 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: and support your your your point of view. That's that's 169 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: a that's a gift ye have. It's so universal and 170 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: to me, you know, as an actor and as a 171 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: person and a human being, that's very important to be universality. 172 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I want something that that the whole universe 173 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: can relate and respond to. And I don't want to 174 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: be backed into some corner of ethnicity, a stereotype, or 175 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: any of that kind of stuff. I don't want, you know, 176 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: that is not interesting to me something And I appreciate 177 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: your words about about that too, because if it's not, 178 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: if it doesn't have that element of universality, and I'm 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: just like, uh, I'm not that interested in doing it. 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I will do certain things like that, but 181 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: for most fun, I wanted to be broad strokes. I 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: wanted to say it's undefinable. You know, anyone, you know, 183 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: I can, I can relate and I can respond to it. 184 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: So that really moves my heart. I appreciate those words. 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: They're on his words, sir, They're honest words. And I say, sir, 186 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: just out of respect because of your body of work. 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: We're talking to Frank and face on. He's a star 188 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: of the show on NBC called The Village. It comes 189 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: on every Tuesday night at nine pm East and West 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: a PM. Central Um is a very diverse New York apartment. 191 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: That's the setting is New York. His resume is amazing. 192 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: I was looking through it, you know, soap operas all 193 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: my children. Wow, you know, can you can you stop? 194 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Can you just stop? You know you know I'm looking 195 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Son of Anarchy, the Vampire Diary, Shades of Blue, two Colors, Really, sir, 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, believe me, my friend, when I say this, 197 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: as as as a younger person, you are, it's ration 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: you're the people that we need. That your your your 199 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: black history. You're walking black history. Understand that everything you 200 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: do makes my life better and the people around you better. 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: And uh, well that means that means the world to 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: me because it's certainly with my mother got dressed her soul. 203 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and my father, that's that's the 204 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: kind of individual they always wanted to to raise. And 205 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, to hear those words sounding out of your mouth, 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: I I give you a great deal of appreciation and respect, 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and I congratulate you too for the fine work that 208 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: you're doing. And you're hitting it out there, and it's 209 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: just with energy and love and enthusiasm. Oh it's it's 210 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: too overwhelming. Well, he plays Ron Davis on the Village. 211 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: This is my man, Frank your face on check it 212 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Out on NBC every Tuesday. You keep winning, my brother, 213 00:11:47,240 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: and keep keep keep that acting a lot. Well, right 214 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: back with more from our Tom McDonald and money making 215 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: conversations don't touch that. I was looking for a better 216 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: way to check in on our house while I was 217 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: at work and a friend recommended Blink. 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Main 236 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: conversation is my show. My show is brought to you 237 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: for the general purpose of providing information to people to 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: win with. UH. Coming up now is two guys. It's 239 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: a power couple, two kids. It's always interested in getting 240 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: two guys on the phone because they have and they're 241 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: working together. They have their their own ideas, but they 242 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: have to work together as a partnership as a power couple. 243 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: One is a former employee of IBM. I used to 244 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: work for IBM and Microsoft. He has spent the last 245 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: eight years in the mobile apps space. He built, published, 246 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: and sold a portfolio or one hundred plus mobile apps 247 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: which have collectively been downloaded over twelve million times worldwide. 248 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: He is an expert in mobile app publishing, marketing and 249 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: monetizing monetization, author of These Seven Steps to App Success, 250 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: and host of the brand new podcast Game Up Growth, 251 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: which has debated in the top one hundred business podcast 252 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: on iTunes. She is the creator and host of Side 253 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Hustle Pro podcast, the first and only podcast the spotlight 254 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: bold black women entrepreneurs who have scaled from size hustle 255 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: to profitable business. She also the founder of podcast Moguls, 256 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: a podcast and accelerator program that shines a light on 257 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: untold narratives. Please welcome to money making Conversations that Kayla 258 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Matthews and Moyo Oakle May May I'll working, I'll work 259 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,239 Speaker 1: ing with them. Names man, Thank you for having us. Yeah, 260 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: it's Nikkela Matthews of Coleman. Now because I'm married. Okay, 261 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Well you okay, cool, awesome and high both of you? 262 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: What s are you call them? In from from Washington, 263 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: d C. Okay, cool, let's I go there and Washington, 264 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: d C. Every wednesdays or one maybe one day we 265 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: can have lunch or dinner and uh and further our discussions. 266 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: But today welcome you to money making conversations because you 267 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: guys are what they consider experts in your fields. Um, 268 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: I want to start with you, sir. It's uh, it's morial, right, yeah, yeah, 269 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: you got it. Okay, want to make sure we'll be 270 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: respectful to My name's with Sean, and so I know 271 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: if somebody say it's wrong, he love you. But this 272 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: is how you're supposed to say it. And uh, and 273 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: so if I slide wrong, you know in this conversation filter, 274 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Richard just slipped a little bit. We get it all straight. Now. 275 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: The app business in the podcast business, which is exploding, 276 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: both of them. I think the app business exploded before 277 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: the podcast business. So Maria, you're involved in both of them. 278 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Please explain your background and how did you become an 279 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: expert in this because I have you know, I started 280 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: on radio, but now I've slid into the podcast arena 281 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: and my shows on Serious Exam, my shows on AM 282 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: radio in Atlanta now is a growing podcast arena talk 283 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: about your your path, your your path, your growth a path. Sure, absolutely, absolutely, 284 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: And I probably used the word expert, but I'd like 285 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: to be aware of that because you know, I think 286 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: we both consider ourselves still students of of anything we're 287 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: doing all the time. How did you get into podcast? 288 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: First of all, I got to you both have dynamic personality, 289 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: so it wasn't a hard push to tell you that 290 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: you should be doing a podcast, moyo. But how did 291 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: it develop for you? Right? Right? Right? So it's an 292 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: interesting story because I had a podcast um in called 293 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Daily Spark, and I was talking to different entrepreneurs um 294 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: just all over the spectrum, and I kind of took 295 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: the wrong approach with it, where I think during the 296 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: first month, I was releasing an episode every single day 297 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: and just really got burnt out over it. And I 298 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't know really who exactly I wanted to 299 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people like the show, but um, 300 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: it was just a little bit all over the place, right, So, UM, 301 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: I naturally just ran out of steam and stop liking 302 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: doing it. Um. So what's happened this time is that 303 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: I've been with my wife over the last three years now, 304 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: almost three years now, just building her thing, just being 305 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: very consistent each week, putting out an episode, knowing exactly 306 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: who she's talking to. UM, So I actually she has 307 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: the course that she teaches. I was asking her, you know, 308 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, Hey, you know, I see what 309 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: this thing has done for you and your your brand 310 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: and UM just being allowing people to see your products 311 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and all of these things. I think I want to 312 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: do that again. Can you help me out? So she 313 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: actually made me go through her course that she teaches, UM, 314 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: just go through all the modules just like anybody else. 315 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And after doing that, that that kind of kind of 316 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: set the stage for this show a lot better. And 317 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: I found out the gates. You know, I know exactly 318 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: who I'm talking to. UM. It's gotten a lot more attraction, 319 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: a lot quicker. So I think we're about seven weeks 320 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: in right now. It just crossed fifteen thousand downloads, which uh, 321 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy about. And what we've both been in 322 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: the top one podcasts, so you know, it's been it's 323 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: been exciting. Well, and did you make an announcement when 324 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: you launched your podcast or we just just click? So 325 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely marketed it anywhere and everywhere that I could 326 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: that I have access to. So that includes listeners of 327 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: the previous podcast. You know, I tapped them on the 328 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: shoulder let them know, Hey, I have something new. Sorry 329 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't here, but I'm back again. Would you like 330 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: to listen? I have an email list, it's not a 331 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: huge email list. Let everybody. There are no LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram. 332 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: We're both pretty big on Instagram. UM, so you know, UM, 333 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I think we both believe in Yes, you do have 334 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: to create valuable content that people want to hear that's 335 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: gonna help them with their issues. But then you also 336 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: have to shout about it and remind them about it. Um, 337 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, develop advocates for it, and just find ways 338 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: to get the word out. That's really important to hear that. 339 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Nikalo Um, you got him over here. You even your 340 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: husband you went, Nah, you got to go through the steps. 341 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh yes, because I think you know, people think they 342 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: can just pick up and start a podcast because everyone's 343 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: doing it, and that if you launch it, the downloads 344 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: will come. But you have to be really strategic about it. 345 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: So what he's talking about in terms of knowing who 346 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: you're talking to, I UM, make my students go through 347 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: this module about refining their topic so that they understand 348 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: who their target listener is. You literally should know what 349 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: that person does for a living, who else they're listening 350 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: to and why. And the reason this is important is 351 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: to fold one. It helps you to craft your content. 352 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: So you also should be thinking about your content in 353 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: a long term way. You know, you should be thinking 354 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: about what you're twelfth and fifteenth episode should be, not 355 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: just launching it excitedly and then running out of steam. 356 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: And it's also important to know who you're talking to 357 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: because that helps you to find them online. So we 358 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: talk about Instagram and social media marketing. We're able to 359 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: have effective posts and to have engagement because we know 360 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: where people are hanging out. We know what keywords to 361 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: use to get them to to raise awareness of our 362 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: posts and to get us to show up in those conversations. Now, 363 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: this is a this is an online course that you 364 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: can take. Yes, it's called podcast Moguls, and you're able 365 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: to take it through. Well. First, I offer a free 366 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: master class actually, so I don't just want people to 367 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: rush into podcast Moguls. I want them to understand things 368 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: that they can do right now to get started. So 369 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: for that I have people head over to site Hustle 370 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: pro dot c slash live class for that master class, 371 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: so that is completely free. You can walk through and 372 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: understand how to launch and market your podcast. And when 373 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: you're ready, because you really have to be ready to 374 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: focus and concentrate and commit to the podcasting process, then 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I offer them an opportunity to join the podcast Moguls Accelerator. 376 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: What the he's involved the feet the master classes free 377 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: excuse me a hundred percent free, so that you can 378 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: take at any time for free. And then four see 379 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: podcast moguls um Accelerated program. That fee is actually about 380 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: to go up, so I can't state the fee at 381 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: this very moment, but it does start um, you know, 382 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: right around right under a thousand. Okay, cool, alright, So 383 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: if I wanted one of my couple of my employees 384 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: to take it, which which I do. Okay, That's why 385 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: I brought you on the show. Because there's a there's 386 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: a reality you have to invest in yourself and this 387 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: is exactly yea. And again I'm talking to two experts. 388 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: Now I know more Yo, you don't want to take 389 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: that that hat, but I'm not gonna because I'm not 390 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna give a thousand dollars to somebody who who's not 391 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: an expert what I'm saying. So, and it's important because 392 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm a talent, I have great content. 393 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: I am getting fantastic guests like you to on a show, 394 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: and they have additional other great guests. I usually have 395 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: four four fantastics guests to usually entertainment driven and to 396 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur driven. And in this lane, you will be 397 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: the entrepreneur driven guests that I have that shows on 398 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: serious and and like I said, I'm trying to feed 399 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people, but I need to focus on 400 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: something and I told everybody, let's focus on the podcast world. 401 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: And so so with that being said, I'm gonna have 402 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: both of them take the free courts. Now just walking 403 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: through those steps. How does that work time wise? Because 404 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: I want people on the ARA to here because they're 405 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: going to take your master class. I'm just gonna let 406 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: you know that right as far as timeline, So again, 407 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: the master class is a one hour live class where 408 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: I teach everyone live the steps to that first one 409 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: thousand downloads, because that first one thousand is really critical. 410 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: Once you cross that threshold, not only are you showing 411 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: up more in Apple's algorithms, so that your show is 412 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: being recommended to people who listen to other things. But 413 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: then you also now have a thousand ambassadors who have 414 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: listened to your show and are sharing it with their 415 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: friends and are if you launch it correctly and know 416 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: who you're talking to, they can then share your show 417 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: effectively and say, oh, I love this show. It's about X. 418 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: And then when you're ready to join podcast moguls, that 419 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: is an eight week accelerator, so you are able to 420 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: jump into the on demand lessons right away. And then 421 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: what I also do is every Wednesday, I coach live, 422 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: so people can come into class every Wednesday and we 423 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: just troubleshoot whatever you have going on, what challenges you have, 424 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: so that I'm guiding you throughout that eight weeks, so 425 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: you know that if you encounter any kind of issues 426 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: at all, I'm there to help. I like this So 427 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: it is online, which means that that's important, which is 428 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: where all education is going now once finish university, people 429 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: just looking for stat Now everybody got every major college 430 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: has a Harvard doing it. So so more you watch 431 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: the Kayla's out there side like she's working side like 432 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: she did she's working, she's working, what do you do? 433 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: So when it comes to I'm actually pretty integrated within 434 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: the podcast Mugul's process for example. UM, so when she's 435 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: doing the master class we just talked about then, I'm 436 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: usually um, since we don't have other staff right now, 437 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm usually helping out in there in the chat, just 438 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: answering people's questions and um, you know, just getting people 439 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: excited and getting people prepared. Also, since it's a family business, 440 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: family hustle also show up in the weekly class as 441 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: well to do more of the same, and it's it's 442 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: been pretty cool just seeing some of the results sometimes 443 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, um, sometimes we'll just ask us stout, hey 444 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: are these products good? Are they delivering? And it's just 445 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: been cool seeing some of the students, Like there's been 446 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: people who had podcasts and then you know, first three 447 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: months of this year they joined the course and now 448 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: that rather than hundreds of downloads, they're getting thousands of 449 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: downloads and their people hitting the new and noteworthy charts. 450 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, people who have doubled their downloads within their 451 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: eight weeks in the program. So it's it's like, um, 452 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's my wife, so I'm biased, but I 453 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: do think she's one of the best out there. But then, um, 454 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, in my own business that's independent from my 455 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: podcast moguls inside out of pro um. So one exciting 456 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: thing I have right now, I've kind of taken my 457 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: app business in a different direction. So I don't think 458 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: I actually mentioned this, but I in twenty fifteen. I 459 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: think it was I sold the portfolio I built up 460 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: until then, so sold all the apps is over a 461 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: hundred apps. Um, so that that was a pretty exciting moment. 462 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: But then it was like, okay, you know, um, what's next? Uh? 463 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: You know what am I doing next? So I tried 464 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: some different businesses and found my way back to apps. 465 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: Now that the way I'm thinking about it now is 466 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: that I'm focusing on a very particular niche, and um 467 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: that niche is black people, right. So I feel like 468 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of great, great apps out there 469 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: on the market, a lot of great content, but when 470 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: they built them that they didn't necessarily have us in mind, 471 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm looking at things 472 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: that exists, and um, just looking at where where there's 473 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: a lack of content that needs to exist and where 474 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I can plug in. So the very first one that 475 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: we're rolling out the the first version of it actually 476 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: just came out last week. It's called color Now are 477 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: Um and it's it's a coloring book apps. So through 478 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: my research, I actually found that these coloring books are 479 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: very popular. People use them to relax, the kind of 480 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: therapeutic and um, you know, funny enough, a lot of 481 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: adults use them to play with. So I decided, uh, 482 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: it would be a good thing to have images of 483 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: black people in culture within this this kind of product. 484 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: So got gotta wrapped this up. I gotta bring you 485 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: back on the show, each one of you, individuals. You've 486 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: got too much going on for me to para is together. 487 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: So I want to reach schedules individuals. Pleasant one start 488 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: on their program. Thank you for listening to Money Making Conversation. 489 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Marjohn McDonald and 490 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations don't touch that down. 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He's a two time 522 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Emmy Award winner, three time n double a c P 523 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Image Award winner, sitcom writer, stand up comic, former IBM executive, 524 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: and has a degree in mathematics. More importantly, Rashane McDonald 525 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: will use his business and celebrity relationships to empower small 526 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: businesses with information to succeed. My next guest was born 527 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: and raised in Philadelphia. Is a Grammy nominated singer songwriter 528 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: with a smooth, graspy delivery. Home from years of singing 529 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: in his church squad. Are pursuing a careers a lawyer, 530 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: which is really interesting on the many reason I want 531 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: to show that career switch. Uh. He switched his focus 532 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: to music and began developing his craft as an artist. 533 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: His first single, to Keep You in Mind, landed him 534 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: in his first number one record at Urban a C 535 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: and later crossed over to Billboards pot R and B. 536 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Chart currently working on the launch of a restaurant and 537 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: a man's boiling line Please working the money making conversation 538 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: Jordan's thanks, Hello sir, How are you pretty good? My friend? Lawyer? 539 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Huh yes, yes, yes, we'll see how I worked at 540 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: IBM and so I love IBM. My degree is in 541 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: mathematics and I became a stand up comic, so I 542 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: find it relatable, so don't. I'm not just saying that 543 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: just And that was a career switch for me that 544 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was crazy. How are you 545 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna go from IBM mathematics and now you're telling jokes? 546 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: So who you're a lawyer and now you want to 547 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: get out in that singing and there's no guarantees. What 548 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: was that transition like and what was the reaction to 549 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: your peers or your family or your co workers. Well, 550 00:30:53,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: the transition, I believe was pretty difficult first because you 551 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: have to you have to think about when you make 552 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: a change, and it shift how uncomfortable want one you're 553 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna make yourself, and then how uncomfortable you'll you'll make 554 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the others around you. And what I what I found 555 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: is the beauty and being uncomfortable and the beauty and 556 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, taking that risk and when things are a 557 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: little shaky and things do seem a little uneasy, I 558 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: feel like and the middle of all that filling in emotion, 559 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: that's where you find your true purpose and your true 560 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: destiny and what you truly love to do. I also, 561 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I'm not. I'm not sure if 562 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: it if it's in my bio. But I also was 563 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: an insurance agent for Geiko for four years, so I was, yeah, 564 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was an insurance agent agent 565 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: and Geko. What I will say is that those corporate 566 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: companies are every everybody has their purpose and everyone plays 567 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: their role. Because at the time when I worked for Geico, 568 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: they were you know, doing full tuition reimbursements. So it 569 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of you know, it worked yourself out. But then 570 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: we've got to also remember that everything isn't it's in season, 571 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: and so you know, we have to be comfortable and 572 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: content with moving forward and spreading our wings. And I definitely, uh, 573 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: I definitely had had a lot of sleepless nights, but 574 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: they were all well worth it. Well, I had those 575 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: same sleepless nights that so so anybody. I tell people 576 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: who listen to the show, that's part of the process. 577 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: If you if you want to be comfortable, stay right 578 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: where you are and be and and then be frustrated 579 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life because certain points, if 580 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: you don't make that transition, age is gonna catch up 581 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: with you and you can't make that transition. So you know, 582 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: if you have a dream that you aren't fulfilling right now, 583 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: figure out how to fulfill it, because in the end, 584 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: don't live your life based on regret. So I know 585 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: when I made the decision to leave IBM, I made 586 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: that decision a year in advance, and U and I 587 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: would tell everybody there were tears in my eyes because 588 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: it was tears tied to I didn't expect to do this. 589 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I I went to college like I was supposed to, 590 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: because everybody told me I was supposed to college. I 591 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: got my degree like I was supposed to, and I 592 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: started working at IBM. I was doing everything I was 593 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: supposed to do. Now at night, I was doing a 594 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: stand up comedy. But if there was no realistic approach 595 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: that this is gonna be something I was gonna do 596 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: because yeah, they'd the Murphy out there, Yeah, Richard Pryor 597 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: out there, those were stand up comics. How could I 598 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: be those people? So when I say that to you, 599 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you have all these peers out there, all these major 600 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: players out there. What convinced you that you could participate 601 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: in that arena? Well, you know nothing. You know, I 602 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: didn't need any con You know, when you are called 603 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: to do something and when you have to get good 604 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: talent and you open up your mouth and you see 605 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: that that something is using you outside of you yourself, 606 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: you don't need to convince anyone that you are who 607 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: you who you are. And I think that's where a 608 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: lot of people respected me and respect me now is 609 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: because when I walk UH in the room, I walk 610 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: with purpose. I don't walk to uh consenced. I don't 611 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: walk to see who who's who I'm better than, or 612 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: who's better than me. I don't walk to get the 613 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: approval of others. And when you're starting a business, and 614 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: especially if you're getting into the entertainment business, if you're 615 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: looking for, you know, for someone to validate you, are 616 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: you looking for that that co sign? I know that 617 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I know that that's like you know, what what what 618 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: we're what we're taught, you know, and I know that 619 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: like what with a lot of people feel is necessary, 620 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: but truly go after your dreams and you know, don't 621 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: wait to consist you know yourself to do anything. You know, 622 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: make the plans that I what you really want to accomplish, 623 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: and put it in your heart and write it down 624 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: and and do the work, you know. And and that's 625 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: what I would encourage anyone to do. And that's you know, 626 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: that was my path. You know. I got up, I 627 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: literally got up and left the cubicle of Geico Insurance 628 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: and said this wasn't for me and I wouldn't go back. 629 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: And my mother, you know, she was very upset because 630 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: at the time I was helping her financially and I 631 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: really wasn't helping their financially, if you know what I mean. 632 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Like I was helping her, like we were surviving, we 633 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: were getting past, you know, from month to months and 634 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have three or four months cover. But I 635 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: know that it was it was it was more to that, 636 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I knew that I had to do 637 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: more for my people and for you know, my family, 638 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: and so having eight siblings and growing up and you know, 639 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: just hearing the stories and seeing what everyone's going through, 640 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: you know in my community and then my and then 641 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: and and then my uh, you know family and immediate family. 642 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I want to I want 643 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: to put it all out there, you know, I want 644 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: to put I want to put my arts into chasing 645 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: my dreams. And that's what I did. What makes you consistent? 646 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: I see all these great artists you work with, h 647 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, John Legend, Bad Boy Leyla Hathwick been on 648 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: the show, he's your cold know her from l A 649 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: back in the day, No here from l A, Meek Meal? 650 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: How do you work with all these different talents and 651 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: then maintain who you are well? First, you know, all 652 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: of those artists that you need have played a huge 653 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: role and just me being an artist because it's so crazy, 654 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: like like with with Meek Mill. He was one of 655 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: the artists that I worked with and I wasn't even 656 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: expecting to tap into my artistry the way that I 657 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: did with Meek Mill, but he definitely like pushed me 658 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: and and and brought it out of me just by 659 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, encouraging you know, me as a singer, and 660 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: as a vocalist, because I started off writing songs for 661 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: these people, and every time I would go on the studio, 662 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: even with Keisha Cold, she would hear my voice and 663 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: then I would end up on a track, and you know, 664 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: it just never, it never. I went to see fifty 665 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Cents with a friend of mine, and my friends just 666 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: told me this, you know, he told me to start singing, 667 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: and and I did. In fifty Cents threw me in 668 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: the studio right away and we ended up doing a 669 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: song called Definition of Sexy. And so I didn't know 670 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: that I didn't I didn't know that there was that 671 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: thing that was inside of me that I was hiding. 672 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: But these great artists who who have inspired me over 673 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: the years and even now, uh kind of like planted 674 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: those seeds. And honestly, sometimes we forget to plant those 675 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: seeds into into our brothers and our sisters and our 676 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: and and the people that's coming you know, behind us, 677 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: and even before us. You know, we had we have 678 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: to continue to plant those seasons. So I've had some 679 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: talented people and they really helped plant plant to see 680 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: of me even you know, pursuing it at this level. 681 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: So I'm truly grateful to have worked with them, with 682 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: those artists and you know, have crossed their path and 683 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: the music business because it's definitely changing my change my 684 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: focus and and has also brought uh a new, a 685 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: new creative journey as an artist in my life. Well 686 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: here's the funny part about being a songwriter. And so 687 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: he can he can attest to this. So when you 688 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: when you're a songwriter, you after you have to sing 689 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: the song. Most yes, some people a lot of songs 690 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: writer sing the song correct. And so so here's the deal. 691 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: So they're in the studio, they go, okay, let me 692 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: hear the song, you know. So you know, he starts 693 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: singing and go, I know, they started squinching. Huh what 694 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: they still who is this dude? If? The next question? 695 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: Who is this dude? And then next thing and go okay, 696 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: how can I work with? So you was winning twice, 697 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: you winning twice with a great song, and then you 698 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: win it twice secondly with a great VARs and then 699 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: you had what they call swam and uh and that 700 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: that that's the beauty of you were just going there man, 701 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: just doing your thing. And then God blessed you with 702 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: a clear understanding your humbleness because you weren't going in 703 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: there trying to get a gig other than hey, I 704 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: have a great song I think will really go good 705 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: with your voice and your style with your albums, or 706 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: let's just be your first single that drops or your 707 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: ce D or whatever. And then they heard you, they went, wow, 708 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I got this is a bonus track, right right, right right. 709 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: And I can tell that you you have a lot 710 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: of insight education on how the music business work, because 711 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: it's almost like you're telling me my life, you know, 712 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: like you're telling me, like all the steps, so I 713 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: know this happened before, and you've seen these steps in 714 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: the evolution of a songwriter turning into artists. I've seen 715 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: it and I love it. I love That's what I'm 716 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: just letting you know. We have a relationship now in 717 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: the business and just invite you to call me for 718 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: any mentoring advice. Just call me like I give myself. 719 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: I connect with you. I appreciate that. It is what 720 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: it is. Okay, it is what it is. I started 721 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: money making conversation for this reason. Okay, I cannot leave 722 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: this earth with information that I can use to have 723 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: somebody else. And I have been that I have been 724 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: in too many studios. It's not too many artists. Like 725 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: I said, Kesha, Kesha. I met Keshia Cole when she 726 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: was auditioned and she wanted and she auditioned for me, 727 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: and so then she became as a great autist. And 728 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: she reminded me, I auditioned for you with Sean and 729 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, and because not because it was 730 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: just not because I was arrogant. It was just that 731 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear how great she was. And then 732 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: she went on to greatness and still living the life 733 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: of greatness as a song styles. And then you say, 734 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: John Legend used to coming to the studio all the time, 735 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: one of the most professional individuals I've ever met in 736 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: my life. If you tell John to be in the 737 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: studio at six thirty am, he had there six fifteen. 738 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: He's there, sift all the way, not complaining, not not tired, 739 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: ready to do the work. So when you see how 740 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: great he is, when you see he's all over the 741 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: place with a music, a music style that a lot 742 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: of people questioned because he wasn't doing traditional arm Some 743 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: people would say, what type of music is he doing? 744 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: And so when I look at your music, Mr banks. 745 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, don't 746 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: worry about that cubicle that you left, because you're not 747 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: gonna You're not operating on a A and B plan. 748 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: You're working on an A plan. It's called you. And 749 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep winning because you have multiple streams of income. 750 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: Streams of income means you can write a song, you're 751 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna develop this clothing line, You're going to 752 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: the restaurant business and all those things. And plus guess 753 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: what you can sing and you can go on you 754 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: can do t shirts. That's called multiple streams of income. 755 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: That's why I do this show. Because you're a special 756 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: young man and because you got it, you understand. And 757 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: that's the part that I loved about you is the 758 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: fact that see you still even though you walked away 759 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: from that corporate environment, you still brought it with you 760 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: because you still brought that training with you at Time 761 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: Management with you. And don't forget those stuffs I be 762 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: made me, makes me every day because they've taught me 763 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: skills that I cannot walk away from. My man, we're 764 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna talk in the future. Know them A big fan 765 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: of your know you O my play list. We'll keep winning. 766 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from marn McDonald and 767 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: money making conversations. Don't touch that down. I was looking 768 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: for a better way to check in on our house 769 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: while I was at work, and a friend recommended Blink. 770 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: I was skeptical, but decided to give it a shot, 771 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: and I bought a Blink camera system. With our last 772 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: security system, false alarms, wires everywhere, and monthly fees, we 773 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of my bad But our Blink system 774 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: is different. 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With Blink camera system starting under 784 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: eighty bucks, home security just got easier. Go to blink 785 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: Protected dot com, slash Secure blink protect dot Com slash secure, 786 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: blink protect dot com. Slash Secure Blink is an Amazon 787 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: company and it works with Alexa. My next guest is 788 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: a wine enthusiast. My wife is going to love this interview. 789 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: She is a wine and found of l C S 790 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: Entertainment LLC. If he's just love Corkscrew Wine. Love Corkscrew 791 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: Wine is a lifestyle brand. Since its inception to l 792 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: C has brand has part of fifty locations, including Ariano's, 793 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: which is in Chicago. One of my favorite grocery store 794 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago is Mariano's, Whole Foods, Target and other Chicago 795 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: Land area stores, restaurants and bars. Please work on the 796 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: money making conversation for Seawan lately. Hello, we lost her 797 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: after that great interview. I had to talk about it. 798 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: You think she's somewhere drinking. This was just she's been 799 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: a wine enthusiasm She's okay, cool, she's not that. I'm here? 800 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: Did it? Did we just didn't press the RIGHTE button 801 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: for your lamp? I think so, yes, I'm here because 802 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: I just knew, you know, you know, you weren't somewhere 803 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: being a wine enthusiast. You know, well, how are you doing, 804 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: young lady? I'm doing great things all the way from 805 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: shy Town. I can't come to Lane. How are you say? Now? 806 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 1: What is the temperature right now in Chicago? Okay, so 807 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: it's in the fifties now now mind you forty eight 808 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: our No, I'm sorry seventy two hours ago like snowed here. 809 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying this. That's why I let people know 810 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 1: about your car. I live in Chicago for years, five years. 811 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: I know Chicago, man. You I have clothes that I 812 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 1: will never wear any places but Chicago because you better 813 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: be ready. Sure they're fabulous. Now you know your boy 814 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: come on that making it half and half. So let's 815 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: get back to you wine enthusia. What does that mean 816 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: when you said your wine enthusiasm? So actually I'm a 817 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: wine to Ghoston, so I am a wine maker. So 818 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: maker of wine to ghost on is another term meaning 819 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't actually crush the grapes myself. I forced them 820 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: from different men, doing this for years now, six years 821 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: in the game. A wine what's just that? Naw, that's 822 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: a French term. So I buy uh certain wines, a 823 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: certain greaks, if you will, from different vineyards, and I 824 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: actually create the formulas myself. So chemist wine maker or 825 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: whatever you'd like to call it. But each formula is mine. 826 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: And I've been in industry twenty years, but I've owned 827 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: my company six years and over fifties thousand bottles sold 828 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: and growing. Yes, she had shed. I just didn't know 829 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: what that meant. I took it out. Go ahead. I 830 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 1: don't know that it right back in that Sean Lampley's 831 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: and win right, it was right before wine and through. 832 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: I just took it out. I don't know what that means. 833 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: Right and found of l SC Entertainment LLC that features 834 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: love Corkscrew winse. That's approprity though, because now I know 835 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: whether nego Now let's talk about let's talk about this 836 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: whole wine business. I you know, I had a couple 837 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: of really uh interesting stories about wine because wine is 838 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: really big with be a basketball player, yes, yes, athletes. 839 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: In general, wine is associated with food, wine is Wine 840 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: is associated with sexy thiss, Ryan is associated with romance. Uh. 841 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: Often times people use the word wine and doesn't sound 842 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: like they'll get wine to there there children, Ye, And 843 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: so what makes wine crossed so many lines and doesn't 844 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: come across like Jack Daniels, which you know you don't 845 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: get much you can call the police, but I can 846 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: give my child. I can have a dinner. You know, 847 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: if somebody that dinner drinking Jack Daniel, what they steak 848 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: Somebody looking at him, is he an alcoholic because he drunk? 849 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: What's going on there? But you can have a glass 850 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: has a different field. You're absolutely all right. Wine. I mean, Jesus, 851 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 1: drink wine. I mean, wine is something that goes back 852 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: so so far, and it's it's more of a feeling. 853 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily okay, I'm drinking for an alcoholic content. 854 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: It's flavor, um, just like anything in a recipe in 855 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: certain seasonings. So it sets a tone, it's sets an experience. 856 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: It sets yeah, the sexiness. And there's so many intricacies 857 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: to wine. Um, it's not simple, uh, And there's so 858 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: many flavor profiles and so many different varietals and grapes 859 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: and it takes a long time. And not that's not 860 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: discounting the spirit industry. It's just saying wine can tend 861 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: to be a little more full as far as it's 862 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: the array of of types and varietals that makes it 863 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: so much more intricate and the very very difficult, complicated industry. 864 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: But still beautiful at the same time. And um, so 865 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: what is what is? What is Love cork Screw What 866 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: is that? So? Um? I started this company in two 867 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, Love cork Screw, um houses, I have six 868 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: different varietals. Um again, I'm gonna Gocianta Winemaker. I launched 869 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: six different varietals two thousand thirteen, and I'm in the 870 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: likes of Mariano's, Whole Foods, Target, Benny's, just the name 871 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: a few, and uh, I am a winemaker. So Love 872 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 1: Corkscrew kind of has the gamut of being the six 873 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: different ritals. Of course, I can't do everything. I'm not 874 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: going to be able to make the thousands of varietals 875 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: at different you know, brands, maybe to do, but as 876 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: a small batchline, I can do six, and more than 877 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: likely you're gonna like one of the six. And I 878 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: make it very very easy for consumers. A lot of 879 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: people cannot pronounce Brudeaux, Kianti, shown and Blanc. So what 880 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: they do is they buy Love Quarkscrew based off of 881 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: the labels and what they like. Like for instance, my 882 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: cab is We're moving on up. My my Pino Grigio 883 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: is good times, good friends. My reason is head over heels. 884 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: So you're able to call out a brand off of 885 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 1: a catch phrase, a certain varietal of my catch phrases, 886 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: which makes love quarks too, so easy for the consumer. 887 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do, and I think 888 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I've done that. Well. It's called marketing. And so you 889 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: sat down and and and they say, look, uh so, 890 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: who's your brand? Who is your brand appealing to? What? 891 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: What age? Is an age group or is it is 892 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: it a journal market? What is it? Because you're not in, 893 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: because you're in Mariano, I know exactly what Mariano's His 894 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: whole foods a very selective audience target and those are 895 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: very selective audiences which are really really will appeal to. 896 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: It's wine you on this shelf. How do you Because 897 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: I've done in these stores and there's competition, how do 898 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: you break the wall competition? You know, it's very difficult. 899 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: And I will say definitely I fit the general market. 900 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: Um as an African American wine maker, of course I'm 901 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: an appeal to allow of the African American market, but 902 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: it's not just specific to that. My labels are so 903 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: appealing to everyone just because they're so colorful. So definitely 904 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: general market. But wine drinkers, I would say that I'm 905 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: really veering towards um Are forty four, you know, the 906 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: the young professional. But oh my god, gosh, some of 907 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: the high end wine somalis in their fifties and sixties 908 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: love my wine as well because they enjoy a little 909 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: bit of everything. So yes, it's very difficult to stay 910 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: on the shelves. I'm fighting NonStop just for the small 911 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: amount of shelf space I have. But I think love 912 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 1: quirks who appeal is just off as an attraction because 913 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: the number one reason why people buy wine off the 914 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: shelf are the labels, Number two the price, and number 915 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: three of the taste. Um So I'm hitting all three. Uh, 916 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think love couksy is very fun, exciting and 917 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: appealing to everyone. Now now you're you're you're an expert. 918 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: So we're sitting down. So there's certain wine that you 919 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 1: drink with certain food correct, Yes, yes, okay, it's very important. 920 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: I've watched my wife, you know, sit over there and 921 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: she goes red or white and you know, give me 922 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: lemonade as lemonade water good. So so I'm eating the steak, 923 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 1: what what you know? And we're talking only your lines, 924 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: you have six different lines. What would I do with 925 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: a steak or what what what? What brand or what 926 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: selection would I use for a steak? That would be 927 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: my cabinet Sanian, which is we're moving on up, So 928 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: the easiest right way. I always tell a lot of 929 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: the people that I teach about wines um and educate 930 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 1: about wines just seriously think of it as the seasoning. 931 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: So if you have a good steak in your home, 932 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: marinating your steak, what do you normally marinate you're steaking? 933 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: What do you normally dress you're steaking, whether it's the 934 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: bosomic vinegrette, whether it's pepper um, you know, different deep, 935 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: muddy things that you would make around a steak. So 936 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: that that's what makes sense to a muddy, deep peppery wine, 937 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: which would be my cabinet song Yon and I use 938 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: another great example of the opposite. Let's say you're at 939 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: a steakhouse. You're at the best steakhouse in the country. 940 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: You have your steak, and I like my steak walking right, 941 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: I like my medium rare, and I say to the 942 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: you know what, can I have a cup of sugar 943 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: and I take a cup of sugar, and I take 944 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: a spoon and I put it on top of the steak. 945 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: Does that sound good? No? So why would you drink 946 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: a sweet wine with your steak? So it's literally just 947 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: thinking of what makes sense butter fish, Oh, chardonnay, which 948 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: is normally buttery. So it's just that simple. Okay, we'll 949 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 1: say that one more time. That was really smart information. 950 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: So now, because I want to impress my wife, next 951 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: time I go out and just go you say something like, 952 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, babe, listen to me, this is buttery. To 953 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: go down that little that little, that little description in 954 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: your head because I was really smooth. 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