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Speaker 1: Yea talking about experience morning. Everybody's d J n V.

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Speaker 1: Charlamagne and to God we are the breakfast club. We

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Speaker 1: got a special guests in the building.

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Speaker 2: Swizzy Zone Zone Zone Zone Zone On y'all, y'all smell

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Speaker 2: like new money in the head. This building is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Swiss say he smelled new money, then we must really

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Speaker 3: smell like now new money smell.

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Speaker 4: Well, Swiss is here.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Now you decided to drop a.

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Speaker 5: EP, You're back in your music bag?

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Speaker 4: What got you back in the bag?

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Speaker 2: I got a phone call from my Virgo brother and

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Speaker 2: I two years ago and he was like, Yo, you

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Speaker 2: know I need you to do me a favor. Massive

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Speaker 2: Pill is representing the Hip Hop fiftieth and we're doing

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Speaker 2: something with producers and I was like okay, and he

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Speaker 2: was like, Prima gonna do Valume one, You'll do Volume two,

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Speaker 2: think hit Boy and a couple of other producers. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let's do it. But I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you that the two years went so fast. I got

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Speaker 2: a phone call it was like, you know, you're up

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Speaker 2: next for your for your EP, and I'm like what,

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Speaker 2: And so I'm not gonna lie like when I first

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Speaker 2: was when he first told me I wasn't taking it serious.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, I'm gonna just get five songs

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Speaker 2: as it got close, I was like, not everything count

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Speaker 2: just put anything out. So then I started taking the

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Speaker 2: project serious and and we hit and here we are now.

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Speaker 3: But the crazy part is if you was up against

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Speaker 3: the deadline to have Jay Electronic album on a project,

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Speaker 3: how did you catch that You're waiting on a Ja

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Speaker 3: Electronic nic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you about We love Jay Electronic.

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Speaker 2: He's a very special guy. So I dropped. I dropped

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Speaker 2: the commercial for the for the for the EP. I

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Speaker 2: get a call from Jail Electronic. Yo, I gave you

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Speaker 2: my word. I'm you know, I told you I was

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Speaker 2: gonna give you a verse. I'm I'm ready to do

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Speaker 2: it like what we're doing, like I need, I need

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Speaker 2: you to change the track listing. So people noticed one

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Speaker 2: track listen came. He wasn't on that track. He was

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Speaker 2: on the next track. Listen. It is the fastest I

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Speaker 2: ever seen him say music. So I was happy that

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Speaker 2: he was inspired by what he was singing and was

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Speaker 2: just like yo, he gave me the He gave me

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Speaker 2: the verse in thirty minutes. Really yes, wow, And so

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Speaker 2: you had to send it to him he worked with

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Speaker 2: him in the studio, or you send it to he

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Speaker 2: was in Egypt somewhere.

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Speaker 4: That's what I said, because you're in Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere.

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Speaker 3: How do you pick who you want on a project

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Speaker 3: that's only five six songs?

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Speaker 2: Though it was pretty it was pretty easy. I actually

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Speaker 2: some of the younger artists, you know, because I talk

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Speaker 2: to them every day. We don't necessarily talk about music,

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Speaker 2: but it's just like, you know what, since we speak

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Speaker 2: every day, let's let's have some fun as well. You know,

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Speaker 2: I speak to Dirk the boogie five year old. You know,

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Speaker 2: we kicked it with him from when him and my

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Speaker 2: wife did the track bad Man dra like what they

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Speaker 2: inspired myself. I didn't want it because it's the hip

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Speaker 1: Out of that space. Actually, now, what about Scarlup? I

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Speaker 1: see you work with Scarlet Orders from the BX. That's

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Speaker 1: the video I posted a couple of weeks ago. So

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Speaker 1: how did you get up with Scarll Lub? I met

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Speaker 2: She good, She's a good person. She a good person.

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Speaker 2: I think that, you know, like the song that she

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Speaker 5: Are you doing our whole project?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: So she signed to you or no, I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I think she's going today to sign. I think I

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Speaker 4: So hopefully she closed.

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Speaker 5: Probably helped to close the deal if the whole project, they.

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Speaker 2: Probably she got she got a lot of options on

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Speaker 2: the table. You know, I could just stare in the

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Speaker 3: When you say the city sounds like, do you feel

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Speaker 3: like this is what you want the city to sound like,

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Speaker 2: We don't want the city to sound like. That's how

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Speaker 2: I said, this is what the city is supposed to

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Speaker 2: sound like, just because like you know, when I was

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Speaker 2: Sound like I'm in Atlanta, or it sounds like I'm

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Speaker 2: somewhere else on Africa now too, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So like as much as possible, I want to contribute

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Speaker 2: those records that you know that that just feel good

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Speaker 2: having an identity in New York. It's like very very important,

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Speaker 2: Like people used to just travel here just to get

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Speaker 2: you know. So like that's why like even the Scarlet

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Speaker 2: like you know, just trying to get back to that.

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Speaker 2: But now New York, don't you know, Like even the

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Speaker 2: But I still got to give people like some of

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Speaker 3: How come you think y'all never got backlash as Rough Riders,

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Speaker 3: because there was a time where your production was it

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Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted problems. They probably you know

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Speaker 2: used to head through the rumblings like, no, that's not

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Speaker 2: really was feeling it. You know, it's like, nah, that's like,

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Speaker 2: what's that? Because Atlanta wasn't like what it is today.

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Speaker 2: They was like, Yo, that's that Bama stuff. And they

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Speaker 2: it and I produced it. It don't get no more

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's different artists that that's

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Speaker 4: Now, what happened with with Versus?

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Speaker 1: I know one time, you know, Versus was everybody was

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Speaker 4: Then you said stop f with Versus because it was

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Speaker 2: So I never said step with Versus.

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Speaker 1: So, so what happened with with Versus and Trilla? And

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Speaker 1: some more Versus back.

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Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna get Versus back. You know, we're in

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Speaker 2: a We're in a great space. I actually liked that

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Speaker 2: we took a time out. It was getting wild. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna lie, you know like it was it was,

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Speaker 2: it was becoming crazy. But this time when we're coming back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna give you a full calendar, bigger verses. Well

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Speaker 2: I don't like to worry bigger verses, but just still

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Speaker 2: amazing schedule that people going to go crazy and y'all

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Speaker 2: to see this very soon, and then also with new management,

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Speaker 2: like with a whole new like take it serious, you know,

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Speaker 2: like this started out in our basements, you know, and

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Speaker 2: we turned into BT like overnight. So we had to

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Speaker 2: also let's show the artists how to treat it like that.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, shawing up late like how

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Speaker 2: I did today, you know what I'm saying, But treat

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Speaker 2: it like how you treating those other shows that you're

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Speaker 2: not getting nothing from technically you might get a beautiful trophy.

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Speaker 2: But like this right here, your streams going up seven

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. Mostly every artist that did Versus, they've been

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Speaker 2: on festivals and toys since Versus. You know, it actually

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Speaker 2: helped artists, and so like, you know, my thing is like,

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Speaker 2: how can we come up with a new schedule, how

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Speaker 2: can we have a real showrunner like treat it like

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a breath of fresh air, even

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Speaker 2: without us talking about it Versus. I hear about the

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Speaker 2: Versus every day, Not that all of them makes sense,

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Speaker 2: but I hear about the Versus every day.

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Speaker 1: It's good conversation. It keeps it keeps the culture talking.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's like I tell everybody, it's it's

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Speaker 4: But that night, the Locks took it serious.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes Fifty and Wayne so interesting because they

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. I see where you're going with it.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing I did with no commissions, took

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Speaker 2: I actually know what I have, Actually, you know, know

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Speaker 2: You're getting to see the real fans. You're getting to

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Speaker 2: That's like wow, like fully dressed, like going shopping, like

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Speaker 3: So he was making nights of it that Joe's got

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Speaker 5: You made a night of that, like you know this is.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you to man, you know, rest

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Speaker 3: But I also I wonder, like, when you go away

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Speaker 4: What do you.

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Speaker 2: I just don't, you know, honestly, it don't even feel

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Speaker 2: I speak to his son, I'm like WHOA. I see

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Speaker 5: He looked young. You look young.

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Speaker 2: He didn't look he didn't look young. He looked he

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was deep though, because it never happened with

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Speaker 1: What about musically? You know, I know you got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got you know, I revisited a

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Speaker 2: proper way, package that right for the people that they

435
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,199
Speaker 2: can have that experience and then get into like the

436
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 2: other songs and different things that he got laying around

437
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 2: and yeah, and just let it happen organically, you know

438
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But it's held get he get dark.

439
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there thinking like, there's no way you could

440
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 3: do a DMX biopic because who's going to play DMX.

441
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 3: I've never met a human like DMX in my life

442
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 3: that was a different type of spirit man, like he

443
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 3: was a one of one.

444
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 2: My brother that Michael was the brother that played DMX.

445
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 2: Oh that passed away, Michael Michael Williams. Williams he could

446
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: play DMX, which is why we had him in the

447
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: tribute and you know, rest in peace to him too.

448
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 2: That was crazy to me, you know, because we were

449
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 2: thinking about doing a play and he was going to

450
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: play DMX and this is why he was doing the tribune.

451
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 2: And I remember him saying like, Yo, I'm doing this

452
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: tribute because me and DMX is more like than you think.

453
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, I can feel your energy

454
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: like it felt like I was looking at dog like

455
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like that was. I don't think

456
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: nobody can get closer than he was energy wise to

457
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: what I've seen.

458
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: X Now what producers out there you feeling now you're

459
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: listening to what producers you think got it?

460
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: I like where metro Booming is doing a lot. I

461
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: like what hip boy is doing. I like that he's

462
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 2: taking the risks, you know, not only messing with his genre,

463
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 2: but like going and doing these volumes with knives. It's

464
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: a lot of producers. I like, you know what I'm saying,

465
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: But I do urge the producers to like work on

466
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: their identity what you mean, meaning like you know, without

467
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: a tag on some of the songs, you won't know

468
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: what producers is, which you see what I'm saying. So

469
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: like that's just something that carried myself, tim for real

470
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: Dre Like you can just blaze yay, like you can

471
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 2: hear those beats with no tags on it and no

472
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 2: premo what it is, right, And so like a lot

473
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: of people like they get on me with like my snare.

474
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: I'm tired of the snare as well, but it's just

475
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: a part of the signature and those are certain things

476
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: that you're doing that, people know like, oh that's a

477
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 2: Swiss beat, whether I'm doing an AE lib on it

478
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: or not, right, And I just feel that, you know,

479
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: your identity is going to carry you way longer than

480
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 2: just having a hot song for the for the moment

481
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: on that artist and when that artist decided to move

482
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: away or whatever, Like it's just going to be harder

483
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: for you to climb that hill if you don't have

484
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: that signature sound and the person that's sitting right over

485
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: here can loop it up real quick and just do

486
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, And I don't know, I just I just

487
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: I just think that's why I said, I like what

488
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: Metro is doing. I like I like what hip Boy's doing.

489
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: Must have got a sound, you know like this. There

490
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: are producers with time, but I just want more producers

491
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: to come with they sound and step in the front,

492
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: like and be the superstars themselves, because a lot of

493
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: producers don't you don't even know what they look like.

494
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I think that's dangerous.

495
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 5: Really, why do you think it's dangerous?

496
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: Because like I just feel they're leaving a lot on

497
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: the table, you know, like like you as a producer

498
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: is an artists as well, right, so like how Metro

499
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: can do it? He just did that Coachella and be

500
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: a headline Like as a producer, like why would you

501
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: leave all of that on the table? Like you should

502
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: be the superstars as well, and you don't even have

503
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: to rap. And I just feel like they're leaving a

504
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: lot of money on the table by just you can't

505
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: identify what they look like. You can identify they sound

506
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: by a tag, but I guess I guess people just

507
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: want to play the background. That's cool too.

508
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: That's interesting though, because like when you look at people

509
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: who could be on the mount rushmore of producers, it's

510
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: definitely people who step to the forefront.

511
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: Of course on purpose, you know facts, it's it.

512
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: Was one of the best best things I ever did

513
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: was move to the front. Like a lot of producers

514
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: that I came up with, they feel like they don't

515
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: get they just do. But they was also being quiet.

516
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: They wasn't really fighting for it, you know what I'm saying.

517
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: So like once again, like when the person didn't know

518
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: what you look like, they don't know what you don't

519
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: got no tag, you don't have no identity, It's gonna

520
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: feel like you're not getting represented. You're not representing yourself right.

521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: You know you think you being a DJ helped with

522
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 3: that too, for sure, because I remember hearing Jay say

523
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: that one time I forgot what he was talking about.

524
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 5: He was like, jail get the I mean Swiss will

525
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: get the dancing on you and scratching and turning around.

526
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: You know, look, I I used to stand on tables

527
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: to sell my beats. You know what I'm saying, You

528
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: go in that room because people airs are so numb

529
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: when you go to the labels, they so jaded. Everybody

530
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 2: so numb, everybody looking for the next they don't even

531
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: know what they're looking for. So you gotta like show

532
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: them like they missing out on something. Like I even

533
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: had to come up with a strategy to be like, yo,

534
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: I did this for such and such, but I'm gonna

535
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: just let you hear it. And then that person end

536
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: up wanting to take that beat. They gonna they pay

537
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: more of the whole thing. So I had to like

538
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: use different strategies because artists don't really know what they

539
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: like most of the times, you know what I'm saying. Like,

540
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 2: as a producer, they want to look for to their

541
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: front overhead, they want to look looking around the room.

542
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: They want to feel the energy. So I was like, oh,

543
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I got to bring the energy. So I'm breaking down,

544
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: like I'm making the choruses for them. I'm giving them

545
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: the flow. I'm telling them what it could be and

546
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: making them visualize. They think about being at the party,

547
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 2: they thinking about a chick that they got waiting outside

548
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: or something like that. So my job was to make

549
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: it easy for you to just plug and play right.

550
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: So like most of my music had no samples, had

551
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: the chorus and already, so all the artists had to

552
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: do is fill in the blanks. Like That's how it

553
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: really got so much work done because I was doing

554
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: the work for the artists.

555
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned Jay, Are you and Jay back in

556
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: the lab working at all? Because people, you know, people

557
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: have been saying that you've got a bonus track that

558
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: you haven't released yet.

559
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: But I don't know why, but people are assuming it's

560
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: a whole record.

561
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: They're always assuming this whole hole is very, very rich

562
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: and is enjoying his family and is enjoying his time.

563
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna bother hole right now. I'm not

564
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: even you got to read the room, you know what

565
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, the man is the richest he ever been

566
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: in his life today. Let him enjoy the vibe that

567
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: he's on right now. He's gonna get hungry and I'm

568
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: gonna be available. And that's everything is just timing with Jay,

569
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He's just a massive amount

570
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: like he wanted every day, Like he'll call me and

571
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: just give me fifty bars. I'm like, what we're doing

572
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: with that? Nah, just finished working out? Like, okay, what

573
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: we're doing with that? It's like I don't know yet.

574
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: Like his rolodex of music, he's very very prepared, so

575
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: he just call a rap for you. Yeah, just like yo,

576
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: check it out. Boom boom, boom boom. I'm just sitting

577
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: there like, man, we're dropping this tomorrow. What we're doing?

578
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: He's like, Nah, I just finished working I just I

579
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: got got something off my chest. I was like, okay,

580
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: it's something more off your chest. That's it sounds like

581
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: what the people need.

582
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 5: Why y'all get so close? I don't think people talk

583
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 5: about that.

584
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: I know Jay since I was seventeen, you know. I

585
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: met him through my uncle D in his office, and

586
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: that same night we went and did a four or

587
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: five songs if I Should die coming to Age two,

588
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: uh Jigger, and another a couple of other songs that

589
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: never came out. Y'all did all those in the same night,

590
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: same night? Wow? Yeah. I had a cassette I had

591
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: to concept with like fifty beats on it, and he

592
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: played it and it was just like and then d

593
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, Jay say he wanted to go in

594
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: to the studios the night. I'm like, what tonight. He's like, yeah,

595
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: he vibed me with a couple of songs off off

596
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: the cassette and we never stopped. Like since then, he's

597
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: just been since then.

598
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 5: Those are classic. That's when he must have been working

599
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: on a volume two then Knock Life.

600
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was working on volume two.

601
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 4: Wow.

602
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: Another record that people don't talk about is the It's

603
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: one of my favorite hip hop records ever. Why We

604
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: Die with x J and Buster.

605
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

606
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: That shit is nuts. Like, people don't talk about that record.

607
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: No, he got a lot of gems people don't talk about.

608
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: He got a lot of gems him and Nas too.

609
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: Now I's got gems that people don't. You got to

610
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: dig into crates and be like, yo, like you know,

611
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: remember he did that, Like, nah.

612
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: You remember the why We Die session or dope, y'all

613
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 5: didn't do that together.

614
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think we did that one together because

615
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: Jay was moving quick, like you know, he was like

616
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: officially the first person that seen not write music because

617
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: I was like it was bugging me out at first

618
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: because I was just like, how is he doing this

619
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: so fast? Like he just how is he writing like this?

620
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: Then when I seen him in the studio, like he

621
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: didn't have no page out, he didn't have nothing. He

622
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: just was put that back. I'm like, he's writing right now.

623
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he don't use paper. I'm like, that's wild,

624
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I heard Big didn't write,

625
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: and then I started seeing Kiss like not use paper,

626
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: and I just was buzzing, like how do you write

627
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: without using paper? You know what I'm saying? Like Jay's

628
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame for writing and never wrote lyrics.

629
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

630
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: Kiss on right now.

631
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: He used to Kiss, Stop Kiss, stop writing on paper

632
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: a long time ago, like years and like during the

633
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: rough Rider main ever, Kiss wasn't using.

634
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Paper, So Kiss just coming here the same thing. Just

635
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: let me hear the beat and just go.

636
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Mmm, he's just walking around. You just see him sweatsuit on,

637
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: just walking around doing some like just with his edge,

638
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: just walking around. Pull it back, pull it back. I'm

639
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: ready and they ain't just going.

640
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: That's something he must have learned that from Big then.

641
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I know Big was the first

642
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: one that they was. I never seen Big do it,

643
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: but they was always talking about. I remember him coming

644
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: from the studio and be like, yo, Big, and use

645
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: no paper. He he's an alien, you know, like, That's

646
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: one person I wish I would have worked with. Was

647
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: was Big. I seen him in Atlanta. We was at

648
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: Atlanta Live and I remember he had the lamb rover,

649
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: like a burgundy lamb rover. And then I spoke De

650
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: introduced me to him and he was like, man like,

651
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: one day we're going to get up like you know

652
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I want to do something with

653
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: your beat. Shorty. He kept saying, Shorty, shorty, and I

654
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: was like, all right, let's do it, let's do it,

655
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: And I was I've never seen him again.

656
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

657
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always want you know, you talk about you

658
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: talk about whole x kiss. What do you do with

659
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: all this unreleased music. You just say, you have two

660
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 3: songs from Jay that y'all never put out, Like what

661
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: do you do? You just got to sitting somewhere.

662
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: But he got those early songs. He has those early songs.

663
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't really have too much Hole playing around like that.

664
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: Like that.

665
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: He's pretty purposeful. Like if he's doing something, it's actually

666
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: it's going out. It's going out for something. It's not

667
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: like Guru probably got it. Guru got it, Probably got

668
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: the stash for Hole. I don't have the stash for Hole.

669
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: But I do have a lot a lot of unreleased music,

670
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: and it comes in handy sometimes because sometimes you need

671
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: that artist and like, you know what, I got this

672
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: right here and like all right, let me change, just

673
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 2: let me change that. The work is done right, So

674
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: you definitely need to have that archive. And when you

675
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: hear them versus conversations, what's your thoughts? Like, I know

676
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: we had Jim appear a couple of days ago when

677
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: he was talking about different verses, right, so we was

678
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: talking about Drake and Jay, and you know.

679
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: I think he was he was saying.

680
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: That Drake is the greatest rapper of all time.

681
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Right now, now, you being a guy that's been through

682
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: so many sessions, so many decades.

683
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? On which part greatest

684
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: all time?

685
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: I think I think like everybody's the greatest and at

686
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: a particular point, you know what I'm saying, Like, I

687
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: think Drake fulfilled a level for this generation that was great.

688
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: What I'm saying like, change the game strategically, did it

689
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: in a way that was financially amazing for himself. You know.

690
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: You know it's good when other people everybody's trying to

691
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: sound like you, Like that's you know what I'm saying, Like,

692
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty hard, Like just like everybody trying to

693
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: sound like Jay at one point. You know what I'm saying,

694
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: that's a great moment for a hole. And I think,

695
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: like when you mentioned greatest of all time, it's like

696
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: a lot of things that you gotta factor in, you

697
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Because like if I'm thinking like

698
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: the greatest of all times, it's like, how do how

699
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: do you judge that? Like do you judge that from

700
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: the business moves? Do you judge that from how many

701
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: records sold? Do you judge that from the consistency? Do

702
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: you judge that from the longevity Because like if we're

703
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: going to talk about that, I definitely gotta go to LLL.

704
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like l L, like like

705
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: that man is I've never seen a run like that.

706
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 5: He callined the time.

707
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like like l L. It's been

708
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: doing it since Rock the Bells and still getting new

709
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: money today, you knowee what I'm saying, and still look

710
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: great today as well. You know, and lyrically when when

711
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: when he was competing, he was he was he was

712
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: coming with smoke for sure, made songs for the women,

713
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 2: made songs for the streets May Maine, anthems for the stadiums.

714
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like Mama gonna knock you out,

715
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: and not to go to nostalgic on different things. But

716
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: it's just like when I'm when I'm thinking of like

717
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: graded some thinking like of a lot of things, I'm

718
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: not thinking about like who's hot like at the particular moment,

719
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: because I don't think that that's fair because we're saying

720
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: all time correct, you know what I'm saying, And so

721
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: like Jim might Jim could feel like that because of

722
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: how he's basing it. You know what I'm saying, and

723
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of people. I don't think

724
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: it's one person.

725
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: That's top five. Then my top five live take bigg

726
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: and pock out annex.

727
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: Damn against your top five. You can't do that.

728
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: You got me to because everybody.

729
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I'm bad with the top fives.

730
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm bad with with

731
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: the top fives because I say the top five and

732
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: getting a comedy like damn, I need to go do

733
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: this back and people take that time. They take it

734
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: serious serious, you know what I'm saying.

735
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's you know, these lists a bullshit because you

736
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: never know who's giving a list. You never know what

737
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: the top list is on. But somebody like yourself who's

738
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: produced for a majority of this artist.

739
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: And you've produced half of the time that hip hop

740
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: has been around the other half he was a fan.

741
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: That's why something you said does not hit me, because

742
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: it's like that is true about somebody like an l

743
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: Because we say greatest of all time.

744
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: The key word is time time, so we got fifty

745
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: years of hip hop. That's why I love Kendrick. You know,

746
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 5: Salute the Drake.

747
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: I can't put them in that yet because I feel

748
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: like it hasn't been enough time, like what eleven years,

749
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: twelve years?

750
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: But we said with with Drake, right, Drake, when do

751
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: you drop that album? What somebody said the other day

752
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: with two thousand and eight.

753
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 5: Or so far gone?

754
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

755
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: That's a good run, man, that's a great run. That's

756
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: a good run because like for me, if you, if you,

757
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: if you ain't did ten summers, you ain't even in

758
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: the conversation like that's how out the gate, like just

759
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: the enter the gates. You need ten summers, right, But

760
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: for me, I feel that like to really really really

761
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: be that person, you gotta be hot and cold at

762
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: least five times, meaning you have to come off your

763
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: run and reinvent yourself again. Come off that run, reinvent

764
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: yourself again. Come off that run, reinvent yourself again. Now

765
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: you in deep waters as far as like those great

766
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: words and all times things are concerned, because you know,

767
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: everybody can move when it's when it's pretty outside. But

768
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: when that snowstorm comes, do you got the right code on?

769
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: Can you survive that? Did you bring your gloves? And

770
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: I watch Jay do that, I watch Dog do that.

771
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: I watch so many artists, and you guys watch so

772
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: many artists come back and be like, oh, and then

773
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: we watch artists that can't come back. That was that

774
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: you couldn't even you couldn't even walk next to them,

775
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: and now you don't even care to talk about them,

776
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: you understand. So coming up from that, that's impressive to me,

777
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: Like when you can be the biggest and then go

778
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: through a little bit and then come back out bigger,

779
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: go through a little bit, come back out bigger, Like

780
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: that means that you really really hear, like you really

781
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: who you say you are, and the people feel that,

782
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: and the people gonna judge that. But it's it's going

783
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: to take you being creative to have to do that,

784
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: you understand. And that's why I do so many different things.

785
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: Like the conversation in twenty twenty three about me is

786
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: not the same as ninety eight. That would be a failure.

787
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: Camel racing. The camera comes to Swiss, Swiss on camel.

788
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk about that.

789
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: How the hell did you get into camel racing, Like

790
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: where did that come up?

791
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna get into camel racing.

792
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: It's my camera racing. This is a little prototype of

793
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: the jacket right here too now just for me, Like

794
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: traveling to the Middle East, particularly Saudi, I would always

795
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: see the races, and I was bugging because I never

796
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: seen I never knew camels ran like I think we

797
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: look at the camera like you're thinking the camels slow.

798
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: And so we was up late just watching the camel

799
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: racers like I'm like yo, and everybody that I was

800
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: around like they had a team, and I was just like, damn,

801
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: I want to, I want to I want to actually

802
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: do this. And then they was like, you know, if

803
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: you did this, you'd be the first American to ever

804
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: own the camel racing team. And once I heard that,

805
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm in. But it wasn't like

806
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: that easy. It took me like a year and a

807
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: half to get certified with the Federation and go through

808
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: like the process. I started off with eight camels, I

809
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: got about forty eight. Now we got about like twenty

810
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: twenty two trophies, which is huge, Like you know, we

811
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: want in Kuwait, we want in Abu Dhabi, we won

812
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: in oh Man, we won in bakh Range, we won

813
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: a lot even in Saudi. And it's a traveling team

814
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: and a lot of people like laughed at me a

815
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: little bit because like, yeah, what this was doing with camels,

816
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, like it's probably gonna be like

817
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: the biggest thing I ever did is get involved with

818
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: that and make the federation global. Is that it's serious? Wow,

819
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: it's serious. Serious, Like like the prize that the last

820
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: the last race was like the prize is like ninety

821
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: million what yeah, it's like not not not dollars. So

822
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: so it was probably about almost thirty million US. Yeah,

823
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: which is did y'all win? We came fifth place, We

824
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: got we got a little we got we got a

825
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: little check, you know what I'm saying, Like we got

826
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: a little check. But just being in that particular, the

827
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: first Allula race, just being in that race, that's like

828
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: that's serious for the brand because it's just it's the

829
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: hardest race of getting this is all of the top

830
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: top top dogs, you know what I'm saying, and like

831
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: and the people that own the team like they're megabades,

832
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, This is not no joke,

833
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Like they got thousands of camels that I don't got

834
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: thousands of camels, And so the being that race was

835
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: like it was super special and yeah, Saudi Bronx.

836
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: You know you always seem content, like you don't knock

837
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 3: in town of contents, right word, But you don't seem

838
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: like pressed. You seem very comfortable with who you are

839
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: and what you've done. You don't see that in a

840
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: lot of people.

841
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Like I don't know, people do

842
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: be seeing heavy, but I think that's that's that's because

843
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: of the people's surroundings as well. Like the way I

844
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: live now is I live on vacation and I go

845
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: to work dope, right, Like I changed my home mindset

846
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: of just living at work every day. You know what

847
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like no escape, Like they train us to work, work, work,

848
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: and then we got to kind of find a vacation.

849
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: And then I seen like a lot of my older

850
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: pears want to start living at seventy and I just like, yo,

851
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: Like he's dressing like my kids at seventy. He got

852
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: a twenty year old girlfriend at seventy. He just bought

853
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: a brand new house at seventy, Like you trying to

854
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: live at seventy. I want to live now, you know

855
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like we go so hard and I've

856
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: been doing this successfully since I was seventeen. I'm forty

857
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: four now, you know what I'm saying. So it's like

858
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: when we're gonna start living like when I'm sixty, you know,

859
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: like life is too short and I just I just

860
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: choose to just do different things. And I used to

861
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: have like a lot of people's weight on my back,

862
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, I to love you know what I'm saying.

863
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: But it's just like you gotta let people do their

864
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: thing as well, because what happened is it is just

865
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: nobody will grow if they could just call you every day. Yo,

866
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: it's only five thousand, it's only this, it's only that. Okay,

867
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: it's only that. Then why you're asking for it, right,

868
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. So I had to like

869
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: start saying no, the people had to just move the

870
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: chessboard around because like I was living for everybody else,

871
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: like I wasn't living for myself, you know what I'm saying.

872
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Like I was giving people in the street more time

873
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: than my kids. That's and that's retarded. I can't we

874
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: can't do that, you know what I'm saying. So now

875
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: my time is balanced more with my family and then

876
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: when I see my friends, I love them all. It's

877
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: it's cool, but before it was it was the opposite way.

878
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: And we're trained to be with the homies and were

879
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: missing all the games and all this stuff because like

880
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, even with nine said and and run Away,

881
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: how he was explaining that he wasn't the best with Destiny.

882
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that with my oldest son. I'm making

883
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: up that time today as we speak. You see what

884
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying, because like I thought it because I was

885
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: paying and he got all the fresh disk, the birthday

886
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: parties out of control, and then you sit down and

887
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: you'll know that none of that mattered. It's like, yeah,

888
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: but you know the time when I studied for my play. Yeah,

889
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: you sent me a gift to congratulate, but I would

890
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: rather you sit in that seat that hit that hit different,

891
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I'm saying. And so all that,

892
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: all the all the materialistic things the kids don't care about,

893
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: especially like they live with you like you. They not

894
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 2: in the Bronx. They're not growing up in the hood

895
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: like we did. You know what I'm saying. Like they

896
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: they on them planes with us, they on them trips

897
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: and boats and normal it's normal to the right, So

898
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: like you can't pay your kids off with What you

899
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: can do is pay them with quality time. You know

900
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: what I'm saying playing a video game. My hands is

901
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: hurting with Egypt, you know, going to kJ taking them

902
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: to his track meets and early in the morning, just

903
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: making the time.

904
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: That's the most difficult.

905
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it was funny earlier my wife was hosting,

906
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: so my daughter facetimed me and it's something about dad's love. Right,

907
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: So my wife didn't make the game yesterday, and I

908
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: didn't make the game yesterday. She gave my wife like, okay,

909
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: Mom's okay, but Dad, how come you didn't make the game?

910
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: Like she was really into it. You heard of today, right,

911
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and she pitched. This is the first time she pitched.

912
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: And she was like, and you didn't make the game.

913
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: So you know, it gives you a funny feeling, you

914
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But today they got games. You know,

915
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right at that right at that game.

916
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: I won't miss it for the world. Is Egypt still producing?

917
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Egypt is turning into something something different. He's turning

918
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: into something His mother put a lot of time into him,

919
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Like I've really seen her passing her gift, Like specifically

920
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: I think he might be giving her a run for

921
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: money at this point. Really yes, because he play every

922
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: day and so like he practiced probably about six o'clock,

923
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: and I just everything just gets quiet, and then you

924
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: hear like an opera. Now you hear like you hear

925
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: like some every day. Like where he's playing on the piano.

926
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: It's just blowing my mind. Sometimes I go upstairs and

927
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: looking like is that him or is that her? And

928
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: it's like him. Wow. So now he's taking songs that

929
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: that he made, that that he learned, and now he's

930
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: flipping them because he's like, I'm tired of playing like

931
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: all these songs the same way. So he'll make up.

932
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: He'll make it harder for himself to do it. And

933
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: I think he on the he came out here on

934
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: the Jennifer he did Jennifer Hudson Show. He comes out today. Actually,

935
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: how was he he was twelve? Twelve? Wow, it's happening

936
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: too fast?

937
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: And how happening too fast?

938
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: I feel.

939
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Second you seen my part of twelve?

940
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Growing fast? I was gonna ask how was the marriage life?

941
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Because you on the roll, wife's on the road, kids

942
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: have activities.

943
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: How is that?

944
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: It's great? I think that you know, like for me,

945
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: like having like a balance is key and having having

946
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: stability is key, and like people don't understand, like stability

947
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: is really the key, you un I'm saying, Like my

948
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: wife organizes the program. I maybe would be a good

949
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: follow because she's sitting with MO and they coming up

950
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: with the schedule and I have nothing to do with it.

951
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: Same way, you know what I'm saying. She's like, Yo,

952
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: this that boom. Oh you know this is the doctor's appointment. Okay, boom,

953
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: this is this? That's that like, and my wife is

954
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: on it every like she gets a kick out of

955
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Like I think that's the white side, Like you know

956
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like her

957
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: white side is organized, like she don't play, and it

958
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: made me be a better parent, you know what I'm saying,

959
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: made me be a better husband. Like we got rules

960
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: that we can't stay away for longer than two weeks.

961
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: You stay away after two weeks, like you come back home.

962
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: It's like meeting a new person, and I don't we

963
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: don't like that feeling, you know what I'm saying. So

964
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: like if she's on tour from anywhere, two weeks is

965
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: the max Max Max, and you really want to come

966
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: back like in a week and half. You don't even

967
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: want to stretch the whole two weeks. And so you know,

968
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: the key thing is like making time, you know, because

969
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 2: I was explaining to somebody, yes, sir, I was like, look,

970
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 2: we can make the time if I called y'all any

971
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: one of y'all today, was like, and you got your

972
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: daughter's game, And I'm like, yo, Envy, I got fifty million.

973
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: I need you to come here right now. I got

974
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: fifty million for you. No way, Yeah, you're right to

975
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: get to that fifty million and you're going to explain

976
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: to your daughter, lady, how you you know this? This

977
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: help everybody, our kids and our family. It's priceless, right,

978
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like I had to,

979
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: like I had to turn down a lot of money

980
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: and still do to be in front of them. We

981
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: don't get that time back, you know, And it's like

982
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: it's priceless.

983
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: And I just want to say, the black Side can

984
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: be organized too. I can already see Twitter thumbs getting crazy.

985
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: You know what, The black side is definitely organized, saying

986
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: Monique is always black. You know what I'm saying out

987
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: the yeah, eighteen years. I've been moving with me for

988
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: eighteen years. Last week make eighteen years. Wow, the unbelievable person.

989
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: Good people.

990
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: My album is out right now, The EP is out

991
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: right now.

992
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 5: Hip Hop fifty Volume two.

993
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: We appreciate you for joining us.

994
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: Brother, they gonna get next. You know who They're gonna

995
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: get next to do it. I didn't even realize this

996
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 5: was gonna be a series. I'm sitting there like, I

997
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: remember the premier one. They had that fire raps ay

998
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: and rimy record on that. Bro.

999
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: I think hip Boy might be next boy. I think

1000
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: hip Boy and next. I think Tim might do one.

1001
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's gonna be a decent little run. Okay,

1002
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: but I'm not stopping like this is like for me,

1003
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: I was like if I'm gonna come outside, like I'm

1004
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: not gonna just do the Hip Hop fiftyth and just

1005
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: go quiet. I got like four more projects. That's that's

1006
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: that's lined up.

1007
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 5: You got Scarlet.

1008
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't even counting that. Yeah, wow, Yeah, I wasn't

1009
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: even counting that.

1010
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: Who is it?

1011
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: It's just personal projects that I'm putting together, like yeah,

1012
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: but I want to keep them in short, just like

1013
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: this I don't people like, Yo, this should have been

1014
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: thirteen songs. Y'all know, y'all not listening to thirteen songs.

1015
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: I'm not listening to thirteen of my damn song, so

1016
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: I know you're not listening to thirty time. I think

1017
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: six seven is a good number because the attention that

1018
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose all those records, you know, it's just like, yeah,

1019
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: what's the focus on this right now? The focus is

1020
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: say less. I think the video come out today with

1021
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: Dirk and Boogie, and then we shoot the video with

1022
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: Scarlett Bennie and Kiss, and then we might do Runaway,

1023
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: or we might do the Wayne record. But by that

1024
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: time we already in the middle of the ocean, right

1025
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: So thirteen records for what I'm not doing those no more?

1026
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: Is it still hall few to clear samples from Jay?

1027
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: It's like nah, you know nah Jay. Jay actually loved

1028
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: the record, Like I said it to him. He's like, Yo,

1029
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Wayne is out of control?

1030
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: Did Jay do a verse of it? I don't know

1031
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: where that kissed the sample.

1032
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: I know where it came from. I think I kind

1033
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: of started that because I put featuring Wayne and jay

1034
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: z Z. Everybody started to saying Wayne and jay Z Wayne,

1035
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, jay Z's on the cars, but I

1036
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: sampled him on the cars. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1037
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: let's be clear. Do I want jay to do a

1038
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: verse on it if he's up to it. But like

1039
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: I said, you know that that man's enjoying his life.

1040
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm not calling him about no record right now. Maybe

1041
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: next week, next week.

1042
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: Well, the Swiss Beats, it's the Breakfast Club.

1043
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Good Morning Zone. Hold one second, we.

1044
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Got more with Swiss Beats. When we come back, don't move.

1045
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club on BET. All right, we got

1046
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: more with Swiss Beats. It's the Breakfast Club on BT.

1047
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back, we are to Breakfast Club. We got more

1048
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: with Swiss Beats. Keep in lock, we got more with

1049
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Swiss Beats.

1050
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: When we come back.

1051
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club on be et. That was the

1052
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: breakfast That was Swiss Beats on the Breakfast Club. We

1053
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: got don Key the day up next, don't move, it's

1054
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club on BT.

1055
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: Coat