WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Dying Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.480 Hi everyone, Hope you're having a good weekend. Here's a 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:07.680 podcast about dying from September nine, two. Uh. It is 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.479 My Stuff You Should Know. Select pick for the week 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.720 How Dying Works. This is a tough one, but necessary 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.800 and this may be as much or more so than 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.640 any other show we've ever done. We got a lot 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.480 of feedback on on just understanding the process of dying 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.240 literally physiologically. Has helped so many people over the years, 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:26.960 over the past five or six years, when their own 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.680 relatives are going through this kind of thing. So I'm 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.400 glad it's help people out in the past and hopefully 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.400 it will in the future. So, uh, enjoy maybe the 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.839 wrong word, but I hope you learned something today with 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.400 How Dying Works. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:49.839 production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.159 welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles w 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.880 Chuck Bryant, How you do It? Hey, and Jerry's over there. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:01.640 Jerry for the first time, just saw a meme that's 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.319 been out for a couple of years. Yeah, that's that happened. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.199 That's like when you rec rolled me like two years 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.280 after it was popular. You're like, isn't that the best? Well, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.560 I was lying in Wait, yeah, I thought that happened. So, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.360 And there's nothing more obnoxious than sending someone something and 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.160 be like sold it two years ago. Well, I'm so sorry. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.720 I tried to show you something funny, right, you know, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:25.000 but yeah, Jerry just saw the do we even say 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.800 the mumble mouthed reporter maybe, Yeah, the lady who supposedly 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.000 had a migraine but appeared to have had a stroke, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.640 reporting from the Grammy's in Los Angeles a couple of 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.559 years ago. Yeah. I still don't know whether it's okay 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.040 to laugh at that, because I don't know really what 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.560 happened to her. Well, we didn't laugh. We very solemnly 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:48.400 showed Jerry. Yeah yeah, and she laughed terrible. Jerry Station, Um, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.080 I've got one for you. I've got a bit of 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.920 an in show. It's not much, so get your hopes 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:55.920 up all right. Um? Have you ever heard of the 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:01.040 Population Reference Bureau? No? You have, big because I've mentioned 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.800 it before. I've mentioned this this article before. It's on 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.800 PRB dot org. It's called how Many People have Ever 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.160 Lived on Earth? And I don't know what we've mentioned 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.560 and maybe the population episode or something. But it's a 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.959 really cool little article by this demographer named Carl Hobb 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.480 h A U. B and he Um. There's even a 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.880 video of him explaining it if you couldn't get what 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.920 he was going with. But hobb Um he reckons that 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:32.200 modern humans people who are virtually indistinguishable from you or me, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.120 aside from the fact that they're not wearing like any clothes. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:41.400 Really um showed up about fifty thou years ago. So 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:46.519 hobb puts the population of humanity at two uh in 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:52.200 fifty BC. Okay, so from that point to two thousand eleven, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.799 he extrapolates, does the math, does this little demography thing, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.200 and hobb comes up with the number that one hundred 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.440 and seven billion, six hundred two million, seven hundred and 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:09.000 seven thousand, seven hundred nine people have ever lived between 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.240 fifty thousand BC and two thousand eleven. See, that's pretty neat, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.840 it is. That's a lot of people. He says. That 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:21.720 means about six point five of that are alive right 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.440 now or were in two thousand eleven. Al Right, so 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.320 we're dying off. That's the point. All one hundred and 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.360 seven billion, six hundred two million, seven hundred seven thousand, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.800 seven hundred ninety one of those people had one thing 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:40.000 in common, one thing aside from being humans, no, not 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.800 even not even yeah, yeah, they didn't have tax and 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.400 in fifty thousand BC they had running from sabre tooth 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:52.560 tigers death. It was death. That's the one thing all 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.320 one hundred and seven billions, six hundred two millions, seven 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.000 hundred seven thousand, seven hundred ninety one of those people 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.040 had in common. You know, when I was thinking of 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.640 your intro driving here today, I thought that'd be funny 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.120 if Josh was like, how long people been dying? Chuck, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.080 and you know what, this wasn't that far off. I 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.200 was like, he wouldn't do that. You're like, it'd be 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.360 way too boring. That's a good number. I like that. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:21.920 Hundred seven billion, six hundred two million, seven one thousand 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:27.240 seven seven Yeah, yeah, and that includes you and me, Pal. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:32.120 You know what that means. You're gonna die. I'm gonna die, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.920 Jerry's gonna die at least two or three times. We're 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.120 all gonna die. Yeah. This is our dying podcast, and 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.280 we have covered just about every aspect of dying. Can 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.000 you die from a broken heart? How rigor mortis works. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:51.120 What's the worst way to die? Um? Is there a 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.840 best way to die? Did we do that? That was 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.480 kind of in the is there was way to die? Yeah? Um, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.440 we've covered everything from autopsy, peak oil, what can be 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.640 done with the dead body? Ninja's Yeah, well Ninja, at 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.000 least you should know better than that. Yeah. We really 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.560 have danced around everything except just how dying works. And 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.039 this is gonna be a sad podcast in many ways 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.040 and gruesome in some ways. Yeah, because we're gonna touch 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.479 on some of this stuff we hit on in like 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.800 rigor mortris and autopsies and the actual dying process. Right, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.840 But I mean, so brace yourself. And I've mentioned this 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:32.760 guy scores of times at least, but as the it's 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.760 a Charles Man. You thinking of the great psychologist Ernest Becker. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.440 Shout out to our pal Joe Randazzo, who's like in 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:47.080 the Becker Now, Ernest, Ernest, Ernest, you're thinking of Max Ernest. Okay, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:52.000 Ernest Becker um wrote the Denial of Death seminal work 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.440 that basically says, we're all just doing everything we came 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.640 to think about our own demise, and there is some 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.240 sort of health, whether it's spiritual, emotional. There's some sort 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.840 of health or well being I think from facing the 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.279 fact that you're going to die and talking about it. Yeah, 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.320 so let's talk about death, baby, Let's talk about you 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:19.240 and me. Let's do it. Okay. So Molly Edmonds Um 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.560 who used to be on Sminty stef Mom never told 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.800 you we call it sminty Um wrote this one, and 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.159 I think it is interesting. And I usually don't like 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.320 it when article's day like the definition of blah blah blah. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.320 But it's kind of interesting that in the first encyclopedia 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.359 it was just the separation of the soul from the body, 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.200 and now it's you know, thirty times that long in 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.040 the encyclopedia, right, And that's just sort of indicative of 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.880 how we used to think of it and how I 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.800 don't know if it's ironic or not, but how medical 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.400 science has complicated that over the years. Yeah, well it's 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.800 definitely ironic because I mean, we used to be confident 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.000 that we understood death. It's like that person isn't moving anymore. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.200 If you ask him what he wants to eat, he's 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.120 not going to respond. If you choose something for him 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.000 to eat, like a block of cheese, it's not going 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.760 to be swallowed like, yeah, that's death. And since there 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:13.720 was perhaps a lot more religiousness associated with death and 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.600 dying than there is today, um, that kind of underscored 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.360 the belief and death. It's the soul departing from the body. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.640 And what what more do you want to know, egghead? 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.320 It's death? Well yeah, and uh, way back, you know, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.160 a fe d years ago, you'd call him a priest 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.240 and they they'd check the body, see if it's breathing, 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.760 and say, yep, they're dead, and that was pretty much it. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.880 The doctor wasn't even involved at that point. Well, there 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.880 may not have even been such a thing as doctors, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.800 and if there were, they were wearing like masks that 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.080 made them look like crows to protect them from the plague. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.160 So they weren't any better at its ascertaining death than 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.040 a priest was. That's true. When doctors did come along 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.120 and they invented things like the stethoscope, they could actually 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.280 check and see if there was a heartbeat. Before that, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.080 there was bal force test, which I couldn't find out 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.560 a lot about this other than you stick needles into 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.640 the heart with little flags on it and see if 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.040 the flags move. I think that's pretty straightforward. Really, yeah, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.960 I think that's about it. I mean, that's the test. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.320 I'll buy that. And there were other tests that like 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.480 a priest who may have come to say whether you're 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.560 dead or not, would use like placing a feather above 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.400 the mouth or around the mouth or knows to see 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.000 if it moves. Um, the old mirror mirror trick that's 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.240 still you know, useful, it is, but only if the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.000 mouth is still moist. If it's a dried mouth, it's 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.080 probably not going to fog up a mirror. Well, if 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.120 it's not breathing, it's not gonna fall up a mirror, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:45.120 right exactly. Um. So I said that medical science has 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.000 complicated it, and that's exactly what's happened over the years, 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.080 because as we progressed with medicine, we discovered a lot 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.000 of ways to actually reverse death, like bring people back 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.920 from the dead, whether it's something as easy as CPR 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.560 or as complicated as you know, machines to help you 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.680 breathe and feed you. Right, And not only that, we've 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:12.600 entered this really awkward period um in human medical history 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.760 where the machines that can tell us whether someone is 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.280 alive or not are more advanced than our machines that 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:25.800 can bring a person back from death. Yeah. So we 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:30.120 have ways to sustain the body, but not necessarily the 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:34.079 the person, depending on your definition of death, like the 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.360 faintest trace of a brain wave maybe right. Yeah. So 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.360 we went from holding a feather under somebody's mouth or 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.600 knows to see if they're alive, to using MRI s 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.600 to see whether there's electrical activity. And we're finding that 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.160 all of these old signs, these old outward signs of 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.240 death don't necessarily mean that the person is dead. And 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.200 even if the person is dead, we have technology, like 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.439 you were saying, to resuscitate them. The question is if 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.680 we resuscitate them and they're still not talking, they still 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.760 don't tell you what they want to eat. Yeah, are 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.000 they alive? Well? Yeah, and we in this hasn't been 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.640 that long, you know, I mean in the fifty two 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.720 thousand years or whatever the people have been dying. It's 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.640 only been the past you know, sixty something that we've 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.400 had to come up with terms like persistent vegetative state 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.080 and irreversible coma because of those machines that can resuscitate 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.199 or sustain a body. And that was when the French 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.840 neurologists describe the coma DePass, which was a state beyond 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:44.160 coma basically uh, brain death, although that didn't come along 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.440 until technically until nineteen when Harvard Medical School did UH 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.600 basically defined it for the first time. Yeah, although they 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.640 didn't even call it brain death at the time. What 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.800 they call it just irreversible coma like you're not coming back. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.080 Brain death was attacked on later. Um. So yeah, so 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:08.559 comma to pass umge, persistent vegetative state, brain death. Um, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.200 all these things would indicate again that you're dead. The 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.480 problem is is we have these machines that can keep 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.360 your body warm, and can keep your chest rising and falling, 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.880 can keep your body going indefinitely. Um. But the thing 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.959 is is there's something that's not there, and does that 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.160 mean you're dead. There's been a lot of talk about, um, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.600 exactly what constitutes death. Defining death is a very very 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.680 difficult thing to do, especially with through the advancement of 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.760 medical technology. It's kind of changed every time you come 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.319 with it. Okay, I got it. This is the definition 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:49.040 of death. Medical technology can provide some picture of a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.480 state of consciousness or life that throws a wrench in 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.480 the works, you know, yeah, and it's um. Actually, after 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:03.280 it took one a presidential commission is when they finally 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.280 in the United States wrote a paper called Defining Death, Medical, 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.720 Legal and Ethical Issues and the Determination of Death. That 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.880 was the basis for the Uniform Determination of Death Act, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:20.800 which basically rejected the Harvard idea that the higher brain, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.720 which is like when your personality and your memories are gone, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.880 the cortical brain that means you're dead. And they rejected 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.120 that in favor of the whole brain, which includes the 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.359 brain stem, which is what keeps you breathing and functioning. Um, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:40.120 they rejected in favor of that. So Harvard was like, right, Um, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.840 I I I don't know. I think I subscribed to 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:47.320 the higher brain death definition of death. Yeah. Um, the 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.320 brain stem, I'm yeah, it's pretty significant. Sure, Um, you 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.840 can be born with just a brain stem. We talked 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.840 about Mike the headless chicken before. Yeah, Um, he had 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.600 his head cut off which included his brain. His brain 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.600 stem still there and he's a chicken, so it didn't 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:06.319 really matter. Um, but that is a there's a huge 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.080 division between the two because there's a big difference between 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:14.360 breathing and being able to swallow for yourself and making 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.760 a conscious decision whether again what you want to eat 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.880 right there, or having memories or just reacting to people 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.320 aside from like you know, physical reaction. Right. Yes, and 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.600 that's one of the one of the there's a whole 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.960 article on brain death. Maybe we'll do that one. I 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.360 thought we did that now I think we did it 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.400 in the organ donation Procurement episode. We talked about brain 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.640 death and testing for brain death like they shoot ice 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.400 cold water in your ear canal. Definitely remember covering at 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.960 some point. Yeah, I think it was in the organ 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.200 donation moment where maybe living wills. Obviously we might have 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.960 touched on it there. We did. We did wills, but 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.760 we hit on living wills. But you know you mentioned organs. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.520 I don't think we said that. That was a big 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.839 kind of a quandary. In the nineteen sixties. Um, in 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.640 late I'm sorry, mid nineteen fifties, and then really in 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:07.160 the nineteen sixties is when we went oregan transplant crazy. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.880 Um actually kind of not just the United States, all 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.320 over the world. Doctors said, hey, we can actually give 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.640 people a shot at life because we can now transplant 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:21.760 kidneys and lungs and hearts. The problem was, and this 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.000 is sort of one of the sad things that Molly 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.120 points out, is that the definition of death kind of 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.280 came about, was hurried along, maybe because we needed organs 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.480 from these bodies that we're still technically alive, which is 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.240 a very ghoulish proposition. I mean, it makes sense from 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.640 a very utilitarian standpoint. It's like this guy doesn't even 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.920 know he's laying there. Yeah, and he's got a great 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.400 kidney that could go to his sister who knows that 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.240 she needs a kidney or she's gonna die, and she's 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.280 got kids that she wants to hang out with, and like, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.400 can put this kidney to good use, So let's let's 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.680 figure this out. But um, as Molly says, like most 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.840 developed countries have signed onto the brains where it's like 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:07.200 you're brain can no longer keep you alive, like on 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.880 your own, you can't swallow, you can't take a breath 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:14.560 for yourself, so you're dead. Um. The problem is that's 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.800 that's just that's different. That's a much m it's much more. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.920 It's a narrower definition of deaths. And I think that 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.000 that probably rules out a lot of people who might 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:32.240 otherwise be used to harvest organs harvest I know. Um, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.840 all right, so let's talk about death itself. It's funny 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.480 that you, well, it's not funny, but out of all 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.240 the different ways people can die, I thought it seems 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.760 simplified to break it down into three ways, but that's 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.560 really kind of the three ways. Yeah. I think we 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.120 talked about that in autopsies two. Right. Yeah, it can 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:52.720 be an accident obviously. Um, that's called the UPSI death. Yeah, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.680 the violent death, which is also an opsie. I guess, well, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:01.960 not an it's tragic, yeah, homicider suicide. So took, let's 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.120 talk about what it's like to die from different types 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.960 of death. You dug this upo, Yeah, because I really 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.440 wanted to know, like what is it like to drown 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.760 or to be burned alive? Yeah? And people have survived 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.320 some of these things, didn't come back to tell the tale. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.080 That's obviously the only way we're going to find this 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.560 stuff out or from lucky people. Um, drowning, I've always 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.080 heard drowning is a good way to go because it's 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.000 not so painful. Yeah. And then like the brain supposedly 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.480 releases endorphins at the end. Yeah, same with freezing I've 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.880 heard too. Maybe true. Um, although uh, drowning victims have 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:41.200 reported uh aside from the panic, a tearing and burning 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.680 sensation when your water starts filling with lungs and quickly, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.760 hopefully really quickly after that is the feeling of calmness 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.480 that overcomes in tranquility. Yeah. Um, heart attack. You've got 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.280 the squeezing chests, pain in your chest or your left arm. Yeah, 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.920 like I weight on your chest. Um. What I didn't 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.040 know is that because of the heart not delivering oxygen 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.840 to the brain any longer, you can lose consciousness. Um, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.600 within like ten seconds. Um, I didn't realize that. I 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.600 thought like it was there's a lot more to it. Well, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.320 it depends. You know, everyone has their own signature heart 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:23.360 attack as well. Um. If you bleed out, I imagine 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:28.280 this is not one of the best ways to go. Um. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.040 After about a liter and a half of blood, you're 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:34.320 gonna be thirsty and weak and anxious. Anything over too, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.480 You're gonna be pretty confused and dizzy and probably lose 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.880 consciousness pretty soon after. And all of that would be 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.879 that would relate to how fast you're losing blood, and 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.680 it would probably be very unpleasant depending on how you're 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.240 losing blood, Like why because you would imagine that if 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.600 you're stabbed in the gut or something like that. Yeah, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.720 you got the attendant pain in addition to this dying 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.159 from loss of blood or like man reservoir dogs. Yeah, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.520 that was like one of the most are ways to 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.600 open a movie or not open. But they cut right 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.639 to that scene after the diner scene, right after the 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:10.320 walk Yeah. Yeah. Um. Electrocution. Um, if you're in your 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.719 house and you get electrocuted, could stop your heart right 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.399 then and there. And if you're in an electric chair, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.520 you may have actually heated your brain up to the 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.240 point where you die or suffocated to death. Right. But 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:30.679 the there's indications that being electrocuted with enough voltage that 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:36.600 instantly you lose consciousness. That's the idea probably with the 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.960 quote un quote humane I'm sorry quote humane end quote. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.560 I'm gonna stop doing that. I'm going back to quote 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:48.119 unquote what if you fall from a height. If you 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:53.399 fall from a height, supposedly time slows, which is awful. Yeah, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.520 it's like, well, you're gonna experience all of this. Yeah, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:02.520 that's uh. Yeah, the idea that you that you really 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.320 can take it all in. That's really awful. So they've 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.240 they did a study of UM jumpers from the Golden 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.680 gate Bridge, which is seventy five ms what is that 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:20.320 two hundred thirty ft it's high enough, and they they 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.719 found evidence that a lot of them died from exploded lungs, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:28.280 exploded hearts, um. Their organs were all cut up from 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:33.400 their ribs, which would indicate death was pretty much instantaneous. Yeah. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.560 We talked about that on something too recently, I think, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.159 or maybe I heard it someone else talking about it. 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.960 It's pretty bad way to go. What the Golden gate 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.680 Bridge or just just falling dying from a height? Yeah, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.920 I can't remember. I was talking to about jumping in 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.359 the water. I was like, what actually kills you when 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.320 you jump in the water from the eye and it 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.440 was like your organs smashed into each other and explode. Yeah, 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.119 I guess from any height. Yeah, when you when you 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.960 die from that would be from organ explosion or whatever. Yeah, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:03.399 or you know the brain obviously if you go ahead first. Yeah, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.639 that's UM. The long drop back in the day with 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.159 although they still you can get hung in certain states 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.159 if you choose really yeah, Washington State, and now you 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.760 can huh. Um, you can choose that as your method, 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.600 they'll build you the gallows and uh. The idea that 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.119 there is you want your neck to snap, otherwise he 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.280 died slower and you know, suffocate. The problem is there's 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.440 a study of thirty or four prisoners that found four 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.919 fifths of them died partly from asphyxiation. Really, that's the 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.960 wrong way to hang somebody, if you if you don't 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:42.040 snap their neck or they don't lose consciousness immediately, Um, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.680 they sit there and hang and die of asphyxiation. That's 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.920 a bad way to go. Uh. And speaking of bad, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.320 I think being burned to death maybe one of the worst. 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.119 And then what we came up with on the I 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.119 think so because you feel it, and you'd think, like 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.080 your nerve endings, that's what I thought, like, Oh, your 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.840 nerve endings are probably like stop responding quickly. But apparently 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:07.560 that's not the case. No, not only is that not 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:12.440 the case, apparently you're fire further sensitizes your nerve endings, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.720 so you feel even more pain. Yeah, but luckily most people, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.560 I think the vast majority of people who die in 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.359 fires actually die from smoke inhalation before they ever feel 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.240 pain from fire. Yeah, that are well, I don't know 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.880 about before they feel pain, but hopefully quick enough. Well, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.720 you know, carbon monoxide sinks, so like well there's a 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.280 lot of smoke you are download to the ground and 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.160 that's where the carbon carbon monoxide is. So you're annailing 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.760 mostly that, So it's possible it's before it's true. And 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.880 then the natural death which is uh passing of old 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.879 age or disease. And here in this country we have 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.320 kind of whipped up a lot of the disease over 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.880 the years into into they've sniffed them off the case right, Well, 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.040 it depends like some of the ones that like kill 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.919 undeveloped countries, like diarrheal disease like dying from diarrhea. UM, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.480 you don't have that much in the US, but we 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:13.280 have chronic disease like obesity and diabetes and UM cardio 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:17.159 pulmonary disease. UM, we have that downpat. I've got the 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.320 top five here. Actually, I think they're all in there, 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:23.760 aren't they. UM Heart is number one, Cancer is number two, UM, 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.639 lower respiratory is number three, strokers for an accidents or 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.560 five and it's a huge drop. Cancer and heart are 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.600 close to six. Hundred thousand, and then number three at 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.199 lower respiratories only a hundred and thirty eight thousand. So 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.160 that shows you what cancer and heart disease are doing 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.280 in the United States at least. And the upshot of 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.760 all this is that most of us are not going 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:51.000 to die suddenly, um, either by accident or by violent death. Yeah, 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.200 dying of old days didn't used to be a thing. No, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.119 it was like, like a lot of ways to die, 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.360 but that wasn't one of them. You ticked off some 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:04.760 traveling night, or there is a dispute over grazing rights. Plague, Yeah, 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.119 you walked into a bear cave. Yeah, the plagues another 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.400 but um, yeah, old ages. It's kind of a new thing. 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:16.520 But it's one of the most um prevalent forms of 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.840 death in developed countries. It actually has its own name, frailty, Yeah, 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.960 which is great. It's sad, but it's great that now 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.280 we can live out our lives and and we're about 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.560 to talk about it. But sometimes the body, just like 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.560 any other machine, just stops working. It's not designed to 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:37.680