WEBVTT - Is Nick Nurse Leaving Toronto?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, So I love a coaching care ofself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things about the NBA is really

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of level of chaos and happening before the

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<v Speaker 1>carnival is even over yet. I'm not talking about em

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<v Speaker 1>Udoka rumors to Houston either, which have him linked to

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<v Speaker 1>Houston for the last couple of weeks. I am talking

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the most respected names in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>widely considered a top five coach in the league and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best coaches in history. Probably what he

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<v Speaker 1>did for the twenty nineteen Toronto Raptors with Kawhi Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable. Nick Nurse, this was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a shit show over year. We interviewed him before the

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<v Speaker 1>season started. It was a lot of hearts and flowers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody thought this team was gonna be pretty good. Pascal

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<v Speaker 1>Siakam had a career year. Ojan Andobi was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred van Fleet was really good. Yeah, Gary Trent Junior

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. But listen, did anybody think that there

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<v Speaker 1>would be this much dysfunction to the point where people

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to check in on Nick's status for the

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<v Speaker 1>following few years while he's sitting there under contract. No no,

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<v Speaker 1>it went off the rails really before it ever started.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had a weak start.

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<v Speaker 1>You had injuries to Pascal Siakam, you had injuries to

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<v Speaker 1>Scottie Barnes, you had injuries to og And Andobi, and

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty much set them back and they've been scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, hovering around the five hundred mark. As the

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<v Speaker 1>struggles deepened, grumblings about unhappy players started to arise make

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<v Speaker 1>their way out of Toronto, which is a very hush

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<v Speaker 1>hush organization by the way, so when rumors start to

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<v Speaker 1>get out, you know it's not good. Ognnobi Siakam, Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Van Fleet, even Scotty Barnes at times seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>tuned Nick Nurse out. After bad loss after bad loss

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<v Speaker 1>started to stack up, and also what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the trade deadline. Every player was rumored to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the chopping block and for the first time ever

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<v Speaker 1>after trading No One and trading for Yaka Bertle, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Nurse may possibly be on the hot seat, which some

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<v Speaker 1>of these NBA insiders have predicted since the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>I might imagine shout out to Jake Fisher, who did

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<v Speaker 1>see this coming for the first time in Nick Nurse's

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<v Speaker 1>career as an NBA head coach, he's had to address

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<v Speaker 1>these rumors. Let's just say, after hearing what he said

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<v Speaker 1>last night, I'm not so sure he's going to be around.

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<v Speaker 2>There for a long Here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when this season gets done, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>evaluate everything and even personally, like I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 3>a few weeks to see where I'm at, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, where's my head at, and just see

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<v Speaker 3>how the relationship with the organization is and everything. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been ten years for me now, which is a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good run. Right now, my head is to get this

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<v Speaker 3>and make this as long as season as possible. This

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<v Speaker 3>team needs playoff experience, right So that is where I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at right now. More, I thought that thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the reason you might not be back here. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I'm concentrated on this job for sure

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<v Speaker 3>and this game essentially. But I think that heaving ten

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<v Speaker 3>years is a good time to sit back and reflect

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, right So, I think that's where we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do that all when the season ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, does it sound like there's a possibility When

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<v Speaker 1>you hear someone say ten years is a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to sit back and reflect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're already reflecting me. They are already starting to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Their tickets to Cancun or Cabo or wherever they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do some thinking, some deep thought, maybe a monastery in Quebec.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He has one year left on his deal, has not

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<v Speaker 1>been offered an extension yet that we know about. And damn,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like his five years as Dwayne Casey's assistant

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<v Speaker 1>in five years as head coach in Toronto just might

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<v Speaker 1>be coming to a close. Eric Kareen of The Athletic

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best when he wrote this, In no

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<v Speaker 1>way is Nurse the primary problem with the Raptors. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when a coach calls out his team effort and energy

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<v Speaker 1>as many times as he has this year and the

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<v Speaker 1>results continue to be fairly poor, it's clear something is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, many things are wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Barring a surprisingly positive end of this Raptor season, a

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<v Speaker 1>coaching s change seems more likely than not.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn sheesh. I love some Nick Nurse. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of my all time favorite coaches and people

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Very insightful, as you can see even

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<v Speaker 1>from his interview, very thoughtful. People have linked him to Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>coach in Toronto because young guys are doing dumb shit

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<v Speaker 1>and they're tuning you out, I promise you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the energy for Houston, my guy, No, you don't. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any We talk about bad roads, six lane highways,

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<v Speaker 1>back to back traffic. You go from Toronto, Canada, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most progressive cities in the NBA, to a

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<v Speaker 1>full blown red state with crazy traffic and young guys

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<v Speaker 1>who just want to chuck all day like AAU players.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck No, absolutely, fucking not one thing is for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure if he wants to coach, he could coach. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be out out of a job for long.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably would win another chip. Again, Just not in Toronto, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>just not in Toronto. Oh, let's move on to Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a cute story. This is really sweet. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this and I said, we gotta talk about this on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Lebron James just opened a Starbucks. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>really news in itself. I'm sure he has lots of businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he owns a Blaze Pizza in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He has a ton of fingers and a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of businesses. Most of them are pretty damn successful.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is this Starbucks story news? Because he opened

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<v Speaker 1>it in Akron, Ohio, his hometown. And not only did

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<v Speaker 1>he open the Starbucks in Akron, it's being opened in

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<v Speaker 1>a part of town where Starbucks never ever ever opened

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<v Speaker 1>the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever go to the hood and see a Starbucks?

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<v Speaker 2>You ever go to the hood and see a Whole Foods?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck no, that's kind of like the correlating factor.

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<v Speaker 1>No Starbucks around, Get out, move on, Like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a newcomer, your tourist, don't be in that neighborhood. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a suburb, it's not a gentrified part of downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>It is across the street from two boarded up buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did Lebron James open it here? If you

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask, you probably don't know Lebron James well enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The simple answer is because Lebron James wants to transform

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown. The truth is the simple answer is that

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<v Speaker 1>he loves his hometown and he wants to build. The

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<v Speaker 1>more complex answer is because Lebron James thinks that these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Deserve a Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna make fun of the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>is like a very whitey like piece of luxury, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's more important things probably to open up in the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I did a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>In Atlanta and they and I'm not banging on Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James for doing this. I think it's great and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to it. But there's a side road I didn't anticipate.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I did a piece in Atlanta about gentrification

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<v Speaker 1>near the Mercedes Benz Stadium, and they said, when when

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<v Speaker 1>white people give their advice on how we fix our neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>they always say a coffee shop, and really what we

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<v Speaker 1>need is a laundromat and like a place where you

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<v Speaker 1>can get money to be loan until your next paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't think it's like a little funny anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just honestly a side note, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>more to it than the Starbucks. More importantly, it's two

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<v Speaker 1>blocks down from where the I Promise school was that

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<v Speaker 1>he opened, which if you don't know about that, we've

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<v Speaker 1>done pieces on it. It's incredible job training, school training,

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<v Speaker 1>job training for the parents of the kids who go

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<v Speaker 1>to the school. But there are forty six workers that

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<v Speaker 1>are not being paid just an hourly salary, but at

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<v Speaker 1>this Starbucks also earning valuable job trainingificates for the hospitality industry.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's basically like a vocational technical credit for working

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<v Speaker 1>at Starbucks. Who doesn't want to be a barista, get

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of the hood, just go to another

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<v Speaker 1>Starbucks somewhere else. Anyway, typical Lebron James, not looking to

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<v Speaker 1>just create jobs but also create careers. You can make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of him first corny takes. You can make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of him for lying incessively about things that are very

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<v Speaker 1>easy to disprove. But I don't know if anyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the league does more good with his money than Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>The building that houses the Starbucks is also going to

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<v Speaker 1>become a complex by twenty twenty four, containing a sports bar,

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<v Speaker 1>a wine room, even a Lebron James museum with a

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<v Speaker 1>full sized recreation of his spring Hill apartment six oh

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<v Speaker 1>two where he grew up in Akron with his mom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to have an ice cream shop, a clothing store,

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<v Speaker 1>and a concert venue. And of course, because Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>loves himself some taco Tuesdays, there's always also going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a taco shop only open on Tuesdays. Just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not groundbreaking news, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for people who see these sort of developments

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<v Speaker 1>go up, But it is pretty groundbreaking if you live

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<v Speaker 1>in Akron. These sort of multi use places being built

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<v Speaker 1>in a neighborhood that's not really being shepherded or invested

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<v Speaker 1>in is going to create long lasting change. Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>did this in parts of downtown Cleveland when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Multiple juice bars that

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<v Speaker 1>he opened, more white and more white tea things, really

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<v Speaker 1>fitness studios.

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<v Speaker 2>But it worked. It worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of players talk about giving back, which to most

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<v Speaker 1>players means just hosting a basketball camp, giving away some

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<v Speaker 1>t shirts, giving away some shoes. But he is literally

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding his town brick by brick. I would not be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if Lebron James opened up for Lebron James apartments,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James Apartment complex. Lebron James already has a school,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a Starbucks, he's got an ice cream store,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a taco shop. We're gonna keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on this. One day down the road. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to come visit, all right, Let's move on to something

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really news, but I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Who, if you had to guess, is the

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<v Speaker 1>least popular NBA coach of all time. If you give

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<v Speaker 1>an answer to anyone other than George Carl.

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<v Speaker 2>You are wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He has probably the most dislike coach in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a hyperbole, that is fact. Do not take

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<v Speaker 1>my word for it. Ask our guy JR. Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he had to say about his time

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<v Speaker 2>playing in Denver. He said, how do I put this?

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<v Speaker 1>George Carl wasn't the coach I thought he was when

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<v Speaker 1>I first got there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking he's a player's coach. I didn't even know him.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time I was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, if I never see this dude again,

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<v Speaker 1>I am good. There are certain people you vibe with

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<v Speaker 1>and certain people you don't. I get that, But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain people who just throw salt into the

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<v Speaker 1>pot just because they want to, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see what the outcome is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a lot of what DeMarcus and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other players are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the easiest person to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many players other than Jerr Smith that have decided

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<v Speaker 1>to come over the top rope on George Carl. DeMarcus Cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>of course long running beef with George Carl. He tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>out in response to Cousins taking shots at the King's

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<v Speaker 1>organization by asking.

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<v Speaker 2>What DeMarcus Cousins ever did for them?

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<v Speaker 1>They paid you fifty million dollars and gave you the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play professional basketball, Sir, George Carl, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that DeMarcus Cousins at one point was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most dominant big men in the game. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to Marcus Cousins. They didn't give him an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to play fucking basketball. I hate to tell you, George Carl,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of other teams would have been happy

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<v Speaker 1>to pay Boogie Cousins as well. Don't act like Sacramento

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<v Speaker 1>did some sort of favor to DeMarcus Cousins. He had

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<v Speaker 1>seven coaches in seven years there, and of course DeMarcus Cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>who was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him, Boogie.

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<v Speaker 1>He tweeted a snake emoji as his description of George Carl.

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<v Speaker 1>So he seems to be beefing with everyone in George

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<v Speaker 1>carl He said, also Doc Rivers, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>before two weeks ago, that Doc Rivers had been anointed

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<v Speaker 1>as a black coach, and now there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>four or five more anointments of the young Afro American coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say Afro American, please, don't. That's cringe.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that as if that's some sort of bad

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<v Speaker 2>thing for coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, to represent the players, the labor base

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<v Speaker 1>they have that's largely.

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<v Speaker 2>Black and brown. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems like former players kind of make sense to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he also took a lot of unrestsari shots at Nuggets players.

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<v Speaker 1>He uh whatever, for whatever reason, decided to say that

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<v Speaker 1>Kenyon Martin had all that money and no father's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Carmarlow's dad died when he was two years old. Kenyon

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<v Speaker 1>was raised by his mom and sister, and he says

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<v Speaker 1>that those two are his father figured. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Kenyon Martin. You already know he's not about this.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he was an awful and coward ass coach,

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible person, selfish, unhappy, miserable, the worst coach that

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<v Speaker 1>he ever played for.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I met Kenyon Martin in Cincinnati a couple weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me say that is probably the censored version

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<v Speaker 1>of what he would say behind George Carl's back, without

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<v Speaker 1>the media there to take note into record. It the

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<v Speaker 1>list of former players who have zero good things to

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<v Speaker 1>say about George Carl. The list is long, Gary Payton,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Kemp, Chauncey Billups, numerous others, and George Carl still,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, still tweeting about current players like John

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<v Speaker 1>Morant nineteen fifties takes on drum morand if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you make a list of most or

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<v Speaker 1>least popular NBA coaches, George Carl is literally the Kalisi

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<v Speaker 1>of that list. No one is as unpopular as him,

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<v Speaker 1>not a chance, and I don't think anybody will ever

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<v Speaker 1>make that list. Also, fun fact, George Carl accidentally spit

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<v Speaker 1>on me in a basketball clinic. I was sitting front

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<v Speaker 1>row and he just loogied all over me and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say a goddamn word.

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<v Speaker 2>So I personally don't like George Carl either,