Speaker 1: Oh boy, So I love a coaching care ofself. It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things about the NBA is really
Speaker 1: that kind of level of chaos and happening before the
Speaker 1: carnival is even over yet. I'm not talking about em
Speaker 1: Udoka rumors to Houston either, which have him linked to
Speaker 1: Houston for the last couple of weeks. I am talking
Speaker 1: about one of the most respected names in the NBA,
Speaker 1: widely considered a top five coach in the league and
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in history. Probably what he
Speaker 1: did for the twenty nineteen Toronto Raptors with Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. Nick Nurse, this was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a shit show over year. We interviewed him before the
Speaker 1: season started. It was a lot of hearts and flowers. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody thought this team was gonna be pretty good. Pascal
Speaker 1: Siakam had a career year. Ojan Andobi was really good.
Speaker 1: Fred van Fleet was really good. Yeah, Gary Trent Junior
Speaker 1: not so much. But listen, did anybody think that there
Speaker 1: would be this much dysfunction to the point where people
Speaker 1: are starting to check in on Nick's status for the
Speaker 1: following few years while he's sitting there under contract. No no,
Speaker 1: it went off the rails really before it ever started.
Speaker 2: So they had a weak start.
Speaker 1: You had injuries to Pascal Siakam, you had injuries to
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes, you had injuries to og And Andobi, and
Speaker 1: that pretty much set them back and they've been scrambling
Speaker 1: ever since, hovering around the five hundred mark. As the
Speaker 1: struggles deepened, grumblings about unhappy players started to arise make
Speaker 1: their way out of Toronto, which is a very hush
Speaker 1: hush organization by the way, so when rumors start to
Speaker 1: get out, you know it's not good. Ognnobi Siakam, Fred
Speaker 1: Van Fleet, even Scotty Barnes at times seemed to have
Speaker 1: tuned Nick Nurse out. After bad loss after bad loss
Speaker 1: started to stack up, and also what was going on
Speaker 1: in the trade deadline. Every player was rumored to be
Speaker 1: on the chopping block and for the first time ever
Speaker 1: after trading No One and trading for Yaka Bertle, Nick
Speaker 1: Nurse may possibly be on the hot seat, which some
Speaker 1: of these NBA insiders have predicted since the off season.
Speaker 1: I might imagine shout out to Jake Fisher, who did
Speaker 1: see this coming for the first time in Nick Nurse's
Speaker 1: career as an NBA head coach, he's had to address
Speaker 1: these rumors. Let's just say, after hearing what he said
Speaker 1: last night, I'm not so sure he's going to be around.
Speaker 2: There for a long Here's what he said.
Speaker 3: I think when this season gets done, you know, we'll
Speaker 3: evaluate everything and even personally, like I'm going to take
Speaker 3: a few weeks to see where I'm at, you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, where's my head at, and just see
Speaker 3: how the relationship with the organization is and everything. It's
Speaker 3: been ten years for me now, which is a pretty
Speaker 3: good run. Right now, my head is to get this
Speaker 3: and make this as long as season as possible. This
Speaker 3: team needs playoff experience, right So that is where I'm
Speaker 3: at right now. More, I thought that thank you for
Speaker 3: whatever the reason you might not be back here. No,
Speaker 3: I think that I'm concentrated on this job for sure
Speaker 3: and this game essentially. But I think that heaving ten
Speaker 3: years is a good time to sit back and reflect
Speaker 3: a little bit, right So, I think that's where we're
Speaker 3: going to do that all when the season ends.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, does it sound like there's a possibility When
Speaker 1: you hear someone say ten years is a good time
Speaker 1: to sit back and reflect.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're already reflecting me. They are already starting to get.
Speaker 1: Their tickets to Cancun or Cabo or wherever they're gonna
Speaker 1: do some thinking, some deep thought, maybe a monastery in Quebec.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He has one year left on his deal, has not
Speaker 1: been offered an extension yet that we know about. And damn,
Speaker 1: it looks like his five years as Dwayne Casey's assistant
Speaker 1: in five years as head coach in Toronto just might
Speaker 1: be coming to a close. Eric Kareen of The Athletic
Speaker 1: some of the best when he wrote this, In no
Speaker 1: way is Nurse the primary problem with the Raptors. However,
Speaker 1: when a coach calls out his team effort and energy
Speaker 1: as many times as he has this year and the
Speaker 1: results continue to be fairly poor, it's clear something is wrong.
Speaker 2: Really, many things are wrong.
Speaker 1: Barring a surprisingly positive end of this Raptor season, a
Speaker 1: coaching s change seems more likely than not.
Speaker 2: God damn sheesh. I love some Nick Nurse. I do.
Speaker 1: He's one of my all time favorite coaches and people
Speaker 1: in the league. Very insightful, as you can see even
Speaker 1: from his interview, very thoughtful. People have linked him to Houston.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what if you don't want to
Speaker 1: coach in Toronto because young guys are doing dumb shit
Speaker 1: and they're tuning you out, I promise you don't have
Speaker 1: the energy for Houston, my guy, No, you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have any We talk about bad roads, six lane highways,
Speaker 1: back to back traffic. You go from Toronto, Canada, one
Speaker 1: of the most progressive cities in the NBA, to a
Speaker 1: full blown red state with crazy traffic and young guys
Speaker 1: who just want to chuck all day like AAU players.
Speaker 1: Fuck No, absolutely, fucking not one thing is for sure.
Speaker 1: Sure if he wants to coach, he could coach. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be out out of a job for long.
Speaker 1: Probably would win another chip. Again, Just not in Toronto, baby,
Speaker 1: just not in Toronto. Oh, let's move on to Lebron James.
Speaker 1: There's a cute story. This is really sweet. I saw
Speaker 1: this and I said, we gotta talk about this on
Speaker 1: the show. Lebron James just opened a Starbucks. That's not
Speaker 1: really news in itself. I'm sure he has lots of businesses.
Speaker 1: I think he owns a Blaze Pizza in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: as well. He has a ton of fingers and a
Speaker 1: ton of businesses. Most of them are pretty damn successful.
Speaker 1: So why is this Starbucks story news? Because he opened
Speaker 1: it in Akron, Ohio, his hometown. And not only did
Speaker 1: he open the Starbucks in Akron, it's being opened in
Speaker 1: a part of town where Starbucks never ever ever opened
Speaker 1: the hood.
Speaker 2: You ever go to the hood and see a Starbucks?
Speaker 2: You ever go to the hood and see a Whole Foods?
Speaker 2: Fuck no, that's kind of like the correlating factor.
Speaker 1: No Starbucks around, Get out, move on, Like if you're
Speaker 1: a newcomer, your tourist, don't be in that neighborhood. This
Speaker 1: is not a suburb, it's not a gentrified part of downtown.
Speaker 1: It is across the street from two boarded up buildings.
Speaker 1: So why did Lebron James open it here? If you
Speaker 1: have to ask, you probably don't know Lebron James well enough.
Speaker 1: The simple answer is because Lebron James wants to transform
Speaker 1: his hometown. The truth is the simple answer is that
Speaker 1: he loves his hometown and he wants to build. The
Speaker 1: more complex answer is because Lebron James thinks that these people.
Speaker 2: Deserve a Starbucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make fun of the fact that it
Speaker 1: is like a very whitey like piece of luxury, like
Speaker 1: there's more important things probably to open up in the hood.
Speaker 2: I remember I did a piece.
Speaker 1: In Atlanta and they and I'm not banging on Lebron
Speaker 1: James for doing this. I think it's great and we'll
Speaker 1: get to it. But there's a side road I didn't anticipate.
Speaker 1: I remember I did a piece in Atlanta about gentrification
Speaker 1: near the Mercedes Benz Stadium, and they said, when when
Speaker 1: white people give their advice on how we fix our neighborhood,
Speaker 1: they always say a coffee shop, and really what we
Speaker 1: need is a laundromat and like a place where you
Speaker 1: can get money to be loan until your next paycheck.
Speaker 2: So I didn't think it's like a little funny anyway.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just honestly a side note, because there's
Speaker 1: more to it than the Starbucks. More importantly, it's two
Speaker 1: blocks down from where the I Promise school was that
Speaker 1: he opened, which if you don't know about that, we've
Speaker 1: done pieces on it. It's incredible job training, school training,
Speaker 1: job training for the parents of the kids who go
Speaker 1: to the school. But there are forty six workers that
Speaker 1: are not being paid just an hourly salary, but at
Speaker 1: this Starbucks also earning valuable job trainingificates for the hospitality industry.
Speaker 1: So it's basically like a vocational technical credit for working
Speaker 1: at Starbucks. Who doesn't want to be a barista, get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of the hood, just go to another
Speaker 1: Starbucks somewhere else. Anyway, typical Lebron James, not looking to
Speaker 1: just create jobs but also create careers. You can make
Speaker 1: fun of him first corny takes. You can make fun
Speaker 1: of him for lying incessively about things that are very
Speaker 1: easy to disprove. But I don't know if anyone in
Speaker 1: the league does more good with his money than Lebron.
Speaker 1: The building that houses the Starbucks is also going to
Speaker 1: become a complex by twenty twenty four, containing a sports bar,
Speaker 1: a wine room, even a Lebron James museum with a
Speaker 1: full sized recreation of his spring Hill apartment six oh
Speaker 1: two where he grew up in Akron with his mom.
Speaker 1: It's going to have an ice cream shop, a clothing store,
Speaker 1: and a concert venue. And of course, because Lebron James
Speaker 1: loves himself some taco Tuesdays, there's always also going to
Speaker 1: be a taco shop only open on Tuesdays. Just kidding.
Speaker 2: This is not groundbreaking news, especially.
Speaker 1: You know, for people who see these sort of developments
Speaker 1: go up, But it is pretty groundbreaking if you live
Speaker 1: in Akron. These sort of multi use places being built
Speaker 1: in a neighborhood that's not really being shepherded or invested
Speaker 1: in is going to create long lasting change. Lebron James
Speaker 1: did this in parts of downtown Cleveland when he was
Speaker 1: a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Multiple juice bars that
Speaker 1: he opened, more white and more white tea things, really
Speaker 1: fitness studios.
Speaker 2: But it worked. It worked.
Speaker 1: Lots of players talk about giving back, which to most
Speaker 1: players means just hosting a basketball camp, giving away some
Speaker 1: t shirts, giving away some shoes. But he is literally
Speaker 1: rebuilding his town brick by brick. I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised if Lebron James opened up for Lebron James apartments,
Speaker 1: Lebron James Apartment complex. Lebron James already has a school,
Speaker 1: he's got a Starbucks, he's got an ice cream store,
Speaker 1: he's got a taco shop. We're gonna keep an eye
Speaker 1: on this. One day down the road. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to come visit, all right, Let's move on to something
Speaker 1: that's not really news, but I want to talk about
Speaker 1: it anyway. Who, if you had to guess, is the
Speaker 1: least popular NBA coach of all time. If you give
Speaker 1: an answer to anyone other than George Carl.
Speaker 2: You are wrong.
Speaker 1: He has probably the most dislike coach in NBA history.
Speaker 1: That's not a hyperbole, that is fact. Do not take
Speaker 1: my word for it. Ask our guy JR. Smith.
Speaker 2: This is what he had to say about his time
Speaker 2: playing in Denver. He said, how do I put this?
Speaker 1: George Carl wasn't the coach I thought he was when
Speaker 1: I first got there.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's a player's coach. I didn't even know him.
Speaker 2: By the time I was gone.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I never see this dude again,
Speaker 1: I am good. There are certain people you vibe with
Speaker 1: and certain people you don't. I get that, But then
Speaker 1: there are certain people who just throw salt into the
Speaker 1: pot just because they want to, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just to see what the outcome is.
Speaker 2: I don't like stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I feel a lot of what DeMarcus and a lot
Speaker 1: of other players are saying.
Speaker 2: He's not the easiest person to deal with.
Speaker 1: There's many players other than Jerr Smith that have decided
Speaker 1: to come over the top rope on George Carl. DeMarcus Cousins,
Speaker 1: of course long running beef with George Carl. He tweeted
Speaker 1: out in response to Cousins taking shots at the King's
Speaker 1: organization by asking.
Speaker 2: What DeMarcus Cousins ever did for them?
Speaker 1: They paid you fifty million dollars and gave you the
Speaker 1: opportunity to play professional basketball, Sir, George Carl, do you
Speaker 1: know that that DeMarcus Cousins at one point was one
Speaker 1: of the most dominant big men in the game. Everyone
Speaker 1: wanted to Marcus Cousins. They didn't give him an opportunity
Speaker 1: to play fucking basketball. I hate to tell you, George Carl,
Speaker 1: a whole lot of other teams would have been happy
Speaker 1: to pay Boogie Cousins as well. Don't act like Sacramento
Speaker 1: did some sort of favor to DeMarcus Cousins. He had
Speaker 1: seven coaches in seven years there, and of course DeMarcus Cousins,
Speaker 1: who was great.
Speaker 2: I love him, Boogie.
Speaker 1: He tweeted a snake emoji as his description of George Carl.
Speaker 1: So he seems to be beefing with everyone in George
Speaker 1: carl He said, also Doc Rivers, we talked about this
Speaker 1: before two weeks ago, that Doc Rivers had been anointed
Speaker 1: as a black coach, and now there's going to be
Speaker 1: four or five more anointments of the young Afro American coach.
Speaker 1: Don't say Afro American, please, don't. That's cringe.
Speaker 2: Don't do that as if that's some sort of bad
Speaker 2: thing for coaches.
Speaker 1: I don't know, to represent the players, the labor base
Speaker 1: they have that's largely.
Speaker 2: Black and brown. I don't know.
Speaker 1: This seems like former players kind of make sense to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he also took a lot of unrestsari shots at Nuggets players.
Speaker 1: He uh whatever, for whatever reason, decided to say that
Speaker 1: Kenyon Martin had all that money and no father's fucked up.
Speaker 1: Carmarlow's dad died when he was two years old. Kenyon
Speaker 1: was raised by his mom and sister, and he says
Speaker 1: that those two are his father figured. So I don't
Speaker 1: know Kenyon Martin. You already know he's not about this.
Speaker 1: He said he was an awful and coward ass coach,
Speaker 1: a terrible person, selfish, unhappy, miserable, the worst coach that
Speaker 1: he ever played for.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 1: I met Kenyon Martin in Cincinnati a couple weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and let me say that is probably the censored version
Speaker 1: of what he would say behind George Carl's back, without
Speaker 1: the media there to take note into record. It the
Speaker 1: list of former players who have zero good things to
Speaker 1: say about George Carl. The list is long, Gary Payton,
Speaker 1: Sean Kemp, Chauncey Billups, numerous others, and George Carl still,
Speaker 1: for some reason, still tweeting about current players like John
Speaker 1: Morant nineteen fifties takes on drum morand if you know,
Speaker 1: you know, when you make a list of most or
Speaker 1: least popular NBA coaches, George Carl is literally the Kalisi
Speaker 1: of that list. No one is as unpopular as him,
Speaker 1: not a chance, and I don't think anybody will ever
Speaker 1: make that list. Also, fun fact, George Carl accidentally spit
Speaker 1: on me in a basketball clinic. I was sitting front
Speaker 1: row and he just loogied all over me and didn't
Speaker 1: say a goddamn word.
Speaker 2: So I personally don't like George Carl either,