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Speaker 3: Let's get right to it, because Carl has a lot

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Speaker 3: going on. Carl Demyo is the Republican Assemblyman. Most recently

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Speaker 3: he was able to force the Assembly and soon the

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Speaker 3: Senate and Governor Newsom to sign legislation that makes buying

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Speaker 3: a sixteen or seventeen year old for sex a felony. Really,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't up until this point, not an automatic one.

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Speaker 3: Now he's taking on Newsom and the illegal alien healthcare racket,

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Speaker 3: where we're spending now twelve billion dollars on cradle to

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Speaker 3: grave legal alien healthcare. No other state is spending any

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Speaker 3: money on that. The federal government won't spend any.

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Speaker 2: Money on it.

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Speaker 3: So what might be going on, Well, it might be

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Speaker 3: the California is taking federal money and spending it on

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Speaker 3: a legal alien health care. Anyway, let's get Carl DeMaio

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Speaker 2: Any thanks, for having me on what have you found out?

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Speaker 4: Because you will what was reported in the media last

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Speaker 4: week was a lie. Governor Gavin Knewso unveiled a budget

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Speaker 4: that finally admitted that what we told you back in

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Speaker 4: January that the state has a twelve billion dollar budget

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Speaker 4: deficit last January, just four months ago, he said it

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Speaker 4: was quote a modest surplus, and at my first budget

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Speaker 4: evidence that there was a budget deficit. So he comes

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Speaker 4: out and confirms what we said in January twelve billion

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Speaker 4: dollar deficit. And the reason why he didn't want you

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Speaker 4: to know there was a deficit in January was because

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Speaker 4: he wants to blame it all on Trump, because if

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Speaker 4: the deficit existed before Trump was sworn into office, then

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Speaker 4: he can't call it the Trump swamps. It's not because

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Speaker 4: of Trump. It's really because of the reckless management of

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Speaker 4: Democrats and the governor in the state of California. But

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Speaker 4: worse worse, that twelve billion dollar deficit is caused entirely

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Speaker 4: by the illegal immigrant health care costs, which is twelve

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Speaker 4: point one billion, So we're twelve billion dollars short. Twelve

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Speaker 4: point one billion of that is illegal immigrant free healthcare.

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Speaker 4: And he said during his press conference that he was

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Speaker 4: going to quote cut the illegal immigrant health care and

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Speaker 4: pause it. Well, hold on a second. A cut would

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Speaker 4: define it as reducing what we're spending. Instead, our budget

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Speaker 4: is going from nine point five billion this year for

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Speaker 4: illegal immigrant free healthcare to twelve point one billion next year.

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Speaker 4: That's not a cut, that's an increase. And this guy

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Speaker 4: says that he's going to pause any new enrollments in

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Speaker 4: going to be covering one hundred thousand more illegal immigrants

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Speaker 4: next year year in his plan for free health care.

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Speaker 4: So the media got it wrong. The media lied or

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Speaker 4: got bamboozled, and Newsom is fully going to fund and

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Speaker 4: continue this giveaway. And the big problem that we're seeing

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Speaker 4: is that we don't have the money to cover all

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Speaker 4: these illegal immigrants, and that means that citizens here in

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Speaker 4: California will have to go without. They've already cut hospice,

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Speaker 4: they've cut developmentally disabled home health care. You're going to

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Speaker 4: have a longer wait time for doctors and nurses. Doctors,

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Speaker 4: nurses and hospitals are not going to get reimbursed on

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Speaker 4: a timely basis, adding financial strain to the system. This

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Speaker 4: is going to jeopardize the health coverage for the mediast

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Speaker 4: of California citizens in order to give freebies to people

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Speaker 3: So legal residents, American citizens who are poor and need

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Speaker 3: for the illegal aliens. I mean, that is just just unconscionable.

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Speaker 4: Well, and they sat there at the hearing saying that

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Speaker 4: illegal immigrants shouldn't be penalized for Donald Trump's cuts. Remember,

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Speaker 4: the federal government doesn't reimburse for illegal immigrants to begin with.

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Speaker 2: There are no cuts because they don't give you any money.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing a cut exactly.

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Speaker 4: But what they're saying, what they're not saying out loud,

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Speaker 4: but what they're inferring is that they know that they

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Speaker 4: And then when Donald Trump comes back through the Department

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Speaker 4: your invoices. You spend money on people who are not

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Speaker 4: eligible under federal law for health coverage. We have to

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Speaker 4: claw back this money. They're turning around and blaming Trump

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Speaker 4: for follow the law. Do you understand how how dishonest

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Speaker 4: these people are? And this is nothing more than gaslighting

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Speaker 4: these people are. Now they passed a resolution on Monday

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Speaker 4: condemning Donald Trump for creating a crisis in medical and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, this is like the devil.

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Speaker 4: This is like the devil complaining that about sin. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's the Democrats of Newsom that have put medical on

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Speaker 4: the brink of financial collapse through their bad decisions, not

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. And yet they're getting away with it with

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Speaker 4: the media. The media is parroting these lives. And you

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Speaker 4: don't have to like Trump, but at least blame Trump

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Speaker 4: for whatever you want to blame him for correctly. But

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Speaker 4: when it comes to Medicaid, you need to blame the

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Speaker 4: Democrats and Gavin Newsom and nobody else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the burden of one party rule with veto

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Speaker 3: proof majorities super majorities is in the end, you're responsible.

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Speaker 3: You're to blame for everything. You can't pot it off

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Speaker 4: So do you do you have Do you have a

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Speaker 4: moment so I can stay with you. The other thing

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Speaker 4: we uncovered yesterday. So I've been dozing California step by

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Speaker 4: step and I'm pulling various contracts and grants. We found

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Speaker 4: one for two point four million dollars. It's a no

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Speaker 4: big contract to a group called two one one LA.

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Speaker 4: You may know of them. They're a nonprofit in LA,

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Speaker 4: but they're a left wing group and they they basically

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Speaker 4: say that hate crimes are everywhere, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: they have a specific point of view, and that's.

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Speaker 1: Fine for them.

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Speaker 4: They're they have a right to have their point of view.

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Speaker 4: But two point four million dollars in federal dollars have

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Speaker 4: gone to them in a no big contract to operate

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Speaker 4: with the state of California is calling a hate crime hotline,

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Speaker 4: and this no big contract.

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Speaker 1: I asked them.

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Speaker 4: I said, well, how many hate crimes have been prosecuted

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Speaker 4: answer zero. And then I said, well, well, how many

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Speaker 4: calls or emails or contacts have you received and they said,

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Speaker 4: well we got two thousand, one hundred and eight eighteen

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Speaker 4: last year. Well, that's a two point four million dollar contract.

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Speaker 4: That's one hundred and thirty three dollars and fourteen cents

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Speaker 4: six a day. But it gets worse. Of those, most

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Speaker 4: of them are pranks. Most of them were not about

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Speaker 4: hate crimes. Only oneenty twenty had anything related to discrimination. Well,

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Speaker 4: that means it's two thousand, three hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 4: to some sort of discrimination. Oh, but it gets worse.

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Speaker 4: Of those oney twenty hate related complaints, only about four

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Speaker 4: out of six of them, or six hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: for services. That's three thowenty nine dollars and forty one

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Speaker 4: They basically said, well, it sounds like you've been a

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Speaker 4: a brief counselor you should talk to. Again, this is

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Speaker 4: a this is a two point four million dollar piece

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Speaker 4: of griff to fund the left wing organization. And I

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Speaker 4: said at a time when we're cutting things in the budget.

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Speaker 4: Two point four million may not seem like a lot,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of this starts adding up. That's just

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Speaker 4: one of the many contracts that we're shining a light

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Speaker 4: on in California state government.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the second time I've heard about a hotline

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Speaker 3: that cost a lot of money. There was one in

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Speaker 3: sexual harassment and they were getting about eight calls a

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Speaker 3: I realized that that is another racket, is a hot

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Speaker 3: and it's just complete not I'd like to see the

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Speaker 4: I think it's worse.

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Speaker 1: I think it's worse.

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Speaker 4: I think that there is nothing more than the window

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Speaker 4: dressing for money laundry. I think what the politicians are

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Speaker 4: doing is they set up a contract that they know

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Speaker 4: is to do nothing. Contract and they say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 4: open up an email account and have a phone number,

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Speaker 4: and long how many emails or calls you get. But

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Speaker 4: really what we're doing is we're giving you two point

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Speaker 4: activate and organize for politics. And again, I have no

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Speaker 4: problem with the nonprofit doing whatever they want to do,

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Speaker 4: but not with government money. If they want to raise

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Speaker 4: but not with government money. I believe that this is

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you about one more thing here. You

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Speaker 2: What specifically is that.

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Speaker 4: About, Oh, he's decided he's going to shut another prison.

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Speaker 4: So what he's doing in this budget is he's not

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Speaker 4: funding the implementation of Prop thirty six. This is the

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Speaker 4: even Los Angeles County voted in favor of it, to

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Speaker 4: provide funding for the implementation of Prop. Thirty six, and

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Speaker 4: he chose not to. And part of the funding is

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Speaker 4: making sure there are enough prison beds for that. When

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Speaker 4: you put them behind bars, and so he cut funding.

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Speaker 4: He's shutting another prison. We know that one third of

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Speaker 4: that's in a state that doesn't do arrests and prosecutions.

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Speaker 4: So we know that the actual number of crimes that

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Speaker 4: you look, this guy is cutting public safety even though

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Speaker 4: voters clearly stated they want to make crime fighting a

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Speaker 4: priority again in our state. And I'm hoping that there's

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Speaker 4: bipartisan support to restore some of these dangerous cuts because

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Speaker 4: now it's the matter of public safety.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long this goes on. Carl Demyele,

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Speaker 2: thank you for coming on. Great work.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Take care, all right, Carl Demiele, Republican Assemblement. After two thirty,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have Daniel guss On. He's got a substack.

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Speaker 3: You ought to read it. He's got a second story

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Speaker 3: on the La Zoos situation. You know, the two elephants

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Speaker 3: were suddenly they're disappeared in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 3: maybe heading for Tulsa. Daniel will be coming on and

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Speaker 3: explaining what's happened to the two elephants. How do you

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after two thirty, Daniel Gus with a one

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Zoo had two elephants, Asian elephants, Billy

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Speaker 3: it's caused quite an uproar, but secondly, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: To my mind. Even more interesting is the.

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Speaker 2: There is an organization called Galaza.

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Speaker 3: Let me just call this hold on, let me get

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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. So Denise Verrett

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody who's clean? Anybody?

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Speaker 3: US Attorney's Office announced this week this is UH Bill A. Sale,

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Speaker 3: screw this sanctuary city nonsense. Legally, there's no such thing.

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Speaker 3: There isn't. You can't declare yourself a sanctuary from federal law.

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Speaker 3: It's total nonsense. It just depends how hard the federal

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Speaker 3: When somebody complains, it's like, you know, we've got a

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Speaker 3: there's a million and a half illegal aliens living in

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Speaker 3: Attorney's governing area, and this is the counties of Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside,

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Speaker 3: San Bernardino, San Luis, Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventre. Basically

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Speaker 3: So if there's a million and a half extra people

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Speaker 3: that's going to do to housing? How much space do

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Speaker 3: What do you think that does to the price of

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Speaker 2: That shouldn't be here. I don't really understand.

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Speaker 3: Why is it so Why the probably, why the rents

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Speaker 2: Well, why do you think.

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Speaker 3: That's stuff a million and a half people into your

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Speaker 3: come up with this idea, and uh sale said, well,

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Speaker 3: ignore federal arrest warrants. So that's what a sale is

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Speaker 3: going to unleash your federal arrest warrants. Warrants are you

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Speaker 3: can't argue with a detainer is one thing? A warrant

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Speaker 3: Daniel Guss. The LA Zoo is uh, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what what's going on? Why is everything falling apart? Why

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Speaker 3: saying the director of the LA Zoo, Denise Verrett, has

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.

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Speaker 3: Forty Moistline is eight seven seven Moist eighty six get

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Speaker 3: to the talkback feature in the iHeartRadio app. There's just

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Speaker 3: even the La Zoo is hit by corruption. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: Daniel guss On Daniel Gus dot substack dot com. That's

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Speaker 3: his news site and he's on with us frequently. There

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Speaker 3: are two zoo stories. One you may have heard about one.

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Speaker 3: Daniel is just broke a short time ago. Number one story.

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Speaker 3: Let's get Daniel on.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, John? Thanks for having me back. And yeah, no, nobody,

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Speaker 1: You can trust nothing.

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Speaker 2: What happened here, well, for.

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Speaker 1: A very long time. People who know that keeping elephants

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Speaker 1: now that the that Los Angeles is in such dire

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Speaker 3: They elephant napped Billy and Tina and what loaded them

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Speaker 1: They probably gave them a very stiff drink and sent

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Speaker 1: it's so much worse John, because Karen Bass lied in

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Speaker 1: guess what, Karen Bass, Billy and Tina have never been together.

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Speaker 2: All I say, Billy would be jumping out on Tina.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps, or she's good looking. Of course she's good life.

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Speaker 1: You have to ask the other elephants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, all right, now let me read you from me.

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Speaker 3: So they repeated that is any of that true? It's

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Speaker 2: Is that enough? Is that a lot?

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about storing elephants. I don't have

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Speaker 1: This is the easy one for me, John. The La

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Speaker 1: Times got it wrong. What a fucking surprise. The La

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Speaker 1: Times got it wrong. It's like seventeen acres. And if

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Speaker 2: So it's not one hundred seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So lie after lie from Bath and the La Times.

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Speaker 3: Good luck finding a correction on the La Times website.

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Speaker 3: So that's a load of crap.

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Speaker 2: But I guess it's what's done is done now.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 3: It looks like these elephants have been sentenced to life

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, nothing is ever completely done. It's certainly

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Speaker 3: Hold on, I got to interrupt you a second. Hold on,

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Speaker 3: because I found out. Wow, you are absolutely right. I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let let's look at the numbers a different way.

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Speaker 1: They missed by nine hundred percent. Maybe I mean they missed.

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Speaker 1: Now who at the La Times was so eager to

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Speaker 3: eleph expert. One hundred thirty acres seems like a lot

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Speaker 3: for two elephants. So whatever, The problem is it's not

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Speaker 3: that they don't have space now like you said, while

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Speaker 3: they exaggerated it by nine hundred percent, it's really seventeen acres, right,

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Speaker 3: and the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that they were never together to begin with. So

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Speaker 1: what in the hell is going on with Karen Bass?

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Speaker 1: And as you know, I thank God for ray Man

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Speaker 1: because I flung this second story today at you and

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Speaker 1: him at the last minute. There is a wonderful advocate

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Speaker 1: for humane issues, not the far flung you know, Delta

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Speaker 1: smelt kind of stuff, but a woman by the name

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Speaker 1: of Judy Mancusto who has an organization called Social Compassion

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Speaker 1: in Legislation where they really get to the roots of

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Speaker 1: logical humane laws.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that. Let's do that in the next segment.

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Speaker 3: Can you hang on sure, because Michael Kurser do the

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Speaker 3: news and then we'll talk about Judy Mankusha. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: Social Compassion and Legislation. She is accusing the director of

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Speaker 3: the La Zoo, Denise Barrett, of diverting hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 3: of dollars, maybe millions of dollars to all kinds of

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Speaker 3: strange things, including her own travel, her office upgrades, a

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Speaker 3: private party in her honor a lot of travel.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to this.

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Speaker 1: Ye, it's worse than that, John, But let me be clear,

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Speaker 1: it's not Judy Mancuso who's making the allegation. She sent

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Speaker 1: out a press release and she shared the allegations from

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Speaker 1: the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: after the break.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: At three o'clock, we are going to have Dan Dow on.

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Speaker 3: We had him on a few weeks ago because the

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Speaker 3: Parole Board is going to let could be letting Ali

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Speaker 3: Brown out, who's serving a life sentence for murder. Allie

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Speaker 3: Brown used to be Herbert Brown. You see what's going

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Speaker 3: on here. The person he murdered was this twenty two

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Speaker 3: month old baby, Lily. Newsom has two days to reverse

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Speaker 3: the parole Board's decision.

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Speaker 2: Two days.

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Speaker 3: Dan dall the prosecutor District Attorney, is going to be

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Speaker 3: coming on about that case. All right, let's go back

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Speaker 3: to Daniel Gus the la zoos and all kinds of turmoil.

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Speaker 3: The two elephants, Billy and Tina were kidnapped and taking

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Speaker 3: to Tulsa and it's a small zoo a long way

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Speaker 3: from here, and apparently there's just a lot of lies

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Speaker 3: in drama swirling around Billy and Tina.

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Speaker 2: But I want to get to this.

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Speaker 3: This is a news story that you posted a short

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Speaker 3: time ago, and you say that Judy Mancuso, who runs

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Speaker 3: Social Compassion and Legislation, and the Greater Los Angeles Zoo

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Speaker 3: Association are using the director of the La Zoo, Denise Barett,

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Speaker 3: of looks like misappropriating a lot of money. Can you

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Speaker 3: get into the details of these charges that's laid out

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Speaker 3: by the by GLAZA, Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Now, Judy mccuzo, I've known her for many, many

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Speaker 1: years and her word is gold on this stuff. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't put out garbage. She sent out a press release

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Speaker 1: today identifying a sworn testimony by GLAZA, which is called

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Speaker 1: the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. Betty White was affiliated

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Speaker 1: with them for many years. But basically they solicited donations

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Speaker 1: for the betterment of the existence of the animals at

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Speaker 1: the zoo. I'm not a fan of the zoo, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of this money, the Low Hanging Fruit John

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Speaker 1: is tens of thousands of dollars spent on a party

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Speaker 1: for Denise Farett, Aaron Bass's zoo director. The low hanging

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Speaker 1: is office furniture for Denise Verrett. The bigger problems that

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Speaker 1: I think Bill a Sale, if this can get on

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Speaker 1: his radar, may want to look forward to look towards,

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Speaker 1: is hundreds of thousands of dollars of donated funds spent

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Speaker 1: on travel for Verrett's staff. Okay, if you want to

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Speaker 1: say they had to look at this zoo or that zoo,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. But Verrett, allegedly, according to GLAZA, diverted

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Speaker 1: one point seven million dollars to outside organizations non affiliated

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Speaker 1: with the betterment and the welfare of the animals at

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Speaker 1: the zoo, including organizations where Denise Verrett sat on their

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Speaker 1: board of directors, including four hundred and forty nine thousand,

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to AZY eight called the American Zoo Association.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the nexus, John, just for your audience. The AZA,

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Speaker 1: not GLAZA, but the American Zoo Association, which received almost

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in donated funds, said oh,

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Speaker 1: the best place for Billy and Tina to go to

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Speaker 1: is the Tulsa Zoo. So AZA got four hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars to choose and tell the Mayor's office

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Speaker 1: Tulls is the best place to go. But the person

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Speaker 1: who gave them that money, Denise Verrett, allegedly is on

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Speaker 1: their board. That's a conflict of interest. It might be criminal,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And it's worse than that. John. When

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Speaker 1: Denise Verrett went to city council recently to talk about

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Speaker 1: how much money the zoo needs to stay afloat, she

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Speaker 1: never told city council about its access to these donated funds. So,

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Speaker 1: according to GLAZA, as opposed to the American Zoo Association,

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Speaker 1: Denise Verret withheld an enormous sum of money available to

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Speaker 1: the zoo and didn't disclose it to city council in

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Speaker 1: their very intensive budget talks going now, So this is

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Speaker 1: taking out one card from this house of cards and

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Speaker 1: it's collapsing before our very eyes.

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Speaker 3: You talked about the travel uh Glaza. GLAZA is claiming

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Speaker 3: that Denise Verrett diverted over three hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars so she and her staff could travel around

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Speaker 3: the world. This money was supposed to go for the

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Speaker 3: animals instead, Verret and her staff traveled to Buenos Aires,

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Speaker 3: the Canary Islands, Sydney, Australia, Botswana. I mean it's it's

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Speaker 3: an incredible racket, is what it is. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: mean people who donate money to a zoo expected to

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Speaker 3: go almost entirely for the animals, and it seemed to

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Speaker 3: it entirely for Denise Veratt and her her travel dreams.

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Speaker 1: Right. And by the way, this is nothing new. For years,

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Speaker 1: I've said that the city's Karen Bess is deadly animal

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Speaker 1: pounds LA Animal Services. They took more than a million

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Speaker 1: dollars for a website rebuild and where is the investigation

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Speaker 1: into that. So this is a practice that's gone on

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Speaker 1: in the city and Karen Bass is deadly dog and

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Speaker 1: cat pounds. That's now been happening all along, all along,

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Speaker 1: off the radar at the LA Zoo, and so they

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Speaker 1: had been lying about it. They treated like an ATM.

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Speaker 1: And from what I'm hearing now from my sources, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who've fledged money to the zoo are

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Speaker 1: not only clawing it back, they're taking the La Zoo

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Speaker 1: out of their wills as they should.

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Speaker 2: You know what, people don't want to be suckers.

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Speaker 3: You've been giving money to the La Zoo, or at

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Speaker 3: least you know, to these organizations. You're a sucker, sure,

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Speaker 3: I mean at twenty two thousand dollars and he's Verrett

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Speaker 3: spent in a private party to celebrate herself becoming zoo director,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven thousand for office upgrades, thirteen thousand for her

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Speaker 3: own office, fourteen thousand for her assistant's office, and then

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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five thousand for world travel and

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Speaker 3: then the million seven you mentioned to outside organizations where

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Speaker 3: she sits on the board of directors.

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Speaker 2: This is like a massive money laundering scam, right and in.

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Speaker 1: An instance of of no honor among these, she allegedly

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Speaker 1: lies the city council about their budgetary needs. And so

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Speaker 1: where is the accountability? And you know what, you know what?

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Speaker 1: Just you know it's the cherry on top John. When

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Speaker 1: TMZ called Karen Bass's office to speak to the nitwitth

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Speaker 1: deputy mayor by the name of Jackie Hamilton. By the way,

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Speaker 1: her real name is Jacqueline, but she hates being called Jackie,

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Speaker 1: so that's why I call her Jackie. She hates being

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Speaker 1: called Hi, Jackie Hamilton. And you I want to respond

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Speaker 1: to my questions, you're Jackie Hamilton. Jackie Hamilton allegedly hung

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Speaker 1: up on t m Z when they called to find

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Speaker 1: out is this true? Did you did you sneak the

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Speaker 1: animals away in the middle of the night, so she

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Speaker 1: hung up on them. So this is a gigantic middle

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Speaker 1: finger from Karen Bass to all of La and anybody

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Speaker 1: who ever gave a damn about animals, dogs, cats, or elephants.

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Speaker 3: What is the proper way to transfer the animals to Tulsa?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's the protocol for doing this?

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Speaker 1: It's not an issue of the proper what what I mean,

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Speaker 1: the transportation would have to be done, whether they're going there.

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Speaker 3: Saying I'm saying there's a there's a there's an uproar

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Speaker 3: that they've been transferred to Tulsa.

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Speaker 2: Like, who gets to make that call? Is it just

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Speaker 2: Karen Bass?

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Speaker 3: Ultimately she decides, yeah, Tulsa because her friend got contacts there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well apparently so because well not Karen Bass.

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Speaker 1: When when Verrett was speaking to city Council, the Mayor's office,

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Speaker 1: and everybody on city Council other than Bob Bloomenfield, who

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Speaker 1: has condemned, he put out a press release a short

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Speaker 1: while ago condemning this move. Apparently it was the sole

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Speaker 1: discretion of Denise Verrett. But basically that's with Jackie Hamilton

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Speaker 1: and Karen Vass's letting her do it. The point is,

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Speaker 1: why why would you send two elephants who clearly need

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Speaker 1: to go to sanctuary. Why in the world would you

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Speaker 1: do this. Why in the world would everybody other than

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Speaker 1: Bob Bloomenfield on City Council not say, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we should tap the brakes and we should find out

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Speaker 1: what this is going on. So absolutely everybody on City

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Speaker 1: Council other than Bob Bloomenfield is responsible for this and that,

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Speaker 1: and nothing is done there without Marquis Harris Dawson. So

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Speaker 1: they are all in on it other than Bloomenfield. And

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Speaker 1: I think this needs a much deeper dig because just

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Speaker 1: like everything else, John, the whole damn thing is corrupt.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Gus, thank you for coming on, and you go

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Speaker 3: to Daniel Gusk dot substack dot com and read all

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Speaker 3: about it. All right, we'll talk soon. Thanks, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. All Right, right after three o'clock we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have Dan Dow, the district attorney. He has been on

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Speaker 3: before about the case of a murderer who originally was

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Speaker 3: named Herbert Brown and then became Ali Brown, became a woman,

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Speaker 3: and he's serving a life sentence. He murdered his twenty

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Speaker 3: two month old baby, Lily, and the pro board said

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Speaker 3: he can get out. This is the San Louis Obispo

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Speaker 3: District Attorney Governor k news him as two days to stop.

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Speaker 3: The parole hasn't said anything about it yet. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: with Dan du the DA come up coming up next,

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Speaker 3: and we've got Michael Krozer live in the KFI twenty

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Speaker 3: four hour News. Hey, you've been listening to the John

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Speaker 3: Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live

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