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Speaker 1: Happy Friday? Happy pre fourth of July. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to bring you your daily
Speaker 1: dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, we
Speaker 1: are previewing Miami's Week six opponent, a game on the
Speaker 1: road in the Rocky Mountains with the Denver Broncos. And
Speaker 1: to help us do that is Eric Dlala of Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos dot Com. What are the expectations out in Denver
Speaker 1: for Drew Lock all those offensive additions? How do Von
Speaker 1: Miller and Bradley Chubb compliment one another? Who's the biggest
Speaker 1: unsung star on the team? All of that and more
Speaker 1: on this Friday, July the third edition of the Drive
Speaker 1: Time Podcasts. And I'm pretty excited for this edition of
Speaker 1: the No the Enemy series. We've taken a look now
Speaker 1: at the Patriots, Bills, Jaguars. We're gonna get to all
Speaker 1: thirteen opponents on the Miami Dolphins schedule. We also have
Speaker 1: written content taking a look at some of the analytics
Speaker 1: and inside football stats up on Miami Dolphins dot com
Speaker 1: for each of these opponents. We have October's opponents up
Speaker 1: now live on the website. We had September I think
Speaker 1: it was last week, so go check that out Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins dot Com. But I'm pumped to talk about this
Speaker 1: Broncos team because I find them one of the more
Speaker 1: fascinating outfits in the entire NFL with the off season
Speaker 1: they had surrounding Drew Lock with all those weapons. I
Speaker 1: was a huge Jerry Judy fan of Alabama kJ Hamler
Speaker 1: at Penn State. He was one of the guys at
Speaker 1: the scouting combine that every big ten defender you talk
Speaker 1: to said he was the toughest guy they faced on
Speaker 1: saturdays in college. Noah Fan was a big fan of
Speaker 1: his game out of Iowa two years ago. And then
Speaker 1: maybe even the best out of that entire bunch of
Speaker 1: NFL talent is the NFL proven Courtland Sutton, who had
Speaker 1: a very similar year last year to the Vante Parker
Speaker 1: with the numbers. But I won't waste any more time
Speaker 1: here talking about this team without our guest. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring in the Broncos expert from Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: dot Com Eric D. Lala and writing Shotgun now Here
Speaker 1: on the Drive Time podcast is our Week six Dolphins
Speaker 1: at Broncos the October eighteenth game. Are correspondent for that game,
Speaker 1: Eric D. Lalla, He covers the Broncos for Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: dot Com. Eric, Welcome in man Hey, Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for having me. We're excited about having you on the
Speaker 1: podcast here. And I've always wanted to go to Denver myself,
Speaker 1: actually being a West Coast native, it never happened for me,
Speaker 1: but now I get my chance here in October. Is
Speaker 1: that the best time of year to go out to Denver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that time of year, that September October weather
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit crisp the u The
Speaker 1: leaves are changing up on the up in the mountains,
Speaker 1: so people who head up there for a day trip
Speaker 1: you can see some pretty spectacular fall colors. Uh. Still,
Speaker 1: it'll be nice during the day at empower Field a
Speaker 1: mile high, and it could get a little crisp by
Speaker 1: the time we're leaving the press box that night. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just a great time of year. To be here.
Speaker 1: It's one of those areas where you can have snow
Speaker 1: one day and then like seventy degrees the next day.
Speaker 1: So it's always a coin toss as far as what
Speaker 1: you'll get. But you know, I've also looked at some
Speaker 1: of the Broncos um just trends, and it seems like
Speaker 1: they tend to win a lot of those early season
Speaker 1: home games. So I'm happy that it's it's October, but
Speaker 1: I guess it could be better for weather in September.
Speaker 1: But again, the on field product for the visiting team
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better chance in October. Eric, we
Speaker 1: are in a crazy time right now. How has it
Speaker 1: been for you covering the league, covering this team during
Speaker 1: all of the coronavirus and and everything going on right now?
Speaker 1: How you've been doing with work and everything. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been interesting. You know. I think when we left in
Speaker 1: mid March, Um and Joe Ellis, the Broncos president CEO,
Speaker 1: said everybody needs to work from home. I think we all,
Speaker 1: like everybody thought this is gonna be a couple week thing.
Speaker 1: But uh, now going on month for or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You know, we've covered free agency from home, the draft
Speaker 1: from home, he's the zoom press conferences kind of seemed
Speaker 1: like second nature by now, But I think, like everybody,
Speaker 1: we're eager to see what training camp is gonna look like,
Speaker 1: what the start of the season is going to look like,
Speaker 1: and not just from a football standpoint, but how are
Speaker 1: we going to be able to get content to the fans,
Speaker 1: because it's it's going to be a unique season, and
Speaker 1: so hopefully there's some cool opportunities to show the differences
Speaker 1: and give fans a good look at that. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned training camp. We're just less than one month away
Speaker 1: from the start of training camp. Some alterations of the
Speaker 1: preseason schedule, and the Hall of Fame Game, of course,
Speaker 1: has been canceled. And last year the Broncos were in
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame game, and I remember that Drew
Speaker 1: Lock played early in that game and got a lot
Speaker 1: of reps in that game, and Vic Fangio came out
Speaker 1: afterwards and just basically said he's not ready to play
Speaker 1: yet his first game as an NFL player, But then
Speaker 1: he made a big jump when he got into the
Speaker 1: lineup in December. And I want to know from someone
Speaker 1: that was their first hand throughout the year, that saw
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback growth from that first preseason game all
Speaker 1: the way till the end of the season when the
Speaker 1: Broncos offense improved by five and a half points per
Speaker 1: game when he entered the lineup. What was it about
Speaker 1: that experience for him to help him grow into that
Speaker 1: role And what do you think about Drew Locks prospects
Speaker 1: now heading into your number two Yes, So for those
Speaker 1: who don't know, I mean, he was drafted in the
Speaker 1: second round, came out here, and I think was overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by the playbook to start off, just because it's such
Speaker 1: a different experience than what he had at Missouri and
Speaker 1: where they're holding up signs, it's a you know, it's
Speaker 1: a hurry up offense there. They're using numbers and letters
Speaker 1: instead of these long, complicated play calls and a lot
Speaker 1: of NFL offenses used. Um. I think what impressed me
Speaker 1: first was his work ethic, because day one he said,
Speaker 1: this is a lot of you know, I'm barely breaking
Speaker 1: the huddle. Went home that night and it's been I
Speaker 1: think three or four hours just practicing in the mirror
Speaker 1: these play calls. Then recorded himself practicing the play calls,
Speaker 1: would listen to those on the bus on the way
Speaker 1: to the facility. So I think that's where people noticed first,
Speaker 1: was that the work ethic was there, and that was
Speaker 1: a big thing because you know, a few years ago
Speaker 1: the Broncos took Paxton Lynch in the first round and
Speaker 1: he for whatever reason and it was never able to
Speaker 1: take advantage. And there is this perception in Denver that
Speaker 1: part of that was motivation, part of that was work ethic,
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's any concern there Withdrew And
Speaker 1: so for me, that checked a big box on day
Speaker 1: one that he was in Denver. Um. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit rocky early on. It didn't
Speaker 1: play well in the Hall of Fame game. Granted, you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting that many nows because he was competing
Speaker 1: for the backup role at that point with Kevin Hogan.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacca was the clear starter at that point. He
Speaker 1: was a little bit better. The following week against Seattle.
Speaker 1: I thought he was really strong. Let a eight to
Speaker 1: ten place scoring drive in his third preseason game, and
Speaker 1: then he gets hurt. He gets sacked, hurts his thumb
Speaker 1: on his throwing hand is out essentially for the next
Speaker 1: ten weeks, and like you mentioned Vic Fangio said, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know you're you're a picture right now. You're not
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You're throwing the ball hard, You're not a
Speaker 1: Union card carrying quarterback. I mean, Vis got all these sayings,
Speaker 1: but he also said that time off really helped Drew
Speaker 1: because he could take a step back, he could do
Speaker 1: all this virtual reality stuff that the Broncos have and
Speaker 1: many other NFL teams utilize, but he could get a
Speaker 1: good feel for the playbook. And so I think there
Speaker 1: was concern that, you know, he was going to come
Speaker 1: back from this long layoff Week thirteen against the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who had a top ten defense last season, and then
Speaker 1: it was going to be ugly, and he threw two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half. I mean, he really used
Speaker 1: that time to his advantage mentally. And so moving forward
Speaker 1: to this year, after he threw seven touchdowns three picks
Speaker 1: last year, completed nearly six of his passes, I think
Speaker 1: there's reason to believe that even without an in person
Speaker 1: offseason program, as he's trying to learn offensive coordinator Pat
Speaker 1: Shermer's system, that some of those habits, uh that work ethic,
Speaker 1: that that's going to go a long way into making
Speaker 1: sure he can take a step forward. And I think, Travis,
Speaker 1: my sense is that there's Drew is not going to
Speaker 1: be worse than he was last year. And so I
Speaker 1: think what you saw last year is a pretty good baseline,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, if you average out his numbers,
Speaker 1: it's like thirty yards twenty two touchdowns, it's like twelve
Speaker 1: picks or something like that. I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be any worse than that. And I know we'll
Speaker 1: get to this, but because of all the weapons on offense,
Speaker 1: even if Drew is just average, I think those numbers
Speaker 1: are gonna be inflated anyway, just because of the talent.
Speaker 1: But you know, if he takes a step forward, I'm
Speaker 1: not suggesting he's gonna be the next Mahomes or Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson or Carson Wentz, but you look at these year
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. I do think Drew can put himself in
Speaker 1: the conversation if he you know, maybe he throws for
Speaker 1: four thousand yards and twenty seven touchdowns and at least
Speaker 1: that proves then that he's the long term guy here
Speaker 1: in denver Um and then you can keep moving forward,
Speaker 1: because that's been the issue with roster building since is
Speaker 1: that every year when you're trying to find a quarter back,
Speaker 1: you can't build around them and you end up using
Speaker 1: a first round pick on a quarterback when you could
Speaker 1: use that on an impactful defensive player, skill position or
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And so if Drew is a guy, and
Speaker 1: I think you'll show that this year that he is,
Speaker 1: things look brighter for not just this year, but the
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. It really benefits the team when you can
Speaker 1: find that quarterback outside of the general you know, top five,
Speaker 1: top ten type of picks stuff. You get a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the second round, like you mentioned, you get the salary,
Speaker 1: you know, relief. That way, you also get to add
Speaker 1: other premium spots or premium resources to the rest of
Speaker 1: the roster. I like the idea you talk about there
Speaker 1: with kind of pro rating the rookie season numbers, because
Speaker 1: you talk about twenty two touchdowns twelve picks. That's that's
Speaker 1: what you want your rookie quarterback to be able to do,
Speaker 1: to show that you can take care of the football
Speaker 1: and produce that way in big time numbers and elevate
Speaker 1: the offense the way Drew Lock did last year. I
Speaker 1: have a couple of comments for you here, Eric, because
Speaker 1: I love some of the notes you mentioned about him
Speaker 1: being a picture not a quarterback just yet. My goodness,
Speaker 1: that guy can drill the football and really rip those
Speaker 1: tight seams and and make some big time throws that way.
Speaker 1: He's always been that way since he was back at Missouri.
Speaker 1: You also mentioned the weapons that he has around him,
Speaker 1: and we'd be remissed if we didn't dive into that
Speaker 1: next here, because you got Courtland Sutton, who went crazy
Speaker 1: last year and had a big breakout season. Noah Fan,
Speaker 1: for my money, is one of the top athletic tight
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL once he gets a little more acclimated,
Speaker 1: a little more seasoning. And then you go out and
Speaker 1: add my personal favorite receiver in this year's draft class,
Speaker 1: and Jerry Judy you get kJ Hamler. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it seems to me like they really, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: because of the identification of having this quarterback, they believe
Speaker 1: in that they can go ahead and make these aggressive
Speaker 1: moves to surround him with that talent. And I'm curious
Speaker 1: to ask you how this kind of place between John
Speaker 1: Elway and Vic Fangio, because typically you might see a
Speaker 1: defensive coach say we want to go more on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, but they went all in
Speaker 1: on the offense with Judy and Hamler and getting Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: What is it about this receiving corps that really helps
Speaker 1: benefit Drew Lock and can take his game to the
Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, A big part of it is a
Speaker 1: receivers all do something a little bit different. You've got
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, who's that jump ball type of guy, big
Speaker 1: possession receiver UM, A guy I think Drew luck will
Speaker 1: still look to on third down. You know, had an
Speaker 1: insane target share UM last season when Drew got in
Speaker 1: there for his final five starts. How do you know
Speaker 1: he's he didn't have all that many games where he
Speaker 1: had more than four or five catches, but he's he's
Speaker 1: a four catch, eight yard type of guy. I'll be
Speaker 1: interested to see if that if he can kind of
Speaker 1: increase that catch number a little bit this season. But
Speaker 1: you've got him there. You've got Jerry Judy, who we've
Speaker 1: heard again and again about his route running, about his
Speaker 1: ability to look the ball in. You know, he's not
Speaker 1: going to drop passes. He can catch a short ball
Speaker 1: and take at the distance um. Nick Saban told us
Speaker 1: that he thinks he's going to be best in the slot,
Speaker 1: but can also play outside as well. Then you've got
Speaker 1: k J. Hamler from Penn State, and he's a guy
Speaker 1: that the strategy of the draft was interesting because when
Speaker 1: le Broncos took Jerry Judy at fifteen, nobody in the
Speaker 1: league thought they were going to double up and go
Speaker 1: receiver again in the second round. Maybe in the third round,
Speaker 1: maybe in the fourth round, but not in the second.
Speaker 1: And so when they took k J. Hamler and they
Speaker 1: got a guy that could take the top off of
Speaker 1: the defense. He's going to challenge those safeties. And so
Speaker 1: those three receivers each do something different. And then Noah
Speaker 1: fans because of his size and speed that combination right there.
Speaker 1: He can catch a short crossing round and take at
Speaker 1: the distance. Um He's had had a few hundred yard
Speaker 1: games last year. Let all rookie tight ends, said a
Speaker 1: bunch of Broncos franchise rookie tight end records. So he's
Speaker 1: a guy really excited to see. But I think when
Speaker 1: you take all of those guys, and then you add
Speaker 1: the receiving ability of Philip Lindsay and Melvin Gordon, there's
Speaker 1: almost too many options for teams to stop if all
Speaker 1: goes well, and we have to see if that translates
Speaker 1: to the field. But I think the biggest thing for
Speaker 1: the Broncos is the last few years they haven't had
Speaker 1: a lot of depth. You know, Emmanuel Sanders and da
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas when they were both out in teen, you
Speaker 1: had a young Courtland Sudden, a young days Shawn Hamilton's
Speaker 1: and a young Tim Patrick and those were your options.
Speaker 1: And obviously Cortland's developed into this Pro Bowl player. But
Speaker 1: I think the fact now that Courtland can miss a
Speaker 1: game and you still got Judy and Hambler and Fant,
Speaker 1: you know, that makes things easier for lock uh and
Speaker 1: hopefully is the difference between a six and ten, seven
Speaker 1: and nine type keys in and maybe nine and seven,
Speaker 1: ten and six. It's kind of like looking on the
Speaker 1: mirror on the other side of the football and if
Speaker 1: you just remove the fandom from this, your Broncos or
Speaker 1: Dolphins fandom, whichever side you may be on for this
Speaker 1: drive time podcast here with Eric da Laala of Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos dot Com, is that the Dolphins really went hard
Speaker 1: on the secondary and really made that an area of depth.
Speaker 1: So just from a pure football standpoint, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to watch the way this Dolphins defensive backfield matches up
Speaker 1: with all the options the Broncos have their at Drew
Speaker 1: Locks disposal. Now, you mentioned the addition in the in
Speaker 1: the backfield of Melvin Gordon from the Chargers. He makes
Speaker 1: the jump in division there and joins Philip Lindsay, who
Speaker 1: I think is one of the more underrated backs in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So continuing that theme of adding depth and
Speaker 1: making yourself, like you said, flexible with game plans, but
Speaker 1: also the ability to replace a starter if he goes
Speaker 1: down for a game or two. What's the workshare load
Speaker 1: load gonna look like they're in that backfield between Gordon
Speaker 1: and Lindsay, who's the starter, Who's gonna get more carries? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know I would. I would view it more as
Speaker 1: a touch situation instead of carries, um, just because I
Speaker 1: could see a situation where they both get the same
Speaker 1: amount of carries. But maybe Melvine Gordon's on the field
Speaker 1: a little bit more, uh you know in third down,
Speaker 1: so maybe he gets some of these swing passes out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, some of these checkdowns. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I would look at the playing time, maybe in the
Speaker 1: sixty to seventy percent range for Gordon and Philip Lindsay
Speaker 1: getting the rest of that. But Philip Lindsay has been
Speaker 1: doubted for a really long time. You know, he wasn't drafted,
Speaker 1: it wasn't highly recruited going to Colorado. UM, people didn't
Speaker 1: know that he was going to make this roster. Ended
Speaker 1: up making a Pro Bowl. He's the only undrafted player
Speaker 1: in NFL history to rush for a thousand yards in
Speaker 1: each of their first two seasons. And he said repeatedly,
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't talked to the media a whole
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, but on Twitter, you know he wants
Speaker 1: this job, and I think it's clear that he, you know,
Speaker 1: he appreciates what Melvin Gordon could bring, and that's, you know,
Speaker 1: someone by the goal line that's going to find a
Speaker 1: way in the end zone. Gordon has eight touchdowns in
Speaker 1: each of his last four seasons. Only got in the
Speaker 1: league with that amount of rushing touchdowns. But I think
Speaker 1: Lindsay is gonna make his case here in training camp,
Speaker 1: and so that's kind of one of the battles I'm
Speaker 1: more interested to see is everyone expects Melvin Gordon to
Speaker 1: be the starter, but Philip Lindsay has proved time and
Speaker 1: time again that he wants that role, and so you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a done deal yet, but I do
Speaker 1: think fighting guest today that Melvin Gordon will probably get
Speaker 1: the share in the targets, sharing the carries um and
Speaker 1: it's interesting people view Philip Lindsay is kind of a
Speaker 1: speedy guy, but he's a between the tackles runner. He
Speaker 1: just uses that speed to get through these gaps, whereas
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is more likely to blow through the gap
Speaker 1: and you know, break a couple of tackles. I think
Speaker 1: if you keep Lindsay in that eat to tend carry range,
Speaker 1: some of that explosiveness that he showed in year one
Speaker 1: will probably come back a little bit. Because he had
Speaker 1: fewer big runs last season. It seemed like towards the
Speaker 1: end of the year maybe some of the workload kind
Speaker 1: of war on him a little bit. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how they balance those guys. But I'd
Speaker 1: expect Melvin Gordon and Lindsey to both play a really
Speaker 1: big role. I'm glad you mentioned the misperception of Philip
Speaker 1: Lindsay's playing style because he's one of the more unique
Speaker 1: backs that I've seen recently, and that's probably a big
Speaker 1: reason why he did go undrafted, because he was a
Speaker 1: production machine there in college at Colorado. Because he's so
Speaker 1: high cut, his legs are cut, so high high waisted guy.
Speaker 1: I just I love watching the way he plays, the
Speaker 1: mentality he plays with. I'm curious, though, Eric, did he
Speaker 1: ever move out of his parents house? He did? He did?
Speaker 1: I think he plays in his own uh and as
Speaker 1: doing well so, but you know it's a contract here
Speaker 1: for Philip Lindsay too, so he's got sent to approved.
Speaker 1: You know, Melvin Gordon has this two year deal. But
Speaker 1: you know, teams can get out of these things. So
Speaker 1: both of these guys want to prove that they're worth
Speaker 1: big money. And that would be a fan competition to
Speaker 1: watch it certainly will be. I love that. I think
Speaker 1: it was an East sixty story they did on Philip
Speaker 1: Lindsay staying at home, helping his parents out around the house.
Speaker 1: Colorado guy through and through. Now Now, as far as
Speaker 1: offensive production, it seems like in today's NFL there's an
Speaker 1: embarrassment of riches at running back, at receiver, even at
Speaker 1: quarterback these days, with Cam Newton getting his contract recently,
Speaker 1: but you're only as good as your offensive line up front.
Speaker 1: And that's where I want to go now and talk
Speaker 1: about this Broncos offensive line. You've got former Dolphin Juwan James,
Speaker 1: who missed a decent portion of last season. I'm curious
Speaker 1: to know about how he affects where Dalton Risner plays.
Speaker 1: Is Rachner going to be a guard full time? Where
Speaker 1: does Lloyd Cushionberry figure in? Is Garrett Bowles still in
Speaker 1: the fold? Breakdown this offensive line force if you can. Eric,
Speaker 1: you know, let's start in the middle with that interior
Speaker 1: offensive line, because I think this group has a chance
Speaker 1: to be really good and you know, also has a
Speaker 1: chance to spend a few ars together, which is rare
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You've got Dalton Risener at left guard,
Speaker 1: who played every single started every single game there last
Speaker 1: year as a rookie. Uh you know it was a
Speaker 1: p w F A all excuse me, p f w
Speaker 1: A all rookie team member there at left guard. Just
Speaker 1: a really impressive player, strong guy, you know, didn't get
Speaker 1: dominated in any matchup really, even though he saw some
Speaker 1: tough guys like Chris Jones from the Chiefs. At center.
Speaker 1: You've got Lloyd Cushionberry, the rookie from l s U
Speaker 1: who kind of fell to the Broncos in the third round. Um,
Speaker 1: there were, you know, all these mocks. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: gonna go in the second round, ended up being there
Speaker 1: at eighty three. I believe for the Broncos, I would
Speaker 1: think he would start on day one. He's a start
Speaker 1: and smart, instinctive guy. Hat Shermer said the other day
Speaker 1: that you know, he's been really impressed by cushionberries work ethic,
Speaker 1: by's intelligence, how much he's been able to grasp of
Speaker 1: the system. Again, some of that's gonna have to do
Speaker 1: with how much time do they get on the field
Speaker 1: and camp before the first game. And then Graham Glasgow
Speaker 1: at right guard, who came over from the Lions, signed
Speaker 1: a four year deal, has allowed one sack over the
Speaker 1: last two seasons. He's really good in past protection and
Speaker 1: serviceable in the run game as well. You know, if
Speaker 1: Cushion Berry is not ready, they could put Glasgow at
Speaker 1: center and move somebody maybe to right guard. Um, but
Speaker 1: I think that group of three there in the interior
Speaker 1: is pretty set. Then you look at the tackles and
Speaker 1: to me, that's kind of maybe the biggest question mark
Speaker 1: on the entire roster because you've got Jowan James, you
Speaker 1: signed in this massive contract ahead of the twenty nineteen season.
Speaker 1: He barely plays it all. He gets hurt in the
Speaker 1: first game against Oakland, comes back a little bit against
Speaker 1: the Colts, and gets hurt very quickly in Week eight
Speaker 1: when they bring him out for a Week fourteen, I
Speaker 1: believe against Houston, he plays in the first half and
Speaker 1: then doesn't play. And it was an odd situation because
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio throughout the year was kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: he's close, We're getting closer, could be this week, and
Speaker 1: it just never really materialized. And Joan eventually revealed that
Speaker 1: he just never felt structurally comfortable with how his knee
Speaker 1: was hold up. Um. But while in Denver, all the
Speaker 1: conversation is about is it gonna be Former first round
Speaker 1: pick Garrett Poles and left tack was struggled so much
Speaker 1: with holding penalties, has led the league in those types
Speaker 1: of calls over the last three years. Versus Elijah Wilkinson,
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy out of Massachusetts that played in Juwan
Speaker 1: James's place at right tackle. So that's kind of the
Speaker 1: talk of the town in terms of competition but I
Speaker 1: actually have more concerned about right tackle because I've seen
Speaker 1: Garrit Bowls play. He has not missed a game during
Speaker 1: his entire three years with the Broncos. He's going to
Speaker 1: be available. You know. If he has a holding penalty
Speaker 1: every couple of games, that's okay. But he doesn't allow sacks,
Speaker 1: doesn't allow the quarterback to get hit, which is something
Speaker 1: Elijah Wilkinson did struggle with. He allowed quite a few
Speaker 1: sacks in his time at right tackle last year. Well,
Speaker 1: one of those guys is gonna work out. But to me,
Speaker 1: you spent all this money on Juwan James. He's supposed
Speaker 1: to be this premier player, this Pro Bowl type player.
Speaker 1: We've got to see him play. Uh, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got to be in the lineup for this Broncos offense
Speaker 1: to work as well as it needs to, because if
Speaker 1: he's not their right tackle, and then you've got maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of back and forth the left tackle
Speaker 1: with Wilkinson and Balls. It doesn't matter how good Drew
Speaker 1: Lock is, It doesn't matter how good Jerry Judorquel and
Speaker 1: Sudden or No a Fan or any of these guys are.
Speaker 1: If those two tackle positions don't get solved. This team
Speaker 1: isn't going to score that many points. Yeah, the more
Speaker 1: we talk about this offense, Eric, I'm more intrigued by
Speaker 1: it because I love the way it's constructed with the
Speaker 1: idea you mentioned Graham Glasgow and Lloyd Cushionburry and how
Speaker 1: they might figure in at two of the starting spots.
Speaker 1: But it also kind of gives you some leniency in
Speaker 1: terms of who might play center because you do have
Speaker 1: Glasgow's experience there and it's so important to have that
Speaker 1: communication and experience at that position. Also fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: get Cushionberry in that spot where some folks might have
Speaker 1: thought he could have been a first round level talent.
Speaker 1: So just a really intriguing offense. And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: convincing myself more and more that I'm a quasi Broncos
Speaker 1: fan this year as we go along this podcast. And
Speaker 1: one of those reasons is I am such a big
Speaker 1: fan of the guy they brought in on the defensive line,
Speaker 1: injury rel Casey. I thought he was long one of
Speaker 1: the most underrated players in the entire National Football League,
Speaker 1: just dominating every single year on the inside for the Titans.
Speaker 1: There who else figures into this defensive line rotation alongside
Speaker 1: Casey there, because you've got some guys replaced. Derek Wolfe
Speaker 1: has now gone Darell Casey. What's the rest of that
Speaker 1: lineup look like on the defensive line. Travis was interesting
Speaker 1: because the defensive line, Uh, the cupboard was kind of
Speaker 1: bear going into free agency. You know last year's starters,
Speaker 1: he had Shelby Harris, Derek Wolfe, Adam got this kind
Speaker 1: of like Purcell fit in there, but Percell was a
Speaker 1: restricted free agent. Going into this year, Shelby Harris and
Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe were both unrestricted guys and it was kind
Speaker 1: of a chance at all three of them were going
Speaker 1: to be gone a tender. Purcell with the second round tender,
Speaker 1: so he's back. Shelby Harris sits on the market for
Speaker 1: a long time, end up doesn't get doesn't end up
Speaker 1: getting what he thinks he's going to, and signs back
Speaker 1: with Denver for a year on a super team friendly deal.
Speaker 1: And he's a guy that you know. I think he
Speaker 1: had five and a six and a half sacks last year,
Speaker 1: an impressive number, but he's not a high volume sack guy.
Speaker 1: But he batts passes all the time. I think he
Speaker 1: leads the league in that category, really impressive at getting
Speaker 1: his hands up when he can't get there on the rush.
Speaker 1: So he was a big piece. But like you mentioned
Speaker 1: Darrell Cacy and the way that kind of all unfolded,
Speaker 1: the Broncos were in hard for DJ Reader, and when
Speaker 1: he ended up signing a big deal with Cincinnati, there
Speaker 1: was kind of a sense of, you know, externally for me, man,
Speaker 1: they just missed out on a big piece. I would
Speaker 1: have really helped this team. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you find out you're sending a seventh round pick
Speaker 1: to Tennessee for Jarell Casey, who needs that salary dump
Speaker 1: to clear some room. And it's like, man, this is
Speaker 1: too good to be true. You've got a five time
Speaker 1: pro bowler that still has something left. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: is he gonna play here for five more years? It
Speaker 1: seems unlikely, but it wouldn't surprise me if you've got
Speaker 1: to three good years out of him for a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick. And with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb on
Speaker 1: the outside, who are going to demand so much attention,
Speaker 1: it finally gives the Broncos this solid interior rusher that
Speaker 1: they've kind of missed in the last few years. So
Speaker 1: I think a starting lineup of Shelby Harris, Mike Purcell
Speaker 1: and Darrell Casey as possible. It depends if they want
Speaker 1: to play Casey at tackle or end. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's quite clear yet. Another guy to know Travis on
Speaker 1: thatline is Draymond Jones, three and a half stacked last year,
Speaker 1: a third round pick from Ohio State. He kind of
Speaker 1: came on at the end of the year, was a
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Week after the Week sixteen game
Speaker 1: against the Lions when he had an exception. Uh, So
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to push him for more playing
Speaker 1: time and he could be a five to seven sad
Speaker 1: guy this year. So they've got enough depth there. Christian
Speaker 1: Comington they brought in as a freeze, and from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to Marcus Walker, a former second round pick from
Speaker 1: Florida State who hasn't quite panned out but will battle
Speaker 1: for a roster spot. So there's some guys in there,
Speaker 1: but you know, Casey is far and away the best
Speaker 1: player in that group, I think. And if there's one
Speaker 1: thing John Elway has done in Denver, it's it's bringing
Speaker 1: in veterans that can contribute right away. We saw it
Speaker 1: in the Peyton Manning Super Bowl years and one of
Speaker 1: the main part parts of that defense was DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Bradley Chubb and Von Miller. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a good transition here to the edge rusher position
Speaker 1: in the linebacker position. Now, Von Miller is still one
Speaker 1: of the top three or four pass rushers in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL. For my money, I think you'd be remissed
Speaker 1: to find folks who disagree with that, if if at all,
Speaker 1: And he had a little bit different production last year,
Speaker 1: but he's got Bradley Chubb coming off an injury to return.
Speaker 1: How do those two guys complement each other? And what
Speaker 1: is the entirety of the this Broncos linebacker corps look like? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean at the outside position. And Chubb was healthy
Speaker 1: two years ago as a rookie, he and von combined
Speaker 1: for twenty six and a half sacks, which I think
Speaker 1: was it either led all duos or was second by
Speaker 1: half a sack. I think it's possible the Chiefs Chris
Speaker 1: Jones and um trying to think who would have been
Speaker 1: there then, but I think they were possibly you know,
Speaker 1: a sack ahead. But I mean bradle Chubby twelve sacks
Speaker 1: as a rookie. He broke Vaughan's franchise rookie sack record. Um,
Speaker 1: he did it differently. He's more of a power guy,
Speaker 1: a bowl rush. Um, he'll push you over, while Vaughan's
Speaker 1: kind of that speed agility. He's got that dip. He
Speaker 1: calls it the ghost move, where he dips under you
Speaker 1: before you can even touch him. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: we saw in Super Bowl fifty against Cam Newton and
Speaker 1: so together, I still think Vaughan has the capability to
Speaker 1: get to double digit sacks at fourteen and a half
Speaker 1: in when playing with Bradley Chubb. But to me, I
Speaker 1: kind of expect Bradley Chubb to lead this team in
Speaker 1: sacks just because how motivated he has been to come
Speaker 1: back from this injury. He showed his talent. Uh in.
Speaker 1: Something that impressed me too is Vaughan has always kind
Speaker 1: of his sack numbers have trailed off a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the end of seasons, whereas Bradley's numbers in kind
Speaker 1: of picked up a little bit. And so it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if you know, maybe he's in that fifteen
Speaker 1: to six teen range and maybe Vaughan's in the twelve
Speaker 1: to thirteen range, but both really good players. If they're
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. With Jarrell Casey's interior rush, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me to see this Broncos defense, you know,
Speaker 1: the top five and sacks maybe lead the league in sex.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to end up being as dominant
Speaker 1: defensively as they've been since. And we'll get to the
Speaker 1: secondary in a second, I'm sure, but that's kind of
Speaker 1: the concern. But as far as ed rushers go, they're
Speaker 1: set there. They've got some good depth with Jeremiah tATu
Speaker 1: Um there and then Malik Read, an undrafted player who
Speaker 1: came on last year. Inside linebacker wise, I think there's
Speaker 1: probably more questions. You've got Alexander Johnson who emerged last
Speaker 1: year as a really good player, UH and former five
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler L Wilson, who played for the Broncos,
Speaker 1: thinks he's got the makings of an All Pro. Just
Speaker 1: has the physicality you want, the sideline to sideline speed
Speaker 1: they plays in pass coverage. But he's a bigger guy,
Speaker 1: and so I think the Broncos still need to find
Speaker 1: UH that linebacker that can cover a tight end can
Speaker 1: cover a running back out of the backfield right now.
Speaker 1: That guy's Todd Davis, who's been there for several years,
Speaker 1: has been a starter for the last three. I believe,
Speaker 1: uh In Todd's a tackle machine, but he's not what
Speaker 1: you would probably hope for in pass coverage. And so
Speaker 1: I think if the Broncos, you know, they drafted Justin
Speaker 1: Stern had at a wake Forest, maybe he can step
Speaker 1: in there a little bit and help out. But otherwise
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the questions I have is
Speaker 1: when you go up against Travis Kelsey, how do you
Speaker 1: stop him? Because that's the and I know we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins and the Broncos here, but in a
Speaker 1: bigger picture, since when you face those big time tight ends,
Speaker 1: what do you do. In the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: linebacker has not been the answer for the Broncos, and
Speaker 1: that that does translate well to the Dolphins too, because
Speaker 1: we have a really athletic Marvel and Micah Sikey on
Speaker 1: the roster here that can cause some problems up the scene.
Speaker 1: Caught a bunch of touchdowns towards the end of the
Speaker 1: year last year. It really came on strong in his
Speaker 1: second season I just want to continue this theme real
Speaker 1: quick about my newfound Broncos fandom that I wasn't even
Speaker 1: aware of until this podcast. But you know, von Miller
Speaker 1: did those old Spice commercials for so long. They were
Speaker 1: my favorite commercial on TV. Was were some of those
Speaker 1: Von Miller commercials. Then you've got Bradley Chubb, who I
Speaker 1: fell in love with Throughout the draft process. I used
Speaker 1: to take these videos of draft players and say, here's
Speaker 1: why I liked them. And there was a clip of
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb after he had gotten bumped very slightly after
Speaker 1: a play there at South Carolina in college, and he
Speaker 1: like flopped backwards and rolled around in the end zone
Speaker 1: and act like he just got ran over by a truck.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. The guy's full of personalities. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you well know you mentioned the secondary there. Eric, Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and move back to the final position group here.
Speaker 1: Lots of change back there. Another player I was a
Speaker 1: big fan of, Chris Harris, is now out a j
Speaker 1: boy in. How does that impact the type of coverage
Speaker 1: and type of defense they want to play in that
Speaker 1: secondary for Denver? Yeh? I mean this, This secondary played
Speaker 1: man for so long when Wade Phillips was here, and
Speaker 1: then Joe Woods took over for and after he left
Speaker 1: for l A. And that's really what they did when
Speaker 1: the No Fly Zone as they called themselves, with t
Speaker 1: J Ward, Darry and Stewart, Chris Harris keep to leave
Speaker 1: Bradley Roby. I mean, they played man and press man
Speaker 1: a lot, and they made players on the ball. And
Speaker 1: and Vic Fangio is more of his own guy, and
Speaker 1: he wants to put these cornerbacks in position to make
Speaker 1: plays again. And that's where I think a J. Boyer
Speaker 1: fits in really nicely. He came over for a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick this offseason from Jacksonville. I loved that move
Speaker 1: before free agency starts, because I mean, you guys were
Speaker 1: able to pick up Byron Jones. You had some other
Speaker 1: cornerback options on the market. But the issue if you
Speaker 1: wait till free agency is that you know one or
Speaker 1: two of them are gone real quick, and now you
Speaker 1: have to either overpay or you're just stuck without a
Speaker 1: top option. And so I love John Elway going out
Speaker 1: spending a fourth round pick on a guy like a J.
Speaker 1: Boyer who still has got a couple of years left
Speaker 1: on his contract, has played at a Pro Bowl level
Speaker 1: in kind of filling that need before free to see
Speaker 1: even the game. I mean, I was impressed by that
Speaker 1: boy had six six picks in so he has that
Speaker 1: knack for making plays on the ball, which the Broncos
Speaker 1: really need. They haven't forced enough turnovers the last few years.
Speaker 1: The rest of the cornerback position is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a question mark for me. Bryce Callahan is expected
Speaker 1: to be a starter. He was as good as any
Speaker 1: nickel cornerback in the league with Chicago, but then broke
Speaker 1: his foot at the end of the year, reaggravated it
Speaker 1: in training camp ahead of last season, and just he
Speaker 1: was never able to get on the field. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about John James kind of the stop and
Speaker 1: start nature of his season. Kellyan and play a single snap,
Speaker 1: and so he's supposedly healthy now he said he's ready
Speaker 1: to go, but we have no idea where he's gonna
Speaker 1: fit in. I mean, Vic Fangio has said this is
Speaker 1: a guy that can play outside cornerback, but we've just
Speaker 1: never seen it, and he's not a big guy, and
Speaker 1: so I would expect him to still end up in
Speaker 1: that slot position, and then the Broncos have to find
Speaker 1: a third cornerbacks and how they've got options on their roster,
Speaker 1: guys like third round Michael O j. Moodia from Iowa,
Speaker 1: Davante Bosby, Deavante Harris, Isaac Yadam third Thick from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But one of those guys is
Speaker 1: gonna have to grow up really fast or else. When
Speaker 1: you play teams with multiple options, you're not gonna have answers,
Speaker 1: um And maybe one of those answers, Travis, is you
Speaker 1: turn to your safeties, because I do think that, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about Bradley Chubb and Vondemoller, we talked about
Speaker 1: Quoton Sudden and Jerry Judy, but between Kareem Jackson and
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons, I mean, that could be one of the
Speaker 1: best safety duos in the league. Justin Simmons a second
Speaker 1: team All Pro last year and had seven fifteen pass breakups,
Speaker 1: which was ten more than the season before. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just an impressive player that's rising up the ranks
Speaker 1: among safeties in the league. Has been Franchise tag. I
Speaker 1: think we'll find out here within the next week and
Speaker 1: a half what's gonna happen with that, Whether he's gonna
Speaker 1: play on the tag or sign a long term deal,
Speaker 1: and hopefully it's the latter, because he's a guy that
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year, has done everything right,
Speaker 1: has made plays and gotten better and better, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's that ball hawking free safety. Cream Jackson
Speaker 1: is a hard hitting guy. Laid out DeAndre Hopkins last
Speaker 1: year in Houston. Together they make a really good pair.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that third cornerback position and then
Speaker 1: left and right tackle, if they can financers there, this
Speaker 1: roster is pretty solid. Those are holes that those aren't
Speaker 1: places where you want those things to show up. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's one of those situations where you play a
Speaker 1: little more big nickel and bring a third safety onto
Speaker 1: the field. I mean, you can find that. That's the
Speaker 1: thing I like about the modern day NFL game is
Speaker 1: it's not just about we have to have this week
Speaker 1: side linebacker and play him here. We have to have
Speaker 1: this corn you know, you can just you can just
Speaker 1: put your best five in a position group on the
Speaker 1: field in today's NFL and just match up that way.
Speaker 1: But then again, I guess a zone defense maybe it's
Speaker 1: not as easy there in Denver, and maybe you covered
Speaker 1: this question for me here already on the podcast, Eric,
Speaker 1: but I want to know who is the most unsung
Speaker 1: player on the Broncos roster that people aren't talking about.
Speaker 1: Maybe even two years ago it was Justin Simmons. But
Speaker 1: I think that ship has sale because that's one of
Speaker 1: the best safeties in the NFL. Like you mentioned, who
Speaker 1: was the next guy that we're going to hear about
Speaker 1: in a year or two on this Broncos roster that
Speaker 1: no one's talking about right now? Yeah, I'll give you
Speaker 1: one for each side of the ball. And you know,
Speaker 1: I do think before I get to that, I don't
Speaker 1: think Cortland Sutton gets enough attention even though he was
Speaker 1: a pro bowler. Um, he's not talked about right now
Speaker 1: in the same conversation with the DeAndre Hopkins and Julio Jones. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know he's getting close to that. So before I
Speaker 1: kind of name these two players, but I think Noah
Speaker 1: Fant is one obviously a first round pick, but I
Speaker 1: think he's about to have a breakout year. You look
Speaker 1: at some of the members that a Travis Kelsey and
Speaker 1: George Kittle, Rob Gronkowski that they posted in their first year,
Speaker 1: very similar to what Noah Fan did his in his
Speaker 1: first year last year, so really wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: he gets up in the eaty catch range at nearest
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. Um you know, has eight nine touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a Pro Bowl type player.
Speaker 1: And then I know I mentioned Alexander Johnson briefly at
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. He's a guy that was outside of football
Speaker 1: for so long because of legal issues and is now
Speaker 1: playing and is just so athletic. Was a first round
Speaker 1: type talent. Um. You know, it takes a while to
Speaker 1: get to the Pro Bowl because it's in part of
Speaker 1: a popularity contest, you know, how well do people know you.
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that I think you're talking about
Speaker 1: two or three years from now. He's going to be
Speaker 1: getting a big contract. He's going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a household name in Denver, and I think if you
Speaker 1: know football, people will see how talented he is as
Speaker 1: a linebacker. And Eric, you mentioned a couple of the
Speaker 1: week spots there you might be concerned about heading into
Speaker 1: training camp, and I would assume that's part of your
Speaker 1: answer from my final question for you. Here, we've got
Speaker 1: Eric D. Lala of Denver Broncos dot Com here on
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast. The Broncos make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1: If oh, I mean it's Drew. I mean, if Drew
Speaker 1: is good, that's really Oh there is to it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a tough schedule. I think ESPN s the Broncos
Speaker 1: with the toughest schedule in the league. Um, you've got
Speaker 1: to play the NFC South, so you've got home games
Speaker 1: against the Saints of the Bucks. You've got to go
Speaker 1: on the road on Thursday Night Football to play the Jets,
Speaker 1: and you've got to go on the road to play
Speaker 1: the Patriots, who now look a lot tougher. There's not
Speaker 1: a game on the schedule that I think you can
Speaker 1: guarantee you win for you know, in some teams when
Speaker 1: you look at the schedule, as you can do right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to win the games that they have
Speaker 1: to win. And I know that sounds kind of simple
Speaker 1: and maybe obvious, but they have to be able to
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers team with either Tyrod Taylor or Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert at quarterback. And the way that all happens is
Speaker 1: if Drew Lock is able to take that next step,
Speaker 1: if he is not as good as he was last year,
Speaker 1: or if he falls off or you know, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: he doesn't take that next step, then all these resources
Speaker 1: you've invested with Jerry Judy and Graham Glasgow and Lloyd
Speaker 1: Cushionberry and kJ Hamler and even some of the defensive
Speaker 1: moves with Darrell Casey. I mean those are wasted to
Speaker 1: some extent if Drew isn't able to live up to
Speaker 1: the pressure that he now faces. And make no mistake,
Speaker 1: it's in the off season of Drew Lock. They've done
Speaker 1: everything to help him. They put in a position to succeed,
Speaker 1: They've empowered him, but now he's got to go do it,
Speaker 1: and so he faces some of that pressure. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't throw these interceptions and put the defense in
Speaker 1: a bad situation. Um. But I think if he's able
Speaker 1: to progress like we expect and like I think he will,
Speaker 1: the Broncos are gonna be good enough to score twenty
Speaker 1: five points a game. And now the defense isn't on
Speaker 1: these short field situations around the field for thirty forty minutes.
Speaker 1: Uh And even though the schedule is tough, I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna lead to better football and put you in
Speaker 1: a position where you can win nine, ten, eleven. If
Speaker 1: you're being really generous games, um, and I think we
Speaker 1: saw the poise from Drew last year that shows he's
Speaker 1: up to the challenge. But I mean, hey, he had
Speaker 1: everything you can ask for in terms of an offseason
Speaker 1: in it and now you know, now it's sister to
Speaker 1: do it. It's exactly right. I think if nothing else,
Speaker 1: you have to give the Broncos credit for making the
Speaker 1: conviction that the idea to go out and just attack
Speaker 1: this offseason to make it Drew locks football team. I
Speaker 1: love when teams do that with their young quarterbacks. He
Speaker 1: is Eric delaala uh Denver Broncos dot com. You can
Speaker 1: find him on Twitter at Eric da Lalla. Eric, we
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, man, Thank you so much and go
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your vacation. Sir, Hey, thank you
Speaker 1: and the way he goes. Eric de la la of
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