WEBVTT - Ep. 67: Bear Grease [Render] - Tavin, Tik Tok, and Turkey Salmon

0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.080
<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay and Nukeleman. This is a production

0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render,

0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.160
<v Speaker 1>where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the

0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f

0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320
<v Speaker 1>HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear

0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore.

0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.000
<v Speaker 1>There's there's three things that I check my phone for

0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.560
<v Speaker 1>emergencies at work, and there's only a handful of people

0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that consume me. Those our kids, you know, getting stitches

0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.800
<v Speaker 1>from work, which I don't think they knows how much

0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of my life is devoted to chaper chauffeuring and organizing

0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.360
<v Speaker 1>show first for our children. Um. And then the third

0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.080
<v Speaker 1>thing that would be an I'd look at my phone

0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for would be to fact check. Clay feel like your

0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.440
<v Speaker 1>job here is to fact check, not to fact check you.

0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.640
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you'll be like, I don't know, look that

0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.800
<v Speaker 1>up and I'll just do it right then and then

0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll come back on the podcast. I mean, I think

0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm a valuable as really diplomatic way to say that.

0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And then in that way, hey, let me let me

0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you all a story. Okay, this actually happened this

0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.720
<v Speaker 1>very day. Story, this happened this very and this this

0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:44.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to set up other stories inside this podcast. Okay,

0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's important that you pay attention. You may not

0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>be able to tell. But I've kind of been the

0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:53.560
<v Speaker 1>fitness um and I was running this morning and I

0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.600
<v Speaker 1>run a very long stretch. I won't tell you how

0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.800
<v Speaker 1>far I run, but was running down the highway and

0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I had actually I stopped to walk a section because

0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I was running so far that I was walking down

0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the highway, lonely stretched two lane highway. I've done this

0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:16.480
<v Speaker 1>for years, decades. One other time, one time someone stopped

0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and asked me if I needed a ride. He was

0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:24.040
<v Speaker 1>driving like probably a nineteen eighties late model work truck.

0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Rough guy, no A A C. And he was like

0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you need and I was like, no, I'm good, I'm exercising.

0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, guy. Today years later, hundreds of cars passed

0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.600
<v Speaker 1>me every day. A guy slows down and I feel

0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.359
<v Speaker 1>him slowing down, and he stops and he goes. He

0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.080
<v Speaker 1>leaves his window up, but he points at me and

0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he points in the seat like the passenger seat, like

0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like you you you want to ride right here? And

0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I smiled real big, and I go no, and I

0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.760
<v Speaker 1>do my arms like I'm running, like because I can't

0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.079
<v Speaker 1>talk to him, He's gotta win it up. Is it

0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:04.360
<v Speaker 1>not obvious that I'm covered in sweat and I just

0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>look like a dirty guy walking down the road. And

0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he stops to pick up this dirty guy walking down

0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the road, and it's like, you want to get in

0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.040
<v Speaker 1>my truck and ride with me? And I do arms

0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like I'm running, and I say I'm running, I'm exercising,

0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and he goes oh. He does like a big like

0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>old face, and then he does the running thing. He

0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.400
<v Speaker 1>does his arms up and down and I go yeah,

0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and then he pumps his fists like yeah, good job, fitness.

0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Way to go, and then he drives off. And the

0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.200
<v Speaker 1>man was wearing a pair of overalls. He hadn't been

0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.760
<v Speaker 1>in his early seventies, gray headed, nice beard glasses. Here's

0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the hook of the story. He had a pair of decals,

0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.560
<v Speaker 1>big decals on the back side of his truck of

0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a man riding a mule, beautiful like a silhouette. You

0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.680
<v Speaker 1>know how guys will have pictures on tavin. Do you

0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.400
<v Speaker 1>know about that? I know my pictures. I'm a little

0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of an artist. Yeah, I draw things. Huh yeah,

0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you give me a pen and pad, buddy, holl go

0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to town all day long. It was like someone like

0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you had done that, and the and and there were

0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.120
<v Speaker 1>these huge exaggerated ears. So it was a mule This

0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.120
<v Speaker 1>was a mule man. And as soon as he went

0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.480
<v Speaker 1>around the corner, I was like wanting to wave him down.

0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to talk to the guy. But that,

0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to me displayed the the internal character of you know,

0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a mule man. I thought you were gonna say it

0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.680
<v Speaker 1>was the same feller that stopped years ago. I thought

0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.479
<v Speaker 1>that was the hook man. That would have been a

0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.559
<v Speaker 1>good story because you're like, now he's got a beard

0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's all old kind of thing, and he only

0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.360
<v Speaker 1>do sign language because you don't like to row to

0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:46.400
<v Speaker 1>window down. He would have had a nicer truck. Welcome

0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.839
<v Speaker 1>to the Bargaras Podcast. Everyone. We've got a We've got

0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:54.159
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic uh line up for you today. Um. I'd

0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like to introduce the people here. As usual, I will

0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.080
<v Speaker 1>get introduce our guest. At the end. We're gonna go counterclockwise,

0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.239
<v Speaker 1>which usually is is it's different than usual. I would

0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.359
<v Speaker 1>like to introduce my dad, Gary Newcomb. Gary Black Panther

0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Knwcombe sitting over in the corner with the mannequin of

0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the with a black panther head right there in the

0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.400
<v Speaker 1>believer head, yeah, and the believer hat. How you doing, man,

0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.359
<v Speaker 1>A real good, real good. You've been playing golf a

0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit, a little bit. Do you hear my comments

0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.600
<v Speaker 1>about I did? How did that make you feel? Well?

0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one. You're a loser man. Uh no,

0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.920
<v Speaker 1>no really, Uh, you weren't cut out for it. But

0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.880
<v Speaker 1>but you did the same thing. I mean, you had

0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of diversity. Yeah, that's all I was saying exactly.

0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I hat tipped to exactly what you

0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see. But also you were a specialist. I mean,

0:05:52.400 --> 0:06:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, your your diversity was fishing, canoeing, hunting, redneck looks,

0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:11.479
<v Speaker 1>good looking women, I mean, and I'll fit in there. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, No,

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I had to bring you up in that because that

0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was a good question. Okay, that was just the intro. Man,

0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.599
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be hot today. To Gary's right overpassing our

0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.640
<v Speaker 1>guest is Missy KNEWKEM welcome, ms nukemb the only good

0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.080
<v Speaker 1>looking woman right. That's exactly right. The rest of them.

0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:34.280
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. So there's something we got to talk

0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.320
<v Speaker 1>about later. Um, I'm gonna wait. There's a campaign going

0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.240
<v Speaker 1>on in the world that I would like for Misty

0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to introduce. But first of all, Brent Reeves, great to

0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.960
<v Speaker 1>see you. We're in a good overalls. Bring Whalen Jennings hat.

0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.040
<v Speaker 1>That's whaleon hat since generic when your coon dogs names

0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Whalen and he's named after the one of the icons

0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of outlaw country music, real country. Using it doesn't it

0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt. It's just a it's a happy coincidence. So

0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.960
<v Speaker 1>but I like both of them. Okay, Well let's see

0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a bran back to the middle we have today. Tavin Dillard.

0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, man, I'm good. It's a it's

0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to have you as a guest. Hey, it's

0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.880
<v Speaker 1>good to be here. I'm glad you have to air

0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.720
<v Speaker 1>on it here. It's hotter than the wolfstock futtle baked

0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.440
<v Speaker 1>beans out there. I'm glad I found my way in here. Yeah. Man,

0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it's got a cool down in the office. Well you

0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.120
<v Speaker 1>called us the office, Well I call it the Global

0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Headquarters of former Global Headquarters of the Bear Hunting magazine.

0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.800
<v Speaker 1>There's an acronym for it, um f are. I don't know.

0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's a lot of spelling. That's a

0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of words you're thrown out. But I'll tell you.

0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here, and I hope I can

0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.160
<v Speaker 1>be a help. I'm not sure what we're doing today.

0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.160
<v Speaker 1>If we taxidermy and animals were we're just talking about them.

0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm game. What do you think of the office, man?

0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it. This is the first time in here.

0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I got my feet on a bear. That's right, that's

0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.000
<v Speaker 1>rights antlers. I don't want to lean into this thing.

0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.800
<v Speaker 1>These things are sharp over here. Yeah, what beel? You

0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't that one? Didn't you? And who's that behind me? Yeah?

0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Big bear right behind you? How did he get here?

0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you do that? I mean in the space. I

0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:18.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say I did that, that's not the words at

0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a full mount uh full body, But I would say

0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a bear that I that I harvested, that

0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I killed, ate his meat. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah,

0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I just thought I did was a quicker way to

0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:37.000
<v Speaker 1>say that. Where are you from from? Kansas Chancellor Park? Really? Yeah?

0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that where you grew up. Yeah, and I got

0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.600
<v Speaker 1>here on my back today. Yeah, it's not that far

0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.800
<v Speaker 1>from a global headquarters. Well not too bad. And I've

0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.040
<v Speaker 1>seen that you know, the door was unlocked, so yeah,

0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we had an extra spot. So appreciate you, Tavin. I

0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.360
<v Speaker 1>know your mem all. She she called me on the

0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:58.240
<v Speaker 1>land line and she said that in about thirty minutes,

0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you gotta roll. I know, I know. She wanted me

0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to fetch the mellow yellow for and she got her

0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.400
<v Speaker 1>on a bag of hot Price and and I ain't

0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna give her those because they had one back left,

0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'll bring her support Ryn's She's gonna be fine.

0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.760
<v Speaker 1>But she do like to stick to a schedule, and

0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.120
<v Speaker 1>for some reason things she thinks I gotta stick to

0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.480
<v Speaker 1>her schedule too. And it's gonna be with us for

0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like just for a little bit, just enough to say, hey, yeah,

0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it's great to have you here. Man, it's good to

0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.800
<v Speaker 1>be here. I appreciate you man. Miss Newcomb. Would you

0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like to introduce the new campaign that's been started on

0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.040
<v Speaker 1>your behalf and explain what it is. If you don't,

0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I would be glad to explain it. I would like

0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to have my representative introduce it. But if you want

0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to explain it. That's fine. Well if I introduced it,

0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>would it would it would make the point exactly. Okay,

0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm following you. Go ahead, Brent. Hashtag let Misty talk.

0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's time. It's way, it's past time for this.

0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I read the review. We get a five star review.

0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Now that's what this guy is. He's indeed, he's indeed,

0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.520
<v Speaker 1>but he says quote, I love everything about the podcast,

0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.320
<v Speaker 1>but it drives me crazy. Every time Missy tries to

0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.560
<v Speaker 1>tell a story, Clay just cuts her off. I feel

0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.839
<v Speaker 1>so bad for that woman. I think my mom wrote that.

0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:27.400
<v Speaker 1>She just wrote down what. I'm zipping my lips thoughts.

0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess you let her talk, buddy. I mean, that's

0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that's not even like a subtle you know, like wink wink.

0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't do that. Just let Missy go. You got

0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a story today, Missy, you got something you want to talk?

0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I got lots. I need a shirt. I need a shirt.

0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Hashtag let Missy talk. We're just gonna take the next

0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.760
<v Speaker 1>few minutes and Missy, you just you just take us

0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.760
<v Speaker 1>where you want to go and I'll try to talk.

0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.559
<v Speaker 1>On the second. Let me let me say something on that.

0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It is true though. Clay always he likes to he

0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.040
<v Speaker 1>likes to be the one. And we've got one of

0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.760
<v Speaker 1>our kids is like this too. They always like to

0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>be the one that drops the punchline. And he always

0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he always thinks that he drops the punchline better than me,

0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and he definitely gets there faster. But it's he likes to.

0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, actually he doesn't. Did y'all hear how long

0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:21.560
<v Speaker 1>we had? He he's struggling, biting his tongue. What don't

0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you tell that story? What happened? He's so excited and

0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.480
<v Speaker 1>then you start telling and he's like, she's doing that

0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.320
<v Speaker 1>when he really wants his missy team me up so

0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I could tell And that's what he always does, like

0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.160
<v Speaker 1>do you want me to tell it? It's like, well,

0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of enjoying telling it. Okay, let me

0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.680
<v Speaker 1>let me this is the way this goes, Tavin. Yeah, buddy,

0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you'd let me know if your memal I retreated you

0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like this? Uh same. So there will be this incredible

0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.400
<v Speaker 1>story that should take five to seven minutes and have

0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.880
<v Speaker 1>some enthralling content inside of that, and the punch line

0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:07.080
<v Speaker 1>is and then the turkey flew off this example punch line, Um,

0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna he's looking right at There are people

0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.720
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes will tell this incredible story. It's this moment

0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have with this people, and they might be like, yeah,

0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they went hunting and then the turkey flew off pause

0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and then no. No, I'm always rushing to get to

0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the to the punch line because i know I'm going

0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to be interrupted. If i don't get there, I'm not

0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.520
<v Speaker 1>getting it. So I've got to get there pretty fast,

0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.640
<v Speaker 1>just just on a podcast or just suppers. And there's

0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.320
<v Speaker 1>there's certain contexts that it comes out more and and

0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate Clays trying to keep things on, you know,

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in a row in the podcast. So so I'll allow it.

0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.320
<v Speaker 1>But but also I've noticed that when we are when

0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we're with my family going often I'm not kidding, my

0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.360
<v Speaker 1>family is like a high interruption. There's a lot of learned.

0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.400
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna talk about it, you better get it in.

0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.920
<v Speaker 1>If they've been around people like that. I've heard people

0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that tell the fol stories like out a way, Yeah,

0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.600
<v Speaker 1>But I guess what you're saying is you don't want

0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to start the story like, hey, you want to hear

0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about the time the turkey flew off, and then you

0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.439
<v Speaker 1>go into your story and you're done told everything like,

0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you gotta build it up. You gotta keep people caring

0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.560
<v Speaker 1>about what you're doing. I do that all the time. Yeah,

0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I did that all the time. Whether I can buy ramping,

0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>doing cannonballs at the city pool, trying to catch a

0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.679
<v Speaker 1>turkey salmon, I mean, all those kind of things. You

0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta figure out how you're going to let people know

0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.839
<v Speaker 1>that they wish they should have been there, you know

0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, hey, I know. Do you

0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have I heard a story one time you told about crow? Yeah.

0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a hundred scarlies about crows in my

0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.959
<v Speaker 1>trailer park. Uh when first of all, they like to

0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.319
<v Speaker 1>eat food. Everybody knows that, just like any animal, they

0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.600
<v Speaker 1>eat food. That's how that go. You know, they ain't

0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.880
<v Speaker 1>made out of play though, they animal, so that's how.

0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.839
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, it's Candy Roy. She little girl on the

0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.520
<v Speaker 1>trailer park. She knocked on my door. I don't know

0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.480
<v Speaker 1>how she had a full adult grow growed crow adult

0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh like gets away both little hands. I don't know

0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.320
<v Speaker 1>how she knocked and she caught that thing. I asked

0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.240
<v Speaker 1>her why, and she said this because they're easy to catch,

0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.439
<v Speaker 1>which that really ain't a good reason to do stuff

0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in life, you know, just because you can do it.

0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And then uh, she wanted to make a house out

0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.240
<v Speaker 1>of there's a cardboard box underneed my trailer. She wanted

0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to build like a house and put a prairie dress

0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.040
<v Speaker 1>on it. And but all of this was news to

0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the crow, Like he was looking at me like, bank bank,

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.520
<v Speaker 1>can you help me start? Like I don't fake crow,

0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.400
<v Speaker 1>but like looking at his little bank banks, I was like,

0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure he don't want to be here. So

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I came up with an idea. But the thing about

0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it is dim crows. They you know, like I'm a

0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.240
<v Speaker 1>good cannonballer at the city poo and people's like, how

0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in the world's having you get so good? It's like,

0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, how does the crow know to die

0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.920
<v Speaker 1>bomb open bag of onions? They just born with it,

0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like out of way. So the thing about

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it is dim crow's being after my snacks in the

0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.000
<v Speaker 1>trailer park. After Candy Delroy caught it and said, I'm

0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna put a bonnet on you in feririe dress. You're

0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna live in that box? Uh, I said, Candy, if

0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you you love that crow. She goes, oh, yeah, I do,

0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 1>And I said, why did you let that go? And

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.800
<v Speaker 1>if it fly back, you know it's meant to bake

0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.920
<v Speaker 1>County crow. The crow thought that was a good idea,

0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>like he ain't got dumb because you know about crows,

0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they got wings. But when he flowed up, he was

0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like bank Bengalo, thumbs up, like over shoulder, like yes,

0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they have shoulders. Yeah, that's kind

0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of what he did. That's what I felt like he did.

0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where a crow's shoulders start, if they

0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.120
<v Speaker 1>even have. Him kind of chroologist. But he blowed away happy,

0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Candy might have done the trailer

0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.720
<v Speaker 1>parker favor. Because they don't want to. They're gonna tell

0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.240
<v Speaker 1>their friends, hey, don't go back over there, and that's

0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.680
<v Speaker 1>then I can leave my funnions out, hot prize out,

0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.880
<v Speaker 1>powdered doughnuts. Uh. They like dr Pepper Two didn't know

0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.920
<v Speaker 1>doubt about crows. Really yeah, how did they drink a

0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.480
<v Speaker 1>dr pepper straw straw? They love the straw. I didn't

0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.880
<v Speaker 1>think they'd have the suction capacity. You and me both

0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Clay give and me both funny. But it interesting. Yeah,

0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you're wearing a pretty cool shirt. Uh. Yes. The

0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.280
<v Speaker 1>turkey salmon, they're pretty elusive, very rare. Talk to. Well,

0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know how to call it turkey? Yeah, okay, Well

0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I know how to call it turkey salmon because it's

0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.960
<v Speaker 1>two two parts with a turkey salmon, because one is

0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a call. But you gotta get up, you know you

0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you know how the salmon swim out the water like

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that a way and then they're hard to find. Well,

0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a salmon. Imagine your mind's eye if you're

0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a listener at home, because the podcast for your ears,

0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.760
<v Speaker 1>so they're listening. Uh, the sam going out to water.

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta you gotta give it to shake if you're

0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to catch the elusive turkey sam. Okay, yeah,

0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's a two thing. Like somebody you can call

0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a turkey. All you need your voice, you call turkey salmon.

0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna need the body too. Is there turkey in here? Oh?

0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.280
<v Speaker 1>That was clay? Yeah that was good. Interesting, You got

0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.760
<v Speaker 1>me interesting. So that's good. So I mean, if you

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>ever catch one, I hope you get it mounted in

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.960
<v Speaker 1>here with these other animals, because I ain't been able

0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to catch the turkeys. Uh, I've never seen one tavern,

0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'll be looking out for him. Yeah. Hey, uh,

0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 1>let me know if you have any insight into this.

0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a this is a a real, a live

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:05.119
<v Speaker 1>deal that do you remember the radio show back in

0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.159
<v Speaker 1>back in our hometown where every morning they would just

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.000
<v Speaker 1>sell stuff. People would call in and sell stuff like

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a swap shop dilla trade, Like it's pretty common. We're

0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna start a new section on the Burgrease render of

0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.639
<v Speaker 1>like a Dillar trade essentially, and I'm gonna be the

0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:30.440
<v Speaker 1>first guy. I have something that I legitimately want to sell. Okay,

0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And this may be a little bit of a whip

0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>lash from maybe what you've heard me talk about from

0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.480
<v Speaker 1>last week. Um, do you remember I talked about the

0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>mule banjo last week? That last render I went into

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>detail of all he's done. So it's a long, complicated story.

0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And for people that don't have mules or equon animals,

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.159
<v Speaker 1>don't even pretend to have, think that you have an

0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>appropriate level of empathy for a man in my position? Okay?

0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that fair? I mean, like, if you don't have

0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a mule, oh, you don't know what I'm going through.

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You're just guessing. You're doing that's it, You're just guessing. Well,

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>my friend Ty Evans T. S. Mules answered on his

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:21.600
<v Speaker 1>podcast T. S Mules podcast about what I should do

0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>to fix Banjo, and he gave a great answer, and

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it was I mean, it's like as good answer as

0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>could have been given, you know, and uh, I, I

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just don't know. Did I can do it? And Dad,

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>last time, when I told Banjo's bucked me off twice,

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he's kicked me once. I came across a picture and

0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't show it because it shows some delicate parts

0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:52.479
<v Speaker 1>of a man's body high on the outside right thigh, okay,

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and there was a big black spot about as big

0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.280
<v Speaker 1>as a baseball right there on on my leg where

0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.119
<v Speaker 1>he kicked me. So Dad said, last time, you were like,

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.200
<v Speaker 1>answer is easy, sell it. And then I was like, nah, man,

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a good mule. This is gonna

0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.120
<v Speaker 1>work out. I can work through this. And then this

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>week I go to meet a man that was on

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the former Barony Magazine podcast named Lloyd Holly. Lloyd is

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>an older gentleman in his seventies and basically made a

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.720
<v Speaker 1>living for thirty five years in the Mule Business had

0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.919
<v Speaker 1>a mule farm called Hollywood Mule Farm. Oh yeah, you

0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.959
<v Speaker 1>did a podcast podcast with Lloyd Holly. I was with

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Holly this week. We were looking at my friend

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Michael Lanier, who's considered buying a mule. Me and Mr

0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Holly are sitting there watching Michael Lanier ride this

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 1>really nice mule around, and I begin to tell Lloyd

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Holly about my situation. And there's something I like about

0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.120
<v Speaker 1>people when and it's not always right, and you can't

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.639
<v Speaker 1>always trust this type of advice, but I like the

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 1>certainty of it. And sometimes this type of certainty just

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 1>captures you and you're just like, yeah, that's the right answer.

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I like. Given the extended version of Banjo's progress, and

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I go, what do I do? Mr Lloyd And I

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.919
<v Speaker 1>expected him to go, well, Clay, you're probably gonna need

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to do this. You're gonna need to do this this

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 1>He said, sell it. Wow, that's what your dad? What

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>do you think think about that mule? I mean, once

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I get kicked in the upper thigh with a big

0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 1>old bone bruise and your pet probably had deep bone bruise,

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I'd be I'd probably be done trying to write that thing,

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>especially that ain't the first time, right, yeah, yeah, Well,

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean if it was one of your children, you

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>hang on to him a little while, or maybe they're

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>getting close to being raised and out the house. I

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. You can't set up mule free like that,

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>like go to college kind of thing. So oh, I

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.679
<v Speaker 1>thought you were saying if it had kicked one of

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.680
<v Speaker 1>my kids. You know, I'm saying, like, if you got

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a child that's giving you trouble. You don't quit on

0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a child, but you might quit on the mule. Boy,

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I see it. I don't know, though I ain't met

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.360
<v Speaker 1>this band Jim speak, so that that's reflection of a

0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>man's internal character. I don't think. So, well, what do

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you need that mule for? For? Lots of stuff? Taba?

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Does it do that stuff you need it for? No,

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>So you say, so it ain't old. This is a

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>juvenile he's going through Okay, he's going through a rebellious

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.919
<v Speaker 1>stage exactly. Well, you just hope he comes out on

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the other side, because if he get into some of

0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>them extracurricular things teenagers get into, he may be no

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>good for you later down the road. I don't know.

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what mules get into when they rebellious.

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>But if they're kicking me like that, they're powerful. I

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.679
<v Speaker 1>know that that could have broke your leg. But that

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.880
<v Speaker 1>being said, uh, this is a nice mule. Um, so

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 1>he is now officially for sale, like for real for sale.

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I don't know how you can contact me

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to purchase this mule, but I want

0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to say he's for sale, not on sale. And uh,

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 1>he's actually a very very beautiful mule. He's uh, it's

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of a sort a light sorrel. He has white socks,

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.120
<v Speaker 1>which it makes him a flashy mule. He's right at

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen maybe a little bit over fifteen hands. He's been

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>packed on quite a bit, Like you could take this

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 1>animal and use this pack mule today. And I've written

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 1>him twelve or fifteen times. It sounds like Brent wants

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to buy him. No, Brent's a mule poor right now.

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. So it's a beautiful animal. I just don't

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>know that I can get him over the hump. So

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.199
<v Speaker 1>the mules for sale, and uh, you know, make me

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 1>an offer. You know what dollar trade though that you

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>could trade like if somebody offers you something else? Would

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you trade him when you just want money for that? Oh,

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. I guess it matters what they had.

0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's just think about that for a second. What

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>trade would would be worth Banjo a new Chevy Chevy

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Silverado'll pick up? Maybe Okay, somebody mow your yard for you. Well,

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the meals for sale. So that's that's all I got

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to say about that. I got to contact you to

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>get the price. Yeah, and I'm not always that accessible.

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>They exactly how to sell things, right, he gets things

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I'm gonna sell it. And then he's like,

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting the mulet for sale, makes a public announcement.

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>There's no way to reach me to get that mule.

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>We gotta keep him exactly exactly. And this is and

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting Clay up to sell the last coon

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.680
<v Speaker 1>dog that I had. I had him sold two times. Now,

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you tell me if you think this is a reflection

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of internal character in a negative positive way. But a

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>guy was coming to my house like the next day

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to buy this dog. But I told him before he came.

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I said, buddy, I'm taking this dog coon hunting tonight.

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>And if he does good tonight. That may affect your

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 1>trip tomorrow, because I may tell you he's not for

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>sell anymore. But I'll see you tomorrow at ten am.

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>A scooter, wasn't it. Yeah? And then I go hunting,

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and what do you think Scooter did? He did a

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>good job, He did a great job. And so at

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 1>midnight I text the guy and be like, you should

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>have bought him white had the chance. And then I

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.959
<v Speaker 1>did it to the same guy twice, and then finally

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the third time, when I really wanted to sell the dog,

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like for sure, I was a little embarrassed to even

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>contact the guy, and so I didn't, And so I

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>ended up giving him to a kid over in Oklahoma

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>who's hunting him to this day, and Scooters doing real good.

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 1>How many times I tell you you gotta you gotta

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>give him, you gotta give him a shot. Hashtag save Scooter.

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I ain't even put that out there. Yeah yeah, and

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>put that on Instagram, Yeah yeah. If you ever Coo

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>nutted a tavern, no never. I mean, I've chased him,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>but I ain't been out going a dog and in

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a un you know kind of thing. We could go tonight,

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty swift footed really, I could get a raccoon in

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the headlock, but I don't know if I could take

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>them all the way down, you know kind of thing. Now,

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll go with you, take me out. Now. I've heard

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you talk about peacocks. No, but I've seen him. They

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>tear you up. They ain't friendly. I ain't friends. But

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.959
<v Speaker 1>but I drawed a picture of a fully mature peacock

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that had a squirrel in a headlock. And the squirrel

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>was so ribarrassed because I mean, uh, they're getting people's gardens.

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Folks can't catch them all day long. And here comes

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>up fully mature peacock with no thumbs. You don't know

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.959
<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, they just got wings locked him up boom,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>And that squirrel was so sad kind of thing. And

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>so I drawed that picture once because I'm a little

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>bit of an artist, you know, like we talked about that.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>But no, when I was a little kid, I've seen

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>one get ahold of a five year old like cousin

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of mine, scratched up the back of her a little back,

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>you know kind of thing. Uh, they don't want to

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>be your friends. I don't know. Have you been friends

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>with a peacock? The only time I've ever communicated with

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>one was I remember once I've been down the road

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and had my windows down. We're coming back from a

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>turkey hunt in Madison County Wildife Management Area over in.

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh what Madison County? Have you been there? Yeah? I've

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>been there? And uh, I remember a peacock sounded off

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>right at an opportune time for me to hear it

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>while I was driving. Can you do the same? Corresponded

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>with the turkey hunting story, and so, uh I yelled

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>at the peacock as we drove by. What does that

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>sound like when the peacock yell okay? And then what

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>did you do? I just went okay like that? And

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>then you guys were friends or what? Okay? You might

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>have made him mad, kind of like that guy you

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>tried to sell the dog too. Dad. Do you have

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>any questions about Tavern? Tavern's background or anything. He's got

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a good looking bicycle out there. I mean it looks

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like it was probably it's got some miles on the

0:26:56.040 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>swin in the nineteen fifty nine. I I got a

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>question for you. Gary said, okay, that's good man. Hit me,

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>So I I the turkey salmon clay just said he

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't never seen one, and I don't doesn't feel like

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a person because you gotta believe he had

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>on and people say you ain't never seen one of them?

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>How do you handle that kind of I don't know, faidback,

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 1>the cynicism, Yeah, the the pushback or the criticism. You

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of had to look at the i Q of

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the person, you know, So does that consider where it's

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>coming from? Yeah, there you go. That's a better way now.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>On the interwebs, I don't know. I don't know them.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, they'll just wing out comments like when you're

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a turkey salmon. It's like when you're gonna

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>get one. You know, That's what I'm thinking in my head.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't say that out loud. If you don't talk

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>out loud on the interwebt p P people type it out.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But so consider the source. Yeah, yeah, keep your consider

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the source, you know, keep your hair up, keep your

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>head up. Brother. Okay, I appreciated Gary. Hey, I've found

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a relevant Black Panther pop culture data point. This week.

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I was with my friend Lee and Hatty Walt down

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in down where they live, and uh, Lee points to

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>an oar a boat or I'll give you a prize

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of some sort, okay if you know the answer to

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>this question. It's a trivia question. Boat or and on

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the boat? Or is a black panther straight up black

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>panther on the wide part of the boat? Or? And

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>uh Lee clicks on the television and a movie comes

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>on and he says, I want to show you a

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 1>movie clip because I asked him about the boat, or like,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>tell me about the black panther on the ore? And

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>there is a movie and it's a scene where these

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>two guys, these two old guys, are in like a

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>public place inside of a building, and this one old

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>guy is trying to prove that this other old guy

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know his stuff, you know. And so the one

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>old guy goes, well, I bet you I can stump you.

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>What is that? What does that mean? And he points

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to an oar with a black panther and he goes

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>he the question is what is on the other side

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of the ore? And the man goes a rabbit smoking

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a pipe with me, do you know what movie this is? Okay?

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He takes the oar off the wall. There's a black

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>panther on one side. He flips it and sure enough

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a rabbit smoking a pipe. And the guy that

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't think the guy would know it was like, oh really,

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>but do you know why the rabbit smoking the pipe?

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And the guy says, the rabbit is at ease because

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>he knows he's smarter than the panther. Punchline and it

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>was a native It was some type of indigenous or

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Native American like thing. A black panther and a rabbit

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>smoking a pipe National treasure? Wrong? Was this a cartoon?

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Is a real, real, live action live action? The movie

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>is called The Edge with Anthon Hopkins. I've never seen it.

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>We actually were considered watching it. Yeah it's about a bear.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Considered watching it yesterday, but we didn't. Yeah. Black total,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>black panther reference, black panther, rabbit smoking a pipe. Just

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>why is the rabbit smoking a pipe? It's just more

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>proof that the black panthers. Exactly. I got even more

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>proof this this very week. What a better specialist that

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>you brought in here on the bicycle about what black black?

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about you? Ever? If you have

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you seen a black panther? I've never known your dad

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to lie, so you trust him? I mean, yeah, you

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>know that's I mean, I've seen things that I don't know,

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, make out the you know, in the distance

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and the shutters. Um, I ain't seen Bigfoot. I ain't

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>never seen him. I got some friends to have, but

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I ain't never seen him. But the black panther, uh,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I might have? Is it a mountain line? I don't know.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>When when you get towards us. What about her? Where

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.479
<v Speaker 1>was she? Oh, I'm not trying to. I mean, we

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>could take this outside. You look pretty word, you know,

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I am a little worm scrappy too. Did your mama

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>ever see a black panther? No mema memo. I don't

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>even like to talk about animals. Yeah, you know. I

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's because she had a pet raccoon years ago

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and she don't know what happened to it, and she

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get attached to something and then it disappears.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Although she do have a great score right now. She

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>wants to build a kennel four and she don't know

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>how to be like, I'm in charge of that, and

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>she wanted she she want to make that thing at home,

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, that's a squirrel mema. But she got

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>her own plans. So but she Ain't never told anything

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>about seeing a black panther. Really, no, she never seen that. See,

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I would say sixty five of women over the age

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of seventy that live in certain parts of the country,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll just say I have seen a black panther. Those

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>are hard hitting statistics that she throw it out. Yeah,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'm surprised that your mama doesn't fit in that

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>based on what I know about static. Yeah, six a

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy year old women in a certain region have seen Okay,

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I got it. Yeah, you didn't talk to me while

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>about black panthers, did I guarantee? Is she's holding out

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>on you? She might be. She she liked to save

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that for parties and stuff. I guess. Yeah. So the

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>rabbit the panther, pretty cool. Okay. The second black panther

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>data point was this very weak. A man sent me

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a a an actual flag of an of a a

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Native American tribe. It was the national flag. I mean,

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're sovereign nations of indigenous people inside

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>this country, and they have flags. It's like an American flag.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>They have this kind of flag, and uh, there is

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a flag that has a black panther on it. Straight

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>up black panther. But the more I dug into it,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the more I realized that they weren't necessarily saying that

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>they were black panthers. Just the graphic of it had

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to be black, m because it couldn't be. It's their

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>favorite color maybe, uh, And so it was. It was

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a cougar, not necessarily a black one,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>but it was black. You're with me? Okay? Great? Well, um,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Tavin do you need to Yeah, all, let's talk about me.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Mom made me remember I gotta get get some stuff

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>over to her on the bike. So, man, thanks for coming. Hey,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>it was good to see you all. Thanks for letting

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>me cool off in here. Yeah. Man, the out take

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it to appreciate that. Oh yeah, she'll like that. Yeah.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to drop it on the way home.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Newn Glass bottles. Boy, they do a number on the pavement,

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>don't they. I'll see what I can do, all right, y'all.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you later, all right, See Tavini, This is

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of an odd, odd podcast because I've got a

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>second guest that's gonna come in. So Tavin has gone,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but I would like to introduce you guys too, to

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>my friend Joel Barry, Hey, Clay, Joel's going. Good to

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>meet you. Man, is good to be here, Misty, Dad,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>If y'all met Joel, I just I just met Joel

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>for the first time just today, but we've we've been

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>following each other for a while on on the social

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.439
<v Speaker 1>media is such there's real people behind the social media

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>is it turns out? Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I have

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a character actually on social media with a newcomb really

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>underscore newcomb, total character, like when you're around like me,

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like totally different than the guy on the screen, right, Misty,

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, Joel, So so you are Tavin Dialer. Yeah, character,

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I do tell us just a little bit about like

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like the the character and I don't know, just give

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>us a little spiel. Yeah. I started in two thousand

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 1>six on YouTube um and kind of built an audience

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that plateaued for about a decade until TikTok and Instagram

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of found an audience in the

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>last two years, the last three months on Instagram. Um.

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I've been building uh other things on

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>social media as far as film and video production stuff,

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>but tabing is definitely one of my favorites. So Tavin

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>has like four and fifty something thousand people that follow

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>him on TikTok thirty don't want to oversell it, okay,

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>people to go there and be like, oh I thought

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it was worth twenty people stop following now. Um so

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I was. I started seeing this tavern. I

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>remember the first time that I saw Tavin on Instagram.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those ones where you were sitting perpendicut,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you weren't facing the camera, you were sitting sideways to

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the camera, and you turned your head and looked at

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the camera, had a p you can probably poetry, yes,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh and and then this guy started talking and

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just like what It took me like a

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of watches to be like, is this like what

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>is happening here? But it was such a familiar voice,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>not that I knew you, but the voice being I

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, this guy literally could be my neighbor. Yea, yes.

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And then I started watching it and I was like, uh,

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I was just like, this is pretty funny.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I sent you what I sent you a

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>message about if you remember I was. I think I

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was the first one and or I instigated our friendship

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, I appreciate that you have a

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>comedy channel that isn't crass. Remember that, just like because

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I watched a bunch of stuff and I never, like,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I kept waiting for it to be just like really crass.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Like I just thought that was gonna happen because that's

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what comedy does. That's like that, that's what comedy does.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And you didn't. And I just thought, Man, this guy,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to throw him a bone. And so I

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>reached out to you and then turns out you're not

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Tavin Dialer at all. No, I'm not Joel Berry. And

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>that can be very disappointed to some people. That can

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>make some people angry. Most people are pretty cool about it.

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever run into someone who thought who is

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>happy to see Tavin and then found out you mean

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in person or online? No? Online, Um, it's happened where

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>there's there's sincere disappointment. I ran into a lady last

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>year in a restaurant in Arkansas and she saw me,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and for some reason in my head, I'm like, I

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>don't look like having So I go into a play

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you're you're you're Tavin and but she

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was okay that I didn't, you know, I wasn't really

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>like I was a character. Was a little disappointed when

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I met you, just a little bit. I could tell.

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I could tell when you made me riding the bed

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of your truck. And when I saw what what white

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>straight teeth you have? I was like, come on, I

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 1>mean because Tavin, that's Tavin's signature, is like the rough,

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the rough teeth. And that's one thing Tavin never talks

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about his teeth because it's too obvious that he never

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>really talks about the dentist or brushing teeth because it

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 1>seems like too obvious of a joke to make. So, yeah,

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just a little fun fact. I kept getting. I

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was getting text messages the day when he premiered the

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Bargeries hadn't I'm watching always like who is this clown

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>wearing a Bargeries here? Yeah? Yeah, And I just started

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>doing the deep that I was watching everything And then yeah,

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you called me that day or so, Man,

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you got said who is this guy? Like? You gotta

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>check this out? Yeah it was funny. I didn't know Brent.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You never you never comment. Do you like him? You

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>just keep scrolling? No, Man, I like him absolutely, Bank Bank.

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>There you go. And so our kids watched Tavin. Our

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>kids are big Tavan pants. They're really really big. And

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the day he wore a bear grease hat, bear sending

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>out to the family thread. He's like, hey, y'all, bear

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like he's not real expressive, Like you say something to

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you and be like, hey, bear, we're gonna go, you know,

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like do something incredibly fun and he'll be like, okay, yeah,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, uh said, Tavin Dillard's coming to

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>our house next week. And I kind of got a

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a rise out of him. And he

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>turned his head and looked at me and he said

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>what And I said, Tavin Dillard's coming here. That sounds

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>like a window. It was a big big that's basically yeah,

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope t having made it

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>back to his me mall oh, he knows the way. Hey,

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Bradleyville Dynasty basketball. This was this one

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>out of the box for you guys. Here's here's the

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>truth of the Burglary Podcast is that most of the

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>people that are here every week don't It's not like

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you always what I'm gonna do, Like y'all

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So you are kind of y'all kind of

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>ingest this just like everybody, just like everybody else. So,

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>so did did the title? Did did any of it?

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Were you like, oh wow, where's this going? It was exciting?

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh no, it's sports. What do you think?

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 1>The only reason it I loved it. The only reason

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't surprised because I know, I know y'all. I

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>know you're all crazy about basketball. A matter of fact,

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>when Alexis and I came up a couple of months

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>or so ago, You're like, hey, y'all, come up, stay,

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but we're watching the basketball game. You come watch it,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>or you can go off and do your own thing.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know it worked out good. You know, we

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>all went out because the basketball thing was over early.

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>But but I've known you guys like basketball and the ship.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Would you anticipate by my looks that I'm as as

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>good a baller as I am? I would not. I wouldn't. Absolutely.

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish Tavin was here. I'd ask him. It's kind

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>of funny because Clay, we'll go to that a joke.

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You mean to not say what I'm gonna say, Well,

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're gonna say. I'm just can

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>we just I'm not not for every podcast, but just

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>for this one. Let's just every time Clay cuts me off,

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>let's remember that. But Clay actually will go and play basketball,

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's he is. He does run and stuff, and

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>so he can. He's got stamina. And it's kind of

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>funny because you could tell he chef loves pick up basketball,

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and so sometimes we'll go places and do pick up

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>basketball with him, and Clay will go out there and play.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a you know, scrappy. That might be

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>a nice way to say. He does not look like

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a basketball uh champion, but but he gets out there

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and he can. He can, he can stay with people

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and he can. He's real. Uh, it's kind of fun

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that I played pick up ball. I don't know you

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>should tell this story. Yeah, let's just say I was

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the old guy and there was a group of young

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>men playing ball, and I was in jeans and boots,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 1>not cowboy boots, but like hiking boots, and and let's

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>just say some things didn't go so well for them

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>for the and and they got mad. He got mad

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>at me, and I later came and apologized to him.

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>A young guy when that afternoon and we realized claim

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>smoke to thirteen year old and was at it true?

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>You talk to him? I did not talk about but

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't humble. I mean he was. It was like,

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be the old guy and you're

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna take these true little young teenage very humble. I

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>just didn't give him any slap and he got mad

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>at me for playing defense too tough. I did not.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I never breached my value system of what you apologize for.

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Then well, actually I can't really remember the details. I

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>just think you were a little bit content with yourself

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of felt I'm sorry everybody, do you

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>like point to the sky and after the store in

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>your face, not to him, but you know, like that.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But it was it was it was the defense was

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit sassy. I mean it was like,

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>come on, these are teenage So now the whole world

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>knows all of my basketball highlights that one time and

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>that one time at Clarksville. That's all. That's all there is.

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more. So like, what did you think of

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about Bradleyville podcast? That was good. I grew up in Dardnell,

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>so Clarksville is not too far from there. That's yeah,

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that's right right over there. Yeah, it's good. Well, I

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>mean it didn't surprise me because you dig into history

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, so I wasn't surprising. The sports thing

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought was cool because you can think about how

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.919
<v Speaker 1>many games are played every year, year after year after year,

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and people have records and teams and scores and whatever,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but they kind of get glossed over after a while

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's like current teams usually only care about what

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they're accomplishing. I mean I would know when I was

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a kid, it's like, what have I done? So to

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to spend time on the story, I thought it was

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>valuable and interesting. Well, it's it's of note that some

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of those records still stand to this day, like the

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>sixty four game winning streak in Missouri high school basketball.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, leon Comb said it's tied. There was a

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>school that tied it and I don't know that story,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>but that still stands. Um dad, what do you think?

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You know? I thought the Hoosiers. I just thought, you know,

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we love a good sports story. I don't care if

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're an athlete or not. I mean just everything is

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>entwined in that thing. I mean, life, just whatever, you

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>want to dig out of it. The story was awesome,

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>but all of the like hidden truths in in character

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff was really really amazing. You know how uh these

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>kids were coachable. You know, you gave the list of

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>three things, you know, I mean that that they were

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they were coachable. They were ready. Uh they you know,

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>they did what it takes to be successful, but they

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>had to have some direction. They couldn't do it in

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the fifties because they had no jim. They had no direction.

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>They get a little direction, get some backing from adults,

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and I mean they just go crazy and that you know,

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it was beyond basketball to me. Well, there were so

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>many stories. It was kind of like pick your story,

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Like this book is full. Mr leon Komb's book is

0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just full of history. It's almost like brad Leeville High

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>School yearbook. You know, there's just all these pictures. He

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>actually has pictures of the Howardville team that they beat stage. Yeah,

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and he went and interviewed those guys and he did

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a great job in in in this book. But the

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>picture story thing I chose Leon Boyd to kind of

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>highlight is the one character from the team that I

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>just had access to. He was just up there still

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>on Bradleyville. A bunch of those guys are still alive.

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>And David Combs was the hero of the nineteen sixty

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>eight team, which is Leon comes cousin. Um he's one

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.720
<v Speaker 1>that passed away. No, that was Darryl Paul that passed

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>away when but David Combs, like, there's a whole another

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>story in him. David Combs was a big time coon hunter,

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>just like uh Leon Boyd and the story of him

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>going down to Arkansas Tech because the coach was a

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 1>coon hunter, and there's pictures in the book of of

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>his coon dogs and him with his coon dogs, and

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things. I actually I'm now kicking myself

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't put this in the in the podcast,

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>But there was a quote in the book about Leon Boyd.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>It said when he went down a hill in the

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Ozarks going to his dogs, it looked like a falling

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>star shooting down off the mountain because he was so

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>fast going to his dogs. He was And that's the

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>old man that we hunted with me and Shepherd and

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>uh Man, I just I just can't get enough of

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 1>these older guys. Man Leon Boyd, the last person on

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the planet that he expected to show up to his house.

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Was somebody wanting to put him on a podcast. I mean,

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like literally, this guy, I mean he has a flip phone,

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.959
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like I don't know if he's ever listened

0:47:54.000 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 1>to a podcast, and he his humility. I said it,

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and I hope, I hope it made sense. But it's

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like it protruded from him with great force. That's the

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>way I described it. It's just like you're around him

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, this guy, it's just so humble,

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>He's so uh. I don't you know, you meet some

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>people that like, that's not the way you describe him,

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's not necessarily bad, but you would say, man,

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>he was charismatic or he was had this or did this.

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like Leo Boyd was just like that's what came

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>off of him. And a lot of folks that you've

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>talked to that that you that have been highlighted on

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 1>this thing, especially from that generation or like that, you know,

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>they take and I don't know if it's they take

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 1>solace in like the basketball. They enjoyed that so much,

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but they were they were playing on a dirt floor,

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the ground. They were shooting hoops that

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the blacksmith made. But it it wasn't picking cotton, it

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving rocks. It was something other than that that

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>they could focus on. And to this day where he's

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, Yeah, he's happy and content to talk to

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>you about that and to go coo nothing, because it

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>ain't picking cotton, it ain't moving rocks, it ain't you know.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Just they're satisfied and happy to be where they are

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in life. And it's there's a lot in that to

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>be in in in my world. So in my way

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of thinking, I'm being happy where you are. And if

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you're not happy to do something about it, you know,

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. Oh. I thought it was so entertaining. I

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.320
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it. And I listened to all but the

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>last five minutes of it with ship and so what

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he thinks. He really enjoyed it, and he we would

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>pause and talk about it and it was it was

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>really good. And I would saying, now, which one was this?

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of heard some of the stories leading

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 1>up to this, so I kind of knew, I knew

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>what what was coming, but I thought it was great.

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to tell this one story

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>that I want to come back to specialization verse being

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a generalist and kind of qualify that statement, but I

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you this story, and it just didn't fit

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>into the podcast. But so Leon Combs eight seven years old.

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like he was the main guy that carried us

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>through the podcast, and he was as sharp as attack.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of times I've interviewed a lot of

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>older people and sometimes like they don't they've never listened

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts mode, they don't understand the medium, and and

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and and man, he was just like he sit down

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>with me, and he was just like, tell me what

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>you need. And I said, well, I'm gonna do a

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>podcast on this this okay? And he and and he

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he was just like so on point and like he

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>would say, now would this story be relevant for you?

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, well not really, and He's like okay.

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>And he he was just really good. But he did

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>tell me one story that I wasn't able to use.

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But and I mean he told it for me to

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>put on the podcast if I wanted to, so I

0:50:54.400 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>don't he wouldn't mind me telling it. But he when

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he was a toddler, his father murdered his mother a

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>murder suicide and his so his mother and father passed away.

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 1>They ship him out to California for for whatever reason.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the details, but he went to California

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>as a two year old. And then his I wanted

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>some family member back in Bradleyville, Missouri. Communicates with them

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and this is uh in the would have been in

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the thirties, I think when he would have been born

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven years from right now. Um, And they the

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>family member says, will take the boy. So they send

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>him back and the mail man, the Bradleyville mail man,

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>delivers Leon Boyd to his to the man and woman

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that were related to him but would become his father

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and mother. And and he never knew until he was

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>older what happened. He just it was his dad. And

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he had like this wonderful, great childhood and and and

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and a really stable home. They were very poor, but

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they were it was a very stable home. And then

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Leon Combs goes on to become like extremely financially successful.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this man well, but I cannot. He's

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>been very let's just say he's been very, very financially

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>successful coming out of Bradleyville and he said he was

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the first kid out of Bradleyville schools that went to college,

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and he was in the military and he hitch hiked

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>out west and he he just had his wild story.

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's actually in this book right here. He gave me

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a book. I forgot about it. Um, Okay, this isn't

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>all about his life, but it's called Bradleyville, My Hometown,

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a collection of short stories and memoirs. But anyway, Leon

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Leon Combs, what a guy. Yeah, and so you know,

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.399
<v Speaker 1>these are stories that you can't even tell. I mean,

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a part of the basketball thing, but couldn't be.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Two part series, could have been? Could have been? I

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>have a basketball question. Is it common to tile a jim?

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Maybe during that time? I don't know, because it seemed like, man,

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they had to finish a halftime because they couldn't. We're slipping.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, tile that sounds yeah back there in

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that time, that's what they did. I don't know. Probably

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a financial deal. Hardwood would have been too expensive. They

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>only had fifteen hundred dollars plus donations. Yeah. Yeah. Um.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So the general idea, like basically this story introduced us

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to another story that has more to do with life,

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>which was so when when I first told Misty this story,

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>this is where Misty's fingerprints on Barry Grease in a

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. I told her about Bradleyville and these

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>guys being coon hunters, and she said, hey, you ought

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about David Epstein's book about specialists and generalist

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 1>And I said, great idea. And uh, we actually tried

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to get David Epstein on the podcast. We had a

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>very short time window. So perhaps he would, I'm certain

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>he would. He would probably come to the render with Tavin.

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Probably we had. It was a very short time window.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't make it happen, so I brought in the expert. Misty. Um,

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 1>after you heard that conversation, how did do you think

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it came out the way we wanted to? I think it.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it came out. I thought it came out great.

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Um Sheep and I were. You know, when we listen

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts together, we often stop him and give our

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>own little sub commentary. And on that part, you know,

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>because he would like to be a specialist, he I

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>think he would prefer to be, Yeah, just a mono

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>focused persona. It'd be easier for him to do that

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's an appealing proposition. It's just do the thing

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you love and nothing else. Yeah, right right, I mean

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's an appealing proposition. Yeah. So so we

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>were talking in sp Um. He actually went and brought

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 1>out another book when we started talking about this that

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>he was reading back in is that someone gave him

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>about skill development in basketball. And he said, y'all should

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about this, and he talked about this guy was

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>saying everybody should be It was like the pro specialist

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>argument that these guys make seventeen million dollars a year

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 1>because when people throw them the ball, they can get

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a shot off fast and always make it. And he

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>said this this isn't And this was a book that

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Chef was reading. I don't even know where he got

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it from. And I was like, well, because I didn't

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like the the the argument. I was like, well, I said,

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a pretty narrow You know, they've been

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I always tell the kids, they've been

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in three thousand people who played in the NBA their

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>whole life. Get a plan B. You don't have any

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>any need to think that that's genetics are against you

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.399
<v Speaker 1>on this one. We don't. We don't have the height

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to play in the NBA. So anyways, so Hip, that's

0:55:51.239 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 1>not what oh boys homeless now so so anyway, so Chip,

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but Chip said, well, he said, I don't agree with that.

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>He said the counter and he just volunteered this. He said,

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the counter argument on that is Lebron James gets paid,

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and he somehow new Lebron James salary off the top

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of his head because he can get shots off. He

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>could do this, he could do that, he could and

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>he named all the things that Lebron James does on

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and off the court, and it's like a good thing

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in Chip, I mean, at least, I don't think that

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 1>success is really should be quantified in terms of the

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars that you make. But I was, I

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.959
<v Speaker 1>was grateful. He was thinking, yeah, well, and I don't

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Speaker 1>want to If if I can go back and redo

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, I would probably say that I think specializing

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is great. I mean, we need experts. There are things

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that I have specialized in that have you know, made

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>me an expert in the same quote unquote at some level.

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>And all. The only point I was making is that

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:08.439
<v Speaker 1>sometimes these other things can make you even better then

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.399
<v Speaker 1>if you had just specialized in it. Do you see

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I think yeah. I think

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>what we would say is that it's okay to have

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a thing you're really good at like it's and and

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>probably there should be something in everyone's life that they

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>spent ten thousand hours on and and learn and get

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to get to do. But we should all be complex

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 1>people like That's I think that's the most important thing

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>on our on our end, is that a lot of

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 1>times you are a specialist at the cost of all

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>these other things. Where specialization does it just speak to

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>how you spend your time, but it speaks to who

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you are. You are this thing and what we want

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to communicate to our kids is you are not a

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball player. You are not a smart person. You are

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>not a musician. You are first and foremost a human being,

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual being, and someone that has a lot of

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>complexity to them. Put those as you like, on that backdrop.

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't let those things be the backdrop for everything else.

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was clear. That was a good one.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not what your arts who you are. I noticed

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in uh in my career that you had several types

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of highly successful people far above where I ever accomplished.

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And some of them were great c p A s

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that a guy kind of like me that was a

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>generalist could use. And you pull this guy in and

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you call him off to the side, and you go, hey, man,

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>tell me what to do. You know, well, this guy

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is so good he ends up like owning the world.

0:58:56.560 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>But the guy that is a generalist hires people like

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that and pulls them in. He's got he's got all

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>these specialists around him, and in a couple of them

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 1>are just so sharp that all of a sudden they

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>get up here and they kind of become generalists. But

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a personality thing. The crazy kid in college ends

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>up with that personality where where he can sell, he

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>can communicate, and and so you know you need both kinds.

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what you said. Do you think I relayed your

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>philosophy on bringing us up well on the podcast and

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a few sentence I talked about it, well, I thought so.

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was pretty clear. One thing that was

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>real clear to me, though, was the spousal abuse. Still,

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you came up with a new way for this hashtag,

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>let misty speak. It's almost in reverse. I could not

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>believe you did this man? What did juju? Here's oh no,

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>what did I do? Okay? Here, here's what you did.

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>You're you're asking, You're asking Missy a question, and the

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:16.600
<v Speaker 1>question is why to why to rule communities like basketball

1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>so much? But before she had a chance to answer,

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you gave answer. You gave you gave like a tent

1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 1>page dissertation on it. So by the time Missy had it,

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was real polite, and she you know,

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>she took her ten seconds and tried to make not

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 1>make you look like an abuser. And she didn't say,

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 1>remember I'm the one that told you all that stuff

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you just said earlier. Yeah, yeah. And what made it

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:50.360
<v Speaker 1>even worse once she so politely repeated a few of

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the things that you had already said because there was

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:58.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing else to say, said that you totally hate hey, hey,

1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you totally award her answer and immediately said, I wonder

1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 1>how many kids out there if killed bear and and

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.919
<v Speaker 1>shot a deer with But I mean, and I mean

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>just totally this could be, this could be taken to court.

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:21.959
<v Speaker 1>I just feel vindicated today and this is we told

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you that on my shoulder. But it was good. You

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>have an awesome spouse. You have an awesome spouse. Remember

1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:35.919
<v Speaker 1>that crow Tabin was talking about has he taste? Yeah?

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:42.720
<v Speaker 1>My fit? Well I did it another time, and this

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>was I mean, I'm aware of what's happening here. Um

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:50.040
<v Speaker 1>there was another time and it just was the in it.

1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask miss the question, but I had

1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to put in something that that I had said. First.

1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I talked for a real long time and then she

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.920
<v Speaker 1>got to talk. Do you know what part I'm talking about?

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Maybe I could get away with that again.

1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:08.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, the truth is we all do that all

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean, it's just what we asked a question,

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we already know the answer, we want to tell him

1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:17.000
<v Speaker 1>what we think about it, and you just kind of

1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but we all do exactly what you

1:02:22.880 --> 1:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>did at times. But anyway, I actually I did pick

1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:29.120
<v Speaker 1>up on that while he's sticking about because I was

1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.440
<v Speaker 1>there too. And I also what Clay cut out is

1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:33.640
<v Speaker 1>when I looked at him when he asked me that question,

1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, you just answered it. She actually did. And

1:02:38.560 --> 1:02:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not defending myself, but um, I did answer the

1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:45.160
<v Speaker 1>question before she got a time to starry, and she said,

1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what we just said it and then she went on,

1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 1>so I had to cut it out. When you're building

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and editing a podcast and the burger shrender is supposed

1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to be behind the scenes of burgers, there's sometimes just

1:02:56.400 --> 1:03:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a quantity of information that has to be there, and

1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that was all I had. It was real hard to

1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:05.600
<v Speaker 1>get that audio because we're sitting there with parents and

1:03:05.760 --> 1:03:08.800
<v Speaker 1>people and they we're in a basketball game, and it's like,

1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I just had this recorder and I pulled out and

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I just do it real quick, and I knew what

1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I needed to be said, and I wanted to include

1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Mr In because I had told him what needed to

1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:25.800
<v Speaker 1>be said earlier, like on this exact topic, not on

1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, but I wish were here. It worked well,

1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Um what was uh? I was gonna ask one of

1:03:40.040 --> 1:03:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you what what was the most Well, Okay, I'll tell

1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you what my favorite part was. Every single time that

1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I have listened to that basketball game, I don't even

1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't like, I really wouldn't think that, like the

1:03:56.160 --> 1:04:00.240
<v Speaker 1>recording of an old basketball game, would the four overtimes? Yeah,

1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I would like get me emotionally stirred. I was listening

1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to it in my truck and like got cold chills,

1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>which is a rare thing for me. But I think

1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:15.240
<v Speaker 1>just getting inside of this story and meeting these people

1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and going to Bradleyville, you're kind of immersed into it.

1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And you meet Leon Boyd and you just see his life,

1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just the underdog nature of it. I mean, but when

1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that old radio da DA here in Columbia, Missouri, the

1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Bill Eagles is playing the Howard Bill Hawks, and

1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:37.320
<v Speaker 1>then you know for overtimes true, I mean, it just

1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:39.800
<v Speaker 1>was a neat It was so cool and and and

1:04:39.920 --> 1:04:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I discovered that this this audio recording was even available

1:04:44.560 --> 1:04:47.160
<v Speaker 1>by Leon comes I didn't realize it, but the CD

1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:51.200
<v Speaker 1>was in the back cover of the book and he said,

1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:53.520
<v Speaker 1>he said, yeah, you can use it, put it on there,

1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and I just thought it was in neat. Did y'all

1:04:55.720 --> 1:05:00.640
<v Speaker 1>think that was cool? You know? One thing I wanted

1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to know was how tall is this Combs guy? And

1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what did they have any big people on that?

1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:09.640
<v Speaker 1>The three there was there were three six, three guys

1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and then that's pretty good they but see they fouled

1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:18.120
<v Speaker 1>out two guys that were six six and that was

1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:21.200
<v Speaker 1>part of their strategy. So if they hadn't have done that,

1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean their strategy worked, they're playing work and uh,

1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's pretty incredible, pretty incredible bradley

1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Ville Eagles. So what was what was the most what

1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was the favorite part of the podcast? Print Like, was

1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:40.120
<v Speaker 1>there one spot that you're like that was cool? My

1:05:40.320 --> 1:05:45.800
<v Speaker 1>favorite part was Ship ye at the end of course

1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:48.240
<v Speaker 1>on known Ship the majority of his life. And I

1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:51.920
<v Speaker 1>know when he asked you the question, are we are

1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:54.360
<v Speaker 1>we gonna go back and see this guy? Are we

1:05:54.440 --> 1:05:57.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be friends? You know, I think he took

1:05:57.840 --> 1:05:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of value and I know it a lot

1:05:59.720 --> 1:06:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of it was just because of the basketball thing. I

1:06:02.000 --> 1:06:04.960
<v Speaker 1>know that, But I know that kid, and I know

1:06:05.080 --> 1:06:07.040
<v Speaker 1>he had a good time when y'all went hunting up there,

1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and I and he's a he's a smart lad, And

1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he was soaking up a lot of things

1:06:13.480 --> 1:06:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and seeing a lot of potential and a lot of

1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:19.000
<v Speaker 1>fun and good times that he could have being in

1:06:19.320 --> 1:06:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the presence of that guy. So that my favorite part

1:06:21.800 --> 1:06:26.880
<v Speaker 1>was it was old Ship soaking it in and really

1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:30.240
<v Speaker 1>digging what was going on up there beyond basketball and

1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:33.360
<v Speaker 1>something that happened before is dad it was even born.

1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:39.880
<v Speaker 1>My chefs take on it there because It actually surprised me,

1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:42.439
<v Speaker 1>and I tried to say it in a diplomatic way,

1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:45.560
<v Speaker 1>like chef here that part, because I kind of knew

1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it was coming. Ship. The chef is not pumped about

1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:51.160
<v Speaker 1>coon hunting, like I've drugged a kid around his whole life.

1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Like Misty sent a picture on our family tex saread

1:06:53.960 --> 1:06:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to day of of a picture of all the kids

1:06:56.960 --> 1:06:59.800
<v Speaker 1>with the dogs, and I mean hips like that tall,

1:07:00.280 --> 1:07:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's like it's not always fun to

1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:07.160
<v Speaker 1>be the youngest child. I mean, no telling how many

1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:10.520
<v Speaker 1>coon trees he's been to. Nope, telling how many coons

1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he's carried out of the woods on his back, you know,

1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:15.360
<v Speaker 1>carrying him by the hind leg, strode over his shoulder.

1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just not his thing. Like he's now fourteen, and

1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:24.320
<v Speaker 1>he will go with me occasionally just because I'm like,

1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:27.320
<v Speaker 1>come on, Chip, let's go, and he'll he'll come. He's

1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:32.800
<v Speaker 1>your clay. Yeah, he'll play golf. Actually I don't think

1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:35.919
<v Speaker 1>he will. He's had the opportunity recently and he's he's

1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:40.200
<v Speaker 1>just so he is truly very and I think that's

1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:42.440
<v Speaker 1>part of what we've really challenged hip to be is

1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like the you know, at different seasons of your

1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:48.320
<v Speaker 1>kid's life, you kind of focus in on different aspects

1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of their character that you you want to build. And

1:07:51.360 --> 1:07:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that's our agreement with him because we actually we are

1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:58.120
<v Speaker 1>letting hip specialize more than we've ever let him specialize before.

1:07:58.480 --> 1:08:01.880
<v Speaker 1>And we've been real slow that I mean we have really,

1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are people who truly believe that we

1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:08.840
<v Speaker 1>have made mistakes that we did not. They would be

1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>like athletic advisors type people like coaches and other people

1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that we haven't done the like given him all the

1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:20.800
<v Speaker 1>opportunities he needs to be developed at age fourteen, and

1:08:21.160 --> 1:08:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm our thing with him is that, hey, we

1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:25.160
<v Speaker 1>actually do feel like this is a season where we

1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:27.320
<v Speaker 1>can let you expand a little bit. You're going into

1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:30.400
<v Speaker 1>high school. He does have good character, he has you know,

1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he's outgrown the context that he's been in. I had

1:08:35.120 --> 1:08:37.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody asked me what our philosophy was with our kids,

1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:40.599
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't want the podcast to be all about Chap.

1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was a neat I just wanted

1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:45.479
<v Speaker 1>some complexity to the story. And and that's why I

1:08:45.600 --> 1:08:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was interested in the story because we love basketball, and

1:08:48.120 --> 1:08:51.639
<v Speaker 1>but Shepherd has ever since he was two years old,

1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:55.240
<v Speaker 1>love basketball and has really dedicated himself to it all

1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.519
<v Speaker 1>these years. They went through the phase of you know,

1:08:57.600 --> 1:08:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to play in the n b A and

1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:03.160
<v Speaker 1>we're like, no, you're not. This is never gonna happen.

1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And basically nothing like shooting the kids drinker okay quickly,

1:09:13.120 --> 1:09:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the boys all, it's a joke in our family because

1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:18.240
<v Speaker 1>we one time we watched the NBA draft Molik Monk

1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:20.519
<v Speaker 1>was getting and by the way, the night that Malik

1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Monk from Arkansas got drafted, the announcer on ESPN said, now,

1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that guy shot more squirrels than anybody else on the

1:09:27.640 --> 1:09:29.960
<v Speaker 1>square to night, and I was like, I was crying.

1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I was so proud. That's right, Arkansas are but blake

1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:39.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're hearing this brother, come on to the bar,

1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's what he talked about, being out in the

1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Delta with his grandpa shooting hunting squirrels. But anyway, so

1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:50.799
<v Speaker 1>he uh, the night he got drafted, we were watching

1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and the boys were just enjoying listen to all these

1:09:53.760 --> 1:09:55.960
<v Speaker 1>little speeches that these guys were given about their mama

1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and how you know she believed in when no one

1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:00.600
<v Speaker 1>else did, and those about boys said man, if we

1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:03.320
<v Speaker 1>ever get drafted, we're gonna stand up and say, our

1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.920
<v Speaker 1>mom told us for a very young age, genetics are

1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:11.479
<v Speaker 1>against you. There's whatever to this one. She faithfully took

1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:14.960
<v Speaker 1>us to practices, faithfully cheered, and she did not believe.

1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I haven't. Shepherd was so wanted

1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to be so focused on basketball that for years we

1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:34.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of I never emphasized it. I never validated

1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:38.880
<v Speaker 1>him that much, just kind of just like, whatever, basketball

1:10:38.960 --> 1:10:41.920
<v Speaker 1>is not that important, and we pushed him away from it,

1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and he stuck with it. And then basically a year

1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:47.720
<v Speaker 1>ago at the time when if they're really going to

1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:51.240
<v Speaker 1>have a future in basketball, are gonna go for it,

1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:54.479
<v Speaker 1>it's time to get behind him. And so we actually

1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:58.040
<v Speaker 1>had a family meeting where we sat down and we said, Shepherd,

1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you have all these years stayed dedicated to basketball. And

1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could go through all the stuff he does.

1:11:05.479 --> 1:11:07.840
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty incredible the amount of discipline that he has

1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and how much he loves it. And I said, you

1:11:10.200 --> 1:11:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have become what we wanted you to become, because the

1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:15.280
<v Speaker 1>last thing we wanted Joel was to have a kid

1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that was like a superstar ball hog, like like arrogant,

1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:22.960
<v Speaker 1>little punk kid that's a star basketball player. We've all

1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:25.599
<v Speaker 1>seen him. We didn't want that who was a star

1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:29.400
<v Speaker 1>basketball player but had no moral character and get into

1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:33.160
<v Speaker 1>some environment and he can't. Yeah, it's like we didn't

1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:36.000
<v Speaker 1>want him. His identity to be I am a star

1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.800
<v Speaker 1>basketball player who also has the age limit on when that,

1:11:40.160 --> 1:11:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean that the identity only lasts so long. And

1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:46.360
<v Speaker 1>so as I found out after my night and Clark

1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:53.040
<v Speaker 1>stalls later, let's probably make a podcast about that one day.

1:11:54.600 --> 1:12:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So the the so chep was just disciplined chips. The

1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:03.840
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing we're working on Chip right now inside of

1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:06.719
<v Speaker 1>basketball and the levels he's playing in is to shoot

1:12:06.800 --> 1:12:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it rather than pass it like he we we taught

1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:11.519
<v Speaker 1>him like, don't be a ball hog. If you score

1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:13.800
<v Speaker 1>all the points and nobody else scores points, that's bad.

1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Like we we we really trained him a certain way

1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of thinking about sports, and it's become ingrained in him

1:12:20.280 --> 1:12:23.599
<v Speaker 1>and it's become his default. And then this year we said, hey,

1:12:28.240 --> 1:12:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you pass the test. Now we're gonna get behind you

1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk about a formal declaration of intent

1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:40.439
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get behind you and say okay,

1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:45.080
<v Speaker 1>now we're gonna let you specialize. So if I could

1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:48.479
<v Speaker 1>say it that way, and and so we we he

1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:53.320
<v Speaker 1>tried out for a team. He's on that team. I mean,

1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.519
<v Speaker 1>we told him we're gonna get behind you, we're gonna

1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:57.360
<v Speaker 1>support you, We're gonna let you try out for some

1:12:57.800 --> 1:12:59.880
<v Speaker 1>some teams that were bigger than the context that he

1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was in at that time. But our deal with him

1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was that as a high schooler, he's got the internal

1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:10.280
<v Speaker 1>maturity to now say I have to be responsible for

1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>my own character. And the phrase we gave him his

1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:15.880
<v Speaker 1>pan optic management. We want him to be complex, not simple.

1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And so he's got there's there's bargains, this is a deal,

1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and and we don't want him to have one muscle

1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that's really strong and the rest of his body that's

1:13:24.000 --> 1:13:26.160
<v Speaker 1>weak and not able to do anything. So I want

1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:28.519
<v Speaker 1>his room clean, I want him to do the tours.

1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I want him to have good grades in school. Chep

1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is real smart and he should he should have a

1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:38.960
<v Speaker 1>plan B. I'm not sure where the high gene that

1:13:39.000 --> 1:13:40.519
<v Speaker 1>he got is gonna take them. And even if it

1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:42.280
<v Speaker 1>did take them to places, I would want him to

1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:44.479
<v Speaker 1>have character when he got there and be able to

1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:47.800
<v Speaker 1>be complex, be well read, be educated, do those things.

1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I meant on the podcast when

1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I spent said, we do sports, but we do it

1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on our terms. I don't want it to sound like

1:13:55.920 --> 1:14:00.479
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to push our kids away from specialization. Because

1:14:01.400 --> 1:14:03.960
<v Speaker 1>specialization can be good, but you just need more and

1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it's helpful to have more. And so that's why, like

1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about Shepard not liking coon hunting so much,

1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:13.479
<v Speaker 1>That's why when we came away from Leon Boyd's house,

1:14:14.560 --> 1:14:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Shepherd instigated that conversation. There was no Mike's going like

1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the last thing he thought was I was gonna talk

1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.200
<v Speaker 1>about what he was saying to me. I mean, we're

1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:26.920
<v Speaker 1>pulling out of the driveway and he goes dead. Are

1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you gonna be friends with Mr? Leon? Like you are? James?

1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And I just looked at him and I was like

1:14:32.960 --> 1:14:34.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what he was asking. And I

1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:38.559
<v Speaker 1>just gave him a real practical answer. I said, I mean,

1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, Chep, I just met Mr Leon. I don't

1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. He's a very nice man. We had a

1:14:43.840 --> 1:14:45.559
<v Speaker 1>great time with him. He lives in a long ways

1:14:45.680 --> 1:14:48.360
<v Speaker 1>from us. I mean, I don't know that I'm gonna

1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:50.519
<v Speaker 1>be able to come back over here that much. And

1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.439
<v Speaker 1>he like, he said, Dad, I don't think it's right

1:14:53.640 --> 1:14:55.320
<v Speaker 1>for you just to have him on your podcasts and

1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:58.120
<v Speaker 1>us us never come back over here. And I said,

1:14:58.160 --> 1:14:59.519
<v Speaker 1>do you want to come back over here? And this

1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is a boy who's not pumped about coon hunting and

1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he said yeah, and he I love that because Leon

1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Boyd is just the kind of guy that you would

1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:15.800
<v Speaker 1>want your son to look up to. And Chef liked

1:15:15.840 --> 1:15:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it that he was a ball player. But it's just

1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I could tell Chef just like this old man and

1:15:21.080 --> 1:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that's good. Yeah. I liked it, like Leon Boyd has character.

1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Did did you? I didn't hear it in the podcast,

1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:29.560
<v Speaker 1>but Leon Boyd played basketball on organized basketball till he

1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:33.160
<v Speaker 1>was seventy and he got a shoulder injury coon hunting

1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and had to stop. That's pretty cool, pretty good way

1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:41.519
<v Speaker 1>to go out and play the glory. Oh, talking about

1:15:42.600 --> 1:15:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a kid specializing. I hired a guy one time to

1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:50.439
<v Speaker 1>be a banker out of college for one reason. On

1:15:50.640 --> 1:15:55.519
<v Speaker 1>his resume he was the top three point shooter at

1:15:55.640 --> 1:16:00.599
<v Speaker 1>his college. And and really it may be I didn't

1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:04.200
<v Speaker 1>have the original thought, but the guy and myself that

1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we're hiring him the guy he pointed out, anybody that

1:16:13.320 --> 1:16:18.479
<v Speaker 1>is the top three point shooter in their conference in college,

1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a top banker or whatever field they

1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:29.000
<v Speaker 1>get into. And sure enough, this guy was a whiz

1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:33.320
<v Speaker 1>bank And I mean he's just Scott rocketed. Yeah, he

1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:37.519
<v Speaker 1>actually he actually got out of banking. And I would

1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:39.840
<v Speaker 1>just bet that he's really really done well. I know

1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:41.960
<v Speaker 1>when I checked on him ten fifteen years ago, he

1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:48.200
<v Speaker 1>had done really well. Well. It's discipline. You know. If

1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lucy goosey guy and I don't finish projects

1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and I just monkey around, I won't be the same

1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:56.400
<v Speaker 1>way when I go to work for you. But if

1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:59.920
<v Speaker 1>if I'm I got my act together and I'm shooting

1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a thousand shots a day, I'm going to shoot a

1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:09.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand shots for you when I go to work for you. So,

1:17:10.439 --> 1:17:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and I mean that there's a lot to be said. Now,

1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:16.360
<v Speaker 1>if that's all he can do is shoot, I mean you,

1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:19.920
<v Speaker 1>as you're moving through the shooting process, you've got to

1:17:20.080 --> 1:17:25.640
<v Speaker 1>develop a personality where people like you. You can communicate,

1:17:25.800 --> 1:17:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you can sell. Devin knows that. So I think what

1:17:31.960 --> 1:17:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about two is drive and I think that's

1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing about with sports, with hunting, with whatever you've

1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:40.280
<v Speaker 1>got your kids interested in. I do think it's important

1:17:40.280 --> 1:17:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to let them have things they're passionate about because it

1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:46.360
<v Speaker 1>produces that that drive. You can't it's hard. I mean,

1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:48.439
<v Speaker 1>there's some things, there's some subjects in school that we

1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:50.800
<v Speaker 1>just have to make our kids work hard at when

1:17:50.880 --> 1:17:53.639
<v Speaker 1>you're when your child is motivated towards something, I think,

1:17:53.920 --> 1:17:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I love about sports is that it

1:17:56.360 --> 1:17:58.880
<v Speaker 1>is a place to really develop character. And it's the

1:17:58.920 --> 1:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>same thing I like about hunting, like when Bear went

1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:04.320
<v Speaker 1>hunting last year. To me, it doesn't really matter as

1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.080
<v Speaker 1>long as it's you know, wholesome stuff, what they're into.

1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:10.040
<v Speaker 1>It's good too. It's good to let kids have passions.

1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:12.439
<v Speaker 1>It's good to let them care about something because that

1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:15.160
<v Speaker 1>drive produces things in them because they want to do it.

1:18:15.600 --> 1:18:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And so that drive helps them learn discipline, learns, how

1:18:19.400 --> 1:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to take defeat, learn how to you learn how to

1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:24.040
<v Speaker 1>take all the different challenges that come into stuff. So

1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it's good to My concern with the current generation would

1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:30.160
<v Speaker 1>be that there's a lot of kids out there that

1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:33.800
<v Speaker 1>don't really have drive for much at all, and so

1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good too. It's good to let them go

1:18:36.080 --> 1:18:39.439
<v Speaker 1>find go find drive and to identify things that would

1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:44.439
<v Speaker 1>distract you from finding things you're passionate about and limiting

1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:50.400
<v Speaker 1>those things. And even in losing. Uh, Leon Combs want

1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:54.400
<v Speaker 1>two games in four years. But but he went on

1:18:54.560 --> 1:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to be successful because you know, he stayed with it

1:18:57.080 --> 1:18:59.519
<v Speaker 1>for four years. And in my one of my favorite

1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:03.479
<v Speaker 1>part was when he said, you know, we got beat

1:19:03.560 --> 1:19:07.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty four to six, but he couldn't wait to get

1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to the next game. And you ask, I wonder why

1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it's so he could bounce a basketball on a hardwood floor. Yeah,

1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:20.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, it's like, you know, if you've been

1:19:20.640 --> 1:19:22.519
<v Speaker 1>in a box your whole life and you get to

1:19:22.560 --> 1:19:25.479
<v Speaker 1>look at every now, man, I mean that looking at Yeah,

1:19:25.560 --> 1:19:27.240
<v Speaker 1>get slapped in the face when you look out, you

1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:30.800
<v Speaker 1>look out, Yeah, yeah, I mean you know. So anyway, yeah,

1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that that was interesting. One thing, Leon Combs, this is

1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:40.160
<v Speaker 1>totally off the off the topic of sports. Leon Combs,

1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:42.880
<v Speaker 1>he told me when he went out into life, he

1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:46.320
<v Speaker 1>lived this very isolated rural life in the Ozarks. And

1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>he said that old people, the old timers used to

1:19:49.200 --> 1:19:52.120
<v Speaker 1>do what they call saucer coffee Yeah, have you ever

1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>heard of that? Yeah, Oscar Newcam did that. No way'll

1:19:55.560 --> 1:19:58.040
<v Speaker 1>tell us what. Well, I don't know, I've never heard

1:19:58.080 --> 1:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of it. Talked is like a but he would just

1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>take his coffee and plut it in a saucer and

1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>drink it. I have a saucer to cool it off.

1:20:05.920 --> 1:20:10.160
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly Yeah, he's Mr. Leon Boyd said that when

1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>he went I think he went out to California when

1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:16.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like nineteen or something and he saucered his

1:20:16.360 --> 1:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>coffee and he said that people made fun of him.

1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, what we get made fun of coffee?

1:20:23.960 --> 1:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And he said he said, yeah, you get a cup

1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of coffee, hot coffee, and you pour it into a

1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>saucer so that it has the surface areas spread out

1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and you can blow, blow and saucer saucer and blow,

1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you drink it out of the saucer like

1:20:39.400 --> 1:20:45.639
<v Speaker 1>a little plate. Hey Joel, Yeah, tell us, Uh, tell

1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>us just a little bit about sweet Tea. Films where

1:20:49.280 --> 1:20:51.599
<v Speaker 1>people can find Tavin. I'm sure he's back with Meme

1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>all by now for Tavin Dillar podcast. They can find that,

1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:58.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, wherever they listen to podcast. Uh. Sweet Tea

1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Films or Tavin Dellar dot com both the same things. UM,

1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's where you can find all the work I'm

1:21:05.120 --> 1:21:07.519
<v Speaker 1>up to and the stuff that I'm doing. UM. I

1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>will say kind of what we've been talking about with

1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you gotta wrap up, but UM, I've

1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>talked to a lot of college students over the years

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>about their craft because a lot of people want to

1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:20.240
<v Speaker 1>make it in film. And one of the things I've repeated,

1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>which is true for anything in life. What we've been

1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:23.559
<v Speaker 1>talking about is that one of the things I say

1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:27.400
<v Speaker 1>often is you've got to Uh. First of all, you

1:21:27.479 --> 1:21:30.240
<v Speaker 1>can't just have a paper resume. Your portfolio matters in

1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the arts, which means if you say I directed a film,

1:21:33.439 --> 1:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it could have been a horrible film. But if you

1:21:35.000 --> 1:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>show someone in your film, they can say, Okay, you've

1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>done it. I said, so, first of all, your portfolio

1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:40.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to exist, like you need to be out there

1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>doing the work before you get hired anywhere. The other

1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:46.400
<v Speaker 1>one is beyond time and be easy to work with,

1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.479
<v Speaker 1>and that's true for anything, but that's those disciplines that

1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:54.080
<v Speaker 1>show up over time. And then it really is how

1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you relate to people. I think Gary mentioned the coach's

1:21:57.160 --> 1:21:59.400
<v Speaker 1>approach and how the players like, no, he wasn't mean,

1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:01.640
<v Speaker 1>he didn't yell, he didn't show up and screen, but

1:22:01.840 --> 1:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he worked hard. But there's there's actually a way to communicate.

1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:08.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think some people buy into well, uh, that's great,

1:22:08.600 --> 1:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>but I can get stuff done this way. But over

1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the long haul, if we're mistreating people and getting good results.

1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Over the long haul, you look back and there there's

1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of damage that's been done that could have

1:22:18.680 --> 1:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>been avoided. You actually could have had a bigger impact

1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>if you kind of done it kindly or more more more,

1:22:26.400 --> 1:22:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess right in a way. So, um, that's something

1:22:30.200 --> 1:22:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that I was thinking through about, you know, this this

1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:36.240
<v Speaker 1>specific episode that you did, and then also just approaching

1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>kids and careers in general. It's like, it's true those

1:22:39.840 --> 1:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>things never got a style. Yeah, you know they work

1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in every field. Be easy to work with. Yeah, any

1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>field you go in, that's going to be helpful. Yeah.

1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>To that point, we were well, I won't say I

1:22:54.040 --> 1:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>was going to slander Eyes an NBA player. Another another

1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:01.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation that Ship and I had recently about probably one

1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:04.839
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest NBA players that's alive today is basically

1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:10.519
<v Speaker 1>untreatable because he's so stinking hard to work with. We

1:23:10.600 --> 1:23:13.679
<v Speaker 1>won't mention his name. Yeah. Yeah, it's just been interesting

1:23:14.640 --> 1:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's been interesting to watch this trade season because

1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>there's some pretty amazing players out there and no one

1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>wants them. You know, the the points that you're making there,

1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you had these kids that were just hungry. I mean,

1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:32.479
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that anymore. You had a coach that

1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that was that was complied and loving and kind, and

1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the reason he could do that. You got all these

1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>players just going yes or yes or yes sir, okay, okay,

1:23:41.280 --> 1:23:44.679
<v Speaker 1>I get to run ten miles today, all right, you know, yeah,

1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen. I mean, that was one time in

1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the last fifty years that's probably happened. And they won

1:23:53.040 --> 1:23:56.719
<v Speaker 1>state championships and and so it's just kind of proof

1:23:56.920 --> 1:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that there's more to the recipe than just discipline. This.

1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a a bunch of stuff thrown into

1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>pot and it's tough to get it. And this day

1:24:07.200 --> 1:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and time, these kids, you know that sometimes they're called

1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:14.120
<v Speaker 1>snowflakes and things. You know, I think I'm probably an

1:24:14.160 --> 1:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>old snowflake, but I mean, you know, it's just our

1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>society were so impressionable. I mean, you can just tell

1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>a kid he's great, he thinks he's great, and telling

1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>him he's terrible, he thinks he's terrible. It's it's kind

1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of dangerous really, And we're telling our kids a bunch

1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of stuff today that you know, might not allow them

1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to win a state championship. What if there was just

1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:42.320
<v Speaker 1>no state What if they finally got down to the

1:24:42.439 --> 1:24:45.479
<v Speaker 1>final game and they were just like, no, we can't

1:24:45.479 --> 1:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>do this. Everybody gets a trophy, yeah, or everybody gets

1:24:48.720 --> 1:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>a trophy. They're like, no state championship game, you don't

1:24:51.680 --> 1:25:01.360
<v Speaker 1>deserve it. Um, get back into reality. Well, great podcast, Joel.

1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that anything else you want to tell us before

1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:05.640
<v Speaker 1>we leave? I think I've told you everything. I know.

1:25:06.640 --> 1:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I know everything in my head right check out check

1:25:11.280 --> 1:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out Tavin Tavin Dillard on TikTok and Instagram. All you

1:25:15.240 --> 1:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>cool young people like me that are on TikTok all

1:25:17.720 --> 1:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>these old other old people like everybody in this room,

1:25:21.479 --> 1:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>every everybody in this room except for me. Joel Berry

1:25:24.479 --> 1:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>is not on tiktoktok a correction, what you mean owned

1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>TikTok okay, but I got rid of it once I

1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>found out what the Chinese are doing to us. I mean, I,

1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, first first thing on TikTok, first thing on TikTok,

1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I had to go through and clean it up, you know,

1:25:47.200 --> 1:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was terrible. And so I went through and said,

1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested, not interested, right right, you know, my

1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>cardinal side was going, what but you know, you see

1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>clean it up and it's really really good. But then

1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I find out that they're checking on me, you know.

1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I don't know, I tend to be

1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>because we used to hear that three or four years

1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:15.479
<v Speaker 1>ago and we just kind of blew it off, and

1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>now that's coming up again. Well, I think it, just

1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I think that TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, all

1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.519
<v Speaker 1>of them are checking on us. I mean, everybody's going, yeah,

1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm so self righteous about it

1:26:26.640 --> 1:26:31.519
<v Speaker 1>with TikTok, but it also it runs your battery China,

1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>battery management, yeah, battery management. I think that it's a

1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>real testament to how cool Clay is that he's on TikTok,

1:26:37.920 --> 1:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>because he refers to it as the talk. Wow, that's

1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that's even cool. And I'm not even sure that anyone

1:26:43.320 --> 1:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>else refers to it as the talk but when you

1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>put the in front of it, yeah, the Walmarts. Yeah,

1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>exam that our kids, our kids laugh at because he

1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:57.599
<v Speaker 1>listens when he doesn't really spend a ton of time

1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not on Instagram or TikTok or any thing.

1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>But when he does, he watches the rule reels all

1:27:04.720 --> 1:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the way through at full volume. And apparently that's not

1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>cool because when he does it, all of our kids

1:27:09.960 --> 1:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>will look at each other and I mean he puts

1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it at and Clay can't hear great, So I mean

1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:19.519
<v Speaker 1>the volume is like super and so he's watching it

1:27:19.600 --> 1:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's like blaring, and we're all just watching him

1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like this is not how you watch, it's not how

1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>you do this. And he's just sitting over there laughing,

1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's kind of funny. It's it's all the kids.

1:27:30.760 --> 1:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty entertaining. Really, it's very entertaining. The one that

1:27:36.120 --> 1:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you're in. The lady that goes down and opens up

1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the rooster's cage every morning, she's got the robo and

1:27:43.680 --> 1:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>she's looking to see if the cameras going. It's really

1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>funny that I'm sure, Yeah it was me. Yeah, every day.

1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:53.639
<v Speaker 1>It is like a battle, just you have to work

1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself up to get in there. Mm hmm. Well, Gary

1:27:58.160 --> 1:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and Misty has slide track at the end of the

1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>agrees for him to wrap up. It's great to see everyone, Joel,

1:28:03.439 --> 1:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming, thanks for having really appreciate it. Yeah,

1:28:06.040 --> 1:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here. Tavin Dillard check him out

1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Sweet Tea Films, and uh yeah, we'll see you next

1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:20.559
<v Speaker 1>week on the Real Beargrease Podcast. I know I need

1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to know what I ran to win.