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Speaker 1: My name is Clay and Nukeleman. This is a production

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Speaker 1: of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render,

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Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f

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Speaker 1: HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear

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Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore.

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Speaker 1: There's there's three things that I check my phone for

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Speaker 1: emergencies at work, and there's only a handful of people

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Speaker 1: that consume me. Those our kids, you know, getting stitches

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Speaker 1: of my life is devoted to chaper chauffeuring and organizing

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Speaker 1: show first for our children. Um. And then the third

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Speaker 1: thing that would be an I'd look at my phone

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Speaker 1: for would be to fact check. Clay feel like your

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Speaker 1: job here is to fact check, not to fact check you.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you'll be like, I don't know, look that

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Speaker 1: up and I'll just do it right then and then

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Speaker 1: And then in that way, hey, let me let me

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Speaker 1: very day. Story, this happened this very and this this

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Speaker 1: is going to set up other stories inside this podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's important that you pay attention. You may not

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Speaker 1: be able to tell. But I've kind of been the

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Speaker 1: fitness um and I was running this morning and I

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Speaker 1: for years, decades. One other time, one time someone stopped

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Speaker 1: in his early seventies, gray headed, nice beard glasses. Here's

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Speaker 1: a man riding a mule, beautiful like a silhouette. You

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Speaker 1: A real good, real good. You've been playing golf a

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot today. To Gary's right overpassing our

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Speaker 1: guest is Missy KNEWKEM welcome, ms nukemb the only good

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Speaker 1: looking woman right. That's exactly right. The rest of them.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So there's something we got to talk

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Speaker 1: on in the world that I would like for Misty

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Speaker 1: see you. We're in a good overalls. Bring Whalen Jennings hat.

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Speaker 1: That's whaleon hat since generic when your coon dogs names

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Speaker 1: Whalen and he's named after the one of the icons

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Speaker 1: of outlaw country music, real country. Using it doesn't it

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Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. It's just a it's a happy coincidence. So

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Speaker 1: a bran back to the middle we have today. Tavin Dillard.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, man, I'm good. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: it's got a cool down in the office. Well you

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Speaker 1: Headquarters of former Global Headquarters of the Bear Hunting magazine.

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Speaker 1: There's an acronym for it, um f are. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I love it. This is the first time in here.

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Speaker 1: I got my feet on a bear. That's right, that's

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Speaker 1: Big bear right behind you? How did he get here?

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Speaker 1: like just for a little bit, just enough to say, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm following you. Go ahead, Brent. Hashtag let Misty talk.

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Speaker 1: Now that's what this guy is. He's indeed, he's indeed,

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Speaker 1: I got lots. I need a shirt. I need a shirt.

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Speaker 1: It is true though. Clay always he likes to he

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Speaker 1: he always thinks that he drops the punchline better than me,

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Speaker 1: we had? He he's struggling, biting his tongue. What don't

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Speaker 1: you tell that story? What happened? He's so excited and

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Speaker 1: then you start telling and he's like, she's doing that

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Speaker 1: like this? Uh same. So there will be this incredible

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna he's looking right at There are people

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Speaker 1: to say about that. I got to contact you to

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Speaker 1: get the price. Yeah, and I'm not always that accessible.

421
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: They exactly how to sell things, right, he gets things

422
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna sell it. And then he's like,

423
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm putting the mulet for sale, makes a public announcement.

424
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: There's no way to reach me to get that mule.

425
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: We gotta keep him exactly exactly. And this is and

426
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not putting Clay up to sell the last coon

427
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: dog that I had. I had him sold two times. Now,

428
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: you tell me if you think this is a reflection

429
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: of internal character in a negative positive way. But a

430
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: guy was coming to my house like the next day

431
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: to buy this dog. But I told him before he came.

432
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: I said, buddy, I'm taking this dog coon hunting tonight.

433
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: And if he does good tonight. That may affect your

434
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: trip tomorrow, because I may tell you he's not for

435
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: sell anymore. But I'll see you tomorrow at ten am.

436
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: A scooter, wasn't it. Yeah? And then I go hunting,

437
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: and what do you think Scooter did? He did a

438
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: good job, He did a great job. And so at

439
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: midnight I text the guy and be like, you should

440
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: have bought him white had the chance. And then I

441
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: did it to the same guy twice, and then finally

442
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: the third time, when I really wanted to sell the dog,

443
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: like for sure, I was a little embarrassed to even

444
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: contact the guy, and so I didn't, And so I

445
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: ended up giving him to a kid over in Oklahoma

446
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: who's hunting him to this day, and Scooters doing real good.

447
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: How many times I tell you you gotta you gotta

448
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: give him, you gotta give him a shot. Hashtag save Scooter.

449
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: I ain't even put that out there. Yeah yeah, and

450
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: put that on Instagram, Yeah yeah. If you ever Coo

451
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: nutted a tavern, no never. I mean, I've chased him,

452
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: but I ain't been out going a dog and in

453
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: a un you know kind of thing. We could go tonight,

454
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: pretty swift footed really, I could get a raccoon in

455
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: the headlock, but I don't know if I could take

456
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: them all the way down, you know kind of thing. Now,

457
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: I'll go with you, take me out. Now. I've heard

458
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: you talk about peacocks. No, but I've seen him. They

459
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: tear you up. They ain't friendly. I ain't friends. But

460
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: but I drawed a picture of a fully mature peacock

461
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: that had a squirrel in a headlock. And the squirrel

462
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: was so ribarrassed because I mean, uh, they're getting people's gardens.

463
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Folks can't catch them all day long. And here comes

464
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: up fully mature peacock with no thumbs. You don't know

465
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, they just got wings locked him up boom,

466
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: And that squirrel was so sad kind of thing. And

467
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: so I drawed that picture once because I'm a little

468
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: bit of an artist, you know, like we talked about that.

469
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: But no, when I was a little kid, I've seen

470
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: one get ahold of a five year old like cousin

471
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: of mine, scratched up the back of her a little back,

472
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: you know kind of thing. Uh, they don't want to

473
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: be your friends. I don't know. Have you been friends

474
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: with a peacock? The only time I've ever communicated with

475
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: one was I remember once I've been down the road

476
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: and had my windows down. We're coming back from a

477
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: turkey hunt in Madison County Wildife Management Area over in.

478
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Uh what Madison County? Have you been there? Yeah? I've

479
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: been there? And uh, I remember a peacock sounded off

480
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: right at an opportune time for me to hear it

481
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: while I was driving. Can you do the same? Corresponded

482
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: with the turkey hunting story, and so, uh I yelled

483
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: at the peacock as we drove by. What does that

484
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: sound like when the peacock yell okay? And then what

485
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: did you do? I just went okay like that? And

486
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: then you guys were friends or what? Okay? You might

487
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: have made him mad, kind of like that guy you

488
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: tried to sell the dog too. Dad. Do you have

489
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: any questions about Tavern? Tavern's background or anything. He's got

490
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: a good looking bicycle out there. I mean it looks

491
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: like it was probably it's got some miles on the

492
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: swin in the nineteen fifty nine. I I got a

493
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: question for you. Gary said, okay, that's good man. Hit me,

494
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: So I I the turkey salmon clay just said he

495
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: ain't never seen one, and I don't doesn't feel like

496
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: to be a person because you gotta believe he had

497
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: on and people say you ain't never seen one of them?

498
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: How do you handle that kind of I don't know, faidback,

499
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: the cynicism, Yeah, the the pushback or the criticism. You

500
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: sort of had to look at the i Q of

501
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: the person, you know, So does that consider where it's

502
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: coming from? Yeah, there you go. That's a better way now.

503
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: On the interwebs, I don't know. I don't know them.

504
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: You know, they'll just wing out comments like when you're

505
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna get a turkey salmon. It's like when you're gonna

506
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: get one. You know, That's what I'm thinking in my head.

507
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't say that out loud. If you don't talk

508
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: out loud on the interwebt p P people type it out.

509
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: But so consider the source. Yeah, yeah, keep your consider

510
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: the source, you know, keep your hair up, keep your

511
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: head up. Brother. Okay, I appreciated Gary. Hey, I've found

512
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: a relevant Black Panther pop culture data point. This week.

513
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I was with my friend Lee and Hatty Walt down

514
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: in down where they live, and uh, Lee points to

515
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: an oar a boat or I'll give you a prize

516
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: of some sort, okay if you know the answer to

517
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: this question. It's a trivia question. Boat or and on

518
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: the boat? Or is a black panther straight up black

519
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: panther on the wide part of the boat? Or? And

520
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: uh Lee clicks on the television and a movie comes

521
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: on and he says, I want to show you a

522
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: movie clip because I asked him about the boat, or like,

523
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: tell me about the black panther on the ore? And

524
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: there is a movie and it's a scene where these

525
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: two guys, these two old guys, are in like a

526
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: public place inside of a building, and this one old

527
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: guy is trying to prove that this other old guy

528
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: doesn't know his stuff, you know. And so the one

529
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: old guy goes, well, I bet you I can stump you.

530
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: What is that? What does that mean? And he points

531
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: to an oar with a black panther and he goes

532
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: he the question is what is on the other side

533
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: of the ore? And the man goes a rabbit smoking

534
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: a pipe with me, do you know what movie this is? Okay?

535
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: He takes the oar off the wall. There's a black

536
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: panther on one side. He flips it and sure enough

537
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: it's a rabbit smoking a pipe. And the guy that

538
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't think the guy would know it was like, oh really,

539
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: but do you know why the rabbit smoking the pipe?

540
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: And the guy says, the rabbit is at ease because

541
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: he knows he's smarter than the panther. Punchline and it

542
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: was a native It was some type of indigenous or

543
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Native American like thing. A black panther and a rabbit

544
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: smoking a pipe National treasure? Wrong? Was this a cartoon?

545
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: Is a real, real, live action live action? The movie

546
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: is called The Edge with Anthon Hopkins. I've never seen it.

547
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: We actually were considered watching it. Yeah it's about a bear.

548
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Considered watching it yesterday, but we didn't. Yeah. Black total,

549
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: black panther reference, black panther, rabbit smoking a pipe. Just

550
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: why is the rabbit smoking a pipe? It's just more

551
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: proof that the black panthers. Exactly. I got even more

552
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: proof this this very week. What a better specialist that

553
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: you brought in here on the bicycle about what black black?

554
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: What do you think about you? Ever? If you have

555
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: you seen a black panther? I've never known your dad

556
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: to lie, so you trust him? I mean, yeah, you

557
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: know that's I mean, I've seen things that I don't know,

558
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: you know, make out the you know, in the distance

559
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: and the shutters. Um, I ain't seen Bigfoot. I ain't

560
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: never seen him. I got some friends to have, but

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen him. But the black panther, uh,

562
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: I might have? Is it a mountain line? I don't know.

563
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: When when you get towards us. What about her? Where

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: was she? Oh, I'm not trying to. I mean, we

565
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: could take this outside. You look pretty word, you know,

566
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I am a little worm scrappy too. Did your mama

567
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: ever see a black panther? No mema memo. I don't

568
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: even like to talk about animals. Yeah, you know. I

569
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: think it's because she had a pet raccoon years ago

570
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: and she don't know what happened to it, and she

571
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, you get attached to something and then it disappears.

572
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: Although she do have a great score right now. She

573
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: wants to build a kennel four and she don't know

574
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: how to be like, I'm in charge of that, and

575
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: she wanted she she want to make that thing at home,

576
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a squirrel mema. But she got

577
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: her own plans. So but she Ain't never told anything

578
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: about seeing a black panther. Really, no, she never seen that. See,

579
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: I would say sixty five of women over the age

580
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: of seventy that live in certain parts of the country,

581
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: we'll just say I have seen a black panther. Those

582
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: are hard hitting statistics that she throw it out. Yeah,

583
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: so I'm surprised that your mama doesn't fit in that

584
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: based on what I know about static. Yeah, six a

585
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: seventy year old women in a certain region have seen Okay,

586
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, you didn't talk to me while

587
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: about black panthers, did I guarantee? Is she's holding out

588
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: on you? She might be. She she liked to save

589
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: that for parties and stuff. I guess. Yeah. So the

590
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: rabbit the panther, pretty cool. Okay. The second black panther

591
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: data point was this very weak. A man sent me

592
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a a an actual flag of an of a a

593
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: Native American tribe. It was the national flag. I mean,

594
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're sovereign nations of indigenous people inside

595
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: this country, and they have flags. It's like an American flag.

596
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: They have this kind of flag, and uh, there is

597
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: a flag that has a black panther on it. Straight

598
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: up black panther. But the more I dug into it,

599
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: the more I realized that they weren't necessarily saying that

600
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: they were black panthers. Just the graphic of it had

601
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: to be black, m because it couldn't be. It's their

602
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: favorite color maybe, uh, And so it was. It was

603
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be a cougar, not necessarily a black one,

604
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: but it was black. You're with me? Okay? Great? Well, um,

605
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Tavin do you need to Yeah, all, let's talk about me.

606
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: Mom made me remember I gotta get get some stuff

607
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: over to her on the bike. So, man, thanks for coming. Hey,

608
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: it was good to see you all. Thanks for letting

609
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: me cool off in here. Yeah. Man, the out take

610
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: it to appreciate that. Oh yeah, she'll like that. Yeah.

611
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I just don't want to drop it on the way home.

612
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Newn Glass bottles. Boy, they do a number on the pavement,

613
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: don't they. I'll see what I can do, all right, y'all.

614
00:33:51,640 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: We'll see you later, all right, See Tavini, This is

615
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of an odd, odd podcast because I've got a

616
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: second guest that's gonna come in. So Tavin has gone,

617
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: but I would like to introduce you guys too, to

618
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: my friend Joel Barry, Hey, Clay, Joel's going. Good to

619
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: meet you. Man, is good to be here, Misty, Dad,

620
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: If y'all met Joel, I just I just met Joel

621
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: for the first time just today, but we've we've been

622
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: following each other for a while on on the social

623
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: media is such there's real people behind the social media

624
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: is it turns out? Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I have

625
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: a character actually on social media with a newcomb really

626
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: underscore newcomb, total character, like when you're around like me,

627
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: like totally different than the guy on the screen, right, Misty,

628
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh no, Joel, So so you are Tavin Dialer. Yeah, character,

629
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I do tell us just a little bit about like

630
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: like the the character and I don't know, just give

631
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: us a little spiel. Yeah. I started in two thousand

632
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: six on YouTube um and kind of built an audience

633
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: that plateaued for about a decade until TikTok and Instagram

634
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: and then it kind of found an audience in the

635
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: last two years, the last three months on Instagram. Um.

636
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I've been building uh other things on

637
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: social media as far as film and video production stuff,

638
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: but tabing is definitely one of my favorites. So Tavin

639
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: has like four and fifty something thousand people that follow

640
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: him on TikTok thirty don't want to oversell it, okay,

641
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: people to go there and be like, oh I thought

642
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: it was worth twenty people stop following now. Um so

643
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I was. I started seeing this tavern. I

644
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: remember the first time that I saw Tavin on Instagram.

645
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: It was one of those ones where you were sitting perpendicut,

646
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: you weren't facing the camera, you were sitting sideways to

647
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: the camera, and you turned your head and looked at

648
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the camera, had a p you can probably poetry, yes,

649
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: and uh and and then this guy started talking and

650
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: I was just like what It took me like a

651
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: couple of watches to be like, is this like what

652
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: is happening here? But it was such a familiar voice,

653
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: not that I knew you, but the voice being I

654
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, this guy literally could be my neighbor. Yea, yes.

655
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: And then I started watching it and I was like, uh,

656
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I just I was just like, this is pretty funny.

657
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: And then I sent you what I sent you a

658
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: message about if you remember I was. I think I

659
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: was the first one and or I instigated our friendship

660
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, I appreciate that you have a

661
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: comedy channel that isn't crass. Remember that, just like because

662
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: I watched a bunch of stuff and I never, like,

663
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: I kept waiting for it to be just like really crass.

664
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Like I just thought that was gonna happen because that's

665
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: what comedy does. That's like that, that's what comedy does.

666
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: And you didn't. And I just thought, Man, this guy,

667
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I want to throw him a bone. And so I

668
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: reached out to you and then turns out you're not

669
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: Tavin Dialer at all. No, I'm not Joel Berry. And

670
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: that can be very disappointed to some people. That can

671
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: make some people angry. Most people are pretty cool about it.

672
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever run into someone who thought who is

673
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: happy to see Tavin and then found out you mean

674
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: in person or online? No? Online, Um, it's happened where

675
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: there's there's sincere disappointment. I ran into a lady last

676
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: year in a restaurant in Arkansas and she saw me,

677
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: and for some reason in my head, I'm like, I

678
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: don't look like having So I go into a play

679
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're you're you're Tavin and but she

680
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: was okay that I didn't, you know, I wasn't really

681
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: like I was a character. Was a little disappointed when

682
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I met you, just a little bit. I could tell.

683
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: I could tell when you made me riding the bed

684
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: of your truck. And when I saw what what white

685
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: straight teeth you have? I was like, come on, I

686
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: mean because Tavin, that's Tavin's signature, is like the rough,

687
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: the rough teeth. And that's one thing Tavin never talks

688
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: about his teeth because it's too obvious that he never

689
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: really talks about the dentist or brushing teeth because it

690
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: seems like too obvious of a joke to make. So, yeah,

691
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: it's just a little fun fact. I kept getting. I

692
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: was getting text messages the day when he premiered the

693
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Bargeries hadn't I'm watching always like who is this clown

694
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: wearing a Bargeries here? Yeah? Yeah, And I just started

695
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: doing the deep that I was watching everything And then yeah,

696
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I think you called me that day or so, Man,

697
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: you got said who is this guy? Like? You gotta

698
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: check this out? Yeah it was funny. I didn't know Brent.

699
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: You never you never comment. Do you like him? You

700
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: just keep scrolling? No, Man, I like him absolutely, Bank Bank.

701
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: There you go. And so our kids watched Tavin. Our

702
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: kids are big Tavan pants. They're really really big. And

703
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: the day he wore a bear grease hat, bear sending

704
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: out to the family thread. He's like, hey, y'all, bear

705
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: like he's not real expressive, Like you say something to

706
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: you and be like, hey, bear, we're gonna go, you know,

707
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: like do something incredibly fun and he'll be like, okay, yeah,

708
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I said, I said, uh said, Tavin Dillard's coming to

709
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: our house next week. And I kind of got a

710
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: little bit of a rise out of him. And he

711
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: turned his head and looked at me and he said

712
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: what And I said, Tavin Dillard's coming here. That sounds

713
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: like a window. It was a big big that's basically yeah,

714
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: that's yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope t having made it

715
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: back to his me mall oh, he knows the way. Hey,

716
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about Bradleyville Dynasty basketball. This was this one

717
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: out of the box for you guys. Here's here's the

718
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: truth of the Burglary Podcast is that most of the

719
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: people that are here every week don't It's not like

720
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you always what I'm gonna do, Like y'all

721
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: don't know. So you are kind of y'all kind of

722
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: ingest this just like everybody, just like everybody else. So,

723
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: so did did the title? Did did any of it?

724
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: Were you like, oh wow, where's this going? It was exciting?

725
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: It was like, oh no, it's sports. What do you think?

726
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: The only reason it I loved it. The only reason

727
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised because I know, I know y'all. I

728
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: know you're all crazy about basketball. A matter of fact,

729
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: when Alexis and I came up a couple of months

730
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: or so ago, You're like, hey, y'all, come up, stay,

731
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: but we're watching the basketball game. You come watch it,

732
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: or you can go off and do your own thing.

733
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: And you know it worked out good. You know, we

734
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: all went out because the basketball thing was over early.

735
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: But but I've known you guys like basketball and the ship.

736
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: Would you anticipate by my looks that I'm as as

737
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: good a baller as I am? I would not. I wouldn't. Absolutely.

738
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I wish Tavin was here. I'd ask him. It's kind

739
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: of funny because Clay, we'll go to that a joke.

740
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: You mean to not say what I'm gonna say, Well,

741
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna say. I'm just can

742
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: we just I'm not not for every podcast, but just

743
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: for this one. Let's just every time Clay cuts me off,

744
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: let's remember that. But Clay actually will go and play basketball,

745
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: and he's he is. He does run and stuff, and

746
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: so he can. He's got stamina. And it's kind of

747
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: funny because you could tell he chef loves pick up basketball,

748
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: and so sometimes we'll go places and do pick up

749
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: basketball with him, and Clay will go out there and play.

750
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of a you know, scrappy. That might be

751
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: a nice way to say. He does not look like

752
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: a basketball uh champion, but but he gets out there

753
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: and he can. He can, he can stay with people

754
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: and he can. He's real. Uh, it's kind of fun

755
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: that I played pick up ball. I don't know you

756
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: should tell this story. Yeah, let's just say I was

757
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the old guy and there was a group of young

758
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: men playing ball, and I was in jeans and boots,

759
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: not cowboy boots, but like hiking boots, and and let's

760
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: just say some things didn't go so well for them

761
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: for the and and they got mad. He got mad

762
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: at me, and I later came and apologized to him.

763
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: A young guy when that afternoon and we realized claim

764
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: smoke to thirteen year old and was at it true?

765
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: You talk to him? I did not talk about but

766
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't humble. I mean he was. It was like,

767
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: if you're going to be the old guy and you're

768
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna take these true little young teenage very humble. I

769
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: just didn't give him any slap and he got mad

770
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: at me for playing defense too tough. I did not.

771
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: I never breached my value system of what you apologize for.

772
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Then well, actually I can't really remember the details. I

773
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: just think you were a little bit content with yourself

774
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: and you kind of felt I'm sorry everybody, do you

775
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: like point to the sky and after the store in

776
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: your face, not to him, but you know, like that.

777
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: But it was it was it was the defense was

778
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: just a little bit sassy. I mean it was like,

779
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: come on, these are teenage So now the whole world

780
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: knows all of my basketball highlights that one time and

781
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: that one time at Clarksville. That's all. That's all there is.

782
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: There's nothing more. So like, what did you think of

783
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: about Bradleyville podcast? That was good. I grew up in Dardnell,

784
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: so Clarksville is not too far from there. That's yeah,

785
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: that's right right over there. Yeah, it's good. Well, I

786
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: mean it didn't surprise me because you dig into history

787
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: on this podcast, so I wasn't surprising. The sports thing

788
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I thought was cool because you can think about how

789
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: many games are played every year, year after year after year,

790
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: and people have records and teams and scores and whatever,

791
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: but they kind of get glossed over after a while

792
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: because it's like current teams usually only care about what

793
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: they're accomplishing. I mean I would know when I was

794
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: a kid, it's like, what have I done? So to

795
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: to spend time on the story, I thought it was

796
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: valuable and interesting. Well, it's it's of note that some

797
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: of those records still stand to this day, like the

798
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: sixty four game winning streak in Missouri high school basketball.

799
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, leon Comb said it's tied. There was a

800
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: school that tied it and I don't know that story,

801
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: but that still stands. Um dad, what do you think?

802
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: You know? I thought the Hoosiers. I just thought, you know,

803
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: we love a good sports story. I don't care if

804
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: you're an athlete or not. I mean just everything is

805
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: entwined in that thing. I mean, life, just whatever, you

806
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: want to dig out of it. The story was awesome,

807
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: but all of the like hidden truths in in character

808
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: stuff was really really amazing. You know how uh these

809
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: kids were coachable. You know, you gave the list of

810
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: three things, you know, I mean that that they were

811
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: they were coachable. They were ready. Uh they you know,

812
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: they did what it takes to be successful, but they

813
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: had to have some direction. They couldn't do it in

814
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: the fifties because they had no jim. They had no direction.

815
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: They get a little direction, get some backing from adults,

816
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: and I mean they just go crazy and that you know,

817
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: it was beyond basketball to me. Well, there were so

818
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: many stories. It was kind of like pick your story,

819
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Like this book is full. Mr leon Komb's book is

820
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: just full of history. It's almost like brad Leeville High

821
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: School yearbook. You know, there's just all these pictures. He

822
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: actually has pictures of the Howardville team that they beat stage. Yeah,

823
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: and he went and interviewed those guys and he did

824
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: a great job in in in this book. But the

825
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: picture story thing I chose Leon Boyd to kind of

826
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: highlight is the one character from the team that I

827
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: just had access to. He was just up there still

828
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: on Bradleyville. A bunch of those guys are still alive.

829
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: And David Combs was the hero of the nineteen sixty

830
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: eight team, which is Leon comes cousin. Um he's one

831
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: that passed away. No, that was Darryl Paul that passed

832
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: away when but David Combs, like, there's a whole another

833
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: story in him. David Combs was a big time coon hunter,

834
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: just like uh Leon Boyd and the story of him

835
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: going down to Arkansas Tech because the coach was a

836
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: coon hunter, and there's pictures in the book of of

837
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: his coon dogs and him with his coon dogs, and

838
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: there's so many things. I actually I'm now kicking myself

839
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: because I didn't put this in the in the podcast,

840
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: But there was a quote in the book about Leon Boyd.

841
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: It said when he went down a hill in the

842
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Ozarks going to his dogs, it looked like a falling

843
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: star shooting down off the mountain because he was so

844
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: fast going to his dogs. He was And that's the

845
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: old man that we hunted with me and Shepherd and

846
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: uh Man, I just I just can't get enough of

847
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: these older guys. Man Leon Boyd, the last person on

848
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: the planet that he expected to show up to his house.

849
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Was somebody wanting to put him on a podcast. I mean,

850
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: like literally, this guy, I mean he has a flip phone,

851
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: he doesn't like I don't know if he's ever listened

852
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: to a podcast, and he his humility. I said it,

853
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope it made sense. But it's

854
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: like it protruded from him with great force. That's the

855
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: way I described it. It's just like you're around him

856
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: and you're just like, this guy, it's just so humble,

857
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: He's so uh. I don't you know, you meet some

858
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: people that like, that's not the way you describe him,

859
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily bad, but you would say, man,

860
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: he was charismatic or he was had this or did this.

861
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: It's like Leo Boyd was just like that's what came

862
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: off of him. And a lot of folks that you've

863
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: talked to that that you that have been highlighted on

864
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: this thing, especially from that generation or like that, you know,

865
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: they take and I don't know if it's they take

866
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: solace in like the basketball. They enjoyed that so much,

867
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: but they were they were playing on a dirt floor,

868
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, on the ground. They were shooting hoops that

869
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: the blacksmith made. But it it wasn't picking cotton, it

870
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: wasn't moving rocks. It was something other than that that

871
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: they could focus on. And to this day where he's

872
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: seventy eight, Yeah, he's happy and content to talk to

873
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: you about that and to go coo nothing, because it

874
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: ain't picking cotton, it ain't moving rocks, it ain't you know.

875
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Just they're satisfied and happy to be where they are

876
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: in life. And it's there's a lot in that to

877
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: be in in in my world. So in my way

878
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: of thinking, I'm being happy where you are. And if

879
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: you're not happy to do something about it, you know,

880
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Oh. I thought it was so entertaining. I

881
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And I listened to all but the

882
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: last five minutes of it with ship and so what

883
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: he thinks. He really enjoyed it, and he we would

884
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: pause and talk about it and it was it was

885
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: really good. And I would saying, now, which one was this?

886
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: So I kind of heard some of the stories leading

887
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: up to this, so I kind of knew, I knew

888
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: what what was coming, but I thought it was great.

889
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: I want to I want to tell this one story

890
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: that I want to come back to specialization verse being

891
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: a generalist and kind of qualify that statement, but I

892
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: gotta tell you this story, and it just didn't fit

893
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: into the podcast. But so Leon Combs eight seven years old.

894
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: He's like he was the main guy that carried us

895
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: through the podcast, and he was as sharp as attack.

896
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times I've interviewed a lot of

897
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: older people and sometimes like they don't they've never listened

898
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: to podcasts mode, they don't understand the medium, and and

899
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: and and man, he was just like he sit down

900
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: with me, and he was just like, tell me what

901
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: you need. And I said, well, I'm gonna do a

902
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: podcast on this this okay? And he and and he

903
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: he was just like so on point and like he

904
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: would say, now would this story be relevant for you?

905
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, well not really, and He's like okay.

906
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: And he he was just really good. But he did

907
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: tell me one story that I wasn't able to use.

908
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: But and I mean he told it for me to

909
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: put on the podcast if I wanted to, so I

910
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: don't he wouldn't mind me telling it. But he when

911
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: he was a toddler, his father murdered his mother a

912
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: murder suicide and his so his mother and father passed away.

913
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: They ship him out to California for for whatever reason.

914
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the details, but he went to California

915
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: as a two year old. And then his I wanted

916
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: some family member back in Bradleyville, Missouri. Communicates with them

917
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: and this is uh in the would have been in

918
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: the thirties, I think when he would have been born

919
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: eighty seven years from right now. Um, And they the

920
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: family member says, will take the boy. So they send

921
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: him back and the mail man, the Bradleyville mail man,

922
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: delivers Leon Boyd to his to the man and woman

923
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: that were related to him but would become his father

924
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and mother. And and he never knew until he was

925
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: older what happened. He just it was his dad. And

926
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: he had like this wonderful, great childhood and and and

927
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: and a really stable home. They were very poor, but

928
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: they were it was a very stable home. And then

929
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: Leon Combs goes on to become like extremely financially successful.

930
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know this man well, but I cannot. He's

931
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: been very let's just say he's been very, very financially

932
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: successful coming out of Bradleyville and he said he was

933
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: the first kid out of Bradleyville schools that went to college,

934
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: and he was in the military and he hitch hiked

935
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: out west and he he just had his wild story.

936
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: It's actually in this book right here. He gave me

937
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: a book. I forgot about it. Um, Okay, this isn't

938
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: all about his life, but it's called Bradleyville, My Hometown,

939
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: a collection of short stories and memoirs. But anyway, Leon

940
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Leon Combs, what a guy. Yeah, and so you know,

941
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: these are stories that you can't even tell. I mean,

942
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't a part of the basketball thing, but couldn't be.

943
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: Two part series, could have been? Could have been? I

944
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: have a basketball question. Is it common to tile a jim?

945
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: Maybe during that time? I don't know, because it seemed like, man,

946
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: they had to finish a halftime because they couldn't. We're slipping.

947
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: I was like, tile that sounds yeah back there in

948
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: that time, that's what they did. I don't know. Probably

949
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: a financial deal. Hardwood would have been too expensive. They

950
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: only had fifteen hundred dollars plus donations. Yeah. Yeah. Um.

951
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: So the general idea, like basically this story introduced us

952
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: to another story that has more to do with life,

953
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: which was so when when I first told Misty this story,

954
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: this is where Misty's fingerprints on Barry Grease in a

955
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I told her about Bradleyville and these

956
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: guys being coon hunters, and she said, hey, you ought

957
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: to talk about David Epstein's book about specialists and generalist

958
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: And I said, great idea. And uh, we actually tried

959
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: to get David Epstein on the podcast. We had a

960
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: very short time window. So perhaps he would, I'm certain

961
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: he would. He would probably come to the render with Tavin.

962
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: Probably we had. It was a very short time window.

963
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: We couldn't make it happen, so I brought in the expert. Misty. Um,

964
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: after you heard that conversation, how did do you think

965
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: it came out the way we wanted to? I think it.

966
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I think it came out. I thought it came out great.

967
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: Um Sheep and I were. You know, when we listen

968
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: to podcasts together, we often stop him and give our

969
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: own little sub commentary. And on that part, you know,

970
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: because he would like to be a specialist, he I

971
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: think he would prefer to be, Yeah, just a mono

972
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: focused persona. It'd be easier for him to do that

973
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: that's that's an appealing proposition. It's just do the thing

974
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: you love and nothing else. Yeah, right right, I mean

975
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's an appealing proposition. Yeah. So so we

976
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: were talking in sp Um. He actually went and brought

977
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: out another book when we started talking about this that

978
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: he was reading back in is that someone gave him

979
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: about skill development in basketball. And he said, y'all should

980
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: talk about this, and he talked about this guy was

981
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: saying everybody should be It was like the pro specialist

982
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: argument that these guys make seventeen million dollars a year

983
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: because when people throw them the ball, they can get

984
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: a shot off fast and always make it. And he

985
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: said this this isn't And this was a book that

986
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: Chef was reading. I don't even know where he got

987
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: it from. And I was like, well, because I didn't

988
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: like the the the argument. I was like, well, I said,

989
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's a pretty narrow You know, they've been

990
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: you know what I always tell the kids, they've been

991
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: in three thousand people who played in the NBA their

992
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: whole life. Get a plan B. You don't have any

993
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: any need to think that that's genetics are against you

994
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: on this one. We don't. We don't have the height

995
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: to play in the NBA. So anyways, so Hip, that's

996
00:55:51,239 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: not what oh boys homeless now so so anyway, so Chip,

997
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: but Chip said, well, he said, I don't agree with that.

998
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: He said the counter and he just volunteered this. He said,

999
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: the counter argument on that is Lebron James gets paid,

1000
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: and he somehow new Lebron James salary off the top

1001
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: of his head because he can get shots off. He

1002
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: could do this, he could do that, he could and

1003
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: he named all the things that Lebron James does on

1004
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: and off the court, and it's like a good thing

1005
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: in Chip, I mean, at least, I don't think that

1006
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: success is really should be quantified in terms of the

1007
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: millions of dollars that you make. But I was, I

1008
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 1: was grateful. He was thinking, yeah, well, and I don't

1009
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: want to If if I can go back and redo

1010
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: the podcast, I would probably say that I think specializing

1011
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: is great. I mean, we need experts. There are things

1012
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: that I have specialized in that have you know, made

1013
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: me an expert in the same quote unquote at some level.

1014
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: And all. The only point I was making is that

1015
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: sometimes these other things can make you even better then

1016
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: if you had just specialized in it. Do you see

1017
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I think yeah. I think

1018
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: what we would say is that it's okay to have

1019
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: a thing you're really good at like it's and and

1020
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: probably there should be something in everyone's life that they

1021
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: spent ten thousand hours on and and learn and get

1022
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: to get to do. But we should all be complex

1023
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: people like That's I think that's the most important thing

1024
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: on our on our end, is that a lot of

1025
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: times you are a specialist at the cost of all

1026
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: these other things. Where specialization does it just speak to

1027
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: how you spend your time, but it speaks to who

1028
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: you are. You are this thing and what we want

1029
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: to communicate to our kids is you are not a

1030
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: basketball player. You are not a smart person. You are

1031
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: not a musician. You are first and foremost a human being,

1032
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: a spiritual being, and someone that has a lot of

1033
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: complexity to them. Put those as you like, on that backdrop.

1034
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: Don't let those things be the backdrop for everything else.

1035
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was clear. That was a good one.

1036
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: It's not what your arts who you are. I noticed

1037
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: in uh in my career that you had several types

1038
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: of highly successful people far above where I ever accomplished.

1039
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: And some of them were great c p A s

1040
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: that a guy kind of like me that was a

1041
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: generalist could use. And you pull this guy in and

1042
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: you call him off to the side, and you go, hey, man,

1043
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: tell me what to do. You know, well, this guy

1044
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: is so good he ends up like owning the world.

1045
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: But the guy that is a generalist hires people like

1046
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: that and pulls them in. He's got he's got all

1047
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: these specialists around him, and in a couple of them

1048
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: are just so sharp that all of a sudden they

1049
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: get up here and they kind of become generalists. But

1050
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: it's a personality thing. The crazy kid in college ends

1051
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: up with that personality where where he can sell, he

1052
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: can communicate, and and so you know you need both kinds.

1053
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: Exactly what you said. Do you think I relayed your

1054
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: philosophy on bringing us up well on the podcast and

1055
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: a few sentence I talked about it, well, I thought so.

1056
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear. One thing that was

1057
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: real clear to me, though, was the spousal abuse. Still,

1058
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: you came up with a new way for this hashtag,

1059
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: let misty speak. It's almost in reverse. I could not

1060
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: believe you did this man? What did juju? Here's oh no,

1061
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: what did I do? Okay? Here, here's what you did.

1062
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: You're you're asking, You're asking Missy a question, and the

1063
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: question is why to why to rule communities like basketball

1064
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: so much? But before she had a chance to answer,

1065
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: you gave answer. You gave you gave like a tent

1066
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: page dissertation on it. So by the time Missy had it,

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, she was real polite, and she you know,

1068
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: she took her ten seconds and tried to make not

1069
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: make you look like an abuser. And she didn't say,

1070
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: remember I'm the one that told you all that stuff

1071
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: you just said earlier. Yeah, yeah. And what made it

1072
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: even worse once she so politely repeated a few of

1073
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: the things that you had already said because there was

1074
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: nothing else to say, said that you totally hate hey, hey,

1075
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: you totally award her answer and immediately said, I wonder

1076
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: how many kids out there if killed bear and and

1077
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: shot a deer with But I mean, and I mean

1078
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: just totally this could be, this could be taken to court.

1079
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 1: I just feel vindicated today and this is we told

1080
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: you that on my shoulder. But it was good. You

1081
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: have an awesome spouse. You have an awesome spouse. Remember

1082
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 1: that crow Tabin was talking about has he taste? Yeah?

1083
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: My fit? Well I did it another time, and this

1084
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: was I mean, I'm aware of what's happening here. Um

1085
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: there was another time and it just was the in it.

1086
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask miss the question, but I had

1087
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: to put in something that that I had said. First.

1088
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: I talked for a real long time and then she

1089
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: got to talk. Do you know what part I'm talking about?

1090
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: I didn't. Maybe I could get away with that again.

1091
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: You know, the truth is we all do that all

1092
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, it's just what we asked a question,

1093
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: we already know the answer, we want to tell him

1094
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: what we think about it, and you just kind of

1095
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we all do exactly what you

1096
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: did at times. But anyway, I actually I did pick

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01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: up on that while he's sticking about because I was

1098
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: there too. And I also what Clay cut out is

1099
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: when I looked at him when he asked me that question,

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: I said, you just answered it. She actually did. And

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm not defending myself, but um, I did answer the

1102
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: question before she got a time to starry, and she said,

1103
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: what we just said it and then she went on,

1104
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: so I had to cut it out. When you're building

1105
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: and editing a podcast and the burger shrender is supposed

1106
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: to be behind the scenes of burgers, there's sometimes just

1107
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: a quantity of information that has to be there, and

1108
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: that was all I had. It was real hard to

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: get that audio because we're sitting there with parents and

1110
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: people and they we're in a basketball game, and it's like,

1111
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: I just had this recorder and I pulled out and

1112
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: I just do it real quick, and I knew what

1113
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I needed to be said, and I wanted to include

1114
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: Mr In because I had told him what needed to

1115
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: be said earlier, like on this exact topic, not on

1116
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but I wish were here. It worked well,

1117
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: Um what was uh? I was gonna ask one of

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: you what what was the most Well, Okay, I'll tell

1119
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: you what my favorite part was. Every single time that

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01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I have listened to that basketball game, I don't even

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01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't like, I really wouldn't think that, like the

1122
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: recording of an old basketball game, would the four overtimes? Yeah,

1123
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: I would like get me emotionally stirred. I was listening

1124
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: to it in my truck and like got cold chills,

1125
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: which is a rare thing for me. But I think

1126
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: just getting inside of this story and meeting these people

1127
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: and going to Bradleyville, you're kind of immersed into it.

1128
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: And you meet Leon Boyd and you just see his life,

1129
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: just the underdog nature of it. I mean, but when

1130
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: that old radio da DA here in Columbia, Missouri, the

1131
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill Eagles is playing the Howard Bill Hawks, and

1132
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: then you know for overtimes true, I mean, it just

1133
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: was a neat It was so cool and and and

1134
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: I discovered that this this audio recording was even available

1135
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: by Leon comes I didn't realize it, but the CD

1136
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: was in the back cover of the book and he said,

1137
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, you can use it, put it on there,

1138
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was in neat. Did y'all

1139
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: think that was cool? You know? One thing I wanted

1140
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: to know was how tall is this Combs guy? And

1141
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what did they have any big people on that?

1142
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: The three there was there were three six, three guys

1143
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: and then that's pretty good they but see they fouled

1144
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: out two guys that were six six and that was

1145
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: part of their strategy. So if they hadn't have done that,

1146
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean their strategy worked, they're playing work and uh,

1147
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's pretty incredible, pretty incredible bradley

1148
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: Ville Eagles. So what was what was the most what

1149
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: was the favorite part of the podcast? Print Like, was

1150
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: there one spot that you're like that was cool? My

1151
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: favorite part was Ship ye at the end of course

1152
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: on known Ship the majority of his life. And I

1153
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: know when he asked you the question, are we are

1154
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: we gonna go back and see this guy? Are we

1155
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: going to be friends? You know, I think he took

1156
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of value and I know it a lot

1157
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: of it was just because of the basketball thing. I

1158
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: know that, But I know that kid, and I know

1159
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: he had a good time when y'all went hunting up there,

1160
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: and I and he's a he's a smart lad, And

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: I think he was soaking up a lot of things

1162
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: and seeing a lot of potential and a lot of

1163
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: fun and good times that he could have being in

1164
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: the presence of that guy. So that my favorite part

1165
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: was it was old Ship soaking it in and really

1166
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: digging what was going on up there beyond basketball and

1167
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: something that happened before is dad it was even born.

1168
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: My chefs take on it there because It actually surprised me,

1169
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: and I tried to say it in a diplomatic way,

1170
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: like chef here that part, because I kind of knew

1171
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: it was coming. Ship. The chef is not pumped about

1172
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: coon hunting, like I've drugged a kid around his whole life.

1173
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: Like Misty sent a picture on our family tex saread

1174
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: to day of of a picture of all the kids

1175
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: with the dogs, and I mean hips like that tall,

1176
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like it's not always fun to

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: be the youngest child. I mean, no telling how many

1178
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: coon trees he's been to. Nope, telling how many coons

1179
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: he's carried out of the woods on his back, you know,

1180
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: carrying him by the hind leg, strode over his shoulder.

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: It's just not his thing. Like he's now fourteen, and

1182
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: he will go with me occasionally just because I'm like,

1183
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: come on, Chip, let's go, and he'll he'll come. He's

1184
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: your clay. Yeah, he'll play golf. Actually I don't think

1185
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: he will. He's had the opportunity recently and he's he's

1186
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: just so he is truly very and I think that's

1187
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: part of what we've really challenged hip to be is

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01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: that's like the you know, at different seasons of your

1189
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: kid's life, you kind of focus in on different aspects

1190
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: of their character that you you want to build. And

1191
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: that's our agreement with him because we actually we are

1192
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: letting hip specialize more than we've ever let him specialize before.

1193
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: And we've been real slow that I mean we have really,

1194
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there are people who truly believe that we

1195
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: have made mistakes that we did not. They would be

1196
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: like athletic advisors type people like coaches and other people

1197
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: that we haven't done the like given him all the

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: opportunities he needs to be developed at age fourteen, and

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: and I'm our thing with him is that, hey, we

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: actually do feel like this is a season where we

1201
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: can let you expand a little bit. You're going into

1202
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: high school. He does have good character, he has you know,

1203
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: he's outgrown the context that he's been in. I had

1204
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: somebody asked me what our philosophy was with our kids,

1205
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: because I didn't want the podcast to be all about Chap.

1206
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a neat I just wanted

1207
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: some complexity to the story. And and that's why I

1208
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: was interested in the story because we love basketball, and

1209
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: but Shepherd has ever since he was two years old,

1210
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: love basketball and has really dedicated himself to it all

1211
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: these years. They went through the phase of you know,

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to play in the n b A and

1213
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: we're like, no, you're not. This is never gonna happen.

1214
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: And basically nothing like shooting the kids drinker okay quickly,

1215
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: the boys all, it's a joke in our family because

1216
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: we one time we watched the NBA draft Molik Monk

1217
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: was getting and by the way, the night that Malik

1218
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: Monk from Arkansas got drafted, the announcer on ESPN said, now,

1219
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: that guy shot more squirrels than anybody else on the

1220
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: square to night, and I was like, I was crying.

1221
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: I was so proud. That's right, Arkansas are but blake

1222
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: if you're hearing this brother, come on to the bar,

1223
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: because that's what he talked about, being out in the

1224
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: Delta with his grandpa shooting hunting squirrels. But anyway, so

1225
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 1: he uh, the night he got drafted, we were watching

1226
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: and the boys were just enjoying listen to all these

1227
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: little speeches that these guys were given about their mama

1228
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: and how you know she believed in when no one

1229
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: else did, and those about boys said man, if we

1230
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: ever get drafted, we're gonna stand up and say, our

1231
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: mom told us for a very young age, genetics are

1232
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: against you. There's whatever to this one. She faithfully took

1233
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: us to practices, faithfully cheered, and she did not believe.

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, I haven't. Shepherd was so wanted

1235
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: to be so focused on basketball that for years we

1236
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,480
Speaker 1: just kind of I never emphasized it. I never validated

1237
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: him that much, just kind of just like, whatever, basketball

1238
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: is not that important, and we pushed him away from it,

1239
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: and he stuck with it. And then basically a year

1240
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: ago at the time when if they're really going to

1241
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: have a future in basketball, are gonna go for it,

1242
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: it's time to get behind him. And so we actually

1243
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: had a family meeting where we sat down and we said, Shepherd,

1244
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: you have all these years stayed dedicated to basketball. And

1245
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean I could go through all the stuff he does.

1246
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible the amount of discipline that he has

1247
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: and how much he loves it. And I said, you

1248
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: have become what we wanted you to become, because the

1249
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: last thing we wanted Joel was to have a kid

1250
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: that was like a superstar ball hog, like like arrogant,

1251
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: little punk kid that's a star basketball player. We've all

1252
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: seen him. We didn't want that who was a star

1253
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: basketball player but had no moral character and get into

1254
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: some environment and he can't. Yeah, it's like we didn't

1255
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: want him. His identity to be I am a star

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Speaker 1: basketball player who also has the age limit on when that,

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean that the identity only lasts so long. And

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: so as I found out after my night and Clark

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: stalls later, let's probably make a podcast about that one day.

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01:11:54,600 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: So the the so chep was just disciplined chips. The

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: biggest thing we're working on Chip right now inside of

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: basketball and the levels he's playing in is to shoot

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: it rather than pass it like he we we taught

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: him like, don't be a ball hog. If you score

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: all the points and nobody else scores points, that's bad.

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: Like we we we really trained him a certain way

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: of thinking about sports, and it's become ingrained in him

1268
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: and it's become his default. And then this year we said, hey,

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: you pass the test. Now we're gonna get behind you

1270
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about a formal declaration of intent

1271
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: and we're going to get behind you and say okay,

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01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: now we're gonna let you specialize. So if I could

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: say it that way, and and so we we he

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: tried out for a team. He's on that team. I mean,

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: we told him we're gonna get behind you, we're gonna

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: support you, We're gonna let you try out for some

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: some teams that were bigger than the context that he

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: was in at that time. But our deal with him

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: was that as a high schooler, he's got the internal

1280
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: maturity to now say I have to be responsible for

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: my own character. And the phrase we gave him his

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: pan optic management. We want him to be complex, not simple.

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01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: And so he's got there's there's bargains, this is a deal,

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: and and we don't want him to have one muscle

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: that's really strong and the rest of his body that's

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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: weak and not able to do anything. So I want

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: his room clean, I want him to do the tours.

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01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: I want him to have good grades in school. Chep

1289
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: is real smart and he should he should have a

1290
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: plan B. I'm not sure where the high gene that

1291
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: he got is gonna take them. And even if it

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: did take them to places, I would want him to

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: have character when he got there and be able to

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: be complex, be well read, be educated, do those things.

1295
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: And so that's what I meant on the podcast when

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01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: I spent said, we do sports, but we do it

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: on our terms. I don't want it to sound like

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: we're trying to push our kids away from specialization. Because

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: specialization can be good, but you just need more and

1300
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: it's helpful to have more. And so that's why, like

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: I was talking about Shepard not liking coon hunting so much,

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01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: That's why when we came away from Leon Boyd's house,

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: Shepherd instigated that conversation. There was no Mike's going like

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: the last thing he thought was I was gonna talk

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: about what he was saying to me. I mean, we're

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: pulling out of the driveway and he goes dead. Are

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: you gonna be friends with Mr? Leon? Like you are? James?

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: And I just looked at him and I was like

1309
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what he was asking. And I

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: just gave him a real practical answer. I said, I mean,

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01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, Chep, I just met Mr Leon. I don't

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: you know. He's a very nice man. We had a

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: great time with him. He lives in a long ways

1314
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: from us. I mean, I don't know that I'm gonna

1315
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: be able to come back over here that much. And

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: he like, he said, Dad, I don't think it's right

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: for you just to have him on your podcasts and

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: us us never come back over here. And I said,

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: do you want to come back over here? And this

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: is a boy who's not pumped about coon hunting and

1321
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: he said yeah, and he I love that because Leon

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: Boyd is just the kind of guy that you would

1323
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: want your son to look up to. And Chef liked

1324
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: it that he was a ball player. But it's just

1325
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: I could tell Chef just like this old man and

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah. I liked it, like Leon Boyd has character.

1327
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: Did did you? I didn't hear it in the podcast,

1328
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: but Leon Boyd played basketball on organized basketball till he

1329
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: was seventy and he got a shoulder injury coon hunting

1330
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: and had to stop. That's pretty cool, pretty good way

1331
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: to go out and play the glory. Oh, talking about

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: a kid specializing. I hired a guy one time to

1333
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: be a banker out of college for one reason. On

1334
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: his resume he was the top three point shooter at

1335
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: his college. And and really it may be I didn't

1336
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: have the original thought, but the guy and myself that

1337
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: we're hiring him the guy he pointed out, anybody that

1338
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: is the top three point shooter in their conference in college,

1339
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a top banker or whatever field they

1340
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: get into. And sure enough, this guy was a whiz

1341
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: bank And I mean he's just Scott rocketed. Yeah, he

1342
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: actually he actually got out of banking. And I would

1343
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: just bet that he's really really done well. I know

1344
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: when I checked on him ten fifteen years ago, he

1345
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: had done really well. Well. It's discipline. You know. If

1346
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm a lucy goosey guy and I don't finish projects

1347
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: and I just monkey around, I won't be the same

1348
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: way when I go to work for you. But if

1349
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: if I'm I got my act together and I'm shooting

1350
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: a thousand shots a day, I'm going to shoot a

1351
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: thousand shots for you when I go to work for you. So,

1352
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: and I mean that there's a lot to be said. Now,

1353
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: if that's all he can do is shoot, I mean you,

1354
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: as you're moving through the shooting process, you've got to

1355
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: develop a personality where people like you. You can communicate,

1356
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: you can sell. Devin knows that. So I think what

1357
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about two is drive and I think that's

1358
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: the thing about with sports, with hunting, with whatever you've

1359
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: got your kids interested in. I do think it's important

1360
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: to let them have things they're passionate about because it

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: produces that that drive. You can't it's hard. I mean,

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: there's some things, there's some subjects in school that we

1363
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: just have to make our kids work hard at when

1364
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: you're when your child is motivated towards something, I think,

1365
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: and that's what I love about sports is that it

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: is a place to really develop character. And it's the

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: same thing I like about hunting, like when Bear went

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01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: hunting last year. To me, it doesn't really matter as

1369
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: long as it's you know, wholesome stuff, what they're into.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: It's good too. It's good to let kids have passions.

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01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: It's good to let them care about something because that

1372
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: drive produces things in them because they want to do it.

1373
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: And so that drive helps them learn discipline, learns, how

1374
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: to take defeat, learn how to you learn how to

1375
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: take all the different challenges that come into stuff. So

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: it's good to My concern with the current generation would

1377
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: be that there's a lot of kids out there that

1378
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: don't really have drive for much at all, and so

1379
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: it's it's good too. It's good to let them go

1380
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: find go find drive and to identify things that would

1381
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: distract you from finding things you're passionate about and limiting

1382
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: those things. And even in losing. Uh, Leon Combs want

1383
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: two games in four years. But but he went on

1384
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: to be successful because you know, he stayed with it

1385
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: for four years. And in my one of my favorite

1386
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: part was when he said, you know, we got beat

1387
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: sixty four to six, but he couldn't wait to get

1388
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: to the next game. And you ask, I wonder why

1389
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: it's so he could bounce a basketball on a hardwood floor. Yeah,

1390
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's like, you know, if you've been

1391
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: in a box your whole life and you get to

1392
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: look at every now, man, I mean that looking at Yeah,

1393
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: get slapped in the face when you look out, you

1394
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: look out, Yeah, yeah, I mean you know. So anyway, yeah,

1395
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: that that was interesting. One thing, Leon Combs, this is

1396
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: totally off the off the topic of sports. Leon Combs,

1397
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: he told me when he went out into life, he

1398
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: lived this very isolated rural life in the Ozarks. And

1399
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: he said that old people, the old timers used to

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: do what they call saucer coffee Yeah, have you ever

1401
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 1: heard of that? Yeah, Oscar Newcam did that. No way'll

1402
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: tell us what. Well, I don't know, I've never heard

1403
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: of it. Talked is like a but he would just

1404
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: take his coffee and plut it in a saucer and

1405
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: drink it. I have a saucer to cool it off.

1406
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: It's exactly Yeah, he's Mr. Leon Boyd said that when

1407
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: he went I think he went out to California when

1408
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: he was like nineteen or something and he saucered his

1409
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: coffee and he said that people made fun of him.

1410
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: And he was like, what we get made fun of coffee?

1411
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: And he said he said, yeah, you get a cup

1412
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: of coffee, hot coffee, and you pour it into a

1413
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: saucer so that it has the surface areas spread out

1414
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: and you can blow, blow and saucer saucer and blow,

1415
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: and then you drink it out of the saucer like

1416
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: a little plate. Hey Joel, Yeah, tell us, Uh, tell

1417
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: us just a little bit about sweet Tea. Films where

1418
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: people can find Tavin. I'm sure he's back with Meme

1419
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: all by now for Tavin Dillar podcast. They can find that,

1420
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, wherever they listen to podcast. Uh. Sweet Tea

1421
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: Films or Tavin Dellar dot com both the same things. UM,

1422
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: And that's where you can find all the work I'm

1423
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: up to and the stuff that I'm doing. UM. I

1424
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: will say kind of what we've been talking about with

1425
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, you gotta wrap up, but UM, I've

1426
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of college students over the years

1427
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: about their craft because a lot of people want to

1428
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: make it in film. And one of the things I've repeated,

1429
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: which is true for anything in life. What we've been

1430
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: talking about is that one of the things I say

1431
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: often is you've got to Uh. First of all, you

1432
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: can't just have a paper resume. Your portfolio matters in

1433
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: the arts, which means if you say I directed a film,

1434
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: it could have been a horrible film. But if you

1435
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: show someone in your film, they can say, Okay, you've

1436
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: done it. I said, so, first of all, your portfolio

1437
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: needs to exist, like you need to be out there

1438
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: doing the work before you get hired anywhere. The other

1439
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: one is beyond time and be easy to work with,

1440
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: and that's true for anything, but that's those disciplines that

1441
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: show up over time. And then it really is how

1442
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: you relate to people. I think Gary mentioned the coach's

1443
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: approach and how the players like, no, he wasn't mean,

1444
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: he didn't yell, he didn't show up and screen, but

1445
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: he worked hard. But there's there's actually a way to communicate.

1446
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: And I think some people buy into well, uh, that's great,

1447
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: but I can get stuff done this way. But over

1448
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: the long haul, if we're mistreating people and getting good results.

1449
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Over the long haul, you look back and there there's

1450
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: a lot of damage that's been done that could have

1451
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: been avoided. You actually could have had a bigger impact

1452
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: if you kind of done it kindly or more more more,

1453
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: I guess right in a way. So, um, that's something

1454
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: that I was thinking through about, you know, this this

1455
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: specific episode that you did, and then also just approaching

1456
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: kids and careers in general. It's like, it's true those

1457
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: things never got a style. Yeah, you know they work

1458
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: in every field. Be easy to work with. Yeah, any

1459
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: field you go in, that's going to be helpful. Yeah.

1460
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: To that point, we were well, I won't say I

1461
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: was going to slander Eyes an NBA player. Another another

1462
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: conversation that Ship and I had recently about probably one

1463
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 1: of the greatest NBA players that's alive today is basically

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Speaker 1: untreatable because he's so stinking hard to work with. We

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Speaker 1: won't mention his name. Yeah. Yeah, it's just been interesting

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Speaker 1: that it's been interesting to watch this trade season because

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Speaker 1: there's some pretty amazing players out there and no one

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Speaker 1: wants them. You know, the the points that you're making there,

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Speaker 1: you had these kids that were just hungry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't see that anymore. You had a coach that

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Speaker 1: that was that was complied and loving and kind, and

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Speaker 1: the reason he could do that. You got all these

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Speaker 1: players just going yes or yes or yes sir, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I get to run ten miles today, all right, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. I mean, that was one time in

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Speaker 1: the last fifty years that's probably happened. And they won

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Speaker 1: state championships and and so it's just kind of proof

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Speaker 1: that there's more to the recipe than just discipline. This.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a a bunch of stuff thrown into

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Speaker 1: pot and it's tough to get it. And this day

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Speaker 1: and time, these kids, you know that sometimes they're called

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Speaker 1: snowflakes and things. You know, I think I'm probably an

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Speaker 1: old snowflake, but I mean, you know, it's just our

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Speaker 1: society were so impressionable. I mean, you can just tell

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Speaker 1: a kid he's great, he thinks he's great, and telling

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Speaker 1: him he's terrible, he thinks he's terrible. It's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of dangerous really, And we're telling our kids a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff today that you know, might not allow them

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Speaker 1: to win a state championship. What if there was just

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Speaker 1: no state What if they finally got down to the

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Speaker 1: final game and they were just like, no, we can't

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Speaker 1: do this. Everybody gets a trophy, yeah, or everybody gets

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Speaker 1: a trophy. They're like, no state championship game, you don't

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Speaker 1: deserve it. Um, get back into reality. Well, great podcast, Joel.

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Speaker 1: Is that anything else you want to tell us before

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Speaker 1: we leave? I think I've told you everything. I know.

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Speaker 1: I know everything in my head right check out check

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Speaker 1: out Tavin Tavin Dillard on TikTok and Instagram. All you

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Speaker 1: cool young people like me that are on TikTok all

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Speaker 1: these old other old people like everybody in this room,

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Speaker 1: every everybody in this room except for me. Joel Berry

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Speaker 1: is not on tiktoktok a correction, what you mean owned

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Speaker 1: TikTok okay, but I got rid of it once I

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01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: found out what the Chinese are doing to us. I mean, I,

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Speaker 1: you know, first first thing on TikTok, first thing on TikTok,

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Speaker 1: I had to go through and clean it up, you know,

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: because it was terrible. And so I went through and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested, not interested, right right, you know, my

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Speaker 1: cardinal side was going, what but you know, you see

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Speaker 1: clean it up and it's really really good. But then

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Speaker 1: I find out that they're checking on me, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know, I tend to be

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Speaker 1: because we used to hear that three or four years

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Speaker 1: ago and we just kind of blew it off, and

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Speaker 1: now that's coming up again. Well, I think it, just

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Speaker 1: to be fair, I think that TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, all

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Speaker 1: of them are checking on us. I mean, everybody's going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm so self righteous about it

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Speaker 1: with TikTok, but it also it runs your battery China,

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01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: battery management, yeah, battery management. I think that it's a

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Speaker 1: real testament to how cool Clay is that he's on TikTok,

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Speaker 1: because he refers to it as the talk. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: that's even cool. And I'm not even sure that anyone

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Speaker 1: else refers to it as the talk but when you

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Speaker 1: put the in front of it, yeah, the Walmarts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exam that our kids, our kids laugh at because he

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Speaker 1: listens when he doesn't really spend a ton of time

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Speaker 1: believe it or not on Instagram or TikTok or any thing.

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Speaker 1: But when he does, he watches the rule reels all

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Speaker 1: the way through at full volume. And apparently that's not

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Speaker 1: cool because when he does it, all of our kids

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Speaker 1: will look at each other and I mean he puts

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Speaker 1: it at and Clay can't hear great, So I mean

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Speaker 1: the volume is like super and so he's watching it

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Speaker 1: and it's like blaring, and we're all just watching him

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01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: like this is not how you watch, it's not how

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Speaker 1: you do this. And he's just sitting over there laughing,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of funny. It's it's all the kids.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty entertaining. Really, it's very entertaining. The one that

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Speaker 1: you're in. The lady that goes down and opens up

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: the rooster's cage every morning, she's got the robo and

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: she's looking to see if the cameras going. It's really

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Speaker 1: funny that I'm sure, Yeah it was me. Yeah, every day.

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Speaker 1: It is like a battle, just you have to work

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: yourself up to get in there. Mm hmm. Well, Gary

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01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: and Misty has slide track at the end of the

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Speaker 1: agrees for him to wrap up. It's great to see everyone, Joel,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming, thanks for having really appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Tavin Dillard check him out

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Speaker 1: Sweet Tea Films, and uh yeah, we'll see you next

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Speaker 1: week on the Real Beargrease Podcast. I know I need

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Speaker 1: to know what I ran to win.